[Q] OTA update over rooted stock rom (4.2.2) and lag issues in apps - G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

First and foremost: Has anyone had problems, experiencing lags/stutters even during apps like Flappy Bird? Even when unlocking the screen having "lag" issues. I have a rooted G Pad (V800) with the original stock (4.2.2) rom, I have never done any updates.
2. Given the fact that I rooted the G Pad, but have installed no custom rom, do you think it would be alright if I did the OTA from the system? I thank you in advance for all the help and support!

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[Q] Rooting/Custom ROM installation help and advice....

Hey guys,
It's my first question on this website so please forgive me if I am too noob-ish with my questions.
So recently I got an OTA update for my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S3 asking me to update from jelly bean 4.1.2 to 4.3 and I did so with no second thought. However, within two weeks of using the new jelly bean version, I am sick of its performance issues, battery life, wifi problems and a host of other annoying things it brought to the table. So I went about looking for advice on several forms on how to improve performance and make my phone usable again.
In the end, I ended up rooting my phone successfully using a thread I found.
I also installed a custom recovery (CWM) so I could flash well-rated custom ROMs. Now, I have a few questions before proceeding since I came across a couple concerns other people expressed on other similar threads......I heard the new 4.3 update came with some kind of new bootloader and Samsung KNOX, and I've read that it could cause problems if I try to downgrade my phone back to the stock ROM (4.1.1) or 4.1.2.
So I have ruled out the option of downgrading my phone given the risk of permanently bricking it.
So my question and concern is.....can I go ahead and flash a custom ROM at this point without bricking my phone? I am thinking about Cyanogenmod 10.2, which is apparently based on jelly bean 4.3. Can I install cyanogenmod 11 (based on 4.4 kitkat) instead of 10.2? What are my risks of flashing a custom ROM through CWM at this point?
Please help, I'm stuck!!! Any help is much appreciated
trilfc said:
Hey guys,
It's my first question on this website so please forgive me if I am too noob-ish with my questions.
So recently I got an OTA update for my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S3 asking me to update from jelly bean 4.1.2 to 4.3 and I did so with no second thought. However, within two weeks of using the new jelly bean version, I am sick of its performance issues, battery life, wifi problems and a host of other annoying things it brought to the table. So I went about looking for advice on several forms on how to improve performance and make my phone usable again.
In the end, I ended up rooting my phone successfully using a thread I found.
I also installed a custom recovery (CWM) so I could flash well-rated custom ROMs. Now, I have a few questions before proceeding since I came across a couple concerns other people expressed on other similar threads......I heard the new 4.3 update came with some kind of new bootloader and Samsung KNOX, and I've read that it could cause problems if I try to downgrade my phone back to the stock ROM (4.1.1) or 4.1.2.
So I have ruled out the option of downgrading my phone given the risk of permanently bricking it.
So my question and concern is.....can I go ahead and flash a custom ROM at this point without bricking my phone? I am thinking about Cyanogenmod 10.2, which is apparently based on jelly bean 4.3. Can I install cyanogenmod 11 (based on 4.4 kitkat) instead of 10.2? What are my risks of flashing a custom ROM through CWM at this point?
Please help, I'm stuck!!! Any help is much appreciated
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Cyanogenmod is a good rom that improves your performance alot since bloatware is removed. My S4 on a stock rom uses on average 1.14gb of ram. When I switched to Cyanogenmod 11(4.4.2) It knocked it down to 550mb avarage. I have noticed a significant improvement over the stock rom. If you do it be VERY careful and follow all instructions exact. Make sure everything you download is for your model and you should be fine. Other than that, like you said downgrading is out of the picture so you can try other roms that are 4.3 and up if you don't like CM10/11.
Olycius said:
Cyanogenmod is a good rom that improves your performance alot since bloatware is removed. My S4 on a stock rom uses on average 1.14gb of ram. When I switched to Cyanogenmod 11(4.4.2) It knocked it down to 550mb avarage. I have noticed a significant improvement over the stock rom. If you do it be VERY careful and follow all instructions exact. Make sure everything you download is for your model and you should be fine. Other than that, like you said downgrading is out of the picture so you can try other roms that are 4.3 and up if you don't like CM10/11.
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yeah i also would also recommend Cyanogemod, for battery issues i would get the app Performance control and look up which Governor and i/o schedulers, i personally recommend the ondemand or ondemandx governor, you can check DIS out if you want to see it explained, just a brief explanation of why you should use them ondemandx clocks itself to 500mhz when the screen is off and is pretty much a nice battery saver, as for i/o's i myself have not done very much research into these but there are some threads on it too, i just use deadline.

