[Q] Anyone have the Gear 2 before the Moto? - Moto 360

Wondering if any of you guys have had the Gear 2 before purchasing the Moto 360.
I'm interested in the round screen as well as Android Wear. But I'm not able to really find any reviews of someone who has really used both devices day in and day out.
I've have Pebble, loved it! But never put it back on after the Gear 2 purchase. I don't think Tizen is a lost cause, I see new apps coming out all the time. But, I think maybe Android Wear is the way to go, for the long haul.
So, has anyone used both devices for some period of time?
Thanks!

jb4lsu said:
Wondering if any of you guys have had the Gear 2 before purchasing the Moto 360.
I'm interested in the round screen as well as Android Wear. But I'm not able to really find any reviews of someone who has really used both devices day in and day out.
I've have Pebble, loved it! But never put it back on after the Gear 2 purchase. I don't think Tizen is a lost cause, I see new apps coming out all the time. But, I think maybe Android Wear is the way to go, for the long haul.
So, has anyone used both devices for some period of time?
Thanks!
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I have used both, and I liked the Gear 2 better. The software is just much more functional, and battery life is great.
Also, the Gear 2 had some neat features that the 360 didn't have (camera, speaker, IR blaster to control all of your audio/video equipment etc...).
I still think Android Wear will be the way to go, but for now it's not as useful as the Gear IMHO...

I had the 360 and went to the Gear 2. It is a much better and refined watch in my opinion. The Speaker, Amoled screen as well as the Android like Tizen, provide a pleasant experience for me. And the incredible battery life, wow! Doing chores around my house while waiting to talk to a customer support agent on my watch is such a revolutionary thing for me as well.

I had the opposite experience.
Camera function is useless on Gear 2.
You can't feel the vibration when you're doing anything with your hands using the G2.
Never bothered to use the IR because the OS on the G2 is clunky and slow.
I do miss the speaker option because you can take calls.
And battery life.
App support for the G2 is AWFUL.
S-Voice is horrible and slow.
G2 is much heavier, but the band is better (debatable).
I can go on for days, but I only had the 360 for almost 24hrs now so I'm still getting used to it.

Is camera function that bad? Since I don't have a waterproof phone I thought having a camera on my risk for our doors and pool beach play with the kids
would be a great solution. I dont really need the picture quality to be perfect or SLR quality but enough for social sharing. Pls comment .. Tq
I hear google voice search can be made to works too on the G2 so I suppose there can still be some google integration.
bubblebuddyi said:
I had the opposite experience.
Camera function is useless on Gear 2.
You can't feel the vibration when you're doing anything with your hands using the G2.
Never bothered to use the IR because the OS on the G2 is clunky and slow.
I do miss the speaker option because you can take calls.
And battery life.
App support for the G2 is AWFUL.
S-Voice is horrible and slow.
G2 is much heavier, but the band is better (debatable).
I can go on for days, but I only had the 360 for almost 24hrs now so I'm still getting used to it.
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fylim said:
Is camera function that bad? Since I don't have a waterproof phone I thought having a camera on my risk for our doors and pool beach play with the kids
would be a great solution. I dont really need the picture quality to be perfect or SLR quality but enough for social sharing. Pls comment .. Tq
I hear google voice search can be made to works too on the G2 so I suppose there can still be some google integration.
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Here's a link to the Gear 2 thread to "Show off your pics".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2722717
They look pretty good to me!

I had the gear 2 and now I have the moto 360, this is a trade off at the moment, as far as voice recognition moto is much better, the style I think is much better. The gear 2 is like a swiss army knife, it's much more feature packed and its management of emails and text is better.
If andoid wear catches up the moto will surpass gear 2
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fylim said:
Is camera function that bad? Since I don't have a waterproof phone I thought having a camera on my risk for our doors and pool beach play with the kids
would be a great solution. I dont really need the picture quality to be perfect or SLR quality but enough for social sharing. Pls comment .. Tq
I hear google voice search can be made to works too on the G2 so I suppose there can still be some google integration.
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The camera is quite good. It also take 720p video. No Google now as of yet, unless you use Tasker.

Spartiatis said:
I had the gear 2 and now I have the moto 360, this is a trade off at the moment, as far as voice recognition moto is much better, the style I think is much better. The gear 2 is like a swiss army knife, it's much more feature packed and its management of emails and text is better.
If andoid wear catches up the moto will surpass gear 2
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I too had both. And agree with the above statement.

I don't personally have a Gear 2, but a friend of mine does.
The camera isn't very good. And honestly I cannot for the life of me figure out why you'd use it over your phone unless you were trying to do something devious. The one time my friend used it that was some what useful was to take a picture of our parking lot area number when we were at a convention.
But I mean...I had my phone out and could have done it in two seconds.
I don't quite get people wanting to replace their phone with a smart watch.
If you said "Gear 2 has better battery life, that's why I went with it", no debate, totally understand that.
But to say you like it better for a speaker and a camera? Geesh.
As someone who has seen both watches in use...
Gear 2, better battery life, wouldn't be caught dead in public wearing it (my friend looks like a dork among dorks).
360, looks like an actual watch, worse battery.
That's it.

