[Q] Fire TV Question? - Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

OK, this is a OLD subject? Does anyone have any idea why Amazon insists on ruining a perfectly good product by disabling external storage? 8 gig is useless when downloading multiple games? I am on metered Internet so downloading multiple times from the Cloud is not a option?
I know there are mods to correct this but it seems a awful amount of trouble for something that it should support to start with? I am probably preaching to the choir thought as support does not seem to have any feedback on the issue at Amazon?
Been waiting patiently for a replacement product to come out ......maybe Google??

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OK, this is a OLD subject? Does anyone have any idea why Amazon insists on ruining a perfectly good product by disabling external storage? 8 gig is useless when downloading multiple games? I am on metered Internet so downloading multiple times from the Cloud is not a option?
I know there are mods to correct this but it seems a awful amount of trouble for something that it should support to start with? I am probably preaching to the choir thought as support does not seem to have any feedback on the issue at Amazon?
Been waiting patiently for a replacement product to come out ......maybe Google??
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Well, it's made for people to use with Amazon stuff, like Prime, it's App store, so on. You know, online stuff. So why the stupid choice of not having an external SD slot isn't that hard to understand. It's made for streaming online content mostly.
Now, thanks to the great hackers and programmers of the world (and this site) you can put stuff on external storage. For instance, I used an external usb flashdrive to put stuff on, via foldermount.
I would check out the posts on this site, some great guides to get you information about these subjects.

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Well, it's made for people to use with Amazon stuff, like Prime, it's App store, so on. You know, online stuff. So why the stupid choice of not having an external SD slot isn't that hard to understand. It's made for streaming online content mostly.
Now, thanks to the great hackers and programmers of the world (and this site) you can put stuff on external storage. For instance, I used an external usb flashdrive to put stuff on, via foldermount.
I would check out the posts on this site, some great guides to get you information about these subjects.
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Thanks, as much as I hate to admit you are correct! This just makes the product not practical for people who are metered on usage? They want you to use this as a gaming device but give you no way to store more than a few? Many would not have the knowledge or patience to perform the mods? I myself have not rooted but have loaded XBMC and Playcast. It's a dual edge sword use my bandwidth to download or stream? I to am most grateful to the people who take the time to allow us to enjoy the Fire TV's true potential!

Rumor has it that this is a non issue in the latest firmware, but will likely have to wait for that to be rooted or that functionality to be backported.

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utorrent :)

Here
http://www.utorrentmui.com/desktop.html
A fellow countryman has made this, get it now.
kinda pointless imho
on grps it would take a year to get something big down
and it would cost a big pile of cash
a) It wouldnt if you have something faster, like EDGE or even UMTS/EVDO. Even on GRPS its not that bad for downloading.
b) It wouldnt cost a lot of cash if you have good unlimited dataplan.
well suppose so but what would make that much sense to get directly to ones pda?
of cause one could dl a perfectly legal movie to watch but that movie would run alot better if converted to the resolution of the devices and take up much less space too
not to mention that with turrents others upload from you too
which would mean that having a few people recieving from you
would damage bandwidth alot
since even HSDPA is optimized for download not upload
heck even many normal pc connections have rather poor uploads compared to download and will cut down on download if the uploads begin to reach the connections maximum
HSDPA is no worse the ordinary ADSL in terms of up/down unbalance. And many people leech regardless of their true upload abilities anyway, but with bittorrent you dont get as much download if you dont upload much.
BTW I never had problems watching unconverted videos on my phone. Maybe because I stick mostly to XScale-based devices, so I dont need to waste time on converting more then actually watching
Sometimes its more handy to just put download on phone then leave the whole noisy and powerhungry PC box all night on
Did you guys really RFT article!?
It says "You can start, pause, stop and monitor your downloads, and it also offers some additional info about every Torrent and a couple of settings." and that's it.
Where the hell it says dl to your phone!? AFAIK, it just can't even add a new torrent using that mui.
LOL
honestly I didnt read it
I thought Rudegar have read it and so replied directly to his remark about uselessness of pocket-base torrent client
cool! )))
Ingvarr said:
LOL
honestly I didnt read it
I thought Rudegar have read it and so replied directly to his remark about uselessness of pocket-base torrent client
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lol, debating a lost cause...
read what where now ?
lol, we all have diffrent needs...if we all had the same needs, we would need a pda with 4x5 Gb cpu, 2 TB Ram, and 10000 TB storage on our phones to be able to use everything that is out there
I just wanted to point out that its there if anyone would want it
Hi,
the site is inactive now, but i would still like to try this app.
Can anyone share it?
I am more interested in being able to remotely add a new torrent to my utorrent client at home using my kaiser wm6.1
thanks

No microSD cards in WM7?

