[Q] Any difference between AT&T and DevEd radio? - One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

When I converted my M8 over to the developer edition, I used the nandroid backup method, and then manually flashed the stock DevEd recovery so I could take OTA updates. I left the radio alone, though. However, I then let the DevEd install do several OTA updates, and now I see that my radio is up to 1.19.21331147A1.09G_20.57.4196.01L_F - which is not what the phone shipped with.
I have been reading in other threads that there may be differences between the AT&T radio and the DevEd radio, though from my reading, they always seem to have the same version number? (The thread I was reading hasn't been updated in a while, and stops at 1.16 radios)
The phone seems to work fine, but I'm curious if 1) there is any difference between the radio the DevEd install put on there, and 2) if so, is there any reason to go searching for a newer AT&T radio?

Newest AT&T radio is 1.19.213311491.A22G_20.51A.4198.01L_F
The Dev Edition OTA started rolling out slightly earlier (few weeks) than the AT&T OTA. Is there any difference? Who knows? I don't think anybody but HTC is going to know much about that. But as the Dev Edition is intended to fully support the AT&T network, I wouldn't worry about the baseband number being different.
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jshamlet said:
I have been reading in other threads that there may be differences between the AT&T radio and the DevEd radio, though from my reading, they always seem to have the same version number? (The thread I was reading hasn't been updated in a while, and stops at 1.16 radios)
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Of the 3 releases to date, the radio has only been the same (between AT&T and Dev Ed) once: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2736921
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jshamlet said:
is there any reason to go searching for a newer AT&T radio?
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My gut would say no, but if you want you can always try it and see if there is any difference (Speedtest, etc.)

I'm thinking no on that as well, as the phone is working fine as it is, and needlessly messing around with firmware seems unwise. If there was a definitive "yes", I might give it a go, but as it stands, I will probably let it ride.

jshamlet said:
I'm thinking no on that as well, as the phone is working fine as it is, and needlessly messing around with firmware seems unwise. If there was a definitive "yes", I might give it a go, but as it stands, I will probably let it ride.
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I think the difference would be.
Dev Edition Radio - Open to all bands
AT&T Radio - Locked to AT&T bands. Roaming and all...Not just TO other carriers but FROM other carriers.
Can read up on Qualcomm's RF360 Front End Solution that came with the Snapdragon 801 chipset. It carries ALL the bands on there to make it "truly" global. However, obviously they WILL make some changes on a carrier level for like I mentioned before, roaming purposes i.e Money.
Both phones should be able to run all bands no problem, the AT&T one on the other hand, will have some locked out so that's the only difference I think.
Read up on it some more though, it's interesting stuff :good:

BerndM14 said:
I think the difference would be.
Dev Edition Radio - Open to all bands
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Unlikely that this is true. As already mentioned above, one radio deployed for the Dev Ed (1.14) appears to be the exact same radio number as the AT&T version.
While its true the radio hardware is capable of supporting all applicable bands (GSM/HSPA/LTE) used worldwide; that doesn't necessarily mean all are going to be enabled in software; or that they can all be enabled simultaneously. There may or may not be a software limitation, but I can only guess on that point.

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HTC One M8 of Choice?

