Hello everyone,
I am considering to buy Samsung S5 mini or Sony Xperia Z1 Compact. Z1C does have much better hw, but does it really make significant difference comparing S5 mini hardware for daily use (no games)? Battery life is also quite important for me as I would appreciate 2 days of use (day-night-day). I like design of S5 mini a bit more, but not saying, that Z1 Compact is ugly... Price in these days also plays for Sony.
Thanks for sharing any experiences
Lowmick
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i'm getting average 3½ days on Z1C.
Already have super stable Rom and kernel and Soundmod.
Now S5 mini has no rom nor kernel so you have to wait for it.
As my previous phone was Galaxy S4 i can say the TouchWiz is complete trash and the Knox is another huge PITA for developers and for flashers.
There is even more bloat on S5 omg.
The only reason i accidentally bought Galaxy S4 was because it provided so many features which seemed like a good deal but they all were useless and drained battery.
The Z1 compact is the first phone after nokia 3310 i am totally satisfied with.
For exclusivity and quality go for Z1c OR Z3 Compact.
Z1 compact, much better.....
Lowmick said:
Hello everyone,
I am considering to buy Samsung S5 mini or Sony Xperia Z1 Compact. Z1C does have much better hw, but does it really make significant difference comparing S5 mini hardware for daily use (no games)? Battery life is also quite important for me as I would appreciate 2 days of use (day-night-day). I like design of S5 mini a bit more, but not saying, that Z1 Compact is ugly... Price in these days also plays for Sony.
Thanks for sharing any experiences
Lowmick
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The S5 Mini rocks an Exynos 3, for which open source is practically non-existant. If you're gonna be rocking custom ROMs, definitely get a Z1 Compact.
Z1c, best Phone i ever had battery ftw
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Z1c, best Phone i ever had battery ftw
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Agree totally!
Z1 compact
My answer wil be very clear: Z1 compact.
as you said, better specs, better Price, what do you want more?
Also it's almost identical to Sony's Z1, so, many options for modding and cross device roms that will work flawlessly.
And with the Z3 goodies coming, I presume very soon we will be having 4k and 120fps shooting as well as AR effects etcétera.
fritsprive said:
And with the Z3 goodies coming, I presume very soon we will be having 4k and 120fps shooting as well as AR effects etcétera.
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We have 4K and 120fps and AR mod for a real long time .........
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Lowmick said:
Hello everyone,
I am considering to buy Samsung S5 mini or Sony Xperia Z1 Compact. Z1C does have much better hw, but does it really make significant difference comparing S5 mini hardware for daily use (no games)? Battery life is also quite important for me as I would appreciate 2 days of use (day-night-day). I like design of S5 mini a bit more, but not saying, that Z1 Compact is ugly... Price in these days also plays for Sony.
Thanks for sharing any experiences
Lowmick
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S5 mini and Z1c is almost same price here in HK now because Z3c is going to out next week in HK. I'll say Z1c is a much better choice overall with much faster CPU/GPU, 512MB more memory, 200mah more battery, much more mods available from big brother Z1 or Z1c board, MHL supported, 4K recording with mod, water protection.
S5 Mini on the other hand got 0.2" larger screen, IR blaster and more light weight. So, it really depends do you need the 0.2" screen and IR to remote your TV.
The previous of Sony design on Arc and Xperia S is much better without doubt but I found the Sony' s OmniBalance design is quite good on Z1 Compact, OmniBalance is very ugly on big phone like Z1/Z2 I've to admit it but it looks okay on a compact phone.
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We have 4K and 120fps and AR mod for a real long time .........
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Yes, you are right but I have also read that with 4.4.4 the mod doesn't work as well as with 4.4.2 for reason of the old libs from the Z2 that this mod is using. They are now working very hard with the Z3 fw download to improve this.
And yes we have AR effects, but the Z3 has much more of them with more fun etcétera.
