Hello all,
I'm just wondering, do you guys notice or know of any real difference b/t the unlocked/non-carrier firmware that's out there and the carrier-specific firmware from T-Mobile for the M8? Is one considered better than the other?
Please share your thoughts with us!
Thank You,
RockStar2005
RockStar2005 said:
Hello all,
I'm just wondering, do you guys notice or know of any real difference b/t the unlocked/non-carrier firmware that's out there and the carrier-specific firmware from T-Mobile for the M8? Is one considered better than the other?
Please share your thoughts with us!
Thank You,
RockStar2005
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I know my experience with the M7 (yes i know its an M8 forum but still somewhat relevant) is Yes, the carrier firmware was better.
I had a Stock TMO branded M7. I did the full conversion to make it a GPe unit. It was nice but i had some signal issues. It was better with the TMO radios but ultimately i put it back to stock TMO and for me i got the best results like that.
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I know my experience with the M7 (yes i know its an M8 forum but still somewhat relevant) is Yes, the carrier firmware was better.
I had a Stock TMO branded M7. I did the full conversion to make it a GPe unit. It was nice but i had some signal issues. It was better with the TMO radios but ultimately i put it back to stock TMO and for me i got the best results like that.
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No I think the M7 experience is definitely still relevant!
Ok, you're the first one so far here to say that. So the radios change based on the firmware? Why is that? I mean, why would the radios be affected by the firmware? Seems to me it'd be better to leave the radios alone and let them remain how they came.
My previous OTA was from T-Mobile, but in order to get updated ViperOne M8, I had to get the firmware for 2.22 and T-Mo wasn't deploying it. They apparently just approved it on the 18th, but as u prob read above, I'm not even sure if they've deployed it, and what it contains. I seem to have as much signal quality as before. I just wish they'd have VoLTE deployed for the M8s. That would be great.
RockStar2005
I have been with T-Mobile less then 2 years. Prior to that i was with sprint over 10 years. I got most of my "radio" experience flashing different radios for the Samsung GS2.
That device was super finikey when it came to radios. I also found at the time that 3 different network vendors set up most of the CDMA network in the USA for Sprint. So for me having a specific radio work well meant that same one might not work so well up north. Samsung was also known to not have very good hardware / antennas (when i say radios i am referring to the firmware for the specific device.) So while my devices hardware stayed the same Samsung was making software tweaks during each revision of software.
But to keep it simple, Yes, different versions of radios can work differently in each device. Thats even with stock radios. Then if you add stuff like a GPe radio to a stock unit, or what i had with my M7 using a GPe ROM with a TMO radio. It always pains me to see people who post about using carrier A phone unlocked with carrier B network. Those people will never get the most out of their hardware network wise because carrier B has worked with the manufacturer to make sure their device is created to be specific to their network. Sure an unlocked will work but not at 100% efficiency. It could be a hardware limitation, could be some software that is baked into the ROM to make it work better, or even as simple as TMO baking in WiFi calling with their network.
I mean look what happened to the Note 3 for TMO. Originally it shipped with LTE not even enabled. The hardware was there then BAM, with an OTA LTE was enabled. Flash forward to the last few months, 2 separate updates for VoLTE. Those are radios updates that are specific to the hardware in the Note 3.
Hopefully someone else can chime in as well. Id hate to think im the only one.
Six,
No you explained that rather well! My cousin has the Note 3 so I know what u said about the last part (on VoLTE) is def true. I wish HTC would hurry the F up and give us M8 ppl VoLTE. Would be nice. And make it available everywhere, not just major cities (it's avail in Chicago, but I live 25-30 min away).
I have a buddy who works for U.S. Cellular corporate, and he said the same thing. Unlocked phones, esp ones sold by one carrier but used on another's network, don't work AS well as when the phone is made for your carrier's network. International phones at least I believe work fine if released OFFICIALLY in the U.S. (i.e., Sony's Xperia Z2, which is ONLY avail that way in the U.S.), because they've been tested on ALL carrier networks/bands, but that's diff than using say a Sprint phone on T-Mobile's network, I believe. (Or using a phone that wasn't approved for all the major U.S. carriers.)
