Hi, yestarday, I've recived LG g3, I've switched to it, because my G2 starting to have very poor battery life, like 10 hours with 3h with screen on. I've searched the forum, and I notice that most of u have 5, 6 hours screen with 30 h or more of use, but for me it will be the same as on g2, maaaaby a little bit better, I've restored all my apps, yes, but non of the battery monitor apps showing that some app is using high percentage of battery, let me show some screen shots:
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/cdc2hdgmmkfbg33/2014-10-08 07.25.06.png?dl=0
Some of them can ba inaccurate, because I've just rebooted my phone, but u see that my phone was on 12 hours (with about 7, 8 hours at night doing nothing and switching to 2G only) I had 2h and 35m of screen, and I didn't play any games, just browsing internet, and I have 46 percent left...
What could causing this poor battery life? It can be some app, that is not showing in battery monitor as a draining one? Or what could be the issue?
You need to root your device and install Better Battery Stats, Xposed Framework, and Wakelock Terminator. Then use bbs to determine which Wakelocks you need to terminate to save battery.
Using this method got my battery drain down to about 1% per 6h of screen off time.
I had to terminate 2 wakelocks to fix my battery life: NlpCollectorWakeLock in Google Play Services, and WifiOffDelayIfNotUsed in Android System.
Nyorbee, I might be wrong, because I own g3 only for a few days, but your battery life looks to be pretty normal to me.
The phone drains really slowly in standby, but 4 hours screen on time during a regular day looks to be quite ok.
Web browsing is particularly taxing on the battery, because of the high res display.
Do not expect the same battery as on G2, from my experience it is lower at least by 1/3 (I upgraded from G2 too).
Gebnar said:
You need to root your device and install Better Battery Stats, Xposed Framework, and Wakelock Terminator. Then use bbs to determine which Wakelocks you need to terminate to save battery.
Using this method got my battery drain down to about 1% per 6h of screen off time.
I had to terminate 2 wakelocks to fix my battery life: NlpCollectorWakeLock in Google Play Services, and WifiOffDelayIfNotUsed in Android System.
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What do you think about that? Everything looks normal to me, but I could be wrong.
I can also test this again with full battery from 0 to 100
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What do you think about that? Everything looks normal to me, but I could be wrong.
I can also test this again with full battery from 0 to 100
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Yeah, we will definitely need more than 10 minutes of data. You don't need to go from 100 to 0 though. Just get some data from a few hours of screen off time and show me both the kernel wakelock and partial wakelock info.
Edit: The screen off time doesn't have to be all at once. However, the easiest way I found to pinpoint my battery drain was to charge the phone fully just before bed, and unplug it overnight.
My sensor usage also strikes me as very high. Is there anyway to figure out what sensors are keeping the phone awake so much of the time?
I need to see your partial wakelock info as well. Those sensor readings alone don't tell me much. One thing to keep in mind: as you reduce the usage of pointless activities, the usage percentiges for other activities like sensors will rise, but this doesn't mean they are consuming more battery.
I also need to know how much of that time the screen was on/off. If your battery drained 70% in 10 hours of screen off time, it wasn't just your sensors, i can assure you.
You should also consider whether your battery is defective. If you get a good amount of screen on time with a full charge, the battery is probably OK. But if you can drain a full charge in an hour or two of heavy use, you might need to replace your battery.
Good luck!
Also try Wakelock Detector / Greenify - an amazing battery combo
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I need to see your partial wakelock info as well. Those sensor readings alone don't tell me much. One thing to keep in mind: as you reduce the usage of pointless activities, the usage percentiges for other activities like sensors will rise, but this doesn't mean they are consuming more battery.
I also need to know how much of that time the screen was on/off. If your battery drained 70% in 10 hours of screen off time, it wasn't just your sensors, i can assure you.
You should also consider whether your battery is defective. If you get a good amount of screen on time with a full charge, the battery is probably OK. But if you can drain a full charge in an hour or two of heavy use, you might need to replace your battery.
Good luck!
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Thanks for the response. Here are the partial wakelocks, captured at the same time. Unfortunately, I didn't capture the "Others" page, but screen on time was about 3 hours. Wake time was considerably higher than screen on time. I've rebooted the phone, in case something weird was going on. I see what these numbers look like tomorrow. If they still seem odd, I'll repost with all the relevant data.
Ok, here are my stats over night:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ukgyhyxxdw9ca7o/2014-10-10 07.05.17.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6zfh9qwffrs2avc/2014-10-10 07.05.38.png?dl=0
I've lost 4 percent of the battery doing nothing over maby 8 hours.
But the real problem is when screen is on, than I'm loosing 1 percent every one or two minutes. I'm out of juice in 10 to 12 hours with less than 4 houurs of screen. I'll show u my stats after full battery cycle. And I have two batteries, it's the same, so I guess this is not battery fault...
If your big drain is coming from screen on time, I suggest using gsam battery monitor to determine what's eating the battery. It's easier to read, and I find the stats a bit more relevant for screen on drain.
4% loss over 8 hours of screen off time doesn't seem bad at all, honestly. Its probably improvable, but not necessarily worth the effort.
What are you doing during your screen on time, and what screen brightness? I can burn a full charge in about 3-4 hours of Netflix at full brightness and full volume, but I get considerably more time if I'm browsing the web at minimum brightness.
Edit: I'd you don't use it, i highly suggest disabling or uninstalling google search. It's a prime culprit for wasting battery. I'm not entirely sure, but this might break google now, if you use that. Of course, google now is also a big battery waster.
