What does this truely mean. I just rooted via ODIN and my flag was tripped 0x1, does the flag geg tripped regardless if you root or install custom roms ?
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Seriously, there are tons of threads on this. You didn't do any research before rooting your phone?
Once tripped it can't be reset. If you planned on flashing roms, there it's no way around reporting the Knox flag. Now that you have already tripped it, you can't go back.
Whether or not it will effect you depends on how you use your phone, software out hardware issues you may have and if you try to get warrantee repair. For many it it's not a big deal.
I did do my research Im just asking a question maybe there was an update on how to change the void but obviously kot . Thanks anyway. Dont get all hyped thats what xda is for
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Hi, I got my note 3 recently and all i have done is just root my note 3 so far. but i have been doing some readings. from what i had found is Knox is a software on your phone, i am guessing and this is just a guess if you use the bloatware remover it might delete the knox program and files from your phone. It might trigger a reset on the counter. I remember reading the list of files it deletes, and it delete all of knox files and folder and a bunch of other stuff but you can edit the script to make it only delete the knox. It might delete the counter or reset it. And you can just reinstall it back and see if the counter is back at 0. remember i am just taking a guess here, does any 1 think this might work?
You cannot reset the Knox flag once it had been tripped.
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Hi, I got my note 3 recently and all i have done is just root my note 3 so far. but i have been doing some readings. from what i had found is Knox is a software on your phone, i am guessing and this is just a guess if you use the bloatware remover it might delete the knox program and files from your phone. It might trigger a reset on the counter. I remember reading the list of files it deletes, and it delete all of knox files and folder and a bunch of other stuff but you can edit the script to make it only delete the knox. It might delete the counter or reset it. And you can just reinstall it back and see if the counter is back at 0. remember i am just taking a guess here, does any 1 think this might work?
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Try that and you might blow the efuse they have with removing Knox.
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wow didn't know that
megaearth77 said:
wow didn't know that
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It what chain fire was afraid of and reason why triangle away won't work
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krelvinaz said:
Seriously, there are tons of threads on this. You didn't do any research before rooting your phone?
Once tripped it can't be reset. If you planned on flashing roms, there it's no way around reporting the Knox flag. Now that you have already tripped it, you can't go back.
Whether or not it will effect you depends on how you use your phone, software out hardware issues you may have and if you try to get warrantee repair. For many it it's not a big deal.
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So rude all that extra was not really needed on do your research. You were probably once new to something too
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BACARDILIMON said:
Try that and you might blow the efuse they have with removing Knox.
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By just deleting Knox? Pretty sure lots of us have removed it by now and not blown any fuse. I deleted it right out of the box and my phone works just fine...
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Kalm_Traveler said:
By just deleting Knox? Pretty sure lots of us have removed it by now and not blown any fuse. I deleted it right out of the box and my phone works just fine...
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You didn't delete Knox fully or it would not have the counter. Trust me chain fire tried with no success. He has been one of the pioneers in getting things done and could not.
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Can someone explain to me what Knox does and why it get's "tripped"?
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You didn't delete Knox fully or it would not have the counter. Trust me chain fire tried with no success. He has been one of the pioneers in getting things done and could not.
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I was referring to what I quoted you saying about blowing an e-fuse by removing Knox. I'm not talking about the check component in the bootloader or wherever it's stored - just the software components that are very easily removable, and do not seem to have caused any adverse effects (aside from the arguably undesired Knox 0x1 flag).
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dinggus said:
Can someone explain to me what Knox does and why it get's "tripped"?
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It's a component Samsung decided to build into their new phones and Android builds that is allegedly supposed to be helpful for device security, especially when used with a corporate mobile device system.
Currently, if you flash a phone that has Knox installed with non-factory ROM, Recovery software, etc an at-bootup counter is "permanently" tripped indicating that the device has been tampered with.
I put that word in quotes because we all know with enough time and resources someone will surely figure out a way to reset that counter, if not remove it altogether.
SHORT VERSION: it's a piece of garbage that Samsung and Tmo can use to not uphold your warranty (since it technically voids the entire warranty if you flash custom stuff).