Get the S5 Mini.. At least the camera works on the S5. My wife is about to throw her Z1C at the wall every time she tries to take a photo of the kids she misses the moment because the phone either freezes when activating the camera, or it takes a photo and hangs and doesn't record it, or reboots..
Fkin Sony do my head in.
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Get the S5 Mini.. At least the camera works on the S5. My wife is about to throw her Z1C at the wall every time she tries to take a photo of the kids she misses the moment because the phone either freezes when activating the camera, or it takes a photo and hangs and doesn't record it, or reboots..
Fkin Sony do my head in.
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Software issue and can be solved. Others have had the issue (even me when flashing other ROMs) and we're fixed through flashing the a new ROM through recovery or Sony's tool.
I'm sorry your wife's z1c is doing that but don't paint a picture that every z1c does this.
hol17 said:
Software issue and can be solved. Others have had the issue (even me when flashing other ROMs) and we're fixed through flashing the a new ROM through recovery or Sony's tool.
I'm sorry your wife's z1c is doing that but don't paint a picture that every z1c does this.
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Software issue that can be solved?? Why haven't sony solved it already???????????? LOL :laugh:
My wife has had 2 of these phones, the first the sound and vibration stopped working after a week and the camera did the same thing!!
Looking at the forums the camera issue is very common especially those on 4.4.4!!
Go for Z1 compact or if ur pocket allows go for z3 compacr.
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Get the S5 Mini.. At least the camera works on the S5. My wife is about to throw her Z1C at the wall every time she tries to take a photo of the kids she misses the moment because the phone either freezes when activating the camera, or it takes a photo and hangs and doesn't record it, or reboots..
Fkin Sony do my head in.
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S5 camera works but not S5 mini, their cameras are totally different. Z1c focus speed is slow, really no good for taking photo for kids. Not sure about Z3c at this moment. Indeed, I believe HTC M8 got the fastest focus speed among android, good for your wife.
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S5 camera works but not S5 mini, their cameras are totally different. Z1c focus speed is slow, really no good for taking photo for kids. Not sure about Z3c at this moment. Indeed, I believe HTC M8 got the fastest focus speed among android, good for your wife.
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The whole point of my wife wanting the Z1C is for a few reasons. Flagship specs, high pixel camera for the great photos Sony said it would take (I find the focus speed just fine - when it works), water resistant so it can handle the spills and thrills of being a parent with young kids, and being a compact similar size to iPhone 5S (we are an android family btw). For that its perfect - except for the god dam freezing!!
Regarding the HTC M8, sure great focus speed but seriously rubbish 4MP photos you cant even zoom into. I'm not really a HTC fan either after owning the M7 :good:
I had the freeze issue a number of time. But the phone just resolve itself, miss that moment, but kids being kids there are other moments. comparing results from the photos I got no qualms as it is much better then my previous phones. I bought this mainly for the battery and so far it does not dissapoints
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If you guys got root, try flash this stuff in recovery. After that, my whole z1c including camera is faster. Remember to backup before flash.
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Z1c, best Phone i ever had battery ftw
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Agree with you!
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I am currently using Galaxy Note N7000, and want to change my phone. SO far I have seen in shop xperia ZL seems fine.
I also have in my mind iPhone 5, Xperia Z and lastly galaxy s4 -
My priority is something like this - off course phone, msg , notes, calender
*** very good camera (not lot of software features, I hardly use them, just good and easy photography)
*** Music
*** Design
*** wifi hotspot (I need it mostly , coz I need internet connection in my iPad),
*** at least 12 hrs battery life with 3g (Galaxy note hardly gives me 2 hr )
****I want to keep my phone at least for 2 years
I dont care about features that Galaxy S4 has coz I will be hardly using them like. with 5 inch screen why should I make air gesture when the screen is quite and comfortably reachable etc .
Do you think xperia ZL will be a good phone for me for next 2 years ?
I havent had a phone for 2 years so far. But I don´t see why the ZL would be a bad choise.
