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SOUND QUALITY (when compared with devices equipped with the Wolfson DAC )

Just curiuous about the sound quality of the Oppo find 7 compared with those devices carrying the Wolfson DAC .
Regardin headset output
Anyone?

I don't know about headphones but all i know is this phone has the loudest and clearest speakers i have ever seen on a smartphone. I have owned all of the galaxy models, droid dna, xperia z2, optimus g pro, nexus 4, huawei mate; to name a few. Besides the HTC Boom sound i don't think many others come close. Most of the time it is literally too loud for general use at full volume.

Thanks
But I am really interested on the headset sound quality.
No external speaker can match my JBL portable ( for phones) ..
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Actually, it would be interesting to know what is the it's the impact (if any)of the cooperation between Waves and Wolfson ( http://www.analog-eetimes.com/en/mo...-technologies.html?cmp_id=7&news_id=222905459 ) on the find 7, since the Snapdragon processor got its own DAC...

betoNL said:
Just curiuous about the sound quality of the Oppo find 7 compared with those devices carrying the Wolfson DAC .
Regardin headset output
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This is my second device with Snapdragon DAC(first was a Xiaomi Mi-2) and both has a very good sound output with well balance equalizer and 0 distortion. MaxxAudio and DiracHD(in ColorOS) it's DSP and as well they put they signature efects and equalizer, this things I don't like. Comparing to Wolfson DAC in my Galaxy devices ,my iPhone 1st gen and my iPod I can't complain about quality and power output, of course they have diferent signatures of sound but every DAC and headphone has too.

dextructor said:
This is my second device with Snapdragon DAC(first was a Xiaomi Mi-2) and both has a very good sound output with well balance equalizer and 0 distortion. MaxxAudio and DiracHD(in ColorOS) it's DSP and as well they put they signature efects and equalizer, this things I don't like. Comparing to Wolfson DAC in my Galaxy devices ,my iPhone 1st gen and my iPod I can't complain about quality and power output, of course they have diferent signatures of sound but every DAC and headphone has too.
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I am also not that impressed with this "award winning" maxxaudio thing and I wonder if it's any better than Viper4Android as a DSP manager.
I guess I just have to take my headsets to a showroom and run some tests on another device carrying probably the same Qualcomm built-in DAC such as the HTC 1 M8.
However it could be that the HTC got another amp implementation ......
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betoNL said:
I am also not that impressed with this "award winning" maxxaudio thing and I wonder if it's any better than Viper4Android as a DSP manager.
I guess I just have to take my headsets to a showroom and run some tests on another device carrying probably the same Qualcomm built-in DAC such as the HTC 1 M8.
However it could be that the HTC got another amp implementation .......
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As a DSP manager MaxxAudio has a good performance and serve for his purpose that is general public and even Viper has a profile that's similar to it. Equalizers and DSP are fairly wrong because they aren't correct anything but adding something that they don't need used and makes even a great DAC like Wolfson sounds bad.

I'll be able to give you subjective views soon enough
I own the SGS3 (with Boeffla sound) and have the Oppo Find 7 coming to me within a week.
I own the Modded D2Ks (essentailly D5Ks) and Audeo Phonak PFE232s

@TotallydubbedHD
Thank you very much..
I will be looking forward your findings
Cheers

betoNL said:
@TotallydubbedHD
Thank you very much..
I will be looking forward your findings
Cheers
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no worries

betoNL said:
@TotallydubbedHD
Thank you very much..
I will be looking forward your findings
Cheers
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Hey there!
Here's my impressions - I just got the phone today and have been playing around with it.
It's almost 3am here and I've got work tomorrow at 9 lol!
Sound impressions: extremely positive, it sounds great!
If I had to compare, I would say (and this is being EXTREMELY analytical of the sound, A/Bing and trying to listen out to certain parts of songs - difference isn't that obvious):
-S3 has a more meatier sound, little more bass emphasis
-S3 and Find 7 have the same output volume (or very close to it)
-Oppo Find 7 is more mid centric
-S3's soundstage is slightly wider/deeper
-Highs seem very similar
Notes:
-Tests conducted un-amped with my heavily modded D2Ks
-This was tested with the S3 using DeltaROM that has Boeflla kernel, but I made sure to disable Boeffla sound in the configurator, before stating the above results. (With Boeflla enabled, the S3 wins in every way, hands down)
-Oppo Find 7 is running stock ROM Colour OS 1.2.6i.
-Both are running Poweramp (unlocked) with flat EQs
-Both phones are on Android 4.3
End of the day, there's an extremely slight difference between the two. It isn't something like the S2's (yes numero dos) horrible chipset (as far as I'm, aware subjectively speaking), but nor is it better sounding than the S3 nor the beast the S1.
It lies between the S2 and S3's sound. Great but not as good I guess.
I listen to music a heck of a lot on my phone and I think I'll cope with with this initial listen - in other words, it's not something that will make me put it down, it's something I'll stick to and happily listen to
On a separate note: the Oppo Find 7 is an amazing phone, blistering fast, charging was ridiculously good, the camera is decent (especially the front facing one) and the Colour OS skin is the best Android skin I've ever come across (ie HTC's Sense and Samsung's TW).
However, I'm a little disappointed by its overall brightness levels , lack of pull-down notification customisation and little washed out colours.
other than those three points (which can all potentially be sorted out via a custom rom), the phone is so far flawless