The gear 2 is a completely crippled piece of hardware. In typical Samsung fashion they just cram it with as many features as possible hoping that at least one of them will grab someones attention so they can make the sale. Funny how this amazing strategy clearly isn't working when they are showing losses as of last quarter.
The crippling I'm referring to is Tizen, which will be obsolete in 6 months or less. How arrogant of Samsung to think they can write thier own OS and take on Android. They can't even get their android based OS down, and now they are writing a new OS from scratch?
And the nail in the coffin is s voice. One of the worst user experiences I have ever seen. Its slow, unintelligent, and not helpful in any way whatsoever. You can't even respond to an email wtih the gear 2.... Give me a break. I respond to everything on my Android wear watch, including chat programs such as groupme. Better battery life on the gear 2? Yes. S voice? Blows the entire package out of the water.

Have the Gear 2 Neo, just picked up the Moto last night to try.
Design: Clearly Moto Wins with round display.
Display Quality: Gear 2, so much better just not round.
Voice Recognition: Moto hands down
Interface Usability: Gear 2 is so much easier to use aside from voice control. Android Wear is so immature
Battery Life: Not even a competition, 4 Days+ on the Gear 2, after 10 hours I'm at 40% on the Moto.
Apps: Gear 2 by a hair, but both suck
Charger: Moto Charger is very cool, Gear 2 is annoying
Calls: Moto is Useless, No speaker, if you want to answer calls your only choice is Gear 2.
Messaging: Moto wins only because it will let you reply to Hangouts which is all I use, both are really bad as messaging
Performance: Gear 2 wins, Moto lags a lot
Watch faces: Gear 2 has far more options for customizing watch
Navigation: Both are terrible right now, but Gear 2 with a speaker has clear potential advantage. Moto will always be useless.
Gear 2 features you can't replicate on Moto:
IR control, kind of a gimmick, but fun to play with at your local bar and drive you bartender nuts
Voice call, ummm Android Wear, what were you thinking.
Summary:
The Moto is a beautiful watch, but between the battery life and the lack of a speaker I will probably return it and stick with my Gear 2, it's just a more useable mature product.

gorillaz1 said:
I don't personally have a Gear 2, but a friend of mine does.
The camera isn't very good. And honestly I cannot for the life of me figure out why you'd use it over your phone unless you were trying to do something devious.
That's it.
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A few situations come to mind where you don't want to risk your phone flying out of your hands. Roller coasters, surfing, Sky diving to name a few. Maybe your life is too boring. Lol. Personally I like the design of the Gear 2 better. The 360 looked like a hockey puck strapped to my wrist.

Some little nit pickey things
I traded my gear 2 for this. Everyone is right about battery life it does suck. Like 10-12 hour suck if your lucky. On the gear 2 you get a notification and if you ignored it it would go of the main screen. Basically if you ignored the notification and the display went dark next time you flick you wrist you would have a clear view of the time. With the 360 no matter how many times you flick your wrist that notification is still there and it wont go away without swiping it away which gets old after a while. I kinda miss the speaker and dedicated away from the phone for a while music player. Can't speak for the vibration problems people are having and ir blaster since I didn't use much to care if it wasn't there. My kids are mad because no camera now but not that big a deal to me. One last thing it comes with a day one update that needs 80 percent to attempt. Mine came out of the box at 6 percent. That reminds me it get wildly inconsistent charging rates. Sometimes it's like 30 minutes to 100 percent other times it sitting on the charger all night and I go to leave and it won't turn on because it stopped charging for some reason. But anyway you can't even use thing as a watch until the update it just says it won't connect. The screen is nice but not for the trade off the we are getting with battery life. Would I still trade my gear 2 for this. Yes best solely on looks right now. Maybe software can fix some of what's wrong

I also went back to my gear 2....I loved the 360 look feel etc, but it was hard to justify the 250 price tag....also considering how hard I am on devices I think I'll just use the gear 2 into the ground and hopefully by then something that comfortably gets me through the day with battery is out. I do drive 3-4 hours a day or more so maybe the crappy battery life has to do with that. It is almost a full day but when I am afraid to look at my watch so I can conserve battery I think it loses its usefulness.

Is it worth it to trade my gear 2 for a moto 360?

I had gear 2 neo before having the moto 360... The only thing that I see gear neo is better that is battery life and the screen as Amoled.. Other than that it a useless especially the tizen OS!

Thought about getting a gear 2 but biggest most massive issue with any of samsung none wear watches are you gotta have a Samsung Device and I've got a nexus 5. Have a lg g watch with my 360 I rarely use the g watch even though it has a better cpu.
Samsung is also really really bad about updating their devices or even providing proper organized device source so you could make a update yourself.
Argument on a speaker on your watch I find silly rather have a nice Bluetooth headset lot less background noise. Heck I'm looking at the bragi dash when they come out!

