Still worth it? - Ouya Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys,
I'm thinking about getting a ouya so I can use it to play android games/watch videos on my tv with it (and I will install cm11 on it) I can get a ouya for 70 euros , but here is the problem I have a pretty old TV and yes it doesn't have HDMI... Can I use a HDMI to VGA converter for it? If not I can use my parents' TV
Is it still worth it ( worth 70 Euros?)
Thanks,
Noahvt
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Weather it is worth it or not is up to you...but I can confirm that you can use an HDMI to VGA adapter with no problems. I'm doing that exact thing with my Ouya and an older computer monitor.

PodCulture said:
Weather it is worth it or not is up to you...but I can confirm that you can use an HDMI to VGA adapter with no problems. I'm doing that exact thing with my Ouya and an older computer monitor.
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Well I found out that my country only sells the 1st ouya model ever made :/ I went to the ouya EU shop and found out that the ouya 16gb hasn't been in stock for a while the 8gb version on the website looks interesting too but is it the newer version too? It has the ouya logo on top of the power button
http://eushop.ouya.tv/products/ouya-console
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Fairly certain that is just the regular 8gb model. The logo is prob not printed on...prob supposed to represent the unit being powered on since it does light up. The only variants I know of are the 16gb ones (a white and a black one) other than storage...same hardware.
noahvt said:
Well I found out that my country only sells the 1st ouya model ever made :/ I went to the ouya EU shop and found out that the ouya 16gb hasn't been in stock for a while the 8gb version on the website looks interesting too but is it the newer version too? It has the ouya logo on top of the power button
http://eushop.ouya.tv/products/ouya-console
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noahvt said:
Well I found out that my country only sells the 1st ouya model ever made :/ I went to the ouya EU shop and found out that the ouya 16gb hasn't been in stock for a while the 8gb version on the website looks interesting too but is it the newer version too? It has the ouya logo on top of the power button
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There is a newer version than that with an additional antenna. I don't know where you are located but if you have access to amazon they have both for sale. The newer one is $10 more in the us.

ajb999 said:
There is a newer version than that with an additional antenna. I don't know where you are located but if you have access to amazon they have both for sale. The newer one is $10 more in the us.
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I see! i live in belgium and amazon will ship to europe and the new ones are still in stock

noahvt said:
I see! i live in belgium and amazon will ship to europe and the new ones are still in stock
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Cool. Make sure to get the anthracite version. It's worth the few extra bucks.

noahvt said:
Hi guys,
I'm thinking about getting a ouya so I can use it to play android games/watch videos on my tv with it (and I will install cm11 on it) I can get a ouya for 70 euros , but here is the problem I have a pretty old TV and yes it doesn't have HDMI... Can I use a HDMI to VGA converter for it? If not I can use my parents' TV
Is it still worth it ( worth 70 Euros?)
Thanks,
Noahvt
Sent from my Xperia SP using XDA Free mobile app
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I'm not sure if I'd buy one one at this point, I have one and I've been trying to figure out how to get a custom recovery on it, I do have the latest firmware on it (chupacabra + hotfix) which is not allowing me to install cwm.... So I can't install CM11 on it. I'm going to try changing the build prop and hopefully it allows me to flash cwm to it.
If I didn't buy the Ouya or Amazon Fire Tv, I'd look at G Box MX2.

Is it worth it today? Only if you want Ouya games, through the Ouya store. There are much better options these days - Tegra 3 and 1GB RAM is severely outdated at this point. Not that there aren't a lot of things to do with the Ouya, but it's tablet shopping and picking up a Galaxy Tab 2 or something.

