My extremely short review of the Moto 360 - Moto 360

In short:
- It looks amazing on the wrist and it's worth the price and desire only for this "feature" (I have the silver version).
- It's so confortable you forget you wear it.
- As of now you can't do any useful things with it. The heart rate monitor barely works when you stand still, let alone when you move. It's just for fun and conversation. My LG G2 notification LED is so powerful that it can communicate more things than the watch can.
- It's just a lame remote for the phone right now.
What is needed (mostly from Androir Wear):
- Canned responses, easily accessible and sortable.
- Different vibration patterns depending on notification type (API ?)
- Standalone Wi-Fi functioning (as I understand, the Moto 360 has the Wi-Fi hardware)
- More open API to enable more powerful applications
- I think it's possible to type on the watch, but Google just needs to let developers try it in an official way
Hopefully the Apple Watch approach with powerful applications residing on the watch will "inspire" the Android Wear team to enable more stand-alone functionality.
That's about it. I like the hardware a lot, but the software is in its infancy. I think Samsung's Tizen approach is appropriate at this time, given how limited the Android Wear is.

kevinlevrone said:
In short:
- It looks amazing on the wrist and it's worth the price and desire only for this "feature" (I have the silver version).
- It's so confortable you forget you wear it.
- As of now you can't do any useful things with it. It's just for fun and conversation. My LG G2 notification LED is so powerful that it can communicate more things that the watch can.
- It's just a lame remote for the phone right now.
What is needed (mostly from Androir Wear):
- Canned responses, easily accessible and sortable.
- Different vibration patterns depending on notification type (API ?)
- Standalone Wi-Fi functioning (as I understand, the Moto 360 has the Wi-Fi hardware)
- More open API to enable more powerful applications
- I think it's possible to type on the watch, but Google just needs to let developers try it in an official way
Hopefully the Apple Watch approach with powerful applications residing on the watch will "inspire" the Android Wear team to enable more stand-alone functionality.
That's about it. I like the hardware a lot, but the software is in its infancy. I think Samsung's Tizen approach is appropriate at this time, given how limited the Android Wear is.
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disagree with the "can't do anything useful" comment...
use autovoice, tasker and google search api and the possibilities are limited to what tasker can do (almost limitless). requires root and a little work, but i now have my watch running tasker tasks including controlling my home automation system... i feel like james bond. "ok, google. flush toilet!"
can't wait for android L

Nub question. What's API ?
Will we see upgrades with Wear 2.0/ Android L?
I'm expecting my watch by the 15th...the wait is killing me.

gerg004 said:
Nub question. What's API ?
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=API

Wiley_11 said:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=API
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Thank you, sir.
I mean, Troll*.

kevinlevrone said:
In short:
- Canned responses, easily accessible and sortable.
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I agree that they should be sortable, but it has canned responses.
Tap reply to a text or email, instead of speaking, swipe up.
Yes
No
OK
Hehe
Thanks
I Agree
Nice
On my Way
OK, Let me get back to you later

vansmack said:
Tap reply to a text or email, instead of speaking, swipe up.
Yes
No
OK
Hehe
Thanks
I Agree
Nice
On my Way
OK, Let me get back to you later
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Thanks ! I just didn't realize that this feature was already available. I withdraw 50% of the criticisms Now I just need to find a way to add my own responses (edit: I think I just read that this feature will be available in the upcoming Android L).

Related

Tasker

Just discovered Tasker, I have been using Locale since first getting my G1, but had loads of issues with profiles not working correctly etc but found this;
http://tasker.dinglisch.net/
Its not as userfriendly as locale but is much more powerful and customisable and have to say so far so good, would recommend to anyone looking for an alternative to Locale!
though I must say some of these settings I would like to see native to android, especially auto profile settings.
setting profiles is above tasker in usability and below locale in price meaning it's just right for me.
march83 said:
setting profiles is above tasker in usability and below locale in price meaning it's just right for me.
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I thought that too until I read a review that I can't link yet due to being new and tried Tasker myself. I much prefer it over the other two.
Question is, have you figured out any trick or neat things to do with programs like this minus the typical Wifi On/Off stuff?
I have set up a page of widgets that change the wallaper!!..i think its cool, so with one click I can change the wallaper. Another is having GPS come on when maps is opened and switched off when maps is closed, or wifi switching on when opening internet and switch off when closing.
there are so many possibilities, could spend hours configuring timed widgets or normal widgets, various profiles. Yes the leaning curve is a little longer then other apps but its just hands down the best profile/settings manager
Bumping this thread just to let everyone know one of the BEST apps in for the Android platform at the moment. TASKER is excellent. I hope Google learns of this and buys the program, hires the programmer, and builds this into Android as a sort of "Advanced Utility" for everyone.
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Bumping this thread just to let everyone know one of the BEST apps in for the Android platform at the moment. TASKER is excellent. I hope Google learns of this and buys the program, hires the programmer, and builds this into Android as a sort of "Advanced Utility" for everyone.
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Bad idea....this probably means we need to pay for it again
I myself just added in a new profile to for an auto responder to anyone who sms/call me when my hp is facing down. Good for when you want to have some peace (busy or sleeping) but yet wish to let other know you will get back to them later
So awesome, my gf also want me to pay for her one