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Should I sell my galaxy gear and pick up a moto360

Have option to sell my galaxy gear for 100 bucks and pick up 360 for 200. I dont use camera or speaker on gear very much... Sometimes however i could live without.
Picking up a nexus in a couple weeks to replace my galaxy s4. Dont feel like going through trouble of getting gear and nexus to work together...
What do you guys think. I use my watch mostly for time,date and most importantly recieving amd sending text messages...
I say stay with the Gear if you don't love the Moto for it's design. Probably you'll get many good advices but no one could serve your needs.
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I say stay with the Gear if you don't love the Moto for it's design. Probably you'll get many good advices but no one could serve your needs.
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Indeed. The only issue is connectivity with the gear and nexus. Isnt offically support and im pretty sure svoice(voice response) wont work right without touchwiz... At least thats what ive read from people connecting galaxy gear and nexus 5. Voice reply to text is a must for me. I only paid 130$ for the gear new..(open box best buy) so 100$ isnt a terrible resell.
Thanks for your opinon:good:
P.s. I do LOVE the black moto 360 design compared to the gray galaxy gear I have. Only color they had open box.
fired the trigger, picked up a moto 360 today and sold the galaxy gear. i feel like android wear is a little difficult to navigate but im sure i will grow accustomed to it.
Good work. I have both and I can say that atm the Galaxy Gear does more than the 360 however longer term I think Android Wear has more going for it. Also theres a lot more connectivity options with Android wear, as you've mentioned. Which colour Moto 360 did you get?
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Good work. I have both and I can say that atm the Galaxy Gear does more than the 360 however longer term I think Android Wear has more going for it. Also theres a lot more connectivity options with Android wear, as you've mentioned. Which colour Moto 360 did you get?
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Yeah it was a little hard to navigate at first, but ive came around to android wear. the gear forsure gets much better battery life and does do more things, but those things(camera and speaker) seem a little gimmicky, the speaker did come in handy when i was using both hands, but i hated using it in public and the camera is okay for some stuff but its quality isnt the best and i usually have my phone so no reason not to use it.
All in all in glad i made the switch, the only thing that bugs me right now about the moto360 is you cant make the vibration longer, the notification is SO short.
I got the black one, open box deal for 217. still had plastic on bottom of it. Planning on getting pebble band soon
on2a said:
Good work. I have both and I can say that atm the Galaxy Gear does more than the 360 however longer term I think Android Wear has more going for it. Also theres a lot more connectivity options with Android wear, as you've mentioned. Which colour Moto 360 did you get?
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I agree. I had the Gear 2 and the Moto 360 doesn't do half as much half as easily and for half as long, but I couldn't stand running stock-based Sammy ROMs any more, and Android Wear will be the future so it should improve on all fronts. And it just looks better, lol

[Q] Smartwatch/Wearable Tech Advice

Hello G3 Family :highfive:;
I am reaching out to you today to request some advice from anyone who owns a smart-watch or any wearable tech could share a brief story/review of that item and whether or not you would recommend purchasing it or not.
I know that wearables and smart-watches are making their way into the technology market, but for those of you, like myself, who have a strong desire to buy one might provide some useful tips and advice for us!
Some smart-watches/wearables I was looking towards would be:
LG G Watch R
Microsoft Fitness Band
Fitbit Charge HR
Jawbone Up3
Galaxy Gear Watch
Pebble Steel
Let me know your thoughts and thanks for your input!
Sony Smart Watch 2. Awesome battery life. Might be cheaper to get too.
LG Watch R here.
I am now on 36 hours with my battery. I love it, really a positive user here. It is still a gadget, doesnt really add something. I am Dutch, so the google now experience isnt that good.
I'm a pebble guy my self I have had it for over a year and still loving it. Battery life last me 5-7 days!
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Pebble Steel
I just got the Pebble Steel for Christmas and have been in love!!! (Should have gotten it when it was first offered, almost a year ago)
Things I like: Battery Life, Always On Display, Shake wrist for backlight, Vibrating Notifications, Dressier/Professional Look, Remote Controlling Apps(music, camera) Quick SMS replies.
Things I don't like: Requires more than the Pebble App(which is nice) to make use of extra features that other "watch apps" use, such as Glance, Pebble Dialer, etc.
I wish that the Pebble App on the G3 or any phone did the same features that the other 3rd party apps do.
to all pebble users:
i am a pebble user myself but i can't handle the noticable battery drain when pebble services are up and running
is it just me and my g3 or most of you experience the same?
w/o pebble i can achieve 4 hours of SOT and with pebble on, reaching 3 and a half is nearly impossible
Also pebble user over here, original pebble that is. Have been using a galaxy gear first gen and although it was a fun device with its camera and built in speaker it wasn't nearly as functional as the pebble. As others said here: multiple days of battery life, notifications with canned replies, music control, background pedometer I love it all.
Did notice some heavier battery drain due to the constant Bluetooth connection and pebble services but that is quite understandable.
I do get about 18 hours of use with about 3.5 hours sot. That is with all sorts of syncing activated and mostly a (bad) 3g connection.
Lg gwatch R for me.
Great battery and design
Works perfectly
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I got the lg watch w100. Pretty basic device and great for starter. And cheap got mine for 50$ new in box and stickers still attached.
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Even though it wasn't on your list, I'm a new Moto 360 owner (had it for 14 days now). I love it. I got the light finish metal, but have since acquired a few other bands and I like that I can change them depending on how I want it to look or what I'll be doing (for example, I have a synthetic band I use when I'm exercising or running). Battery life could be better, but evidently it's better than it used to be. I can get through the day on regular mode, but if I use ambient I'll probably need to charge before the end of the day. A lot depends on the number of notifications you get. Obviously having Bluetooth on all day impacts the battery life on my G3, but it's still plenty enough for me. And I can always swap in the extra battery that LG was kind enough to give away last fall. I just think it looks cool - especially my current setup of the silver watch paired with a brown leather cuff-style band.
I debated buying one for the longest time, but after getting a couple Beat Buy gift cards for Christmas I decided to pull the trigger and I'm glad I did. It's definitely an unnecessary luxury item - more fashionable nerd tech than a practical item. But it's fun. Currently I'm slightly obsessed with designing my own faces in WatchMaker and hunting for the work of others. I think I've had at least 3 different faces on my watch everyday for the past two weeks.
Enjoy your potential purchase!
Pebble owner here. I recharge mine about every 7 days, but reckon I could get close to 10 out of it (was just ~4 before I realised I shouldn't have seconds showing). Not found any particular battery drain on my phone - but then we have poor wireless and signal at work so that normally hammers my battery.
LG GWR for me. It works really well with the inbuilt LG fitness app and gives you real time heart rate tracking.
H00pyFr00d said:
LG GWR for me. It works really well with the inbuilt LG fitness app and gives you real time heart rate tracking.
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How long does your battery typically last?
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The phone about a day and a half. The watch just over two days.
Rodeojones said:
Even though it wasn't on your list, I'm a new Moto 360 owner (had it for 14 days now). I love it. I got the light finish metal, but have since acquired a few other bands and I like that I can change them depending on how I want it to look or what I'll be doing (for example, I have a synthetic band I use when I'm exercising or running). Battery life could be better, but evidently it's better than it used to be. I can get through the day on regular mode, but if I use ambient I'll probably need to charge before the end of the day. A lot depends on the number of notifications you get. Obviously having Bluetooth on all day impacts the battery life on my G3, but it's still plenty enough for me. And I can always swap in the extra battery that LG was kind enough to give away last fall. I just think it looks cool - especially my current setup of the silver watch paired with a brown leather cuff-style band.
I debated buying one for the longest time, but after getting a couple Beat Buy gift cards for Christmas I decided to pull the trigger and I'm glad I did. It's definitely an unnecessary luxury item - more fashionable nerd tech than a practical item. But it's fun. Currently I'm slightly obsessed with designing my own faces in WatchMaker and hunting for the work of others. I think I've had at least 3 different faces on my watch everyday for the past two weeks.
Enjoy your potential purchase!
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Wow, where did you get that leather strap? That looked awesome!
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Wow, where did you get that leather strap? That looked awesome!
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It's from an old broken Fossil watch I kept for some reason. Glad I did.

