After a couple days, what are your feels?
austontatious said:
After a couple days, what are your feels?
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I like it, my issues are not with the hardware, although I won't lie and say I don't wish for more battery life. My issues are with how beta android wear feels. Hopefully google will give it some TLC, but google seems like a company that puts a lot of effort into something, releases it then forgets it.
Anyhoo, especially after seeing the atrocity that is the apple watch I'm going to keep my 360 and of course eventually grab a Note 4. It's kind of a gimmick right now, but at least it's a nice looking gimmick and I'll give google the benefit of the doubt.
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I have no problems with the speed of it - haven't noticed any stuttering or anything that people have mentioned. However, the battery is complete crap. I tried to use it today when I played 18 holes of golf w/ the Swing by Swing app (which actually works _very_ well w/ the watch, showing distance and letting you input your scores on the watch). The watch went from 95% to 0% on hole 12, about 3 hours in (slow play!). I only turned the watch on a few times a hole and didn't get any messages or anything in the meanwhile. The watch has also gone from 100% to 5% when used as a sleep tracker for 5 1/2 hours.
It's OK. I realized from day one that this is SQUARELY first/early adopter territory. As far as the battery goes, luckily, recharging takes only a little time. I found the secret is the mid day recharge. I turned off ambient mode and my phone was at 75% after almost 5 hours. Over lunch I tossed it on an old Nokia charger I had for 20 minutes and had over 90%. Right now it's 8:30p and I have 60%.
Midday charge while you're at the desk for 20 minutes erases all worries. Should you have to do it... No. But if you do it eliminates a pretty annoying issue.
The leather band annoys me, because I hate leather bands. The Pebble bands don't do it for me, just my opinion sorry, just being honest. Was it so fu^king hard to allow enough room for any band? The "notch" is just a slap in the face.
Dusty Rhodes said:
It's OK. I realized from day one that this is SQUARELY first/early adopter territory. As far as the battery goes, luckily, recharging takes only a little time. I found the secret is the mid day recharge. I turned off ambient mode and my phone was at 75% after almost 5 hours. Over lunch I tossed it on an old Nokia charger I had for 20 minutes and had over 90%. Right now it's 8:30p and I have 60%.
Midday charge while you're at the desk for 20 minutes erases all worries. Should you have to do it... No. But if you do it eliminates a pretty annoying issue.
The leather band annoys me, because I hate leather bands. The Pebble bands don't do it for me, just my opinion sorry, just being honest. Was it so fu^king hard to allow enough room for any band? The "notch" is just a slap in the face.
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Yep, we all have to realize we are kind of alpha testing here. The Moto 360 version 2 will probably be decent, and version 3 will be awesome.
And maybe by the next version Motorola find a way to keep the small bezel and have a fully round screen.
I agree, it's OK. I sold my Gear 2 to get this because I didn't like the square/plastic combo, and thought I didn't like the OS, but frankly the way the interface worked was much better than Android Wear. It had a great looking display and got 3-4 days of battery life!
But it's a watch, so looks mean a lot... I may have to return this bad boy and wait for the LG R, or the Moto 362, lol...
-My only hope is that since this is Android there will be some decent development happening, but after reading some posts I'm not so sure...
I'm in the UK so still waiting for it to be released here. Blessing in disguise for me as I'm not one to be an early adopter so by the time it is released, I'll have the wealth of knowledge from US user comments/reviews before I pull the trigger on it.
I think the device is doing quite well for a first release. The battery on ambient mode lasts all the way until I get home from work and will last a workout as well counting all my steps and monitoring my heart rate several times. I also think overall the watch looks pretty executive. Has a professional look and feel to it. Can't help but think all the square smart watches are too "kid-like".
As previously mentioned, once android wear adds features and apps start catching up I think there is really great potential for the device.
I love it. Does what I need it to do, which is notify me and let me respond to texts and certain apps. I can use it for navigation and some Google questions. I take it off the charger around 6am and by the time i charge it at night (around 10pm) it still has 30-40%. I am a light user... meaning, I dont need (and turned off) Google Now (watch telling me info w/out asking). I don't care for step count or heart rate cuz I run at night anyway. I dont care to add games or browsing apps on it. That is what my phone is for. What I use it for may not be worth $250, but its the best looking (IMO) and there are not much AW options out right now.
Just glad I don't have to constantly check my phone for any important notifications from work or family.
The only thing i wish it had was a speaker phone.
I'm on my 4th day and really like it but I'll be honest I wished Samsung had a round watch and running Android Wear all because I plan to get the Note 4.
Besides that my battery seemed to improve with every charge. Only thing I wish was to be able to turn off vibration and still see notifications when it comes. So far if I scroll top to bottom it will turn off vibration and notifications. Unless I'm doing it wrong.
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After the 1st day of having it I thought I would sell it because I didn't think the watch did much and I thought I'd be judged by friends and coworkers for buying a smart watch (half kidding) but android wear has grown on me and everyone who's seen it loves it.