I am looking to buy an HTC One M8, which would the community recommend? I am on AT&T but I love to root, and install CM, and other ROMS to any phone I own. Which Variant would be best for me? Or are they all supported under CM and custom recoveries? Thanks!
Also if anyone has one on the cheap let me know
lemonboi5 said:
I am looking to buy an HTC One M8, which would the community recommend? I am on AT&T but I love to root, and install CM, and other ROMS to any phone I own. Which Variant would be best for me? Or are they all supported under CM and custom recoveries? Thanks!
Also if anyone has one on the cheap let me know
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The M9 is due out soon, might wait for that one.
Hondo209 said:
The M9 is due out soon, might wait for that one.
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I was thinking about that, the problem is I always end up getting a phone a generation behind the newest thing! Lol m9 looks amazing though!!
lemonboi5 said:
I am looking to buy an HTC One M8, which would the community recommend? I am on AT&T but I love to root, and install CM, and other ROMS to any phone I own. Which Variant would be best for me? Or are they all supported under CM and custom recoveries? Thanks!
Also if anyone has one on the cheap let me know
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For the most part, I'd say whatever variant you can get for a good price. All the M8's (known as "GSM M8") are the same hardware internally aside from the following exceptions:
1) Dual SIM M8
2) Verizon/Sprint variants. These include CDMA radio, so different hardware. No benefit for you on AT&T, and less selection of ROMs.
3) Taiwan variant. Hardware is the same, but its overclocked out of the box. Some software from the other M8 versions won't work on this variant (including radios).
Aside from the variants above, all the M8 versions are essentially the same hardware, with minor differences of exterior color availability, and carrier logos on the back of some. Once bootloader is unlocked (and preferably s-off) you can flash CM to any of the versions.
One thing to note, AFAIK any M8 that has hboot 3.19 cannot be s-off by sunshine (and that is the only s-off method). Band compatibility for the various carriers/regions is software based on the M8. However, if you need to flash the radio to change band compatibility on a non-AT&T M8 variant, you will need s-off to do so. So unless you have a way of knowing what hboot is on the version you are buying, I tend to say that you might want to choose either the AT&T version or Dev Edition, to guarantee band compatibility on AT&T's network. Both of which fully support AT&T bands out of the box.
redpoint73 said:
For the most part, I'd say whatever variant you can get for a good price. All the M8's (known as "GSM M8") are the same hardware internally aside from the following exceptions:
1) Dual SIM M8
2) Verizon/Sprint variants. These include CDMA radio, so different hardware. No benefit for you on AT&T, and less selection of ROMs.
3) Taiwan variant. Hardware is the same, but its overclocked out of the box. Some software from the other M8 versions won't work on this variant (including radios).
Aside from the variants above, all the M8 versions are essentially the same hardware, with minor differences of exterior color availability, and carrier logos on the back of some. Once bootloader is unlocked (and preferably s-off) you can flash CM to any of the versions.
One thing to note, AFAIK any M8 that has hboot 3.19 cannot be s-off by sunshine (and that is the only s-off method). Band compatibility for the various carriers/regions is software based on the M8. However, if you need to flash the radio to change band compatibility on a non-AT&T M8 variant, you will need s-off to do so. So unless you have a way of knowing what hboot is on the version you are buying, I tend to say that you might want to choose either the AT&T version or Dev Edition, to guarantee band compatibility on AT&T's network. Both of which fully support AT&T bands out of the box.
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Right so, Verizon M8 wouldn't work on AT&T? That sucks. I knew Sprint wouldn't but Verizon is nearly compatible with AT&T by now, so thats sad lol
The best price is the Sprint variant, but thats because sprint phones do not have high resell value at all. People hate to deal with them completely and that solely makes the value go down...