TotallydubbedHD said:
Hey there!
Here's my impressions - I just got the phone today and have been playing around with it.
It's almost 3am here and I've got work tomorrow at 9 lol!
Sound impressions: extremely positive, it sounds great!
If I had to compare, I would say (and this is being EXTREMELY analytical of the sound, A/Bing and trying to listen out to certain parts of songs - difference isn't that obvious):
-S3 has a more meatier sound, little more bass emphasis
-S3 and Find 7 have the same output volume (or very close to it)
-Oppo Find 7 is more mid centric
-S3's soundstage is slightly wider/deeper
-Highs seem very similar
Notes:
-Tests conducted un-amped with my heavily modded D2Ks
-This was tested with the S3 using DeltaROM that has Boeflla kernel, but I made sure to disable Boeffla sound in the configurator, before stating the above results. (With Boeflla enabled, the S3 wins in every way, hands down)
-Oppo Find 7 is running stock ROM Colour OS 1.2.6i.
-Both are running Poweramp (unlocked) with flat EQs
-Both phones are on Android 4.3
End of the day, there's an extremely slight difference between the two. It isn't something like the S2's (yes numero dos) horrible chipset (as far as I'm, aware subjectively speaking), but nor is it better sounding than the S3 nor the beast the S1.
It lies between the S2 and S3's sound. Great but not as good I guess.
I listen to music a heck of a lot on my phone and I think I'll cope with with this initial listen - in other words, it's not something that will make me put it down, it's something I'll stick to and happily listen to
On a separate note: the Oppo Find 7 is an amazing phone, blistering fast, charging was ridiculously good, the camera is decent (especially the front facing one) and the Colour OS skin is the best Android skin I've ever come across (ie HTC's Sense and Samsung's TW). the Find 7
However, I'm a little disappointed by its overall brightness levels , lack of pull-down notification customisation and little washed out colours.
other than those three points (which can all potentially be sorted out via a custom rom), the phone is so far flawless
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Thank you again...
I will give the chinese a go ....just ordered the find 7 ...
I am keeping my GNote 2 ( with Wolfson / Voodoo) just in case..
Will post here my findings too ...
Cheers

betoNL said:
Thank you again...
I will give the chinese a go ....just ordered the find 7 ...
I am keeping my GNote 2 ( with Wolfson / Voodoo) just in case..
Will post here my findings too ...
Cheers
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Cool beans!
Please let me know how your screen looks - I've been worried about mine being faulty:
http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/f...on-screen-brightness-issue.19138/#post-275288

TotallydubbedHD said:
Cool beans!
Please let me know how your screen looks - I've been worried about mine being faulty:
http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/f...on-screen-brightness-issue.19138/#post-275288
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No problem.
I am new at the Find 7 forums ( here and there) and I didint even get my Find 7 yet, but if I were you I would not compare the screen with a sAmoled device...and... just flash a CM or AOSP rom to check if the issue is softwarewise
If it's not the hardware, I guess a firmware upgrade will do ( if you want to stick with stock)

betoNL said:
No problem.
I am new at the Find 7 forums ( here and there) and I didint even get my Find 7 yet, but if I were you I would not compare the screen with a sAmoled device...and... just flash a CM or AOSP rom to check if the issue is softwarewise
If it's not the hardware, I guess a firmware upgrade will do ( if you want to stick with stock)
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indeed - I'll be flashing nameless tonight

TotallydubbedHD said:
indeed - I'll be flashing nameless tonight
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Dont forget to report back
Since it's a bit off-topic ( no big deal ) you could start a dedicated thread here at the XDA
My Find 7 is probably arriving tomorrow...
I hope it's from a new batch, even if it's coming from England and not China ....:fingers-crossed:

betoNL said:
Dont forget to report back
Since it's a bit off-topic ( no big deal ) you could start a dedicated thread here at the XDA
My Find 7 is probably arriving tomorrow...
I hope it's from a new batch, even if it's coming from England and not China ....:fingers-crossed:
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flashed nameless - seems like the same thing in terms of brightness - I'm just wondering if it's a device/glass thing, rather than anything else....I'#ms tarting to doubt myself.
But each time I see comparisons on YouTube, the S5 and Oppo look identical in brightness
Btw: Nameless is RIDICULOUSLY fast !

Is the M8 still worth it ?

Hey,
I have been struggling for a few months trying to pick my next phone, I've been using an ancient GS2 for at least 3 years now...
I was gonna go with the 6P but the SD810 is worrying me... And the M9 has that thing as well...
The M8 looks like a good choice.. I just have a few questions :
1- How is the dev community ?
- I usually stick with phones for at least 2 years, and I always like running the latest version of Android...
2- are AOSP ROMs stable ?
Coming from an Exynos device, it had countless issues with AOSP roms,... Lot's of stuff didn't work properly on AOSP.. Is it the same case here or everything is stable enough...
3- Is there any known hardware defective that are known about the phone.. Just to be careful when purchasing
4- How is the battery ? SOT ?
And finally, do you recommend to buy it, or there's better choices out there ?
Cheers..

biascoblix said:
Hey,
I have been struggling for a few months trying to pick my next phone, I've been using an ancient GS2 for at least 3 years now...
I was gonna go with the 6P but the SD810 is worrying me... And the M9 has that thing as well...
The M8 looks like a good choice.. I just have a few questions :
1- How is the dev community ?
- I usually stick with phones for at least 2 years, and I always like running the latest version of Android...
2- are AOSP ROMs stable ?
Coming from an Exynos device, it had countless issues with AOSP roms,... Lot's of stuff didn't work properly on AOSP.. Is it the same case here or everything is stable enough...
3- Is there any known hardware defective that are known about the phone.. Just to be careful when purchasing
4- How is the battery ? SOT ?
And finally, do you recommend to buy it, or there's better choices out there ?
Cheers..
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1. Great dev community(much options), about official software updates, 2 yrs of htc's commitment is ending in March 2016.
2. Most are stable, some MM are stil WIP
3. No hardware issues(like it was on One m7 with camera)
4. Depends on kernel and rom(with doze, battery drain is like 1-3% per night) i get ussualy 5hrs of sot, with tweaks and low brighteness i can get ~7hrs of sot
If you can find some good deal, go for it, great build/sound and fast UI. Camera is meh, but with proper angle and close shots, it's good enough.

