Hello everybody.
So I was wondering, when CyanogenMod 12 comes out, will they still support all of the devices they have been supporting? Or at least, in specific, our device? I can't imagine why'd they drop support.
Also, I hear in the new Android version, the Linux 3.10 kernel is being used. As opposed to the current 3.4 kernel we are using. Does anybody know about any significant changes between the two?
This is very exciting if/when we get this on our device I personally will just wait on a CM or AOSP version of Android as stock never really does it for me.
I don't know, but the more I think about it, the more excited I get (also the more apprehensive I get since I'll have to upgrade my kernel sources).
I know I probably shouldn't bring this up, but I also can't wait to blow my friend's new iOS 8 update out of the water with CM12/L (Not like CM11 doesn't already do that )
Snepsts said:
Hello everybody.
So I was wondering, when CyanogenMod 12 comes out, will they still support all of the devices they have been supporting? Or at least, in specific, our device? I can't imagine why'd they drop support.
Also, I hear in the new Android version, the Linux 3.10 kernel is being used. As opposed to the current 3.4 kernel we are using. Does anybody know about any significant changes between the two?
This is very exciting if/when we get this on our device I personally will just wait on a CM or AOSP version of Android as stock never really does it for me.
I don't know, but the more I think about it, the more excited I get (also the more apprehensive I get since I'll have to upgrade my kernel sources).
I know I probably shouldn't bring this up, but I also can't wait to blow my friend's new iOS 8 update out of the water with CM12/L (Not like CM11 doesn't already do that )
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I'm so excited about this. It will be sooooooo cool. I need to learn to develop ROMs and stuff, because if developer support dies for this phone I would want to keep the development going.
Well then start now rjm....... Better now then never
2SHAYNEZ
rjmxtech said:
I'm so excited about this. It will be sooooooo cool. I need to learn to develop ROMs and stuff, because if developer support dies for this phone I would want to keep the development going.
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You'll have me doing the little bit I can for this device for the next 8-9 months I'm stuck with this thing
Don't worry about developing ROMs, all you really need to know is how to compile and maintain. I plan to attempt at some unofficial builds of a ROM or two once I can deem my kernel as done. But don't worry, the LG OGP is definitely booming with activity right now, and will probably only get better with the following months to come.
We already have:
Gummy
PAC
Beanstalk
CM11
AOKP
AICP
Vanir
and a pretty good range of stock ROMs.
Soon (and I mean within a month or so) I hope to add Carbon and Paranoid Android to this list, but we will have to see. I do not know how to compile unofficially or much about it, but it doesn't look extremely difficult. So my hopes are high.
Plus, as this device drops in price, we may get some more people to keep development for this device relevant. Although I did not see our device in the local AT&T store last time I was there...
We have a beautiful phone with the processing power to last as a quality device for another year at least. LG makes some pretty nice stuff.
Unfortunately, we will be seeing more and more of our users leave as the months drag on as this phone gains age
We'll have to see who lasts the longest with this phone as their primary device... lol.
I suspect we will reach our peek in ROMs soon a few months after Android L is up and running. Just my guess though.
Shayne has a good point though, now is definitely the time to start. So better hit the tutorials!
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You'll have me doing the little bit I can for this device for the next 8-9 months I'm stuck with this thing
Don't worry about developing ROMs, all you really need to know is how to compile and maintain. I plan to attempt at some unofficial builds of a ROM or two once I can deem my kernel as done. But don't worry, the LG OGP is definitely booming with activity right now, and will probably only get better with the following months to come.
We already have:
Gummy
PAC
Beanstalk
CM11
AOKP
AICP
Vanir
and a pretty good range of stock ROMs.
Soon (and I mean within a month or so) I hope to add Carbon and Paranoid Android to this list, but we will have to see. I do not know how to compile unofficially or much about it, but it doesn't look extremely difficult. So my hopes are high.
Plus, as this device drops in price, we may get some more people to keep development for this device relevant. Although I did not see our device in the local AT&T store last time I was there...
We have a beautiful phone with the processing power to last as a quality device for another year at least. LG makes some pretty nice stuff.