Question about rooting!

Hi,
I’m waiting for my LG G Pad 8.3 (still in the mail, should be here by the end of the week!!!) and I have a few questions about it. I plan to root it but I would like to know a few things before doing this as I’m not an expert with “rooting devices”…
1) If I root the device but not install any custom ROM or custom Recovery, will I still receive the automatic OTA update from LG? Of what I understood, if you don’t modify any “system” files, install custom ROM or Recovery, you should be able to get OTA update?
2) If I decide to install a custom ROM/Recovery and then want to go back to the stock ROM, Is it available for download? I checked (quickly) on the forum and I didn't see any link to download it (stock ROM from LG).
Thanks in advance!
PParent said:
Hi,
I’m waiting for my LG G Pad 8.3 (still in the mail, should be here by the end of the week!!!) and I have a few questions about it. I plan to root it but I would like to know a few things before doing this as I’m not an expert with “rooting devices”…
1) If I root the device but not install any custom ROM or custom Recovery, will I still receive the automatic OTA update from LG? Of what I understood, if you don’t modify any “system” files, install custom ROM or Recovery, you should be able to get OTA update?
2) If I decide to install a custom ROM/Recovery and then want to go back to the stock ROM, Is it available for download? I checked (quickly) on the forum and I didn't see any link to download it (stock ROM from LG).
Thanks in advance!
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1)you probably can not update ota on stock rooted fw. I had asked the same question to the developer of the root method for our devices and this is what he had said:
dalingrin said:
My suggestion, if you want to keep root don't take an OTA.
If you really want to stay with stock LG then you'll want to flash updates via custom recovery. The community will take the updates from LG and make them flashable with TWRP or CWM.
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2)in this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554121 there are 2 methods to unbrick the gpad and revert back to full stock, both rom and recovery
katsika said:
1)you probably can not update ota on stock rooted fw. I had asked the same question to the developer of the root method for our devices and this is what he had said:
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Thanks for your reply! If the update from LG will be available for download so I can flash it, this work with me! I might not keep the stock ROM too... I never had an android device from LG so I'm not sure how it look like... If there is too much bloatware (like Samsung), I won't keep it.
katsika said:
2)in this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554121 there are 2 methods to unbrick the gpad and revert back to full stock, both rom and recovery
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Just to make sure... Stock Kernel = Stock ROM? So the "LG G Pad Sock Kernel.img" is the latest version of the stock ROM from LG?
PParent said:
Thanks for your reply! If the update from LG will be available for download so I can flash it, this work with me! I might not keep the stock ROM too... I never had an android device from LG so I'm not sure how it look like... If there is too much bloatware (like Samsung), I won't keep it.
Just to make sure... Stock Kernel = Stock ROM? So the "LG G Pad Sock Kernel.img" is the latest version of the stock ROM from LG?
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There is too much bloatware in this tablet just like the Samsung ones. In my opinion the stock rom is worthy if you want maximum stability or you need the lg apps.
No, kernel with rom are different things, google rom vs kernel. The stock kernel is for people who have flashed custom kernels and want to revert back to stock. If you look in the original android development section of these forums you ll see that there are 2 custom kernels and more custom roms available for our tablet atm.
katsika said:
There is too much bloatware in this tablet just like the Samsung ones. In my opinion the stock rom is worthy if you want maximum stability or you need the lg apps.
No, kernel with rom are different things, google rom vs kernel. The stock kernel is for people who have flashed custom kernels and want to revert back to stock. If you look in the original android development section of these forums you ll see that there are 2 custom kernels and more custom roms available for our tablet atm.