Imotep95 said:
1. Great dev community(much options), about official software updates, 2 yrs of htc's commitment is ending in March 2016.
2. Most are stable, some MM are stil WIP
3. No hardware issues(like it was on One m7 with camera)
4. Depends on kernel and rom(with doze, battery drain is like 1-3% per night) i get ussualy 5hrs of sot, with tweaks and low brighteness i can get ~7hrs of sot
If you can find some good deal, go for it, great build/sound and fast UI. Camera is meh, but with proper angle and close shots, it's good enough.
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I don't really care about official support... I hate Android OEM skins... The first thing I do when I get a new device is usually installing an AOSP based ROM...
Currently, I can get one for around 340$.. That's from a local store..
They are on eBay for 260$~
But I'm from Egypt... So there's shipping and tax and stuff which gonna ramp the price to around 340 as well...
I'll probably go ahead and buy it from the local store...
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Concerning defective units... Were there any parts that were reported defective on units before... I have people reporting not working mics...
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and is there multiple models of the phone or is it just one ?

Its still worth it and the device has a official gpe (Google play edition) rom.

biascoblix said:
I don't really care about official support... I hate Android OEM skins... The first thing I do when I get a new device is usually installing an AOSP based ROM...
Currently, I can get one for around 340$.. That's from a local store..
They are on eBay for 260$~
But I'm from Egypt... So there's shipping and tax and stuff which gonna ramp the price to around 340 as well...
I'll probably go ahead and buy it from the local store...
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Concerning defective units... Were there any parts that were reported defective on units before... I have people reporting not working mics...
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and is there multiple models of the phone or is it just one ?
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Oh, there are plenty units out there...USA carriers,DEV Edition, ASIA WWE, WWE international... try to get wwe(unlocked version), btw you can do S-OFF($25) and RUU to whatever you want.

Just a quick viewpoint from me. I hate my M8. For the first 6 months it was great, then I had the camera lens issue (which was easily rectified with metal Polish but shouldn't have been a problem in the first place). Then my vibrate motor packed in. Then it came back to life a couple of weeks later but it folded again and has been dead for the past 4 months. I get random freezes on various roms and the battery gets so hot I can't hold my phone sometimes. Maybe I got a lemon (my wife got an M8 the same time as me, also had the camera lens issue bit nothing else) but it's really hurt my confidence in HTC. I've had HTC handsets almost exclusively for the past 11 years, and given how weak I view the A9 (or X9) I will be abandoning HTC thanks to how poor the M8 has been for me.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk

Imotep95 said:
Oh, there are plenty units out there...USA carriers,DEV Edition, ASIA WWE, WWE international... try to get wwe(unlocked version), btw you can do S-OFF($25) and RUU to whatever you want.
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Yea, the one am getting is probably the unlocked international...
I'm new to HTC phones here, what exactly is S-OFF and RUU ?! ?

biascoblix said:
Yea, the one am getting is probably the unlocked international...
I'm new to HTC phones here, what exactly is S-OFF and RUU ?! ?
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S-off is like 100% unlock, you can flash firmwares, sound mods(with adsp) etc, RUU: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1656721
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk

dazultra2000 said:
Just a quick viewpoint from me. I hate my M8. For the first 6 months it was great, then I had the camera lens issue (which was easily rectified with metal Polish but shouldn't have been a problem in the first place). Then my vibrate motor packed in. Then it came back to life a couple of weeks later but it folded again and has been dead for the past 4 months. I get random freezes on various roms and the battery gets so hot I can't hold my phone sometimes. Maybe I got a lemon (my wife got an M8 the same time as me, also had the camera lens issue bit nothing else) but it's really hurt my confidence in HTC. I've had HTC handsets almost exclusively for the past 11 years, and given how weak I view the A9 (or X9) I will be abandoning HTC thanks to how poor the M8 has been for me.
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Hmm, Interesting.... Yea, HTC currently is in a really bad position, the A9 & X9 are certainly a joke... But I can't really find a good phone with an active dev community with the same price range...

Imotep95 said:
S-off is like 100% unlock, you can flash firmwares, sound mods(with adsp) etc, RUU: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1656721
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How do I know if it's S-off or not ?
and if the one i got was "S-on", Is it "S-off"able ?

biascoblix said:
How do I know if it's S-off or not ?
and if the one i got was "S-on", Is it "S-off"able ?
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Sure, its s off-able
S-On(security on), S-OFF(seurity off)
Yes, if its new, its S-ON, only dev edition comes with S-Off.
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Imotep95 said:
Sure, its s off-able
S-On(security on), S-OFF(seurity off)
Yes, if its new, its S-ON, only dev edition comes with S-Off.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
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Okay, Thanks very much for your help...
I'll give myself a few days of more research.. but I'm probably going to get it... can't really find another alternative for the same price with an active dev community ..
Thanks again,
Cheers..
and oh, MERRY CHRISTMAS...

biascoblix said:
Hmm, Interesting.... Yea, HTC currently is in a really bad position, the A9 & X9 are certainly a joke... But I can't really find a good phone with an active dev community with the same price range...
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Yeah that's the bit that sucks the most, after all its the original HTC built XDA that bought this site to light many years ago. That's why I'm leaning closest to the Nexus 6P at the moment as a possible next phone as it doesn't need too much hacking to be what I want it to be. But I'm not 100% happy with the 6P either, but I don't want to wait another year to see if HTC can pull something decent out of their hat. M8 seriously ruined it for me
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dazultra2000 said:
Yeah that's the bit that sucks the most, after all its the original HTC built XDA that bought this site to light many years ago. That's why I'm leaning closest to the Nexus 6P at the moment as a possible next phone as it doesn't need too much hacking to be what I want it to be. But I'm not 100% happy with the 6P either, but I don't want to wait another year to see if HTC can pull something decent out of their hat. M8 seriously ruined it for me
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I really wanted to get the 6P but here's why I didn't..
1- SD810.... Just NO !!
2- A lot... I meant really A lot of defective units.. especially with the screen.. A lot of units are coming with irregular colored screens...
3- Price... yea, surely it's currently priced at 500$... but i'm afraid to use forwarding service to ship it to my country here coz of the huge amount of defective units.. and local retailers here selling it for 650$.. NO THANKS... and I can see you're from the UK, you're getting ripped off.. it's roughly about 700$ for the 6P in the UK !!

