[Q] Trying to match Yahoo Weather exactly - Zooper Widget General

All,
I've been spending a bunch of time trying to get my icons to match Yahoo (using yahoo for my data as well). Ultimately I want my widget to open yahoo weather with certain clicks and I just want everything to be cohesive in look.
So far, I was able to extract all the icons from the yahoo weather apk, and i generally have them working. However, I've noticed that Yahoo actually has many more than 16 weather types. This seems to be causing me all sorts of inconsistencies in terms of what is shown on my widget versus what is shown in the app, specifically in future forecasts for the days ahead. For example, the app shows the next 6 days as scattered thunderstorms (its florida after all). But, my widget is showing them all as full thunderstorms (different icon than the app). I can somewhat "fix" this by mapping them to scattered, but that would just break the ones who truly should be mapped to thunderstorms.
The other problem I'm having is that the future days (once its past sunset) are all changing to nightime icons instead of being locked to day versions (as it is in the app).
Anyone have experience in trying to get everything consistent? Whats the best way to address it? And, is it possible to map the full list of Yahoo data instead of just 16? Perhaps I just screwed something up in my config file when i tried it? The yahoo developer page has a list of all of them, though I have no way to tell if that's actually 100% up to date either? Looks like it was posted in 2011. How can I make the day/night versions ONLY apply to my current weather, and not future? Maybe build 2 different sets of the same icons and exclude night? Seems like a lot of work, so wondering if anyone has tackled something similar.
Thanks,

Also, i assume somewhere zooper is taking the 48 Yahoo weather conditions and mapping that down to just 16? Where / how is that done?

g8rfn said:
All,
I've been spending a bunch of time trying to get my icons to match Yahoo (using yahoo for my data as well). Ultimately I want my widget to open yahoo weather with certain clicks and I just want everything to be cohesive in look.
So far, I was able to extract all the icons from the yahoo weather apk, and i generally have them working. However, I've noticed that Yahoo actually has many more than 16 weather types. This seems to be causing me all sorts of inconsistencies in terms of what is shown on my widget versus what is shown in the app, specifically in future forecasts for the days ahead. For example, the app shows the next 6 days as scattered thunderstorms (its florida after all). But, my widget is showing them all as full thunderstorms (different icon than the app). I can somewhat "fix" this by mapping them to scattered, but that would just break the ones who truly should be mapped to thunderstorms.
The other problem I'm having is that the future days (once its past sunset) are all changing to nightime icons instead of being locked to day versions (as it is in the app).
Anyone have experience in trying to get everything consistent? Whats the best way to address it? And, is it possible to map the full list of Yahoo data instead of just 16? Perhaps I just screwed something up in my config file when i tried it? The yahoo developer page has a list of all of them, though I have no way to tell if that's actually 100% up to date either? Looks like it was posted in 2011. How can I make the day/night versions ONLY apply to my current weather, and not future? Maybe build 2 different sets of the same icons and exclude night? Seems like a lot of work, so wondering if anyone has tackled something similar.
Thanks,
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You will not be able to match Yahoo's weather states exactly with Zooper. As you already figured out, Zooper only knows 16 weather states, which is done to unify the states from different weather data providers to a single interface. The external states are mapped internally to these internal ones and this process can not be influenced from the user side.
As to your second question about the day/night icons: download my weather icon set here and check the included XML. It's configured to only show day/night icons for the current weather option and not the forecast variants. You should be able to transfer this to your set quite easily

Thanks!

Interesting. I didn't know zooper converted the 48 yahoo weathers to 16. What are those 16? I'm trying to do something similar to the OP but with bitmaps.

TheStretchedElf said:
Interesting. I didn't know zooper converted the 48 yahoo weathers to 16. What are those 16? I'm trying to do something similar to the OP but with bitmaps.
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To answer my own question, and assuming this link is up to date, the 16 weather conditions of zooper are here: http://www.zooper.org/wp/archives/1155

kwerdenker said:
As to your second question about the day/night icons: download my weather icon set here and check the included XML. It's configured to only show day/night icons for the current weather option and not the forecast variants. You should be able to transfer this to your set quite easily
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I am facing the same problem regarding day/night icons. I downloaded your config.xml and tried to modify my existing xml based on the info in your xml, but it seems I'm doing something wrong because when I open Zooper on my phone the app is not recognizing the modified xml.
I am attaching the icon set (including the original xml) without any modification. I would appreciate if you let me know exactly what to modify in the xml.
Thanks

