Hi there,
Unfortunately, I flashed my i9192 with 4.4.2 (official build) and now I got knox bootloader...
I know that it is almost impossible to remove it, but I would like to know what are the consequences of it...
I mean, can I root my phone as usual? Can I live with knox?
Regards.
You will trip knox and loose warranty other than that the same routine. Root , disable or delete knox.Read Here
s0cks said:
Hi there,
Unfortunately, I flashed my i9192 with 4.4.2 (official build) and now I got knox bootloader...
I know that it is almost impossible to remove it, but I would like to know what are the consequences of it...
I mean, can I root my phone as usual? Can I live with knox?
Regards.
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It is impossible to remove the knox bootloader and flash a non-knox bootloader.
It depends on you: do you care about warranty? If yes than use Towelroot because this wont trip knox (not complete 100% safe but most of the users reported it). I dont know if knox trips when you remove system apps/system files. You can live with knox. In my opinion the firmware is not bloated very much but ,again, it's your decision.
If you dont care about warranty you can use the good old way and flash recovery and flash a rootkit.
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Nowadays in the Netherlands you can only buy the I9195LTE with the XXUBMJ7 firmware, so with Knox.
Is there a bypass / possibility to root and get CWM without getting a problem with Knox?
I ask because I want to flash custom roms and like to use Titanium Backup.
Hope that someone knows a solution.
I'm also new with S4 mini, same firmware as yours. Preparing for root with this metod. Hope it should works. If i'm not wrong?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2364980
gogsy1975 said:
I'm also new with S4 mini, same firmware as yours. Preparing for root with this metod. Hope it should works. If i'm not wrong?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2364980
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Yeah.
I saw that thread too.
But I think it will void your warranty (not the biggest problem for me).
And I think it makes adjustments irreversible (correct me if I'm wrong) and that's not what I want.
It works - same firmware - without problems.
fredalf said:
It works - same firmware - without problems.
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And what ist your KNOX status after rooting with this method? After rooting and installing cwm, does flashing cm aswell set KNOX to 0x1?
ZockyMcZock said:
And what ist your KNOX status after rooting with this method? After rooting and installing cwm, does flashing cm aswell set KNOX to 0x1?
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KNOX: 0x1
who cares?
fredalf said:
KNOX: 0x1
who cares?
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people who have a company phone? :victory:
Use kingo
fburgos said:
Use kingo
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it also would void your warranty or at least knox 0x1 on bmj7
Well that's bad news... I though kingo didnt trigger knox
fredalf said:
KNOX: 0x1
who cares?
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Anyone who needs Sammy to replace a piece of faulty hardware.
I would also like an answer on this.
I don't much care for installing CWM/TWRP or custom roms (for now). All I want is to root my wife's i9195 without tripping knox or bricking the phone. The main purpose would be to use apps that require root (TB, SD Maid, etc), get rid of bloatware and make it a bit more battery friendly.
OGroteKoning said:
I would also like an answer on this.
I don't much care for installing CWM/TWRP or custom roms (for now). All I want is to root my wife's i9195 without tripping knox or bricking the phone. The main purpose would be to use apps that require root (TB, SD Maid, etc), get rid of bloatware and make it a bit more battery friendly.
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Check your firmware version (settings -> about phone).
If it's MJ7 or higher, rooting and flashing will trip your knox counter. It's irreversible, and there's no way to prevent it (yet).
If you have old firmware you can root your phone without upping the counter (unless Samsung has hidden something that nobody found out yet).
So if you have older firmware, don't update it.
The method on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2364980 won't brick your phone.
If you live within the EU you warranty isn't voided by the Knox flag.
There was some thread floating around with proper links and documentation.
rogier666 said:
Anyone who needs Sammy to replace a piece of faulty hardware.
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-mhl wont work if knox is 0x1
-downgrading is not possible "will give u error"
Safe root but it is for GT-I9190
rrgrrg said:
-mhl wont work if knox is 0x1
-downgrading is not possible "will give u error"
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Is mhl working on mini? In wich firmware?
Wrong post, moderator please go ahead and delete this.
fburgos said:
Is mhl working on mini? In wich firmware?
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sorry mate mhl isnt there in the first place didnt know that when i posted
rogier666 said:
If it's MJ7 or higher, rooting and flashing will trip your knox counter. It's irreversible, and there's no way to prevent it (yet).
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And what about this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645471 ?
