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id prolly buy one at $30 just because it is bad ass!!!! id prefer $20 or $25 but whatever, lol still kinda cool
Well I'm unemployed starting last Friday so I have to make a couple of bucks on each one. I think it will end up being around $5 profit on each one so I won't be making much.
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Not trying to hijack this... but these are awesome. I built one last year for my G1 and other devices. Well worth it.
http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/solder.html
Since it looks like you're basically buying the LadyAda kit [that circuit definitely looks like one of hers] and building it, I could see $30 being a decent price (as long as you're using the v3 of the kit) IF you're throwing in the batteries.
I can't see paying an extra $10 just for you building the kit though (sorry, but I know how easy it is to solder those).
Unless you can get those parts significantly cheaper than what LadyAda is selling her kits for, I don't see this being very profitable for you.
Newegg has the same basic thing in a (admittedly less cool looking case) for $20.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875999294&Tpk=N82E16875999294
I've seen similar [not identical] items got for as low as $2 in the past: http://www.goldengadgets.com/emergency-aa-mobile-phone-charger.html
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Since it looks like you're basically buying the LadyAda kit [that circuit definitely looks like one of hers] and building it, I could see $30 being a decent price (as long as you're using the v3 of the kit) IF you're throwing in the batteries.
I can't see paying an extra $10 just for you building the kit though (sorry, but I know how easy it is to solder those).
Unless you can get those parts significantly cheaper than what LadyAda is selling her kits for, I don't see this being very profitable for you.
Newegg has the same basic thing in a (admittedly less cool looking case) for $20.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875999294&Tpk=N82E16875999294
I've seen similar [not identical] items got for as low as $2 in the past: http://www.goldengadgets.com/emergency-aa-mobile-phone-charger.html
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The only part coming from ladyada is the pcb. Like I said, this is an open source design and I was simply offering to make it for people who don't know how to solder.
Again, if you're interested in this let me know. I'll figure out a concrete price later tonight maybe. I'll have to see what shipping is going to look like. I'm not going to make much money on these at all.
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Sheesh, give the guy a break, he's just trying to make a buck. It's a good idea. People do the same thing on the diy guitar pedal effects forums - basically building kits for people who either don't know how or who just don't want to deal with it.
Good luck to the OP.
Do you have a website to sell them from yet?
I'm on board for 3!
It's cool, but I'd like to see what TSA airport security would make of this.
First off, this is cool as hell.
Secondly, since the tin basically doesn't make any difference to performance, you could put it anything right ? Cigarette tin ? Old Gameboy ? Broken effects pedal ? Is it harder to add more batteries for extra capacity if you have the space ?
Finally, is entering the realms of crazy hard to add a 9v jack to this and make the whole unit rechargeable without replacing the batteries ?
Did anyone else see this and their brain connected straight to Steampunk Altoids Tin Etching ? Oh the possibilities Now I just need to make friends with someone who owns chemicals and won't end up dissolving me with them.
If you do go into making these, then I'd be interested as long as they'll let you ship them airmail. I can't see it being a problem, since you can ship most anything, but home made circuitry might be a problem for obvious reasons. Keep updating tho, is a cool project
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It's cool, but I'd like to see what TSA airport security would make of this.
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I've heard/read of people flying with these before and I can't see it being a problem as long as you don't try to hide it. Just open it up and they might ask you to connect it to your phone to show that it actually works.
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First off, this is cool as hell.
Secondly, since the tin basically doesn't make any difference to performance, you could put it anything right ? Cigarette tin ? Old Gameboy ? Broken effects pedal ? Is it harder to add more batteries for extra capacity if you have the space ?
Finally, is entering the realms of crazy hard to add a 9v jack to this and make the whole unit rechargeable without replacing the batteries ?
Did anyone else see this and their brain connected straight to Steampunk Altoids Tin Etching ? Oh the possibilities Now I just need to make friends with someone who owns chemicals and won't end up dissolving me with them.
If you do go into making these, then I'd be interested as long as they'll let you ship them airmail. I can't see it being a problem, since you can ship most anything, but home made circuitry might be a problem for obvious reasons. Keep updating tho, is a cool project
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On the topic of adding extra batteries, you can easily add a third AA but doing more than that will raise the voltage over the input voltage of the chip. You could theoretically put 4 batteries; two sets of series in parallel. However, it is generally regarded as bad practice to put batteries in parallel for reasons I won't go into. It is not possible to use a 9V battery with this particular circuit because the voltage is too high. There are ways to reduce it but it complicates the circuit and wastes a lot of energy. Besides that, 9V batteries do not have as much capacity as AAs.
There is supposed to be a new "version" of this being made that will include recharging abilities but I don't have an eta.
I'm working out a pricing right now for a lot of 10. I figure that is a good starting point and buying in quantities greater than 10 reduces the cost of materials quite a bit. I'll post that tonight.
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First off, this is cool as hell.
Secondly, since the tin basically doesn't make any difference to performance, you could put it anything right ? Cigarette tin ? Old Gameboy ? Broken effects pedal ? Is it harder to add more batteries for extra capacity if you have the space ?
Finally, is entering the realms of crazy hard to add a 9v jack to this and make the whole unit rechargeable without replacing the batteries ?
Did anyone else see this and their brain connected straight to ? Oh the possibilities Now I just need to make friends with someone who owns chemicals and won't end up dissolving me with them.
If you do go into making these, then I'd be interested as long as they'll let you ship them airmail. I can't see it being a problem, since you can ship most anything, but home made circuitry might be a problem for obvious reasons. Keep updating tho, is a cool project
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You could do it pretty easily adding a 5-12V jack, a diode and a current limiting resistor to slow charge (overnight) the batteries. That would be the easiest/cheapest. Fast charging would require a little more intelligence.
You could, for instance, make it chargable from a USB port pretty easily.
Okay everyone,
Looks like if I make 10 of these at a time, the price will be $30. That will include everything except Altoids tin and Batteries with USPS Flat Rate shipping. The circuit will be soldered and tested before being shipped.
For those who would like me to include the Altoids tin and mount the circuitry, it will make the price $35. $2 of that is for the tin itself, and the other $3 is for the work with a dremel and securing the circuit to the tin. If you don't need me to cut the tin and install the circuit, then it will be $32. I have not found Altoids Gum tins around me, but as soon as I find them, I'll see what they cost.
For those who want it shipped some other method, I can add/subtract the cost for that method of shipping. For example, if UPS Overnight adds $10, then I will add $10 to the final price. But if something like UPS Ground is only $2, then I will subtract the difference between the USPS Flat Rate and the UPS Ground.
As you can see, I'm going to be very flexible with this. I can even add a solar cell and Lithium Battery, that would add $55. Quite expensive but for those who want a neat gadget it's available. But, I have not built the Solar Version before and while it is supposed to be pretty easy, I may take a little longer to test it. I've heard it takes around 2 days to charge the battery that way. The lithium battery is 1200mAh at 3.7V or 4.4Wh minus some inefficiencies.