reading this from engadget and this is what it says:
No support for microSD cards, though that's partially offset by the requirement for capacious internal storage. Some phones might implement the required internal storage on a microSD card, but it's not supposed to be user-swappable, and if you do switch it out, you'll reset the phone and lose all your data -- but you should be able to get most of it back when you sync with the cloud.
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Is this correct can anyone confirm i think this is relay a disappointing move, i love the minimum 8 gig memory but this really dose put a cap on stuff on your phone, and forcing up to use 3g data plans for cloud syncing, in canada we don`t have any unlimited plans we pay 30$ for 1 gig or data
This is a limitation that puzzles me. Is there some sort of techinical advantage to NOT having a card slot?
This sort of makes me think that WP7 requires external storage to function properly. So having an "optional" card is not an option.
WhyBe said:
This is a limitation that puzzles me. Is there some sort of techinical advantage to NOT having a card slot?
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It may be partly an anti-piracy tactic - make sure that if people pay to download songs from Zune, they can't give them to other people just by taking the memory card out. It's probably also tied to the practice of not allowing any software to be installed unless it's downloaded from the marketplace.
It also allows the phone manufacturers to screw more money out of customers. Look at the price difference between the 32GB iPhone 3GS and the 16GB version. Think the extra memory costs that much to include? Nope. But people who need 32GB have no choice but to pay the premium.
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It may be partly an anti-piracy tactic - make sure that if people pay to download songs from Zune, they can't give them to other people just by taking the memory card out. It's probably also tied to the practice of not allowing any software to be installed unless it's downloaded from the marketplace.
It also allows the phone manufacturers to screw more money out of customers. Look at the price difference between the 32GB iPhone 3GS and the 16GB version. Think the extra memory costs that much to include? Nope. But people who need 32GB have no choice but to pay the premium.
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Well, stopping piracy is good for everyone. Overcharging me for a few extra GB's is not cool tho.
WhyBe said:
Well, stopping piracy is good for everyone.
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Debatable.
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Well, stopping piracy is good for everyone.
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not for people that use pirated software lol
Well it's good for them too...they just don't realize it
On the contrary, actually, piracy is good for the industry. Do you think Sony would have sold even 10% of the number of original playstations they actually sold if kids hadn't been constantly swapping burned CD's in the playground?
Shasarak said:
On the contrary, actually, piracy is good for the industry. Do you think Sony would have sold even 10% of the number of original playstations they actually sold if kids hadn't been constantly swapping burned CD's in the playground?
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Sony doesn't make money off of the hardware FYI (or very little). Profits come from software and licensing.
That's really a dumb justification for stealing anyways.
WhyBe said:
Sony doesn't make money off of the hardware FYI (or very little). Profits come from software and licensing.
That's really a dumb justification for stealing anyways.
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Yes, but the point is that once there were a huge number of consoles in use, their owners bought more legitimate software, and more expensive hardware add-ons, so Sony gained financially in the end.
The industry always tries to make out that piracy is immensely damaging, but it does so on the basis of entirely made-up data. They try and get some kind of estimate of how much stuff is downloaded, then work out what that would have sold for if it had all been bought, and then proclaim that they've lost that much money. This is obviously complete bull****, because it assumes that the downloaders would actually have bought the thing in question if it were only available at full price; and most of the time they wouldn't have. People generally download stuff that they still wouldn't have bought even if it were not available for download. Sometimes they even download something illegally as a trial and then buy it legally if they find they like it.
And a lot of the original illegal downloading of mp3's was driven simply by a desire to have a single track in mp3 format; the industry was ridiculously slow to realise the demand for downloads. The people who download illegally the most tend to be the same people who purchase the largest number of legal downloads; but you'll never hear the industry admit that.
WhyBe said:
Sony doesn't make money off of the hardware FYI (or very little). Profits come from software and licensing.
That's really a dumb justification for stealing anyways.
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they do make money off the hardware, maybe not with the ps3 yet but as time goes on it gets cheaper to build so they will & thats a good justification for it some people buy two xbox 360 1 for online & 1 to mod so they can have all the games they want
For some reason many IP owners find it a good idea to create tons of hassles for buying their stuff, and I, as a user, often have this funky choice of downloading something for free to have it available and running in minutes or paying, often even going to physical stores (horrors!), and then probably have some crappy DRM attached to what I just bought in hope that nothing breaks down to make it all useless.
Just a few examples: it's impossible to buy digital music where I live - neither iTunes nor Zune nor anyone else sell music here, so pirating is the only option; MS don't sell Win 7 as upgrades to Vista here, only full retail versions, so you have to pay $500 instead of $200, and then get no download option either; iGo, the satnav app I use, is sold on SD cards and have no download option for WM - hell I'm not using a separate card for just one app! And then the most glorious example - the iPhone, where they locked app installation procedure together with advanced settings, using the same mechanism. So you unlock settings and get access to free stuff in one move. That, together with no try before you buy option in appstore.
