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thinking of trading my galaxy s3 for a galaxy nexus?

Should i ? Or just keep the s3?
spec wise i would keep the s3 since its more newer than the nexus
I really love flashing roms which the nexus has lots of..
But i did buy my s3 1 month ago so its literally brand new if i do
A trade i dont wanna be waisting my money that i used to get it
So idk should i do a trade??
Any ideas/opinions is greatly appreciated
-thanks

LOL! You sound like a woman.

That would be downgrading. The nexus device is nice but its also dated now. Since you have already got the newest and fastest device on the market, why not just keep it?
The nexus doest grab my attention like the S3 does. The S3 has more features, screen space and ram. But until you try one side by side, you be the judge. Good luck with your choice.

bighulk666 said:
LOL! You sound like a woman.
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Lol & you sound like a retard.. its just a simple yes or no question
Have nothing to say regarding the topic, dont like my post then simply
Ignore it and move on

1SiK1500 said:
That would be downgrading. The nexus device is nice but its also dated now. Since you have already got the newest and fastest device on the market, why not just keep it?
The nexus doest grab my attention like the S3 does. The S3 has more features, screen space and ram. But until you try one side by side, you be the judge. Good luck with your choice.
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Thankyou for your opinion, thats whats making me stuck in the middle.. like you said it is downgrading

This situation was the opposite for me. My previous phone was the Galaxy Nexus. I still have both and comparing side by side, I am happier with the GS3. I also understand that it's kinda "slow" here in terms of development for the GS3 compared to the nexus, but there are several awesome, stable roms from which to choose. Not to mention that it's still early in game and development will definitely kick off in the near future.

Infamous_Cheez said:
This situation was the opposite for me. My previous phone was the Galaxy Nexus. I still have both and comparing side by side, I am happier with the GS3. I also understand that it's kinda "slow" here in terms of development for the GS3 compared to the nexus, but there are several awesome, stable roms from which to choose. Not to mention that it's still early in game and development will definitely kick off in the near future.
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Agree the development for the u.s varient is slow but then again it is still early i dont want to regret it
Later on if i do the trade, maybe i should just stick with the s3.. it is newer better specs bigger screen etc..

I do usually adapt to the lastest and greatest tech and jump around. I see this device lasting for quite some time. I know other such as HTC will make a run for top. But this is my first Samsung device and i am more than pleased. I did manage to drop and crack my screen the day before my otterbox came in. Once it is replaced ill be a happy camper.
Another topic. Rooting the phone. Ive flashed so many roms on my last few phones that I feel compelled to NOT root the S3. The device works flawlessly and i dont want any unstable crashes or lags.
With the updated launchers working so well these days, i can fully customize my phone with out having to root it. Once Jellybean hits there will be nothing better for a while.
Coming from a rooted device, i truely see no need to root. I dont need backups if im not screwing with it. Aside from wifi tethering (which i have) its not required for me.

marcviado said:
Should i ? Or just keep the s3?
spec wise i would keep the s3 since its more newer than the nexus
I really love flashing roms which the nexus has lots of..
But i did buy my s3 1 month ago so its literally brand new if i do
A trade i dont wanna be waisting my money that i used to get it
So idk should i do a trade??
Any ideas/opinions is greatly appreciated
-thanks
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nooo don't do it!! my buddy has a galaxy nexus and he's always complaining about data speeds, nexus is 21mb while s3 is 42mb modem.. also his has jelly bean but mine is still much snappier and faster.. better camera too, less ram.. smaller screen.. i can go on and on.
SGS3>Galaxy Nexus. Case closed.

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Coming from a rooted device, i truely see no need to root. I dont need backups if im not screwing with it. Aside from wifi tethering (which i have) its not required for me.
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After reading your comment I was compelled to check and see how many of my apps require root. Currently only 3 of them do lol. The main reason I rooted my phone was because I did not like the green framework of stock....ICS is beautiful! I won't lie though, it's kind of second nature for me to immediately root even if unnecessary.
Crisisx1 said:
nooo don't do it!! my buddy has a galaxy nexus and he's always complaining about data speeds, nexus is 21mb while s3 is 42mb modem.. also his has jelly bean but mine is still much snappier and faster.. better camera too, less ram.. smaller screen.. i can go on and on.
SGS3>Galaxy Nexus. Case closed.
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Data speeds are subjective. Even though the GS3 is capable of 42mbps I have never even come close to to that; not even the 21mbps that the nexus tops off at. All your other points are solid though.