Are you on WiFi most of the day? I'm just curious, is this a residential AP or are you on a corporate network? We recently upgraded our school to a Meru wireless network, and since then my battery will go from 100 > 50 in 8 hours, versus 100 > 80+ when at home, and at home I use it even more.
When I use BBS at work, the awake time is MUCH higher, and I also have very high sensor use.
This is mine with wireless on and sync on. Rooted and Unbounced. Removed some programs access to internet.
But when i use it it drains like normal.
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Ok, here are my stats over night:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ukgyhyxxdw9ca7o/2014-10-10%2007.05.17.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6zfh9qwffrs2avc/2014-10-10%2007.05.38.png?dl=0
Ive lost 4 percent of the battery doing nothing over maby 8 hours.
But the real problem is when screen is on, than Im loosing 1 percent every one or two minutes. Im out of juice in 10 to 12 hours with less than 4 houurs of screen. Ill show u my stats after full battery cycle. And I have two batteries, its the same, so I guess this is not battery fault...
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I'm experience a huge draining in battery life just last few days. It was perfectly fine but not anymore. I have tried to factory reset with no luck. I have greenify at work.... I don't know how to read from better batt stats data so I was hoping someone here would be so nice to help me with that.
Here's the log file:
http://goo.gl/xD5HE0
I'm not trying to steel your thread. But since we have the same problem we are search for similar solution....
Is it safe to disabling the services of google? My phone has v10c rom and can at most 3h of screentime.
If you disable Google Play Services you won't be able to use the play store or some other google apps. However, you can use Wakelock Terminator to prevent it from draining your battery.
I have frequently read that some wireless networks can cause more drain than others. If this is what's draining your battery I'm afraid I don't know of any good solution. If you have a good data connection and/or unlimited data, you may get better battery life using that. Have you tried disabling mobile data entirely when you're in Wi-Fi range? I have very limited mobile data, so I keep it off unless I have a specific need for it. I do think this has improved my battery a bit.
Again, i suggest getting gsam battery monitor. It's free on the play store, and offers an easier display of what's eating your battery compared to BBS.
Edit: don't get discouraged if you have some trouble getting your battery life up to spec. It took me three weeks of googling and tweaking to get mine where I'm happy with it.
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Ok, here are my stats over night:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ukgyhyxxdw9ca7o/2014-10-10%2007.05.17.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6zfh9qwffrs2avc/2014-10-10%2007.05.38.png?dl=0
Ive lost 4 percent of the battery doing nothing over maby 8 hours.
But the real problem is when screen is on, than Im loosing 1 percent every one or two minutes. Im out of juice in 10 to 12 hours with less than 4 houurs of screen. Ill show u my stats after full battery cycle. And I have two batteries, its the same, so I guess this is not battery fault...
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Go to settings/apps/Google play service/uninstall updates.
That did the trick for e
svavartr said:
Go to settings/apps/Google play service/uninstall updates.
That did the trick for e
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Unless you're using Hangouts...
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Use greenify with root and xposed.
Also, I hear that battery is better after a week or two.
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Here are my stats after 80 % of battery waste:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xj408mf0r9m8ric/2014-10-11 03.31.57.png?dl=0
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I've got just 10 h, and maby hour or hour and a half os screen
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So today, with pretty heavy usage (at work...checking facebook, twitter, email, web, texting, maybe 15 mins of youtube) I ran through all 100% of my Samsung 2100mah battery from 7:30am until 1:30pm. And I put my 100% fully charged third-party 2200mah battery in right after and now it's at 40% by now.
Unbelievably how terrible the battery life is with the S3.
This is with wifi turned off. with GPS and bluetooth turned off. with not a ton of apps running in the background.
So 1.6 fully charged batteries in 10 hours of occasional use. Wow.
The battery life is like 95% the only reason why I miss my iPhone.
ps. yes I've done the fully charging and fully discharging thing with these batteries.
That's either a bad device or something rogue is running. You are one of the few with that bad of battery.
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I have no idea what in the hell it is.
I am rooted, running CyanogenMod 10.
I forgot I had music playing for part of the day, and some internet streaming radio (at like 48kbps).
Either way. 160% battery life cycle in 10 hours of sort of heavy usage is nuts.
In the morning I'll be just reading news on Flipboard and Pulse with brightness at like 60% and running wifi, no GPS running, with no huge apps in the background and it can go from 100% to 90% in like 30 minutes of reading news.
Could be a bad device or maybe some garbage running in the background. I get 14+ hours of average use out of my device.
I usually go by screen time. I get about 4.5 to 5 hrs on a charge with Sync on andeeverything. Running tasks Aokp jellybean
My 4200 mah hyperion battery is fantastic. Easily over a full 24 hour period with 9-10 hours screen time
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My 4200 mah hyperion battery is fantastic. Easily over a full 24 hour period with 9-10 hours screen time
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Seeing posts like this make me want to order that battery. Probably will this weekend.
Okay, I know comparing battery stats is almost pointless but I will finally share my experience.
I am a copier technician. I work roughly 8-10hr days. I am literally constantly on my phone. Why? Because I use OTG USB A LOT. My usb flash drive is connected to my phone from the time I get to my first service call, to the time I get in my truck to drive home. I use OTG because I have to use different service manuals through out the day. So I am constantly accessing my flash drive for at least 45 minutes, each hour, every hour until my day is done. By the time I get home, I am down to about 30% or so, give or take 5% maybe. I use it at home to browse XDA until it just about dies. Charge it all night, than do it all again the next day. By the way, on my way to and from work, I play music in my truck. So roughly I get 10-14hrs out of my stock battery.