I have not looked at the other variants but I will check them out! Thank you! I repaired a One today, It was a lot of work, but nearly any HTC Phone never looks or feels the same after a screen repair, because of that uni body.
redpoint73 said:
For the most part, I'd say whatever variant you can get for a good price. All the M8's (known as "GSM M8") are the same hardware internally aside from the following exceptions:
1) Dual SIM M8
2) Verizon/Sprint variants. These include CDMA radio, so different hardware. No benefit for you on AT&T, and less selection of ROMs.
3) Taiwan variant. Hardware is the same, but its overclocked out of the box. Some software from the other M8 versions won't work on this variant (including radios).
Aside from the variants above, all the M8 versions are essentially the same hardware, with minor differences of exterior color availability, and carrier logos on the back of some. Once bootloader is unlocked (and preferably s-off) you can flash CM to any of the versions.
One thing to note, AFAIK any M8 that has hboot 3.19 cannot be s-off by sunshine (and that is the only s-off method). Band compatibility for the various carriers/regions is software based on the M8. However, if you need to flash the radio to change band compatibility on a non-AT&T M8 variant, you will need s-off to do so. So unless you have a way of knowing what hboot is on the version you are buying, I tend to say that you might want to choose either the AT&T version or Dev Edition, to guarantee band compatibility on AT&T's network. Both of which fully support AT&T bands out of the box.
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I have a question. Does T-Mo work with WWE firmware. I'm unsure of this, and have never looked it up. I know that AT&T versions are compatible with 401 firmware. Is T-Mo the same?
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...One thing to note, AFAIK any M8 that has hboot 3.19 cannot be s-off by sunshine (and that is the only s-off method). ...
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but you could check with the seller if it is S-OFF already (as you can be S-OFF with 3.19 if it was already done) if thats what you are going to do anyway.
lemonboi5 said:
Right so, Verizon M8 wouldn't work on AT&T? That sucks. I knew Sprint wouldn't but Verizon is nearly compatible with AT&T by now, so thats sad lol
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Verizon variant will work on AT&T GSM and HSPA network (in addition to being SIM-unlocked out of the box); however, it doesn't have all the LTE bands to work on AT&T in all regions. And while the "GSM" variants can have radio software flashed to change band compatibility, you can't do this on the "CDMA" variants (at least you can't flash a GSM radio on a CDMA variant to open up all the needed LTE bands).
Similar situation on Sprint version. Except I think the Sprint comes SIM locked out of the box (you will need to get it SIM unlocked). And also the LTE bands are different from the Verizon version, but still not all the bands needed to work on AT&T in all regions.
My point in highlighting the hardware difference (CDMA versus GSM variants) is not only are the radio basebands not interchangeable (as mentioned) but neither are the ROMs. For the CDMA versions, you should only flash ROMs that specify that version is supported. The GSM versions can flash any of the GSM ROMs, and there is a much wider selection.
Again, there isn't a benefit to either of the CDMA variants (for use on AT&T), and several critical downsides, so I generally don't recommend them to basically any user that isn't on the specific carrier (Verizon or Sprint).
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gazzacbr said:
but you could check with the seller if it is S-OFF already (as you can be S-OFF with 3.19 if it was already done) if thats what you are going to do anyway.
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True, if the device is being sold second hand, you can (and should) always check to see if its already s-off.
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xunholyx said:
I have a question. Does T-Mo work with WWE firmware. I'm unsure of this, and have never looked it up. I know that AT&T versions are compatible with 401 firmware. Is T-Mo the same?
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Aside from the exceptions previously listed, all GSM M8's are the same hardware, and firmware should be interchangeable (with s-off). T-Mobile version should be able to flash WWE firmware. Although, if you want to be prudent, you can check and confirm to see if any T-Mobile owners have done so successfully.