As of right now, Paypal would be the best way to pay. Cash is always accepted but I strongly advice against sending cash through the mail. Just send me a PM if your interested and I will give you my paypal email. As soon I have 10 confirmed buyers, I'll place the order for parts and ship them as soon as they're completed. I'm unemployed so it won't take long to make but I do have classes Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday nights. I also plan on testing each circuit on my own phone before shipping to verify it works.
I know it's generally bad taste to double post but this was completely unrelated to my previous post.
I just ran my phone down to 80% as read by BatteryLife Widget, placed it on the Altoids charger and roughly 20 minutes later my screen lit up with the "Battery Full" screen.
Tomorrow/overnight tonight I will run my phone down to 25% and see how full it will charge using two AA Energizer Rechargeables.
Keep in mind the max charge rate with this is 500mA vs the 700mA of the wall charger so it is not as quick as using your wall wart.
First let me say that the offer and tin is way cool! I would be one of those people who would take on the offer because i have no solder skills or intention to learn them at all.
But from a practical point of view wouldn't it be much cheaper and easier to carry two spare batteries for your device? I always carry a charged one with me (for htc desire).
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First let me say that the offer and tin is way cool! I would be one of those people who would take on the offer because i have no solder skills or intention to learn them at all.
But from a practical point of view wouldn't it be much cheaper and easier to carry two spare batteries for your device? I always carry a charged one with me (for htc desire).
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Sure, you could carry an extra battery but this allows you to charge without turning the phone off. It can also charge almost any device that can charge from usb. So if you have an ipod or other mp3 player, it can charge that too.
Also, for someone like me, when I go camping, I can just bring a few extra AAs and keep my phone going all weekend.
There also is no gadget/nerdy factor of switching batteries but pulling out an Altoids tin and charging your phone is definitely that.
But yes, you could certainly carry two extra batteries and accomplish generally the same thing.
As for the cheaper part, I have no idea. It probably is cheaper for two ebay batteries but personally I don't trust anything but oem quality and some extended battery manufacturers but those haven't been made yet.
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i have a mini solar cell that fits perfectly over the top tin, how would I integrate that into the charger to charge the batteries only when im not using it?
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i have a mini solar cell that fits perfectly over the top tin, how would I integrate that into the charger to charge the batteries only when im not using it?
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That would depend on the specs of the solar cell. But assuming it outputs the proper voltage, you would want to you use a lithium battery and a lithium charging circuit.
Post or pm me a link to the specs on the solar cell and I'll let you know if it is possible to make it work without too much trouble.
A little update on capacity: It has taken the phone from 40% - 63% in 50 minutes.
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It looks like there's room to fit 4 batteries in
I am looking to swap from an LG V20 (H910) to the OnePlus 7 Pro... The main thing holding me back is a good extended battery for the new phone... With the LG V20, it apparently was one of the last phones that offered a removable battery, and this let it exchange the original 3,200 mAh for a 10,800 mAh battery, and just put on a replacement rear cover... While I know that this will not work on the OnePlus, they do have similar cases available for the iPhones that plug into the normal port and charge them through that port from an extended battery life battery-case...
My searches have so far come up negative, and this is the main issue preventing me getting the phone... I have very large hands, so I actually prefer the phone to be physically large anyway, makes me feel less like I am going to break it...
You help is appreciated
Surely Zerolemon will make one before long, but no word yet. They did one for the last few OnePlus phones, so it would reason the 7 Pro is on the list. Might try a DASH ready power bank, or wait for a WARP ready one to come out but having it built into a case is optimal for some.
I am genuinely interested in the use scenarios for these in modern phones. Do you travel a lot, need multi day use, play a lot of games, use it as a primary work device or actually talk on your phone a lot? I use my phone an embarrassing amount every day, probably more than I should but would not need something like this. Intrigued by demographic of accessories like this.
I have personally used them in the past but when phones were different.
I, too, am hoping zero lemon releases a battery case for the oneplus 7 pro. It's mainly for my prolonged usage of playing pokemon go.
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I am genuinely interested in the use scenarios for these in modern phones. Do you travel a lot, need multi day use, play a lot of games, use it as a primary work device or actually talk on your phone a lot? I use my phone an embarrassing amount every day, probably more than I should but would not need something like this. Intrigued by demographic of accessories like this.
I have personally used them in the past but when phones were different.
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@thetonyclifton I'll give you a good one.
I road ride, quite a bit (for a 50-something guy), I used to race, not that many years ago, so I still ride as far as my darn foot/nerve issue will let me, which can be 75+ (mi), on some weekends.
Here in the PNW, it's very easy to get into areas, even on a road bike where my service (ATT) "wanes" or just is completely gone (this is particularly bad when I go on a long MTB, which is less often).
Same for hiking around here, although I mostly just turn my cell off when I'm hiking, or leave it at home, just depends.
Anyway, if I'm out all day, say 6-8+ hours, on a ride/lunch-stop/ride, along those lines, and going in/out of coverage, it REALLY eats up my battery, FAST. I like to be able to rely on it, to check the weather six times, when it starts to look "threatening" later on, send a few texts, whatever, without wondering if I'm going to run out of juice, towards the end, that kind of stuff. This case would "fit the need", pretty much perfectly", as "one unit", rather than carrying a separate extra battery cable, etc (jersey pockets will only hold so much ;-]).
All that said though, I like using Qi receivers, having come from a LONG line of WinPhones that had the built-in, WAY back, so all my Android phones (Nexus 6, OP5T, OP6, now OP7Pro, the rest "trickled down into our family") have had a Qi receiver on them, behind a basic TPU case.
Occasionally, I carry slim-ish battery pack, with a Qi charging coil built into it, but that's also a bit much for a jersey-pocket.
If I had this type of pack, I'd install it, before long rides/hikes/etc, and and it'd solve my issue, of low-coverage being so darn tough on ANY phone battery, in one, nice, modular package. Not saying I'd buy one of these, 100%, but I'd definitely be a good candidate.
I do hear what you're saying, the "use case" for these having changed a LOT, say from 10 years back, there's no question about the overall advancement making these somewhat less "necessary".
On the other hand, I do like only having to charge my sports-activity watch every 3 days or so, that kind of "appliance-like" dependability is pretty cool; perhaps not necessary in a phone these days, but still pretty cool! I don't think anyone would "turn away" a 2-3 day phone, (say with 4-6hrs screen-on-time/day), if battery-tech evolved, in some rapid way, anytime soon
If this case had an Qi-coil built into it, then I bet it WOULD REALLY SELL, given the lack of Qi coil on the OP7-series, if anyone from ZeroLemon is listening...
So yeah, there's my diatribe, and perhaps some light on an "interesting subject", I suppose...