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*** very good camera (not lot of software features, I hardly use them, just good and easy photography)
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Not an expert in this area, but with the lastest firmware update i gotta say i love the camera, not using any of the features, just standard shots in average situations.
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*** Music
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Kind of dissapointed here, was expecting more from Sony, the audio DAC is integrated in the Qualcomm, it´s not a Sony one, my Xperia ARC used to sound better.
I´m planning to upgrade my current earphones (Senheiser CX300-II) to see if i can somehow find a more confortable sound for me.
But remember, sound is a very unique experience, every user has a different way, a differente taste for sound, so what i don´t consider excelent might be gud enough for you.
Best way, grab your earphones/headphones, go a to a local store and try them on the ZL.
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*** Design
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Best smartphone in the market for me.Period.
I absolutely love the design, in 2-3 days time it seems so small and thin on your hand...but you have a 5" inch full hd screen.
Beautiful.
I was kind of hesitating with the on screen buttons, i used a mod to reduce the size (u can even make them transparent), now i would find very hard to use a smartphone with hard buttons.
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*** wifi hotspot (I need it mostly , coz I need internet connection in my iPad),
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Haven´t use it yet, but did in previous Xperia models, so i guess u shouldn´t have a problem, the option is there, just checked.
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*** at least 12 hrs battery life with 3g (Galaxy note hardly gives me 2 hr )
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I always have 3G on, auto-sync off, i get those 12hrs but i´m not an intense user.
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****I want to keep my phone at least for 2 years
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Well, that´s hard these days, i think the ZL has some weak points, it´s not perfect, and once i find the perfect phone then i´ll stick with it for a long period of time, but surely it´s a lasting phone, everything u need is there, sure there are those minor things u would like to be better (sound quality with earphones for me).
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I dont care about features that Galaxy S4 has coz I will be hardly using them like. with 5 inch screen why should I make air gesture when the screen is quite and comfortably reachable etc .
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Regarding this, there are a few features i love from ZL, the Car Mode, the Remote Control app (u can control every single tv, music player or whatever electronic equipment with remote control) and the Small Apps (apps u can bring to the screen, small sized, such as navigator, calculator, phone, notes, camera...)
The Galaxy S4 is a hell of a phone, don´t like all the Samsung bloatware, but indeed a very nice choice as well.
Now it´s up to you considering your needs, taste and priorities.
Hi there,
Zl is a good phone, in terms of what u hv stated. Im not too sure bout the camera tho, heard so much complain bout it. But its fine for me. Software, well its android and u can download tons of it or u can just leave it alone.
Ip5 is a good choice too. As i was never a fan of apple, but particularly ip5 really capture my eyes.
Choose wisely
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Thank you all for the replies (I already did ) ... I was doing some research ...the camera is samples are quite good I found but best camera is in iPhone, I am not fan of any mobile OS but I like the simplicity in iPhone camera/other app (iOS 7 also looks promising).
But Android is also quite nice with lots of features , I love them all.
Anyways thank you guys
The camera in ZL is not very good.
Otherwise, it's perfect.
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Hi, I'm a Xperia S owner, I'm starting look for a replacement.
Is Xperia ZL a good choice?
I want a quad-core Android, that will be updated to Android 4.3 and 5.0.
I'm from Brazil, here we don't have officially (= no warranty) Xperia Z, Xperia ZR and HTC One.
I can easily find Galaxy S4, Nexus 4 and Xperia ZL.
It's important to say, LTE here is running at 2600 in the next two years also at 700.
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Yeah its a good choice but xperia zl is launched under name xperia zq there in brazil...so y dnt give a hands on..that good luck
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Thank you all for your reply ..finally I picked up iPhone 5 ..I am quite happy with it's simplicity , image quality and off course music with Bose "-)
Hi Guys,
I am planning to Buy QX100 - as per reviews its impractical !!
I want to know from the guys who are actually using it.