Unfortunately, we will be seeing more and more of our users leave as the months drag on as this phone gains age
We'll have to see who lasts the longest with this phone as their primary device... lol.
I suspect we will reach our peek in ROMs soon a few months after Android L is up and running. Just my guess though.
Shayne has a good point though, now is definitely the time to start. So better hit the tutorials!
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If you could keep Beanstalk going for our device if development stops I would greatly appreciate it. I'll try and help out too when I learn how in case development does stop.
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If you could keep Beanstalk going for our device if development stops I would greatly appreciate it. I'll try and help out too when I learn how in case development does stop.
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I have a feeling that we don't have to worry about Beanstalk
No it won't stop..... Aicp has seemed to come to a hault .. Maybe you should jump on that rmj..... Read read read and then read .... Then compile yo stuff
2SHAYNEZ
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No it won't stop..... Aicp has seemed to come to a hault .. Maybe you should jump on that rmj..... Read read read and then read .... Then compile yo stuff
2SHAYNEZ
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It seems as though a lot of ROMs by that particular dev get abandoned eventually... but that's none of my business.
Yes AICP would be a great one to start on, first thing is first though, rjm, get yourself on a Linux VM or a Linux computer. Also, I hope you have some decent specs or it'll be hell trying to do it.
For example, I have an AMD FX-6350, so I have 6 cores in my system. I can allocate 4 to my VM
And you'll want some RAM, too. Like 8 GB so if you're using a VM you can allocate 4 as well.
For the distro I suggest using Linux Mint 64-bit (has to be 64-bit).
And I really hope your host OS is 64-bit, because otherwise you are probably incapable of compiling ROMs.
Best of luck!
P.S: I downloaded Carbon sources today. We'll see how that goes.
Oh also be sure you have PLENTY of free space, those sources love hogging space. I just cleaned out my old VM and set up a new one with 200 GB of space allocated. Thank God for Terabyte HDDs
Staying on topic, the L/5.0 SDK was released today. Approx. two weeks until the official Nexus release, and hopefully not too long until we get a taste of that afterwards.
KitKat was great (it felt like the smoothest Android experience ever when I flashed my first KK ROM) but I'm ready for Lollipop!
Material design looks interesting, although I gotta say... the circle triangle square virtual buttons aren't the best design choice imo. Maybe it's to make switching from an iPhone to an Android easier for the iUsers that find the current system to difficult to understand :laugh: They sure like their shapes of rounded edge squares and circles.
I'm not kidding, actually. A friend of mine steals my phone all the time and she cannot figure out PIE to save her life...
shayneflashindaily said:
No it won't stop..... Aicp has seemed to come to a hault .. Maybe you should jump on that rmj..... Read read read and then read .... Then compile yo stuff
2SHAYNEZ
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I don't think I want to compile AICP. Beanstalk is the only ROM IMO that really would be a loss if development stopped. The features of Beanstalk outnumber those of other ROMs
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I don't think I want to compile AICP. Beanstalk is the only ROM IMO that really would be a loss if development stopped. The features of Beanstalk outnumber those of other ROMs
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What about compiling it for the sake of learning how to compile...?
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What about compiling it for the sake of learning how to compile...?
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Maybe
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I don't think I want to compile AICP. Beanstalk is the only ROM IMO that really would be a loss if development stopped. The features of Beanstalk outnumber those of other ROMs
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Is Beanstalk as stable as cm11. Does it have a RC or something similar to PAC or M11?
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Is Beanstalk as stable as cm11. Does it have a RC or something similar to PAC or M11?
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I'm pretty sure Beanstalk only releases stable updates. From what I remember there aren't any nightlies, as it sometimes is months before a new update is released. That is another reason why I like Beanstalk better than other ROMs.
I will be happy to see official LG update for Android Lollipop 5.x Waiting for updates!
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I will be happy to see official LG update for Android Lollipop 5.x Waiting for updates!
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Not much news from lg on updates yet:
http://www.androidauthority.com/which-phones-android-lollipop-540232/
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I don't think I want to compile AICP. Beanstalk is the only ROM IMO that really would be a loss if development stopped. The features of Beanstalk outnumber those of other ROMs
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Probably a sort of noobish question, but anyway many roms are cm-based (including beanstalk), and even aokp is cm enabled. How dependent are these roms on cm, basically meaning could they sustain themselves without cm continuing support too?