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Slingplayer for tablets on sale

Just wanted to let everyone know that Slingplayer for tablets is half off. Regularly priced 29.99, now priced at 14.99. Looks great on my Nexus 7 and Xoom. Quality and controls way better than the phone version. Good way to spend some of your 25.00 Google Play dough.
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I really need to bite the bullet and buy a Sling box. I watch only 3 channels though :silly:
Definitely worth it if you love sports. NHL package on the go
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Sling player for phones crashes/hangs on the nexus 7 here...
If your in uk, checkout tvcatchup beta apk http://tvcatchup.com/android.html
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Dish (which owns sling now) dropped AMC so I won't buy this. Even at $15 it seems too much, on top of this I read elsewhere that its restricted to one device. Can't be installed other Andoid devices.
wtek said:
Dish (which owns sling now) dropped AMC so I won't buy this. Even at $15 it seems too much, on top of this I read elsewhere that its restricted to one device. Can't be installed other Andoid devices.
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I can't speak for the Tablet version, but I have the Phone version installed on multiple Android devices.
Cheers,
Kermee
Kermee said:
I can't speak for the Tablet version, but I have the Phone version installed on multiple Android devices.
Cheers,
Kermee
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What you can't do is watch on multiple devices simultaneously. No other restrictions at least AFAIK.
The tablet version works very nicely on my new Nexus. But I'm glad for the Play Store credit + sale.
I hate that I've already payed for my SlingBox and still have to pay for an app. An expensive one at that.
lfeuln said:
What you can't do is watch on multiple devices simultaneously. No other restrictions at least AFAIK.
The tablet version works very nicely on my new Nexus. But I'm glad for the Play Store credit + sale.
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Ah. Gotcha. -- I only have a single SlingBox PRO-HD so I never ran into a condition trying to use the application on multiple devices simultaneously.
I just purchased the Tablet version too with the Play Store Credit. Works great on the N7!
Cheers,
Kermee
Glad I got my Slingbox for FREE!!! I haven't used it in months, but I may have to try it out again. I'm usually always home, so I don't need to use it much...I might even actually buy the app for $15, I didn't buy it at $30...haha