jakou said:
I am facing the same problem regarding day/night icons. I downloaded your config.xml and tried to modify my existing xml based on the info in your xml, but it seems I'm doing something wrong because when I open Zooper on my phone the app is not recognizing the modified xml.
I am attaching the icon set (including the original xml) without any modification. I would appreciate if you let me know exactly what to modify in the xml.
Thanks
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I rather prefere if you upload your edited version so I can check it for errors and tell you what you did wrong. That way you know what to do when the next icon pack comes around

kwerdenker said:
I rather prefere if you upload your edited version so I can check it for errors and tell you what you did wrong. That way you know what to do when the next icon pack comes around
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Here's the modified xml.

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HTC weather widget locations

Moved up from G2 to Desire yesterday and was trying to replicate how I had my G2 (and liked it). I noticed straight away that the weather widget from HTC is now limited to purely locations pre installed on the Desire.
On the G2 you could pick your "current" location where it would open google maps and you could if you wanted you zoom & scroll to your "desired" (no pun intended) location & pick virtually anywhere on the globe and use that.
Just wondering why on the updated UE with more advanced ROM I can't do this?? So my question is to those who know alot more about the backend of these apps/phones, can the location data I have created on my G2 be located easily enough and possibly moved over to my desire??
Thanks
From the manual.
If you consented to turn location service on when you were setting up your phone for the first time, you’ll see the weather of your current location right on the HTC Clock widget of your Home screen.
You can also use the Weather application to check the current weather and weather forecasts for the next four days of the week. In addition to your current location’s weather, this application also displays the weather forecasts of other cities around the globe.
If you declined to turn location service on during first-time setup of your phone, turn location service on in your phone’s settings so that you’ll be able to check your current location’s weather on the HTC Clock widget, Weather application, and the Weather widget. Press HOME > MENU, tap Settings > Location, and then select the Use wireless networks check box.
Location services are on and it works as described for the "current" location. My question was with regard to other user defined locations, which I could do with the previous version of the widget on the android OS on my G2.
This way I can check the weather say at a destination later in the day which isn't contained within the database within the handset.
Is this what you are looking for, although it sounds as though you are limited to the cities listed on the hand set.
Adding a city to the Weather screen
Add more cities to the Weather screen so you can instantly check the weather forecasts in these cities. In addition to your current location, the Weather screen can display up to 15 cities.
1.Press HOME, and then tap Weather.
2.On the Weather screen, tap +.
3.Enter the location you want to add on the text field. As you enter text, the list is filtered to show the possible locations based on the letters you entered.
4.Tap the desired city to select it.
It annoys me that they still don't let it access the weather service online and use your location from there as my location is still no there it was the same with the hero i had.
The locations you can add aren't brilliant I have admit.
I was searching for Basingstoke (someone has to) and couldnt find it until I noticed it under 'Baskingstoke' !
I'm in Reading and it can't find any weather data, it's because we don't have weather here see. That's what it is.
I emailed them over this back when i had my htc hero like 6 months ago and still no fix to this issue.
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I'm in Reading and it can't find any weather data, it's because we don't have weather here see. That's what it is.
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I can get Reading OK on mine?
I have exactly the same problem, it wouldnt let me puck my own location...except the one picked by the phoneitself. For instance I live in bromley and when HTC set bromley as current location, there is no data available, however If I look for bromley myself and and add as a second location, the weather infor is available for that but the phone will not let me set that one as my current location.
sometimes the current location is unavailable for some reason, however if you add another city and use exactly the same location as for current location it will work fine and then you can set it as your default weather status
I like "Jabbypants" have emailed HTC as from what I can see it is a backward step not allowing us to use the map to pinpoint locations we want to know the weather for.
Maybe if enough email we may get a response?? Or somekind soul from HTC that reads these post will put up an "unofficial fix"??
http://www.htc.com/uk/CS_Mail.aspx
cez10 said:
sometimes the current location is unavailable for some reason, however if you add another city and use exactly the same location as for current location it will work fine and then you can set it as your default weather status