biascoblix said:
I don't really care about official support... I hate Android OEM skins... The first thing I do when I get a new device is usually installing an AOSP based ROM...
Currently, I can get one for around 340$.. That's from a local store..
They are on eBay for 260$~
But I'm from Egypt... So there's shipping and tax and stuff which gonna ramp the price to around 340 as well...
I'll probably go ahead and buy it from the local store...
___
Concerning defective units... Were there any parts that were reported defective on units before... I have people reporting not working mics...
___
and is there multiple models of the phone or is it just one ?
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I switched from the HTC One M7 to the M8 - 2 months ago for the same price of 350$. Got it off Ebay. It was an imported T-mobile version from U.S unlocked, so there is no warranty. If you're getting it at the local store with warranty I'd suggest picking it.
Good stuff I've noticed:
The phones battery is a quite a difference from the M7. The battery is slightly larger and the processor is more efficient. 2 months later with Skydragons Sense Rom with Marshmallow, the battery life is still great.
The M7 gave 1 hour 30 minutes to 2 hours of On screen time (If I was not gaming much) , while this phone goes beyond 3.5 hours. It lasts over a day with moderate use and gaming.
The phone doesn't heat up crazy like the M7 did. Expect it to get warm, it's metal build.
The speakers are much louder than the M7. Along with this factor and the amazing battery life I was convinced that the phone was worth upgrading to.
The camera is decent and rather nice in low light conditions. However if camera is really important to you I'd suggest avoiding this phone.
HTC Sense is way better than stock android. The launcher itself is so handy. Music player is the best I've used, simple and effective.
The phone feels exotic in the hand, super premium.
Sound output without the equalizer(Boomsound) is hands down one of the best you will get.
Huge development community.
Has SD card support which the previous phone didn't have.
Cons:
Boomsound on earphones and headphones is really atrocious. The Beats Audio which was on the M7 was waaaayyy better! If you get this phone, just turn off boomsound on headphones.
The phone is curvy and hence becomes super slippery, just be careful handing the device, it's prone to slipping out of your hand. Worth mentioning this phone is heavy.
Dual Camera at the back is gimmicky.
Some of the OEM's software is poorly implemented and of late HTC has been messing some of them up. Example: Blinkfeed with ads and recommendations, HTC TV and Notes.
Has on screen buttons instead of the HTC M7's capacitve. And on screen buttons are rubbish.
The speaker grilles trap dirt easier than the previous model, you can however use a tooth brush or needle to clean them.
The power button is on top and a pain to reach. Doesn't help that the phone is taller than the M7 .
The top camera in the back can get damaged due to poor protection as compared to the main camera. You can still click photos, but can't use the dual camera effects. Also you will keep getting an error message "Dual camera is blocked..."
Defective Models: Yes there are models which ship with the dual camera damaged. If you get an opportunity to test out the phone first, check the camera. If you get the dual camera is blocked - just request if he can drop the price for you further. You will still be able to use the main camera.
This phone is not perfect and is HTC's Rough Diamond. With the processor, sound quality and dev support, I'd recommend it.

dar87 said:
I switched from the HTC One M7 to the M8 - 2 months ago for the same price of 350$. Got it off Ebay. It was an imported T-mobile version from U.S unlocked, so there is no warranty. If you're getting it at the local store with warranty I'd suggest picking it.
Good stuff I've noticed:
The phones battery is a quite a difference from the M7. The battery is slightly larger and the processor is more efficient. 2 months later with Skydragons Sense Rom with Marshmallow, the battery life is still great.
The M7 gave 1 hour 30 minutes to 2 hours of On screen time (If I was not gaming much) , while this phone goes beyond 3.5 hours. It lasts over a day with moderate use and gaming.
The phone doesn't heat up crazy like the M7 did. Expect it to get warm, it's metal build.
The speakers are much louder than the M7. Along with this factor and the amazing battery life I was convinced that the phone was worth upgrading to.
The camera is decent and rather nice in low light conditions. However if camera is really important to you I'd suggest avoiding this phone.
HTC Sense is way better than stock android. The launcher itself is so handy. Music player is the best I've used, simple and effective.
The phone feels exotic in the hand, super premium.
Sound output without the equalizer(Boomsound) is hands down one of the best you will get.
Huge development community.
Has SD card support which the previous phone didn't have.
Cons:
Boomsound on earphones and headphones is really atrocious. The Beats Audio which was on the M7 was waaaayyy better! If you get this phone, just turn off boomsound on headphones.
The phone is curvy and hence becomes super slippery, just be careful handing the device, it's prone to slipping out of your hand. Worth mentioning this phone is heavy.
Dual Camera at the back is gimmicky.
Some of the OEM's software is poorly implemented and of late HTC has been messing some of them up. Example: Blinkfeed with ads and recommendations, HTC TV and Notes.
Has on screen buttons instead of the HTC M7's capacitve. And on screen buttons are rubbish.
The speaker grilles trap dirt easier than the previous model, you can however use a tooth brush or needle to clean them.
The power button is on top and a pain to reach. Doesn't help that the phone is taller than the M7 .
The top camera in the back can get damaged due to poor protection as compared to the main camera. You can still click photos, but can't use the dual camera effects. Also you will keep getting an error message "Dual camera is blocked..."
Defective Models: Yes there are models which ship with the dual camera damaged. If you get an opportunity to test out the phone first, check the camera. If you get the dual camera is blocked - just request if he can drop the price for you further. You will still be able to use the main camera.
This phone is not perfect and is HTC's Rough Diamond. With the processor, sound quality and dev support, I'd recommend it.
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Thanks for that detailed comment...
I'm coming from the phone that was barely able to shot decent 720p videos
literally anything would be an upgrade for me... the M8 is great compared to its price...
and the dual camera is a joke, i know that.. I'll probably be running AOSP roms which I don't think utilize it anyway...

