[Q] Do I need a new launcher? - Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have been using xbmc for a while but I am new to using it on top of android. I recently sold me AppleTv and made the swtich to the Fire and I am very happy with my decision so far. That said launching the apps is a real pain. If I could get them in the actual fireTv menu this would be much more ideal as I am sure everyone agrees. To my knowledge that is still not possible at this point. So I am curious how everyone is running their apps. I have read some about launchers in XBMC is this the way to go? What is the best way to set this up?
Thanks

mcsephoenix said:
I have been using xbmc for a while but I am new to using it on top of android. I recently sold me AppleTv and made the swtich to the Fire and I am very happy with my decision so far. That said launching the apps is a real pain. If I could get them in the actual fireTv menu this would be much more ideal as I am sure everyone agrees. To my knowledge that is still not possible at this point. So I am curious how everyone is running their apps. I have read some about launchers in XBMC is this the way to go? What is the best way to set this up?
Thanks
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sideload firedtv its the best option i've found for myself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782307

I use XBMC as my launcher. You can add apps to your favourites to launch them easily or even integrate them into your skin if your skin permits it. Works very well so far. Only thing I use the Amazon launcher for is to force stop an App if it is stuck, still looking for a suitable app manager for this so I can ditch the Amazon launcher all together.

Is there any way to get the best of both worlds and use the fired launcher as the stock launcher but still be able to load apps from within XBMC. I am trying to keep this as user friendly as possible for the family who is a little overwhelmed by xbmc still.

mcsephoenix said:
Is there any way to get the best of both worlds and use the fired launcher as the stock launcher but still be able to load apps from within XBMC. I am trying to keep this as user friendly as possible for the family who is a little overwhelmed by xbmc still.
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This XBMC Launcher gives the best of both worlds and works great. There is a bit of a learning curve, as the Fire TV must be rooted for it to work. But well worth the effort when completed.

mjbxx said:
This XBMC Launcher gives the best of both worlds and works great. There is a bit of a learning curve, as the Fire TV must be rooted for it to work. But well worth the effort when completed.
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Thanks, I saw that but I wasn't thrilled about having to uninstall my current revision of xbmc. I am rooted but I am thinking I might just give FiredTV a shot for now and wait until someone figures out how to unlock the bootloader.

mcsephoenix said:
Thanks, I saw that but I wasn't thrilled about having to uninstall my current revision of xbmc. I am rooted but I am thinking I might just give FiredTV a shot for now and wait until someone figures out how to unlock the bootloader.
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Just backup your XBMC User Data, uninstall current version, install the XBMC Launcher and finally restore XBMC User Data. Believe me, it is absolutely worth the trouble as this launcher is the best option out there at this time. FiredTV is OK but nowhere near as functional and allowing for many features. This launcher literally morphs the Fire TV into an XBMC box.

mjbxx said:
Just backup your XBMC User Data, uninstall current version, install the XBMC Launcher and finally restore XBMC User Data. Believe me, it is absolutely worth the trouble as this launcher is the best option out there at this time. FiredTV is OK but nowhere near as functional and allowing for many features. This launcher literally morphs the Fire TV into an XBMC box.
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I took your advice and bit the bullet made the leap last night. For the most part things went smoothly and I am very happy I took your advice. I was a little bummed to lose all my skin settings IE my shortcuts but it will be worth the effort to set them back up.
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Will Ouya Have Android Launcher?