I have 58 apps installed. And Adobe Reader and sometimes that stock PDF doc viewer bloat is constantly running because my service manuals are pdf.
IDK.... There are so many threads/posts about battery life. I enjoy my Smartphone to the fullest. Run a ton of apps and and many widgets.
I used to try to do EVERYTHING to increase battery life, task managers, Better Battery Stats, going thru cycles of discharging and charging, wiping batt stats, calibrating battery, (which I still do). Underclocking, messing with voltages, etc etc etc.
It got to the point where I was so concerned about battery life I was missing all the great features of these phones.
I use my phone and all its features to the full potential. I bought a cpl batteries I keep charged around me incase I need them. And Overclock and just enjoy my phone.
Watching my battery life constantly and doing everything thing I can to increase it just took the fun out of of having a Smartphone with all these features.
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So today, with pretty heavy usage (at work...checking facebook, twitter, email, web, texting, maybe 15 mins of youtube) I ran through all 100% of my Samsung 2100mah battery from 7:30am until 1:30pm. And I put my 100% fully charged third-party 2200mah battery in right after and now it's at 40% by now.
Unbelievably how terrible the battery life is with the S3.
This is with wifi turned off. with GPS and bluetooth turned off. with not a ton of apps running in the background.
So 1.6 fully charged batteries in 10 hours of occasional use. Wow.
The battery life is like 95% the only reason why I miss my iPhone.
ps. yes I've done the fully charging and fully discharging thing with these batteries.
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What I've noticed on my att GS3 is that the battery destroyer without a shadow of a doubt is the LTE/HSPA+ radio. With this on battery drains at least 10% per hour especially with the LH9 update. As a test I shut off only mobile data toggle and the amazing battery life I had with my iPhone 4 returned on a more advanced phone. However, that came at the cost of having to shut off the mobile data connection. Mobile data toggle off all day at work 8+ hours and when I got home battery was like 85%.
I believe the data radio is the culprit and I hope they learn how to optimize its battery usage.
Had the same issue with the stock battery I had for 2 months, where just playing music screen off with about 15 minutes of data drained ~40% of my battery in about 2 hrs. Decided to get a replacment, with the same usage I still had 86% after 2 hours. Battery drop has also gotten worse with LTE on the LH1 update
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Sianspheric said:
So today, with pretty heavy usage (at work...checking facebook, twitter, email, web, texting, maybe 15 mins of youtube) I ran through all 100% of my Samsung 2100mah battery from 7:30am until 1:30pm. And I put my 100% fully charged third-party 2200mah battery in right after and now it's at 40% by now.
Unbelievably how terrible the battery life is with the S3.
This is with wifi turned off. with GPS and bluetooth turned off. with not a ton of apps running in the background.
So 1.6 fully charged batteries in 10 hours of occasional use. Wow.
The battery life is like 95% the only reason why I miss my iPhone.
ps. yes I've done the fully charging and fully discharging thing with these batteries.
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Rooted phone with CM10 ROM, stock battery installed - I get about 13 hours of extremely heavy usage (Wi-fi, Bluetooth on, 3G when not near Wi-fi, checking Facebook, stocks, mail, etc.) out of mine:
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I'd say you've got a bad battery, or a bad phone, or your ROM is bonked - there's no way you're burning through that much juice with normal operation. Maybe talk to your provider and see if you can swap the handset?
Oh, and discharging/charging your batteries does absolutely nothing. Li+ batteries have no memory, so you don't need to drain them - just use them out of the box and they'll work fine.
Might be a bad device or some garbage may run in the background, my cheap Lvbattery the Extended Battery For the Samsung Galaxy S3 [4500mAh the extend the battery] purchase. Eiemall.com fantastic. Easily over a full day
flashed a different ROM than C9/C10, "Triune 2" and started using the excellent battery/setting tweaks in "Go Power Master" and have noticed a pretty decent improvement.
Mainly by having Power Master turn off wifi/gps/location services while the screen is off, and only having my music/messaging apps running and shutting the rest off.
Highly recommend that app.
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knightblaze said:
My 4200 mah hyperion battery is fantastic. Easily over a full 24 hour period with 9-10 hours screen time
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How much did that cost?
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How much did that cost?
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looks like its about $25 on amazon
but its thicker than the normal battery, so you get a extended back cover with it. sounds awesome but if you (wisely) use a case with your GS3, you'd have to find a different case
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-Extended-Compatible-GT-i9300-T-mobile/dp/B008GWIVTQ/ref=pd_cp_cps_0
I have always felt that stock has offered the best battery life in both standby and active. I re installed 100% stock rooted with this method (thanks reddevil) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2052321. I also installed the LG Optimus fast dormancy tool that I found on another XDA forum and can be downloaded here: https://drive.google.com/fe/m?gsessionid=WZD8FPkXXWpJWcFV3xyoCg# and this is what I acheived:
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Swetnes said:
I have always felt that stock has offered the best battery life in both standby and active. I re installed 100% stock rooted with this method (thanks reddevil) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2052321. I also installed the LG Optimus fast dormancy tool that I found on another XDA forum and can be downloaded here: https://drive.google.com/fe/m?gsessionid=WZD8FPkXXWpJWcFV3xyoCg# and this is what I acheived:
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Which battery are you using? Stock or extended?