So far you're the only who seems pro-carrier firmware/OTAs, but that's ok. That's why I started this thread, so I can get all sides of the story. But if you read the previous posts, the other posters make a compelling argument that's pro-noncarrier. It sounds like in my situation I'm fine, b/c I'm pretty sure the int't M8 was tested on T-Mo's bands already. The firmware would just go along with that same data, so I don't think I'm having any loss of quality. Now if I carrier-unlocked my phone and tried it on Sprint or Verizon, or even AT&T......... then I would expect a loss of quality at some level.
Thanks,
RockStar2005
Agreed. I see merits in both custom roms, stock roms, GPe Roms and Cyanogen.
Back in the GS2 days i was a big fan of using some of those custom ROMS guys would cook up. It fixed a lot of issues with Android.
But for ME, since 4.2.2 and up, i have been happy with stock ROMs.
In fact i almost always ran custom roms on my older devices and only recently started to leave them stock.
The last thing was when TMO gave me 3 GB free tethering, that was the last thing i might have rooted for.
My note 3 is stock, my M8 is still stock. and my back up M7 is stock (after putting GPe on it for a few weeks and testing stuff out).
I for one use my M8 as my daily phone and my Note 3 as my back up / game device.
For example, today at lunch i had local news streaming on my M8 while my Note 3 was tethered to my M8. On my Note 3 i was playing a few games while i waited for my food then answered a few emails and chatted with a friend on Hangouts.
With TMOs recent 4.4.3 update my M8 seems to run better then before and i feel im getting better battery life out of it.
Cant wait for my Note 3 to get 4.4.3 or 4.4.4. Also really looking forward to Android L on both of the units.
The way i look at it is what are YOUR pros and cons. LOL.
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Agreed. I see merits in both custom roms, stock roms, GPe Roms and Cyanogen.
Back in the GS2 days i was a big fan of using some of those custom ROMS guys would cook up. It fixed a lot of issues with Android.
But for ME, since 4.2.2 and up, i have been happy with stock ROMs.
In fact i almost always ran custom roms on my older devices and only recently started to leave them stock.
The last thing was when TMO gave me 3 GB free tethering, that was the last thing i might have rooted for.
My note 3 is stock, my M8 is still stock. and my back up M7 is stock (after putting GPe on it for a few weeks and testing stuff out).
I for one use my M8 as my daily phone and my Note 3 as my back up / game device.
For example, today at lunch i had local news streaming on my M8 while my Note 3 was tethered to my M8. On my Note 3 i was playing a few games while i waited for my food then answered a few emails and chatted with a friend on Hangouts.
With TMOs recent 4.4.3 update my M8 seems to run better then before and i feel im getting better battery life out of it.
Cant wait for my Note 3 to get 4.4.3 or 4.4.4. Also really looking forward to Android L on both of the units.
The way i look at it is what are YOUR pros and cons. LOL.
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My "pros and cons" list involves having all pros and NO cons! lol
I think I'll prob just wait for the T-Mo OTAs from now on, but then again, b/c I have ViperOne, I won't know when they get deployed unless I constantly revert back to stock. Ughh! I guess so far I haven't really noticed a difference in signal and call quality since installing a non-carrier firmware, though it's only been like not even 2 weeks yet since I did it.
That's cool though that you're so happy with it. Perhaps your posts are an indication that T-Mobile has gotten better with their overall quality, and so that's something to look forward to for when I do go back to stock (whenever that is lol).
Thank You,
RockStar2005
Most people make a big deal about carrier OTAs. So you really dont need to revert back to check for them. As long as your active on the boards you will know when a device gets an OTA.
I failed to mention that part of why im happy with stock is because devices are now getting to the point where they are so fast that having bloat ware on them doesnt noticeably slow down the devices like they used to. At least i dont notice it. Pluse with 4.2.2 they allow you to "disable" most apps you dont want to use. So thats another plus.
Back in the day i used to root and do the custom ROM for extra battery life, or tethering, or to make the device snappier.
I honestly would have thought that someone else might have chimed in by now and added their 2 cents.