Hi everyone im thinking about buying an ouya but i wanted to know if you can acess the android launcher?
Thanks In advance!
Probably not. But since it's hackable I'm sure it's possible one way or another.
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Ryan Stampton said:
Hi everyone im thinking about buying an ouya but i wanted to know if you can acess the android launcher?
Thanks In advance!
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No they are using a modified version of ics with a completely customised front end as opposed to just a launcher that can be replaced.
However there will be modders who can make it access traditional android launcher and play store but no it won't officially and will only do so unofficially once people have had device to hack it.
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Yes it will
The odk has a launcher with framework. It is available on their website.
didn't they say its fully open source and rooted? im sure someone will bring different launchers to the console, maybe not a day after the release, but im pretty sure that will be possible. Now the question is, most of our launchers are touch-based, i can not imagine how you can use them with a gamepad.
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Chrizzly92 said:
didn't they say its fully open source and rooted? im sure someone will bring different launchers to the console, maybe not a day after the release, but im pretty sure that will be possible. Now the question is, most of our launchers are touch-based, i can not imagine how you can use them with a gamepad.
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Plug in a PS3 or Xbox controller to your Android device and you'll find out Most, if not all, launchers work with a controller. Hitting the navigation pad/stick moves from one icon to the next.
Chrizzly92 said:
didn't they say its fully open source and rooted?
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It's not fully open source.
http://www.ouya.tv/the-o-word/
Please note that we’re still working on releasing the source code for various elements of the ODK — and since some of it is compiled object code, you won’t have access (at least not today) to every single line we’ve written. We want to be sure things are in really great shape before we release code. Also, we will be holding back some sections of the code to preserve the security of OUYA, especially when it comes to payments for developers and gamers.
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It is fully rootable, but it doesn't come rooted.
For hackers: root it. Go ahead. Your warranty is safe. Even the hardware is hackable. Want to get inside? You’ll need a standard screwdriver and nothing more. Go to town. We have standard USB ports and Bluetooth, so you’ll even be able to create your own peripherals.
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So it looks like it will be some heavily modified android UI, like the original kindle fire?
It's not locked down in any way so I'm pretty sure someone will code a custom launcher for it. May not be ADW or NOVA but I am sure someone will make one.
i don't know that, but we can wait for the cm stock rom
Do you think they are ever gonna update it to android 4.1 or 4.2? Or is that just a waste.
Chrizzly92 said:
didn't they say its fully open source and rooted? im sure someone will bring different launchers to the console, maybe not a day after the release, but im pretty sure that will be possible. Now the question is, most of our launchers are touch-based, i can not imagine how you can use them with a gamepad.
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using a keyboard and mouse works well in any launcher so it wouldn't be to hard to work
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dwegiel said:
So it looks like it will be some heavily modified android UI, like the original kindle fire?
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looks like a hybrd of a cross bar system and the old style app menu, looked very nicely done though. is that the one you saw?
I could have sworn that an official from the team said something about stock launchers. The product is supposedly going to be launched with an easily unlocked mechanism for quick and powerful tweaking. This is supposed to be day one. Keep up on their blog, and ask for this on their social channels, my advice. They are definitely involved c:
Could the OUYA launcher be ported to an Android tablet or smartphone?
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Could the OUYA launcher be ported to an Android tablet or smartphone?
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That's what I'm hoping on O.O it's no fun having all of the games I like to purchase in a tiny little folder. No es fun :c
Love android
I would love to play an android game on my TV console that too in an Android launcher, preferrably JB
I would pay if ADW, Nova or Apex created a OUYA specific launcher...
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If you want the ouya launcher download the SDK from OUYA.tv and install the framework and launcher via regular side load. Proven to work on the nexus 7 and I can vouch for the Nook tablet 16GB from first hand experience. Does not look good on a phone though. In order to run the latest addition you need android 4.1+
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I sideloaded Nova Launcher very easily onto my Ouya. No modification needed. Works great. Little difficult to navigate with the controller, but definitely doable. Can access your Ouya games there and everything. Much more smooth than the Ouya launcher, that's for sure.