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Which battery are you using? Stock or extended?
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Stock... Sweet huh? I found that by disabling fast dormancy it makes a huge difference in standby battery drain. Unfortunately it only works on stock (all versions). Without it the internal timer is always waking up the phone to check on network status which really isn't needed. I also have gotten away from using the hi-cap so on could use cases
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How much screen time?
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How much screen time?
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I actually didn't look maybe a little less than an hour. Did surf for a while and paid some bills a few phone calls and the flat spot on the graph was over night so it would say very light use. I usually use my phone a lot more but forgot my charger at work so I was deliberately used it conservatively. The dashes below the graph are the wake times.
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I'm getting pretty much the same with data turned off (sync for 5 mins only every hour) and not using the phone (2-3 % discharge per hour).
But the thing is, when i actually use the phone (screen, web browsing) it discharges like 30-40% per hour (non-stop use). I feel this is wrong, is it?
Fast dormancy fix applied.
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I'm getting pretty much the same with data turned off (sync for 5 mins only every hour) and not using the phone (2-3 % discharge per hour).
But the thing is, when i actually use the phone (screen, web browsing) it discharges like 30-40% per hour (non-stop use). I feel this is wrong, is it?
Fast dormancy fix applied.
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We have almost no adjustments that can be made with screen on. Maybe some tweaking here or there. My biggest concern was power drain with screen off. I set out on this quest when I first got the phone in May and it had Gingerbread and I was draining like 5% / hr with the screen off. CM9 was better but horrible with screen on. I found stock to be the best balance but until I found this FD app it was still draining 1-2% per hour now it's like every 2 - 3 hrs. To get back to your question.... Is it normal? Well yes and maybe it really depends on what you are doing.. Surfing the Web... Not so much. Talking on the phone.... Playing games, etc heck yes that is normal. Try adjusting screen brightness and also an app like juice defender that can dynamically adjust cpu & screen.
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dude if 24% of ur battery is standby that means you didn't use the phone... i can get 24h on standby too, and i don't run juice defender etc...
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dude if 24% of ur battery is standby that means you didn't use the phone... i can get 24h on standby too, and i don't run juice defender etc...
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You are missing the whole point of my posting. I was promoting the capability to improve the Nitro's battery life while in standby. We Nitro users can get all the battery life we can get and it is up to you if you want to reduce stand by battery usage by over 50% by using this FD toggle app. I would suggest trying this app for 2 days and use your phone like you normally do then two days without it and see for yourself if you have better battery life. Just a heads up with the app DISABLE must be selected for it to work. Pay special attention to Android System power usage vs Cell Standby power usage. If Android System is more than Cell Standby you will have greater power usage with screen off.
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my point was i get better battery life than that with no battery saver and no fast dormant tool, i use liquid nitro v6 and callibrate my battery every other week, right now this is what my usage reads.
35% battery remaining.
Usage
36% screen
18% standby
13% android os
8% phone idle
7% android system
5% media server
5% wifi
4% voice calls
3% bluetooth
2% power amp
2% google chrome
Time 1D 0H 55M 45s On battery (still35% remaining)
this battery will still last another 10 hours, total usage will be around 36 hours and i used LESS standby/idle time than you, hense i'm getting far more out of my battery with less mods. im running V20c liquid nitro V6 wind kenerl v3.0 with NO BATTERY APPS (battery apps usually consume as much energy as they save sometims more sometimes less depending on system environment) the stock battery saver on this phone doesn't even turn on until 30% battery so mine hasn't turned on yet, but all it does is disable whatever services u want once phone reaches 30%. if you want to get more out of your battery, just run an efficient rom, calibrate battery properly (ask me if u need info) and be smart with what apps you install.
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i'm gonna let the battery run under 5% then take a screenshot
The FD tool actually doesn't stay resident it initiates a script that starts at boot but I would be interested in the other tools you have used as it might also work on other OS's as I am playing with 10.1 right now. One word of caution I have been told by devs on this site that battery calibration does more harm than good. Also I haven't been able to run v6 phone keeps rebooting
One more thing what battery are you using and what was your on screen time? Well I guess that's two
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One word of caution I have been told by devs on this site that battery calibration does more harm than good.
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Yeah these batteries don't like to go all the way to zero. I've owned 9 android devices and have tinkered a lot- the conclusion I've drawn is that you get a nice placebo effect from "calibrating" the battery.
i tested 3 batteries, their life on standby and running video from 100% to 0% and all 3 batteries had better life after calibration, in every test. call me crazy but it seems to work. the only explination i can come up with is that people don't do it properly. i got my battery wipe procedure from this page: i did exactly what he said to calibrate my battery i tested 3 differant batteries and it helped all 3 one of them got 15% more life on video playback and 35% more on stanby after calibration.