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I have tried that but it did not work..
I too had an oddity with the weather widget last night.
I'm in Leeds in the UK. That's the Leeds in Yorkshire, not in Kent. The weather widget only offers one Leeds, but doesn't state which one it is.
That seemed fair enough until last night. The weather for current location (Leeds) was different from the manually added city (Leeds also). I'm talking major difference - one said snow/rain with 2 degrees and the other said sunny at 8 degrees.
I'd like to figure out which Leeds is actually the one listed for manual selection. It obviously recognises both locations as showed the different weather for them both, but only lets you choose one manually.
Dae.
Edit. It's doing it again now. Leeds(current) shows 7 degrees, sunny and tomorrow (Monday) at 12 degree high with rain. Manually added Leeds shows current 8, cloudy with tomorrow being 11 degree high with Sun!!!
Well I have had a response from HTC, directly via email and via facebook.
Basically the "pinpoint" method employed on earlier android UE's has been removed due to a lack of customer trust. People didn't believe the weather it displayed for locations.
Email conversation is below
"Thank you for contacting HTC regarding the weather widget for your new Desire.
The Google map pinpointing technique you describe is no longer available. However, you can still find your location by doing the following:
- From the home screen, tap on Weather (or click menu and then Weather).
- Once in Weather, tap Menu. This will give you a keyboard so that you can type your preferred location.
I trust that this resolves your query, please do not hesitate to contact us again if required.
Kind regards"
I then tried a different tack
Thanks for the reply,
though the technique you describe
- From the home screen, tap on Weather (or click menu and then Weather).
- Once in Weather, tap Menu. This will give you a keyboard so that you can type your preferred location.
is flawed in that it is limited by the locations stored in the UE's database? I can't say for instance pick "Famagusta" in Cyprus as a location I want the weather for, as the UE only brings up Limassol or Nicosia in Cyprus (2 locations for a large island). I know that is a wide of the mark example, but I spend time there, though is is the same for most European countries.
Is there any way to expand the geographic database or do we have to wait for someone to hack it, like they did on Windows Mobile based devices such as the Diamond, where we could edit the database with locations from accuweather.com
Any further info would be most welcome as it has somewhat taken the shine off my progression from handset to handset (last 5 all HTC) which seemed to offer more to the consumer and be more customer orientated in that we could personalise them.
Many thanks
"Unfortunately, there is no way to expand the database. We cannot offer support regarding 3rd party applications, such as you describe. However, you are certainly free to investigate this avenue yourself.
We will feed back to HQ with your comments, but at this time, the locations in the list are the only ones available.
Kind regards,"
I'll be keeping an eye on any developments for this because I'd like it to be able to tell me the weather in Ipsos on Corfu. As it is, Corfu island is omitted altogether.
Anyone with this problem?
My current location displays Portugal instead of Lisbon.
My HTC Hero displayed my location correctly, local city detail instead of county detail.
The weather widget really annoys me. My location is not on the list and if I tell it to current location it knows where I am but says no weather data available. I can view the weather okay on accuweather.com so it's just the widget that won't show it for some reason.
I also asked :
I cannot set MY LOCATION manually. Strange, but I live in Bucharest which is the capital of the country and the weather program from Sense UI finds the city but in the HOME screen the weather it's different (not Bucharest). So my location it is not set manually, the GPS and google settings knows that I'm in Bucharest but the weather shown in HOME Screen it's not Bucharest - instead I have (I guess) Weather for Romania (no city , only Romania). Before writing this e-mail I did some research on the net and the user manual, and I find out that My location it is taken from network settings or something like that. This is not normal and it's very annoying. All I'm asking it's a way to set my location manually or a real automatic setting for this! Romania it's quite big you know ????? Thank you and I'm expecting your answer urgent! Kind regards!
This is what they answered:
Thank you for contacting us,
Regarding the issue you're facing, kindly be informed that if you disable the automatic location settings your location will be determined from the world clock that you can set manually but you will not receive any weather updates, you can try to use another SIM card from a different operator to check if this issue will persist or not, you can also try to searching the Android Market to check if there are any 3rd party applications that might help you with this issue.
Same issue here, weather for Paris works great, but I would like to add the small village where I spend my week-ends, and I can't find it in the database...
Looks like the cities are stored in an xml file, but I don't where to find it...
-> www dot htc-touch-info dot com/en/weather/