[Q&A] Ask a Developer your Ouya Questions

I backed Ouya on Kickstarter, and mine finally arrived today. There have been a lot of questions, a lot of speculation, and not many answers. I will personally be attempting to install a 3'rd party launcher, Google Play apps (store, music, movies) and other games and apps I have bought over the years on the Play Store. The point of this topic is for other people who are interested in buying one or have pre-ordered one to get answers to their questions, like I couldn't.
I have been an Android user since the original Motorola Droid on Verizon, and a Custom ROM Developer for the Samsung Fascinate, HTC Thunderbolt, and Droid Bionic. I will be working on a custom ROM for the Ouya as well once we get some reasonable safety measures to ensure I don't brick it while experimenting. Feel free to ask me anything, about app compatibility, features, user interface, whatever, I'll do my best to answer. I'll also keep this topic updated with my observations and experiences with hacking and modding this console.
Since I've already gone through the trouble of tracking down working apps I figured I'd save everyone else a few minutes and collect the working ones here:
How to install: From your Ouya browser click the link for any apk's you want to download. once the downloads have completed go to: Manage > System > Advanced > Storage > Downloads and select the apk files one by one.
Netflix: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/Netflix_2.1.2 build 787.apk I had audio issues on some shows until I rebooted, and an occasional freeze, but just hold down the "ouya" button on the controller to back out to home and open it up again.
Hulu Plus: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/Hulu Plus 2.6.201000.apk Seems to be working great!
Youtube: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/com.google.android.youtube.googletv-2.apk Works great.
Nova Launcher: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/com.teslacoilsw.launcher-1.apk Works great and opens up additional options in the settings menu. I choose to use this as the default launcher, since I can still access all my ouya games, and the ouya home from it much quicker than from ouya home.
Dropbox: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/com.dropbox.android-2.apk Works great with the controller, I use it to copy apps from my computer or phone easily.
Amazon App Store: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/com.amazon.venezia-2.apk Installed, logged in, and downloaded Angry birds, which didn't work so well.... Well, I mean it worked great, but was very difficult to play with the ouya controller. Time to hook up a bluetooth mouse. EDIT: after the initial time working so well, I cannot get it to work again. the main page opens but any app I click on it just brings up a blank screen. If anyone else experiences this please let me know...
XBMC: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u...f76-Gotham_alpha2_stagefright-armeabi-v7a.apk This is the latest XBMC build with hardware decoding. I didn't try any local/network video yet, but the streaming video from break.com looked fine.
Pandora: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/com.pandora.android-1.apk Works great, but since it's the Android interface you'll have on screen adds unless you pay for prime, and the "X" to close it is very tiny. However on the plus side if you go to Settings > Developer Options > Uncheck Don't keep activities Pandora can run in the background with a 3rd party launcher. So right now I'm listening to Whitesnake and installing the next app on my list to check tonight.
Flixter: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/net.flixster.android-1.apk Works, but not always. Final Destination 5 kept freezing at the same point every time, but I watched several minutes of The Dark Knight Rises on wifi and the quality was good and I had no issues.
Chrome: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/com.android.chrome-1.apk Works great, but due to lack of gapps framework you can't sign in, so no tab/bookmark syncing yet.
Non-working/Glitchy:
Facebook - Installed, logged in with no problem, but the interface is far to large to use. Imagine pictures that are 2 - 3 times larger than the screen, with tiny text and you'll get the idea. plus it crashed for no reason....
Twitter - Installed, could not log on. Got the error "Cannot create account" when trying to log in.
SuperSu - Installed, but once inside it said SU needed an update, and installation of that update failed.
Commenting to subscribe to the thread, excited to hear your plans and glad to see a bit more action around here.
I would suggest talking with Rayman ( posted the OTA download thread) he's also working on some development for it and I know we wanted to get some dumps from another ouya to confirm some things.
Definitely looking forward to the comments here. I received my Ouya today and excited to see what it can do.
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I'm certainly no developer, but I've had the same results regarding the play store, for what its worth. I have superuser installed and working. I attempted to use a similar method to getting the play store on the Kindle Fire, with no luck.
Has anyone dabbled with xbmc yet?
If so how is it performing?
dully79 said:
Has anyone dabbled with xbmc yet?
If so how is it performing?
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I played around with it a little. I was able to stream in HD from icefilms with no major problems. The most glaring issue that I saw was if you have a video playing, and decide to pull up the menu, it can be pretty sluggish. I only played with it for about 10 minutes or so, though.
Ok, time for another update. I'm very pleased with the graphics and performance of the console for the games that are available. Puddle THD looks amazing on the big screen, and aside from the camera issues it always had, I'm loving playing Mario 64 with a wireless controller using Mupen 64.
Back on the hacking side, I was able to sideload Nova Launcher successfully, and it opens up a lot of extra options in the settings menu, but I haven't had time to play with them yet. I was with family from out of town all weekend, but I'll be back home tonight and really try to crack this box open. I'll try XBMC myself tonight, are there any other apps anyone would like me to try loading?