[Q] Should I get one?

Hi,
I'm hoping to buy an android wear smartwatch soon but I'm torn between the Moto 360 and LG Urbane. I'm leaning towards the Moto 360 mainly for the larger screen and wireless charging. But not 100% keen on the bottom bar even though I know it's needed and the design can't work without it but does spoil the design somewhat though some watch faces seem to work well with it.
I generally prefer the design of the 360 over the Urbane, though screen is slightly better resolution on the Urbane thought would prefer the bigger screen. I just want to know what the Moto 360 is like to use daily and if the bottom bar really is much of an issue and would you rather get the Urbane?
mikesaa309 said:
Hi,
I'm hoping to buy an android wear smartwatch soon but I'm torn between the Moto 360 and LG Urbane. I'm leaning towards the Moto 360 mainly for the larger screen and wireless charging. But not 100% keen on the bottom bar even though I know it's needed and the design can't work without it but does spoil the design somewhat though some watch faces seem to work well with it.
I generally prefer the design of the 360 over the Urbane, though screen is slightly better resolution on the Urbane thought would prefer the bigger screen. I just want to know what the Moto 360 is like to use daily and if the bottom bar really is much of an issue and would you rather get the Urbane?
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Not much of an issue to me.. I guess its personal. I realize something that I prefer in the Moto 360. In comparison to the LG watch R, the cards in it tends to get cut off, which it will not happen in moto 360.
Just got a black one yest from a closing radio shack for 125. I already have a pebble steel, but i kinda like the android wear exp.
I got one today. I returned a pebble steel with a broken button. I've had it for a few hours now. I will be returning it this evening and getting another Pebble Steel. If I can convince them to give me a full refund, I might wait for the Pebble Time.
When I brought the 360 home, it was at 12% battery life. This was to be expected. I was able to turn it on for about 30 seconds before auto-shutdown. I set a timer. It took 2 hours and 33 minutes to fully charge. It immediately wanted to upgrade after turning it on and completing setup. (v5.0.2)
It has been 4 hours and I'm down to 27%. Granted I've used the watch more than I normally would as I get used to the menus, but this is not acceptable. If I reduce it to what I consider to be normal use, it will not last the day.
The watch is glitchy and doesn't always register touch. When I am able to navigate to the menu I want, the watch will frequently and randomly vibrate and shut itself off while I'm in the middle of something (the same behavior as it I had covered it with my palm). This is beyond annoying.
About 50% of the time, the watch fails to turn the display on when I lift my arm (the standard lift and rotate gesture shown on the youtube videos). I've put this through extensive testing, and the exact same gesture (what I've found to be the most effective) is only effective about 50% of the time.
The heart rate monitor doesn't work. The strap is on tight and I have actually cleared a part of my arm of hair to test it. I have never been able to get a successful heart rate. I even got my girlfriend to try it. The lights on the back come on, but nobody is home.
Most of the best watch faces and apps require a purchase. I suppose this is by intention (the designers do deserve to profit from their designs). But the real annoyance is that there is a lot of bait-and-charge software too. Software that claims to be free on the Play store, only to find it severely handicapped until you pay via an in-app purchase. AFAIK this is a big kick in the teeth for the Android Wear community and a major drawback. It won't turn away the hardened Android fan-boys who already have invested in the apps they like, but it will turn of a lot of people on the fence. If you are gonna charge for your app, at least be up-front about it. Its shady as hell.
Furthermore, I've detected that there appears to be a lot of very similar watch faces. The comments and reviews indicate that there is rampant design theft and doesn't appear to be any checks in place to prevent this. As such, I have no idea that when I am purchasing a watch app, that I'm giving money to the original artist or a plagiarist.
Not all circular watch faces will render correctly. The "flat tire" utility bay will cut some of them off.
The watch is not visible in direct sunlight. I don't care what the reviews say. I was outside in the bright sunlight today and I could barely read the watch face.
The vibration is not strong enough. When the Pebble Steel vibrated, it was very strong, but not intrusively so. This watch I can hardly even feel when I'm expecting it. Not acceptable.
Step counter doesn't work, but this is to be expected. Even the Pebble Steel was off. I've always maintained that wrist based pedometers are a fad and can't tell what your legs are doing.
Sorry for being critical, but you did presumably ask for honest opinions. I suppose it is subjective, but the 360 isn't for me. It feels very Beta. Maybe the 360 2 will get it right, but this watch is a pass IMO.
I been wanting a new gadget to play with.
I bought someone's NIB black refurb off CL for $120. So far it's been a cool experience. I don't regret my purchase. YMMV it's a personal thing.
I bought a SONY smart watch. Turned it on, could figure out anything, couldn't get it pair. Turn it off, left it in the shopping bag somewhere.
pacificwing said:
Sorry for being critical, but you did presumably ask for honest opinions. I suppose it is subjective, but the 360 isn't for me. It feels very Beta. Maybe the 360 2 will get it right, but this watch is a pass IMO.
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Anyone with a 360 could have told you now was not the time to buy...
Motorola still haven't figured out the 5.1 update, and the previous update seriously hurt battery life and the tilt-to-wake function. Right now we're all in the same boat, just trying to keep the thing working properly till the end of the day...
The original software on the 360 was very responsive and had good battery life so we know it can work, but our only hope now is that Motorola's team of trained chimpanzee coders manages to set it right.