Its big amount for an accessory (SGD 650), please tell me your experience and should one Buy this or Ignore?
xperiax10.awesome said:
Hi Guys,
I am planning to Buy QX100 - as per reviews its impractical !!
I want to know from the guys who are actually using it.
Its big amount for an accessory (SGD 650), please tell me your experience and should one Buy this or Ignore?
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There is already a thread on this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2454053
I found the OP to be very helpful. Read through it and see
qx 10
i order qx 10 from sony centre. Will collect tomorrow..
I just got my QX100 and these are my first impressions:
Good:
+ Incredible photo quality, even the Nokia 1020 isnt close
+ Build quality
+ Good quality 1080p video
+ Fits really good at my Sony Z1 ACX2 case
+ Handy to take with you in a pocket
+ Uses its own memory card and battery
+ Many settings in photo app, feels like a real camera
Not so good:
-The "PlayMemories Mobile" app is so slow and unfriendly to handle
-Takes many many seconds from start to first photo
-Can not use phones built in flash or camera button?
-Battery life doesnt seem that good
-You can not change the folder where it saves the photos on the phone, which makes the photos dont sync with Dropobx etc.
-You can not browse the photos on the camera from the phone
-No way in the app to see which photos (can be auto-copied) and videos (can not be auto-copied) that are saved both on the phone and in the camera memory
-If you copy everything from camera memory to phone memory it will make second copies of the files already in phone memory instead of keeping both folders "in sync".
-No RAW photos
I love everything about the hardware as much as I hate everything about the software. Just the name, "PlayMemories Mobile"?!
I am hoping for an update with RAW files as well as major improvements in the software making it easier to use.
Just replay if you have some specific questions and I will try to answer.
I purchased the Sony DSC-QX10.
Just the novelty of having this cool "toy" and being able to take photos where a normal camera can't.
Would have loved to have bought the QX100, but it's a bit too much bite out of my wallet...the QX10's 10X optical zoom makes up for it though.
The only issue I have so far is there is a slight lag between the QX10 and my Xperia Z1S at times.
Not made for catching any immediate action shots, but stills & portraits are mainly the strengths to the QX10/100.
This definitely isn't a replacement camera, but an additional tool to add to my DSLR camera bag.
Im using qx100 with case for attaching it to z1
Pros
Great photo quality
Z1 acts as detachable viewfinder, useful for filming videos
Supporting tripod
Shutter button on z1 is now supported after the latest firmware upgrade
Cons
Connection is a big hassle, sucess rate is not 100%
When it fails, u hv to shut the playmemories app and the camera down, and restart the connection
After 2 firmware updates, it improves for a bit, still fail to connect from time to time
Playmemories app doesnt stay at background, so.. whenever you mininised the app, you need to re connect the camera with the app once again. Maybe rooting the phone can solve this?
Does not support led flash on z1
When attaching it with z1's exclusive case and take picture with z1's camera, it blocks the view..
You are from Singapore?
U can try getting it from here
http://www.qoo10.sg/gmkt.inc/Mobile/Goods/Goods.aspx?goodscode=413530997
It is around 500$ and seems quite trustable.
kennethlam said:
Im using qx100 with case for attaching it to z1
Pros
Great photo quality
Z1 acts as detachable viewfinder, useful for filming videos
Supporting tripod
Shutter button on z1 is now supported after the latest firmware upgrade
Cons
Connection is a big hassle, sucess rate is not 100%
When it fails, u hv to shut the playmemories app and the camera down, and restart the connection
After 2 firmware updates, it improves for a bit, still fail to connect from time to time
Playmemories app doesnt stay at background, so.. whenever you mininised the app, you need to re connect the camera with the app once again. Maybe rooting the phone can solve this?
Does not support led flash on z1
When attaching it with z1's exclusive case and take picture with z1's camera, it blocks the view..