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@thetonyclifton I'll give you a good one.
I road ride, quite a bit (for a 50-something guy), I used to race, not that many years ago, so I still ride as far as my darn foot/nerve issue will let me, which can be 75+ (mi), on some weekends.
Here in the PNW, it's very easy to get into areas, even on a road bike where my service (ATT) "wanes" or just is completely gone (this is particularly bad when I go on a long MTB, which is less often).
Same for hiking around here, although I mostly just turn my cell off when I'm hiking, or leave it at home, just depends.
Anyway, if I'm out all day, say 6-8+ hours, on a ride/lunch-stop/ride, along those lines, and going in/out of coverage, it REALLY eats up my battery, FAST. I like to be able to rely on it, to check the weather six times, when it starts to look "threatening" later on, send a few texts, whatever, without wondering if I'm going to run out of juice, towards the end, that kind of stuff. This case would "fit the need", pretty much perfectly", as "one unit", rather than carrying a separate extra battery cable, etc (jersey pockets will only hold so much ;-]).
All that said though, I like using Qi receivers, having come from a LONG line of WinPhones that had the built-in, WAY back, so all my Android phones (Nexus 6, OP5T, OP6, now OP7Pro, the rest "trickled down into our family") have had a Qi receiver on them, behind a basic TPU case.
Occasionally, I carry slim-ish battery pack, with a Qi charging coil built into it, but that's also a bit much for a jersey-pocket.
If I had this type of pack, I'd install it, before long rides/hikes/etc, and and it'd solve my issue, of low-coverage being so darn tough on ANY phone battery, in one, nice, modular package. Not saying I'd buy one of these, 100%, but I'd definitely be a good candidate.
I do hear what you're saying, the "use case" for these having changed a LOT, say from 10 years back, there's no question about the overall advancement making these somewhat less "necessary".
On the other hand, I do like only having to charge my sports-activity watch every 3 days or so, that kind of "appliance-like" dependability is pretty cool; perhaps not necessary in a phone these days, but still pretty cool! I don't think anyone would "turn away" a 2-3 day phone, (say with 4-6hrs screen-on-time/day), if battery-tech evolved, in some rapid way, anytime soon
If this case had an Qi-coil built into it, then I bet it WOULD REALLY SELL, given the lack of Qi coil on the OP7-series, if anyone from ZeroLemon is listening...
So yeah, there's my diatribe, and perhaps some light on an "interesting subject", I suppose...
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Thanks. Yes that is interesting. I can see a use for people regularly away from a charger with very heavy use. People who work in the field etc too I guess. Though I think a good power bank would be better in quite a few of those cases too.
Enjoy the bike, great hobby.
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Thanks. Yes that is interesting. I can see a use for people regularly away from a charger with very heavy use. People who work in the field etc too I guess. Though I think a good power bank would be better in quite a few of those cases too.
Enjoy the bike, great hobby.
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@thetonyclifton Yep, no question, I could "work around" the issue, with a small/slim power bank type of deal, but the added-battery case, particularly IF it added Qi charging, would be an awesome option to have.
Thanks for the cycling comment, I enjoy it, immensely, riding-fast/skiing-fast (I used to race here, too) are sort of my Zen-moments ;-]
I've also traveled by bike (i.e. loaded touring bike), pretty extensively, which is another (albeit adjunct) use-case for topic at-hand.
Hobbies are a good thing, it's hard to have too many (although my wife might disagree ;-0)...
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@thetonyclifton Yep, no question, I could "work around" the issue, with a small/slim power bank type of deal, but the added-battery case, particularly IF it added Qi charging, would be an awesome option to have.
Thanks for the cycling comment, I enjoy it, immensely, riding-fast/skiing-fast (I used to race here, too) are sort of my Zen-moments ;-]
I've also traveled by bike (i.e. loaded touring bike), pretty extensively, which is another (albeit adjunct) use-case for topic at-hand.
Hobbies are a good thing, it's hard to have too many (although my wife might disagree ;-0)...
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A good Garmin or similar specific accessory for the bike might cut down on your need for phone use while out there...and be another thing to annoy your wife ?
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A good Garmin or similar specific accessory for the bike might cut down on your need for phone use while out there...and be another thing to annoy your wife
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Yeah, I've considered it, I have an old "Oregon XXX" unit I use, with good base-maps, for loaded touring, but I mostly just pull it out when I'm confused about something on a map, or similar, or I'm looking for someplace to buy groceries ;-]
If the Garmin or another bike GPS ever gets to a "decent enough battery life" (hmm, interesting that this is a cell-battery thread...), say a couple weeks worth, like 30-40 hours of riding, I'd be a lot more interested.
I like the fact that my "good old altimeter bike computer" runs for a solid 12-18 months, on a single coin-cell (wish it were a rechargeable, but that's tough with coin-cells), and just "counts my miles and climbing, basic stats", without fail.
I get a hard-time, in my fast riding group, for being a s/w-h/w engineering guy, but eschewing a "real GPS cycling computer", when darn near everyone else has their fancy Garmin's, or whatever ;-]
I do use an old Suunto Ambit 3 watch, for tracking my weekly riding, but it runs a good 30-40 hours, in "high GPS mode", and 100-120, in "low GPS mode", which is handy for touring, I can easily go a week without having to charge it.
For touring though, it'd have to be a step-up, still (from current GPS units-battery), maybe an ultra-low-GPS-screen-off-mostly "mode", or something like that, so it'd go for at least 5-7 days, without a charge. I'm often camped, and carrying an extra battery for my phone is enough, already, I don't want to carrying more, or even having to charge the GPS every or every-other day, that'd just be annoying, I'm a little more "back to basics" when I'm touring ;-]
I have a decent "general sense of direction", in most cases, and a pretty solid "visual route memory", so unless I'm exploring someplace new, I don't use maps when out riding, much anyway (solo exploring new streets/routes, perhaps), probably comes from years of backpacking and climbing, often off-route stuff, you sort of get a "feel" for how to dead-reckon stuff, or how to pick out a few landmarks, and keep yourself going the "general right way", I guess...
Or I'm a complete weirdo, which is possible, although my daughter seems to have the same sense, when we're bike touring (my wife could get lost in a subdivision though, and would admit to that;-]), she and I are the ones pouring over the map, and pointing at stuff, it's kinda' comical ;-]
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Yeah, I've considered it, I have an old "Oregon XXX" unit I use, with good base-maps, for loaded touring, but I mostly just pull it out when I'm confused about something on a map, or similar, or I'm looking for someplace to buy groceries ;-]
If the Garmin or another bike GPS ever gets to a "decent enough battery life" (hmm, interesting that this is a cell-battery thread...), say a couple weeks worth, like 30-40 hours of riding, I'd be a lot more interested.
I like the fact that my "good old altimeter bike computer" runs for a solid 12-18 months, on a single coin-cell (wish it were a rechargeable, but that's tough with coin-cells), and just "counts my miles and climbing, basic stats", without fail.