Would you buy one today?

Hey everyone,
So I like to bike maybe once a week and have typically used Map My Ride or Strava to, well, map my rides. But I'm on Project Fi now so am becoming a miser with my data. I was thinking of getting a SW3 and using GhostRacer and the built in GPS to handle that but wanted to see if it is still worth it. I know the 360 Sport is around but the reviews haven't been stellar. Assuming the price is in the $100-$125 range is it still worth it?
I do also go to the gym a couple of days a week so keeping music on the watch and using headphones is a plus as well.
Thanks,
I owned both SW3 and Moto 360 Sport, however I just sold the 360 Sport yesterday because the battery drained on it a lot faster than on the SW3. I prefered the look of the Moto 360 Sport over the SW3 even though I own the SS, Universal strap and silicone strap for the SW3. Both are also water resistant.
Here is a breakdown of pro and cons.
The display of both watches are similar other than round vs square, however the Moto display is a bit nicer with more vibrant colors and while in ambient mode it's in color vs b&w.
Moto 360 Sport also has a built in optical HR monitor SW3 does not.
SW3 has replaceable watch band, infinite combination, Moto 360 Sport comes in White, Black, and Orange and you can not replace the bands.
Again, battery life is night and day better on the SW3 additionally you can charge is with any Micro USB cable vs a proprietary wireless charger. Additionally SW3 charges really fast, almost 2X faster than Moto 360 Sport.
SW3 has built in NFC, you can't do much with it now but future updates may give you more options.
I haven't used either watch with the headphones, so I can't comment on that aspect of the watch.
So I would say go with SW3 and save some money, you'll have no regrets.
Had the SW3 for about 6 months now and I love it. I use it for tracking runs, playing music paired with BT headphones and for keeping track of my appointments. It's great for the price, but I suggest holding out a while longer until announcements for support (or lack thereof) for Android Wear 2.0 come out. Motorola has confirmed it won't be getting the software update for the 1st gen Moto360, so there's a good chance the SW3 won't either..so you might be better off getting one of the newer models. I'm thinking the price might still go down if it won't support AW 2.0, but if it does, at the current price it's a steal.
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Motorola has confirmed it won't be getting the software update for the 1st gen Moto360, so there's a good chance the SW3 won't either..so you might be better off getting one of the newer models.
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Because first gen has bad processor and bad battery.
SW3 has same processor than Moto 2nd gen and other actual wear watch.
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Because first gen has bad processor and bad battery.
SW3 has same processor than Moto 2nd gen and other actual wear watch.
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I won't get my hopes up. It may have the hardware requirements , but seeing as the SW3 was the last of the 1st gen devices to get the recent android update, Sony may not be too keen on putting any more effort into the device. Still a great device for the price it's going for now though, and a good entry point into Android Wear for minimal $. Just bear in mind that when purchasing any piece of tech, it's bound to become obsolete in a year or so, simply because that's how fast technology is evolving. Hardly anything is future-proof these days.
I have this watch for a couple of months now and yes I absolutely love it. Might even buy a second one, for no other reason than having a spare, just in case. I'm sad that smart watches aren't really popular - I'd love to have a SW3 with better hardware and a heart rate sensor - but this watch is great. I use it for stuff like skating and thanks to the great location tracking, I can safely leave my phone at home, and when I'm back it will sync my whole route. This took a looong time the last time I did it, but ok, I rode for 30km so that's probably a lot of data to sync. Now I can see my entire route back on Google Fit. I really love that.
As a sysadmin I also use my watch for easy notifications, and for dispatching tasks to Tasker, using WearTasker. It's great that I don't need to take my phone each time I get a notification. This also applies to when I'm driving - using my phone when I'm on the road is something I absolutely never do, and now, when I get a message, I get it on my watch, so at least I can see if it's something urgent.
The voice capabilities work well enough to also make this a lovable feature.
The rubber wrist band fits nicely. I also bought a, what's the name, the plastic thing in which you can fit a band of your own choice. But I like the rubber band a lot more.
The display works great with a screen protector and the light sensor also works good.
All in all.. what's there not to love about this watch?
Have had mine for about seven months now. Overall I'm very happy with the watch and will probably (hopefully) keep it for a long time.
I'm most impressed by the battery life, which is great, and the durability of the display. I'm very neurotic about my phone's screen, always using tempered glass protectors, but I've worn the SW3 without any kind of screen condom pretty much all the time for over half a year, and the display still looks like brand spanking new. Thing is tough, is what I'm saying.