SlimPort adapters

Anybody have one or planning on getting one? I'm kinda bummed I'll have to get another one (already have MHL) dumb competing standards. The few available on Amazon seem overpriced (in the $30 range) for a chunk of plastic and some wire.
Buy the one from analogix. That is the official one and it does cost $30. It is pricy when compared to regular MHL adaptors, but its worth it if you plan on using it.
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I can confirm that the slimport in the link below works perfectly with the new nexus 7, including 1080p video and audio output http://www.amazon.com/SlimPort®-SP1...4962024&sr=8-1&keywords=slimport+hdmi+adapter
Won't a chromecast work? And only 5 more dollars. Sorry if I'm wrong. Its happened many times lol.
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moz90 said:
Won't a chromecast work? And only 5 more dollars. Sorry if I'm wrong. Its happened many times lol.
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What the cable gets you that the chromecast doesn't is direct streaming of content. chromecast does not currently support file playback through gallery. All direct streaming from the device (not from the internet) is "beta"
So say you want to play an MP4 file, you'd need this
Nuckin said:
What the cable gets you that the chromecast doesn't is direct streaming of content. chromecast does not currently support file playback through gallery. All direct streaming from the device (not from the internet) is "beta"
So say you want to play an MP4 file, you'd need this
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I can use this to play my droid games on the tv screen then?
LauraSakura said:
I can use this to play my droid games on the tv screen then?
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Absolutely. I use slim port with a ps3 controller and six axis app to do just that.
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Nuckin said:
What the cable gets you that the chromecast doesn't is direct streaming of content. chromecast does not currently support file playback through gallery. All direct streaming from the device (not from the internet) is "beta"
So say you want to play an MP4 file, you'd need this
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So will you be able to use chromecast at some point for everything?
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moz90 said:
So will you be able to use chromecast at some point for everything?
Sent from my nexus 7 2nd gen
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Probably not but I suspect playing local content from your phone will but added soon but that's just a guess, games prob not due to lag and graphical limitations
i debate turning back to wires like this when i do enjoy what my chromecast does while also having hopes for the wireless display option to be 1:1 for all functions
I didn't even notice the port was not MHL. What nincompoop opted to go with this rather than MHL? Maybe I don't know something I should here, but hasn't MHL been around for a couple years now? And is there anything allegedly superior about slimport that would make it desirable over MHL?
This is just a little disappointing to me because both of my Samsung phones use MHL and at this point my backpack is already the subject of Guantanamo style field stripping every time I fly international.
earlymorninghours said:
I didn't even notice the port was not MHL. What nincompoop opted to go with this rather than MHL? Maybe I don't know something I should here, but hasn't MHL been around for a couple years now? And is there anything allegedly superior about slimport that would make it desirable over MHL?
This is just a little disappointing to me because both of my Samsung phones use MHL and at this point my backpack is already the subject of Guantanamo style field stripping every time I fly international.
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Since its Nexus line, Google would follow what they did with the N4. Why don't you just check it?
MyDP (SlimPort) adapters are appearing on eBay for less than $20USD which I think is pretty good value. SlimPort has some clear advantages over MHL (scaling/no need to have charger plugged in etc).
Examples:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Slimport-My...998?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a834e9746
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Slimport-My...614?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e7ca7a1de
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MYDP-SlimPo...=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3cd3ea9ea3
ritzxda said:
MyDP (SlimPort) adapters are appearing on eBay for less than $20USD which I think is pretty good value. SlimPort has some clear advantages over MHL (scaling/no need to have charger plugged in etc).
Examples:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Slimport-My...998?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a834e9746
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Slimport-My...614?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e7ca7a1de
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MYDP-SlimPo...=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3cd3ea9ea3
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Thats because they are shipping direct from China....
Oleschuldad said:
Thats because they are shipping direct from China....
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Yes and? Sorry not being rude but don't see the point. I just thought I'd let people know they can get them shipped world wide for a pretty good price now. Not all of us live in America. Thanks.
ritzxda said:
Yes and? Sorry not being rude but don't see the point. I just thought I'd let people know they can get them shipped world wide for a pretty good price now. Not all of us live in America. Thanks.
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not busting on you...just clarifying why they are so cheap... kinda like buying from Meritline... cheap prices, just have to wait awhile cuz its shipping from China is all...
Oleschuldad said:
not busting on you...just clarifying why they are so cheap... kinda like buying from Meritline... cheap prices, just have to wait awhile cuz its shipping from China is all...
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Haha no worries. That's true. It will take a long time to arrive. They've just been really hard to get even through Asia so just thought I'd let people know since I came across them. Thanks.
I'm looking for one too. Even the one on ebay cost around $20 from china. Not counting waiting for over a month for it. Bought more than a few items from china, and only about 50% of them ever work.
Just be careful with the non analogical brand slimport adaptors. People from the N4 were having problems with certain ones. You can check in the N4 accessories thread as there is more information about them there.
I can confirm that the official one works perfect.
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Got the 30$ analogix one and tried it out last night.. works great on the new N7!

Miracast with CM11?