So, I don't know if piracy is good or bad for the industry, but I'm sure the industry's stupidities are one of the major causes for piracy. Only in digital you find that stuff you pay for is less convenient and causes more hassle than free stuff. It just can't work without at least some people getting pissed off and looking for workarounds.
so is microsoft setting up a itune store for mp3?
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
if we need a simple phone, we will get nokia!
its like returning to iphone 1, with no mms, no a2dp
I think WinMo 7 should have a professional version target for us!
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so is microsoft setting up a itune store for mp3?
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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Yeeeess! Where have u been? They have complete Zune functionality in WP7. There already exists the Zune mp3 site.
WP7 is the FIRST of the "iPhone killers" to compete with Apple on ALL levels and then some. No other smartphone has done so thus far.
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WP7 is the FIRST of the "iPhone killers" to compete with Apple on ALL levels and then some. No other smartphone has done so thus far.
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To say that WP7 is going to compete with iPhone is like saying Lady Gaga is going to compete against Michael Jackson's music.
People who own iPhone, do so because it's the fashion, much like why they owned iPods. People owned them because it was a fashion statement, not because it's functional. How many people you know own an iPhone and use it as a smart phone? Lots of people I know **** with the thing for 3 months, and then forget it's a smart phone and just use it as a phone.
It's not like Phone7 is going to be a fashion statement like Apple's products are. That's why Zune could never catch a decent share of the mp3 player market.
iPhone will go the way of the Nike shoe. Many people will have them, and will spend lots of money for them. In the end, it's a fad, and will fade away.
Phone7 is just Microsoft's way of trying to capitalize on the software market craze. As iPhone owners buy lots of applications, Microsoft is hoping to benefit the same way with their own marketplace. So of course, DRM is very important.
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Debatable.
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yep totally have you heard gabe newalls take on this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87pevh2Q0hg
he see's piracy for what it is and he's a developer and publisher, but also a geek and a gamer
spzero said:
yep totally have you heard gabe newalls take on this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87pevh2Q0hg
he see's piracy for what it is and he's a developer and publisher, but also a geek and a gamer
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WOW, he really understands the market, unreal, I have never heard any "expert" talk like that about piracy. Def worth watching (8+min long).
As for the topic on hand, this will almost be a deal breaker for me. SD cards are important for content I own to move it between computers or anything else. It has to be on a current device.
Just why do people think SD card support removal from WP7 has anything to do with piracy, BTW?
Think about it - what would you do with the card there? It doesn't have file system access, no file browser, and no way to use a file you copy to this card for anything. It's not any more difficult to put a pirated mp3 to Zune HD or iPod than a legal one (actually, it's much easier, but anyway).
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It's not like Phone7 is going to be a fashion statement like Apple's products are. That's why Zune could never catch a decent share of the mp3 player market.
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I don't know about that. Actually, WP7 seems so far to be the first smartphone platform apart from the iPhone to deliver experience that could make a device that I can buy for my wife as a Christmas gift. In some ways, which I know are important to her, it will certainly excel (video codec support, Zune desktop software, all the facebook stuff built in etc.). It obviously looks different and will stand out on retail shelves. I think the design will look gorgeous on amoled screens (the videos and screenshots and even low-pixel-density PC screens surely steal some of its appeal). One could argue that the "original thing", the iPhone, may be better, but the problem is, she already has one, as do all of her friends. It's difficult to stand out with the iPhone when you go into a Starbucks or board a plane. So the iPhone does have limitations as a fashion item. I'm sure no single WP7 model will beat the iPhone, so I'm reluctant to use the silly media label, "iPhone killer", but it's relatively understandable how to beat Apple in terms of market share.
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To say that WP7 is going to compete with iPhone is like saying Lady Gaga is going to compete against Michael Jackson's music.
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Isn't she?
People who own iPhone, do so because it's the fashion, much like why they owned iPods. People owned them because it was a fashion statement, not because it's functional. How many people you know own an iPhone and use it as a smart phone? Lots of people I know **** with the thing for 3 months, and then forget it's a smart phone and just use it as a phone.
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Not the many people I know with iPhones. They seem quite enthusiastic about all of their apps.
To say iPhone is a trend is to insinuate that the smartphone industry is eventually going to revert back to the old WM way of doing things. Surely you don't mean this do you?
It's not like Phone7 is going to be a fashion statement like Apple's products are. That's why Zune could never catch a decent share of the mp3 player market.
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Zune doesn't have iTunes tie-ins like iWhatever. I don't expect any mp3 site to beat iTunes anytime soon, so therefore Apple products will always have the advantage in that regard. I believe that currently iTunes is the largest music retailer.