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-hacking-guides/14714-how-optimize-battery-life-speed.html
step 3 is battery calibration. EDIT -> this step is found under section 2b Operation System.
note: i am not agreeing with everything on this thread i'm just saying that i tested batteries after using those steps for calibration and they all performed better after.
side note: it would be interesting to test what the battery lifes would be if i was to wipe the battery stats in CWM whent he battery was 50% charge. then let randomly charge it without doing the proper full discharge and recharge, and see if that ruins that battery life. i suspect that it would, and this is why people think it harms the battery, im not an expert this is just an assumption. my testing was not extensive enough to prove this only to prove that the batteries i was using had better life on the roms i tested them on in both video and standby after calibration.
few things i want to point out.
i used my phone more (less standby and more screen usage)
i got longer battery life.
i didn't waste 7% of my battery on juice defender
i used more apps and media tools.
i'm using stock battery and my rom is linked in sig
i had wi-fi or data on 24/7 sometimes both
stock battery.
as i respect other peoples opinions my science background leads me to lead towards strong evidence until i see stronger evidence supporting another theory.
here is battery at 7%
*edit* for the purpose of this test i turned off the stock battery saver (the thing that turns off wifi etc under 30%) at 32% so it never even came on
Our devices use a 4600 mAh battery and was wondering if anyone ever actually sees that figure? I've been struggling to get more than 4-5 hours use and started investigating why. The highest I've ever seen on a full charge is 4309 and the average is about 4260-4280.
Another strange thing I've noticed is that if I start playing a game with 100% charge and the tab plugged in I still loose about 1% per minute.
I've tried multiple roms and they all seem about the same as far as battery usage goes. Right now I'm back to the stock LG KitKat as it seems to perform about the best for me and very stable. I use the battery calibration app and was wondering is there another that might work better?
In closing looking forward to any suggestions or advise
Yep,same for me.battery life is terrible.have tried multiple roms,lucky to get anywhere near 4hrs.
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I just tried an experiment, 100% charged, unplugged tab w/o turning anything on and I already lost 7% in 15 minutes !! I have Greenify installed and all non system apps hibernated and it still eats the battery.
My Sero Pro can sit all day and only loose 1%. If I could be sure I would receive a perfect unit I would consider RMA. But after reading all the issues with the screen problems I'm not going to take the chance. My tab is perfect aside from battery life.
I found a replacement battery on Ebay and am considering buying it to see if I have a bad battery. Something definitely isn't right.
I went to Mahdi rom as soon as I got my tablet about 2 weeks ago. This past weekend I did two battery tests.
These tests were done with wifi always on (medium signal strength, most google apps synced, google location reporting off, no twitter/facebook app, no greenify or any power management apps
If I left the display on indoors at auto brightness, it lasted for about 7-8 hours.
If I left the tablet idle (display off), it consumed about 3% per day (most of it consumed by wifi).
I would suggest trying the same thing with yours and see whether its a hardware issue. You can just do it for a few hours and extrapolate.
I've never calibrated my battery (drain until its empty) unless I notice an erratic drain from a constant task.
Mine is the same, not being used it drains almost nothing. Currently mine is at 49%, been unplugged about 12 hours with 2:47 of screen on time according to the battery stats in settings. 100% stock KitKat, bluetooth off. 15 minutes of screen off (with the screen on long enough to look at battery settings) and no % lost.
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Mine is the same, not being used it drains almost nothing. Currently mine is at 49%, been unplugged about 12 hours with 2:47 of screen on time according to the battery stats in settings. 100% stock KitKat, bluetooth off. 15 minutes of screen off (with the screen on long enough to look at battery settings) and no % lost.
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Same. If I leave it in standby overnight, I see zero battery drain (in 8 hours). I also tested a full HD movie (1080p) in full screen at 45% brightness and medium loudspeaker volume, and measured roughly 12-14% drain per hour, which suggests it could run 7-8 hours of movie playback on a single charge.
I'm happy with my battery usage. I think it's at least as good as my 2012 N7.
Here's a screen shot of usage just reading the other day. Keep in mind I mainly stop my tablet charging at between 90-95% as often as possible.
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I'm with the OP as far as battery drain goes. Mine loses almost 10% in 12 hours at idle with wifi on. With wifi off it'll lose about 3-4% in 12 hours. I haven't done a full to zero test, but battery life is not that great on my personal unit. That is the only thing I don't like about it. I'm running idterror's v50018a ROM.
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I'm with the OP as far as battery drain goes. Mine loses almost 10% in 12 hours at idle with wifi on. With wifi off it'll lose about 3-4% in 12 hours. I haven't done a full to zero test, but battery life is not that great on my personal unit. That is the only thing I don't like about it. I'm running idterror's v50018a ROM.
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Then you have an issue with software you installed. It is neither the battery nor the ROM.
Well I went ahead and ordered the battery. I'm fairly confident it'll solve my problem. To Subtleone, with my tablet even with a barebones install I still have real bad battery life. It does not change very much between barebones and all my apps installed.
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Then you have an issue with software you installed. It is neither the battery nor the ROM.
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I don't think so. Even with a barebones install I get similar battery drain. But I knew the G Pad had terrible battery life going in as noted by every industry review I read prior to purchase.
Don't have any battery problems here (stock KitKat, rooted and most non-system apps greenified), get about 6 hours screen-on time at 70-100% brightness when reading books (wifi off) and an hour or so browsing/youtube'ing.
Are people actually going by unplug time until the device physically shuts down, or just what the battery bar claims? Battery stats are rarely 100% accurate, and there's protection measures built in to prevent a battery actually reaching 100% or 0% despite what the device says.
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I don't think so. Even with a barebones install I get similar battery drain. But I knew the G Pad had terrible battery life going in as noted by every industry review I read prior to purchase.
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Except that I don't have terrible battery life. In fact, most don't. With KitKat (the one in my sig), with WiFi on, I get exactly 0% drain after 8 hours with it in standby (not actually off). Zero. Needless to say, I do not have any known battery killers such as the Facebook app.
