My Tab S 8.4 doesn't come with Knox - does that mean I can root without tripping the - Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi XDA guys,
Bought my Galaxy Tab S 8.4 through Expansys UK and noticed that I don't have the Samsung Knox software installed. Anyone else have the same case? Does this mean I can root without any issue of tripping any counter? Is the private mode same as the Knox? Thanks in advance.
Jed
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I don't have a Knox app on mine either. But I think Knox lives at the bootloader level so it can still be tripped if rooted.
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Hello,
I have Galaxy Tab S SM-T705. I did not see any KNOX app on it but I found it in application manager. I rooted it then disappointment I have tripped KNOX.
Do you know where is KNOX app?
Go to setting - General - Security - Device administrators if it has KNOX then click on it for install or not.
I hope it will help you.
Sorry my bad English Grammar.

Thanks for all the reply and yeah I think Knox is somewhere out there. I have somehow made a decision that I will root which I always do but not until we have official Android L.
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jedskie said:
Thanks for all the reply and yeah I think Knox is somewhere out there. I have somehow made a decision that I will root which I always do but not until we have official Android L.
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Let's hope we'll get it. Don't know if tablets are covered in the Google update policy like phones.
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its not about google... its about samsung... if they dont decide to update it... or take longggggggg time to update it... we screwed like all old samsung abandon device baby brother tab 7.7

Well Google has a policy now that phones need to be supported for 18 months after release by the manufacturer. The question is whether it applies to tablets as well.
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Zamboney said:
Well Google has a policy now that phones need to be supported for 18 months after release by the manufacturer. The question is whether it applies to tablets as well.
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OT. Google won't hold OEM to it. As with many devices, they haven't in the past, only bother with the commercially viable ....

Zamboney said:
Well Google has a policy now that phones need to be supported for 18 months after release by the manufacturer. The question is whether it applies to tablets as well.
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it always been like that... samsung just never bother with it.... last time on 7.7 we wait for what? 2 years to get 4.2.2.. i kind of forgot...

edan1979 said:
it always been like that... samsung just never bother with it.... last time on 7.7 we wait for what? 2 years to get 4.2.2.. i kind of forgot...
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You mean 4.1.2.... For the 3G model only and only for Asian market (could manually flash with Odin though).
Unlike your 7.7 3G, my poor old 7.7 WiFi never got past ICS officially

UpInTheAir said:
You mean 4.1.2.... For the 3G model only and only for Asian market (could manually flash with Odin though).
Unlike your 7.7 3G, my poor old 7.7 WiFi never got past ICS officially
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I feel your pain. Love my 7.7. Actually been running daniel_hk's 4.4 HOMEMAKE OMNI ROM on the 7.7 for some time now. Pretty sweet FWIW.

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Galaxy Nexus Dual-Core Performance