Just because Apple is #1 in this segment doesn't mean #2 can't do well. Hell, for that matter, Apple isn't even the #1 smartphone maker and it isn't hurting them
As far as fashion statements goes, I work in a nightclub and have YET to see any type of phone used as a fashion statement.

Purchasing apps on the new marketplace

I was wondering if anyone has heard anything on this yet because I haven't...
I remember hearing that you will have the option of charging a card to purchase applications or charging them to your carriers bill. Has anyone heard if you will be able to use MS Points to purchase applications? I would like to assume that with the tight intergration between Xbox Live and Zune Marketplace, that this would be an option.
Thanks if anyone knows yet.
There has been a lot said on the topic. Yes, you can add a credit card so it'll be charged. Yes, carrier billing will also be available as an option if your carrier chooses to provide it. Marketplace will use money, not points.
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There has been a lot said on the topic. Yes, you can add a credit card so it'll be charged. Yes, carrier billing will also be available as an option if your carrier chooses to provide it. Marketplace will use money, not points.
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+1, on the ZuneInsider podcast, they said they were working to get rid of the MS Points. (Can't recall which podcast was that, sorry)
Surprised they never mention MS Points. I thought they would use them exclusively like Zune and XBox Live Marketplace. Good that they're phasing them out except they give you the option of paying with cash by purchasing point cards. This would only be useful amongst XBox users without credit cards though. The main problem with them is you always end up with spare change that you can't use.
http://www.wmexperts.com/more-info-wp7-marketplace-gaming-and-programming
Looks like my question was answered.
FTA:
For buying software, Windows Phone Marketplace will be in dollars; Xbox Marketplace will be Points ("funny money")
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LG Windows Phone 7 is a joke!

This has got to be someone's idea of a bad joke. I have an LG Quantum on AT&T and a Moto Droid on VZW. If I hear one more person tell me that WP7 blows Android out of the water I'll club them over the head with a blunt instrument.
I don't even know where to start the complaints on this brick.
No custom ringtones.
No custom themes.
No SD card or other expandable memory. (Some devices may have this)
No sideloading apps.
Very few free apps. Even the free apps for Android are paid apps for WP7.
No Flash support.
No Bluetooth file transfer.
There's so many cons to this thing I'm sure I left a few out. Piece of advice for those in the market for a new phone, PASS! Get an Android phone or a dumbed down media phone before you get this POS. At least you know up front that Apple is gonna big brother you to death on their devices.
I'm sorry I even thought about posting this. Yes, I know these are documented. All I guess I really meant to say was that the platform lacks some of the most common features of modern smartphones.
I can't believe how many people will resort to name calling and personal attacks WHILE telling someone else to grow up.
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No custom ringtones.
No custom themes.
No SD card or other expandable memory. (Some devices may have this)
No sideloading apps.
Very few free apps. Even the free apps for Android are paid apps for WP7.
No Flash support.
No Bluetooth file transfer.
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LOL Wow.
First off, your post has absolutely nothing to do with the LG Quantum. Here I was all excited that someone actually had it and was going to debate some negatives with it.
Secondly, do you honestly use custom ringtones? Enough to create an entire thread about it?
Custom themes? Why, so you can have purple on neon pink? Blechh, there are barely any good custom themes for wm, and that thing's been around since the dark ages.
I've never paid for an app, and my app list is getting longer by the day. Are you blind? Can you not see the "FREE" list in every app category?
Flash is a bad idea, it just slows things down
SD card? The phone comes with 16gb. I've got tons of music, apps, and a couple movies, and I'm still at like 9gb left. What on earth are you loading onto your phone?
Bluetooth I'll give you. But the OS is early, it'll come.
See the problem is, adults with families, work, and lives don't have 10 hours a day to tweak and install fixes. Wp7 has that "it just works" functionality, with a next-gen sleek look and design. It's not Android (thank goodness), and you should have done some research before you went ahead and bought something out of the blue.
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At least you know up front that Apple is gonna big brother you to death on their devices.
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If you bothered to read up on your device before buying it, you'd also know "up front" that every one of your complaints is well documented.
They are limitations, but they are all well known limitations.
Casey
TROLL.
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TROLL.
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Just here under my bridge, chillin'!
mcalhoun said:
This has got to be someone's idea of a bad joke. I have an LG Quantum on AT&T and a Moto Droid on VZW. If I hear one more person tell me that WP7 blows Android out of the water I'll club them over the head with a blunt instrument.
I don't even know where to start the complaints on this brick.
No custom ringtones.
No custom themes.
No SD card or other expandable memory. (Some devices may have this)
No sideloading apps.
Very few free apps. Even the free apps for Android are paid apps for WP7.
No Flash support.