At 45% brightness or so, I see about 13% battery drain after an hour of watching a 1080p movie in full screen with sound coming through loudspeakers.
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Except that I don't have terrible battery life. In fact, most don't. With KitKat (the one in my sig), with WiFi on, I get exactly 0% drain after 8 hours with it in standby (not actually off). Zero. Needless to say, I do not have any known battery killers such as the Facebook app.
At 45% brightness or so, I see about 13% battery drain after an hour of watching a 1080p movie in full screen with sound coming through loudspeakers.
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That's incredible. What exactly are your settings? And what are these known battery killer apps so I can freeze them when I'm traveling?
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That's incredible. What exactly are your settings? And what are these known battery killer apps so I can freeze them when I'm traveling?
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Biggest battery eaters are apps like Google+ and Facebook.
UCCW and Weather apps too. Also having gps on.
There's some smashing eye candy apps for use and just for info on your lockscreen, they all seem to suck juice like no tomorrow. It's all the updating they do.
Best advice is to use something like wakelock detector to highlight your problem apps, then use greenify to get them to sleep properly. Also have your wifi set to only stay on when your tablet is plugged in.
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To test a lot of theory I loaded up stock LG KitKat this A.M. . After letting it install and rebooting 3 times in 60 minutes I turned off WIFI and GPS and left it idle. In 4 hours and 12 minutes I was at 79%. Keep in mind when I left it idle the last time I was at 100%.
So at least in "my" case its most certainly not the software. My battery is scheduled for delivery 5/9/14. I'm hoping that will solve the battery issues.
Once I receive the new battery I'll update the thread. And thanks for the replies
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Biggest battery eaters are apps like Google+ and Facebook.
UCCW and Weather apps too. Also having gps on.
There's some smashing eye candy apps for use and just for info on your lockscreen, they all seem to suck juice like no tomorrow. It's all the updating they do.
Best advice is to use something like wakelock detector to highlight your problem apps, then use greenify to get them to sleep properly. Also have your wifi set to only stay on when your tablet is plugged in.
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My GPS is always on so I do not think it drains battery in any unusual way. I'll also add that it works darn well. I used the tablet for navigation in a car and it was impressive.
So to continue the theories I put my screen @ 50% watched 60 minutes of 1080p video via MX Player and lost 31%! That's totally bare aside from MX Player. So after seeing Subtelone's results I'm very convinced I indeed have a bad battery.
I know it's not a fair comparison but I've been using my mum's Acer W4 tablet as my 8.3 is being repaired for bad LCD (mura/spots). The W8.1 tablet actually gives me about 8-9 hours of web browsing time. Yes, it's got fewer pixels to push but bear in mind it is running the full fat Windows 8! I just think it's quite disappointing that the LG pad for me barely lasts 4 hours SOT when I mainly use it for web browsing.
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So to continue the theories I put my screen @ 50% watched 60 minutes of 1080p video via MX Player and lost 31%! That's totally bare aside from MX Player. So after seeing Subtelone's results I'm very convinced I indeed have a bad battery.
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Yes, something is seriously wrong with your battery if everything else is identical. My results are exactly as posted.
Battery seems to be getting much much better as I'm using the phone, phone was on 100% at half 6 this morning and now it's 8 at night with 37% that's with mobile data on all day no WiFi until I took the screenshot I had it turned on
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I no not much heavy tasks or gaming but allot of video watching and going through Google feed, just daily usage while at work
That's awesome! Do you have 5G enabled or is it available in your area?
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That's awesome! Do you have 5G enabled or is it available in your area?
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There is 5g in the area but I'm not on a contract deal, I'm "pay as you go" so I can only get 4g, I don't really need 5g I get over 200mbs , apparently lol, when I run speed test.
I have had the phone for a week now and I must say battery life has been great for me, I have an average usage with 50% WiFI and 50% 4G LTE, i have been getting 5-7 hours of SoT on a daily basis. The variance between 5-7 is normal as it adjusts on total battery time. On days where i dont use the screen much, the battery extends to the next day as the screen has been off majority of the time. But on days where i reach 7h of SoT, the battery dies out by the time i sleep.
something is wrong with your phone. your mobile network % is really high and you are not even on 5G.
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something is wrong with your phone. your mobile network % is really high and you are not even on 5G.
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It's normal for the pixel 6.
Every pixel 6 has it, assuming it's the Samsung modern
Not on my 6pro. Many people also reported that they don't have a high battery consumption on the network standby. Mine ranges from 2-10%. With 5G disabled.
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Not on my 6pro. Many people also reported that they don't have a high battery consumption on the network standby. Mine ranges from 2-10%. With 5G disabled.
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Mines similar with 5G enabled (and a contract sim which uses it), so not sure why you brought 5G into the equation. 9% for the last 24 hours, was 7% yesterday.
5g drains my battery quicker. hence why I disabled it.
Anyone know what's idle drain with AOD on ?
My batt life seems to be getting better with use as well.
Still on November .36, rooted, Despair Kernel, 5G active, WiFi scanning off, AOD on, not much tweaked yet.
Got this SOT the end of November. I'm happy and love my P6P!
Big test for mine yesterday coming back from Scotland. Off charge at 7am and then an 8 hour coach ride with mixed no signal, 2G, 3G, 4G and 5G coverage, i watched a 2 hour film, read flipboard, used Facebook, used twitter, sent messages via Signal, sent messages via Google Messages, listened to some music using Poweramp, got home posted loads of photos on social media (finally back on Wi-Fi) and at 9pm last night i had 40% left and had to put it on charge for the December update.