I get a hard-time, in my fast riding group, for being a s/w-h/w engineering guy, but eschewing a "real GPS cycling computer", when darn near everyone else has their fancy Garmin's, or whatever ;-]
I do use an old Suunto Ambit 3 watch, for tracking my weekly riding, but it runs a good 30-40 hours, in "high GPS mode", and 100-120, in "low GPS mode", which is handy for touring, I can easily go a week without having to charge it.
For touring though, it'd have to be a step-up, still (from current GPS units-battery), maybe an ultra-low-GPS-screen-off-mostly "mode", or something like that, so it'd go for at least 5-7 days, without a charge. I'm often camped, and carrying an extra battery for my phone is enough, already, I don't want to carrying more, or even having to charge the GPS every or every-other day, that'd just be annoying, I'm a little more "back to basics" when I'm touring ;-]
I have a decent "general sense of direction", in most cases, and a pretty solid "visual route memory", so unless I'm exploring someplace new, I don't use maps when out riding, much anyway (solo exploring new streets/routes, perhaps), probably comes from years of backpacking and climbing, often off-route stuff, you sort of get a "feel" for how to dead-reckon stuff, or how to pick out a few landmarks, and keep yourself going the "general right way", I guess...
Or I'm a complete weirdo, which is possible, although my daughter seems to have the same sense, when we're bike touring (my wife could get lost in a subdivision though, and would admit to that;-]), she and I are the ones pouring over the map, and pointing at stuff, it's kinda' comical ;-]
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Don't think you are a weirdo but think you are destined to be in the niche of a niche for these products ?
You have very unique use scenarios. Basically you need the stuff they give the military ? or for people who live off grid.
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I am genuinely interested in the use scenarios for these in modern phones. Do you travel a lot, need multi day use, play a lot of games, use it as a primary work device or actually talk on your phone a lot? I use my phone an embarrassing amount every day, probably more than I should but would not need something like this. Intrigued by demographic of accessories like this.
I have personally used them in the past but when phones were different.
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I currently have an LG V20, which at this point looks like it is going to be the last phone to ever have a removable battery, and switched it to have an 10,800 mAh battery instead (I even ebay'ed a replacement back cover, and man hacked it to have a hole for the new battery, this let the NFC continue working)
I have found that at first I can get about 2 days of normal use out of them when new, but after just a few months, I am getting down to just 20% or so at the end of the day... I prefer to just plug when I go to sleep rather than constantly topping off during the day... I think the original phone would only get me through about 1/3 of my day after just a few months, so I think phones should ship with 10,000 mAh batteries from the factory... I think that Energizer phone has the right idea, just a terrible implementation
Also as I mentioned, I have giant hands, and prefer to have a phone that doesn't feel like it could give me a papercut if I hold it too tight... I like my brick phone
Looks like Zero Lemon has no ETA for producing a case for the 7 Pro, lets hope that changes soon.
https://twitter.com/zero_lemon/status/1137919555760640000
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A good Garmin or similar specific accessory for the bike might cut down on your need for phone use while out there...and be another thing to annoy your wife
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Looks like Zero Lemon has no ETA for producing a case for the 7 Pro, lets hope that changes soon.
https://twitter.com/zero_lemon/status/1137919555760640000
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@graycatgrayhat Send them a "customer contact message", I did. The more they get, the more likely it is they'll produce one, particularly if they're "teetering" on their decision to make one for the OP7 Pro. Worst, case, you spent 60 seconds filling out a short-form...
Oh yeah, and ask for it to have a Qi coil, in the ZeroLemon pack, I REALLY think that would make this thing sell like hotcakes, given that it adds a LOT more than just a bigger battery runtime (wireless charging, while still having access to the USB port, something that is not really do-able with the current phone, my USB plugged with my cheesy, low-current-but-effective Qi coil, already, and I'd love to have it back...).
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Don't think you are a weirdo but think you are destined to be in the niche of a niche for these products
You have very unique use scenarios. Basically you need the stuff they give the military or for people who live off grid.
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Yeah, most of my friends would agree with you, I've been a niche cyclist/explorer, most of my life. My Dad is a geologist, and we spent many times in "odd spots" in various places in Alaska, checking out old mines, surveying new sites, driving HUGE heavy equipment (I drove a D9 Cat when I was 10, across a big river too, and could drive a loader and operate it, by the same age, along with other stuff, backhoes, forklifts and such, I'm definitely "odd").
I would say though, even though my use-cases might be viewed as sort of "fringe", I bet a LOT of people would like to get 2-3+ days, from any of the aforementioned devices, right?
I will say, too, that when I started bike-touring, in the early 90's, I had a little solar-grid, that would recharge AA or AAA batteries, very effectively. It was "ahead of its' time, fully-sealed and all, I still have it somewhere, although I haven't used it for a few years now. It kept my headlamp and the few other batteries I had, back then, charged along my first 5.5 week tour, just bumping along on the back of a pannier...
I sure wish they used AAA and AA (rechargeable) batteries for more devices, these days, you can get REALLY energy-dense models, that last for a LONG time, charges-wise, and then you can simply replace them, eh? Plus, you'd have less problems with a "cheap cell replacement battery from who-knows-where, hoping that it wasn't going to catch fire, the first few times you charge it).
I get that a AAA has a pretty big diameter, for most modern mobiles, but I think it would be close, really close, say in my OnePlus 7 phone, in terms of being able to "just slide in" a set, on one end or something, and still have room for a full rubber seal around the compartment...
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I get that a AAA has a pretty big diameter, for most modern mobiles, but I think it would be close, really close, say in my OnePlus 7 phone, in terms of being able to "just slide in" a set, on one end or something, and still have room for a full rubber seal around the compartment...
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Your uses are interesting, bit unusual, not odd just niche which make product development unlikely.
The disposal batteries in a phone are never going to happen. It's not the size of the battery it's the totally empty space needed to fit them in. Phone companies, not even 3rd party accessory manufacturers are also not going to trust degradable batteries with so much room for user error, poor contact connections and poor user practice to hook up to phones with heat and high voltage chargers.
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Your uses are interesting, bit unusual, not odd just niche which make product development unlikely.
The disposal batteries in a phone are never going to happen. It's not the size of the battery it's the totally empty space needed to fit them in. Phone companies, not even 3rd party accessory manufacturers are also not going to trust degradable batteries with so much room for user error, poor contact connections and poor user practice to hook up to phones with heat and high voltage chargers.
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Yeah, maybe. There are phones with >5000 mAh batteries now, although most of those aren't very optimized, to really take advantage of the extra longevity, the ones I've seen anyway.
I still think that people would be "elated", to be able to use their mobiles, full-tilt, for 2-3 days, and still have "enough juice left" to not stress...