I see the option for cast to screen for CM 11. Will this work for Miracast?
If so is this a good one to get?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-HI763-W...899?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item259040a62b
I've never got cast to work properly with cm11 or any custom rom. Only stock. Using an android box with miracast receiver. Let us know if you have success. Oh mine was keedox android box think i picked it up less than 50 bucks.
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Oh so the cast doesn't work? I'd rather not waste 20 bucks if it's not going to work lol
Not saying it doesn't. Just my experience. Ive not tried a new cm11 build in awhile. Maybe others will chime in with positive outcomes.
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Just loaded aicp newest ROM. Cast worked fine. No reason cm11 wouldn't. My bad.
Well just worried I heard chromecast just added the option to mirror my friend gave me a chromecast and I've been using it. I updated the app to the newest software and no cast for the phone.
chaosdemon06 said:
Well just worried I heard chromecast just added the option to mirror my friend gave me a chromecast and I've been using it. I updated the app to the newest software and no cast for the phone.
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It only works on certain phones for now like note 3 galaxy 4 and 5 nexus 4 and 5 and some others. I know it Sucks.
I guess I'll just wait it out. Hopefully they will add our g pro..or someone finds a work around ^^
chaosdemon06 said:
I guess I'll just wait it out. Hopefully they will add our g pro..or someone finds a work around ^^
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Actually this thread here makes chromecast mirroring work for any device (most devices) works fine with lg g pro.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/har...experimental-enable-mirroring-device-t2812193
Well I'm installing the newest nightly to see if that helps too. Right now it's crashing when trying to cast. At least it shows it now
Went ahead and bought the one listed in the original post. I won it for 18 bucks. Pick had to use 16 in ebay bucks in 3 days or lose them so only really had to pay like 2 bucks for it. Hopefully I"ll be able to mirror with this. I'm really surprised no one with CM 11 as bought a miracast doggle before.
chaosdemon06 said:
Went ahead and bought the one listed in the original post. I won it for 18 bucks. Pick had to use 16 in ebay bucks in 3 days or lose them so only really had to pay like 2 bucks for it. Hopefully I"ll be able to mirror with this. I'm really surprised no one with CM 11 as bought a miracast doggle before.
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Happy to report it does work! There's a little lag though sometimes. Wonder if the doggle needs a update.
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Happy to report it does work! There's a little lag though sometimes. Wonder if the doggle needs a update.
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Can you provide additional info on how this particular dongle worked for you? I have just gotten into Miracast, and am looking at dongles etc. I have looked at Netgear's Push2TV and Actiontec Screenbeam Pro. I was very skeptical about these smaller manufacturer dongle...so I would appreciate your input on this dongle you bought.
BTW, just remember that as far as Laptops/Computers go the computer HARDWARE must be Intel certified for Widi to work, even though Windows 8.1 has Miracast SOFTWARE. So for now I am stuck using only my phone/tablet natively.
Thanks for any feedback!
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Can you provide additional info on how this particular dongle worked for you? I have just gotten into Miracast, and am looking at dongles etc. I have looked at Netgear's Push2TV and Actiontec Screenbeam Pro. I was very skeptical about these smaller manufacturer dongle...so I would appreciate your input on this dongle you bought.
BTW, just remember that as far as Laptops/Computers go the computer HARDWARE must be Intel certified for Widi to work, even though Windows 8.1 has Miracast SOFTWARE. So for now I am stuck using only my phone/tablet natively.
Thanks for any feedback!
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Well it worked if I was on the same wifi even though it didn't need the net to be on in order to work. Since the chrome cast option came out I didn't really worry about using the miraicast anymore but wanted to try it out. I'm sure it will work even better with a higher priced miricast doggle but ya again it works but for hotel wise I just went with my android doggle it always plays anything perfectly fine and it entertained all of my gf and Is roommates a ton.

[Q] Ordered Amazon Fire TV - Some questions

Hi,
im getting one of these next week (release date here in UK)
main reason is to load it with XBMC and use some of the many great addons like navi-x
I also would like it to replace my WD HDTV Live but im not sure it is capable of handling 3TB+ HDD. I know you can root and install stickmount app but does it handle large HDD well?
Not sure what other good stuff i can do with it, i have read you can use the PS4 controller + use emulators but what else good can it be used for?
Thanks
DEREKTROTTER said:
Hi,
im getting one of these next week (release date here in UK)
main reason is to load it with XBMC and use some of the many great addons like navi-x
I also would like it to replace my WD HDTV Live but im not sure it is capable of handling 3TB+ HDD. I know you can root and install stickmount app but does it handle large HDD well?
Not sure what other good stuff i can do with it, i have read you can use the PS4 controller + use emulators but what else good can it be used for?
Thanks
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If you are getting a UK unit its going to have 51.1.3.0 which is currently not rootable.
****, i read that the latest version of AFTV cant be rooted, is this correct? If so the UK version probably cant be rooted either :/
edit: lol posted this at the same time ^
looks like im gonna have to get one imported
$125 averaging on ebay + $40 shipping/import charges
gonna go for it