sonofskywalker3 said:
Ok, time for another update. I'm very pleased with the graphics and performance of the console for the games that are available. Puddle THD looks amazing on the big screen, and aside from the camera issues it always had, I'm loving playing Mario 64 with a wireless controller using Mupen 64.
Back on the hacking side, I was able to sideload Nova Launcher successfully, and it opens up a lot of extra options in the settings menu, but I haven't had time to play with them yet. I was with family from out of town all weekend, but I'll be back home tonight and really try to crack this box open. I'll try XBMC myself tonight, are there any other apps anyone would like me to try loading?
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XBMC works great, but make sure to install the experimental "libstagefright" build for hardware acceleration support. If you could figure out Hulu that would be awesome, someone reported tweaking the APK a bit to get it working but never revealed what they did.
Yeah, I saw his post about it, with no followup. Hopefully the logcat will give me some insight into why it's crashing. It's a shame Ouya removed so much of the android framework that these apps rely on. I wonder if there will ever be an official Ouya release for some of these programs...
sonofskywalker3 said:
Yeah, I saw his post about it, with no followup. Hopefully the logcat will give me some insight into why it's crashing. It's a shame Ouya removed so much of the android framework that these apps rely on. I wonder if there will ever be an official Ouya release for some of these programs...
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Well XBMC and OUYA both promise one for XBMC at least, and I read that they're in talks to have Hulu and Netflix officially supported as well. I imagine it'll all depend on how the reaction at launch goes.
It would be really nice, but given streaming media providers attitude toward root users I wouldn't be surprised if they refused to play nice. I still can't watch an Ultraviolet movie on my Nexus 7 without temp unrooting it...
For Hulu, find the Hulu for Google tv apk, I found it online.
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Thank you! I saw that on an Ouyaforums thread and was going to try it tonight? how well does it work? I also saw somewhere that youtube for google tv works on the ouya as well, can anyone confirm that? I'll gather the apks together tonight, re-host them, and put some links in the OP.
sonofskywalker3 said:
Thank you! I saw that on an Ouyaforums thread and was going to try it tonight? how well does it work? I also saw somewhere that youtube for google tv works on the ouya as well, can anyone confirm that? I'll gather the apks together tonight, re-host them, and put some links in the OP.
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I can confirm that the googleTV youtube app works very well.
Updated OP with tons of links to tested working apps.
sonofskywalker3 said:
Updated OP with tons of links to tested working apps.
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Thanks! Hulu is working great.
Bluetooth not working
My controller and console work but the bluetooth on my console does not want to turn on so it just constantly tries to turn on so my controller can never connect.
Any help?
Do you have a usb keyboard and mouse to navigate with? if so I'd suggest going to the advanced settings menu (stock android settings) and try turning bluetooth on there. If you've already tried that and it doesn't work, your issue can be hardware or software. If it's hardware you're way past what I can help with, but if it's software these steps might work. Go to backup and reset under the same settings menu and do a factory reset. If that doesn't work the final step would be to follow the instructions to flash the latest ota software update through recovery. His instructions say to reboot and hit a key combination repeatedly to get recovery up, but if you have adb access you can just type "adb reboot recovery" in your terminal window and it will boot there directly.
Here's the link, good luck:
https://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/comment/11742/#Comment_11742
Thanks to MBM for the instructions, and Rayman for hosting the OTA downloads.
*disclaimer* I haven't tried this myself yet, but plan to tonight if you'd rather wait for a confirmation. Honestly though MBM has been working on the Ouya a lot longer than I have and his instructions line up with what I've done on other android devices. /*disclaimer*
one note about hulu plus. THe app you posted here 2.6 does not have options for keyboard control (which was indroduced in 2.8, the latest version.) for use with the controller, keyboards etc I have a copy of the apk which i will upload as soon as I have 10 posts and can post links (almost there haha). WHen I installed 2.8 by it self, it force closed but i was able to get it working by installing 2.6 from your post and then upgrading.
sonofskywalker3 said:
Do you have a usb keyboard and mouse to navigate with? if so I'd suggest going to the advanced settings menu (stock android settings) and try turning bluetooth on there. If you've already tried that and it doesn't work, your issue can be hardware or software. If it's hardware you're way past what I can help with, but if it's software these steps might work. Go to backup and reset under the same settings menu and do a factory reset. If that doesn't work the final step would be to follow the instructions to flash the latest ota software update through recovery. His instructions say to reboot and hit a key combination repeatedly to get recovery up, but if you have adb access you can just type "adb reboot recovery" in your terminal window and it will boot there directly.
Here's the link, good luck:
Thanks to MBM for the instructions, and Rayman for hosting the OTA downloads.
*disclaimer* I haven't tried this myself yet, but plan to tonight if you'd rather wait for a confirmation. Honestly though MBM has been working on the Ouya a lot longer than I have and his instructions line up with what I've done on other android devices. /*disclaimer*
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[Q] Ouya app installed but don't launch?