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Not much news from lg on updates yet:
http://www.androidauthority.com/which-phones-android-lollipop-540232/
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Probably a sort of noobish question, but anyway many roms are cm-based (including beanstalk), and even aokp is cm enabled. How dependent are these roms on cm, basically meaning could they sustain themselves without cm continuing support too?
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I think CM official support is close to vital for these ROMs, mainly for the kernel, but also because they update the device thingy you use to build ROMs I do believe.
I am 90% sure we will receive updates from CM though. They sure know how to take care of their devices.
Any custom ROM will do, if we are talking about testing the new Android L. What's bothering me is the support for F240x devices. If CM, Beanstalk, VANIR/COMMOTIO or AICP (the one I am using for a long period of time), will release an update, will there be a KERNEL or ROM that will work for the F240x?
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Any custom ROM will do, if we are talking about testing the new Android L. What's bothering me is the support for F240x devices. If CM, Beanstalk, VANIR/COMMOTIO or AICP (the one I am using for a long period of time), will release an update, will there be a KERNEL or ROM that will work for the F240x?
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I really hope it is for your sake. Luckily the dev that makes F240 ROMs for you guys seems to know what he's doing, and I'm sure he'll keep working for you. As long as e980 has support he can use that kernel and use it for F240.
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I really hope it is for your sake. Luckily the dev that makes F240 ROMs for you guys seems to know what he's doing, and I'm sure he'll keep working for you. As long as e980 has support he can use that kernel and use it for F240.
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Hopefully.
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Hi all,
I am Samsung Galaxy Nexus owner and I would like to run Android 4.4 KitKat on my Galaxy Nexus. But I am not a developer. From my understanding if we want a GOOD 4.4 build we need to port a 3.4 kernel and fix a lot a bug/small issues. This is an hard work and we need some good developer(s) on it.
14,000+ guys signed the petition. This is not a very effective strategy to get what we want. We should pay someone to work on our device: hard work requires motivation and a lot of time.
We should start a fund-raising campaign in order to pay a skilled developer to work full time.
10$ * 10,000 = 100,000$
20$ * 5000 = 100,000$
If we raise even a fraction of this amount... we can afford some man/hours.
What do you think? Is the porting feasible if we pay the right person(s)? Are you in?
(I am not a developer AND I will not start a fund-raising campaign.)
Let me get this straight. You want to start a bounty on getting 3.4 kernel and 4.4 kitkat on the gnex, but you don't want to personally be the one to start it? That's lazy man, and sounds to me like you want 4.4 at other people's expense. If you want it so bad then you should be the one to start it.
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That's lazy man, and sounds to me like you want 4.4 at other people's expense. If you want it so bad then you should be the one to start it.
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I think you misunderstand my statement. I am no one in this forum: it is unsafe if people start to give money to to a possible fund raising campaign that i will start (IMAO). I will be happy to contribute ($$) if anyone that can be trusted start it. The right person should be e.g. a long-life xda user, maybe a well-known GNex rom builder. I will be happy (discuss all the details, etc) to help this person as much as I can.
New update on OMAP-Tuna platform from 3.4 thread, guess we may have a 3.4 / an updated kernel for 4.4
Something like this was done for the HTC One (one of the versions) to motivate the devs to find a way to unlock the bootloader... They did it in record time. Hope this gains momentum as did the HTC One case. Yeah, I know, this is WAY more difficult than that, but it can be done so I hope to see the 3.4 kernel soon
Let's start a kickstarter campaign! Would need to source devs who can and are willing to fix the gpu glitches and other bugs....
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Let me get this straight. You want to start a bounty on getting 3.4 kernel and 4.4 kitkat on the gnex, but you don't want to personally be the one to start it? That's lazy man, and sounds to me like you want 4.4 at other people's expense. If you want it so bad then you should be the one to start it.
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Some folks just like it like that, he could kill a cow, butcher it make a ground beef patty, make his own buns, grow his own tomatoes, make his own cheese.... But i bet he rather stop by Burger King.