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Hey everyone, I'm looking to buy a casual watch. (something less than 500 bucks) I'm really interested in both the WIMM One and I'm Watch. I have looked at the specs and reviews, but I'd like some opinions. both look like they have a lot of potential. I do like the I'm Watch's curved screen. but the WIMM One looks like its got a bit more tech on it. What do you think? I want the most bang for my buck
Personally, I'm looking at the WIMM. Both from a cost perspective and from a battery life one.
The I'm Watch can do speakerphone, which the WIMM can't, but, really, I don't see myself using a speakerphone on a watch very often.
The dual-mode screen on the WIMM is a huge plus, in my book, as is the open-ness of the developer platform (something that I haven't seen much of with the I'm Watch).
Apps / Dev Support will make or break these devices.
I think I like the WIMM too. I have to ask, do you feel its worth getting the developer preview? perhaps I should tough it out and wait for a consumer release?
Well, I finally broke down and ordered a dev preview. It should be here in the next week or so.
After I get it, I'll let you know.
Awesome, Thanks!
Checked on my order status...
I should get it Wednesday or Thursday.
Early Christmas for me!
I've had the WIMM for a little less than a day now, and so far, the experience has been pretty good.
The only complaint I have is that Bluetooth does not want to reconnect to my phone if I let it get out of range. I have to un-pair, then re-pair the two.
Other than that, everything works wonderfully.
The display is amazing. Full color mode looks great, and the B&W LCD is amazingly crisp.
I haven't had it long enough to comment on the battery life, but so far today, after taking it off the charger six hours ago, I'm at 60%(ish) battery. Granted, it has seen only light usage, but, honestly, as a watch, I'm impressed.
I'll try to answer any questions, but so far I can definitely recommend getting one.
I got my WIMM in yesterday, and let it charge for the suggested three hours first. It's been on my wrist for the past eight hours and I'm still at 90%.
I've gotten really good at the swipe controls now; it's second nature.
My young daughter keeps playing the tilt ball puzzle game I downloaded from the WIMM beta forum.
I keep using the News reader app from the same place. That one alone, even though it's using sync'd data and isn't pulling realtime, is going to keep me happy with the watch because it's great for passing time in bed, while waiting, etc. It works surprisingly well on the small screen.
I have it set to sync my Google Calendars every few hours. Fantastic, having my appointments right there. (One included watchface even shows the next item.)
Having weather and time on my wrist for my favorite work and pleasure locations around the world is handy.
I downloaded a Christmas watchface with falling snow, which is fun to show off.
Just now, my wife asked for a wakeup in a half hour, so I pulled up the alarm app and a few seconds later I had one set to remind me. So easy.
The only problem I'm having is getting ADB to recognize the darned thing. Once I get past that common new-Android-device problem, I'm going to be creating some apps myself for it. First, probably a family picture viewer.
By itself, the WIMM looks bulky. On my wrist, with the way they sloped the wrist band carrier, it looks fine. Love the magnetic charging cradle, btw.
Now I wish I'd bought a couple for Christmas presents to my stepsons who love gizmos.
Heading towards 24 hours now, and still at 50%.
However, I am not using the Bluetooth. Just a WiFi auto sync every 3 hours.
I really like that whenever the watch goes into standby mode after a few seconds, the screen turns into a transflective B&W LCD image that is updated once a minute. Saves battery and yet the watchface is always visible unless it's dark... and then just a slight tap brings up the backlight and full color.
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The only problem I'm having is getting ADB to recognize the darned thing.
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@kdarling, let us know if we can help you w/ your ADB connection, either in our forums or [email protected].
-Ted Ladd
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P.S. Sorry to intrude on the discussion.
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@kdarling, let us know if we can help you w/ your ADB connection, either in our forums or [email protected].
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Thanks Ted. I'm constantly adding on more Android devices for development, so I'm used to having a bit of trouble now and again. I thought at first it was because I only have the R3 usb drivers from Google. I also inserted a line in the usb inf file with the WIMM ID.
After reading comments by others, I finally found that I just had to hold the module down tight in the dock paddle while my laptop was talking to it. I've cleaned the contacts, but it just seems that they don't make good connections by themselves all the time. Overall, though, that's a relatively minor annoyance.
Hi kdarling, I wonder if you could help me by answering a couple of questions about the WIMM one as although there are a few reviews online I cant seem to find all the answers I was after
1) I assume this doesnt currently have GPS? It doesnt seem to mention it in any of the reviews so I assume not, and if so then thats a shame since there is real potential here for this to be the ideal "athlete" device which could log your training routes/speed etc especially in cases where you might not want to take your phone with you
2) How well does the Transflective screen work? Ive seen in reviews that it is updated every minuite but is that adjustable in the app? Again the reason I am asking is for sports being outside in the sun a "normal" LCD screen is unusable, but a transflective screen would be perfect for displaying stats like speed etc but only if it were updating more often then every minuite
3) how "easy" is it to develop apps for this? Again as mentioned I can see a real sporting potential for this device if you were able to launch apps that were specific for the sport you were doing (i.e. one for running, rowing, cyling etc) that displayed the data you wanted
If you could help with my questions would be great, have been looking/waiting for a dvice like this for a while really, just as shame that theres no GPS as thats an essential requirement really..
I'm not kdarling, but I have one of these as well, so let me take a stab at answering...