Hi everyone!
I have just gotten my Ouya device today and installed apps from my Samsung Galaxy S3 like Netflix, Youtube and XBMC... I did try installing some other apps called Showbox, USTV, and TVPortal but the thing is, they do install and when you launch them it goes back to the Ouya homescreen. Is there a way to run *any* android app on the Ouya even if modding the console itself or the apk file of the app? I would like those certain apps to work. If there is none I guess I will be selling it on the market.
Thank you.
-John
johnsnow5440 said:
Hi everyone!
I have just gotten my Ouya device today and installed apps from my Samsung Galaxy S3 like Netflix, Youtube and XBMC... I did try installing some other apps called Showbox, USTV, and TVPortal but the thing is, they do install and when you launch them it goes back to the Ouya homescreen. Is there a way to run *any* android app on the Ouya even if modding the console itself or the apk file of the app? I would like those certain apps to work. If there is none I guess I will be selling it on the market.
Thank you.
-John
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netflix, look for the 1.8.1 apk I beleive, you can find it on XDA here.
For youtube, I forget which version, Ill have to check mine and get back to you.
XBMC you can get from OUYA itself, you dont need to sideload it.
I found it best to get the amazon app store installed. Most apps on this seem to run good, since the hardware is similar to the kindle and nexus 7.
I used HULU from the amazon app store and it runs fine.
Im seeing more and more the version 1 of the OUYA was a bit of a disappointment and I was a kickstart backer (only 20$ though).
IF (big IF) they create a version 2 Im sure it will be much better but version one buyers and kickstart backers better get something for being R&D
tevil said:
netflix, look for the 1.8.1 apk I beleive, you can find it on XDA here.
For youtube, I forget which version, Ill have to check mine and get back to you.
XBMC you can get from OUYA itself, you dont need to sideload it.
I found it best to get the amazon app store installed. Most apps on this seem to run good, since the hardware is similar to the kindle and nexus 7.
I used HULU from the amazon app store and it runs fine.
Im seeing more and more the version 1 of the OUYA was a bit of a disappointment and I was a kickstart backer (only 20$ though).
IF (big IF) they create a version 2 Im sure it will be much better but version one buyers and kickstart backers better get something for being R&D
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It's fine. I sold it within 2 days because I don't like I can't install all android apps. It was very good with XBMC though