No Bluetooth file transfer.
There's so many cons to this thing I'm sure I left a few out. Piece of advice for those in the market for a new phone, PASS! Get an Android phone or a dumbed down media phone before you get this POS. At least you know up front that Apple is gonna big brother you to death on their devices.
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This is precisely why people with a braincell or two look into a phone before they get it. Also, WP7 blows android out of the water.
I just turned on and dinked around with my HTC Aria for the first time in several weeks (I hadn't used it since getting my Samsung Focus). It was a PITA to use in comparison to my Focus, and it was powered off and back in the drawer within a few minutes. Before you go on about different levels of Android devices, I'm specifically talking about the interface, style, and ease of use of the OS (or lack thereof).
Interestingly, I've already converted 4 people to WP7: 2 upgraded from feature phones, which means that they'd avoided smartphones for years and finally decided that WP7 was easy enough for them. The other two, my Dad and his wife, switched out an Android and a Blackberry, respectively, because neither ever had the time nor capacity to figure out either of those two operating systems. Both love their Focii.
So yeah, WP7 is bested in many, many ways by iOS and Android (and these have been well-documented), but there's a lot to be said for the new UI and its ease of use.
But, this is all a waste of breath because, as Jim said, TROLL.
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This has got to be someone's idea of a bad joke. I have an LG Quantum on AT&T and a Moto Droid on VZW. If I hear one more person tell me that WP7 blows Android out of the water I'll club them over the head with a blunt instrument.
I don't even know where to start the complaints on this brick.
No custom ringtones.
No custom themes.
No SD card or other expandable memory. (Some devices may have this)
No sideloading apps.
Very few free apps. Even the free apps for Android are paid apps for WP7.
No Flash support.
No Bluetooth file transfer.
There's so many cons to this thing I'm sure I left a few out. Piece of advice for those in the market for a new phone, PASS! Get an Android phone or a dumbed down media phone before you get this POS. At least you know up front that Apple is gonna big brother you to death on their devices.
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1. custom ringtones?
-chevron ringone manager...
2. custom themes?
you have the lg! It has full registry access. You can theme the device in several ways via the registry and even application shortcuts
there are three ways to theme
a. pin to start
offers image tiles to make a start wallpaper of program tiles
b. http://wmpoweruser.com/tutorial-for-creating-picture-wallpaper/
c. registry entries can be used to customize page layout, toolbars, menus, keyboards, EVERYTHING! If that's not a theme, please by all that is god, tell me what it is
3. LG Quantum - can someone fact check this?
http://att.deviceanywhere.com/LGQuantum/tutorials/8716
cause that shows how to expand memory
4. No sideloading?
ugh...chevron unlock and install...it's pretty simple
5. Very few free apps!?
85% of marketplace is free/trial apps. What are you smoking?
6. No flash support
Granted, but it's coming soon...
7. BT File transfer?
hm...here I thought people were moving to cloud based storage and not bt file systems
I say it again. If anyone is getting a device, read and research
Evidently you didn't...I don't even have an LG Quantum, but I know a lot about it. How about you just give it to me =)
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LOL Wow.
Here I was all excited that someone actually had it and was going to debate some negatives with it.
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If you really want to debate the phone itself (platform excluded) that's a bit difficult. As for the phone, the only "less desirable" features as far as I am concerned would be the slide out keyboard layout and I would like to have SD card storage for videos. I really like the hardware otherwise.
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1. custom ringtones?
-chevron ringone manager...
Chevron AFAIK no longer works.
2. custom themes?
you have the lg! It has full registry access. You can theme the device in several ways via the registry and even application shortcuts
there are three ways to theme
a. pin to start
offers image tiles to make a start wallpaper of program tiles
b. http://wmpoweruser.com/tutorial-for-creating-picture-wallpaper/
c. registry entries can be used to customize page layout, toolbars, menus, keyboards, EVERYTHING! If that's not a theme, please by all that is god, tell me what it is
I'll look into this more later but thanks for the tips I didn't know about.
3. LG Quantum - can someone fact check this?
http://att.deviceanywhere.com/LGQuantum/tutorials/8716
cause that shows how to expand memory
Again, Chevron's been pulled, I know it's available but evidently they've allowed it to be circumvented.
5. Very few free apps!?
85% of marketplace is free/trial apps. What are you smoking?
Really? I really must be looking in the wrong place.
6. No flash support
Granted, but it's coming soon...
7. BT File transfer?
hm...here I thought people were moving to cloud based storage and not bt file systems
I use the cloud based storage as well but it's useful for simple transfers of files from one device to another. I actually need this a lot.