thinking of getting an aftv

hi all,
currently live in uk and thinking of getting an aftv to replace my ageing shuttle htpc
the main use will be for xbmc but ive been reading through some posts and just want to confirm i can install this easily as rooting seems to be getting blocked.?
also, what are your thoughts about purchasing an aftv over another android box
thanks
ratski said:
hi all,
currently live in uk and thinking of getting an aftv to replace my ageing shuttle htpc
the main use will be for xbmc but ive been reading through some posts and just want to confirm i can install this easily as rooting seems to be getting blocked.?
also, what are your thoughts about purchasing an aftv over another android box
thanks
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I have no regrets whatsoever about purchasing my aftv, and my main use for it is xbmc/kodi as well. It plays everything I throw at it just fine. There are some limitations when playing certain rips, but the technicality of all that is beyond me and again I have yet to have any media that wouldn't play just fine.
I don't think anything is different in the UK as far as sideloading apps. Sideloading should be easily accomplished with one the community utilities here on XDA, or just by using ADB. I remember reading something a while ago about XBMC/Kodi not installing on aftv's outside the US, but I believe that has since been resolved....found it - http://www.aftvnews.com/xbmc-kodi-incompatible-with-fire-tv-software-version-51-1-40_user_514005520/.
My next htpc/android type box will most likely be a Chromebox mainly for the options to upgrade memory as well as dualboot options that are out there. I personally have no real desire for android apps on my tv, other than root specific apps. Right now aftv's are going on sale all the time, and the only reason I haven't gotten another is I picked up two Fire Sticks over the holiday and am holding out for a Chromebox build.
I am in the UK as well. XBMC works fine on it. However the UK Fire TV cannot be rooted. This means you cannot access media through the USB port. So it depends on where you store your files, the Fire TV is fine with network storage, but (without root) useless with an external drive.
It's a shame Amazon is clamping down on the fire tv's hackability. Otherwise it's a nice little box, very fast, bluetooth remote, wired network, optical audio out.
thanks for the replies.
my main use is xbmc, which definately looks like it can be sideloaded in uk without a problem so thats good news.
shame about usb media as have a few movies on my ext hard drive but i suppose nas storage is the way to go now days so maybe excuse to upgrade#
ill pick up an aftv in next few days then and look to find the latest guide for xbmc install, cheers
ratski said:
thanks for the replies.
my main use is xbmc, which definately looks like it can be sideloaded in uk without a problem so thats good news.
shame about usb media as have a few movies on my ext hard drive but i suppose nas storage is the way to go now days so maybe excuse to upgrade#
ill pick up an aftv in next few days then and look to find the latest guide for xbmc install, cheers
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buy it from the US. you get rootable ones here. still
have one
picked up a stick for my old man and side loaded xmbc on it he enjoys it may pick up the game controller for some android and emulator games. none of these functions need root. as for usb storage it was never really meant for that anyways it was built as a hd video player to compete with roku and chromecast it just happens to do more. i many picked it up for wwe app as well due to his smart blueray player being to old for that app.
Some people will disagree but it would have to be rootable for me to buy another one. People complain about low memory issues but I've never experience that because I can store thumbnails on external. That's really my main reason for the hdd since I play my movies & tv from a nas device.
Maybe someone who owns one can say why not but if your going to get one without root--why not save some money & buy a fire tv stick?
navigates said:
buy it from the US. you get rootable ones here. still
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Not if you buy it from Amazon you wont. I just bought a second one and it shipped with the latest version of firmware.
You can probably find one at a big box store tho.
Frankly for me, the AFTV was my best purchase in a long time.
Before I got the box, i was running a massive Athlon 955 PC, watercooled, in a huge Antec case. It was still noisy, bulky (and my toddler loved poking it every chance she could get). I was running it just for XBMC, and didn't really have a good setup for accessing other content. The machine was falling apart, and while shopping for a new media PC, i ran across this box, and that it could support XBMC, along with native apps for amazon, netflix, and hulu...