biascoblix said:
Thanks for that detailed comment...
I'm coming from the phone that was barely able to shot decent 720p videos
literally anything would be an upgrade for me... the M8 is great compared to its price...
and the dual camera is a joke, i know that.. I'll probably be running AOSP roms which I don't think utilize it anyway...
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You might want to try a GPE Rom like this instead of an AOSP one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2706391

dar87 said:
You might want to try a GPE Rom like this instead of an AOSP one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2706391
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That looks great... Can't wait to get my hands on the phone... I'm gonna be buying it asap..

LeEco Le Pro 3 Review (Real User Review)

I've had my Le Pro 3 for over a week now and just published my full detailed video review which covers pretty much everything from the design, cameras, dual loudspeakers, benchmarks, GPS and wifi range and speeds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfTIx-DWcmo
I also ran a speed test and comparison against my Xiaomi Mi 5S Plus just to see how they compared as both have Snapdragon 821's and 4GB of RAM.
Overall it's a very decent mobile however, it still has the flaws from the Le Max 2, large black bezels, no MicroSD or 3.5mm port are deal breakers for some. Audio from the type-c to 3.5mm adaptor is very clean and sounds great. No static and loud too.
The camera is a bit of a let down, no OIS still and while it can take some decent photos in good light, low light and video is not the greatest for a flagship mobile. The Chinese need to really step up their game on the camera department. I wouldn't by this mobile for the best camera, I would buy it for good performance and great battery life. I was able to get around 11 hours of SoC (continuous)
Camera samples:
Benchmarks and battery life screen grabs:

Thx with this first review

Thank you And great job !

I was planning to ditch my Axon 7 for this phone, but not really that sure anymore. Seems like a lateral transfer, not really an upgrade in any way (except for battery life I suppose?).

wow..12hr screen on time. That is impressive.

Hendrickson said:
I've had my Le Pro 3 for over a week now and just published my full detailed video review which covers pretty much everything from the design, cameras, dual loudspeakers, benchmarks, GPS and wifi range and speeds.
I also ran a speed test and comparison against my Xiaomi Mi 5S Plus just to see how they compared as both have Snapdragon 821's and 4GB of RAM.
Overall it's a very decent mobile however, it still has the flaws from the Le Max 2, large black bezels, no MicroSD or 3.5mm port are deal breakers for some. Audio from the type-c to 3.5mm adaptor is very clean and sounds great. No static and loud too.
The camera is a bit of a let down, no OIS still and while it can take some decent photos in good light, low light and video is not the greatest for a flagship mobile. The Chinese need to really step up their game on the camera department. I wouldn't by this mobile for the best camera, I would buy it for good performance and great battery life. I was able to get around 11 hours of SoC (continuous)
Camera samples:
Benchmarks and battery life screen grabs:
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I want to buy the phone because it has great specs (does it feel as good as it sounds?) but I want to know if google services work flawlessly e.g. contact syncing,play store. Since you have this phone what is your general opinion about it, does it work buying it?
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tritran18518 said:
wow..12hr screen on time. That is impressive.
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I think that 12 hours was the time it was active

chtsarts said:
I want to buy the phone because it has great specs (does it feel as good as it sounds?) but I want to know if google services work flawlessly e.g. contact syncing,play store. Since you have this phone what is your general opinion about it, does it work buying it?
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I think that 12 hours was the time it was active
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I also have this phone. No problem with Google services or Play store. Contactar syncing was perfect, with Google account and others account.
Two days with It and i like It a lot.
In my experience 6:30 of screen with 4G and almost without wifi.
Sorry for my english.

Thanks for the review. Maybe the Pro3 is not the best phone ever made. But it seems to be very very good, will most likely not explode and - taking into account the price - there is simply no competition. Hopefully, my phone will be delivered soon ...

I've received it today...very beautiful and work really good. We need an international ROM however.
I have this problem...it doesn't let me change or delete default APN. A problem I read is already present in other EUI smartphone someone has solved this Problem?
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Hendrickson said:
I've had my Le Pro 3 for over a week now and just published my full detailed video review which covers pretty much everything from the design, cameras, dual loudspeakers, benchmarks, GPS and wifi range and speeds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfTIx-DWcmo
I also ran a speed test and comparison against my Xiaomi Mi 5S Plus just to see how they compared as both have Snapdragon 821's and 4GB of RAM.
Overall it's a very decent mobile however, it still has the flaws from the Le Max 2, large black bezels, no MicroSD or 3.5mm port are deal breakers for some. Audio from the type-c to 3.5mm adaptor is very clean and sounds great. No static and loud too.
The camera is a bit of a let down, no OIS still and while it can take some decent photos in good light, low light and video is not the greatest for a flagship mobile. The Chinese need to really step up their game on the camera department. I wouldn't by this mobile for the best camera, I would buy it for good performance and great battery life. I was able to get around 11 hours of SoC (continuous)
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Thanks for that great review. Just some questions. Believe there are some like me who do not have access to LeEco products but are still keen on buying from an online reseller but have some concerns.
1. Are there any noticeable hardware issues? - understand that there are some complaints recently even on the le 2 that the display was not installed properly. Wondering if there are other types of defects that could render the device unusable for the obsessive compulsive people out there
2. What sort of rom is your unit using? - Importers/international sellers are known to meddle with the device to cater to the demands of their target demographic especially to those outside of china, hence, they can install fake roms (custom miui roms that don't receive updates for example) or install play store (after a restore to factory option, the gapps disappear)
3. The rom US units use seem to differ to the non-us units and the model numbers also differ. Would this be an issue if say the international rom is released and its not compatible with a unit bought from an importer? - had an issue before with a mi5 where the rom was an unofficial one and had to go through the hassle of unlocking the bootloader and installing the global rom instead
4.Any idea of software support in the long run and how prompt are LeEco's updates; ie Android N?
Thanks in advance and patience!