[Q] Sense 3.0 weather issues / custom location

Hello everyone,
I'm using Android Revolution 6.3.2, S-Eng off a.s.o.
I am trying to add a custom weather location, but I don't know which database to edit in WPDB.zip. I tried to add the location to WP_040EHUN, WP_0407GER and WP_0409WWE so far without success, my phone won't find the new location, which is in Hungary btw. Accuweather.com shows it and all fields I added in the database seem correct, and yet nothing.
Also, does the clock/weather widget only work with current location setting? Because as soon as I disable current location, it doesn't show the weather anymore.
The Weather application still shows and updates the location even after I turn off current location, yet it doesn't show it in the list.
The News & Weather application does the same as the Clock/Weather widget (if current location is off, it doesn't show the weather, it says "no available location").
I suspect this has something to do with Sense rather then the ROM, but anyhow any help would be appreciated.
Thank you!
You are right it is a sense issue. I got fed up of the sense weather widget and now use HD widgets or Beautiful widgets. You can make both of them look almost identical to sense and the location works perfectly.
It's quite an easy edit, its the wee one. Once in the db set your lat/long, and name it whatever you want. Then in the weather app and clock, select what you named it in the db.
I'll have a search for the info, and post the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088844
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But the whole point of it is to tell you the weather where you are at that moment. That edit is OK if your never leave your own backyard.
FurryCup said:
But the whole point of it is to tell you the weather where you are at that moment. That edit is OK if your never leave your own backyard.
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Yeah, but what if I don't want Google to know where I am at any given time? I mean, I'm not paranoid, don't have anything to hide either and I like Android, but I'm trying to let it invade my privacy as less as possible.

Issues with .PNG files?

So I whipped up some neat icons for a custom theme I'm working on and found to my horror that Zooper Widget seems to not support importing .png files as static images? Perhaps I'm wrong and this is a bug but if it's not then It's a feature that I highly desire to have, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
I looked around for ages to see if there was anyone else who might have mentioned this but I've seen nothing, aside from .svg support.
I do have the paid version of Zooper and do enjoy using it immensely. I loathe having to return to UCCW just to make a couple of folder widgets to use my icons on so if that tells you anything about how much I enjoy Zooper.
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If nothing else, where do I go from here? I'm using a gradient as a background for my folder bar so the icon images I'm using absolutely have to have transparency and I already exported them all in .png format. I have around 25 and I still have yet to figure out how to load an alpha channel from my transparent background in photoshop (because apparently you can't, you have to manually do it).
Best wishes and thanks for the great app devs! Keep up the hard work!
Png works man...We are using since ages
Must be a bug then.
On my app if I choose "Bitmap: Add a static bitmap from your Device Gallery" and then select the .png image then nothing happens. I've left it there for a few hours to see if it would just load up in time, even rebooted to check and see if that might be a bug as well. No dice either way, just the default folder icon sitting there mocking me.
Is there a size requirement to the images that I wasn't aware of? I was using 640x640 images... which is a little on the large size so if that's it then it's totally my fault. If not then I need to go and find a place to submit a bug report because it's not working properly for anything other than .bmp and .jpg files on my end it seems.
From what I've found you have to select always on the open with dialog, and only gallery. No idea why.
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I rooted my phone and the issue appears to have been resolved.
Whether that was due to the rooting or an update I'm not sure. Either ways your solution is extremely helpful. Thank you.
Hi, I was wondering if anybody here could give me some advice. Using my Zooper widget Pro, I made my own template with Bitmaps and all. It works great on my phone so I decided I would share the template and had it uploaded in my google drive so I could just share a download link. Now I did a test run and downloaded the template using my other phone (also has zooper widget pro) and used the template. To my surprise, the bitmaps don't show. They only appear as folder icons. All the other parts of the template such as text and weather icons work fine.

Tomorrow's weather shows crescent icon???