I say it again. If anyone is getting a device, read and research
Evidently you didn't...I don't even have an LG Quantum, but I know a lot about it. How about you just give it to me =)
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LOL, I'll wait to see what becomes of it for a while first.
mcalhoun said:
If you really want to debate the phone itself (platform excluded) that's a bit difficult. As for the phone, the only "less desirable" features as far as I am concerned would be the slide out keyboard layout and I would like to have SD card storage for videos. I really like the hardware otherwise.
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Well it's not like I actively wanted... to discuss the Quantum, I just- just saw your headline, thought oh I have the same one, this will probably be interestin-... you know what, nevermind. It's obvious you just learned the english language yesterday afternoon. Take care of yourself.
chevron still loads, nodo hasn't even begun to penetrate American device; let alone lgs...
and even if it did, you have full registry access
Heck do you really and I mean really need chevron in this regard??? It's a 3 second registry edit away!
It doesn't take much to learn your device and learn your hacks, and save from no flash (battery drain and slows mobile down) and bt support, you have an extremely good device. Heck save from the garish design, I would venture to say that the lg is probably one of the best phones on the market. If it didn't look like it was from 2008, it would be extremely popular.
That said, read the quantum forums. You have plenty of options regarding to getting it the way you like it.
Actually, if you do want to give it a better home =) I would want one
Welcome to early adoption. Android had many of these teething problems at 1.0. You'll get used to it, and will love when the features start pouring in later this year.
Real LG Quantum user
At the risk of actually being on-topic:
I have the LG Quantum and I love it. The performance is great, the screen is bright, and I need a keyboard because I am a typist. I'm not a hunt and peck guy and the phone is my business phone. Even at that, I watch movies on NetFlix on 3G (don't need wifi) without a hitch.
Windows Phone 7 is easy to use. You don't need a manual like the phones with thousands of disparate apps that can all run at the same time, thus screwing your ability to even make a phone call, and eventually crashing the phone. My Wife has one too, and that definitely means it is easy to use. I too have converted people, because it not about raw features that many people don't care about, it is about ease of use for major tasks, like making phone calls, keeping in touch, and taking pictures.
I have IMDB which I use all the time, Facebook, Twitter, Netflix! (yay), and Kindle. I also have a few webpages pinned to my home screen, including the Kepler exo-planet count, and the wp7list app count, which is now fast closing in on 10,000.
I hate to say, but Android is like Windows Mobile -- I had that beast for a while, but it was hard to control with full multitasking. Invariably someone wrote a bad app (pretty often, really) and killed the battery.
I believe that with the current application launching model with tombstoning,
WP7 will be ahead when it does add multitasking, because apps already know how to be interrupted gracefully and restore gracefully. The order of this was pretty smart by microsoft because, when it comes, multitasking will "just work".
I like the way Microsoft limited access to items that could be harmful. Just after a few turkeys complained that the one should be able to call an API to send a text message whenever they liked, it was announced Android had wacko apps that would send your personal info without you knowing it, and kill not only your identity but your data plan as well.
Sure, there are things missing, like custom ring tones, but a phone is a tool for increasing my productivity, and secondarily a toy. I don't really want Microsoft to get the two confused.
Once we get the initial update glitches out the way, updates and upgrades will come. WP7 already has features that no one has -- Microsoft will add more, and I believe, faster in the future.
Enjoy Windows Phone 7!
-e
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If I hear one more person tell me that WP7 blows Android out of the water I'll club them over the head with a blunt instrument.
I can't believe how many people will resort to name calling and personal attacks WHILE telling someone else to grow up.
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You can't believe that when you tell someone you'll club them over the head with a blunt instrument, they call you names?
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You can't believe that when you tell someone you'll club them over the head with a blunt instrument, they call you names?
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LOL, touche huh? Oh, the things we'll say in the midst of a rant...
Lets try to keep it friendly and stay on topic please folks.....
Much appreciated.

[Q] Need on where to save Game Data OBB

Hi,
I am new to this community, and i have a question about my phone
I want to get GTA Vice City but i do not have the money right now to but it, so i have found the .apk file on apk _
but when i install the .apk, it wont let me play because it does not have the obb files
Apk mania provides me the obb files but where do i save it on the phone so that i could play on it.
I plug my phone in my computer, i go to phone - android but there is not obb files which apk mania tells me to save it at,
Hope someone understands my problems and could help me.
It says i cannot post outside link so i could not provide the apk mania site for gta vice city, but google it
You should not be posting threads about illegally downloaded software.. Unless you want banning?
Not sure
Magician_rd said:
Hi,
I am new to this community, and i have a question about my phone
I want to get GTA Vice City but i do not have the money right now to but it, so i have found the .apk file on apk Mania
but when i install the .apk, it wont let me play because it does not have the obb files
Apk mania provides me the obb files but where do i save it on the phone so that i could play on it.