I know that US version x727 should be only 4/64 4gb ram and 64 GB ROM. It should have different LTE bands...in order to be used on us market.
Probably the us ROM couldn't be used on Chinese units.
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Thanks for a great review. I am ordering this when it becomes available in the US. Can't beat the price for what is in it.

androFRUST said:
Thanks for that great review. Just some questions. Believe there are some like me who do not have access to LeEco products but are still keen on buying from an online reseller but have some concerns.
1. Are there any noticeable hardware issues? - understand that there are some complaints recently even on the le 2 that the display was not installed properly. Wondering if there are other types of defects that could render the device unusable for the obsessive compulsive people out there
2. What sort of rom is your unit using? - Importers/international sellers are known to meddle with the device to cater to the demands of their target demographic especially to those outside of china, hence, they can install fake roms (custom miui roms that don't receive updates for example) or install play store (after a restore to factory option, the gapps disappear)
3. The rom US units use seem to differ to the non-us units and the model numbers also differ. Would this be an issue if say the international rom is released and its not compatible with a unit bought from an importer? - had an issue before with a mi5 where the rom was an unofficial one and had to go through the hassle of unlocking the bootloader and installing the global rom instead
4.Any idea of software support in the long run and how prompt are LeEco's updates; ie Android N?
Thanks in advance and patience!
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I have been using pro3 (x720) for three weeks. The screen display picture occasionally shake for about 0.2 second. This is the most disturbing issue. You can find the same complain in the Chinese leEco forum. Beside, mobile signal is not as strong as the nexus 5 I used for almost 3 years. If you can ignore these two issue, it's a great phone to have.

jwong.hhf said:
I have been using pro3 (x720) for three weeks. The screen display picture occasionally shake for about 0.2 second. This is the most disturbing issue. You can find the same complain in the Chinese leEco forum. Beside, mobile signal is not as strong as the nexus 5 I used for almost 3 years. If you can ignore these two issue, it's a great phone to have.
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Do you think its software related? Whats the rom they're using? Is it like the Mi phones where there is a vendor altered rom installed and does leeco release global stable roms like miui? Sorry, bear with me here ! thanks!

androFRUST said:
Do you think its software related? Whats the rom they're using? Is it like the Mi phones where there is a vendor altered rom installed and does leeco release global stable roms like miui? Sorry, bear with me here ! thanks!
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We all running stock rom with/without root. I hope it's rom related issue. As of now ,no official rom zip is available from LeEco.

Hi,
Just bought the 6/64 nonUS Version to use in Europe. Bought it after watching your review, thanks for that!....
Will directly root the phone in order to remove the chinese App's but wating for some plain Android rom's (stock Android). Had CM9 or so on a galaxy before and i wasnt that suprised as i supposed to be, but will also give it a try if it comes available to the Le Pro 3....
I'm sure with the actual specs and this awesome price the community behind the Pro3 will grow fast. Also i would donate 10€ to support the devs.
Sure to be here more often in future.
Thx&Rgds,
Maxcyber

I just got my Chinese version (6GB/64GB Dual Sim) - The phone is lightning fast. Screen looks great - camera is okay (I just snap pics anyways not really a photo person). The screen is decent if not a bit washed out. Indoors is just fine - outdoors I have to crank it to about 85% to see it. The fingerprint reader seems lightning fast if not 100% accurate. ( I get about 4 out 5 times). It let me add multiple fingerprints to unlock left or right handed. Overall the build is pretty solid. I put in my att sim and did not have to do anything else. Picked up all my settings. My antutu scores are 162397 - just shy of iphone 7 scores. Apparently the install is not google certified. I cannot run Pokemon Go or Android Pay (and snapchat I am told I don't use it). Pokemon Go is the soul breaker for me...
The GPS seems to lock lightning quick. I have not had any issues with Google apps although some updating had to happen (google services, play app, mail app etc...).
The battery seems amazing. I am getting great times out of it I don't have exact numbers but so far so good at least as good as my s7 edge.
I was able to put the google now launcher on it so no issue with the leeco skin.
Hopefully with the US launch tomorrow it will have a google certified image so I can run Pokemon go if not I am not sure I will keep it.

Pokemon go functions on official ROM ...see my screenshots.
I can't Android pay isn't active in Italy.I can't prove it...sorry.
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Yeah I don't understand I got mine from geekbuying.com so why would I not have official rom?
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andy88de said:
Pokemon go functions on official ROM ...see my screenshots.
I can't Android pay isn't active in Italy.I can't prove it...sorry.
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I got the 6g/64gb dual sim model from geekbuying - how can I get the correct rom on it?