1) The device does have GPS, but, according to WIMM, that particular chip is disabled (via software) currently for power saving / performance reasons. I'm not positive, but I believe that the device could receive GPS information from a connected phone also.
2) The Transflective screen is absolutely amazing. The clarity is much better than I was expecting. Currently, there is no method to adjust the refresh rate for the apps that use that screen mode. From what I've been able to ascertain, the refresh rate can be specified within a given application. However, that seems to have a fairly negative effect on the battery life.
3) I'm not a "real" developer, so I honestly can't speak on this... However, having said that, I will state that it seems very marginally more difficult that developing for most other android devices, mostly due to the inherent with a device of this size/specs/interface.
I can say that this device, as it is right now, is absolutely fantastic. It has the potential to provide a tremendous impact in everyday life with a few minor tweaks, but even without any changes, it has made a significant impact so far for me.
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I'm not kdarling, but I have one of these as well, so let me take a stab at answering...
1) The device does have GPS, but, according to WIMM, that particular chip is disabled (via software) currently for power saving / performance reasons. I'm not positive, but I believe that the device could receive GPS information from a connected phone also.
2) The Transflective screen is absolutely amazing. The clarity is much better than I was expecting. Currently, there is no method to adjust the refresh rate for the apps that use that screen mode. From what I've been able to ascertain, the refresh rate can be specified within a given application. However, that seems to have a fairly negative effect on the battery life.
3) I'm not a "real" developer, so I honestly can't speak on this... However, having said that, I will state that it seems very marginally more difficult that developing for most other android devices, mostly due to the inherent with a device of this size/specs/interface.
I can say that this device, as it is right now, is absolutely fantastic. It has the potential to provide a tremendous impact in everyday life with a few minor tweaks, but even without any changes, it has made a significant impact so far for me.
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AH thats brilliant thanks!Very interesting to hear that it does contain GPS then, even if it is disabled, since that suggests in future it may be able to activate it for those times when you would need it, and then disable it when you need battery life!
Will keep a close eye on this I think...
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Awesome, Thanks!
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+ 10000000 Thanks
Sweet, so I should probably order soon then eh?
Has anybody had a stab at the I'm Watch yet? I'd really like to know before I buy one.
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Has anybody had a stab at the I'm Watch yet? I'd really like to know before I buy one.
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As long as it has a 40 hour or so battery life it's not much differernt than using a manual wristwatch.
I'd have to say though compared to the I'm Watch the wimm one is really ugly.
@carnagecjb Great reply. I couldn't have said it better myself.
@stelph By your use of the word "brilliant", I surmise that you live outside of the U.S. Good and bad news. Bad: We don't ship the WIMM One outside of the US yet, since we're still waiting for CE certification.
Good news: We just started a contest where I will send you a free unit - anywhere in the world - once you have created and posted a good app to our forums. See the Announcements within dev.wimm.com
Ted Ladd
WIMM Labs
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I'd have to say though compared to the I'm Watch the wimm one is really ugly.
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Many of us at WIMM Labs have created our own straps. Because the module pops out of the strap, you can place it into whatever attachment you like. I use a wide leather strap (pict attached). Other says that its ugly, but Beauty is in the eye...
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Is it just me or does it seem kind of suspicious all of these "expert" review sites came out of the blue and bashed the 360 's battery life and performance before giving it a proper test? Also suspicious how most of these sites are either pro apple or pro samsung ( don't get me wrong I love samsung too). If you check the reviews coming out now from sites that actually know how to review (Gizmodo, phandroid, droidlife, anandtech etc...) they all say the battery life is perfectly fine. Even here on our forums everyone is confused as to how these review sites got such "terrible" battery life... yet we all are consistently getting decent life with and without the ambient sensor on. Looks to me like jealous competitors paying off the media to bash the 360 before it can even get off the ground. Just my 2 cents...
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id hate to see that happen but yes most of the sites that had bad early reviews are sites with clear apple bias proved multiple times. Im hoping maybe they just had early software or hardware
Idk if I agree with you.. Those media sites probably only got a hold of the watch on the 4th and had to write a review within a day because the watch was released on the 5th... One day is never enough for a good judgment of battery life
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nah, probably all the tech sites got this on their hands already couple of weeks ago but since they have embargo to post anything before the 5th they couldn't say anything. I was actually suspecting this already some weeks ago since all the major tech-sites went silent on Moto360.
They have had their fare share to test the moto 360 and if they say the battery is awful I am willing to believe them. I mean the battery size is very small and for some reason Moto went for a very power hungry processor. I have no idea why they made such a big mistake but this is what we have now.
Actually I find most websites extremely Pro-Motorola, with "this is the first real smartwatch" and the like comments.
The original Galaxy Gear look like a "Smart Watch" to me.
Moto fans sound like apple sheep, look Motorola invented the first smart watch.
The latest battery life test I seen said the watch was turned on 7:30 am and went on until 11 pm and had 28% left.
Well my Gear Live has the same battery life but I do not have to flick my wrist or press and button to turn the display on.
If I used the Gear Live the same way it last 2 days easy.
In ambient mode they say 13 hours???
Really go out in the evening and your "cool" looking watch turns into dead weight.