They claim it works.
hello i have a question ive boughed a galaxy note 8 a last week and stuped me updated to 4.4.2 and im not new to samsung device i had one my self and rooted not even(for my friends) one but never had such situasion but i still got warranty and i dont want to lose it i know there is knox on my device now and if i root with vroot my system status will change to custom and will not touch knox so my question is when ill root and use triangle away and send my note to samsung after theyll format it will the system status stay official or go back to custom?
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hello i have a question ive boughed a galaxy note 8 a last week and stuped me updated to 4.4.2 and im not new to samsung device i had one my self and rooted not even(for my friends) one but never had such situasion but i still got warranty and i dont want to lose it i know there is knox on my device now and if i root with vroot my system status will change to custom and will not touch knox so my question is when ill root and use triangle away and send my note to samsung after theyll format it will the system status stay official or go back to custom?
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TriangleAway still works with the KitKat KNOX enabled bootloader but the counter it resets is not the KNOX warranty flag. If you've flashed any unsigned (by Samsung) image to your tablet, including custom recoveries, kernels and/or ROM's, or rooted with CF Auto Root (which flashes a custom recovery) since upgrading to KitKat 4.4.2, your KNOX flag has been triggered and your warranty is already voided.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
TriangleAway still works with the KitKat KNOX enabled bootloader but the counter it resets is not the KNOX warranty flag. If you've flashed any unsigned (by Samsung) image to your tablet, including custom recoveries, kernels and/or ROM's, or rooted with CF Auto Root (which flashes a custom recovery) since upgrading to KitKat 4.4.2, your KNOX flag has been triggered and your warranty is already voided.
ramjet73
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No you dont get my question im aware of knox and I dont want to touch it but I head that rooting changes the system status to custom in download modeand in system it changes to modified and if samsung see tht than the warranty if void so once again my question is when I root with vroot or with kingo root they both dont touch knox and than use triangle away and SET system status back to official or normal and after formating will the official or normal status stay of will it be turned back to custom/modified
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No you dont get my question im aware of knox and I dont want to touch it but I head that rooting changes the system status to custom in download modeand in system it changes to modified and if samsung see tht than the warranty if void so once again my question is when I root with vroot or with kingo root they both dont touch knox and than use triangle away and SET system status back to official or normal and after formating will the official or normal status stay of will it be turned back to custom/modified
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I haven't used either of those rooting methods so I can't answer that. According to the Kingo website the chances of tripping the KNOX flag are 1 in 1000, but they don't mention the flash counter. OTOH, Samsung claims that KNOX can be tripped with as little as a custom kernel initialization script:
For example, some KNOX security mechanisms, such as SE for Android, will trigger an e-fuse if the system is booted with an arbitrary kernel, kernel initialization script or data, and therefore be disabled and no longer function correctly.
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I know you said that you're not asking about the KNOX implications but maybe you should. Regarding resetting the flash counter and custom configuration with TriangleAway, I suggest posting your scenario in that thread and hope for a response from Chainfire, the developer of that app. If you can root with one of those methods without tripping Knox, my experience is that after using Odin to flash the stock ROM and running TriangleAway when I was using the 4.2 ROM and bootloader there was no indication on the bootloader screen or using the stock ROM that "tampering" was detected, but things might have changed with the 4.4 bootloader.
Good luck, and please let us know how it turns out.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
I haven't used either of those rooting methods so I can't answer that. According to the Kingo website the chances of tripping the KNOX flag are 1 in 1000, but they don't mention the flash counter. OTOH, Samsung claims that KNOX can be tripped with as little as a custom kernel initialization script:
I know you said that you're not asking about the KNOX implications but maybe you should. Regarding resetting the flash counter and custom configuration with TriangleAway, I suggest posting your scenario in that thread and hope for a response from Chainfire, the developer of that app. If you can root with one of those methods without tripping Knox, my experience is that after using Odin to flash the stock ROM and running TriangleAway when I was using the 4.2 ROM and bootloader there was no indication on the bootloader screen or using the stock ROM that "tampering" was detected, but things might have changed with the 4.4 bootloader.
Good luck, and please let us know how it turns out.
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Well non of those methods worked I had to root via odin so bye bye warranty
Sooo, I'm not entirely new to XDA, I know I should search for things and I have been, if you know a thread that may help, please post and point me in the right direction, thanks.
I just learned about KNOX (Haven't paid samsung much attention in the past year) and wanted to know; is there any way I can root, and install a custom rom/recovery without tripping KNOX?