HD Widgets Works

I don't know how, but HD Widgets works just fine on my Fire TV. I've attached a screenshot (this is Nova Launcher). Too bad I can't do wallpaper as well.
I hate how Amazon had the nerve to remove widget support for all other launchers.
Nice find with the HD widgets thing!
Do I understand you correctly that you're using Nova Launcher and HD Widgets on a Fire TV box?
I use both on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Think they'd work on the stick?
I can confirm Nova Prime and HD Widgets work on my rooted AFTV with Rbox's mods. Was using Fired TV until I read these posts. No comparison. Now have an App Drawer, a Dock if I want it, and the ability to Drag icons around. Can't change wallpaper. Icons are resizable, can be dragged mid-grid and number Rows and Columns is adjustable. Icons and Labels can be edited. Haven't got around to trying Gestures and other features like Folders.
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I can confirm Nova Prime and HD Widgets work on my rooted AFTV with Rbox's mods. Was using Fired TV until I read these posts. No comparison. Now have an App Drawer, a Dock if I want it, and the ability to Drag icons around. Can't change wallpaper. Icons are resizable, can be dragged mid-grid and number Rows and Columns is adjustable. Icons and Labels can be edited. Haven't got around to trying Gestures and other features like Folders.
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Does the Fire TV box have to be rooted to run Nova and HD Widgets?
Jacksmyname said:
Does the Fire TV box have to be rooted to run Nova and HD Widgets?
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Does not look like it but you do need this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2786618
Exposed is required too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed
I've been rooted since day one so i really don't know. Try installing Exposed. If it loads then see if you can install and select the Rbox mods.
schneid said:
Does not look like it but you do need this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2786618
Exposed is required too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed
I've been rooted since day one so i really don't know. Try installing Exposed. If it loads then see if you can install and select the Rbox mods.
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Thanks.
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Does not look like it but you do need this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2786618
Exposed is required too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed
I've been rooted since day one so i really don't know. Try installing Exposed. If it loads then see if you can install and select the Rbox mods.
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Exposed and rbox's module require root.
collindv said:
Exposed and rbox's module require root.
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I guess answers it. Glad I rooted when you could.
I am using Square Home Launcher Tablet version but the proper way for nova to work is to move around the app drawer icon etc.. with a mouse and add your shorcuts.
Then simply use remote because icons will be close to each other.
Correct?
patt2k said:
I am using Square Home Launcher Tablet version but the proper way for nova to work is to move around the app drawer icon etc.. with a mouse and add your shorcuts.
Then simply use remote because icons will be close to each other.
Correct?
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This is the launcher I installed but haven't messed with on a couple of unRooted FireTV Stick's... Thanks for the heads up Patt2k.... Plan to install it on my Rooted FireTV's but was wondering how much can be done on a unRooted FireTV Stick. I gave the FireTV sticks as gifts so I won't get to play with them to often... But would like know if they have any limitations... I think LLama or MacroDroid can be use to make it launch seconds after the AFTV starts...
Have you tried to change the backgrounds & add widgets to the Square Home Launcher ?? Got any more picks of your latest setup ? I think either one, if not all launchers will need a mouse for moving stuff around since they are made for touch devices... Unless they are specifically made for the FireTV.
Has anybody tried HD Widgets on an unRooted FireTV or FireTV Stick ??
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This is the launcher I installed but haven't messed with on a couple of unRooted FireTV Stick's... Thanks for the heads up Patt2k.... Plan to install it on my Rooted FireTV's but was wondering how much can be done on a unRooted FireTV Stick. I gave the FireTV sticks as gifts so I won't get to play with them to often... But would like know if they have any limitations... I think LLama or MacroDroid can be use to make it launch seconds after the AFTV starts...
Have you tried to change the backgrounds & add widgets to the Square Home Launcher ?? Got any more picks of your latest setup ? I think either one, if not all launchers will need a mouse for moving stuff around since they are made for touch devices... Unless they are specifically made for the FireTV.
Has anybody tried HD Widgets on an unRooted FireTV or FireTV Stick ??
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Cool.. Seem to be same as before.. A lot of the icons seem to be huge.. But I guess One can resize them to well with a mouse. And organize things... Have you tried to mess with the wallpaper yet ??
patt2k said:
I am using Square Home Launcher Tablet version but the proper way for nova to work is to move around the app drawer icon etc.. with a mouse and add your shorcuts.
Then simply use remote because icons will be close to each other.
Correct?
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Yes.