You do not speak for everybody, why not buy a round phone?
Because you do things like read email and the round shape is a waste of screen space.
The same can be said with a watch, I read emails on my watch.... Why would I want it to be round.
I have since the age of digital watches always had a rectangular watch, and this means since the 90s
but face it Motorola is a Chinese company (soon) you do not have to be loyal to it, and the battery life of the Moto 360 is joke.
Because I don't want to look like a dork?
Plus, that's not how I'd like to use my smartwatch- I don't want it for reading emails, I just need to know that I got an email. If I want to read it, I'd just pull my phone out and read it. Much in the same way, I don't use my phone to write up long replies to emails, that's not what it's for, I use my laptop to do that, after I've read it on my phone.
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Because I don't want to look like a dork?
Plus, that's not how I'd like to use my smartwatch- I don't want it for reading emails, I just need to know that I got an email. If I want to read it, I'd just pull my phone out and read it. Much in the same way, I don't use my phone to write up long replies to emails, that's not what it's for, I use my laptop to do that, after I've read it on my phone.
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this is exactly how I plan on using the watch. Sure, in a pinch I can read the emails on my phone, but it's not ideal. Same thing with my phone... Sure, I can respond to emails from my phone, but ideally I would reply from my computer.
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this is exactly how I plan on using the watch. Sure, in a pinch I can read the emails on my phone, but it's not ideal. Same thing with my phone... Sure, I can respond to emails from my phone, but ideally I would reply from my computer.
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me too. more-so to know if the message i received needs immediate response or if it can wait. some people expect the watch to be more than just an extension of a notification center.
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Is it just me or does it seem kind of suspicious all of these "expert" review sites came out of the blue and bashed the 360 's battery life and performance before giving it a proper test? Also suspicious how most of these sites are either pro apple or pro samsung ( don't get me wrong I love samsung too). If you check the reviews coming out now from sites that actually know how to review (Gizmodo, phandroid, droidlife, anandtech etc...) they all say the battery life is perfectly fine. Even here on our forums everyone is confused as to how these review sites got such "terrible" battery life... yet we all are consistently getting decent life with and without the ambient sensor on. Looks to me like jealous competitors paying off the media to bash the 360 before it can even get off the ground. Just my 2 cents...
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no doubt in my mind.
i cant wait until google updates android wear.
I dunno.. I am not having battery issues but i find the watch extremely underwhelming so far and more annoying than helpful. I dont like that the person sitting next to me can easily read a text sent to me if my wrist is in view. I don't like how cumbersome the UI feels (yes i know its an early iteration and will get better) and i find that since im such a habitual phone checker anyway.. all the watch does it make me look at the same message twice because im going to open my phone to respond to the message anyway. I'm not gonna look like an idiot **** tracy dictating a text into my watch.
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I dunno.. I am not having battery issues but i find the watch extremely underwhelming so far and more annoying than helpful. I dont like that the person sitting next to me can easily read a text sent to me if my wrist is in view. I don't like how cumbersome the UI feels (yes i know its an early iteration and will get better) and i find that since im such a habitual phone checker anyway.. all the watch does it make me look at the same message twice because im going to open my phone to respond to the message anyway. I'm not gonna look like an idiot **** tracy dictating a text into my watch.
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It's obviously not for everyone. For me personally, I started wearing watches recently so instead of having to whip out my phone to check the time, I can just look down on my wrist. Having a smart watch will now allow me to determine if a message is worth responding to immediately or if it can wait without having to use my phone to check.
Isn't it possible that some of these reviews were written about a pre-release device? I know that the embargo was only lifted on Friday, but we have seen these things in the wild for the past 3-4 months on the wrists of various pop-tech people.
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Is it just me or does it seem kind of suspicious all of these "expert" review sites came out of the blue and bashed the 360 's battery life and performance before giving it a proper test? Also suspicious how most of these sites are either pro apple or pro samsung ( don't get me wrong I love samsung too). If you check the reviews coming out now from sites that actually know how to review (Gizmodo, phandroid, droidlife, anandtech etc...) they all say the battery life is perfectly fine. Even here on our forums everyone is confused as to how these review sites got such "terrible" battery life... yet we all are consistently getting decent life with and without the ambient sensor on. Looks to me like jealous competitors paying off the media to bash the 360 before it can even get off the ground. Just my 2 cents...
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No, "everybody" here is not confused. Many, many people are confirming what the reviews have said, or even saying that they can't get into double digits in terms of hours of battery life with light to moderate use.
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No, "everybody" here is not confused. Many, many people are confirming what the reviews have said, or even saying that they can't get into double digits in terms of hours of battery life with light to moderate use.
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Uhh, where are the many people? I'm on here and reddit's Moto 360 section. Almost everyone is claiming positive battery life, I've seen one post that was less than a day and that's because it was their first day using it so they were constantly messing with it. I'm at 18 hours and 28% left, I even used it for some navigation, a lot of email/FB/SMS checks, just messing with it, etc.