I don't mean "disposable batteries", for the AAA, and AA, suggestions, I mean "rechargeable" ones.
It's pretty easy to buy high-quality, 3000+ mAH AA's, and similar AAA's, upwards of 1200 mAH now.
On the other hand, if I order a "random replacement LiIon cell", for my mobile, it's VERY hard to find one, aftermarket, that's of "known good quality", all the battery "re-packagers" have learned to put OEM-looking stamps on them, and even things like the "UL logo"...
Even IF you do manage to find a decent replacement, it's generally a HUGE pain to replace it, involving a lot of very precise cutting (glue around edges), sketchy prying, tugging, pulling, and swearing, trying to get a phone apart "enough", to slot the new battery in...
LiIon is a MUCH more dangerous tech to "get wrong" too, in terms of the line/signal that reports the temperature and charging-state, back to the input line, than NiMH.
Even so, there are also high-quality rechargeable AAA LiIon's out there, too, with even (obviously) higher energy-density, than their NiMH precursors, if you will.
I get that the era of "replaceable LiIon brick-batteries" has probably come/gone, but I think that a "standardized" battery, perhaps the newer AAAA (in NiMH or LiIon), with high-quality cells, at only 8.3mm diameter is "the candidate".
Or, maybe I'm just looking for "a solution without a problem", but I doubt it.
How many people pay some "random cell repair store" say $40-80, plus the cost of an "unknown LiIon brick battery", on a regular basis. I bet almost ALL of those people would be elated, if they could just undo a few screws, buy some decent (Panasonic, Sanyo, etc.) AAA or AAAA cells, pop-them-in, and go back to "full capacity", after 1.5 years of a mobile devices' life, for only say $10-15?
That "seems" like a pretty good, real-world scenario (well beyond my "niche" stuff), IMHO...
Good banter, BTW!
It's always "refreshing" to come over to XDA, from things like the ATT and OnePlus forums. There are some sharp people, who know the industry, on those boards, too, but "less so", on average ;-]
If I were writing much code anymore, I'd probably spend a lot more time on XDA, but I've moved over to the "evil Tech-PM" type of roles, although I am "that PM" who often jumps in and starts debugging stuff, or signs off on a code-review for check-in, which is sometimes appreciated, and sometimes just annoys people, it depends on the team(s) I'm working with...
What I"m really aiming for, is to find a tech-PM role that's mostly remote; I have a bad nerve injury, that prevents me from sitting or standing for any length of continuous time (although I can still put in a 2-3 hour ride, it's a "nerve neutral" position, for me, for about that length of time), so it's a "weird deal" to be a PM who's always "pacing around" meetings, even if I'm not presenting (presenting can make it easier, to stand-up/sit-down). I'm perfectly eligible for disability, although I just don't ever see that happening, I'm way too driven ;-]
I could probably be a moderator, in many places, but I like to "bring teams together" on tech-issues, even down to the individual-interface level (API, whatever), I find that much more satisfying, professionally, than doing "policing" ;-]
@pgrey2
I think the answer is actually in your narrative. Exactly because people will make ropey versions of replaceable batteries and in so doing make them more dangerous. Because the phone manufacturers lose the control over their phones exploding when that is someone else fault. And because replacing batteries even with great, safe after market versions will prolong the life of a device which they want you to replace every couple of years. It won't happen. People will love to have 2-3 day battery life and it might happen but so far the new features of a phone have been draining batteries at the same rate as their capacity, size and cost improvements have been made.
Good luck with the job. Sounds like you know what you want and what will work for you. I assume you live in the US. I don't. We have a welfare state and laws which (relatively speaking) protect people with disabilities a bit better. You should be able to work the amount you can and be helped to do so for as long as possible.
I bought the OnePlus 7 pro then realized there was no battery case. The current battery won't last. I hope zero ? will make one but not too bulky. This phone is great but the down size is it's battery size.
Newdery perhaps???????
Newdery. A brand I no almost nothing about. While searching for Oneplus 7 Pro battery case this brand popped up on amazon. I'd really love to give you the link but as a new person I cannot. Search Newdery Oneplus 7 Pro. Or just Oneplus 7 Pro battery case. You'll run into a few, but no lemon.
I came across the Newdery brand one over the weekend on ebay really cheap in new condition. Still haven't received it yet. Well I'll try and report back. If anyone still cares that is.....
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Newdery. A brand I no almost nothing about. While searching for Oneplus 7 Pro battery case this brand popped up on amazon. I'd really love to give you the link but as a new person I cannot. Search Newdery Oneplus 7 Pro. Or just Oneplus 7 Pro battery case. You'll run into a few, but no lemon.
I came across the Newdery brand one over the weekend on ebay really cheap in new condition. Still haven't received it yet. Well I'll try and report back. If anyone still cares that is.....
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There actually is a shimmer of hope. That hope comes in the form of the Oneplus 7T Pro. That and the 7 Pro have the exact same body style and fit like a glove. Maybe all this added attention might bring about a style battery case that will fit them both.
One thing to note is the (IR) laser autofocus rangefinder on the 7T is on the left of the lenses, on the rear of the phone. So you won't have any problem getting a 7T case fitting the 7 Pro. But if you have a 7T you can't use a 7 Pro case properly. Unless your willing to cut a whole I suppose.
So Ive just discovered that with the most recent update to my 8 Pro, OnePlus has completely disabled "warp"/"dash" charging on 3rd party charging cables. How do I know? Ive been using one since I got the phone, and have a brand new backup 3rd party cable as well to confirm my findings.
The reason I have a 3rd party cable is the distance from my night stand to my nearest outlet. The standard cable just isn't long enough. So when I got the phone I did some research and found that the cables I purchased were one of the few aftermarket cables available that actually supported dash charging. And they worked just fine. I could charge from 20 to 80 percent in about 25-30 mins, and the lightning symbol appeared, using these aftermarket cables. Now all of a sudden, after about 6 months with the phone, I cannot.
I thought the first cable may have gotten a short, so I went and grabbed my brand new backup, still in the original packaging, and plugged it in. Nope, only a sloe trickle charge. Then I started thinking "Oh no, did my power brick break??? So I went to the closet and snagged the original OnePlus Cable that came with the phone. Wala, warp charge reactivates.
It just seems absolutely rediculous to me that now I have to somehow try to find a genuine OnePlus cable that is at least 10 feet long and it will cost me a rediculous amount of money. Way to play the Apple game, OnePlus. Im pretty sure this will be the last OnePlus I ever purchase, if this is the behavior I am to expect from this company. Is is absolutely NOT OK to use tactics like this to advance sales if you ask me. Plus the price of OnePlus devices is less of a "Flagship Killer" and more of just a regular flagship anymore. As someone who started out with the OnePlus 2 and has watched this company grow, I would say that disappointed is the understatement of the year as to how I feel about the company these days. The fact that they locked out dash charge with a software lock is the final straw for me. Goodbye OnePlus ?.