Or is there a way for me to still use T-Mobile's insurance with a KNOX count of 0x1? I want to move to Android L as soon as it's fully released (or a little after for bugs to move away). Thanks.
devilsmarch said:
Sooo, I'm not entirely new to XDA, I know I should search for things and I have been, if you know a thread that may help, please post and point me in the right direction, thanks.
I just learned about KNOX (Haven't paid samsung much attention in the past year) and wanted to know; is there any way I can root, and install a custom rom/recovery without tripping KNOX?
Or is there a way for me to still use T-Mobile's insurance with a KNOX count of 0x1? I want to move to Android L as soon as it's fully released (or a little after for bugs to move away). Thanks.
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If you want to flash a custom ROM, there is no need to root at all. If you already have a KNOX bootloader (MK2, NB4, and NH7) flashing custom ROMs WILL trip the KNOX counter. No way to get around it. I think you can root MK2 and NB4 without tripping KNOX, but I'm not sure about NH7. Look up towelroot. If you decide the KNOX counter doesn't really matter, CF-Auto Root works for all versions flawlessly.
If, by some strange chance, you are still on the 4.2.2 (MDL or MDB) bootloader, you can pretty much do whatever you want because KNOX wasn't yet implemented on those bootloaders; Triangle Away is all you'd need to return the device to 100% official status. That app only resets the flash counter; it does nothing to the KNOX warranty flag. That can't be reset.
As far as using insurance with an 0x1 counter... chances are it will go through. The reports are mixed; some people haven't had a problem while others have gotten busted.
Is there any way to root the tab s 10.5 without tripping this bootloader flag? I want to root but want to be able to return the tablet (and use the warranty) if needed. Is there any root methods that dont require odin that perhaps attack a vunerable app?
How obvious is it when the bootloader is tripped? Does it show something on boot up?
mike240se said:
Is there any way to root the tab s 10.5 without tripping this bootloader flag? I want to root but want to be able to return the tablet (and use the warranty) if needed. Is there any root methods that dont require odin that perhaps attack a vunerable app?
How obvious is it when the bootloader is tripped? Does it show something on boot up?
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If you root you will trigger knox there is no way to stop it at least from my research.
Does Triangle Away work on this device?
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Does Triangle Away work on this device?
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Nope since when knox is tripped, it will trip a fuse telling that you trip knox. Theres no way to untrip knox as of now.
... will Knox features work again? Such as secure folders?
I honestly don't care much about these features. I much prefer having access to Ad-Away. But if I do use Odin to flash a stock ROM (Without re-rooting) on the phone, even though my Knox flag is still tripped will Knox features work again?
Thanks
azzicles said:
... will Knox features work again? Such as secure folders?
I honestly don't care much about these features. I much prefer having access to Ad-Away. But if I do use Odin to flash a stock ROM (Without re-rooting) on the phone, even though my Knox flag is still tripped will Knox features work again?
Thanks
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Once Knox is tripped it will always be tripped, you can no longer access the Knox features and I also believe that the Android/Samsung Pay system will no longer work
trickie69r said:
Once Knox is tripped it will always be tripped, you can no longer access the Knox features and I also believe that the Android/Samsung Pay system will no longer work
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I am ignorant when it comes to rooting etc... so, just reiterating. If I root my phone, it will trip the knox? And Ill never be able to go back to full stock... Is that where you're saying? :/
androidcentralsucks said:
I am ignorant when it comes to rooting etc... so, just reiterating. If I root my phone, it will trip the knox? And Ill never be able to go back to full stock... Is that where you're saying? :/
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You can go back to full stock but rooting will trip Knox and this cannot be undone which will prevent Knox related features from working (i.e Samsung Pay etc..).
You also run the risk of not getting Warranty support if Knox is tripped.
Hope that helps.
trickie69r said:
You can go back to full stock but rooting will trip Knox and this cannot be undone which will prevent Knox related features from working (i.e Samsung Pay etc..).
You also run the risk of not getting Warranty support if Knox is tripped.
Hope that helps.
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It does!! I had no idea there was no way to go back 100%... =/ That SUCKS!
well, it is for security reasons, only a really small number of people root their phones, small compared to the total number of devices out there.....
winol said:
well, it is for security reasons, only a really small number of people root their phones, small compared to the total number of devices out there.....
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Right.. I am seeing that... I do a lot of penetration testing etc, and some of the software I want to use requires root. I have this stuff on my laptop and other devices, but would like to have the option to utilize it on my phone as well.
Just stinks you can't reset it back..