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I dunno.. I am not having battery issues but i find the watch extremely underwhelming so far and more annoying than helpful. I dont like that the person sitting next to me can easily read a text sent to me if my wrist is in view. I don't like how cumbersome the UI feels (yes i know its an early iteration and will get better) and i find that since im such a habitual phone checker anyway.. all the watch does it make me look at the same message twice because im going to open my phone to respond to the message anyway. I'm not gonna look like an idiot **** tracy dictating a text into my watch.
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Nobody can easily read your text message from your watch no matter how close they are sitting next to you. For starters normal human posture is going to make the watch appear upside-down to anyone next to you. On the off-chance you have your wrist angled in such a manner that the screen is oriented upright, they'd still have to be gawking at your wrist to read anything from it, something that I'm sure you would notice and would be very awkward for them to pull off. Finally, at least on the G watch, the text message is only displayed when you tap the message. All anyone would actually see is a notification from the senders name, not the message itself. There are plenty of events that dont require you to look at your phone to acknowledge. Reminders, timers, alerts, etc. Half the emails and SMS I get do not require a response so I just dismiss/delete them from the watch face.
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I knew these battery life reviews were trash before the watch was even released. I could just tell from the reviewers attitude that they either held some sort of bias against the device, or they were just typical review clowns who didnt really use it at all. Whether they got their hands on one a week in advance or a day in advance, I think it's obvious they only tested it for about 2 hours, saw battery life was down to 80% with screen on full brightness messing with it nonstop, and then decided they could just average out the usage for the remainder of the day so they could get on to the next review. I mean honestly, you think a reviewer who has to write 10 articles by the end of the week actually sat there and played with this watch nonstop the whole time? Hell no, they just rushed through it.
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Uhh, where are the many people? I'm on here and reddit's Moto 360 section. Almost everyone is claiming positive battery life, I've seen one post that was less than a day and that's because it was their first day using it so they were constantly messing with it. I'm at 18 hours and 28% left, I even used it for some navigation, a lot of email/FB/SMS checks, just messing with it, etc.
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Balderdash. In this very forum, probably 2/3 of posts are saying 12-14 hours tops, and probably a full 1/3 are saying they can't even manage that long. Very, very few are saying longer than 18-20 hours.
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Balderdash. In this very forum, probably 2/3 of posts are saying 12-14 hours tops, and probably a full 1/3 are saying they can't even manage that long. Very, very few are saying longer than 18-20 hours.
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Maybe I'm doing it wrong, lol. I'm not as active in this subforum as Reddit, so I'm going off what I see over there and the few that I've seen here. I'm at 4 hours and 87% right now, so I don't know unless these people are using always on screens.
No photos, apologies- my post count is not high enough.
Out of Box:
Usually I wouldn't mention this as anyone can watch an unboxing video online. But using the watch out of the box was quite a bad experience that others seem to be having as well.
Out of the Box the watch has a bit of a charge but will die almost immediately. The problem with this is that charging the watch is a difficult experience. Using the included charger, I was not able to charge the watch faster then it was discharging. To be honest I'm not sure what happened that caused the watch to eventually work but after a half hour of fumbling, the watch updated to something that was not the latest build (I only know because the charging screen was updated) and started charging.
One of the worst setups I've ever had to deal with. Luckily I only have to deal with it once.
On the wrist:
I'm not a watch wearer. I can't stand wearing any kind of jewelry. The watch itself feels very nice (for a watch) and very light to wear. It's not making my wrist sweaty and the feel is good. As a tiny wristed man, I feel the 360 has a good sized face.
No complaints.
Battery Life:
My watch started with the older KKW22 build. I was getting around 5% battery use per hour with moderate use. After updating to KGW42N I get 2-3% battery use per hour. I get ~50 emails a day with a handful of texts and calls. Always on mode is off.
Much bettery battery life then I was expecting. Outlasts my Nexus 5 easily.
TI OMAP SoC:
The Moto360 uses the Droid X's CPU. While disappointing that the watch has such old tech in it, I definitely don't feel any sluggishness. That's not to say the animations aren't occasionally choppy- they are. But with no other Android Wear watch to compare it to I can't say if this is the CPU's fault. What I can say is not the CPU's fault is the speed in which programs open, this seems to be tied to the bluetooth connection quality.
I would prefer new tech but the watch does not feel slow.
Voice Commands (OK Google):
It's passible. Not really any different then my phone and probably because it's using my phone to process the commands. It hasn't been an annoyance going off accidentally.
No complaints.
The display:
I don't like the bezel that cuts the bottom of the circle, but that's not what this section is about. The 205ppi screen is not amazing. I can see the pixels but it's not a showstopper or a distraction. The job is done, text is readable and nothing more. I live in Sunny California, and viewing the screen in daylight is possible but you still want to put your hand over the watch. The light sensor works well enough to change lighting conditions but will occasionally be a bit slow- comparable to any android phone out there.
Not bad, not good. Wish the direct sunlight viewing was better.
Android Wear:
I wish I could turn Google Now voice command off. I wish I could do a lot of things actually. Android Wear is clearly still in early development and it shows. The backgrounds for cards do not have an appropriate resolution and look terrible on a 205ppi screen. Text will overlap other text in some areas, spacing is off, this is a UI nightmare in places. The ethereal feel of all the components as a whole is rough. This is not a refined product. It's functional and that's it.