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Most people make a big deal about carrier OTAs. So you really dont need to revert back to check for them. As long as your active on the boards you will know when a device gets an OTA.
I failed to mention that part of why im happy with stock is because devices are now getting to the point where they are so fast that having bloat ware on them doesnt noticeably slow down the devices like they used to. At least i dont notice it. Pluse with 4.2.2 they allow you to "disable" most apps you dont want to use. So thats another plus.
Back in the day i used to root and do the custom ROM for extra battery life, or tethering, or to make the device snappier.
I honestly would have thought that someone else might have chimed in by now and added their 2 cents.
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Six,
Yeah, that's true. Or I can check on T-Mobile's update site, though there may still be some delay b/c of how they deploy OTAs: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-10366
I've noticed that too, and before I got ViperOne and also Titanium Backup, I was disabling several apps too. Though I prefer to just uninstall them.
RockStar2005
Six,
I talked to one of the ppl at Team Venom, and he said he has T-Mobile and recommends just taking T-Mobile's firmware updates for better cell reception. I'll do that from now on. But for now, if anyone is interested, I have here a link to the latest radio image file for the M8 (as of 8/27). Just download and "install flash" in TWRP.
And if you're rooted and want to get rid of the "red splash" screen during boot-up, try flashing the attached mod! :victory:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/beucjivbc4i9y3u/RadioUpdate_2.22.531.5_1.19.213311491.03G.zip
Thank You,
RockStar2005
So... My question now.. I'm one of those buy vzw m8 take over to T-Mobile. I'm running viper 2.3. It runs great. But vzw never updated to newest firmware.so my question I guess is... Can I flash a T-Mobile radio or firmware to my vzw phone? I kinda know the answer, but I'd rather ask. So if I can.. that'll be great!
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I know on the M7 that would brick the unit.
The CDMA and GSM units had different hardware and flashing any GSM ROM into a CDMA unit bricked them.
I want to say the same holds for the M8.
Can someone else confirm that for me?
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I know on the M7 that would brick the unit.
The CDMA and GSM units had different hardware and flashing any GSM ROM into a CDMA unit bricked them.
I want to say the same holds for the M8.
Can someone else confirm that for me?
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Yeah thanks I kinda figured that, but you know it never hurts to ask, especially if it has the potential to maybe work out.
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Then maybe would it be better for me when Verizon gets the ota for 4.4.3.... I should implement that, and then.... Redo my rom?
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I know a lot of you out there are obviously updating to newer, cooked ROMs. This by far is the best bet when spending the kind of money we are on these phones. You get much more out of your new phone than it is capable of doing from the factory or retail store.
I want to instill in everyone's mind how truly important it is to check out the new radios available for the phone. It takes literally 5 minutes or less start to finish to flash a new radio. You won't lose your newly flashed ROM or any settings that I have found. So, please take notice to my advice. Below is the link for all the newly updated radios for our device. Check out a few of them and make some calls, use your gps. I believe you will be much happier with a new radio, because frankly the stock radios are garbage.
My call signal strength is maxed out in my home whereas it only had 2-3 bars before. My gps doesn't lag behind me anymore, and My Location works perfectly since flashing a new radio. So, try one out. It definitely can't hurt. Below is the link to the thread with all of the newer radios. ENJOY!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939
i never knew what the radios purpose was, i had a hunch i was something like what you described here but now that im sure id like to say thank you and ill definitely be changing my radio
outerdepth said:
I know a lot of you out there are obviously updating to newer, cooked ROMs. This by far is the best bet when spending the kind of money we are on these phones. You get much more out of your new phone than it is capable of doing from the factory or retail store.
I want to instill in everyone's mind how truly important it is to check out the new radios available for the phone. It takes literally 5 minutes or less start to finish to flash a new radio. You won't lose your newly flashed ROM or any settings that I have found. So, please take notice to my advice. Below is the link for all the newly updated radios for our device. Check out a few of them and make some calls, use your gps. I believe you will be much happier with a new radio, because frankly the stock radios are garbage.