Hey guys. I'm thinking about buying a new android phone. I have to chose between Galaxy Nexus, S2 and Htc SeNSATION.
I want to for Galaxy Nexus. but I'm wondering which will be the best for me.
I will use the phone mostly for gaming.
Which one should I choose ?? S2 has better performance for gaming but there is a big difference between it and GalaxyNexus, should I trade the little performance for the HD Display ?
AndyTimE said:
Hey guys. I'm thinking about buying a new android phone. I have to chose between Galaxy Nexus, S2 and Htc SeNSATION.
I want to for Galaxy Nexus. but I'm wondering which will be the best for me.
I will use the phone mostly for gaming.
Which one should I choose ?? S2 has better performance for gaming but there is a big difference between it and GalaxyNexus, should I trade the little performance for the HD Display ?
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Out of those three the galaxy nexus performs the best. It is the smoothest of the three.
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I think you should galaxy nexus is indeed a superb phone in that field
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shevich said:
I think you should galaxy nexus is indeed a superb phone in that field
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It is possible in future for Gnex to receive an Android 5.0 update or the hardware is too out-dated ?
AndyTimE said:
It is possible in future for Gnex to receive an Android 5.0 update or the hardware is too out-dated ?
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well all the phones you listed, the GN will prolly be the only one to ever see it officially
AndyTimE said:
It is possible in future for Gnex to receive an Android 5.0 update or the hardware is too out-dated ?
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Google would never abandon their baby. They're practically like a lioness, left the Nexus S to wander and grow on its own and will come back for it when KLP comes out. As for 5.0? Sammy and HTC can kiss updates goodbye, permanently. Those would probably never see the light of it.
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Misledz said:
Google would never abandon their baby. They're practically like a lioness, left the Nexus S to wander and grow on its own and will come back for it when KLP comes out. As for 5.0? Sammy and HTC can kiss updates goodbye, permanently. Those would probably never see the light of it.
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Nexus S is not getting official KLP
AndyTimE said:
Hey guys. I'm thinking about buying a new android phone. I have to chose between Galaxy Nexus, S2 and Htc SeNSATION.
I want to for Galaxy Nexus. but I'm wondering which will be the best for me.
I will use the phone mostly for gaming.
Which one should I choose ?? S2 has better performance for gaming but there is a big difference between it and GalaxyNexus, should I trade the little performance for the HD Display ?
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GNex for sure
Reason: Its a Nexus device okay?
i'd agree that the Galaxy Nexus is the best choice among those 3, and the only one that will see 5.0/KLP. i will say that the processor is showing its age a little bit, but i'm not the biggest TI fan.
No brainer bro, get the GN! Heck, I'll sell you mine. Just got a brand new one from Verizon cuz my old one's charging point went out (2 years old).
AndyTimE said:
It is possible in future for Gnex to receive an Android 5.0 update or the hardware is too out-dated ?
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Anyone who claims to have an answer to this is purely speculating. No one knows whether the GNex will see 5.0 or not. I hope yes... but after the Nexus One got abandoned, I'm not so sure the GNex will see 5.0
nexus s was abandoned already with android 4.1 (maybe because of 512 mb ram?)
so we already lucky to get 4.3
I don't have so much expectations to get 5.0..google is focusing a lot on nexus 4 / 7 / 10 ...our gnex is 2 years old, and the gpu is 3 years old, it's not slow, but useless to support..this is my thinking..we will see when 5.0 come out
Hey man, I'm interested in The Gnex, Do you think its still worth buying it? If so, i think youve got alot of knowledge, and im stuck with a galaxy Y, i want to change. Will the nexus be a good choice now? In Mid 2013? And if i get it, how long can it last with me being bored of it?
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Gnex is very good. Especially considering that you can get it for less than $200 out of contract on eBay.
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andQlimax said:
nexus s was abandoned already with android 4.1 (maybe because of 512 mb ram?)
so we already lucky to get 4.3
I don't have so much expectations to get 5.0..google is focusing a lot on nexus 4 / 7 / 10 ...our gnex is 2 years old, and the gpu is 3 years old, it's not slow, but useless to support..this is my thinking..we will see when 5.0 come out
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It was abandoned because 4.2 introduced the multi-user /0 folders. The Nexus S would need a full wipe (sd included) and they didn't want to push it out due to this. If it wasn't required to full wipe it during the OTA, it would've gotten it officially.
bmg1001 said:
It was abandoned because 4.2 introduced the multi-user /0 folders. The Nexus S would need a full wipe (sd included) and they didn't want to push it out due to this. If it wasn't required to full wipe it during the OTA, it would've gotten it officially.
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??
We got the same without full wipe.. Its not that
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Why are you guys telling the OP that the Gnex will get 5.0? Nexus devices only have 2 years of support.
As far as Google support, the Galaxy Nexus will get 4.3.X and no further. It's up to the community to put 5.0 on it.
CADude said:
Why are you guys telling the OP that the Gnex will get 5.0? Nexus devices only have 2 years of support.
As far as Google support, the Galaxy Nexus will get 4.3.X and no further. It's up to the community to put 5.0 on it.
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Well, to the custom roms!
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andQlimax said:
nexus s was abandoned already with android 4.1 (maybe because of 512 mb ram?)
so we already lucky to get 4.3
I don't have so much expectations to get 5.0..google is focusing a lot on nexus 4 / 7 / 10 ...our gnex is 2 years old, and the gpu is 3 years old, it's not slow, but useless to support..this is my thinking..we will see when 5.0 come out
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tru that its got old hardware but that doesnt mean we wont see 5.0, its al up to the developers ! if not official. im pretty sure we'll get an unofficial build
Galaxy Nexus for SURE dude.
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Multi user accounts?

I know it's built into stock android but didn't know if Samsung left it alone when doing it up in tw or if it's still there.
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Pretty sure it's gone. Looking for the article that mentioned accounts.
That's a bummer would really like to keep games separate other users
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I have heard that Samsung has implemented multi user accounts on 4.3 so this tablet should come with it but don't quote me on it lol
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There is no "users" option under settings.
ddavtian said:
There is no "users" option under settings.
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That sucks, maybe it's planned for future update. I have read a few reviews that claim that the new note tablet Comes with multi user
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Not Gone
dtsd said:
Pretty sure it's gone. Looking for the article that mentioned accounts.
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I can see it on my Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 WIFI version. but its no where to be found on the P605 Hong Kong version. I am in the USA. I am still on J6. I keep trying OTA update but it says all updates are already installed.
alynch75 said:
I can see it on my Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 WIFI version. but its no where to be found on the P605 Hong Kong version. I am in the USA. I am still on J6. I keep trying OTA update but it says all updates are already installed.
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Same as those of us in the UK, my guess would be that we are all going to stay on MJ6 until the new KK gets rolled out.
Yes I supose but I do have a wifi version 4.3 and it has multi user
Geordie Affy said:
Same as those of us in the UK, my guess would be that we are all going to stay on MJ6 until the new KK gets rolled out.
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I have a Note 10.1 2014 WiFi and it has 4.3 it also has multiuser..... I am using one of the accounts now. I have one set up for my wife and one for me.. Trust me its there. I know its also in a few of the other updates.. I guess depends on which update was pulled.