It's rough and I would not recommend it to the masses.
Moto Specific Software:
I wish I could turn off the pedometer. I wish I could stop the watch from taking my pulse every 5 minutes. The heart monitor also says that I reach my heart activity goal after a few hours of sitting. That said I do like the Moto heart rate app over the stock fit app.
The gesture to turn on the screen works very well. The update to KGW42N seems to have made it a bit more sensitive. There are many times where the watch will turn on when I wasn't trying to get in on but very very few times will it not turn on when I want it to.
It's nice but the mandatory health monitoring is a negative and not very accutrate.
Overall impressions:
It's a very nice watch. Android Wear as a whole has some issues but the Moto360 showcases it very well. I do wish it used an OLED screen so I could always have it on.
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Very nice impressions,thanks for that. You can send me your pictures via pm,and I'll put it here
I agree with your "Out of Box" impression. I'm pretty sure that it's attempting to download and install the update, which is taking more power than the charger is giving it. Since this wasn't likely a scenario that existed during testing, I'm sure it slipped through, but this is definitely something that they need to fix. Maybe they should check for battery level BEFORE they check for updates.
I'm not sure I agree with your "OK Google" section. Well, I don't disagree, but in my experience it's so hit-and-miss that it ever even recognizes the phrase that I've gotten much more used to just tapping the screen. IF it hears the "OK Google," it seems to work fine, but it seems much happier ignoring me. (...and yes, I know it's not supposed to work when dimmed... I'm only talking about when it's not.)
Once I turned off the "Fit" card, I never saw any health-monitoring functions again, unless I wanted to. Have you turned that off? (Just left-swipe the "Steps" card, until you get to settings.)
I also hoped for an OLED screen, hoping for something that worked much more like the Moto-X's active display. This one seems less reactive, and honestly, while it looks nice, especially in bright-ish light, the LCD isn't helping their battery situation, which they really should have seen coming. Motorola has been making some solid phone hardware lately, even though I still wouldn't trade my Nexus 5 in for anything they make. (Wireless charging, Moto... you know... that thing that STILL sets your watch apart? How about we look at putting that in your phones, hmm?)
I don't know. I love my Moto 360. I just kind of expected more.
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The rounds of reviews I have seen have tempered my "must-have-now" to I really want the next generation of android wear watches when we get 20 nm chips and the companies learn a few lessons on this generation.
Same boat here. It's passable. The nicest smart WATCH around but may not be the nicest SMART watch around if you get my gist. Out of box same. Horrible experience. I am a really really techie guy and it took multiple tries and multiple charging attempts to get it to sync for the first time and it forced me to charge to 100% before it would update. Ah well. With zero instructions moto must have assumed only nerds would be buying this thing.
I kind of want to return it but at the same time I really like the idea of it. The notifications are cool and I love replying to texts without having to touch my phone.
So I've had my Moto 360 for about 4 months or so now and wanted to just say a bit about my experiences with it.
The battery life for me at first was a bit of a problem and it was touch and go if I could go a full day. I don't know if this is because I was fiddling with it so much or if later versions of android wear optimised the battery better, but now I could probably go a couple of days without charging.
I find the standard launcher on android wear quite cumbersome and pants. I've since installed Android Mini Wear which is infinitely better. Unfortunately this doesn't replace the stock launcher but works side by side to it, so you can sometimes end up swiping one way and launching Mini Wear and then swiping the other way and getting the stock launcher, then you have to close both to get back to the main watch screen, bit of a pain. But the devs for Mini Wear say they are working on a way you'll be able to press a small button that shows up on the watch face to launch the full Mini Wear app draw (they currently have this feature but it launches a cut down version of Mini Wear).
A few things I'd love to be able to do with android wear is be able to adjust the timeout screen duration, sometimes it flicks off before I can do what I need to. Also being able to adjust vibrate duration wouldnt go a miss either.
Lastly I've started getting a pain in my wrist, I'm hoping this is unrelated to my watch but I'd be interested to know if any other users get it? Maybe the heart rate monitor constantly reading my pulse could be causing this? Shame you can't stop this from happening as well.
To adjust screen timeout duration try this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phonephreak.extendedlight
And I use my watch now for 2 Month and don't have any pain in the wrist
I see some people wear a watch very tight, I myself a personal preference always wear it abit loose like jewelry or a bracelet, I've worn Swatch's for years so maybe I'm just use to it. Never pain.
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I've been wearing it since the week it came out. No pains in my wrist from it. I wore it tight with the leather band, and just tight enough that I can't fit my pinky with the metal band. My back is cracked and the plastic pieces that adapt the metal band in are broken and missing pieces, but the screen is pristine after a year, the battery still lasts a whole day, and it's never felt sluggish to me. I don't use a launcher - I don't see the need for one. I pretty much don't use apps - unless it's a card, the face switcher or stopwatch/timer I don't use it.
I love my 360. The 360 V2 is a slight incremental upgrade really offering nothing over the 360 except a much better placement of the crown and the band lugs. I won't be giving up my original 360 for a while.
Though I know my next watch WILL be a Moto watch, because nobody else does wireless charging and I refuse to give it up.
