[Q] Root "disabled" itself!? (Rooted phone that is no longer allowing root access)
Anyone here with this phone (or any) - that is rooted - have it just seemingly act as if it is no longer rooted? or unjustly denying root access for no apparent reason....
Have been rooted since purchase and have never seen or had any issue with this..have flashed custom recovery and rom's hundreds of times...no problems...currently using Task's latest KK 4.4.4 rom and had no issues from beginning...
It comes with SuperUser...i do usually install SuperSU instead but hadn't tried yet...it was fine and apps that needed root appeared ok..even SuperUser has three or four listed apps in the "allow" section...but all of a sudden I can't seem to give root access to anything else now..
First noticed the other day when trying to sideload an apk..couldn't...tried to do it manually by just copying it to system/apps folder and that's when the first message came up saying "it appears your device may not be rooted"...quite odd I thought.. i then tried to install SuperSU and it when SuperUser popped up to give it allowable root access it would only timeout and say denied...i then tried a bunch of other apps that require root and they would all just get denied by SuperUser...
Anyone seen this before or know what causes this and/or how to fix?
THanks for any help or suggestions
ps.. i'm no noob and have been doing this a long time and have rooted/modded dozens of phones, hundreds of times...but this issue is a new one for me.. IF i have to completely wipe and even go back to stock image and then start over to re-root and re-mod... I will and can do so easily..but that would be last resort if necessary...thanks!
In SuperSU, try the clean-up for reinstallation option.
DocHoliday77 said:
In SuperSU, try the clean-up for reinstallation option.
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when launching SuperSU it needs root access to begin with and SuperUser wont allow..this clean up for reinstall is still doable?
Get the recovery flashable SuperSU then. It'll get rid of the other one in the process. You can get it from my sig, but it'll need to be updated after.
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On my Verizon Gnex before the OTA to 4.0.4 I was rooted but still on the stock ROM and I ran the Voodoo Rootkeeper to make it easy to get back root afterwards. Once I got the OTA I restored root and the existing programs I had been using still seemed to work, but I was no longer getting screen notifications when one of those apps was granted root. I also applied the few updates to superuser and it's now fully up to date.
Last night I went to the approved apps list in superuser and saw multiple entries for one of my apps, so I figured I'd delete them all and reauthorize it again, but now I never get a prompt to add it, it just fails.
So it appears that either the current version of superuser is hosed or not installed properly. Voodo indicated that root permissions aren't granted in its status screen, but gives no indication on how to fix this. So I'm wondering how I should fix this. Is there a way to uninstall/reinstall the superuser app easily or do I have to go back through some part of the rooting process over again, or should I wipe and flash all the way to stock and start over?
Update 2: Root was still acting wonky. I was getting multiple requests per app and it wasn't remembering my preference even with the box checked. I tried to allow all but it just wouldn't work at all that way. So I went to update the binaries just to be sure and I had version 3.2 while the latest (and I'm assuming stable) version is only 3.1.1. So if anyone has the problems I did, UPDATE YOUR BINARIES! That fixed everything for me.
Update: I uninstalled the Superuser apk via ES File Explorer, reinstalled it from the Play Store, and just let the phone sit while I was browsing and looking for an answer and when I went back to it Superuser opened and my root was back. I'm not sure if what I did helped but if anyone else has this problem then I can only recommend what I did. If someone can explain what I did wrong or why I lost root, that would still be helpful. If this post needs to be deleted then the mods can do so, I left it in case anyone else runs into this and searches the forums for it.
I have the At&t ion and I managed to get root on ICS on my second try. I was happy about it and decided to start flashing some zips after installing CWM so I deodexed, rebooted, and then flashed one of the status bar tweaks. When I rebooted again Superuser would force close as soon as it opened with the message "Unfortunately Superuser has stopped working". I still have root access in ES File Explorer since I granted it before Superuser stopped working. I cannot however grant any new root permissions since Superuser won't open.
I'm willing to reflash GB and start from scratch again, I'd just like to know what the reason is (was it deodexing? Flashing the zip for the status bar? Or is this just something that can happen?) so I can avoid it the next time. I'm not too excited about having to redownload all my apps for the 3rd time (I was living without root on ICS but decided to go ahead and get it) so if there's a way around it I'd like to find it. Any help is appreciated. I'll try to reply as quickly as possible, thanks guys.