No 3rd party live tiles :(

So, unfortunately, it looks as if live tiles for 3rd party apps are too difficult and expensive
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=tho...ons-and-live-tiles-anywhere-in-the-cloud&5669
It's a pity, this was the one of the things that have made me consider a WP7 - I guess I'll just have to go to Android...
That isn't good for either the customer or 3rd party developers.
Hopefully M$ will change how the live tiles work as otherwise they will loose a big selling feature.
I'm not repeating myself... so look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8768892&postcount=31
I think the statement in quoted from iridium21 link is not exactly correct. There is scheduled notifications type, that can update Live Tiles from local resources without the requirement of web service. It is a matter of dev implementation, not a WP7 flaw.
Edit: After some investigation I've discovered that actually Microsoft does not allow using local resource for changing the Tile through a tile schedule. So it’s true: no live tiles without web service.
To confirm , even official apps don't have live tiles. http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/...&utm_campaign=Feed:+pocketnow+(pocketnow.com)
Without the live tiles, the whole point of WM7 is lost, in my opinion.
I was considering a Dell Venue Pro, but I think it's going to be a HTC Desire HD now...
I believe that this will come in a future update.
Hopefully I'm right.
I don't get it. Push notifications require server infrastructure. It was known from the moment Apple introduced them. The server has to know where to push what. This is also not news. It doesn't need to know any more details about you than needed to notify Microsoft servers to push it to your device, which is nothing personal, just your PN channel ID (token, or whatever it's called). If you want to get personalized data about, say, weather, you do have to store your preferences on the server. This is not a "security issue" in any way. Most importantly, this is not news. Why everybody is so upset about it now is beyond me.
iridium21 said:
So, unfortunately, it looks as if live tiles for 3rd party apps are too difficult and expensive
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=tho...ons-and-live-tiles-anywhere-in-the-cloud&5669
It's a pity, this was the one of the things that have made me consider a WP7 - I guess I'll just have to go to Android...
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That's too funny when a member previously posted it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=815463 he was called a troll, and android fan boy
iridium21 said:
So, unfortunately, it looks as if live tiles for 3rd party apps are too difficult and expensive
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=tho...ons-and-live-tiles-anywhere-in-the-cloud&5669
It's a pity, this was the one of the things that have made me consider a WP7 - I guess I'll just have to go to Android...
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they are not difficult, but need server infrastructure. But just step back and think about it. The services from which you need notifications are cloud based services. They already have the foundations for infrastructure. Now they need to add support for push notifications. They will do it. but will take time. it will be difficult for simple stand alone apps.. but which simple stand alone app you think needs notifications?
Android is already on its way to become an OS that needs regular resets to kill services that pile up in the background. (Remember Windows Mobile) Android does not kill an app until its RAM is full. All new phones have 512 MB RAM. it takes quite a few programs to reach a point when Android starts killing services. Till then, it takes a huge toll on battery.
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Android is already on its way to become an OS that needs regular resets to kill services that pile up in the background. (Remember Windows Mobile) Android does not kill an app until its RAM is full. All new phones have 512 MB RAM. it takes quite a few programs to reach a point when Android starts killing services. Till then, it takes a huge toll on battery.
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No truth to any of that. But lets stay on topic though.
Push notifications are a better way for interacting with web services in terms of preserving battery than having a bunch of services that continuously poll servers in background. I think it's hard to argue otherwise. However, push notifications aren't a substitute for multitasking in general, or even local notifications. They are a substitute for one specific use case - alerting users when certain events happen outside the phone.
My question remains, however - why is everybody anxious about it now? What exactly happened between MIX, when all of this became public knowledge, and now?
arkavat said:
they are not difficult, but need server infrastructure. But just step back and think about it. The services from which you need notifications are cloud based services. They already have the foundations for infrastructure. Now they need to add support for push notifications. They will do it. but will take time. it will be difficult for simple stand alone apps.. but which simple stand alone app you think needs notifications?
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I guess the whole point is that standalone apps don't need push notifications but have to rely on them simply to update homescreen tiles, which is an obvious overkill. I have a couple of apps that use badge notifications on the iPhone currently. One is a Google RSS reader, another is the Read It Later app. They both connect to web services, it's very useful that they show information about unread items on the home screen, but none of them really needs their own server infrastructure. Well, they could use it, but don't have to.
I hear bad things about the battery life of WP7 phones... apparently the lack of multitaskung doesn't help at all... Android still provides better battery life, despite that lots of apps can poll and update widgets in the background.
Don't trust the marketing blabla. WP7 will only be a static grid of icons, just like iOS. The only OS that REALLY is "live" is Android.
crow26 said:
WP7 will only be a static grid of icons, just like iOS.
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That's simply wrong. WP7 still supports live tiles updatable through push notification, iOS - not. Still, Android would remain most feature rich platform with all advantages and disadvantages that comes with that.
The phone can also poll for updates on a scheduled basis (every hour, day, week, or month). They don't have to be push. This will work well for things like weather updates where you don't need instaneous info anyways.
martoto said:
That's simply wrong. WP7 still supports live tiles updatable through push notification, iOS - not. Still, Android would remain most feature rich platform with all advantages and disadvantages that comes with that.
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I would ignore him. Mods already closed his other thread bashing WP7 and talking about how amazing Android is. It's clear he has an agenda and nothing of actual importance to say.
Live tile from weatherbug
http://www.wpcentral.com/weatherbug...feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+wmexperts+(wpcentral)
Don't know if its Live like MS tiles though.
Push notifications equals bubbles like the iPhone.
iridium21 said:
So, unfortunately, it looks as if live tiles for 3rd party apps are too difficult and expensive
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=tho...ons-and-live-tiles-anywhere-in-the-cloud&5669
It's a pity, this was the one of the things that have made me consider a WP7 - I guess I'll just have to go to Android...
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I think Microsoft need to make a web service available (perhaps through their Bing domain) that will allow developers to send their notifications to it, and then it could push those notifications onto the phone. Most developers will not have the budget to run their own webservices for notifications.
martoto said:
That's simply wrong. WP7 still supports live tiles updatable through push notification, iOS - not. Still, Android would remain most feature rich platform with all advantages and disadvantages that comes with that.
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READ the first post cause you didn't understand anything.