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I find the standard launcher on android wear quite cumbersome and pants.
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Best review quote of the day. Bravo! hah.
When I first got my 360 the battery life sucked. For an unrelated issue I had to reset the watch, and decided to click "No" to the Google Fit permissions during setup. This has drastically improved my battery life. I'll easily get to the end of the day with more than 50% battery, and that's taking the watch off the charging cradle at 6:40am. So, pretty good! And, the funny thing is, it's the Moto Fit app that's checking your heart rate in the background, not the Google Fit app. So, even with Moto Fit firing up the heart rate sensor all day the battery life is still awesome. Seems like some poor optimisation of the Google Fit app to me. And, on that note, I haven't noticed any pain in my wrist at all and I've been wearing it every day for about two months now. Maybe its an RSI from playing with the watch too much hah
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Best review quote of the day. Bravo! hah.
When I first got my 360 the battery life sucked. For an unrelated issue I had to reset the watch, and decided to click "No" to the Google Fit permissions during setup. This has drastically improved my battery life. I'll easily get to the end of the day with more than 50% battery, and that's taking the watch off the charging cradle at 6:40am. So, pretty good! And, the funny thing is, it's the Moto Fit app that's checking your heart rate in the background, not the Google Fit app. So, even with Moto Fit firing up the heart rate sensor all day the battery life is still awesome. Seems like some poor optimisation of the Google Fit app to me. And, on that note, I haven't noticed any pain in my wrist at all and I've been wearing it every day for about two months now. Maybe its an RSI from playing with the watch too much hah
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just got a 360 with 5.1.1 and battery life does suck indeed. Going to deny G-Fit and see what happens, I am hoping for a drastic battery improvement at least 2 days. Right now I can barely get one.
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just got a 360 with 5.1.1 and battery life does suck indeed. Going to deny G-Fit and see what happens, I am hoping for a drastic battery improvement at least 2 days. Right now I can barely get one.
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Man What a difference... Turn all that **** off and the watch will last for 2 days. Dont need it anyway..
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just got a 360 with 5.1.1 and battery life does suck indeed. Going to deny G-Fit and see what happens, I am hoping for a drastic battery improvement at least 2 days. Right now I can barely get one.
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I killed google fit, turned off the gestures and ambient mode and I can squeeze out 48hrs between charges.
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Man What a difference... Turn all that **** off and the watch will last for 2 days. Dont need it anyway..
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Hah, glad it made a difference! Genuinely surprised how much impact Google Fit has, makes an amazing device seem like junk when it's running
Heyo! Looking to get into the smartwatch market this holiday and I figured a $99 moto 360 (if I can find them in stock) would be a nice way to do that. So, is this still a good buy in 2015? I have read the OMAP processor is slow and ancient but, does it get the job done on this watch?
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Heyo! Looking to get into the smartwatch market this holiday and I figured a $99 moto 360 (if I can find them in stock) would be a nice way to do that. So, is this still a good buy in 2015? I have read the OMAP processor is slow and ancient but, does it get the job done on this watch?
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I also have this doubt.
I'll be honest, I got the first gen 360 a few weeks ago because of a credit from Sprint and really wish I would've just put a few more dollars with it and got the Huawei watch.
For $99 you can't really go wrong. Yeah the processor might be a bit long in the tooth, but I don't really have any issues with mine. Plus the 2nd Gen costs loads more and doesn't really add any new functionality apart from looks.
I just find having mine really convenient, with my job I can't be looking at my phone all the time, so its perfect for me. I also find the ability to control music on my phone with my watch very handy when commuting. I'm now about to purchase a set of bluetooth headphones so I can listen to music stored on my watch. I'm in the minority who actually use Google Fit (I charge my phone every night but usually have around 40%-50% of battery left). Its just had strength training incorporated into it, so it can count how many sit ups, press ups or squats your doing, which is useful.
Even better now with the 6.0.1 update! Great value.
So in the thread "how's battery life? Any overheating?", Zeljko suggested I start a thread so here it. This will be a long term type test. Itll basiclly run till I either a. Get a new phone or b. Bust this one to peices.
So lets start with a basic run down. I buy my phones outright, I use them on Verizon's prepaid service. I've used a Motorola since the original Droid x and am very biased. I've used an xt1080(maxx 1)for the past few years.
From the battery life thread, which you can read if you please, I got a Moto Tubro 2(which i will refer to as a t2) a few days after launch. I believe I got a defective device battery wise. Which I did, after retiring that one and grabbing new one ****s been cash.
Now I am incredibly rough on phones, and absoulty hate cases. I work in construction and am 22 years old, so i do tend to drink quite frequently. And as we all know accidents happen. So let's start with my personal t2. It's a 32gb, grey ballstic nylon version. This is my last few weeks of use.
I got my new t2, it runs great, a little hot at times but that's it. Battery life as I expected. I can get almost 48 hours out of it but with only about 3 hours of sot or Nearly 7 sot hours of hevay use if i use it all day. That's a baseline, will see how much worse it may get. I have also to yet play with any settings, except disabling NFL mobile and Google services background data. I also run a few battery tough apps. The phone still to this day has the out of the box wallpaper
So let me set down some ground rules, I will only charge the device with the charger from the box, no other(I've always been strict with my self about that). The first few weeks I tried to stretch it. Now I plug it in before bed.