My call signal strength is maxed out in my home whereas it only had 2-3 bars before. My gps doesn't lag behind me anymore, and My Location works perfectly since flashing a new radio. So, try one out. It definitely can't hurt. Below is the link to the thread with all of the newer radios. ENJOY!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939
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You're TMO-US, right? Which radio did you use?
sixsevenco said:
You're TMO-US, right? Which radio did you use?
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He mentioned in another thread that the radio he flashed to is the one ending in .57, and that's the one I'd suggest you start with. I happen to have it already because it's the one that comes with the stock T-mo 6.5 ROM...but if you've running any ROM's with a different radio, you'll want to give this one a shot. A few other T-mo users have reported good results with the .77 radio, but I'd still start with the .57 if you haven't already.
thanks outerdepth...
I have always figured I should update my radio, but never bothered/got around to it. Your post re-motivated me, so I updated from .25 to .77 and...
100% improvement!!
My gps accuracy used to be off by about a city block, which I attributed to the fact that 'oh well its a cel phone, what can I expect', now is accurate within a meter or two.
My data speeds are much improved, and I dunno if its my imagination or not, but calls even seem clearer and have a better sound quality to them.
Dont know about battery drain yet, but its not really important to me cause I'm a truck driver, so I can leave my phone plugged in most of the time in the truck
Thanks!!
So this might be a dumb question but are these radio updates official? They overwrite ROM so I'm kinda always wary to ever try this. I have the official HTC ROM from their website and I assume you can flash it back but I'm not sure.
The ROM will stay, all your contacts/text/etc will stay, and you SHOULD NOT have to worry about losing anything. You can use a program like SPB Back Up or Sprite back up if you are worried though.
Which radio to use on TP2 on Sprint?
Does my location and company plays any part on this issue of the radios?
I have a 6.5 AT&T Rom in Puerto Rico
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Which radio to use on TP2 on Sprint?
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You want to head over here
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=90342
I switched to VZW 1.88 and it is about the same as the PCS 2.32 in my area but I put a bunch of radios on my SD card in case I travel and have no bars so I can use this method to flash on the go.
EdAmsterdam said:
Does my location and company plays any part on this issue of the radios?
I have a 6.5 AT&T Rom in Puerto Rico
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The thread about TP2 Radios tells you how to choose the ones that will work for you, just look for the ones that say AT&T and start there.
Furious911 said:
So this might be a dumb question but are these radio updates official? They overwrite ROM so I'm kinda always wary to ever try this. I have the official HTC ROM from their website and I assume you can flash it back but I'm not sure.
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The radio-roms are "official". However, in order to flash one you have to first do the HardSPL, which isn't official....and may not be completely reversible, depending on what carrier-branded (if any) phone you have.
The only reason this SPL issue may matter is if you have to return for warranty return. If they swap the phone for you in a store then surely nobody in a store will know the difference...but if you have to send it to HTC then non-stock tampering may be evident.
That being said, it hasn't stopped me from taking full benefit of what this site has to offer and make full use of what is possible with my TP2.
Good advice for everyone.
Some of the newer cooked roms require a particular radio...or at least will work best with a particular radio. Before flashing any new rom, read to see if the chef suggests a certain one.
Tanks sirphunkee
Does my phone have to be unlocked to install a new radio as is the case with installing a new ROM?
gotvet said:
Does my phone have to be unlocked to install a new radio as is the case with installing a new ROM?
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No, the security lock only prevents you from switching carriers. Shouldn't affect the radio.
And in any case the phone doesn't have to be unlocked to install a custom ROM, it has to have a different hard SPL.
I want to preface this first by saying that...
A. I am not a developer
B. I have huge respect for developers, i know it's not easy
C. I am familiar with rooting/flashing/adb/ etc, just not about Rom development
my question....
The HTC One GPE edition is no different from our VZW phone right? Shouldn't the Rom be able to be directly ported over without issue?
Or does the phone being LTE/Verizon cause issues?
Now i know it's not that easy or this clearly would have been done.... I am just wondering why the GPE roms are not directly able to be flashed on our phones.
Also, if i leave Verizon, and go to T-Mo, would i be able to flash a GPE RUU and have the phone work?