I plug my phone in my computer, i go to phone - android but there is not obb files which apk mania tells me to save it at,
Hope someone understands my problems and could help me.
It says i cannot post outside link so i could not provide the apk mania site for gta vice city, but google it
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Im not 100% sure on this one but you could try saving the OBB files in the folder where the APK was installed and maybe that would work.
Hope it helps, if not let me know what happend.:good:
MJewhurst said:
Im not 100% sure on this one but you could try saving the OBB files in the folder where the APK was installed and maybe that would work.
Hope it helps, if not let me know what happend.:good:
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no that would not work. the obb files would need to be stored in the phone in the folder marked 'android'. there you would need to place the files in the folder marked 'obb'
Go to phone android if you didn't find the obb folder then create one and paste the files inside it
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Magician_rd said:
Hi,
I am new to this community, and i have a question about my phone
I want to get GTA Vice City but i do not have the money right now to but it, so i have found the .apk file on apk Mania
but when i install the .apk, it wont let me play because it does not have the obb files
Apk mania provides me the obb files but where do i save it on the phone so that i could play on it.
I plug my phone in my computer, i go to phone - android but there is not obb files which apk mania tells me to save it at,
Hope someone understands my problems and could help me.
It says i cannot post outside link so i could not provide the apk mania site for gta vice city, but google it
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<your internal memory drive>/Android/obb
Your internal memory would be named sdcard0 or sdcard I guess.
If the folder obb doesn't exist, then create it using a file explorer.
Extract the apkmania files, and place the folder inside obb.
Apkmania mentions this on every page. But it's ok, I kind of had it hard the first time too
Hope this helped
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mklass said:
You should not be posting threads about illegally downloaded software.. Unless you want banning?
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Hey man, not questioning any principles, but just a random general query. Aren't ALL custom ROMs and kernels etc illegal softwares in the eyes of Samsung/HTC etc? How does xda decide which are or which are not?
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SacGuru said:
Hey man, not questioning any principles, but just a random general query. Aren't ALL custom ROMs and kernels etc illegal softwares in the eyes of Samsung/HTC etc? How does xda decide which are or which are not?
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I'm certainly no voice of moral authority but I guess you could argue that using custom ROMs doesn't take any money away from Samsung / HTC etc (if anything it probably makes them more money) whereas using pirated software does take away money from the developers.
CitizenLee said:
I'm certainly no voice of moral authority but I guess you could argue that using custom ROMs doesn't take any money away from Samsung / HTC etc (if anything it probably makes them more money) whereas using pirated software does take away money from the developers.
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I guess you are somewhat right. There just seems to be a superficial difference between 'downloading an illegal software' which this forum approves of, and 'dowloading a software illegally' which it does not.
What bugs me is that some times there remains no difference beetween the two. For example, I use a script to make my external memory card function as my as the internal memory, me being someone with high storage needs, even for applications, than the manufacturer provided 16gb. No one on xda would disapprove of that. However Sammy does, and incurs a loss as otherwise I would have bought a 64 gb model from them somehow.
Have we collectively decided at some point along the line that the big bad manufacturer can be fooled whenever required, whereas the developers who are not as prosperous should be helped?
Please do note that this remains just a query. I support xda and the developers here completely in all they do, along with the very minimal payment (cost of a pint or two) they sometimes ask for, and never wish to go go against the forum rules.
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But you did make a purchase from them. Once you bought it, you're free to staple to your head if you so desire. The flipside is the OP didn't purchase from the developers. If he had paid for, and couldn't get it to work, and was looking for a way to enable it, that's the acceptable route.
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But you did make a purchase from them. Once you bought it, you're free to staple to your head if you so desire. The flipside is the OP didn't purchase from the developers. If he had paid for, and couldn't get it to work, and was looking for a way to enable it, that's the acceptable route.
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That sounds really flimsy.
There are mods and even ROMs which provide us with some special characters on our stock keyboard, which are infact only available on some paid keyboards. Aren't we stealing the right to profit of those developers when we are not buying from them? Of course we are not directly stealing their softwares, but doesn't it imply almost the same thing.
Large sms (>3) get converted to mms by default, which should cost you a little data charge. We use mods and ROMs which include these mods to avoid that data charge, and only pay for a text nessage. That is like paying for a voice call when you have made a video one.
A developer such as apkmania buys the game. Believing in your principles of being free to even 'stapling it to his head' if he so desires, he modifies and redistributes it just so others can play it. And somewhere there, he is believed to overexploit his right. For users like the OP, any such game is no different than a mod, a script which extends the capability of his device.
It all comes down to one's personal opinion. There are people who believe modifying your device or loading custom firmwares on them is downright dishonest. You are right of course, from how you and I see things, but in their eyes there would be no difference between using a custom ROM or a pirated copy of a game.