Well move forward with what this t2 has been through over the weeks I've had my hands on it. It's had 2 full beers spilled on it. And it works perfectly fine, a bit sticky, no display, speaker or camera issues. The volume rocker seems to be a bit hard to push from that, but that's it, an easy fix honestly. It was thrown at a wall full force in a drunken rage, due to the first beer spilled on it. It was stuck in the sheetrock of my buddy's living room. It's also been dropped on pavement and hardwood floor many times.
So here's some pictures of it, the display is very well already scratched, which I'll ride out till I cant see it, and there is a very clear black stain on the nylon. I even spilled more beer on it last night. Itll be hard to get pictures seeing as I need another person's phone, and this thread might not be the most common updated thread but it will be updated.
Any questions fire away.
Thx for starting torture test. Please continue and I'm sorry for pure phone
So you felt the best idea after accidentally spilling a beer on your phone was to throw it through a wall? Not to clean it off? Lol, also how are you getting 7 hours of SOT? I find that hard to believe since I'm struggling to get 5. I couldn't even get 7 hours SOT on the OG Turbo.
You can replace the plastic top screen, it's about $30, put one of the flexible glass Verizon protectors on top of it and it should be a little more scratch proof. I usually hate screen protectors because of the drag on them, this one doesn't have that problem.
Perhaps you should squirrel away the money intended for your next phone and apply it to an anger management class.
Yep 7 hours. And throwing it at a wall, I was just god awful pissed that it got beer on it. Here's a full day of use from last week. No major settings played with. Swear up and down .
I know the stock protector is replacable, I'm not to worried.
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Yep 7 hours. And throwing it at a wall, I was just god awful pissed that it got beer on it. Here's a full day of use from last week. No major settings played with. Swear up and down .
I know the stock protector is replacable, I'm not to worried.
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No scratched on the screenshot
I must say, I was skeptical of the 7 hours SOT also, that is until last night when I hit it with relative ease. and 30%+ battery to spare. This was a first for me, usually I had been getting 4-5 with 30% remaining.
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I must say, I was skeptical of the 7 hours SOT also, that is until last night when I hit it with relative ease. and 30%+ battery to spare. This was a first for me, usually I had been getting 4-5 with 30% remaining.
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What did you change to get over 7h? With 36% left you may reach 10h.
This is all I have to say. I disabled/uninstalled all bloat this time around.
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What did you change to get over 7h? With 36% left you may reach 10h.
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I do not have Google now enabled and I accidentally turned off location from the quick drop down while messing with Bluetooth. The main thing though is that the brightness was set at 5-10% for most of the day. I have tasker profiles to dim screen while indoors and auto while not connected to home/work networks.
I could have hit 10. I was curious to see how far I could go, but had already spent a few consecutive hours on it.
lol man
I love this thread, thanks for sharing the torture test.
People will say you're crazy, but who cares? You're giving an amazing contribution to the community interested on X Force.
Check this out, someone torture phone more than you
https://youtu.be/fTJOL5ikuZA
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Thanks mefxes. Glad to contribute.
And yes zeljko, I saw that a few weeks ago its amazing.
A small update, I dropped my phone the other night in accident trying to put it in my pocket. I missed the pocket and it fell 1 story onto hardwood floor. A new scratch on. The screen but that's all. No other issues
I think we both have more or less the same usage of our phones. This is my 2nd t2, the first one still works but is destroyed visually from showing of the durability of the screen. Stepping and jumping on it is not advised.
I had oneplus 2 before this one and the UI speed is a huge difference. It demolishes any other 810 phone I've had.
Overall very happy with performance and battery. I use lux to get same sot as op, and you will need an extra layer to avoid scratches even after the first day, the front screen layer may take on drops but not your finger nail.
Happy Xmas!
Update! Like I said it won't be the most updated but will be overtime. So the t2 has been through quite a lot here now. The frame is pretty smashed up from several horrible drops and the display has many more scratches. Can't get photos at the time but I will as some point. There is also some crusty substance in the speaker that makes no sound. Haven't felt the need to get it out.
Some hardware is damaged in the device though. Colors on the display do so.e starve things. But only certain colors, mostly on the browser. I can't even get a screen shot for you guys, seeing as screen shots don't show it. The phone still works fine, still get a little less then 7 hours on screen.
The colors strange colors I have adjusted to and it no longer bothers me. I'll try to get some more pictures soon. Beside that everything else is great.
Another quick update. Another night of drinking last night at a buddies I wake up to one dead pixel in the bottom right of the screen.
I also noticed using the phone outside(now that it's cold) the funny colors go away. Imo the 810 is having some heat issues. Device has been running very very warm for a few weeks now, it still runs fine. Just a bit warm for my taste.
Ps not running any battery/temp apps.
Just figured out (check topic subject) that you don't have Turbo 2, Tubro 2 instead
Hey!!! I want a Tubro 2!!! Where can I get one!!!
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Hey!!! I want a Tubro 2!!! Where can I get one!!!
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Closest Verizon or Best buy?