Personally, I'm using a Logitech keyboard and mouse through a Unifiying dongle, which lets me attach both without using a hub: the dongle came with the mouse, and then I paired the keyboard with the dongle using my PC, because moving the dongle to the Fire TV. I've also found, interestingly, that this keyboard works with CWM Recovery and the bootloader menu.
To answer another question: any launcher will work without root, but it won't launch on boot, or come up when you hit the "Home" key, which means Fired TV is probably still your best bet if you lack root.
Y314K said:
Cool.. Seem to be same as before.. A lot of the icons seem to be huge.. But I guess One can resize them to well with a mouse. And organize things... Have you tried to mess with the wallpaper yet ??
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Its custom you can use any wallpaper i thought you tried the launcher already. And yepp you can resize icons (using mouse/change opacity/change icon backgrounds everything...
MTKnife said:
Yes.
Personally, I'm using a Logitech keyboard and mouse through a Unifiying dongle, which lets me attach both without using a hub: the dongle came with the mouse, and then I paired the keyboard with the dongle using my PC, because moving the dongle to the Fire TV. I've also found, interestingly, that this keyboard works with CWM Recovery and the bootloader menu.
To answer another question: any launcher will work without root, but it won't launch on boot, or come up when you hit the "Home" key, which means Fired TV is probably still your best bet if you lack root.
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Yes I know but I was just making sure because Nova Launcher basically with remote had no functionality.. that's why I am using Square Home Launcher you might wanna check it out. After you customize your icons it's perfect.
patt2k said:
Yes I know but I was just making sure because Nova Launcher basically with remote had no functionality.. that's why I am using Square Home Launcher you might wanna check it out. After you customize your icons it's perfect.
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In my case I literally had an extra mouse (mice, actually) and keyboard lying around, and so attaching them to the Fire TV didn't involve any trouble or expense. However, I think anyone who would like the ability to use apps designed for a touchscreen is going to want to have a mouse available on occasion--and it's not like you need it for launching apps once you have Nova set up. Therefore, I don't see any advantage to a launcher that can be set up solely with the remote.
MTKnife said:
Yes.
Personally, I'm using a Logitech keyboard and mouse through a Unifiying dongle, which lets me attach both without using a hub: the dongle came with the mouse, and then I paired the keyboard with the dongle using my PC, because moving the dongle to the Fire TV. I've also found, interestingly, that this keyboard works with CWM Recovery and the bootloader menu.
To answer another question: any launcher will work without root, but it won't launch on boot, or come up when you hit the "Home" key, which means Fired TV is probably still your best bet if you lack root.
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All my FireTV's are Rooted but I did gift some FireTV Sticks & would like to get those going with a launcher too.. Maybe LLama &/or MacroDroid might provide some answers... I am all set on the USB Keyboard/Mouse front.. Was able to pickup 5 Logitech K400's last month for $10 each... Also got some Nyko PlayPad Pro's for the FireTV Sticks which seem to work well as a mouse on them...
patt2k said:
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Its custom you can use any wallpaper i thought you tried the launcher already. And yepp you can resize icons (using mouse/change opacity/change icon backgrounds everything...
Yes I know but I was just making sure because Nova Launcher basically with remote had no functionality.. that's why I am using Square Home Launcher you might wanna check it out. After you customize your icons it's perfect.
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Good to know that wallpapers work fine on the it.. I installed the launcher on some FireTV Sticks for some friends but did not mess with the setup yet....
MTKnife said:
In my case I literally had an extra mouse (mice, actually) and keyboard lying around, and so attaching them to the Fire TV didn't involve any trouble or expense. However, I think anyone who would like the ability to use apps designed for a touchscreen is going to want to have a mouse available on occasion--and it's not like you need it for launching apps once you have Nova set up. Therefore, I don't see any advantage to a launcher that can be set up solely with the remote.
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Yeah.. Would love to see one of this full Android Launcher's provide full FTV compatibility... AKA no keyboard or mouse require...
Y314K said:
All my FireTV's are Rooted but I did gift some FireTV Sticks & would like to get those going with a launcher too.. Maybe LLama &/or MacroDroid might provide some answers... I am all set on the USB Keyboard/Mouse front.. Was able to pickup 5 Logitech K400's last month for $10 each... Also got some Nyko PlayPad Pro's for the FireTV Sticks which seem to work well as a mouse on them...
Good to know that wallpapers work fine on the it.. I installed the launcher on some FireTV Sticks for some friends but did not mess with the setup yet....
Yeah.. Would love to see one of this full Android Launcher's provide full FTV compatibility... AKA no keyboard or mouse require...
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I am using Squarehome Launcher on my non rooted fire tv and it works well except the preferences won't open. Anyone know why this is. I can even change the wallpaper on it but when I select options or preferences it just closes back to the launcher home screen. Works great on my rooted fire tv.