Mine is fully stock, Wi-Fi left on, Bluetooth is on for Fitbit connectivity and Covid tracing, NFC is on, AOD off.
The longest SoT I've had was just yesterday, with close to 13hrs. I was mainly on wifi doing a bunch of web surfing and chat.
I know there's been some questions of, who uses their phone to browse websites all day, and I can be one of those people lol.
Other times my battery usage varies greatly depending on how much I charge and use it. I was able to get around 8.5hrs just from an 85% charge with mixed usage of wifi and cellular.
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The longest SoT I've had was just yesterday, with close to 13hrs. I was mainly on wifi doing a bunch of web surfing and chat.
I know there's been some questions of, who uses their phone to browse websites all day, and I can be one of those people lol.
Other times my battery usage varies greatly depending on how much I charge and use it. I was able to get around 8.5hrs just from an 85% charge with mixed usage of wifi and cellular.
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How on earth do you get 337mah drain with screen on. are you using it on 0 brightness. mine drains 700mah easily with screen on. i also get abysmal deep sleep percentage around the 50% deep sleep. Worst battery on a phone ive ever owned
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How on earth do you get 337mah drain with screen on. are you using it on 0 brightness. mine drains 700mah easily with screen on. i also get abysmal deep sleep percentage around the 50% deep sleep. Worst battery on a phone ive ever owned
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That's about what I get too, 300 - 400 mAh. Also overnight I get at least 93% deep sleep if not more. Something is keeping your phone awake while you are doing nothing so I don't believe it's a bad phone or battery. It's a bad app or misconfiguration. You need to find what that is and correct it.
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That's about what I get too, 300 - 400 mAh. Also overnight I get at least 93% deep sleep if not more. Something is keeping your phone awake while you are doing nothing so I don't believe it's a bad phone or battery. It's a bad app or misconfiguration. You need to find what that is and correct it.
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Yes i believe it is something to do with an app but cant seem to narrow it down to which one. On airplane mode it instantly goes to deep sleep. Deep sleep is good overnight. At around 91 percent but during the day when im checking my phone every 10-15mins i get 40-50percent deep sleep. Brightness is at 70 percent usually and screen on around 600-700mah. No 5g enabled on wifi.
ed0214 said:
How on earth do you get 337mah drain with screen on. are you using it on 0 brightness. mine drains 700mah easily with screen on. i also get abysmal deep sleep percentage around the 50% deep sleep. Worst battery on a phone ive ever owned
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Same how are people's drain with the phone so low. I phone has similar deep sleep too. I don't get how people are getting 6-8 SOT. Even updating to the December didn't seem to help munch.
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Same how are people's drain with the phone so low. I phone has similar deep sleep too. I don't get how people are getting 6-8 SOT. Even updating to the December didn't seem to help munch.
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These look like my stats. I use similar apps to you like fb, messenger, insta and snap
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Yes i believe it is something to do with an app but cant seem to narrow it down to which one. On airplane mode it instantly goes to deep sleep. Deep sleep is good overnight. At around 91 percent but during the day when im checking my phone every 10-15mins i get 40-50percent deep sleep. Brightness is at 70 percent usually and screen on around 600-700mah. No 5g enabled on wifi.
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I use GSam Battery monitor to see which apps are high drainage, and then if necessary I kill those specific apps since they're probably stuck running in the background somehow.
GSam Battery Monitor - Apps on Google Play
GSam Battery Monitor provides deep insights into what is using your battery.
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AKN_92 said:
Same how are people's drain with the phone so low. I phone has similar deep sleep too. I don't get how people are getting 6-8 SOT. Even updating to the December didn't seem to help munch.
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6hrs SoT isn't much depending on how much battery you have. You have a pretty high drainage with the screen off of about 2% idle drain an hour. Ideally it should be about 0.5 - 0.7% hr. Anything higher will cause your battery to drop pretty fast, which is likely the result of some app or unoptimized battery usage in the background. I would do some digging to see what's causing this and it should improve your overall usage.
Hey Guys,
you have also a massiv battery drain on your Pixel Device?
I need to charge it twice a day since I updated to Android 13 ...
Do you think Google will fix it asap?
There are a ton of battery life threads in this section - more than one page of search results. I know battery life has been mentioned with regards to Android 13 in some threads in this section, although I'm not sure if it was in a battery-specific thread.
For what it's worth, I haven't noticed any difference on mine.
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Have you checked to see in the battery usage what's using it
I had this problem before. The fix was completely wipe the device then install everything from scratch, not using restore service. Additionally, I putting background restriction on many battery hungry apps like Facebook, Messenger, Google Maps, etc... Also, I'm using Kirisakura kernel on top of battery restriction. My battery can last up to 22-23 hours.
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I had this problem before. The fix was completely wipe the device then install everything from scratch, not using restore service. Additionally, I putting background restriction on many battery hungry apps like Facebook, Messenger, Google Maps, etc... Also, I'm using Kirisakura kernel on top of battery restriction. My battery can last up to 22-23 hours.
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hmmmm, thats a shame, because it is bad enough setting everything back up again after restoring it. But incredible the battery life you are getting.
My phone has Shamesung health app smashing battery, phone idle and and mobile network cosuming huge battery again
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hmmmm, thats a shame, because it is bad enough setting everything back up again after restoring it. But incredible the battery life you are getting.