Where i am getting.. a $75 (85 if you include the Nyko game pad) frankly handles XBMC better than the PC, and i don't have to do ridiculous crap to try to get Hulu and Netflix to integrate. It has played all my media perfectly, and the addition of some basic gaming is a real bonus. Keep in mind, most of the benefits are available without rooting.. you can still sideload apps, , you just cant change your launcher, etc.... If you are interested, give it a shot.
So purchased today :good:
Before I plug in and setup should I try and follow a guide to root by blocking updates or am I already screwed as from the uk (got it from a retail currys store)
It's a shame it looks like I won't be able to stream via usb but my main use is xbmc so to be honest I think I may just plug in and figure out how to side load as I'm not as clued up as some in here
MadFlava said:
Not if you buy it from Amazon you wont. I just bought a second one and it shipped with the latest version of firmware.
You can probably find one at a big box store tho.
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Well it depends from where are you picking up your stock from Amazon. I'm in LA and till date I have yet to see a non rootable version come through. I just did a friends who's firetv arrived on Thursday and it was purchased on prime on Tuesday. Infact it was the sweet first version which is an easy way up. I've also seen flavors where you have to put the rom in the sdcard instead of cache and or another flavor where the version is not the first where you have to downgrade to go up. The latest version needed a chmod 777 to be added as the file copy to folder was denied.
Essentially you still get rootable ones from amazon. I suggest if you have friends in LA and or the west coast, I suggest get it shipped there and then have them ship it out to you. Just trying to help.
navigates said:
Well it depends from where are you picking up your stock from Amazon. I'm in LA and till date I have yet to see a non rootable version come through. I just did a friends who's firetv arrived on Thursday and it was purchased on prime on Tuesday. Infact it was the sweet first version which is an easy way up. I've also seen flavors where you have to put the rom in the sdcard instead of cache and or another flavor where the version is not the first where you have to downgrade to go up. The latest version needed a chmod 777 to be added as the file copy to folder was denied.
Essentially you still get rootable ones from amazon. I suggest if you have friends in LA and or the west coast, I suggest get it shipped there and then have them ship it out to you. Just trying to help.
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Glad there are still a few in the system. I think at this point Id be buying them from a big box store. I have one rooted and one that cant be rooted. Thankfully the non rootable is just the kid's unit so its not THAT big a deal.
MadFlava said:
Not if you buy it from Amazon you wont. I just bought a second one and it shipped with the latest version of firmware.
You can probably find one at a big box store tho.
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MadFlava said:
Glad there are still a few in the system. I think at this point Id be buying them from a big box store. I have one rooted and one that cant be rooted. Thankfully the non rootable is just the kid's unit so its not THAT big a deal.
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Not sure which bigbox still carry's the firetv. In LA I couldn't find them at staples or bestbuy. bestbuy used to carry it when it was launched. but I agree the big box stores would most likely have the old stock. I too have one non rooted one for my parents. but I'm gonna switch them out too for the rooted one.
navigates said:
Not sure which bigbox still carry's the firetv. In LA I couldn't find them at staples or bestbuy. bestbuy used to carry it when it was launched. but I agree the big box stores would most likely have the old stock. I too have one non rooted one for my parents. but I'm gonna switch them out too for the rooted one.
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Ive seen them at Best Buy and Staples but thats on the east coast.....
The BB in Culver city has loads of AFTV and the fire sticks. In NYC at the minute and 5th Ave and Astoria have AFTV but no sticks.
I picked up another one at Staples as a gift for my dad. It was rootable so Im keeping it and giving him the non rootable one. He doesnt need root and I think would prefer the simplicity of the Amazon launcher.

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