Kalm_Traveler said:
It's a component Samsung decided to build into their new phones and Android builds that is allegedly supposed to be helpful for device security, especially when used with a corporate mobile device system.
Currently, if you flash a phone that has Knox installed with non-factory ROM, Recovery software, etc an at-bootup counter is "permanently" tripped indicating that the device has been tampered with.
I put that word in quotes because we all know with enough time and resources someone will surely figure out a way to reset that counter, if not remove it altogether.
SHORT VERSION: it's a piece of garbage that Samsung and Tmo can use to not uphold your warranty (since it technically voids the entire warranty if you flash custom stuff).
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Guess I'll stay away from Samsung devices then. If I could get a Note 3 that has the camera features and S-Pen, I'd be happy.
Interesting, i got a few question i want to ask. I root my t mobile note 3 recently using the new method that don't trip the knox counter. And i install several apps that require root access. I know if you install custom rom it will trigger the knox, but i won't on my and its still stock at 4.3. My Question is what about apps that require root access? I got ES file explorer, es task manager, game guardian, cachemate for root users free, cpu tuner, and titanium backup, does those trigger the knox? And is efuse short for eletronic fuse? if it is, can't you just replace it to undo the knox?
Apps don't trigger the Knox flag, flashing a kernel roms etc do. Efuse is in the snapdragon processor.
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I was referring to what I quoted you saying about blowing an e-fuse by removing Knox. I'm not talking about the check component in the bootloader or wherever it's stored - just the software components that are very easily removable, and do not seem to have caused any adverse effects (aside from the arguably undesired Knox 0x1 flag).
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It's a component Samsung decided to build into their new phones and Android builds that is allegedly supposed to be helpful for device security, especially when used with a corporate mobile device system.
Currently, if you flash a phone that has Knox installed with non-factory ROM, Recovery software, etc an at-bootup counter is "permanently" tripped indicating that the device has been tampered with.
I put that word in quotes because we all know with enough time and resources someone will surely figure out a way to reset that counter, if not remove it altogether.
SHORT VERSION: it's a piece of garbage that Samsung and Tmo can use to not uphold your warranty (since it technically voids the entire warranty if you flash custom stuff).
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It voids Samsung warranty not TMOBILE. So ur good for 1 year
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Yes, Knox is Samsung thing, T-mo has nothing to do with it and some people already suggested, T-mo doesn't even check Knox flag for replacements etc, at least so far. I asked here before if it's e-fuse and got different answers, so I ask again : are we sure it's e-fuse or we just speculating? The reason is, there was a guy in international forum claiming Samsung reset his Knox flag, which would be not possible with e-fuse. BTW I just updated my old GS3 to 4.3 and it added Knox to it, so I got mad and rooted it to just to delete this stupid Knox, so now how do I check that flag on it? It says custom because is rooted, but where is the Knox flag?
You see the Knox setting when you put your phone in download mode.
As for resetting the Knox flag, I've not seen a confined resetting of it or better said, if it can be done, no one outside of Samsung has been able to do it and prove they have.
So I've been searching around and have not found out the answer to these questions... I'm assuming the answer is "Yes" to the first but want to confirm:
If the KNOX flag is tripped, the KNOX software will no longer work. Ever (assuming we never get a 0x0 reset). Correct?
Now for the next question, assuming "No":
If I use the RDLV to root without tripping KNOX, will the KNOX software still work?
I ask because my company does have MDM and supports KNOX and I may want to use it in the future.
Just got two T-Mobile Note 3's and want to root them as I did our Verizon Note 2's.
Was watching the XDA video on using the chainfire method (which I used to root my Note
tablet) and it looks like the way to go.
That video came out in Oct of 2013. The little owners manual thingie that came
with the phones states that any "If unauthorized firmware is placed on the device it will not
work."
Question: Does anyone know if Samsung has buggered up the phone since October
so that the root no longer works, or am I still good to go?
Thanks!
dal71 said:
Just got two T-Mobile Note 3's and want to root them as I did our Verizon Note 2's.
Was watching the XDA video on using the chainfire method (which I used to root my Note
tablet) and it looks like the way to go.