Infamous_Cheez said:
After reading your comment I was compelled to check and see how many of my apps require root. Currently only 3 of them do lol. The main reason I rooted my phone was because I did not like the green framework of stock....ICS is beautiful! I won't lie though, it's kind of second nature for me to immediately root even if unnecessary.
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Agreed. But runner a nice Apex Or Nova Launcher has changed from what it used to be. Besides i have insurance and a warranty. When i had my sensation, i flashed so many unstable roms, RILs, Radios, That i didnt know if my phone would every fully function again. I dont want to deal with that. I support the Dev community %100. To each their own!

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After reading your comment I was compelled to check and see how many of my apps require root. Currently only 3 of them do lol. The main reason I rooted my phone was because I did not like the green framework of stock....ICS is beautiful! I won't lie though, it's kind of second nature for me to immediately root even if unnecessary.
Data speeds are subjective. Even though the GS3 is capable of 42mbps I have never even come close to to that; not even the 21mbps that the nexus tops off at. All your other points are solid though.
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^ very true, but i doubt i would get these kind of speeds on a galaxy nexus... 26 mb.

I've had 3 galaxy nexus pass through my hands. don't do it
Keep the s3
Development is really picking up
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^ very true, but i doubt i would get these kind of speeds on a galaxy nexus... 26 mb.
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Wow! Those are impressive! The fastest I have ever gotten was 12mbps....

the main reason why i'd want to root is to just restore my apps and games with the saved settings and data. anyone else root for that reason, to restore titanium backup data?

Cobra281 said:
the main reason why i'd want to root is to just restore my apps and games with the saved settings and data. anyone else root for that reason, to restore titanium backup data?
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+1
...and this is how my crackflashing habit began. lol

Cobra281 said:
the main reason why i'd want to root is to just restore my apps and games with the saved settings and data. anyone else root for that reason, to restore titanium backup data?
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That's mainly why I rooted. I am on stock ROM, just rooted for back ups, plus I needed wifi tethering.

pytyper483 said:
That's mainly why I rooted. I am on stock ROM, just rooted for back ups, plus I needed wifi tethering.
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hah, you just reminded that i also need to root to use the sixaxis controller. playing ps1 games with this much power(a lot more than my old G2) is going to be sweeeeeet

Guys.. what are your thoughts on maybe an unlocked at&t galaxy note or an international one x
I posted my phone on cl to see what offers i get i did get alot of galaxy nexus but i decieded to keep
My s3 over that.. now i got galaxy note and htc one x offers

marcviado said:
Guys.. what are your thoughts on maybe an unlocked at&t galaxy note or an international one x
I posted my phone on cl to see what offers i get i did get alot of galaxy nexus but i decieded to keep
My s3 over that.. now i got galaxy note and htc one x offers
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the ONE X QUAD CORE is coming to t-mobile, DO NOT trade it for a international version (i had one, 2g makes u wanna cry, esp when you have to find a special sim to use it) . Also the NOTE does not work perfectly (if atnt) so don't bother with that either. Just wait a bit..

6 months to achieve root?

Hey all. I am looking to upgrade to the Note 4. I have used my Note 3 T- mobile version on AT&T for the past year which had an unlocked bootloader so it got root and custom recovery almost right away. Did it really take 6 months to just get root on the ATT version of the Note 3? And if so, what are the chances it will take that long again?
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drmacrofish said:
Hey all. I am looking to upgrade to the Note 4. I have used my Note 3 T- mobile version on AT&T for the past year which had an unlocked bootloader so it got root and custom recovery almost right away. Did it really take 6 months to just get root on the ATT version of the Note 3? And if so, what are the chances it will take that long again?
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No one will work on it. Even with a bounty no one really seemed to care about getting root on the N3, we all just gave up hope when suddenly GeoHot swooped in with towelroot totally surprising everyone, but this was months later. There are still no custom ROMs and with safestrap development going away it just seems there is little incentive to root, especially when it's possible we may get the L upgrade in the spring.
But we won't know until the phones are released. Maybe there is a simple exploit and we get lucky, maybe not and we wait months or forever and it never gets rooted.