WHATCHOO TALKING BOUT WILLIS?
for kernel 4.4
look at this kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2423338
Uneducated here. What benefit does a 3.4 kernel serve for us? Are there new drivers for the OMAP that's needed for 4.4, or is it those 'man and mountain' situations?
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Uneducated here. What benefit does a 3.4 kernel serve for us? Are there new drivers for the OMAP that's needed for 4.4, or is it those 'man and mountain' situations?
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I actually don't think it's gonna benefit our device much. Heck, all 4.3 kernels still work on 4.4 provided they don't come with their own ramdisk. Even cm11 kernel source is almost unchanged from cm10.2.
Graphical glitches? All solved by now?
Random reboots? Solved in cm11.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
It would be useful...
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I actually don't think it's gonna benefit our device much. Heck, all 4.3 kernels still work on 4.4 provided they don't come with their own ramdisk. Even cm11 kernel source is almost unchanged from cm10.2.
It would be useful. There are some major improvements in memory, filesystem, and block-layer (read: SSD TRIM) stuff in post-3.0 kernels. Your device will be faster and use less memory.
I would argue though, that if someone's gong to tear into the 3.0.x-OMAP code and try to engineer a 3.4 kernel to work on the Galaxy Nexus hardware, it probably makes more sense to go 'all the way' and port those changes up into 3.10 or 3.12 (if 3.12 looks like it will be a 'longterm' release). There's no reason that Android won't run on a newer kernel. Android-ia (Intel's Android-on-x86 project) has Android working against newer kernels than Google does.
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akash3656 said:
I actually don't think it's gonna benefit our device much. Heck, all 4.3 kernels still work on 4.4 provided they don't come with their own ramdisk. Even cm11 kernel source is almost unchanged from cm10.2.
It would be useful. There are some major improvements in memory, filesystem, and block-layer (read: SSD TRIM) stuff in post-3.0 kernels. Your device will be faster and use less memory.
I would argue though, that if someone's gong to tear into the 3.0.x-OMAP code and try to engineer a 3.4 kernel to work on the Galaxy Nexus hardware, it probably makes more sense to go 'all the way' and port those changes up into 3.10 or 3.12 (if 3.12 looks like it will be a 'longterm' release). There's no reason that Android won't run on a newer kernel. Android-ia (Intel's Android-on-x86 project) has Android working against newer kernels than Google does.
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I don't know but some or most of the stuff you mention have been backported by current (or previous) kernel developers.
Well if anyone wants to do any >3.0 kernel, its up to them to see which newer version is the most viable version to jump to.
Having that said, I have no experience in making kernels or following the changes in Linux kernel religiously.
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So OGP community. I like ROMs. You like ROMs. We all like ROMs.
If you could have any ROM on this phone. What would it be? Why?
Is there a reason for somebody to build it for our device? Is it in Lollipop?
Any ROM at all?
I might take another ROM or two under my wing for weekly builds now that Lollipop is here. Especially since Carbon is taking it's good ol' time updtaing. :l
Happy flashing
As long the ROM supports F240x, I'll be good.
Any of the Bliss or Beanstalk ROMs. I would like to have TWRP work with the lollipop encryption if that is possible. That's not related to the ROMs though.
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Any of the Bliss or Beanstalk ROMs. I would like to have TWRP work with the lollipop encryption if that is possible. That's not related to the ROMs though.
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Bliss and Beanstalk are already have their own maintainers Hmmm Lollipop working with encryption... We'll have to look into that I suppose.
On all my devices i like slimrom roms. But on the e980 , nothing really strong on the latest slimrom.
i wish for a stable kitkat versions because every time when a new android version comes out, the rom developers run to make their rom with their latest android versions. i do understand that they take time to offer their rom with the latest android in order to compete each other but, the old bugs which might not be reported so often or getting ignored, wont get fixed and so it results to half fixed rom versions which the devs dont pay attention anymore bc they all want the latest stuff but plenty of bugs. so how can some of us suppose to profit from custom roms when the older androids arent finished ? that s the reason why some more ppl running back to stock roms which you are not able to custumize your settings and tweaks like no other...
that s my opinion, i hope you understand what i mean...