I think there's actual reasoning why the cable is quite short, I'd have thought it a power issue, also substantially thicker.
Also their charger will be rated and tested to work with the phone, would you approve of someone using a third party component in your product? Of course not.
if you use a 3rd party charger/ cable and it develops a fault? First thing you're going to do is go back to OnePlus, chances are most end users would withhold the fact that they used a 3rd party charger / cable at all.
Not only that but what kind of a business would allow their party piece to be used with a cheaper and untested alternative?
I don't completely agree with it but I totally understand it.
From an ethical point of view and practical.
Are you charging your phone overnight? You stated night stand? If you are then you're going to cause a problem with your phone sooner rather than later anyway, couple that with a third party charger and your multiplying the possibility of failure and or unwanted issues.
Tbh by limiting the power your phone's taking they may actually be inadvertently prolonging the life of your battery..
Up to you if you carry on buying OnePlus, I think for the price (which is higher) you will have a very very hard time to find something similar, I'd put the 8 pro up against any phone in nearly any department, to stop using them because they're protecting their product? Lol come on, swallow that 3rd party pride.
Don't charge overnight, use the proper charger, be happier for longer :
I think it's not the cable
There is a bug in Android 11 all versions, beta and not
But it does not impact all users
I was in contact with the support and delivered some log details etc and they confirm me it's a bug and they will fix it with a software update
Basically it's Only charging with max 18 Watt then
As it does not impact all phones (no clue why) most of the people are still fine
That's odd, I'm currently using a 3rd Party 6ft cable and I can warp charge on Android 11. I currently use this one.
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I think there's actual reasoning why the cable is quite short, I'd have thought it a power issue, also substantially thicker.
Also their charger will be rated and tested to work with the phone, would you approve of someone using a third party component in your product? Of course not.
if you use a 3rd party charger/ cable and it develops a fault? First thing you're going to do is go back to OnePlus, chances are most end users would withhold the fact that they used a 3rd party charger / cable at all.
Not only that but what kind of a business would allow their party piece to be used with a cheaper and untested alternative?
I don't completely agree with it but I totally understand it.
From an ethical point of view and practical.
Are you charging your phone overnight? You stated night stand? If you are then you're going to cause a problem with your phone sooner rather than later anyway, couple that with a third party charger and your multiplying the possibility of failure and or unwanted issues.
Tbh by limiting the power your phone's taking they may actually be inadvertently prolonging the life of your battery..
Up to you if you carry on buying OnePlus, I think for the price (which is higher) you will have a very very hard time to find something similar, I'd put the 8 pro up against any phone in nearly any department, to stop using them because they're protecting their product? Lol come on, swallow that 3rd party pride.
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I think it's not the cable
There is a bug in Android 11 all versions, beta and not
But it does not impact all users
I was in contact with the support and delivered some log details etc and they confirm me it's a bug and they will fix it with a software update
Basically it's Only charging with max 18 Watt then
As it does not impact all phones (no clue why) most of the people are still fine
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So it turns out that they have disabled charging completely on 3rd party. I just came back to the phone after 4 hours on the 3rd party cable and the power level hadn't moved. Started at 24%, ended at 24%. So the 3rd party cable now only allows enough power to keep the phone in its current state, awesome.
And no, it makes no sense whatsoever that OnePlus would do this. This cable isn't under rated at all on power, in fact its an exact copy of the official OnePlus cable, red cable with white tips and all. All they did was reverse-engineer an original cable, and lengthen it. Its that simple. You can even tell looking into the plug ends that its an exact duplicate.
Theres nothing wrong with using this cable, its never even gotten warm when warp charging, it handles the power just as well as the original, same thickness and all. And the best part? The 2 pack of 12ft cables was just $14.99. Now thats a reasonable price for cables.
I even tried on my OnePlus Warp Car charger. Yep, 3rd party cable disables the warp charge there as well. The only way to charge with the 3rd party is to turn the phone off completely, in which case its a very slow trickle charge, taking literally 3 hours to charge up.
Welp, thats all the tests done. Guess Im just gonna go get my self an extension cord. Seems theres no other option now, the longest cord OnePlus sells is 150cm, or 6ft. Thats not good enough. Looks like Im resorting to getting the brick up and onto my night stand. To think I just warped charged on these 12ft cables literally 2 days ago Wed, Nov 11 was the last time it worked. Now even the brand new, never used cable didn't work.
Anyways, you guys are entitled to your own opinions but I really think this is a super shady move by OnePlus and I could never approve of it. Apples locked down ecosystem is exactly why Ive always hated Apple products and I could never own one, phone or otherwise. I like being able to modify my device and so Android is the obvious choice. And since the Android OS is Open Source, I think l should be able to use any cable rated for 30+ watts.
Its simple logic, and I am pretty sick of watching OnePlus SkyRocket in price anyways. There are better options these days and in a few years, when it is time, I can certainly say that I will be looking at other brands first.
12 foot cables? How far away is your bed side cabinet?
How long are your arms? Are you Dhalsim?
Jokes aside, I think 12 foot for 30watts is maybe pushing it a little. Do you happen to have a shorter cable? 6 foot maybe? Can't help but think that the length has something to do with it.
As a previous user just said, they noticed a bug and this will be fixed with an update, possible that they're looking into it.
Not sure buddy, time will tell or it won't.
It does sound like you just want to vent a bit.
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That's odd, I'm currently using a 3rd Party 6ft cable and I can warp charge on Android 11. I currently use this one.
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Length I think may be the decisive factor.
Longest cable I've ever seen officially provided with a device is the Kindle which I think may be 12 foot, but the wattage, amperage and voltage required is extremely low hence why it's ok to use.
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12 foot cables? How far away is your bed side cabinet?
How long are your arms? Are you Dhalsim?
Jokes aside, I think 12 foot for 30watts is maybe pushing it a little. Do you happen to have a shorter cable? 6 foot maybe? Can't help but think that the length has something to do with it.
As a previous user just said, they noticed a bug and this will be fixed with an update, possible that they're looking into it.
Not sure buddy, time will tell or it won't.
It does sound like you just want to vent a bit.
Length I think may be the decisive factor.
Longest cable I've ever seen officially provided with a device is the Kindle which I think may be 12 foot, but the wattage, amperage and voltage required is extremely low hence why it's ok to use.
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Honestly, its not about venting, Ive never seen this happen on any other android device nor have I ever even heard of it happening. Remember, length has nothing to do with it considering the FACT that I had warp charge using these 12 foot cables for 6 months up until literally Wednesday this week. I purchased the cables as soon as I purchased the phone, knowing my night stand is roughly 10 feet from the nearest outlet. Its just sad to see OnePlus use such a tactic when they were once the leading "Flagship Killer" manufacturer whos founding ideas literally opposed a situation in which you were forced to purchase from within a locked ecosystem and spend more money. They have literally become Apple, and its disgusting and goes against my morals as someone who believes that large companies already bleed us way too much. It literally goes against everything OnePlus as a company is even supposed to stand for. "Never Settle"? Yeah, right, that saying means NOTHING these days, and that's a cold, hard FACT.