Oh wow. I didn't realize the ATT version didn't get root till towelroot. Man, that was forever. I am debating getting the Note 4 on T mobile, but to get it right away may be a pain, plus I don't think I will be able to get the 200$ off from Samsung if I go that route. I kinda want to just buy the phone outright and 200$ off is pretty nice.
Maybe I will just go with the ATT version and see how it goes and if development sucks and I really want to root or run custom ROMS I could always sell it in the future and get a T mobile one later....
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drmacrofish said:
Oh wow. I didn't realize the ATT version didn't get root till towelroot. Man, that was forever. I am debating getting the Note 4 on T mobile, but to get it right away may be a pain, plus I don't think I will be able to get the 200$ off from Samsung if I go that route. I kinda want to just buy the phone outright and 200$ off is pretty nice.
Maybe I will just go with the ATT version and see how it goes and if development sucks and I really want to root or run custom ROMS I could always sell it in the future and get a T mobile one later....
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I believe it did have Root when it was first released. But the update to KK fixed that root exploit, that's when we waited 5 or so months before towelroot came out. So the smart guys didn't update to KK, of course I was one of the stupid ones who did upgrade and I remember painfully waiting for root. Most of us had given up and assumed it would never happen, then literally one day GeoHot released towelroot with no warning at all.
I had the Tmobile one preordered, but I am pretty sure I'm going to cancel it and go with the ATT one. I'm reading here and there of reception and LTE issues with the Tmobile one on the Note 3 and really don't want to deal with that as my phone actually working is much more important than being rooted. I'll miss root greatly, but if I want to stay with ATT I guess that's the price I pay. And maybe we get lucky and a root pops up. Otherwise the only things I'm missing are titanium, and xposed which I mainly use for the multi windows module. I don't bother flashing custom ROM's so don't really care about that.

It did have root at launch and even with the first update. However for those who took the KK update, they were stuck until towelroot.

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I believe it did have Root when it was first released. But the update to KK fixed that root exploit, that's when we waited 5 or so months before towelroot came out. So the smart guys didn't update to KK, of course I was one of the stupid ones who did upgrade and I remember painfully waiting for root. Most of us had given up and assumed it would never happen, then literally one day GeoHot released towelroot with no warning at all.
I had the Tmobile one preordered, but I am pretty sure I'm going to cancel it and go with the ATT one. I'm reading here and there of reception and LTE issues with the Tmobile one on the Note 3 and really don't want to deal with that as my phone actually working is much more important than being rooted. I'll miss root greatly, but if I want to stay with ATT I guess that's the price I pay. And maybe we get lucky and a root pops up. Otherwise the only things I'm missing are titanium, and xposed which I mainly use for the multi windows module. I don't bother flashing custom ROM's so don't really care about that.
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Ok, that makes more sense. That is kinda what I remember now. Had forgotten all that and didn't pay too much attention cause I had the T mobile version. That was with that Root De La Vega or whatever.
Yeah, I am pretty sure I am gonna go with AT&T version at least at first. I can do it through Best Buy that way and get the 200$ instant credit with turning in a phone. Then on top of that hopefully sell my Note 3 and come out pretty good. At least that is the current idea. Will see for sure. At least now I know I don't want the iPhone 6+ after seeing the Note 4 in person.
As to reception issues, yeah, I don't think my Note 3 T mobile version ever got quit as good a signal or data speeds as the ATT note 3 does on AT&T network, which makes sense really. You don't have the ATT modem installed.
I initially had the Note 3 ATT phone too, and then the t mobile one which I got off ebay. I had both at the same time and did do some initial testing. The db signal was close, but not quite as good as the ATT version one was. That I do recall for sure. Not that the t mobile one was horrible, but just not as good. I am not sure about the data speeds however. I guess if you really want to be sure the phone is working the best it can, then better to use the one designed for the network you will use it on.
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The way I figure it is the Tmobile version is almost always cheaper on swappa/ebay. So if I really get sick of the locked bootloader, and also read reports on XDA that there are no reception issues I can always sell my ATT Note 4 and pick up a Tmobile one. Samsung phones seem to drop a bit in value at that 2-3 month mark, that plus the $200 rebate will mean I will prob make money off such a trade. That's the worst case scenario, realistically I'll probably just adjust to no root and keep the ATT one.