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Same situation here...i hope sony can fix it
XperiaZ (running 4.4) and QX100 unusable
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Same situation here...i hope sony can fix it
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Using my XperiaZ running Android 4.2 , taking photo's with QX100 and Play Memories was slow
but bearable. Since 4.3 and now 4.4, it has become unusable. The latest firmware on QX100 improved
only slightly. Any screen touch takes 15 seconds to respond. So photo's can only be made using the
button on the QX100. However, without setting the focus witch requires a screen touch. And without
transferring photo's to the phone (new handy option introduced with the latest firmware and
PlayMemories App), saving 30 seconds each time.
With any other android phone I tried the QX100 (specifically Play Memories) works reasonable
but slow. With all other cons mentioned before. But Sony's Xperia Z is unusably slow. Clearly I'm
very disappointed.
Using a QX10 together with my Z1. Very happy with it. Connection takes around 6 seconds and picture transfer around 2 seconds. (Transferring 2mp photos only). Full res photos get saved to the QX10s sd card and can be retrieved manually anytime.
Looking to purchase the QX100 next. And the Z1 case attachment but its very expensive right now.
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Using a QX10 together with my Z1. Very happy with it. Connection takes around 6 seconds and picture transfer around 2 seconds. (Transferring 2mp photos only). Full res photos get saved to the QX10s sd card and can be retrieved manually anytime.
Looking to purchase the QX100 next. And the Z1 case attachment but its very expensive right now.
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Glad you are happy with your QX10. :good:
Look here before you decide to purchase the Z1 case attachment:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727045
dragion said:
Glad you are happy with your QX10. :good:
Look here before you decide to purchase the Z1 case attachment:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727045
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Thanks for that. Will definitely not buy that case.
I got my hands on a qx100 now. Wow the difference in picture quality vs the qx10 is amazing!
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Thanks for that. Will definitely not buy that case.
I got my hands on a qx100 now. Wow the difference in picture quality vs the qx10 is amazing!
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The quality of the pictures indeed is very good.
Which Android version are you running?
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The quality of the pictures indeed is very good.
Which Android version are you running?
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Official 4.4.2 for my z1. Also updated the both my QX10 and QX100 firmware to v3.
Both cameras work great with my Note 10.1 2014 tablet as well
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Official 4.4.2 for my z1. Also updated the both my QX10 and QX100 firmware to v3.
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I've updated my QX100 firmware to v3. So strange that 4.4.2 for Xperia Z is not working.
Any one better results running 4.4.2 on Xperia Z?
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I've updated my QX100 firmware to v3. So strange that 4.4.2 for Xperia Z is not working.
Any one better results running 4.4.2 on Xperia Z?
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I've re-installed 4.4.2 on XperiaZ from scratch using sony's companion software. Now the QX100 (and play memories App) are working reasonably slow. I can take pictures again. I do hope sony can fix the "screen-off camera connection gone" problem for play memories. Restarting takes so much time.
I am happy with my QX10 where it is small and compact, guess most pros and cons are the same.
Just want to share my exp. I bring QX10 to oversea trips and surprise many. Had take selfie with a camera pole attached to it and can position myself better and take nice selfie. Took a few video and the quality is very good. I even took a video of fire work with it and many say its very nice I am happy to get QX10.
Hey guys,
Have been longing to upgrade my smartphone gear, current using Live Walkman(2012), and I am petty much acquainted with Sony's devices now. My main criteria is to have low profile screen, ie. 4.5 Inch and lower so had my eyes locked on Z1 Compact, but after seeing few reviews on the tube and checking the troubleshooting section of the forum, I am kinda confused.
I do not wish to wait for newer compacts because that wont just end there and I do not change phones frequently as well, so I expect to use for 2years. So would like to know if there's an alternative to Z1C or just go for it.
PS: Would like to know from the owners of Z1C, does the volume boost really have the impact on the external speaker sound? I do not listen to music on speakers or something but I do want to get alerted, If I'm in "noisy" situation or similar.