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Honestly, its not about venting, Ive never seen this happen on any other android device nor have I ever even heard of it happening. Remember, length has nothing to do with it considering the FACT that I had warp charge using these 12 foot cables for 6 months up until literally Wednesday this week. I purchased the cables as soon as I purchased the phone, knowing my night stand is roughly 10 feet from the nearest outlet. Its just sad to see OnePlus use such a tactic when they were once the leading "Flagship Killer" manufacturer whos founding ideas literally opposed a situation in which you were forced to purchase from within a locked ecosystem and spend more money. They have literally become Apple, and its disgusting and goes against my morals as someone who believes that large companies already bleed us way too much. It literally goes against everything OnePlus as a company is even supposed to stand for. "Never Settle"? Yeah, right, that saying means NOTHING these days, and that's a cold, hard FACT.
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Do you think that it may have to do with the fact that warp is new too, it wasn't on any other device prior to the 8 pro?
I dunno, if it's solely down to money then I agree with you, but can see why they did it (business practice)
But if be interested to see if there's a science behind it and it's there's a safety aspect involved, if thats the case then they could have done you a favour.
It'd be good to get some concise clarity.
Wouldn't go as far to call OnePlus apple mate, Huawei and Samsung sure but definitely not OnePlus.
The don't really mind you unlocking your bootloader, Samsung has an efuse chip that breaks when you modify the device with Odin (Dev software)
Huawei have completely blocked bootloader unlocking.
OnePlus until recently actually had twrp on their website?
If you unlock your bootloader you can still send it back for warranty, that's pretty opposite to Apple.
Safety (if this is why they reduced power to 3rd party cables) is mandatory to any company, saying "screw it so what if they catch fire, our customer saved some money" isn't in line with any company.
I think you're jumping the gun there.
Let's see what transpires first, seeing as another user is using a third party 6 foot cable there is no evidence that they have done that.
Your 12 foot cables may not meet their standards, after all did OnePlus release a 12 foot cable?
Not from what I can tell.
Tbh mate they have no moral obligation to support 12 foot cables.
Not bashing you btw, just giving you an objective opinion.
I can see your point but without clarity we can't see why that decision was made, coupled with the fact that they don't support that length I can't see how we can without a clear and concise response from OnePlus.
My money is on the length and potential risk.
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Not from what I can tell.
Tbh mate they have no moral obligation to support 12 foot cables.
Not bashing you btw, just giving you an objective opinion.
I can see your point but without clarity we can't see why that decision was made, coupled with the fact that they don't support that length I can't see how we can without a clear and concise response from OnePlus.
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Well you do have a decent point here, OnePlus is definitely not as bad as a couple others, YET. However, I strongly doubt it was disabled for safety reasons. As I said, the cables have worked for the past 6 months on warp charge and theyve NEVER gotten even warm, always cool to the touch. Heat is always the first indication that something is being fed too much power, believe me. I build PCs and hobby-grade RC cars. I know the limits of current and wattage. 30 watts is nothing. Im used to pushing 2000 watts through short lengths of 10AWG wire. Even my LiPo charger dishes out 200W of charge power per channel and thats not even a super high amount these days, there are chargers capable of 1000 watts out there.
RC cars are a sure-fire way to push electronics to their very limit. Little machines that can out-run real full sized cars is nothing to sneeze at. But anyways, the parts that ever got warm durching warp charge were always the phone (slightly unless being used simultaneously), and the power brick (not bad but warmer than the phone on standby receiving warp charge). Both of these are completely expected and normal behaviors and have been for years now.
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Well you do have a decent point here, OnePlus is definitely not as bad as a couple others, YET. However, I strongly doubt it was disabled for safety reasons. As I said, the cables have worked for the past 6 months on warp charge and theyve NEVER gotten even warm, always cool to the touch. Heat is always the first indication that something is being fed too much power, believe me. I build PCs and hobby-grade RC cars. I know the limits of current and wattage. 30 watts is nothing. Im used to pushing 2000 watts through short lengths of 10AWG wire. Even my LiPo charger dishes out 200W of charge power per channel and thats not even a super high amount these days, there are chargers capable of 1000 watts out there.
RC cars are a sure-fire way to push electronics to their very limit. Little machines that can out-run real full sized cars is nothing to sneeze at. But anyways, the parts that ever got warm durching warp charge were always the phone (slightly unless being used simultaneously), and the power brick (not bad but warmer than the phone on standby receiving warp charge). Both of these are completely expected and normal behaviors and have been for years now.
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Aye I've been building PC's for decades myself, bit of a tinkerer, guess a lot of people are on XDA.
I've got a friend who does the RC racing cars, they're crazy fast, all Carbon parts, costs a small fortune too, interesting hobby, got my eye on the racing drones myself.
With the cable, bottom line from me is I don't know, I wish I understood the science more. Just seems long lol, plus it's a trick missed on their part for not releasing it themselves, I can't help but think maybe there's a reason for it? If not then pfft I have no idea, if they release a new 12 foot cable soon then we have our answer.
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Aye I've been building PC's for decades myself, bit of a tinkerer, guess a lot of people are on XDA.
I've got a friend who does the RC racing cars, they're crazy fast, all Carbon parts, costs a small fortune too, interesting hobby, got my eye on the racing drones myself.
With the cable, bottom line from me is I don't know, I wish I understood the science more. Just seems long lol, plus it's a trick missed on their part for not releasing it themselves, I can't help but think maybe there's a reason for it? If not then pfft I have no idea, if they release a new 12 foot cable soon then we have our answer.
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Ya, OnePlus releasing a 10 or 12-foot cable would just make me face palm like nobody's business ? lol.
Ya RC is fun as hell, probably the most fun an adult could ever have with a hobby. The community is amazing too, I race and bash with dozens of enthusiasts regularly just in my local area alone, we do everything from Monster Trucks to Rock Crawlers to Drift Cars to pro Racing Buggies. Just be sure to do your research. The Lithium batts aren't the same as the ones in our phones. They are incredibly power-dense and literally explode like a thermite grenade if mistreated. Luckily drone batteries are nowhere near the size of car and truck batts. My 6S LiPo is 6500mAH and 6S2P (Series-Parallel) configuration so thats 12 cells total. Its an incredibly violent and huge battery measuring 139(L)x48(W)x67mm(H) and weighs 900 grams. Its capable of burning right through 1in thick hardened alloy steel of class 12.9. Its a bad day if you set one of these guys off.