Help with emulators in kodi

I've only just recently started trying out emulators and nownim trying to launch them from within kodi. Its surprisingly not very straightforward, at least not for me. But I did somehow get my n64 ROMs to import. All the covers are there, however, eventhough all the ROMs launch in n64oid, very few work when I load them from within kodi??? I'm looking for anyntips. Thinking I'll eventually sort it out but now my issue is adding my new ROM collection on aftv. Using NES.emu ALL the ROMs work but the problem I have is I can't add emu as a source because it simply shows up nowhere on the sdcard. Tried uninstalling, tried moving it to another location but its just not there. N64oid and muppen show up just not NES.EMU...THAT might be what makes this a aftv problem more so than one I'd take to the kodi forums. Can someone tell me what going on? Thanks.
KLit75 said:
I've only just recently started trying out emulators and nownim trying to launch them from within kodi. Its surprisingly not very straightforward, at least not for me. But I did somehow get my n64 ROMs to import. All the covers are there, however, eventhough all the ROMs launch in n64oid, very few work when I load them from within kodi??? I'm looking for anyntips. Thinking I'll eventually sort it out but now my issue is adding my new ROM collection on aftv. Using NES.emu ALL the ROMs work but the problem I have is I can't add emu as a source because it simply shows up nowhere on the sdcard. Tried uninstalling, tried moving it to another location but its just not there. N64oid and muppen show up just not NES.EMU...THAT might be what makes this a aftv problem more so than one I'd take to the kodi forums. Can someone tell me what going on? Thanks.
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I think you are over complicating the whole thing. Add your Emulator as a Favorite and then add it to the shortcut. You can then remove it from the fav's. You will then have your emu as a shortcut that shows up always. As for roms. I'm not sure what you mean. Start the emu and then run your rom.
try retroarch. it has a lot of cores that work almost perfect on the ftv.
navigates said:
I think you are over complicating the whole thing. Add your Emulator as a Favorite and then add it to the shortcut. You can then remove it from the fav's. You will then have your emu as a shortcut that shows up always. As for roms. I'm not sure what you mean. Start the emu and then run your rom.
try retroarch. it has a lot of cores that work almost perfect on the ftv.
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Seems that would be a simple approach to get it to show up but, and remember I'm new to this, the way I add it is through file manager so adding it as a kodi favorite won't fix that. But if that works for you I might need to try a different method.
I've used retroarch and it is easy to get working but read awhile back people had serious issues integrating it to kodi. In fact, i didnt read they actually got it working. You understand I want to scrape ROMs into a game library in kodi, right? I've been able to run emulators for awhile and set shortcuts to them from within kodi but I'm finding full integration to be much more tricky.
Thanks for the reply. The guides are a bit intimidating but not overly hard. What I'm really wondering is why this app isn't showing up?
KLit75 said:
Seems that would be a simple approach to get it to show up but, and remember I'm new to this, the way I add it is through file manager so adding it as a kodi favorite won't fix that. But if that works for you I might need to try a different method.
I've used retroarch and it is easy to get working but read awhile back people had serious issues integrating it to kodi. In fact, i didnt read they actually got it working. You understand I want to scrape ROMs into a game library in kodi, right? I've been able to run emulators for awhile and set shortcuts to them from within kodi but I'm finding full integration to be much more tricky.
Thanks for the reply. The guides are a bit intimidating but not overly hard. What I'm really wondering is why this app isn't showing up?
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retroarch works very well. In my case, I took the old retroarch api which works very well on the firetv and added the cores from the latest version and did an inbound signature so it passes the api signature using one click. I have the apk which you could use. Send me a PM and I'll share it with you if you like.
That would be great. PM sent. Thanks a lot!
Have you tried ROM Collection Browser and/or Advanced Launcher? You shouldn't really have to mess with sources with RCB so long as the directory that your roms are contained in (or a directory higher up the tree) is also added as a source.
KLit75 said:
That would be great. PM sent. Thanks a lot!
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let us know your experience with the modified retroarch.
navigates said:
let us know your experience with the modified retroarch.
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I definitely will. Sorry. Havent had a lot of time to sit down and try it. But ill report here when i do. Hopefully soon!
Update--brilliant! Thanks again. Got everything to scan in. With the exception of some controller mapping and gameplay glitches which ill learn as i go, this was simple and painless.
Im big time into bells & whistles so eventually wouldlike to get newer emulators with gameplay videos running with fanart and covers but one thing at a time. Honestly if I'd known it would be this quick I wouldve done it sooner. Much appreciated!

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