[Q] US phone - 4G

Hello.
FIrst , i know there are 2 more threads ( or maybe more , i could only find 2 ) about this but they didn't made me understand my problem.
So I live in Europe and my M8 is an US M8 ( Canadian if i remember right) and because of that 4G isn't working here , in Europe.
Now my question is : Can I do something about this ? I'm s-off if that can help..
Thanks.
Check if your version of the M8 supports the 4G band(s) used by your carrier. If not, the band support can be changed by flashing the appropriate radio.
Also, make sure you are using the proper APN for your carrier. Sometimes carriers use a different APN for 4G enabled devices.
redpoint73 said:
Check if your version of the M8 supports the 4G band(s) used by your carrier. If not, the band support can be changed by flashing the appropriate radio.
Also, make sure you are using the proper APN for your carrier. Sometimes carriers use a different APN for 4G enabled devices.
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Sorry but I'm a bit noob. How can I check if my M8 supports the 4G band used by my carrier? The APN is ok.
Sent from my HTC One M8 powered by ViperOneM8
freskeeeh said:
Sorry but I'm a bit noob. How can I check if my M8 supports the 4G band used by my carrier? The APN is ok.
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1) Verify what version of the M8 you own
2) Check specs online to see what bands your M8 version is supposed to support
3) Find out what 4G band(s) your carrier uses
You haven't given much detail, and I don't know your knowledge base (what you do or don't know how to do). So I can only give general steps, and rely on you to ask specific questions on the steps above, as necessary.
Flashing the radio appropriate for your region/carrier is probably going to fix the problem. But I recommend you do the research above first, to first confirm that band support (missing in the device software) is the issue.
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freskeeeh said:
my M8 is an US M8 ( Canadian if i remember right) =
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Byt the way, you understand Canada is not a part of the US, right?
redpoint73 said:
1) Verify what version of the M8 you own
2) Check specs online to see what bands your M8 version is supposed to support
3) Find out what 4G band(s) your carrier uses
You haven't given much detail, and I don't know your knowledge base (what you do or don't know how to do). So I can only give general steps, and rely on you to ask specific questions on the steps above, as necessary.
Flashing the radio appropriate for your region/carrier is probably going to fix the problem. But I recommend you do the research above first, to first confirm that band support (missing in the device software) is the issue.
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Byt the way, you understand Canada is not a part of the US, right?
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Yeah , looks like my brain wasn't working when I wrote you later.
I have a T-Mobile M8 and their bands are 700 , 1700 , 2100. For my carrier I need 800, 1800 , 2600 so looks like I need to flash a radio.
I just did a research and found some radio here on xda but i don't know which one to download. ( If you can help me here i would be very thankful )
My phone is s-off so i'm alright , i just need to change my cid to supercid.
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Yeah . I know Canada is not a part of the US.
Do you intend to run a custom ROM, or keep the phone stock?
I already have a custom ROM - ViperOne
@redpoint73
So can you help me in finding the radio for my M8 ?
If the latest Viper (version 4.x), I would suggest flashing the 4.16.401 firmware package. Not only to get the Euro radio (with the LTE bands you are looking for), but all the other firmware modules that correspond to the 4.16 software, for most bug-free performance.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2696282
s-off is required (which you state you already have) to flash another region/carrier's firmware. Plus, you will need to change to the proper CID and MID.
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freskeeeh said:
@redpoint73
So can you help me in finding the radio for my M8 ?
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Patience, I was typing!
Umm is that a different firmware ? Because I already have 4.16.401.10.
freskeeeh said:
Umm is that a different firmware ? Because I already have 4.16.401.10.
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How are you determining that number?
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How are you determining that number?
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Bootloader - OS
freskeeeh said:
Bootloader - OS
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That isn't the firmware number.
The term "firmware" is a little confusing. On this device, when most folks say "firmware" (including the link I sent you) it refers to a package of modules including hboot, radio, WiFi, Bluetooth, and others, that DO NOT get flashed with the ROM (but are critical in the correct operation of the ROM).
Firmware does not in fact really have a "number", so referring to the software (OS) number that the firmware deployed with is the best we can do. So again, its confusing.
The OS number is bootloader just tells you what software number the current ROM is based. Flash a ROM with a different base, and that number will change. But the hboot, radio "firmware" will not change. Therefore you want to have firmware that corresponds to your ROM.