OK, I know this has been asked and asked again, but I have been reading and digging and googling for several days now, and cannot find a solution.
I've got a JB S3 At&t, and wanted to root it, so after reading for a few weeks, I got the "Samsung_Galaxy_S3_ToolKit_v7.0", donated, and got 7.2 (newest version). I flashed with the toolkit to get an unsecured boot image, with SuperSU 1.04, busybox, and TWRP .
Root happened fine. The phone booted, and when I went to open SuperSU (the icon was in my apps), it asked to update the binaries. I said yes, it failed, and the app opened anyway to allow me to access the options. Triangle away worked fine.
The update binaries thing was bugging me, so I updated to SuperSU 1.10 via google store, and the same thing happened, but now I could not access the program after the binary update failed. It still works (triangle away asks and gets permission) but I could not access the program any longer. It just closes after it informs me that updating the binaries failed.
I have tried installing the program as an app, pushing an APK, and installing a zip from recovery. No matter what I do, it ends up the same.
I have also re-flashed the boot several times, and tried a different method using Odin directly and CF-Root. (seems to be the only way to uninstall it) I have tried numerous combinations, but to no avail. I feel like I have done everything I know how to do short of an unroot to stock and try again.
Any helpful suggestions are welcome.
I'd like to be able to use the program, but this is turning into an OCD nightmare. I'd post this in a development forum, but do not have enough posts yet.
Install "SuperUser" from the market. Manually delete SuperSU from /system/app. Reboot. Reinstall SuperSU from play store and binaries should install fine...
illmatic24 said:
Install "SuperUser" from the market. Manually delete SuperSU from /system/app. Reboot. Reinstall SuperSU from play store and binaries should install fine...
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Thanks. I ended up doing it the hard way. (I swear I had auto email notification enabled here, or I would have seen your post and tried it)
Anyway, I cleared caches/userdata/wipe cache partition first, then flashed a stock unrooted 4.1.1 rom from here,
Then I used CF-autoroot, and low and behold, SU was showing up as an app. (it was not previously when I used CF-AR)
I let it update itself and bam, it works! Installed adbd insecure, and it works too. (it was not showing up as an app when I did it before either)
Next I added TWRP 2.4.3.0. and everything still works!
Either the stock AT&T rom on this unit had something interfereing with root, or the root image I used in the toolkit has an issue. I'm leaning towards a toolkit issue since when I used it and it installed TWRP 2.4.1.0, I could not get into recovery, just a black screen.
I lieu of this, I'm limiting my use of the toolkit.
Curiously, the toolkit also allows a sideload via TWRP/CWM, but does not provide a driver. Windows 7 cannot recognize the phone in recovery mode with a custom recovery installed, although it does when a stock recovery is. I have yet to find a driver.
Last night I tried to flash the Cyanogenmod Installer without success. I tried multiple times and each time I kept on getting this Security Information message on my phone: "An application attempted to access system on your device without authorization. This attempt has been blocked...."
I did delete the antivirus app on my phone and so I know that it isn't that. Could this possibly be Knox? We had been told that the CM team had a workaround for those I747 on Android 4.3, like mine.
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Last night I tried to flash the Cyanogenmod Installer without success. I tried multiple times and each time I kept on getting this Security Information message on my phone: "An application attempted to access system on your device without authorization. This attempt has been blocked...."
I did delete the antivirus app on my phone and so I know that it isn't that. Could this possibly be Knox? We had been told that the CM team had a workaround for those I747 on Android 4.3, like mine.
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If you're rooted, download SuperSU from the Play store (I rooted, but the version of SuperSU that was installed was an old version and needed to be updated by manually downloading from the store). When you run it, it will detect that Knox is running and offer to disable it for you.
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If you're rooted, download SuperSU from the Play store (I rooted, but the version of SuperSU that was installed was an old version and needed to be updated by manually downloading from the store). When you run it, it will detect that Knox is running and offer to disable it for you.
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I am not rooted.
Capa1970 said:
I am not rooted.