I just made the following simple experiment: created a weather icon using Meteor Weather Icons set and set it up to show "Tomorrow's weather". And for some unexplainable reason it shows a cresent particlaly covered by a cloud.
Why does it work that way?
AFAIK, weather icons that contain nighttime elements (like cresent) are supposed to be used by entries that show "Current Weather" during night hours only. Entries, which are set up to show weather for the entire day (like "Today's Weather", "Tomorrow's Weather", "2 Days Weather" and so on), are supposed to use generic weather icons only, independent from time of day (i.e. they shall never use nightime icons).
So, is it is bug in Zooper or is it a bug induced by a bad data from weather provider? And even if it is bad data from weather provider, why doesn't Zooper catch the error and filter it out on its side?
Its just how the config for the iconset is written.
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I've already contacted the developer for this reason.
The response was basically that this is how it should work...
Now I feel retarded...
Having zooper widget on your phone seemed like a good idea, it had so much potential, but now nothing happens and we're stuck with some things that make no sense.
It still has a ton of potential, but what's the point.
Just post the iconset and i will look into it.
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Weather for the entire day
I have the same problem, I want entries which are set up to show weather for the entire day (like "Today's Weather", "Tomorrow's Weather", "2 Days Weather" and so on) use daily weather icons only, but that's not the way ZW works.
So I've renamed all night icons in my config file to their daily equivalents. The iconset is recognized and works, most of the time. But sometimes, after the widget updates, some icons dissapear (eg. tommorow's weather and 3 days weather), and some are still there. What to do? Here are original and my own iconsets

Weather line graph? possible?

Hello, I wonder if there's possible to make a line graph with Zooper Widget Pro?
I trust the yr.no weather and would like this graph yr.no/sted/Sverige/Norrbotten/Lule%C3%A5/time_for_time.html
I know there's a widget itself for this but it simply just grabs the image itself and I can't customize it at all.
So I wonder if there's possible to somehow build weather graph in Zooper?
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Mokum020 said:
I don't know what you're thinking of making exactly, but this is a weather widget with graps I made a couple of months ago.
For me the only weather provider available in Zooper that works well with my widget is the default, Open Weather Map.
With Yr.no I mostly get strange readings and with Yahoo I get less weather data.
In the attachments you can see the data I get for your location with the three weather providers available in Zooper.
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Woa that looks sweet!
I thought mostly about a line graph that shows the weather for the next 24 or 48 hours.
Not have to be line graph, those bars you've looks great, but it would be nice if it's possible to get out every hour of the weather change in a full day atleast.
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Niemil said:
Woa that looks sweet!
I thought mostly about a line graph that shows the weather for the next 24 or 48 hours.
Not have to be line graph, those bars you've looks great, but it would be nice if it's possible to get out every hour of the weather change in a full day atleast.
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Mokum020 said:
Somebody correct me if i'm wrong but afaik you can't get hourly predictions only daily.
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Correct. Zooper doesn't pull the data for hourly forecasts. There is always Tasker as an option to get the data but I don't know if someone already tried to implement an "alternative" weather data provider that way.
I know I'm way late to this thread, but I'm just getting started with Zooper Pro. Right now, I'm only interested in making weather widgets. I'm hoping Mokum020 can answer a question for me about the wind rose. How exactly is that implemented? The widget in post #2 is simply stunning. If you didn't mind, could you post the .zw file you used so I could learn from it. Thanks in advance for any help.
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kwerdenker said:
Correct. Zooper doesn't pull the data for hourly forecasts. There is always Tasker as an option to get the data but I don't know if someone already tried to implement an "alternative" weather data provider that way.
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Tasker can definitely pull it and parse it. Either from a weather data site or using the AutoApp plugin AutoWeather, which is still in alpha but seems to work pretty well.
So, lets say Tasker passes hourly data to Tasker to build a line graph of hourly weather. I think it can ABSOLUTELY be done, technically lol, but first you'd have to work with some rectangles scaled down to lines and a whooole bunch of math.
In Zooper every aspect of those 'lines' can be controlled via Advanced Parameters. So width, rotation angle, x/y etc. The issue is that you'd have to employ some fairly advanced mathematics to get the lines into a proper graph. Whether that math gets done in Zooper based on the Tasker data, OR, the math gets done in Tasker and just all piped over to Zooper, I believe it's doable but again the math would be time consuming aspect.
Not nuclear physics, but a lot of equations and trial and error. As working with Zooper variables and math is akin to cryptography sometimes, I'd be in favor of doing the math all in Tasker and then doing a data dump to Zooper just to spin and lengthen (or shorten) the lines to display/build the graph.
Thank you very much. I'm an old hand at Android, but very new to Zooper.
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