There is in fact no easy way to tell what firmware package you have installed. The best way is to look at the hboot and radio numbers. So tell me what those say on the hboot screen, and I can probably tell what firmware you are on (although I'm not that familiar with the T-Mob radio numbers).
If you read the thread I linked, it explains it a little further under the big red letters.
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That isn't the firmware number.
The term "firmware" is a little confusing. On this device, when most folks say "firmware" (including the link I sent you) it refers to a package of modules including hboot, radio, WiFi, Bluetooth, and others, that DO NOT get flashed with the ROM (but are critical in the correct operation of the ROM).
Firmware does not in fact really have a "number", so referring to the software (OS) number that the firmware deployed with is the best we can do. So again, its confusing.
The OS number is bootloader just tells you what software number the current ROM is based. Flash a ROM with a different base, and that number will change. But the hboot, radio "firmware" will not change. Therefore you want to have firmware that corresponds to your ROM.
There is in fact no easy way to tell what firmware package you have installed. The best way is to look at the hboot and radio numbers. So tell me what those say on the hboot screen, and I can probably tell what firmware you are on (although I'm not that familiar with the T-Mob radio numbers).
If you read the thread I linked, it explains it a little further under the big red letters.
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Oh , I'm sorry. I didn't know that. I'm gonna flash that firmware right now. The sad part is will not know if this worked untill tomorrow , because I don't have 4G in the area where i live.
HBOOT : 3.19.0.0000
Radio: 1.25.214500021.06G
Thank you very much for your help and I'll come back with the result tomorrow
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Oh , I'm sorry. I didn't know that. I'm gonna flash that firmware right now. The sad part is will not know if this worked untill tomorrow , because I don't have 4G in the area where i live.
HBOOT : 3.19.0.0000
Radio: 1.25.214500021.06G
Thank you very much for your help and I'll come back with the result tomorrow
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So after flashing that firmware my radio is still : 1.25.214500021.06G. So I guess that didn't change anything ?
freskeeeh said:
HBOOT : 3.19.0.0000
Radio: 1.25.214500021.06G
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Interesting, you already seem to be on the Lollipop WWE Euro radio, based on this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58306004&postcount=734
And the T-Mobile radio number is 1.23.213311491.05G, based on this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59275459&postcount=712
Did you flash any firmware packages previously (by the method that I linked). Or was the phone modified by a previous owner?
Now why the WWE Euro radio doesn't give you LTE, is the real mystery. You've used this SIM on another phone before, and had LTE?
redpoint73 said:
Interesting, you already seem to be on the Lollipop WWE Euro radio, based on this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58306004&postcount=734
And the T-Mobile radio number is 1.23.213311491.05G, based on this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59275459&postcount=712
Did you flash any firmware packages previously (by the method that I linked). Or was the phone modified by a previous owner?
Now why the WWE Euro radio doesn't give you LTE, is the real mystery. You've used this SIM on another phone before, and had LTE?
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Umm , yes. I flashed a firmware when i updated viper rom from 44.2 to 4.4.4 i think. I don't know if the phone was modified by a previous owner.
I used the SIM in another phone and it had LTE.
freskeeeh said:
Umm , yes. I flashed a firmware when i updated viper rom from 44.2 to 4.4.4 i think.
I used the SIM in another phone and it had LTE.
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The radio number would suggest you flashed the Android 5.0 firmware, not 4.4.4.
Check the APN again. Does it match the APN on the "other" phone?
If the 4.16.401 firmware, and running current Viper, and right APN, I don't see a reason why LTE won't work. You might check the Viper thread to see if there are any other reports of a similar bug.
redpoint73 said:
The radio number would suggest you flashed the Android 5.0 firmware, not 4.4.4.
Check the APN again. Does it match the APN on the "other" phone?
If the 4.16.401 firmware, and running current Viper, and right APN, I don't see a reason why LTE won't work. You might check the Viper thread to see if there are any other reports of a similar bug.
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The APN is good. I'm gonna check Viper thread but probably I'm just gonna leave it like this. I'm gonna buy the M9 anyway when it's available here. Just wanted to make 4G work untill I buy it but yeah. Thanks anyway for your big help Have a good day/night.
What country are you in, specifically?
I think there were a couple countries (mostly Eastern Europe, I think) that had some data issues on KitKat, but I think they had some minor radio updates. And I would think those issues would have been cleared up by now (for Lollipop).