Sad panda here :(

This is horrible not having root this long. It's a completely new and raw feeling. Every android phone I've ever had had got root the same day I picked it up. The og DROID was a development veteran. The Droid X, eh.. The galaxy nexus speaks for itself. The note 2 had great development as did my note 3. Then I pick up a AT&T note 4 thinking I had nothing to worry about as this is my first AT&T phone. A month later and even though this phone is awesome, its horrible not having root. I don't blame anyone but AT&T. What's a**holes. I LONG for Viper Audio & Xposed...

I feel your pain...which is exactly why I'm chomping at the bit for my Nexus 6 to arrive . I'll probably carry them both, as I think the camera is better in the Note 4..........but I want my Xposed! I gotta save those snapchats! LOL

treytreytaylor said:
This is horrible not having root this long. It's a completely new and raw feeling. Every android phone I've ever had had got root the same day I picked it up. The og DROID was a development veteran. The Droid X, eh.. The galaxy nexus speaks for itself. The note 2 had great development as did my note 3. Then I pick up a AT&T note 4 thinking I had nothing to worry about as this is my first AT&T phone. A month later and even though this phone is awesome, its horrible not having root. I don't blame anyone but AT&T. What's a**holes. I LONG for Viper Audio & Xposed...
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Hard to believe you didn't do your research.. AT&T has been requesting locked bootloaders from the OEMs since before the Note 3.
Sad to say this phone will probably not get cracked before Lollipop gets pushed down. After that, thenodds are probably even more unlikely. I don't think, (even though there is a long list of folks donating), that we have actually gotten confirmation that any devs are working on an exploit for this one.
If you just must have root, you'd be better off using the T-Mobile variant.

treytreytaylor said:
I don't blame anyone but AT&T. What's a**holes. I LONG for Viper Audio & Xposed...
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it sucks but its the price we pay for having a more secure device.

nyydynasty said:
it sucks but its the price we pay for having a more secure device.
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If I wanted a "more secure" device, I would have bought an iPhone. Not having root on the N4 is frustrating.

Sell the phone and get a T-Mobile... That's what I'm going to do if no root come out soon

flexfield said:
If I wanted a "more secure" device, I would have bought an iPhone. Not having root on the N4 is frustrating.
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That would make sense except the iPhone is actually less secure... Already has jailbreak...
The fact is that AT&T and Verizon want non rootable phones. Period. And that isn't likely to change.
People that 'need' root need to make 100% sure a phone is rooted before they buy it. It is going to be more and more unlikely that phones with locked boot loaders will be rooted.
If you buy a phone that doesn't have root, then don't complain.

JasonJoel said:
People that 'need' root need to make 100% sure a phone is rooted before they buy it. It is going to be more and more unlikely that phones with locked boot loaders will be rooted.
If you buy a phone that doesn't have root, then don't complain.
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Exactly, this has been said enough, and most people have happily moved on to non root apps.

Honestly I can't believe I didn't do the research either. I should have known better smh. might have been a little to excited to snatch one up on my own line. But I'll definitely be selling it for a SM-N910T as soon as I can. What the f*ck AT&T.

Meh. You should have known before you bought it.

I am having a hard time believing all of this as well. I'm actually putting off my upgrade because of it. Sitting here with my year-old Note 3 that I rooted 2 hours after I bought it, kinda thinking about going another direction, I just really like my current plan
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How long did it take for the ATT note 3 to get rooted?