See here!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/help/le-pro-3-pokemon-t3491441
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BQ Aquaris X Pro

After my Nexus 5x turned in to a brick I spent a while looking for something suitably Nexus like. the 5x was my third Nexus after a 4 and 5, I had become accustomed to the unadulterated vanilla Android in a well built, reasonably priced package. Since Google seem to have abandoned the Nexus line and with the Pixel being more expensive than I would like I set about finding something different.
Looking for a reasonably priced phone with Vanilla Android and all the usual bits I like (fingerprint, NFC, Android Pay, USB Type-C) I kept seeing the BQ Aquaris X Pro popping up in my searches. I considered and discard Motorola as the price points I was looking at didn't have all of the options I wanted. I considered various Chinese brands but was wary of build quality I've seen in the past. So in the end I opted for the BQ Aquaris X Pro and it arrived yesterday.
So far, I am very happy. At just under £400 for the phone and a case the value seems great. It's a really well made, very good looking phone. With a Snapdragon 626 chip, 4GB RAM and 64GB storage (plus I have added a 128GB SDXC card for my music) I am happy that it is future proof enough not to need an upgrade for a few years.
It feel great in the hand, it really has a feel of quality. The screen is bright and so far all of my apps have been buttery smooth. With the camera out of the Galaxy S7 photos are good quality too.
I will see how it goes over the next few weeks but so far it's all good, battery is lasting well thus far.
If you are looking for something to replace a Nexus then this is a very good option, hopefully some more reviews will pop up online soon.

gingermonkey said:
After my Nexus 5x turned in to a brick I spent a while looking for something suitably Nexus like. the 5x was my third Nexus after a 4 and 5, I had become accustomed to the unadulterated vanilla Android in a well built, reasonably priced package. Since Google seem to have abandoned the Nexus line and with the Pixel being more expensive than I would like I set about finding something different.
Looking for a reasonably priced phone with Vanilla Android and all the usual bits I like (fingerprint, NFC, Android Pay, USB Type-C) I kept seeing the BQ Aquaris X Pro popping up in my searches. I considered and discard Motorola as the price points I was looking at didn't have all of the options I wanted. I considered various Chinese brands but was wary of build quality I've seen in the past. So in the end I opted for the BQ Aquaris X Pro and it arrived yesterday.
So far, I am very happy. At just under £400 for the phone and a case the value seems great. It's a really well made, very good looking phone. With a Snapdragon 626 chip, 4GB RAM and 64GB storage (plus I have added a 128GB SDXC card for my music) I am happy that it is future proof enough not to need an upgrade for a few years.
It feel great in the hand, it really has a feel of quality. The screen is bright and so far all of my apps have been buttery smooth. With the camera out of the Galaxy S7 photos are good quality too.
I will see how it goes over the next few weeks but so far it's all good, battery is lasting well thus far.
If you are looking for something to replace a Nexus then this is a very good option, hopefully some more reviews will pop up online soon.
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Hi. Thanks for the quick review.
If you can, please upload a video with and without OIS and a few low light photos. Thank you.

gingermonkey said:
After my Nexus 5x turned in to a brick I spent a while looking for something suitably Nexus like. the 5x was my third Nexus after a 4 and 5, I had become accustomed to the unadulterated vanilla Android in a well built, reasonably priced package. Since Google seem to have abandoned the Nexus line and with the Pixel being more expensive than I would like I set about finding something different.
Looking for a reasonably priced phone with Vanilla Android and all the usual bits I like (fingerprint, NFC, Android Pay, USB Type-C) I kept seeing the BQ Aquaris X Pro popping up in my searches. I considered and discard Motorola as the price points I was looking at didn't have all of the options I wanted. I considered various Chinese brands but was wary of build quality I've seen in the past. So in the end I opted for the BQ Aquaris X Pro and it arrived yesterday.
So far, I am very happy. At just under £400 for the phone and a case the value seems great. It's a really well made, very good looking phone. With a Snapdragon 626 chip, 4GB RAM and 64GB storage (plus I have added a 128GB SDXC card for my music) I am happy that it is future proof enough not to need an upgrade for a few years.
It feel great in the hand, it really has a feel of quality. The screen is bright and so far all of my apps have been buttery smooth. With the camera out of the Galaxy S7 photos are good quality too.
I will see how it goes over the next few weeks but so far it's all good, battery is lasting well thus far.
If you are looking for something to replace a Nexus then this is a very good option, hopefully some more reviews will pop up online soon.
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I changed my HTC 10 to the Xpro, and I must say it`s really nice! It`s a very nice build quality and the software is almost untouched Vanilla Android 7.1.1
I don`t feel any difference in Speed, but the SOT is a lot better. Would love to see any LOS development in the future!
By now, there is only the htcmania forum and some here in Germany, but root and twrp are already accomplished.

bonzai80 said:
I changed my HTC 10 to the Xpro, and I must say it`s really nice! It`s a very nice build quality and the software is almost untouched Vanilla Android 7.1.1
I don`t feel any difference in Speed, but the SOT is a lot better. Would love to see any LOS development in the future!
By now, there is only the htcmania forum and some here in Germany, but root and twrp are already accomplished.
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Happy to find another owner!
Have you tried Android Pay yet? I am currently working with Google support having been pointed in their direction by BQ support. Android Pay is not working as it is failing SafetyNet check despite not being rooted, having an unlocked bootloader or any custom ROMS. Not working out of the box has me a tad concerned...

what about audio quality? APT-X BT and Sabre ESS DAC

So gingermonkey, what are your current thoughts on your phone.
Also, I am particularly keen to know if the gps works well.
Thanks

hi
i do need to push the mobile from android 7.1.1 to 7.1.2 at least, cause of some bugs related to call recording
anyone is cooking a personalized rom for this device or knows whom i could ask?
thank you

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Does the Aquaris X (Pro variant or non-Pro) have the adoptable storage option, i.e., the option to format a micro SD card to be a virtual part of the internal storage? I believe it is a standard option in Android Nougat, but may be disabled by a manufacturer.

possible there isn't an aquaris x pro section on xda????