Multitasking on wp7

Have a look at this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jipqNtc_PPU&feature=player_embedded
Our own developer Jaxbot is up to his tricks again, and this time, it's paid off: Finder of a hack that brought instant resuming to Windows Phone 7, he has been developing a full fast app switching/multitasking solution for Windows Phone 7.
Shown in the video above, the preview of the application is triggered by pressing the half shutter button (pressing the camera button halfway, not to the point where the camera would launch), and allows the user to jump between desired applications. The applications run in the background to a degree, as shown with the timer, and no time is required to bring the applications back from their background state. It's all very technical, but rest assure that he will be sharing some more details in the future.
Keep in mind the application is a preview-the interface and how it functions may very well change before release, and no release date is available. But if you're interested in having it on your device, share some thoughts about how you think it should look, function, etc, in the comments below.
Without further ado, watch the video above for a demonstration of fast app switching on Windows Phone 7.
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Source
Yeah, checked the article out yesterday. Hopefully he'll be releasing something to everyone soon. It's the one thing I'm dying without No third party alarms (as the one MS provides kind of blows) and all this resuming nonsense is becoming slightly annoying.
That looks pretty slick! Would love to see this one in the wild soon, now if I could only get Pandora I would be set.
kwill said:
Yeah, checked the article out yesterday. Hopefully he'll be releasing something to everyone soon. It's the one thing I'm dying without No third party alarms (as the one MS provides kind of blows) and all this resuming nonsense is becoming slightly annoying.
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Its still work in progress, there are limitations... people work as hard as they can to overcome these limitations and make it work for all devices.
Currently I believe its not possible to automatically find the titles of the running apps, so they are manually added (hardcoded) however they can find the paths to the files... so the remaining thing is getting access to the files in these paths to extract the title and tile image.
However what you see really works, its real and should work with every app once this is accomplished.
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Its still work in progress, there are limitations... people work as hard as they can to overcome these limitations and make it work for all devices.
Currently I believe its not possible to automatically find the titles of the running apps, so they are manually added (hardcoded) however they can find the paths to the files... so the remaining thing is getting access to the files in these paths to extract the title and tile image.
However what you see really works, its real and should work with every app once this is accomplished.
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Thanks a lot for the insight on the operation and the obstacles they have to overcome. I'll be monitoring for any progress or assistance I can provide. Although, I'm sure my non-expert help won't be of much help.
kwill said:
Thanks a lot for the insight on the operation and the obstacles they have to overcome. I'll be monitoring for any progress or assistance I can provide. Although, I'm sure my non-expert help won't be of much help.
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you can monitor here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1006331
and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021135
btw I have nothing to do with the developments, I was just excited by the news and kept contact with Jaxbot who made this app/video with the code wrapper provided by fiinix
Looks great! I like the idea of a half shutter press. Very elegant solution.
Want that app!
Is this app on the video released?????? I can't find any link to download, although it was introduces about 2 years