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I wasn't able to find any way to get around Knox without rooting, but I may not have looked hard enough.
If you're willing to root first, CF Auto Root was super easy to do:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963790
Thanks for the reply. I have never rooted not flashed a rom and so I thought that the CM Installer would be an easy way to get started. However, basically like everyone else, they ran into issues with phones that had been upgraded to JB 4.3. They recently posted that they had found a way around it but I started to wonder if in fact they had when I got the message:
"An application attempted to access system on your device without authorization. This attempt has been blocked...."
I was trying to ascertain whether the message was due to Knox or another program?
Thanks for the reply. I have never rooted not flashed a rom and so I thought that the CM Installer would be an easy way to get started. However, basically like everyone else, they ran into issues with phones that had been upgraded to JB 4.3. They recently posted that they had found a way around it but I started to wonder if in fact they had when I got the message:
"An application attempted to access system on your device without authorization. This attempt has been blocked...."
I was trying to ascertain whether the message was due to Knox or another program?
Capa1970 said:
Thanks for the reply. I have never rooted not flashed a rom and so I thought that the CM Installer would be an easy way to get started. However, basically like everyone else, they ran into issues with phones that had been upgraded to JB 4.3. They recently posted that they had found a way around it but I started to wonder if in fact they had when I got the message:
"An application attempted to access system on your device without authorization. This attempt has been blocked...."
I was trying to ascertain whether the message was due to Knox or another program?
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That *is* a Knox message, for sure.
So it looks like the Cyanogenmod team were not able to circumvent Knox for their CM installer. It's probably just a matter of time. Here is the full Knox notification:
"An application attempted to access system on your device without authorization. This attempt has been blocked. Updating your security policy may solve this problem. Deleting applications obtained from unauthorized sources may improve security."
There are three options at the bottom of the screen: Cancel, Update, and View Apps.
Update: I was able two days ago to use the Cyanogenmod Installer and I am now running CM!! First time for me to ever root and flash a Rom (I was an iPhone guy).
The phone is faster and smoother. I never liked the Touchwiz lag and most of the Touchwiz features worked inconsistently. The only thing that I miss is the camera. I have not found any bugs yet and so am very happy thus far.
Suddenly I get a warning telling me to uninstall king root 4.9.6. I've been running same fulmics 6 for months and I just discovered the warning sign today.
What is this? Is there any potential danger to keeping king root? If I uninstall king root I will loose root privileges, yes?
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Suddenly I get a warning telling me to uninstall king root 4.9.6. I've been running same fulmics 6 for months and I just discovered the warning sign today.
What is this? Is there any potential danger to keeping king root? If I uninstall king root I will loose root privileges, yes?
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Fulmics has SuperSu installed as System application,there was no need to install KingRoot..
Also if you have two Root apps (same like SuperSu),then your phone isn't going to have a good time..
So delete KingRoot and stay with SuperSu.
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Thx. I used king root to first get root access so I could install fulmics. Iirc I found the king root from a post here on the forum, so I assumed it was safe.
I disabled king root.btw it is fulmics 6.1 I got. It seems all things good now. I feel a little paranoid, as I discovered king root is from China ?
I wonder if I should do complete install from scratch or am I safe as long as king root is not longer active?
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Thx. I used king root to first get root access so I could install fulmics. Iirc I found the king root from a post here on the forum, so I assumed it was safe.
I disabled king root.btw it is fulmics 6.1 I got. It seems all things good now. I feel a little paranoid, as I discovered king root is from China ?
I wonder if I should do complete install from scratch or am I safe as long as king root is not longer active?
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The best choice is to uninstall it.Because it has setted it's self as a system application.
But also i think it has an option (in-app) "Uninstall".
In addition if Kingroot is unable to uninstall by using the inapp option then try installing an app from Play store called " System app remover" and delete it from there.
If nothing works then doing a clean re-installation of the ROM would be a great option.
A Tip:Never install an other Root application while you have SuperSU.
Let's take Kingroot for an example, when you have SuperSU and install Kingroot then automatically Kingroot detects that you have an other root application and it set's it's self as system app.