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put the folder you have downloaded from Apkmania to that path
sdcards0/android/obb
if it doesn't work..so put it in that path
sdcards0/android/data
it should work...but just use the folder name as you downloaded from apkmania
don't change the name of it
SacGuru said:
That sounds really flimsy.
There are mods and even ROMs which provide us with some special characters on our stock keyboard, which are infact only available on some paid keyboards. Aren't we stealing the right to profit of those developers when we are not buying from them? Of course we are not directly stealing their softwares, but doesn't it imply almost the same thing.
Large sms (>3) get converted to mms by default, which should cost you a little data charge. We use mods and ROMs which include these mods to avoid that data charge, and only pay for a text nessage. That is like paying for a voice call when you have made a video one.
A developer such as apkmania buys the game. Believing in your principles of being free to even 'stapling it to his head' if he so desires, he modifies and redistributes it just so others can play it. And somewhere there, he is believed to overexploit his right. For users like the OP, any such game is no different than a mod, a script which extends the capability of his device.
It all comes down to one's personal opinion. There are people who believe modifying your device or loading custom firmwares on them is downright dishonest. You are right of course, from how you and I see things, but in their eyes there would be no difference between using a custom ROM or a pirated copy of a game.
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Since we can think every 3rd party software as it is able to be considered together with the main software of the device and also exdends the capabilities of it we have to find another way to determine the difference. This way is to take the developers (or creaters let's say) into account. When Apple sued jailbreak, US court decided people had any right to do with their handsets because iOS software was not to be considered seperately from iDevices so people are free to modify it as they wish. This decision gives us a good perspective of "haking" and "modifying"
For example Microsoft can be defined seperately from your computer. Your PC would be still a PC without a Windows on it. So MS has right to sell it seperately or sue you if you crack it. No one says "I am buying a Windows laptop", people say "I am buying a Asus laptop". But when you buy your phone you say "I am buying an Android phone". This defines the "Android" together with the "phone". So as long as you buy the phone, you buy the "Android" with it and you have every right to modify it within the laws because that is what manufacturers do excatly. You have more right to modifiy it than them because you pay money for the device, they don't! And yet they give you broken software (maybe intentionally, maybe Samsung is collecting info from the memory bug and selling them?)
For a 3rd party app/game which you have to pay "to another creator" to have you have no rights on it (because if you remove the software from your phone, it is still considered as an Android phone working with the features you have been promised)! You do NOT even have anything to claim on the updates. Just because you have Photoshop 3 it doesn't mean you will have PS 5 for free. They are considered seperate softwares from the same "maker". Getting free updates is something that the "creator" of the saftware agreed on to give you more in order to take more from you Google gives you updated software so you can buy your very expensive phone by believeing you can use it for a certain amount of time. Or you can buy an Android phone instead of Apple phone or Windows Phone.
About the "new or modified software can prevent you buying a 3rd party app which as that thing as a feature"; this is a matter of preference. You can say "I have already a keyboard on my device, no need to buy another one", or you can also say "Hey I can theme this keyboard as red and it has a better prediction than the stock one" and buy it. For a long time many features have been getting included by many firmwares and it is OK I believe because this time we have to seperate and define the softwares as "games/apps" and "feature adders".
BTW;
I personaly use hacked/cracked software because my country does not allow me to view every content on Google Play and I also have to pay more than anyone on the earth for a device. In Turkey Galaxy Note 2 16 Gb is sold for 1025$ (veries between 1100-1000 actually). I don't think there is a more expensive one in the world. That's my excuse as a student who gets 750$ a month. Once I move to another country or get a good job I will start by supporting the CM team then buy the games.
But although this is my way of "balancing" (I consider myself already paid for the next 100 games by just buying the phone for that price) things or giving a reaction to unfair taxes I believe in supporting the devs. Because so called "big" compaines are NOT even able to support our devices as developers/app makers/game makers are doing here. Samsung is a big fat lier for example. They give us broken firmwares and breake their promises. If it wasn't for the CM team, for example, Galaxy S would be long dead by now.
All other potentially interesting arguments over legal technicalities and attitudes aside; the OP own a smartphone worth hundreds of <local currency> and yet is claiming they can't afford to pay a few <local currency> for a single game. That's bull**** right there. If he just came out and said, "Guys, I'm a cheap bastard who's for help to pirate my software," I'd at least respect him but starting with the excuse of not being able to afford it is nonsense.
Comparing custom ROMs and priated software isn't really comparing apples with apples.
I think of it like this...
Using custom ROMs is like buying a car and then taking it to a tuner to mod the engine.
Using pirated games is like breaking into the dealer and just stealing the car.
Also, no one has ever been busted for using custom ROMs, whereas plenty of people have been trouble with the law for using pirated software.
This thread should be locked and closed.
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