Questions about development for iOS + Huawei Watch

Hi all,
I just bought my Huawei Watch and noticed it's quite limited when paired with an iPhone - most notably when it comes to apps (presumably due to Apple's policies). The internet seems quite scarce when it comes to development resources related to iPhone + Android Wear so I was wondering if someone can point me in the right direction. Most notably, I'd like to know:
Would it be possible to create an iOS app and an Android Wear app (installed manually via adb) and have them communicate with each other in some way?
Assuming the previous is possible, what are the limits of this approach, i.e. is there anything that wouldn't be possible in this kind of Android Wear app that's possible when paired with Android?
How difficult would it be to produce an Android Wear app that would "trick" the iPhone into thinking it's an Apple Watch, in a way which would make existing Apple Watch apps work with it?
Note: I'm fully aware that these things, even if possible, wouldn't be able to reach the Apple app store - I'm OK with that, I'd only be doing this for personal use.
Any help / links pointing in the right direction regarding the specifics of Android Wear <-> iPhone apps are more than welcome.
If it were that easy it would have been done already. Just get an Android phone or get an iWatch.
If your jailbroke, I think there are some apps like that that give you additional functionality.
fstanis said:
Hi all,
I just bought my Huawei Watch and noticed it's quite limited when paired with an iPhone - most notably when it comes to apps (presumably due to Apple's policies). The internet seems quite scarce when it comes to development resources related to iPhone + Android Wear so I was wondering if someone can point me in the right direction. Most notably, I'd like to know:
Would it be possible to create an iOS app and an Android Wear app (installed manually via adb) and have them communicate with each other in some way?
Assuming the previous is possible, what are the limits of this approach, i.e. is there anything that wouldn't be possible in this kind of Android Wear app that's possible when paired with Android?
How difficult would it be to produce an Android Wear app that would "trick" the iPhone into thinking it's an Apple Watch, in a way which would make existing Apple Watch apps work with it?
Note: I'm fully aware that these things, even if possible, wouldn't be able to reach the Apple app store - I'm OK with that, I'd only be doing this for personal use.
Any help / links pointing in the right direction regarding the specifics of Android Wear <-> iPhone apps are more than welcome.
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1. Possible but no one would take that on. This is generally a non-iPhone forum.
2. See #1
3. Nearly impossible. You would need an emulator on the watch to make the watch think it's an Apple Watch so it would run the Apple Apps. And if someone did do this it would be so god awfully slow it wouldn't be worth it.
I hate to say it but... Get an Android phone or an Apple watch for maximum usability.
I myself am an Android fan Get your self a Nexus 6P or the Nexus 5X.
Just to clarify - I'm not looking for an existing solution (though I'd be fine with it if one exists), but I'm looking to work on one myself in my spare time and am looking for some resources to get started.
I'm aware this forum is mostly Android-related, but there are definitely iOS-related topics as well (in retrospect, I probably shouldn't have posted in this forum - I expected the question might have some hwatch-specific to it - so maybe it should be moved to Android Wear Software and Hacking General?)
Ahhh... I see ok. I get you!
I dont know of any resources that would be of any benefit to you.
Sorry but good luck as well!