Its capable of 120 Amps of continuous current at 25 Volts (3000 watts) and bursts under 3 seconds of up to 200 Amps at 25 Volts (5000 watts). Its borderline ludacris technology. And these aren't even close to the most powerful LiPos available. Just be sure to understand that thanks to marketing, LiPo "C" discharge ratings are massively over rated and are false. Mine says 75C, which is BS, so they claim 487A continuous current when theres simply no way in hell. Tests have been done over the years to prove that C ratings are useless, so keep that in mind.
One Truck I own is the 1/8 Scale Arrma Kraton EXB. Ive put more than $1500 USD into it thus far, easily capable of 100+ MPH with appropriate gearing, capable of standing backflips, and can handle drops from 20 feet like it was just another drive home from work. Its an incredible machine, and I think you would like it. My 6S 6500mAH LiPo is responsible for powering it. Take a looksy at this review of the Kraton EXB from the second largest RC YouTuber:
https://youtu.be/DlVSj-zUlTY
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Ya, OnePlus releasing a 10 or 12-foot cable would just make me face palm like nobody's business ? lol.
Ya RC is fun as hell, probably the most fun an adult could ever have with a hobby. The community is amazing too, I race and bash with dozens of enthusiasts regularly just in my local area alone, we do everything from Monster Trucks to Rock Crawlers to Drift Cars to pro Racing Buggies. Just be sure to do your research. The Lithium batts aren't the same as the ones in our phones. They are incredibly power-dense and literally explode like a thermite grenade if mistreated. Luckily drone batteries are nowhere near the size of car and truck batts. My 6S LiPo is 6500mAH and 6S2P (Series-Parallel) configuration so thats 12 cells total. Its an incredibly violent and huge battery measuring 139(L)x48(W)x67mm(H) and weighs 900 grams. Its capable of burning right through 1in thick hardened alloy steel of class 12.9. Its a bad day if you set one of these guys off.
Its capable of 120 Amps of continuous current at 25 Volts (3000 watts) and bursts under 3 seconds of up to 200 Amps at 25 Volts (5000 watts). Its borderline ludacris technology. And these aren't even close to the most powerful LiPos available. Just be sure to understand that thanks to marketing, LiPo "C" discharge ratings are massively over rated and are false. Mine says 75C, which is BS, so they claim 487A continuous current when theres simply no way in hell. Tests have been done over the years to prove that C ratings are useless, so keep that in mind.
One Truck I own is the 1/8 Scale Arrma Kraton EXB. Ive put more than $1500 USD into it thus far, easily capable of 100+ MPH with appropriate gearing, capable of standing backflips, and can handle drops from 20 feet like it was just another drive home from work. Its an incredible machine, and I think you would like it. My 6S 6500mAH LiPo is responsible for powering it. Take a looksy at this review of the Kraton EXB from the second largest RC YouTuber:
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Haha that's mad. Brings out the inner child in every bloke in the world, you should try clay pigeon, most addictive hobby there is, I was hooked the second I tried it, I didn't miss a single shot on my first day out.
[email protected] I've seen actual cars sell for less.
I'll check out the vid, cheers
Also even if we've not solved the 12 foot OnePlus back step problem, you sound more upbeat and that's a start.
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Haha that's mad. Brings out the inner child in every bloke in the world, you should try clay pigeon, most addictive hobby there is, I was hooked the second I tried it, I didn't miss a single shot on my first day out.
[email protected] I've seen actual cars sell for less.
I'll check out the vid, cheers
Also even if we've not solved the 12 foot OnePlus back step problem, you sound more upbeat and that's a start.
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Don't get me wrong OnePlus is definitely still not impressing me right now. I considered alternatives before even buying the 8 Pro considering the price but ended up going for the innovative LPDDR5 RAM + worlds first high current wireless charging, but now this is pretty much the nail in the coffin for me. Guess we will cross that road when we come to it.
But RC discussions never fail to put a smile on my face, they truly are rediculous machines. You won't regret it. ?
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Don't get me wrong OnePlus is definitely still not impressing me right now. I considered alternatives before even buying the 8 Pro considering the price but ended up going for the innovative LPDDR5 RAM + worlds first high current wireless charging, but now this is pretty much the nail in the coffin for me. Guess we will cross that road when we come to it.
But RC discussions never fail to put a smile on my face, they truly are rediculous machines. You won't regret it. ?
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Might do, have other commitments first and if I start I know I'll be hooked.
Personally I think OnePlus is going to be the one to beat for many years to come.. I'm still hoping htc makes a comeback
Sony - boring, stupid DRM, poor battery, awful development.
LG- Mental, impractical, very poor battery, no idea on development, complicated device, impossible to implement on ROMs
Samsung - efuse chip, exynos chips on EU devices, awful all round, super expensive
Pixel - expensive, awful battery, not top tier hardware
What does that leave? The Chinese ones?
Yea I'll stick with OnePlus
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Might do, have other commitments first and if I start I know I'll be hooked.
Personally I think OnePlus is going to be the one to beat for many years to come.. I'm still hoping htc makes a comeback
Sony - boring, stupid DRM, poor battery, awful development.
LG- Mental, impractical, very poor battery, no idea on development, complicated device, impossible to implement on ROMs
Samsung - efuse chip, exynos chips on EU devices, awful all round, super expensive
Pixel - expensive, awful battery, not top tier hardware
What does that leave? The Chinese ones?
Yea I'll stick with OnePlus
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There was a sony I saw a while back that actually looked really interesting. I forget what its called but it had a perfect 21:9 aspect ratio and looked kinda strange at first but as I watched reviews it became more and more appealing. But yea, the battery - not so great lol.
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There was a sony I saw a while back that actually looked really interesting. I forget what its called but it had a perfect 21:9 aspect ratio and looked kinda strange at first but as I watched reviews it became more and more appealing. But yea, the battery - not so great lol.
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Think I know the one, quite old though was £900 at the time. Didn't sell very well
There is something i like about Sony phones but so much to dislike
I also lost warp on my el-cheapo 6ft cable. Then again, that thing is so thin I doubt I even want it to run warp lol.
There's only one real competitor I see for the OP8 / Pro. The ROG Phone 3 / Strix. Similar price, amazing hardware and cooling, great battery, I don't really see a downside to it lol.
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how dare oneplus force me to use their cable, which came included with the phone, for warp charging, a feature that's exclusive to oneplus chargers....:crying: they're just like apple!
lol if you cry any harder i might think you're stormviper
I have an 8 foot red cable (don't recall if I got it from 1+) but I can fast charge. I originally had one of those interchangeable USB and tips but all it would do was maintain the current charge. Those interchangeable tips are very convenient when you have a house full of type c, micro USB, and Apple products. I don't know why they would invoke such a procedure as preventing use of alternate charging devices, but it is one of the things I have come to dislike about OnePlus. I don't know if I'd feel comfortable buying another one of their phones, even though in other ways they are superior. I do not like Samsung at all and I'm disappointed that the Pixel phones aren't keeping up.