Thanks for anyone with any insight. Just curious about getting a true 100% pure GPE rom on my phone....
IIRC our model primarily uses a CDMA radio while the developer edition uses a GSM based radio. If you directly flashed the GPE ROM you would most likely kill your phone's radio.
mooseknuckles said:
I want to preface this first by saying that...
A. I am not a developer
B. I have huge respect for developers, i know it's not easy
C. I am familiar with rooting/flashing/adb/ etc, just not about development itself or Roms
my question....
The HTC One GPE edition is no different from our phone VZW right? Shouldn't the Rom be able to be directly ported over without issue?
Or does the phone being LTE/Verizon cause issues?
Now i know it's not that easy or this clearly would have been done.... I am just wondering why the GPE roms are not directly able to be flashed on our phones.
Also, if i leave Verizon, and go to T-Mo, would i be able to flash a GPE RUU and have the phone work?
Thanks for anyone with any insight. Just curious about getting a true 100% pure GPE rom on my phone....
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Your second question is primarily the reason. Our phones run on CDMA/LTE technology. the GPE ROMS are based on GSM technology. so even though you probably could flash one of their ROMS, you more than likely would not have any data or not be able to make phone calls or send text. To answer your last question, I believe these phones are carrier unlocked carrier so you could technically pop in a Tmobile SIM and get their 2G or 3G service(with the right APNs with our current ROMS). I see that people are doing this with their ATT/TMobile/Unlocked phones but I havent heard of anyone getting it to work on the CDMA variants(VZW/Sprint). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G8JXdPk-no
Have you tried some of the GPE modded Roms we have for VZW?
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Your second question is primarily the reason. Our phones run on CDMA/LTE technology. the GPE ROMS are based on GSM technology. so even though you probably could flash one of their ROMS, you more than likely would not have any data or not be able to make phone calls or send text. To answer your last question, I believe these phones are carrier unlocked carrier so you could technically pop in a Tmobile SIM and get their 2G or 3G service(with the right APNs with our current ROMS). I see that people are doing this with their ATT/TMobile/Unlocked phones but I havent heard of anyone getting it to work on the CDMA variants(VZW/Sprint). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G8JXdPk-no
Have you tried some of the GPE modded Roms we have for VZW?
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I did use Newt's GPE ROM when i had the DNA, and it worked fairly well. I have not tried any yet on the One, since i only got the phone a few weeks ago. It looks like they are customized, and i am looking for pure GPE no mods at all. But i still might give the other GPE rome a try, have you tried them? any feedback? Part of me thinks i might make the leap to the CM KitKat build since it seems relatively stable....
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I did use Newt's GPE ROM when i had the DNA, and it worked fairly well. I have not tried any yet on the One, since i only got the phone a few weeks ago. It looks like they are customized, and i am looking for pure GPE no mods at all. But i still might give the other GPE rome a try, have you tried them? any feedback? Part of me thinks i might make the leap to the CM KitKat build since it seems relatively stable....
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Im running Santod's tiKtaK ROM as we speak. It's 4.4 as well and its really vanilla. Beats is the only main thing that doesnt work in it but he says he will look into it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531235
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Im running Santod's tiKtaK ROM as we speak. It's 4.4 as well and its really vanilla. Beats is the only main thing that doesnt work in it but he says he will look into it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531235
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Beats is not a deal breaker for me. I just need good in call audio, data/wifi/signal, tether, and stability. No extra jazz for me.....
I do like how these builds get quick updates so far. makes my little time with verizon left worth while. i am debating jumping to tmo come summer time....
Hi fellow HTC One enthusiasts
I just got an unlocked AT&T M8 a few days ago to upgrade from my Nexus 5 that I'm using on T-Mobile and really enjoying, especially the beautiful screen and exceptional build quality!
So here's my situation: First off, I'm pretty rusty with regards to general ROM installation stuff since I started using Nexus devices, but, being a Nexus enthusiast, the first thing I did when I received my M8 was unlock the boot loader and S-Off the device to fully convert the AT&T M8 to the GPE Lollipop version following this tutorial on YouTube .