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Thanks for the info! I'm not very familiar with this but I'm getting there! I'm reading related post/subject (rooting device) on the xda-developers forum so this help me a lot! I should receive my tablet tomorrow or Thursday so I'll test/inspect it to make sure everything is ok with it and than try to root it.
Did you root yours? Are you using a custom ROM on it?
PParent said:
Thanks for the info! I'm not very familiar with this but I'm getting there! I'm reading related post/subject (rooting device) on the xda-developers forum so this help me a lot! I should receive my tablet tomorrow or Thursday so I'll test/inspect it to make sure everything is ok with it and than try to root it.
Did you root yours? Are you using a custom ROM on it?
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I had rooted it when dalingrin released the adb root method as I couldn't trust the kingo root method. Adaway and titanium backup are some of the top apps but these apps need root. Also you won't be able to move apps or games to SD without root. I flashed cyanogen mod 11 some days ago and I'm totally satisfied with it. The gpad became faster, with more ram available and with less battery consumption.
katsika said:
I had rooted it when dalingrin released the adb root method as I couldn't trust the kingo root method. Adaway and titanium backup are some of the top apps but these apps need root. Also you won't be able to move apps or games to SD without root. I flashed cyanogen mod 11 some days ago and I'm totally satisfied with it. The gpad became faster, with more ram available and with less battery consumption.
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I'll use the root method of dalingrin then! I installed CM on my old device and I liked it so I might test it on my G Pad! There is no big issues with it? I know that it still in "Nightlies status so it might not be "stable". I'm looking forward to receive my G Pad!
PParent said:
I'll use the root method of dalingrin then! I installed CM on my old device and I liked it so I might test it on my G Pad! There is no big issues with it? I know that it still in "Nightlies status so it might not be "stable". I'm looking forward to receive my G Pad!
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CM runs stable on G Pad as of now. Very few features are lacking and you can check the CM thread nad if you have half an hour to spare you can go through the change log as well.
For the love of God, do not mistake a rom for a kernel. And remember that a kernel is usually made for a specific ROM. Kernels will improve performance on specific ROM's.. And enable new features under the hood and so on. But if you install a stock kernel onto a CM rom, it would be like filling a car with the wrong fuel and it would most likely get stuck in bootloop until you reflash a compatible kernel. - As stated above there are 2 custom kernels, one is ported for a few of the custom roms.. The other one as far as I know is pretty empty atm. and is aiming at becoming Play Edition-"like", I don't remember for what ROM. On certain mainstream devices you will find many a kernel and usually something that will suit your needs. Perhaps this will happen with the G Pad at some point.
Good luck on your rooting adventures and feel free to ask anything if you hit a wall at some point.
I received my G Pad yesterday! I rooted it by using the “dalingrin” method, installed TWRP and then CM11 (the stock ROM had too much bloatware for me!). Everything worked without any issue so now I can enjoy my new toys! I was hesitating between the Nexus 7 and the G Pad and I’m very happy that I chose the G Pad!
Thanks again for your replies/help guys!
PParent said:
I received my G Pad yesterday! I rooted it by using the “dalingrin” method, installed TWRP and then CM11 (the stock ROM had too much bloatware for me!). Everything worked without any issue so now I can enjoy my new toys! I was hesitating between the Nexus 7 and the G Pad and I’m very happy that I chose the G Pad!
Thanks again for your replies/help guys!
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I told you that it has too much bloatware, you did the right thing! I was also balancing between nexus 7 fhd and gpad and i picked the gpad for its 8.3" screen.