Thanks
probably wait for z2 compact or get z2 if there's no z2 compact coming..
z2 is alot better than z1 or z1 compact.. since it fixes alot interms of hardware imperfections and brought some good features as well
@kurikapooh: SpiritBreak3r clearly stated that he doesn't want to wait for newer models and it should not be bigger than 4,5". Did you even read the post?
@SpiritBreak3r: Maybe I can help since I am currently in the same situation. For days I have been looking for compact normal-sized phones. I have/had the following in my selection: Sony Xperia Z1 compact, Moto G, HTC One Mini, HTC One Mini 2, LG G2 Mini. I am 98% percent sure that I will get the Z1 compact. What is important to me: good camera, good battery, small size. In short this is why the other phones were dropped:
HTC One Mini has a really bad camera, and at most average battery
HTC One Mini 2 is too big and has a bad battery (half of use time of the Xperia), also is more expensive than xperia and slower.
LG G2 mini is much slower than xperia and has worse resolution (I think there was something else, but I can't remember right now)
Moto G is too big and the camera is too bad for my requirements.
They also have som advantages over the xperia like for example the HTC minis have very good speakers and have good build quality. The LG G2 is very cheap and has a good camera. The Moto G is very cheap and still good (except the camera).
In the end Xperia has OK speakers, good camera (the flash problem can be fixed), its the smallest phone of them all, its very fast, the battery is good, its waterproof which is a nice gimmick. Also I really want to have slo-mo recording in 120fps which imho needs a good CPU, so again one point for the xperia.
This might be helpful to you: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z1_compact-review-1037p3.php
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...torola-Moto-G/phones/8283,8378,7702,8390,8208
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LG G2 mini is much slower than xperia and has worse resolution (I think there was something else, but I can't remember right now)
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Maybe stupid back-buttons?
And I really don't get why everyone says the Z2 is so much better than the Z1, all it has over the Z1 series is (arguably much) better speakers, better screen (but not over the Compact, Z2 and Z1C are both IPS) and a faster CPU. But hardware-wise it ends there. Certainly not something worth waiting for if you're after the Compact version of the Z2. I personally find the Z1 series more comfortable to hold than the Z2 series as well.
@SpiritBreak3r I am running CyanogenMod and the speaker is pretty loud, but I know for a fact that it goes way louder on stock Sony ROMs if you use the audio boost features. What is it you are confused about?
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I am running CyanogenMod
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Are you using a snapshot or did I miss a stable release? Also does cyanogenmod offer the software stabilization during video recording of the original ROM?
I just went ahead and purchased the Z1 compact today. Loving this phone already, but I was quite used to cynogenmod's features, like "Right top corner swipe brings the quick settings". Only disappointing were the speaker.
I got by default 4.4.2/.757 Build, so planning to root it right away and unlock the bootloader so I get the speaker's boosted up. Did anyone get the boost working on the .757 build?
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Are you using a snapshot or did I miss a stable release? Also does cyanogenmod offer the software stabilization during video recording of the original ROM?
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CyanogenMod doesn't do stable releases, 10.1 was the last, the closest you'll come these days is the M-snapshots. I am running nightlies though. Don't know about the stabilisation.
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CyanogenMod doesn't do stable releases, 10.1 was the last, the closest you'll come these days is the M-snapshots. I am running nightlies though.
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OK, I didn't know there were no stable releases anymore. Is everything working?
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Don't know about the stabilisation.
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Could you make a video on the phone and check if the image is shaking or not. You can see the difference in these videos:
with software stabilization on Xperia Z1 compact
without stabilization filmed on a Nexus 5.
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OK, I didn't know there were no stable releases anymore. Is everything working?
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Issues with WiFi-tethering, camera starts pretty slow, besides those I have no complaints.
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I got by default 4.4.2/.757 Build, so planning to root it right away and unlock the bootloader so I get the speaker's boosted up. Did anyone get the boost working on the .757 build?