I just went through all of this myself when my original SW3 broke. I went through all of the available smartwatches and started narrowing them down. I like running but hate taking my phone because of its size (6p). I found an awesome Amazon Warehouse deal on a 360 Sport. The band is a deal breaker. Plain and simple. Its awful. Everything sticks to it and it was uncomfortable for me. This wouldn't be an issue normally, but you cannot replace the band...ever. Also, potential issue with the 360 Sport is IP67 water resistance vs IP68 on the Sony SW3.
I also tried the Samsung Gear S due to its IP68 rating and heart rate. While the fit and finish is above and beyond what the SW3 has to offer, I missed the always-on TFT screen, Wear, Google Now (voice commands work amazingly well), and my customized Watchmaker Premium face (with Tasker integration .
I would still choose the SW3 today due to these things: battery life (2 days not uncommon), TFT display (always on without killing battery-visible in direct sunlight), ambient light sensor (I'm looking at you Huawei and Asus), microUSB charging (yes, it's kinda a pain, but you can charge anywhere-getting a right-angle USB cable helps make it less annoying to plug in), and interchangeable bands (I have 2 bands now. They are comfortable for me and quick clasp). Lack of heart rate does not bother me b/c I don't think any wrist-based HR is accurate enough to matter.
Note: I use my SW3 with headphones all the time. Works great. Syncing music is cake with Play Music, though, since it has USB, I would prefer if it supported MTP and you could just drag and drop whatever straight to the device. Definitely not a problem, just annoying to have to wait for all your offline music to sync over BT.
My main issue with my SW3 is the very very.... poor readability indoor in dim mode. With low light it is very difficult to read. And with only black & white dim mode most of the wear face are very bad. Even the pebble time LCD screen color is much better
Good outdoor 1% of the time but bad indoor 99% of the time.
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My main issue with my SW3 is the very very.... poor readability indoor in dim mode. With low light it is very difficult to read. And with only black & white dim mode most of the wear face are very bad. Even the pebble time LCD screen color is much better
Good outdoor 1% of the time but bad indoor 99% of the time.
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I will say that the LCD in the SW3 is not the best for viewing angles and resolution. However, readability is never an issue for me. The main reason is the ambient light sensor. I tried a Zenwatch 2 (which is a nice watch for the money), but the lack of the ambient light sensor meant the screen was always too dim or too bright. I don't want to fiddle with brightness every time I go outside or back inside. Yes, the always on TFT mode is going not the greatest for inside, but that's not its point. Still, sitting here at my desk under weak, florescent light, I can read it perfectly at a glance. That is another selling point for this watch. It is fairly useful as a watch...lol.
I am bit disappointed with my SW3, or more with Android Wear actually.
Besides notifications I have not been able to find much use for it. I had Pebble for two years and loved the way it handled notifications, with a certain third party app though. IMO Android Wear is quite clumsy and I miss more customisation options especially with the way notifications are handled. My battery lasts about a day and a night. For a smartwatch I guess that is not bad but I do miss Pebble's several days of juice.
So I am not sure if I would buy one now that I have used SW3 for few months...
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Which Smart Watch?
I own the Sony S3 Smartwatch, the Samsung Gear S2 and two Moto 360 2nd generation watches. Yes, I have four smart watches for no reason other than I love gadgets. I also owned the Huawei smart watch for about a week before I exchanged it for a Moto 360. The Huawei is great but I have huge wrists. So the Moto looks best on my wrist. Anyway, I use each watch for different activities. Each watch has it's pros and cons and correlates directly to which activities they are best for. For instance, the Sony Smartwatch has the best waterproof rating. So I wear the Sony to the beach and for playing beach volleyball (any activity with the possibility of submersion). The Sony is also one of the only watches with on-board GPS. That's great when you want to track your movement without lugging the phone around with you. The Samsung Gear S2 is probably the most versatile and it's sort of a hybrid between a sports watch and a casual dinner watch (depends on which band you install). The Samsung works great in every aspect and is probably the best overall performer but you cannot wear it as a luxury piece. It just does not have the look of a luxury piece. That's where the Moto 360 2nd Gen comes into play. The Moto performs great but you don't want to wear it playing beach volleyball. The Moto is designed to look like a luxury time piece and it looks the part. Of course the stock straps with the Moto are absolute garbage. You will want to order good thick leather straps online (or nice stainless steel). Once you have installed the new 3rd party strap your Moto will look very much like a fine time piece similar to a Breitling, Tagheur, Omega, etc.... Then you just need to use the Watchmaker premium app to download hundreds of custom watch faces that resemble luxury time pieces. In conclusion, if you want the smart watch solely for exercise I suggest the Sony S3. If you want a very nice (large) watch that looks like a Rolex I'd suggest the Moto 360 (46 mm). If you want a smart watch for the office and exercising I'd suggest the Samsung Gear S2. Most importantly, all three of these watches are top performers with good processors and great screens. So the only thing that differs greatly is the appearance of the piece itself.