DEV vs WWE

Hi, I have a question.
I have my AT&T phone converted to developer version with 6.12.1540.4 installed.
Everything is good, but I've noticed that WWE update 6.12.401.4_R came with R letter. After some googling I've figured out that R means Rebuild in this case.
So, technically WWE version would work better? Should I convert my phone back to WWE?
Also, in general, what would you suggest to use in US with often travels to Ukraine?
irshansk said:
Hi, I have a question.
I have my AT&T phone converted to developer version with 6.12.1540.4 installed.
Everything is good, but I've noticed that WWE update 6.12.401.4_R came with R letter. After some googling I've figured out that R means Rebuild in this case.
So, technically WWE version would work better? Should I convert my phone back to WWE?
Also, in general, what would you suggest to use in US with often travels to Ukraine?
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I want to know this as well... Is there any software updates between the WWE and dev edition.
If there isn't then I don't see the point to update but need a concrete answer :/.
I am aware that between .401.4 and _R the only difference was the boot image.
Rebuild or newer, doesn't always mean better.
Both having the same build numbers 6.12 means they are very similar. So I would say no need to change.
From what I understand, 6.20.401 is coming (with some significant updates), not sure if a 1540 build (DevEd) will be coming or not. But that might be more of a reason to change.
redpoint73 said:
Rebuild or newer, doesn't always mean better.
Both having the same build numbers 6.12 means they are very similar. So I would say no need to change.
From what I understand, 6.20.401 is coming (with some significant updates), not sure if a 1540 build (DevEd) will be coming or not. But that might be more of a reason to change.
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6.20.401? Where I can read about this? Significant updates? 6.0.1?
So, what you would suggest as better option for US territory? WWE or DEV? Also what about Ukraine?
Thanks!
irshansk said:
6.20.401? Where I can read about this? Significant updates? 6.0.1?
So, what you would suggest as better option for US territory? WWE or DEV? Also what about Ukraine?
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Different emoji, and a security patch.
Actually, finding the post, its 6.20.709 for CID HTC__621:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65028941&postcount=3
But if that version is getting updated, I would guess WWE will, as well.
irshansk said:
So, what you would suggest as better option for US territory? WWE or DEV? Also what about Ukraine?
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The only real difference would be the network band support. So what version is best for US, depends on which carrier you are using (or intend to use); as there are 4 major (and numerous small regional) carriers in the US, which all use slightly different bands for 3G, 4G.
As to what version is best for Ukraine, you will need to find what band your intended carrier uses for 3G and 4G; and what version's radio supports those bands.

Is there any way to upgrade the LRA model of the One M9 to Marshmallow?

It seems Bluegrass Cellular, (a regional carrier in my area) never approved the update to Marshmallow, and will probably never approve of the Nougat update. So, I'm stuck on Lollipop, but I'd like newer features and the security patches. If my only option is to do something like S-Off, are there any known RUUs that wouldn't break my functionality?
Thanks in advance, the work you guys do is awesome.
purplekid97 said:
It seems Bluegrass Cellular, (a regional carrier in my area) never approved the update to Marshmallow, and will probably never approve of the Nougat update. So, I'm stuck on Lollipop, but I'd like newer features and the security patches. If my only option is to do something like S-Off, are there any known RUUs that wouldn't break my functionality?
Thanks in advance, the work you guys do is awesome.
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If it is a GSM variant, then converting your phone to the developer SKU would allow you to apply the Nougat RUU that is available. If it is a CDMA variant, you are almost certainly out of luck. Software for CDMA is pretty particular to the carrier and generally not applicable between device variants - to the point that attempting it will probably brick your phone.
Please post your OS version (Settings, About, Software Version) and we'll be able to get a better handle on what options are out there for your phone.
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If it is a GSM variant, then converting your phone to the developer SKU would allow you to apply the Nougat RUU that is available. If it is a CDMA variant, you are almost certainly out of luck. Software for CDMA is pretty particular to the carrier and generally not applicable between device variants - to the point that attempting it will probably brick your phone.
Please post your OS version (Settings, About, Software Version) and we'll be able to get a better handle on what options are out there for your phone.
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Android: 5.1
Software:2.6.512.17
purplekid97 said:
Android: 5.1
Software:2.6.512.17
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Unfortunately, that SKU (512) confirms that your phone is a CDMA variant of the M9. I don't know of any upgrade path available to your device, apart from the carrier actually choosing to produce the software update. I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
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Unfortunately, that SKU (512) confirms that your phone is a CDMA variant of the M9. I don't know of any upgrade path available to your device, apart from the carrier actually choosing to produce the software update. I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
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That's unfortunate. Thank you for your input. Hopefully they'll make it happen eventually. I'll be sure the next phone I purchase will be fully supported by my carrier, or unlocked. I love my One M9 nonetheless.

what model do I have? & what ROMs can I use?