Blame Samsung
The bottom line is SAMSUNG makes the phone, not ATT. They should stop being a bunch of ******* and just say our phone comes with an unlocked bootloader. PERIOD. What are they going to do? Not carry the hottest device out there? I doubt it

I might be in the minority but to me, for the first time ever since I started using Android, I don't feel like root is necessary. Sure, it would be nice to have Xposed and TiBu, but I seem to manage fine with this phone.

redstar299 said:
The bottom line is SAMSUNG makes the phone, not ATT. They should stop being a bunch of ******* and just say our phone comes with an unlocked bootloader. PERIOD. What are they going to do? Not carry the hottest device out there? I doubt it
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And what business reason is there for Samsung to do that? As long as people are buying the phones, they won't bother.
If sales falter (people buying tmobile instead of the att version doesn't count) and people are vocal on why, then something may change... But I doubt it.

Nexus 6
Mistake!
I bought my nexus 6 3 week ago.. I noticed immediately that the phone is faster that my note buy that's about it because my note had way more features, better hardware and I miss all of that now....

redstar299 said:
The bottom line is SAMSUNG makes the phone, not ATT. They should stop being a bunch of ******* and just say our phone comes with an unlocked bootloader. PERIOD. What are they going to do? Not carry the hottest device out there? I doubt it
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Amen... just upgraded to Note 4 from Note 2, two weeks after my AT&T contract expired and got a note from AT&T that I could now unlock my phone... whoops for them, a bit too late. Patiently waiting for these phone manufacturers to stop bending over for the carriers and start insisting on unlocked devices right out of the factory.
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If you have chosen to buy an AT&T/Verizon phone then you're gonna have to live with it, buddy. That's why I kept my N3 and didn't rush for the N4. That's what I've always done. Once a phone (from those two carriers) comes out, I'd just wait and watch for a couple of months if it gets rooted. If not then sell the old one and add a little bit of money and buy me an unlocked one.
From my Allianced S5!

If you want root figure a way to do it yourself, otherwise just wait patiently.

I got over not having root after maybe 5 or 6 days. Ads suck but the Note performs better than my old rooted phone, and the camera is epic, I can live without root...

[Q] Might be getting a little obsessive...

This is my first android phone on verizon before this i had the iPhone 5 for 2 years and before that i was on sprint with the evo 3d which was rooted... i didn't know it was a mission to get verizon phones rooted. Now im checking the forums everyday like 3 or 4 times a day to see if anything new has come up for root. Im getting desperate lol. People that have had previous note devices on verizon, did it usually take this long?

Lol you sound just like me! Ive looked everywhere. And now just sticking to xda hopen for some good news! I had a s2 rooted then went to ip4 to ip5s both jb. now im back to android with n4. N4 is a bad ass just waiting for this root to make it even meaner! I feel your pain bud!

Don't count on this phone being rooted on Verizon. If it's that important, you may need to switch phones/carriers. It's unfortunate.

It'll be rooted, just have patience. People are SMART around here, and they'll figure it out. It's still a fantastic phone as it is.
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Rippley05 said:
Don't count on this phone being rooted on Verizon. If it's that important, you may need to switch phones/carriers. It's unfortunate.
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This
zipkicker said:
It'll be rooted, just have patience. People are SMART around here, and they'll figure it out. It's still a fantastic phone as it is.
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Not this
I don't see root on N4 with lollipop for awhile...

kimdoocheol said:
This
Not this
I don't see root on N4 with lollipop for awhile...
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Nice thing is, not a single person here can predict the future. Nobody knows for sure what'll happen.

mlin said:
Nice thing is, not a single person here can predict the future. Nobody knows for sure what'll happen.
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I don't doubt that the N4 will eventually have root.
I think the issues as stated is that CF needs an unlocked bootloader, which means either we get an unlocked bootloader (which I really doubt) or someone finds an alternative method. So yeah, nobody can predict the future, but this isn't like other phones like say on Tmob. There are more obstacles people with AT&T/VZW need to overcome. Saying otherwise at this point is very misleading to potential buyers and retail owners.

zipkicker said:
It'll be rooted, just have patience. People are SMART around here, and they'll figure it out. It's still a fantastic phone as it is.
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How patient are you? it might get root within a year maybe. want recovery and root buy a developer edition

I think the note 3 just got root this past summer, and it was released Sept 2013, so that would be 8-10 months after release.