My phone has Shamesung health app smashing battery, phone idle and and mobile network cosuming huge battery again
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Try disabling the Physical Activity permission of the Samsung Health App, it might actually do wonders when it comes to battery life. While it wouldn't affect your watch, your device would no longer be able to count steps [for me, that was worth the trade-off].
the answer is bluetooth and wifi failure and trying to reconnect NONSTOP. after 4 factory resets my phone suddenly doesnt do it anymore and battery life is fine. came to this conclusion when i connected my galaxy watch to my phone and is disconnected every couple minutes. looking at the quick settings id see bluetooth looking like its resetting itself. i didnt check the crash log but at this point its kind of common sense what it was. after some research last night i saw i wasnt the only one. it actually was so bad that my phone died over night even tho it was 43% when i went to sleep
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/wrfqze
I had my first full day with A13 yesterday and it was hard not to notice how fast the battery was draining, I would have expected this to have been picked up during beta testing
Less than 24 hours since update and I noticed it too.
My Pixel 6 used to be awesome in terms of battery.
But today, after 9 hours it's 30%. It's been some heavy usage, but it should be 50% at least.
Edit: The second day things went back to normal. After 16 hours i'm still at 66%.
The battery drain is bad for the initial 3-4 charge cycles, then it goes back to what was "normal" on A12. Which sucks, since if you listen to YouTube (downloads only, screen off) and use Google Maps while snapping photos (20-30 and no video), the phone will die in less than 8 hours.
In other words, the phone is unfit for travel. Pitty, because the camera is great.
You would think that now that Google has better control over the hardware and complete control over the software (including services), plus a huge 5000mAh battery, the P6P would do far better.
Sure, it's better than my last Pixel, a 3XL, but that was so bad I swore off Pixels.
The iPhone 13 Pro Max lasts twice as long with a much smaller 4353mAh battery. Without having to turn off 5G or regular services. What a joke.
SITREP !
Bluetooth issue still ongoing and still causing the major battery drain. Has 0 to do with what this guy said ^ . Sometimes its OK but most times it just crashed and restarts.
I dont have any of those issues. I guess I got lucky.
43% and it died overnight? Dude that is insane. Even if it is Bluetooth/wifi keeping the phone from truly going into deep sleep, you wouldn't think that alone would be able to completely drain the battery to 0 over the course of what... 5 - 8 hours? (Unless your my ex, then it's more like 14 hours ). Have you pulled any logs or looked at the battery usage? I'd be hesitant to believe that there isn't more going on there contributing to the massive drain. Gotta love google... I remember the first talks of Android 13 was geared towards smarter battery usage. Go figure.
Today my phone has been (and is yet cause the battery is not charged) plugged to a google charger for 3 hours and half and the battery has charged from 40% to 82%
The phone had the screen off for 1 hour by this time. This was when the battery recovered 40%.
I tend to think that we've got, Houston, a big problem here...
No massive battery drain for me. 8.39%/hr active drain and .80%/hr idle drain on stock kernel. Active drain is a little higher than usual for me, probably because of rebooting many times doing stuffs.
Fast charging is also the same for me using an Anker Nano II 30W charger. No problems in that area.
I have no solution, but I can confirm this is an issue. I had no issue before the update lasting up to even 2 days with light use. Now, I even with battery saver turned on, it dies in about 6 hours in my pocket.
I just went on a trip to Toronto last week and it was terrible, had to keep my phone powered off in my pocket so I could still be sure to have enough battery to get an uber back to my airbnb.
So far today at work. I unplugged my phone at 730am to leave for work, it's 1105 and typing this out is the most I've used my phone. It is both warm to the touch and the battery is at 73%.no wait 72% it just went down...
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I have no solution, but I can confirm this is an issue. I had no issue before the update lasting up to even 2 days with light use. Now, I even with battery saver turned on, it dies in about 6 hours in my pocket.
I just went on a trip to Toronto last week and it was terrible, had to keep my phone powered off in my pocket so I could still be sure to have enough battery to get an uber back to my airbnb.
So far today at work. I unplugged my phone at 730am to leave for work, it's 1105 and typing this out is the most I've used my phone. It is both warm to the touch and the battery is at 73%.no wait 72% it just went down...
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Here are 2 examples showing the difference between before and after A13
Just when I was about to switch to my P6P, I'm reading all these problems with slow charging and mediocre battery life. I wonder how widespread they are?
I can't use a new phone that seems to have a worse battery life than my P4XL...
Not to mention the whole sideloading apk FC thing.
Guys, I am also having massive issues with my new Pixel 6 phone which is approx 10 days old only....
A12 was fine for the first days then I want to A13 and then all hell brooke lose The battery drain is awful and I am facing these problems :
- Phone idle is between 20-37% - even when phone is in flight mode for the night it consumes 20-30% instead of normal 1-2%
- Viber is draining battery with 20%+ consuming when its not really used shows usage of 20+ hours Never had such issue.
I am over now 4-5 recharge cycles and I have turned off adaptive almost anywhere... What to do?
Just pray and wait for Google to drop a fix/patch for A13 for our Pixel 6 ???
For those that upgraded from A12 to A13 and having the issue, have you wiped the phone (factory reset) and started fresh? I know it's a PITA getting everything setup again, but that's crazy. I was at 100 percent at 7 am, now 7 hours later, I am at 66 percent with pretty heavy usage... Generally YouTube constantly along with everything else I'm doing. By no means is my battery life amazing, but def comparable to A12 on my end.