So from that, I now have a bootloader-unlocked AT&T M8 with fully stock GPE software (eligible for OTA updates from Google like a Nexus device), S-Off through Sunshine and I believe no custom recovery.
However, I'm having trouble figuring out the LTE/data signal on T-Mobile and some slow Wifi issues that I'd been having since before converting to GPE. I've tried changing the APN's to numerous different ones and the average LTE speeds I've been getting is about 1-4 Mbps here in the Los Angeles suburb area whereas with my Nexus 5, I was receiving at least15-20 on a regular basis. On top of that, the stock Google camera performs horribly on this device and I would love to use the HTC Sense camera instead but I've read that HTC Camera APK is incompatible with Vanilla Android.
So I looked around to remedy these two problems that I have with the signal and camera and I figured that the best solution is to install this ROM on XDA called LolliGPE which is a Multi-carrier ROM that is based on GPE Lollipop and is mostly vanilla with some Sense apps (including the HTC Camera app).
However, reading the instructions, it has a prerequisite that is emphasized quite a bit throughout the thread:
A. Update your device to your carrier's 4.4.4 Firmware BEFORE flashing anything here. Google it.
So that's where it gets confusing for me (and I've spent a few hours "Googling it" and on XDA to try to figure out an approach).
*Which carrier's firmware do I flash (AT&T, the phone's intended carrier vs. T-Mobile, the carrier I'm subscribed to)?
I'm about 80% sure that it's T-Mobile's firmware that I need since I'll be using the phone with T-Mobile, but I need to make sure, and also need to know which one to flash since bricking this beautiful device would wreck my soul.
I've read that having S-off is pretty crucial to simplifying the process and I'm pretty glad to have paid for Sunshine, so I at least have that going for me.
So in conclusion, if anyone could guide me towards the right direction, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks for making it all the way down here, sorry for the wall of text!
If you used the 5.0.1 RUU that graffixnyc posted your FW is already up-to-date and on the right version. What you need to do is add the APN to the phone manually. Funny that Google didn't pre-load the US APNs into the ROM as (technically) the GPe M8 is US-only yet it has the UK APNs in it...
Thanks for the input Eddy! 5.0.1 did have APN's preloaded in it upon installment but I was getting really slow speeds with it, so I spent the next two hours after that trying a multitude of other APN's from all over the web and the best one I found netted me an average Down of about 7 Mbps.
If I'm at the latest firmware, can I proceed to installing LolliGPE then?
Also, I'm wondering if flashing T-Mobile specific radios will help me with the issues that I'm having
EDIT: Forgot to mention that I did use the 5.0.1 RUU from graffixnyc
You should be OK to flash the new ROM so long as it is based on the GPe build (due to partition sizes). Other than that I can't really comment as my 4G speeds were the same or better than when using Sense so didn't ever look into anything else
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You should be OK to flash the new ROM so long as it is based on the GPe build (due to partition sizes). Other than that I can't really comment as my 4G speeds were the same or better than when using Sense so didn't ever look into anything else
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I see, thanks for the help Eddy, you're the man!
If I were to update my firmware in the future, would I be updating to T-Mobile's (my carrier I'm subscribed to) or AT&T's, the phones original carrier?
As your phone is now GPe all updates are from HTC/Google and are nothing to do with your carrier
With the release of the M9, I've been considering trying to find a good condition used M8 for cheap(ish).
I'm no stranger to unlocking and modding a phone, but I'm having a hard time getting a handle on WiFi calling on this one. It seems like it kind of works on some mods but requires certain radio versions be flashed, and a lot of situations are solved by giving up and flashing a T-mo stock OS. Then there's the inclusion of WFC into Android as a stock feature at some unknown point in the future, maybe 4.1 but only on the Nexus 6 at first..?
So for those of you who actually already own the phones and have been playing around with them for awhile now, do you think it's even worth getting an unlocked/non-Tmo M8 if I need to have WiFi calling? Or is it better to just get a T-mo M8 to start with and deal with de-bloating it? And how bad do you think the bloat is in the first place?