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Yeah, I rooted and unlocked the bootloader and flashed the volume boost zip for the compact located on the list here. It really gives the sound a good boost so it's well recommended.
Does anyone experience a glitch when you're listening to the music and you make a call, and when it resumes the, Sound seems to be in "Mono" stream?
I tried poweramp and Walkman app, and face this issue and it is quite disturbing having the music switch to mono output.
Guys I am about to buy this phone very soon. Is flash bleeding still a problem? I am considering this or Z3 compact
amnher said:
Guys I am about to buy this phone very soon. Is flash bleeding still a problem? I am considering this or Z3 compact
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Just don't buy this phone. I don't think the flash bleed problem is related to the time of manufacturing. My phone is 14W10 and the flash bleed is so bad. Some users with older units reported not having the flash bleed problem at all.
I'd say don't waste your money on this phone. Waiting for the Z3 compact would be the wiser choice. Although for me I'd rather staying away from sony phones. Poor camera + removing the ability to move apps to SD without root even on JB + poor customer service really killed sony for me and this will be my last phone from them.
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Just don't buy this phone. I don't think the flash bleed problem is related to the time of manufacturing. My phone is 14W10 and the flash bleed is so bad. Some users with older units reported not having the flash bleed problem at all.
I'd say don't waste your money on this phone. Waiting for the Z3 compact would be the wiser choice. Although for me I'd rather staying away from sony phones. Poor camera + removing the ability to move apps to SD without root even on JB + poor customer service really killed sony for me and this will be my last phone from them.
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Oh thats too bad... I really love the water proofing of z1 compact
amnher said:
Oh thats too bad... I really love the water proofing of z1 compact
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Why Z1c in particular?? ZR, Z1, Z2 are all waterproof. Samsung galaxy S5 is also waterproof. You're not short of options in this department. If you really like Sony why not get the Z2?
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Why Z1c in particular?? ZR, Z1, Z2 are all waterproof. Samsung galaxy S5 is also waterproof. You're not short of options in this department. If you really like Sony why not get the Z2?
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budget and screen size wise... and I think Z1c is better than ZR in every aspect
amnher said:
budget and screen size wise... and I think Z1c is better than ZR in every aspect
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In that case I'd wait for the Z3 compact...hopefully all the problems that the Z1c has would be fixed "and much more" in the Z3c
Hello!
This Christmas I'mm gonna buy a new phone for myself. I'm really in love with Sony, and I also don't like more-than-5-inch displays, so the two options I'm considering are this phone (Z1 Compact) or the newer Z3 Compact.
The thing is, looking at specs, the biggest differences between them are a bit larger screen, a larger battery and the newer SD801 (in contrast with the SD800). I believe the camera sensor is the same, as is RAM, connectivity, etc.
I can buy the Z1 Compact from Amazon at 350€, or get it second-hand at 250-300€. However, the Z3 Compact I can get at Amazon for 460€, a bit less if I get it second-hand.
My question is: Is this difference in price worth it? Or would you recommend me to buy the Z1? (I think Sony confirmed that all "Z" family will upgrade to Lollipop, right?)
Go for the Z1C!
In my opinion the difference is minor, but the price is much higer.
Xavali7 said:
Hello!
This Christmas I'mm gonna buy a new phone for myself. I'm really in love with Sony, and I also don't like more-than-5-inch displays, so the two options I'm considering are this phone (Z1 Compact) or the newer Z3 Compact.
The thing is, looking at specs, the biggest differences between them are a bit larger screen, a larger battery and the newer SD801 (in contrast with the SD800). I believe the camera sensor is the same, as is RAM, connectivity, etc.
I can buy the Z1 Compact from Amazon at 350€, or get it second-hand at 250-300€. However, the Z3 Compact I can get at Amazon for 460€, a bit less if I get it second-hand.
My question is: Is this difference in price worth it? Or would you recommend me to buy the Z1? (I think Sony confirmed that all "Z" family will upgrade to Lollipop, right?)