Firmware update for tab s 8.4 UK?

Anyone else in the UK or globally get a 40mb update today in the UK on their tab s 8.4?
Just updating now.
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What's it say is in the update?
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reubenskelly1992 said:
What's it say is in the update?
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Think it was just a stability update. Haven't noticed any changes.
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simacca said:
Think it was just a stability update. Haven't noticed any changes.
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Just bought mine today and the update came through. To be honest I am a little worried as the tablet gets hot even with minimal use. Anyone else noted this?
Cheers
Svenbee said:
Just bought mine today and the update came through. To be honest I am a little worried as the tablet gets hot even with minimal use. Anyone else noted this?
Cheers
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Mine does get warm pretty easy, but it's quite normal with the tablet being so thin. Nothing to worry about imo. It cools back down pretty quickly too.
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Weird though as my note 3 stays nice and cool. Having said that this one has a snapdragon whilst the tab has an exynos cpu.I saw an article where a Russian with this cpu got a bend battery cover due to overheating.
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Svenbee said:
Weird though as my note 3 stays nice and cool. Having said that this one has a snapdragon whilst the tab has an exynos cpu.I saw an article where a Russian with this cpu got a bend battery cover due to overheating.
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I had the tab pro 8.4 with the snapdragon before this, and that also got really warm depending on what I was using it for. I believe the Russian guy had a faulty unit as no other people have had the problem.
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simacca said:
Anyone else in the UK or globally get a 40mb update today in the UK on their tab s 8.4?
Just updating now.
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There was already a topic about this
Firmware-update Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4 T700XXU1ANF9 available
henklbr said:
There was already a topic about this
Firmware-update Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4 T700XXU1ANF9 available
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But wasn't that posted after my original post?
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simacca said:
But wasn't that posted after my original post?
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Oops: my fault (sleepy eyes, sorry)...
henklbr said:
Oops: my fault (sleepy eyes, sorry)...
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No worries, there's more info about the firmware in the other thread anyway. You made more of an effort by putting up the firmware info. I was just being lazy
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simacca said:
I had the tab pro 8.4 with the snapdragon before this, and that also got really warm depending on what I was using it for. I believe the Russian guy had a faulty unit as no other people have had the problem.
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All settled down now. I checked battery log and it turns out Google+ was busy scanning my 64gb a card I had previously stuffed full with photos and films ready for holiday trip which it catalogued and uploaded. There is still a notified lag/stutter in the launcher. I guess a custom rom may sort this out. Otherwise quite impressed with the screen when viewing the pics from my full frame dslr on it.
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Svenbee said:
All settled down now. I checked battery log and it turns out Google+ was busy scanning my 64gb a card I had previously stuffed full with photos and films ready for holiday trip which it catalogued and uploaded. There is still a notified lag/stutter in the launcher. I guess a custom rom may sort this out. Otherwise quite impressed with the screen when viewing the pics from my full frame dslr on it.
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Thats good. One of the first things I did was remove google+ as I never use it. There is minimal stutter and lag, but this is very common on Samsung products. They need a massive makeover on their front end imo. I do like TouchWiz though.
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It Arrived Early

Got mine delivered today (8/19). After having all 4 Notes this is my first non Note phone in 4 years. Always bought the Note series for screen size and powerful hardware, and not the S-pen which I never used except to try it out and screw around, so yea, it's not important to me.
If you want to use Samsung pay, don't root. I read an article from chainfire if you root you can't use Samsung pay. Even if you unroot you still can't use it because knox is triggered to 1
Well for me this phone looks like a note . If we are talking about the size. Btw ....amazing and powerful device. I got mine yesterday. Cant wait for root. I dont use or plan to use samsung pay. I would like to debloat this baby!!
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There's a site that has root working but for other devices though I sure wish someone could use that info there and share it here.
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T-Mobile Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Gets LL 5.0 Update