Brew78 said:
With the release of the M9, I've been considering trying to find a good condition used M8 for cheap(ish).
I'm no stranger to unlocking and modding a phone, but I'm having a hard time getting a handle on WiFi calling on this one. It seems like it kind of works on some mods but requires certain radio versions be flashed, and a lot of situations are solved by giving up and flashing a T-mo stock OS. Then there's the inclusion of WFC into Android as a stock feature at some unknown point in the future, maybe 4.1 but only on the Nexus 6 at first..?
So for those of you who actually already own the phones and have been playing around with them for awhile now, do you think it's even worth getting an unlocked/non-Tmo M8 if I need to have WiFi calling? Or is it better to just get a T-mo M8 to start with and deal with de-bloating it? And how bad do you think the bloat is in the first place?
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For t-mobile wifi calling I believe you need to have the phone setup as a t-mobile phone. So if the phone is a non-t-mobile phone, you need to run a t-mobile ROM, which might include flash different firmware and setting other items. From what I know, the ROMS that have the t-mobile wifi calling in them used the t-mobile ROM as a based (but I could be wrong), and those that do not typically are other GSM based ROMS.
Remember that depending on your plan, you could just use google voice over 3g/4g or wifi also.
Kind of figured it was something like that, thanks. In the end, I actually wound up with a Moto X since they had that package deal with the headphones last week and I was in the market for a new set anyway. Guess I gotta do without Wi-Fi calling for now.
This user was able to get it to work, so you might try flashing this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-htc-one-m8/general/t-mobile-wifi-calling-t3058708
Hi Guys,
Can anyone recommend the most feature packed Note 7 ROM for my Note 4 Sprint carrier. I have Used Dr. Ketan Note 7 ROM. It's a very good ROM..
But the camera app isn't updated and after updating it doesn't work, the original Samsung keyboard doesn't work properly, there is no private mode in it & message app doesn't work either.
So looking for a Note 7 ROM that contains less bugs.
Thanks,
Asim
Ive been using Tx.dbs Ultimate Note 7 hybrid rom since it came out and have been completely happy with how it operates as a daily for me,everything pretty much works perfect for a note 7 rom on a note 4.:good:
asimwaqar said:
Hi Guys,
Can anyone recommend the most feature packed Note 7 ROM for my Note 4 Sprint carrier. I have Used Dr. Ketan Note 7 ROM. It's a very good ROM..
But the camera app isn't updated and after updating it doesn't work, the original Samsung keyboard doesn't work properly, there is no private mode in it & message app doesn't work either.
So looking for a Note 7 ROM that contains less bugs.
Thanks,
Asim
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If your using Sprint service, I agree with @JAMRZ69, the UN7 rom by tx_dbs_tx was made specifically for Sprint.
But feel free to try others to, as long as they have a sprint fix.
Also try to apply AlternateSmsMmsSendingFix_UN7_Hybrid_by.txdbstx to any of the roms you try, as it might help with sprint service. It's on his thread.
As far as private mode goes, i don't think any note7 ports have it. I could be wrong about this part though.
Thanks guys,
I will surely try this ROM and post my feedback.
BTW, is it just me or do you guys also feel that Sprint carrier phone has very less Custom ROMS compared to other variants..
Also lucky are those who have international variants because I've seen ROMs that have almost 0 bugs..
asimwaqar said:
Thanks guys,
I will surely try this ROM and post my feedback.
BTW, is it just me or do you guys also feel that Sprint carrier phone has very less Custom ROMS compared to other variants..
Also lucky are those who have international variants because I've seen ROMs that have almost 0 bugs..
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Yes, I can agree with that. I'm kinda lucky in that apect,as I'm unlocked using gsm service (cricket). So it's easier for me to get the other roms working.
To explain why, from what i understand as I'm not a sprint customer, but from what I've studied here. Sprint is one of the hardest carrier's to get working, as they have an extra layer of software to connect to their service, in a sense! Plus Also the predominant service, worldwide is GSM. So there are more GSM roms and it's easy to get a certain gsm rom to work with another gsm provider, and also it isnt super hard to get cdma roms to work with gsm. BUT it is difficult to get GSM roms to work with cdma, especially Sprint because of their setup.