That video came out in Oct of 2013. The little owners manual thingie that came
with the phones states that any "If unauthorized firmware is placed on the device it will not
work."
Question: Does anyone know if Samsung has buggered up the phone since October
so that the root no longer works, or am I still good to go?
Thanks!
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You can root a couple different ways. It depends on if you want to trip Knox or not.
I literally just used chainfires auto-root via Odin and it worked fine
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You can root a couple different ways. It depends on if you want to trip Knox or not.
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Thanks for the response, but I'll admit to being enough of a newbie not to know what you mean by trip Knox?
Knox is new Samsung secure environment, if you start flashing ROMS etc it will trip Knox flag which no one knows how to reset, if it ever can be reset. Samsung can and did refuse any warranty repairs if the Knox flag is tripped. As far as rooting goes if your firmware is below MJ7 I think, you won't trip the flag, if it's MJ7 and above the flag will be tripped I think. For example I have MI7 (last 3 digits of FW build) so I can root, without setting flag. Anyhow, I would suggest you read and learn as much as you can here, before you do something you can't undo.
I really wanted to wait until the 4.4.2 Kitkat update before I root.... but I can't wait.
I think I will cave in and get root this weekend!
Hi,
I updated my Samsung galaxy note 2 N7105 for firmware 4.3 and I found that my Know was was and also the home screen changed to hot air balloon image, Then I tried rooting the phone but was not successful. Therefore I again flashed the firmware with 4.3 but this time the home screen wallpaper returned back to original one and Knox is not working and saying your device is not authorised to use Knox.
I really liked the Knox feature, Can someone help me how to restore back the phone so that I can use Knox again.
Thanks
Wtf?
Do you even know what knox is for and it's "features"?
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If you root and trigger the Knox flag(0x1) you're device has Knox warranty void. This means Samsung will not support a broken Knox problem.
paposa said:
Wtf?
Do you even know what knox is for and it's "features"?
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Hi,
Yes I have used Knox before. Yes you are right and I have read about 0x1 binary counter, but the question is there any way to reset this counter so that one can reuse Knox ?
I am apparently one of 3 people who actually use Knox... Is there a way to get root without tripping the Knox counter? There are two methods listed in the One-Stop Shop thread, but it looks like both of them disable Knox. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated!
Edit: Forgot to mention that I am on the latest AT&T OTA (MK6). I have flashed plenty of times before, just trying to keep Knox on this phone since it is fresh from warranty service.
Delete.....
I'm gonna go out on a limb here...and say that the root binary...will be detected by knox....even if the root attempt does not trip the counter...
The rom will detect root and flag you constantly...
And here is the bigger problem in my mind...
If you manage to root...without tripping the knox counter...and you use the device normally...
If/when the day comes you need service....the bootloader flash counter will still show a custom binary flash count even though knox does not...and if you attempt to unroot....you will never be able to return to full stock with the official 4.3 loader....(gasping for air )...LOL
Long story short...
Root and Knox do not get along...and your warranty will be gone even if Knox and it's container remain intact...
Leave it stock...IMHO...g
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how can i reset knox counter for Samsung Note 2
please help
I don't think it can be done for the note 2.
It doesn't affect anything unless you need warranty service.
You can reset counter if only you're on stock ROM, recovery and maybe even stock kernel. Then use TriangleAway to reset it .
BTW I haven't done it in note 2, but I have done it in my note 8.0 so it might not work (even note 2 listed as supported device by TriangleAway)
Doesn't triangle away just reset the flash counter?
They're just different name and have the same meaning
I recall using Triangle away on my s3, s4, and note 2 (all were Canadian models) but Knox was still at 1.
It may behave differently on the international note 2.
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Doesn't triangle away just reset the flash counter?
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yes it does. But it's not recommended unless necessary, comparing the risk of getting your phone bricked.
Knox and the flash counter are not the same thing afaik.
I have used triangle away but don't use it anymore as I found it unnecessary for flashing roms.
Actually, flash counter is name for old devices like note 2 and below, while Knox counter is name for new device like note 3 and above (that's why note 3 doesn't support TriangleAway)
And we have to use a kernel that support it, like Agni kernel on stock rom (that's what op said).