System app remover did the trick. Removed the King Root app. Result is o/c that adaway is no longer working. So I get to play around with SuperSU now. As I am new to SuperSU I am not sure how to get the correct settings. Should I make SuperSU a system app? Or set permanent full root?
Btw, I never had any problems running King Root. It was even a very nice way to charge the phone because King Root made charging go faster.
I've been thinking about the warning sign I got, and could it possible be a generic warning because King Root had root access? Meaning I would get the same warning with other apps with root access?
It seems strange that King Root that is mentioned som many times here on XDA should be crapware. Surely some smart people would have noticed and made posts about it? I am thinking maybe I panic'd and removed King Root prematurely?
Darn it. SuperSU won't run or allow me to set root access to apps. So no TWRP does not work, adaway does not work, root checker confirms I don't have root anymore and to make things worse, SuperSU says I need to upgrade, so I downloaded the latest version as a zip file to install from TWRP but guess what, no more root access. I will try to boot manually into TWRP and install SuperSU. Hopefully that will work.
And reading SuperSU thread it clearly says I must have ROOT prioer to install SuperSU.
Is there are fulmics setting somewhere I have overlooked? Can I set root from within fulmics tweaks?
Well I didn't get the SuperSU working, then I discovered that there was a newer version of KingRoot, v5.0. So for the ease of it I just installed KingRoot v5.0. As of right now, I don't have any warning signs saying Kingroot is bad news.
So unless it is a known fact that kingroot is infected by crap/malware/spyware/whatever I think I just stick to that one for now. I am used to it, I know how to work it and google didn't find any indications kingroot has been compromised . I saw a few posts about earlier version sending IMEI to china, but it seems that was v3xx. v4x and5x seems to be ok.
If this is stupid behavior and I should remove king root let me know and pls add some links or something to back it. I would hate to give a compromised app gateway into my phone but at the same time I think I was in panic mode earlier today and that my reaction was uncalled for.
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Well I didn't get the SuperSU working, then I discovered that there was a newer version of KingRoot, v5.0. So for the ease of it I just installed KingRoot v5.0. As of right now, I don't have any warning signs saying Kingroot is bad news.
So unless it is a known fact that kingroot is infected by crap/malware/spyware/whatever I think I just stick to that one for now. I am used to it, I know how to work it and google didn't find any indications kingroot has been compromised . I saw a few posts about earlier version sending IMEI to china, but it seems that was v3xx. v4x and5x seems to be ok.
If this is stupid behavior and I should remove king root let me know and pls add some links or something to back it. I would hate to give a compromised app gateway into my phone but at the same time I think I was in panic mode earlier today and that my reaction was uncalled for.
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Then if you are used to Kingroot just uninstall SuperSu(Install the system app remover from Play store ((the first app that appears)).
Because as i mentioned before if you have two Root applications your phone isn't going to have a good time.
(That may be the problem your phone went to Panic Mode)
If you have Kernel Panic mode problems (after unstalling SuperSU) a clean reinstall of the latest version of Fulmics ROM would be great..
PS:I don't know if Kingroot has any type of virus but I'll check if it has anything malicious.
As i checked you said that you lost root access and you took it back with Kingroot right?
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Then if you are used to Kingroot just uninstall SuperSu(Install the system app remover from Play store ((the first app that appears)).
Because as i mentioned before if you have two Root applications your phone isn't going to have a good time.
(That may be the problem your phone went to Panic Mode)
If you have Kernel Panic mode problems (after unstalling SuperSU) a clean reinstall of the latest version of Fulmics ROM would be great..
PS:I don't know if Kingroot has any type of virus but I'll check if it has anything malicious.
As i checked you said that you lost root access and you took it back with Kingroot right?
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Seems I am good after all. Turned out I messed up the fulmics 6.1 badly when trying to get adaway for youtube to work. So now I got fulmics 6.5. Yeah I know it is not the latest but I had slow internet connection and 6.5 was already downloaded but not yet installed so I just picked that and did a swipe, and twrp install of fulmics 6.5.
I did however install king root 5.01 again to get an easy way of getting everything else important installed that requires root.
If I don't see more warnings I think I will be fine. If I do I will take the plunge for superSU and read up on that before making the switch.
If I see those warning signs again I will try not to panic and try to keep calm