Root: Newbie's questions about upgrading & updating

Hi everyone,
I'm a newbie to the community of everything rooting and post rooting. I have recently rooted my N7 2013 running 4.2.2 and flashed TWRP recovery/SuperUser by Chainfire/AOSP PA 4Beta ROM.
While I now understands how to update the ROM and how to get out of a bootloop and other similar rooting circumstances, I need help understanding the procedures involved in the below scenario :-
Should Android get an incremental or a major update,
1. Should I first update the Stock ROM followed by reflashing the custom ROM or just wait for the custom ROM to release their compatible update?
2. Should the Superuser have an update, that does have to be updated from Play Store or the update needs to be flashed? Also, does TWRP needs to be updated if there's an update because I have heard that some ROMs are compatible with recoveries from a specific versions? Is this true?
3. Is updating radios really necessary? Will updating the radios cause it to malfunction? What is the procedure if this needs to be done?
4. What do I do if I wish to chuck the custom ROM and return to stock ROM or what is called un-rooting?
If there's something I missed out on asking but needs to be done, please point me in that direction as well!
Thanks
Regards
Karthik
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[Q] Bootloop gt-5210 [SOLVED]

HI, i think im in really deep Sh*t. Today i successfully rooted my galaxy tab 3 10.1 and after that i tried to flash a stock rom 4.2.2
(i tried this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2625805 both stock and rooted still in bootloop)
not a very experienced android user, but i had no trouble before with custom roms on phones, now with the tab im in very tough position, so i hope you guys can help me or my wife will kill me or worse divorce me :crying:
I wanted to try this because the tab was on auto update and with the 4.4.2 update made things very messy, apps werent working like facebook chat viber and other. Please if you have any tips fire away...
solved
Luckily i managed to fix the problem on my own, PhilzAdvCW and this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-3/development-10/rom-100-stock-4-4-2-kitkat-p5210-wifi-t2848279 helped me
thanks to OPs of those threads

[Q] Bootloader question :)

I recently updated my N7105 to the recent 4.4.2 Nordic ROM ( n7105xxufnd3 )that was floating round that tripped my Knox, which I dont care about.
When i got sick of the updates abysmal battery life i flashed the latest stable release of CM for the GNII LTE a 4.3 based ROM with out issues.
But I'd like to know if i can revert back to my original ROM i.e. WanamLite MC3 V1.3, a TW 4.1.2 based ROM, for its spen support, battery life, atpx and boeffla sound support (im a big music listener) w/ Wanam's Adam Kernel.
Can i do this with out running into any issues, despite the gap between a 4.4.2 boot-loader (as I've been told i cant roll-back from this version) to a TW 4.1.2 ROM?
Thanks in advance guys
greyhamism said:
Can i do this with out running into any issues?
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Based from what I remember, devs say that when you are with KK BL (ND3), you cannot flash a stock rom lower than it and the lowest custom rom that you can flash is 4.3.
Is there anyway i can flash an older bootloader? and/or is there a similar ROM to Wanam's that uses 4.3 as its base?
As awesome as CM is, there are touchwiz features specific to the note series that are hard to implement on CM/ASOP based ROMS :/
greyhamism said:
Is there anyway i can flash an older bootloader? and/or is there a similar ROM to Wanam's that uses 4.3 as its base?
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Do not try to install anything lower as it will break device. I'm sorry, I know nothing about wanam lite.
I have a unrooted note 2, manually installed 4.4.2 as 4.3 had major battery issues.
Things got worse for me in 4.4.2 nordic countries and I went and downloaded the offical roms from sammobile and am now back on 4.1.1 offical.
It can be done.
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hotkolbas said:
It can be done.
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Wow, I thought once you are in a higher bootloader, you cannot install a lower one. No problems at all?
I'm sorry if I gave out wrong info, that was how I knew it was.
I have no issues at all.
Apart from missing out on features from 4.1.2 and above everything works as if I didnt update the device at all.
I would not do a restore from higher up android versions but if you start feom scratch its all good.
And I can say my zero lemon battery is working at it should be, I now have days worth of battery life.
I'm getting invalid kernel/ ramdisk size error on bootloader screen. This is the first time I got this error while entering recovery screen. I'm don't know much about this. Please help.
I have rooted Moto X (2013) running LiquidSmooth v 3.2
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Sorry champ but this threqd is for a galaxy note 2 specifically a gt7105 and has installed a samsung stock rom, I have done this and have gone back to 4.1.1 but seeing as you have a rooted romed moto x it is out of my league.
I dare say this process is incompatible with the moto x and seeing as you can get into recovery or cwm or what ever its called you can still flash a rom with the relavent bootloader that was previous to your dilemma
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