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I think this is something you only know the answer for, here is a detailed video that explains the differences between the two devices :
Though, if I were you, I'd go for Z3 Compact as a device (even after looking to the price)
but, if I wan't to chose in terms of software, I think I'd go with Z1 Compact
cuz I believe not many users that already have Z1c (like me) would wonna switch to the almost the same Z3c!
which means no devs are gonna be there as well
So as I said, your personal needs control what decision you should make
Regards,
Omar.
Z1c. As previously stated not much difference (bigger display, faster CPU, 4k video) but much higher price.
Best regards,
Coempi
as z1c owner, i would pay the difference for z3c.
the display size and dual speakers win it for me as major improvements in my eyes.
huge downside z3c cant be rooted with locked bootloader, you must unlock BL to root :/
i would go for the z3 compact if i never bought my z1 compact because of the ps4 remote play and daulshock 4 compatibility
If money is not a problem, go for Z3c all the way.
But if you consider the extra money Z3c asks for, then by buying the Z1c you won't feel really bad, the differences are minor in my opinion. Of course a bigger screen in the same body and a bigger battery would be welcome, but I don't think they are important enough to justify the price difference.
Buy the Z3c . It's better than the Z1c, but that does not mean the z1c is bad.
I think the z3c is worth the cost of the upgrade, but as a z1c owner I will not upgrade unless sony changes their policy on unlocking wrt DRM keys, or someone finds an exploit. Root isn't optional for me, but I'm not willing to tank my camera performance to get it, so I'm sticking with my z1c until something comes along in this form factor that is better and also non-destructively root-able.
Z1 compact owner here:
If you already have a Z1c = don't get the Z3c
If you don't already have a Z1c = get the Z3c
Quite simple brah
there is 2 issues with the camera on z1 compact.
1) LED bled, and black marker made it ugly on my white phone.
2) My camera freeze once in a while. And recently, it freeze when i try to take consecutive shots. (First shot ok, 2nd shot freeze)
Get the z3. And z3 has double tap to wake. I doubt ps4 game would look nice on such small screen though.
Thank you! I'm more decided now on buying the Z1C!
Honestly, I don't need the PS4 Remote Play function (don't own one, to begin with). Also, losing the DRM keys and general camera functionality when rooting is a real bummer.
I watched the video Omar posted, very helpful! Also, the Z1C will get 5.0 Lollipop in this coming year, as is all the Xperia Z family, right?
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Thank you! I'm more decided now on buying the Z1C!
Honestly, I don't need the PS4 Remote Play function (don't own one, to begin with). Also, losing the DRM keys and general camera functionality when rooting is a real bummer.
I watched the video Omar posted, very helpful! Also, the Z1C will get 5.0 Lollipop in this coming year, as is all the Xperia Z family, right?
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Yes don't worry Sony has promised to bring official Lolipop to Z1 Compact alongside with the rest of Z family (in next the February or so)
also, Z1 Compact will get official Lolipop support from many AOSP-Based ROMs, as soon as CyanogenMod team do so
As I mentioned no worries about software for Z1C, it should get more custom support than Z3C ever will
Regards,
Omar.
Not a worthy phone to buy for Rs.15,000 more
Me too was confused between z1c and z3c
But after a lot of searching and review,i decided to go for z1c
I could go for z3c if sony priced it less.
The sales man tried to convinced me to buy z3c,then i convinced him
Go for the white version gud luck
The main problem now is z3c needs unlock BL to get root so you will loss warranty and some of Sony features. If you need root or want to backup your TA before unlock BL, Z1c is more recommended.
There are many good stuffs on z3c like better battery life(bcoz of s801), a bit bigger screen, dual front speaker and 4K recording w/ video stabilization(our 4K mod no stabilization), a bit better camera focus and more light weight.
But z1c is really good for its lower price and the looking is better because of metal bumper it looks like more a premium design and I think the LED notification is also better on z1c.