Hope that gives you some insight! At least this is how i understand it!
Plus also, there were actually a lot of sprint roms, they're just older lollipop or not being further developed. This is because the device is aging and all the devs moved on to another device. That's why we must be grateful for the continued development of roms on this device from these great developers. Hopefully some young learning devs like me can keep it going. But I'm just am old dog learning new tricks!
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Yes, I can agree with that. I'm kinda lucky in that apect,as I'm unlocked using gsm service (cricket). So it's easier for me to get the other roms working.
To explain why, from what i understand as I'm not a sprint customer, but from what I've studied here. Sprint is one of the hardest carrier's to get working, as they have an extra layer of software to connect to their service, in a sense! Plus Also the predominant service, worldwide is GSM. So there are more GSM roms and it's easy to get a certain gsm rom to work with another gsm provider, and also it isnt super hard to get cdma roms to work with gsm. BUT it is difficult to get GSM roms to work with cdma, especially Sprint because of their setup.
Hope that gives you some insight! At least this is how i understand it!
Plus also, there were actually a lot of sprint roms, they're just older lollipop or not being further developed. This is because the device is aging and all the devs moved on to another device. That's why we must be grateful for the continued development of roms on this device from these great developers. Hopefully some young learning devs like me can keep it going. But I'm just am old dog learning new tricks!
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I am using an unlocked sprint phone myself.. Would that also allow me to flash custom ROMs which are for other GSM variants? If that's the case, then I can get hands on some really good ROMs.
asimwaqar said:
I am using an unlocked sprint phone myself.. Would that also allow me to flash custom ROMs which are for other GSM variants? If that's the case, then I can get hands on some really good ROMs.
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Yes, how it usually works is, you install the rom, then you need to install a separate kernel for your device (in most cases they'll suggest the Ram kernel), Then you'll need a data fix. Which usually can be found, or you make one.
If you try a rom and have trouble, I can try to help you with making a fix. They're pretty simple for gsm service. What I've found out is, to stick with installing sprint kernel, but since we use gsm, you can use a tmobile data fix most of the time.
aaron74 said:
Yes, how it usually works is, you install the rom, then you need to install a separate kernel for your device (in most cases they'll suggest the Ram kernel), Then you'll need a data fix. Which usually can be found, or you make one.
If you try a rom and have trouble, I can try to help you with making a fix. They're pretty simple for gsm service. What I've found out is, to stick with installing sprint kernel, but since we use gsm, you can use a tmobile data fix most of the time.
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Thank you so much for making this easy for me, because I was only searching for Sprint ROMs.
Now that I know I can install any CUSTOM ROM on my unlocked SPRINT NOTE 4. Can you recommend me any good ROM?
Asim Waqar said:
Thank you so much for making this easy for me, because I was only searching for Sprint ROMs.
Now that I know I can install any CUSTOM ROM on my unlocked SPRINT NOTE 4. Can you recommend me any good ROM?
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Omg, there are so many options. It's hard for me to say. I have a few post on Sprint section, giving my opinion, explaining some different roms. But it was just comparing newer Sprint roms. When you bring in the international thread, there's just so many options. And all of them are good. Its gonna come down to what works for you. Browse some of the current work going on, and try one. If you don't like after a trial run, try another. If anything, it'll give you xp flashing your device.
But just to name ones that I've actually had running, here's a list in no particular order:
Enhanced
Norma
Nemesis
Dr Keaton
Nameless
Auroa
Emotion
Resurrection
Lineage
Just off the top of my head. That's not counting the ones one the Sprint thread like, UN7 and Dtux.
Read, do some research, look at screenshots and pick one.
Once you pick one and if have trouble getting going with data fix. Let me know I'll try help!
Happy flashing!
Remember, it has to be a Snapdragon Rom.
im curious if anyone has found a nice rom to put on the N4, I just got a replacement the other day and im hoping to load something fun onto it. It came with marshmallow 6.0.1...
the last thing i had was UN5 running, im a little afraid to try UN7 knowing that development has stopped for it..