Accessibility

Hello,
I am a french blind and use a Razer Phone, not for gaming but for listening classic music. I am very disappointed because accessibility mode is pitiful. Is there some people who use accessibility mode and what do you think about it?
The gesture of shortcuts don’t permit a complete reading and after a come back to Razer support, the device changed for a little better but since Oreo the reading is disastrous.
Do you known some blind people who use Razer phone?
Thank you,
Best regards
André
verandre said:
Hello,
I am a french blind and use a Razer Phone, not for gaming but for listening classic music. I am very disappointed because accessibility mode is pitiful. Is there some people who use accessibility mode and what do you think about it?
The gesture of shortcuts don’t permit a complete reading and after a come back to Razer support, the device changed for a little better but since Oreo the reading is disastrous.
Do you known some blind people who use Razer phone?
Thank you,
Best regards
André
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Hey André!
As far as I am aware the Razer phone is mostly stock so any and all accessibility features it comes with are made by google android. I don't believe Razer have added any of their own or removed any from the android builds.
The only phone manufacture that I am aware of which includes any additional accessibility options is Samsung..
I must admit that I am curious as to why you chose the Razer phone as one of it's only standout features over other, better or more suitable, phones is it's 144 hertz screen which I'd image isn't of much use to you.
Sorry to sound a little blunt or be a downer but the impression I get from Razer is that they can barely make a phone for fully able bodies, there are plenty of hardware and software issues so I'd be very surprised if they intend to improve the accessibility of the Razer phone.
I've tried to format this in the hopes that screen readers or translation programs will be able to read it correctly.
Sorry if it's not perfect!
Azure Wren.
verandre said:
Hello,
I am a french blind and use a Razer Phone, not for gaming but for listening classic music. I am very disappointed because accessibility mode is pitiful. Is there some people who use accessibility mode and what do you think about it?
The gesture of shortcuts don’t permit a complete reading and after a come back to Razer support, the device changed for a little better but since Oreo the reading is disastrous.
Do you known some blind people who use Razer phone?
Thank you,
Best regards
André
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Hi andre.
I am visually impaired. Legally blind but not fully.
I use magnification a lot and i use a navigation bar button to activate the feature.
May you please explain me your needs and what accessibility features you uae?
As mentioned above, the razer phone has a moatly stock android version so "theoretically" there should not be any problem with that. Please respond. I would be glad to help.
Hi,
Thank you for your help proposal about the accessibility feature.
I use the syntesis Talk Back to discover what is displayed on the screen. Theoretically, the accessibility function is native in the Androïd system and should be able to work like all the features built into this system but alas! (three times alas!) There is a malfunction with the Razer phone. To make speech synthesis speak, the blind user uses shortcut gestures.
At first use, the two-finger swipe gesture from top to bottom or from bottom to top permiting to scroll text was inoperative and caused the opening of one unknown link. After a return to the support of Razer Society, his malfunction was corrected. Since the installation of Oreo, the statement of a word or a text is interrupted as a result of a crackle.
Only playback triggered from the accessibility button at the bottom and at the far right of the screen is operational, but other shortcut gestures allowing to trigger playback see their action interrupted by a crackling sound.
Through my email, I hope to find one or two blind users to share their experience with Talk Back and Razer phone voice synthesis. It will be a great pleasure that I will accept the help of curious users who would like to test the accessibility function and Talk Back to know their experience and especially that they confirm playback malfunction when it is triggered off by either shorthand gestures or the general context menu.
I thank you for your help and, perhaps not to disturb the forum, we could exchange directly unless the subject can be developed for the good of all.
In a previous email I declared that I have chosen the Razer phone for these two speakers and also for the system which does not have an underlay other than the android system. My contacts with the support staff are very good but, I think their superiors are not up to it.
I am counting on you since you propose it to me.
To simplify the test, I suggest that once the accessibility function and Talk Back are enabled to perform that you specify the result of shortcuts in the board in the end of my text.
Sorry, I had done a board but I can not join a link because I am a new user of the forum. If you want to help me, I can send the board in a private mail. You can write me at [email protected].
I thank you very much for your help and for the interest you have in the difficulties encountered by a person with a disability.
Best regard.

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