Google Pixel 2 + Smartwatch

I'm wondering how many of you have a smartwatch with your Pixel 2 (XL) and what kind it is? I'm shopping for a smartwatch now. I LOVE the look and feel of the Nixon Mission and it's waterproof for up to 300 feet I believe( I'm not a diver but I hate taking my watch off to swim), but the price sucks, I also love the look and feel of the Samsung Gear S3 Frontier. I really want one that is waterproof as can be. I don't really care for taking calls on my watch. But I do love the notifications I can get on the watch. I really want good battery life. Just want to know what you all think of your watches if you have them....
Would love some feedback!
I've got a Gear S2 Classic - if I use the always on display, then I get about a day and a half of battery life. That extends to 4 days if I turn off the AOD.
Here are the pros:
Getting notifications on my wrist is perfect when I'm in a meeting. It allows me to discretely check to make sure it's not important without pulling out a bright 5" phone screen.
I wake up at a different time than my wife every morning. I can use the watch's vibration as a silent alarm while it's on my wrist.
I can change the watch face and bands to match my outfit. Dress it up with a metal band when I wear a suit or keep it casual with a black leather band when I'm wearing jeans.
Here are the cons:
Price - I got mine from an eBay user who never wore it and just wanted to sell it for cheap, so I only paid $150. I could never imagine paying full retail prices for these things.
If you try to use anything other than the smart reply features to incoming text messages, you'll hate typing on it.
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I'm wondering how many of you have a smartwatch with your Pixel 2 (XL) and what kind it is? I'm shopping for a smartwatch now. I LOVE the look and feel of the Nixon Mission and it's waterproof for up to 300 feet I believe( I'm not a diver but I hate taking my watch off to swim), but the price sucks, I also love the look and feel of the Samsung Gear S3 Frontier. I really want one that is waterproof as can be. I don't really care for taking calls on my watch. But I do love the notifications I can get on the watch. I really want good battery life. Just want to know what you all think of your watches if you have them....
Would love some feedback!
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Speaking of battery life in a smart watch, never go for a watch with android wear! The OS sucks. Tizen OS is just better in every way. So Samsung Gear S3 is the best when it comes to battery life & user experience, Not to mention that rotating dial for navigation which is very very convenient. As for as the looks Huawei watch 2 is awesome.
P.S: i dont use a smart watch.
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I'm wondering how many of you have a smartwatch with your Pixel 2 (XL) and what kind it is? I'm shopping for a smartwatch now. I LOVE the look and feel of the Nixon Mission and it's waterproof for up to 300 feet I believe( I'm not a diver but I hate taking my watch off to swim), but the price sucks, I also love the look and feel of the Samsung Gear S3 Frontier. I really want one that is waterproof as can be. I don't really care for taking calls on my watch. But I do love the notifications I can get on the watch. I really want good battery life. Just want to know what you all think of your watches if you have them....
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I had a LG G watch but the battery life on android wear is just too ****ty. I want a Samsung gear s3 frontier
I use a Polar M600, which suits me very well, but I don't think it's for you. It has all the attractiveness (or lack thereof) of a running watch, which it is, but it also does everything I want a general-purpose smart watch to do.
As has already been pointed out, no Android Wear watch offers truly great battery life. Getting through the day is the best you can hope for with AW.
My own personal oddity is that I prefer watches with a light background, so I avoid OLED displays, which need to be kept as dark as possible to minimize battery drain. That's one of the things I like about the Polar: its transmissive display. I'd prefer transflective, though
You might consider an activity tracker, instead of a smartwatch. The Huawei Fit, for one, looks more watch-like than most, supports notifications, and is said to be waterproof and have long battery life. I have no direct knowledge of it, so I can't endorse it, but it looks like it might meet your specs.
True, android wear sucks. (Sony smartwatch 3, Motorola moto 360 in past)
For sport Garmin and Suunto. I had Garmin Vivoactive HR, great like sporttester, weaker like smartwatch.
And now I bought Fitbit Ionic on January. Good smartwatch and sporttester in one.
I've been using an LG watch Urbane with my non XL Pixel 2. It works ok, but sometimes looses connection. I can get about a day and a half out of it but normally charge it every night.
For the past couple of weeks I've tried not using it again and leaving my Bluetooth off, and it seems to have granted me around an extra 5-6% battery compared to using the watch.
It is fun to get notifications on your wrist and reply with the Swype keyboard, but I think it's not useful enough to warrant losing the phone battery.
I haven't found any suitable replacement for my Sony SmartWatch 3. Newer smartwatch's might have a HR-censor that I don't use anyway. Even when running three times a week the watch has at least two days of battery life. If not running it will be three to four days. With my new Google Pixel 2 XL I have smartphone that match the the battery life of my smartwatch.