Alright, where is the wifi version!??!?!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-1-2014-and-tab-4-from-kitkat-to-android-5-0/
It's Exynos there's better hope seeing santa claus this christmas than wishing for lollipop on wifi.
morphfxf said:
It's Exynos there's better hope seeing santa claus this christmas than wishing for lollipop on wifi.
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Tab S 10.5 , Note Pro, Tab Pro are all Exynos too and they all got the update to Lollipop, some to 5.1.
In fact they run the exact same Exynos as us, so there's not much work to be done (in that regard) anyways...
So -yeah- nothing to do with it being Exynos... In fact I'd be much surprised if we were not to get Lolipop too. It's Samsung's pattern, their last update is greeeatly overdue but they eventually deliver. Of course we'll never get Marshmallow as it's over the 2 year window during which Samsung typically supports her products... and then they wonder why Apple is No1 in profits. Ipad 2, a 4.5 year old device and it is still getting updates (ios 4.2.1 to ios 9+ !!)
Yeah I know! It was a joke.
Stevethegreat said:
Tab S 10.5 , Note Pro, Tab Pro are all Exynos too and they all got the update to Lollipop, some to 5.1.
In fact they run the exact same Exynos as us, so there's not much work to be done (in that regard) anyways...
So -yeah- nothing to do with it being Exynos... In fact I'd be much surprised if we were not to get Lolipop too. It's Samsung's pattern, their last update is greeeatly overdue but they eventually deliver. Of course we'll never get Marshmallow as it's over the 2 year window during which Samsung typically supports her products... and then they wonder why Apple is No1 in profits. Ipad 2, a 4.5 year old device and it is still getting updates (ios 4.2.1 to ios 9+ !!)
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morphfxf said:
Yeah I know! It was a joke.
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Oh sorry, didn't notice. Sarcasm is sometimes hard to conveyed through text...
Well, at least they kept their promise...
I agree though that 5.1.1 would have been nice at this point. Hell, my LG prepaid phone (which was also only $100) got its first Lollipop update BEFORE this $500 tablet.
Interested to see this update in action though, I hope it gets to the SM-P600 within the next week.
Haven't received it yet, but I think I am sticking with KitKat, with all the Bluetooth audio issues I have had with both my Note Pro and my Note 4, I like that my audio doesn't skip.
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It´s 5.1.1 not 5.0.2
It is Android 5.1.1, NOT 5.0.2. The new device simulator is posted here.
https://publish.samsungsimulator.com...-b2c81fb1d11e/
http://forum.youmobile.org/downloads/?sa=view&down=6351 soon will be avaliable.
they are uploading.
Yoshi1221 said:
Haven't received it yet, but I think I am sticking with KitKat, with all the Bluetooth audio issues I have had with both my Note Pro and my Note 4, I like that my audio doesn't skip.
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Just received after leaving the tablet off
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Update went straight to 5.1.1
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Nice.
can you confirm what are the new features and perfomance?
thanks
Yoshi1221 said:
Just received after leaving the tablet off
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First thing right off the bat, comparing to the exynos on the Note pro 12.2, had some lag issues, Google play store issues, but could have been a bad download. As far as new features, very similar features to the Note Pro's 5.0.2. Only thing that is not there is the toolbox bar which can save up to 5 favorite apps. I will test the Bluetooth to see if it skips like the Note Pro and the Note 4.
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Side-by-side comparison of the settings left is Note 10.1 2014, right is Note Pro 12.2 with exynos processor
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Maybe you need to do a full wipe (factory reset) via recovery.. (to resolve lag and google play issues)
Can you tell me if has popup windows (like note 4 and note 12.2 5.02)?
Thanks.
Yoshi1221 said:
First thing right off the bat, comparing to the exynos on the Note pro 12.2, had some lag issues, Google play store issues, but could have been a bad download. As far as new features, very similar features to the Note Pro's 5.0.2. Only thing that is not there is the toolbox bar which can save up to 5 favorite apps. I will test the Bluetooth to see if it skips like the Note Pro and the Note 4.
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Updated my P607T to 5.1.1 ODIN
I was running Besonderes 5.0.2 but decided to upgrade to the official version... and pleasantly surprised to find the ODIN version of 5.1.1 on sammobile for my T-Mobile P607T..
Did the update via ODIN but it did not do full wipe... The TouchWiz kept force closing, and I did a factory reset/wipe via recovery. Now it seems to be running fine so far.. It is too early to tell if battery life improved, etc..
Yep, it has pop-up window
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Very nice!
Thanks for answering.
My hope that 5.1.1 would come for all sm-p600's model too (sm-p601, sm-p600 and sm-p605).
:fingers-crossed:
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Yep, it has pop-up window
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Downloaded OTA, but now I can not get Twrp to stick. When I flasb Twrp it says it passed but as soon as it boots up it reverts back to stock recovery. Anyone have a solution?
Is there any hope for SM-P601 give lollipop update?

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