lot's of confusion right now. people saying us unlocked vs WWE and CID 01010101 or MID :silly: basically 2 things. Is there a guide to understand what all these HTC codes mean? and what ROM's can I flahs on my phone.
i have a htc_pmewl PVT s-on. thanks!
drago10029 said:
lot's of confusion right now. people saying us unlocked vs WWE and CID 01010101 or MID :silly: basically 2 things. Is there a guide to understand what all these HTC codes mean? and what ROM's can I flahs on my phone.
i have a htc_pmewl PVT s-on. thanks!
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htc_pmewl is the product version for North American HTC 10s
You can find your CID and MID in download mode. Also your current firmware version is listed as "OS".
All of those are identifiers for your model. CID combined with MID will tell you which model you have (US Unlocked, T-Mo, Verizon, Bell etc), but the firmware version is the easiest way to tell (at least for me).
The firmware number is broken into 4 parts. For mine it is 2.51.617.32
The first part (2) signifies the Android version. On the HTC 10, the 2 signifies Nougat (it increases by one for each version)
The second part (51) signifies the build version from HTC
The third part (617 <----the most important part) signifies the actual model of phone the firmware is meant for. 617 is for US Unlocked, 651 is Sprint, 531 is T-MoUS, 605 is Verizon, and 666 is Bell and 401 is WWE/Europe (there are more, but for htc_pmewl these are the ones that matter ~ 401 is added because you'll see that a lot here)
The fourth and last part (32) signifies the revision of the HTC build
Most of all that information isn't too important except for the third part. That is what you need to pay attention to when flashing firmware and RUUs
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Oh, I forgot to add, you can probably flash pretty much any ROM here. Most are GSM with CDMA (Sprint and Verizon) support added
xunholyx said:
htc_pmewl is the product version for North American HTC 10s
You can find your CID and MID in download mode. Also your current firmware version is listed as "OS".
All of those are identifiers for your model. CID combined with MID will tell you which model you have (US Unlocked, T-Mo, Verizon, Bell etc), but the firmware version is the easiest way to tell (at least for me).
The firmware number is broken into 4 parts. For mine it is 2.51.617.32
The first part (2) signifies the Android version. On the HTC 10, the 2 signifies Nougat (it increases by one for each version)
The second part (51) signifies the build version from HTC
The third part (617 <----the most important part) signifies the actual model of phone the firmware is meant for. 617 is for US Unlocked, 651 is Sprint, 531 is T-MoUS, 605 is Verizon, and 666 is Bell and 401 is WWE/Europe (there are more, but for htc_pmewl these are the ones that matter ~ 401 is added because you'll see that a lot here)
The fourth and last part (32) signifies the revision of the HTC build
Most of all that information isn't too important except for the third part. That is what you need to pay attention to when flashing firmware and RUUs
---------- Post added at 04:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:44 PM ----------
Oh, I forgot to add, you can probably flash pretty much any ROM here. Most are GSM with CDMA (Sprint and Verizon) support added
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thanks for the reply, just seeing it. so based on my model firmware 2.51.617.32 i can flash any ROM or US ROM? also would I have been able to flash the firmware accidently and my phone is actually another model?
again the ultimate goal is to see what types of ROMs i can flash so I can see whcih will give me the best battery life. thanks again!
drago10029 said:
thanks for the reply, just seeing it. so based on my model firmware 2.51.617.32 i can flash any ROM or US ROM? also would I have been able to flash the firmware accidently and my phone is actually another model?
again the ultimate goal is to see what types of ROMs i can flash so I can see whcih will give me the best battery life. thanks again!
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Perhaps it could be changed if the phone is S-Off, but that won't really matter anyway. And the US Unlocked gets the quickest updates. It'll be the first model to get Oreo (based on every update released so far). And yeah, you should be able to flash any ROM for the 10. Any ROM I know of anyway.
xunholyx said:
Perhaps it could be changed if the phone is S-Off, but that won't really matter anyway. And the US Unlocked gets the quickest updates. It'll be the first model to get Oreo (based on every update released so far). And yeah, you should be able to flash any ROM for the 10. Any ROM I know of anyway.
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even non US ROMS safely?? or would that require s off? i assume it will if radio partition and vendor are touched?
coming from a nexus 6p where these questions didn't matter lol
drago10029 said:
even non US ROMS safely?? or would that require s off? i assume it will if radio partition and vendor are touched?
coming from a nexus 6p where these questions didn't matter lol
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Non US ROMs should be fine. Most of the popular ones are actually based on WWE/Europe, but they work fine with US Unlocked, AT&T or TmoUS. And most of them have support added for Sprint and Verizon.
The OP on the ROM threads will let you know what is compatible and not.

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