Gareee said:
I think the note 3 just got root this past summer, and it was released Sept 2013, so that would be 8-10 months after release.
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From the what I recall, the Note 3 had root last year sometime. I remember this cause I was using one along with safestrap so that I could flash ROMS.

oneandroidnut said:
How patient are you? it might get root within a year maybe. want recovery and root buy a developer edition
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If only it were that easy. Unfortunately Samsung's DE program is a nightmare and they can't seem to keep them in stock. I would happily sell my phone today for $550 and order a DE for $700, but its not even an option.

mlin said:
If only it were that easy. Unfortunately Samsung's DE program is a nightmare and they can't seem to keep them in stock. I would happily sell my phone today for $550 and order a DE for $700, but its not even an option.
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they sell 20 at a time and then takes 3-4 weeks for 20 more. how they always have done it and how they always will

I had the g2 and I believe the boot on that one is still locked. They used this loki walk around thing.. any chande this can be done with the n4... anyone know about this?

mlin said:
Nice thing is, not a single person here can predict the future. Nobody knows for sure what'll happen.
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The best way to predict the future is to change it :3

oneandroidnut said:
they sell 20 at a time and then takes 3-4 weeks for 20 more. how they always have done it and how they always will
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Well if we've learned anything about Samsung this year its that they don't know how to properly plan their phone supplies. At this point I'll just wait for an M9 instead of dealing with Samsung's DE circus.

mlin said:
Well if we've learned anything about Samsung this year its that they don't know how to properly plan their phone supplies. At this point I'll just wait for an M9 instead of dealing with Samsung's DE circus.
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meh i will continue to rock note 4 and try out a nexus which is on the way to me!!!

oneandroidnut said:
meh i will continue to rock note 4 and try out a nexus which is on the way to me!!!
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easy for you to say...

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easy for you to say...
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whys that?

Developer Edition?

Any rumors about plans for a Note 7 DE?

I got the note 4 DE but sold it after a year cause I wanted to use the banking features and other stuff which even with root cloak it wouldn't work. I thought I would die without root as Ive had it on every phone ive ever had but its not so bad anymore. I just miss the customizations but its no big deal anymore.

I think the only benefits to root now are totally removing system apps and bloatware. Unless you're really into flashing or using a custom kernel, then it's not worth it.
You can remove ads with adguard, change your launcher to Nova and have it how you like, you can also block bloatware and system apps with certain apps as well.
While I do admit, for people that like to keep their phones for a long time, it's nice to be able to constantly update to the latest OS if you have a good community working on it, but I rarely keep phones past their end of update age. There was a time where I would refuse to buy a phone if it meant I couldn't root/flash a custom rom but I'm over that. Phones now have some great baked in features as is anyways, and it's worth it to keep them stock for me now. Just get anything that you know will be popular so it gets reliable updates.

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Any rumors about plans for a Note 7 DE?
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I believe that they have stopped doing developers editions. I remember they pulled like 70ish models down one day from the developers' edition section on their site and haven't put any more up since. Nobody really knows what they did with them or why they stopped.
I was planning on buying another Note 4 DE so I kept tabs on the amount that was in stock. I'm guessing they will never have another DE model. I hope I'm wrong though.

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yearn2burn said:
Any rumors about plans for a Note 7 DE?
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Samsung said there will be a Dev version. Just have no release date.

Press Buttons said:
Samsung said there will be a Dev version. Just have no release date.
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Where did they say that?

jal3223 said:
Where did they say that?
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It's A secret

Press Buttons said:
It's A secret
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I hope you're right, but I doubt it. Like I said before, they pulled like 70ish Developer's edition Note 4s off the shelf abruptly and haven't had one since. They also skipped the Note 5. I just can't see them jumping back in that boat. Hope I'm wrong though.

jal3223 said:
I hope you're right, but I doubt it. Like I said before, they pulled like 70ish Developer's edition Note 4s off the shelf abruptly and haven't had one since. They also skipped the Note 5. I just can't see them jumping back in that boat. Hope I'm wrong though.
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For some reason i can't upload a picture to show you.

Press Buttons said:
For some reason i can't upload a picture to show you.
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I think it is because you are a new user. PM it to me and I will post it for you.

Any more word on this?

don't get your hopes up guys, "press buttons" is just pressing your buttons.