ironia. said:
possible there isn't an aquaris x pro section on xda????
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It looks like it. iIwas very surprised after buying the phone and searching for the category here
At the moment i am collecting all information needed to unlock/flash/root and plan to create a thread here on xda.
Not sure where to create a new topic, but i think it can be moved afterward by a moderator when the appropriate main category has been created..
Any idea, how to start the main category? -I am below the 10 post threshold, so maybe i simply can't see it..?
edit [2017-09-23]:
Have to correct myself - 10 post limit is only for dev forum.
Info for other new users, take a look here: [GUIDE] - XDA New User Guide - Getting started on XDA
edit [2017-09-23]:
As mentioned above, I collected some information and took notes while unlocking and flashing my phone. Take a look here: [HOW-TO] BQ Aquaris X Pro | [Stock-ROM] Unlock,Recovery,Root,Upgrade (TWRP/Magisk)

Requested a BQ Forum here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73765067&postcount=22236
Don't know anything about the decision process

I have an Acquaris X pro 128 gb with 128gb samsung evo sd card.
Usually the touch seems not great, i have some problem when i'm writing and whith daily using. Some fixes? Maybe i have to change screen dp?
My default is 423

I confirm...it's normal that the touch isn't great...

re: aquaris x pro section on xda
ironia. said:
possible there isn't an aquaris x pro section on xda????
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At the moment it seems so, unfortunately, I am waiting for that, too...
Though it is very nice that there are already experimental images available at the site android-hilfe.de (link mentioned above), so development has started! I am looking forward to the first stable release... *thumbs up*

ljoova said:
what about audio quality? APT-X BT and Sabre ESS DAC
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The Aquaris X Pro has a ES9118 Sabre DAC and supports aptX. In my opinion, the audio quality is superb, both via BT (using aptX) as well as analog headphones.

ryazor said:
The Aquaris X Pro has a ES9118 Sabre DAC and supports aptX. In my opinion, the audio quality is superb, both via BT (using aptX) as well as analog headphones.
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Where are you find ES9118 Sabre related information, please? DAC can be accessed with any player?

dadme said:
Where are you find ES9118 Sabre related information, please? DAC can be accessed with any player?
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For example here. Of course you can use any player.

I need a copy of modemst1 & modemst2
Hi, since some months I haven't got IMEI number, I've lost it and I really don't know how, I surpose I did
Code:
fastboot erase modemst1
Code:
fastboot erase modemst2
and now I can't call, and no internet. My phone detects SIM card, but no signal. If I "call" *#06# the popup onli shows the word "IMEI" I forgot serial number too, now is 1234567890ABCDEF. I think that my last option is buy a new PCB, but I didn't found it anywhere. As a last option, I decided to type here and ask for some help... Can someone send me a copy of modemst1 and modemst2 please? I don't know if that is possible, but if that can be possible and someone send me a copy, I will be very grateful.
Thanks in advance,
Miguel Ángel.

Headphones under 25$ [1700INR]

I've been on a headphone hunt for quite some time and I still couldn't find the best one under 25$.:angel:
I've got a list of some headphones that I think is great.
So, I need suggestions on which one to buy.
And people who own any of these are more than welcome to share your opinions!!:good:
1. OnePlus Bullets Earphones (V2)
Link
https://www.amazon.in/OnePlus-Bulle...s+wireless&dpPl=1&dpID=31COHgcl7uL&ref=plSrch
2. Sony MDR-XB55
Link
https://www.amazon.in/Sony-MDR-XB55...+mdrxb55ap&dpPl=1&dpID=31xKGWSNZdL&ref=plSrch
3. Sennheiser-CX-275
Link
https://www.amazon.in/Sennheiser-CX...+earphones&dpPl=1&dpID=419Mt+rdVfL&ref=plSrch
4. JBL T290
Link
https://www.amazon.in/JBL-T290-Meta...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=DBSV5S3MCNSP4XNQ6YA9
If you guys have a better option... Please do suggest! You're more than welcome!
**Thanks in advance**:victory:

2 or 3 anyone of them will suit your needs well, I will lean towards Sony MDR because personally I have tried it and it has some amazing bass and better build quality than cx275 but it's your choice but go for 2 or 3.

JIBIN.D.GAMER said:
2 or 3 anyone of them will suit your needs well, I will lean towards Sony MDR because personally I have tried it and it has some amazing bass and better build quality than cx275 but it's your choice but go for 2 or 3.
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Thank you bruv! But still is the OnePlus Bullets V2 any good?

Mi IV hybrid dual driver earphones. You've missed it

the_phantom_97 said:
Thank you bruv! But still is the OnePlus Bullets V2 any good?
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Nopes, not worth the price when comparing to 2 or 3.

imma's_boy said:
Mi IV hybrid dual driver earphones. You've missed it
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Dude!:highfive: I saw that! But it doesn't ship to my place(India):angel:
Outta luck I guess:crying:

the_phantom_97 said:
Dude!:highfive: I saw that! But it doesn't ship to my place(India):angel:
Outta luck I guess:crying:
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Same here.. I'm also in India... It's available on gearbest.com

imma's_boy said:
Same here.. I'm also in India... It's available on gearbest.com
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Cheers bruv! :good::fingers-crossed:
Will definitely look into it! Tysm btw:angel:

Best Bluetooth earphones under 2k
1)Qcy M1c its louder with heavy bass
2)Qcy M1PRO it has battery saving features

Well If you are willing to expand your budget by a tiny bit you can get ANC as well.
I'd recommend the type-C highly & more so than the latter especially if you have a phone with a type-C port because it has stellar noise-cancellation for the asking price
https://www.mi.com/hk/mi-noise-cancelling-earphones-type-C/
While this 3.5mm is not as amazing as the type-C version its almost equally good considering the way they designed it with a clip & there are 2 levels of ANC to choose from & has an 8 hour battery. My only complaint with this is I wish the battery was larger.
https://www.mi.com/hk/mi-noise-cancelling-earphones/
I have used both & in combination with https://store.mi.com/in/item/3180600001 you also get ANC & BT with the 3.5mm version which I feel is a huge advantage & the only disadvantage of the type-C version(ie you cannot charge, from a powerbank or otherwise, & use the headset) !