I use the original Huawei Watch (still the best looking smartwatch out there) and love it. The only bug I have is since I bought the Pixel 2 I can't pick up phone calls directly on the smartwatch because if that setting is on the person calling me dosent ear me for like 10 seconds when I pick up a call on the phone. Google is aware of this and says it will release a fix.
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I'm wondering how many of you have a smartwatch with your Pixel 2 (XL) and what kind it is? I'm shopping for a smartwatch now. I LOVE the look and feel of the Nixon Mission and it's waterproof for up to 300 feet I believe( I'm not a diver but I hate taking my watch off to swim), but the price sucks, I also love the look and feel of the Samsung Gear S3 Frontier. I really want one that is waterproof as can be. I don't really care for taking calls on my watch. But I do love the notifications I can get on the watch. I really want good battery life. Just want to know what you all think of your watches if you have them....
Would love some feedback!
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I've had the Samsung Gear S3 and while it was nice, if it's not a Samsung phone it does not work correctly. I switch to the Huawei Watch 2 and it's perfect. Don't listen to someone who doesn't wear one. I got about 2 days a battery on Samsung in about a day and a half on the Huawei Watch 2. Both with normal use. Battery saver can get you a lot more time with it if needed. I never use it though. Android wear is getting refresh as Wear OS soon so let's see what that does.
I have a FitBit Ionic. I'm a former Garmin VivoActive and Apple Watch user.
I don't get much into the applications because I almost always have my phone with me anyway. So far, it's been great. Battery is 5+ days easy unless you're using GPS a lot, and even then it only drains at about 8% per hour. The display is pretty nice and there's a decent amount of watch faces available with more trickling out once in a while.
It has arguably the best app for the smart sport watch segment and the HR, movement, and sleep analytics make it a pretty good fit for me overall.
Is there any androidwear or tizen nwm watch that can be trigger for a photo on google camera? I'd like to place a phone on a tripod and make photos from distance
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Everyone else is having huge issues with "Play phone voice call on watch" on my Pixel 2 XL their android wear smartwatches where apps (Phone, Duo, WhatsApp - anything that uses a BT headset) freeze for 10-15s after making or receiving a call on the phone with the watch connected?
There's many many people complaining about this since December. Here's the Google bug report where you can report it https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/71010564
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Is there any androidwear or tizen nwm watch that can be trigger for a photo on google camera? I'd like to place a phone on a tripod and make photos from distance
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Probably one in the Samsung watch store
PuffDaddy_d said:
Probably one in the Samsung watch store
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Every Android wear smartwatches can do that, there's several apps that have that ability
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Probably one in the Samsung watch store
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Nope...there is only one apk, and that one install aditionall photo software as I could see
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I grabbed a Ticwatch S, my one issues is when I get in the car Android auto starts going crazy on my phone(constantly restarting). Must be a bluetooth conflict between car/phone/watch
Garmin watches will last weeks in smartwatch mode until you start actively tracking activities that enable the GPS.
Right now I'm wearing a fenix 5X that works well with the Pixel 2 (did NOT pay full price for it). I think some of the cooler devices out there now are the vivoactive 3 and the vivomove HR. I know people with both and they really enjoy them.
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I've had the Samsung Gear S3 and while it was nice, if it's not a Samsung phone it does not work correctly. I switch to the Huawei Watch 2 and it's perfect. Don't listen to someone who doesn't wear one. I got about 2 days a battery on Samsung in about a day and a half on the Huawei Watch 2. Both with normal use. Battery saver can get you a lot more time with it if needed. I never use it though. Android wear is getting refresh as Wear OS soon so let's see what that does.
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I also wear a Samsung gear S3 with my pixel2.
I used the same watch on the OnePlus 6 and now I'm wondering what exactly isn't working right for you. I used to own a s8 and don't see any features missing on the watch. So please elaborate [emoji4]
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I also wear a Samsung gear S3 with my pixel2.
I used the same watch on the OnePlus 6 and now I'm wondering what exactly isn't working right for you. I used to own a s8 and don't see any features missing on the watch. So please elaborate [emoji4]
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The messaging app would give me problems. Didn't show mms pics and had trouble with threaded conversation. Couldn't use Samsung voice and ok Google wasn't an option so no voice dictation. That was along time ago and I now have a Sony xz2. My Huawei Watch 2 is still going strong with that one.

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