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i wish for a stable kitkat versions because every time when a new android version comes out, the rom developers run to make their rom with their latest android versions. i do understand that they take time to offer their rom with the latest android in order to compete each other but, the old bugs which might not be reported so often or getting ignored, wont get fixed and so it results to half fixed rom versions which the devs dont pay attention anymore bc they all want the latest stuff but plenty of bugs. so how can some of us suppose to profit from custom roms when the older androids arent finished ? that s the reason why some more ppl running back to stock roms which you are not able to custumize your settings and tweaks like no other...
that s my opinion, i hope you understand what i mean...
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I do! I agree, for the most part. But actually many ROM makers continue to support KitKat builds to finalize them for people like you, who prefer stability (Totally understandable). I'll build Carbon's final KitKat build when they're done and you can bet your butt that'll be stable!
I want to focus on Lollipop because there's going to be a whoooole year ahead of us on it, may as well start now I suppose
Sorry the ROM community overlooks you, I hope you are able to experience a stable custom Android experience soon
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I do! I agree, for the most part. But actually many ROM makers continue to support KitKat builds to finalize them for people like you, who prefer stability (Totally understandable). I'll build Carbon's final KitKat build when they're done and you can bet your butt that'll be stable!
I want to focus on Lollipop because there's going to be a whoooole year ahead of us on it, may as well start now I suppose
Sorry the ROM community overlooks you, I hope you are able to experience a stable custom Android experience soon
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i shall report as many bugs i can see and i ll learn how to logcat this and find out whose forum i can spam on.
but what i fear is, that the community will stop working on our phone roms and then it will be abandoned bc of other phone models. so in that case we will be left hanging again...
i know it doesnt sound positive but i saw that on the other phone model section in xda.
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i shall report as many bugs i can see and i ll learn how to logcat this and find out whose forum i can spam on.
but what i fear is, that the community will stop working on our phone roms and then it will be abandoned bc of other phone models. so in that case we will be left hanging again...
i know it doesnt sound positive but i saw that on the other phone model section in xda.
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Well, I'm here for a solid number of months yet. And, if need be I'll write a good tut for building ROMs for our phone specifically if it is necessary before I leave for a new phone. Anybody can build, you just need a decent computer, some intelligence, and lots of patience. So that's not too much of a concern
Carbon news
Well carbon had posted their announcement that they freeze the kitkat development and working on the LOLLIPOP firmwares, which i find that kind of sad bc im a fan of bug free and stable roms...
here s the announcement https://carbonrom.org/on-to-sweeter-things/
As for the votes, I vote for having the latest features in your kernel for the kitkat versions like you have done on lollipop :good:
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Well carbon had posted their announcement that they freeze the kitkat development and working on the LOLLIPOP firmwares, which i find that kind of sad bc im a fan of bug free and stable roms...
here s the announcement https://carbonrom.org/on-to-sweeter-things/
As for the votes, I vote for having the latest features in your kernel for the kitkat versions like you have done on lollipop :good:
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"Firstly, our Kitkat nightlies will be on a code freeze from here on out. No new features, nothing of that sort. Only bug fixes and commits that add to the ROM’s stability will be considered for admittance. The two nightlies normally released each week will also not being produced anymore. We will do our best to get the bugs fixed and release a final Kitkat Milestone build sometime in the future, but no guarantees as usual."
Sounds like they're working for a stable KitKat still. KitKat kernel? Mmmm :T The commits in the LP kernel took quite some time. I don't even have the old sources anymore. I suppose I can go redownload them but that's a lot of work for not very many users benefits.
I will look into it I suppose.
Has development slowed down for our device? Since lollipop got released, there hasn't been many new updates for existing roms or new roms. I know, if I want it, I should develop a rom myself. But, I've never been good at program languages so, I depend on the fine folks here on XDA. I appreciate all their efforts. But, again I ask, has development slowed?
The device is aging, M9 is supposed to be revealed tomorrow. I'm not even sure if they will make the 5.1 Android for M8, and that is much needed, seeing how buggy Lollipop is. I seriously regret updating, I wish I had enough sense to stay wit KitKat, that worked great on my phone.
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Has development slowed down for our device? Since lollipop got released, there hasn't been many new updates for existing roms or new roms. I know, if I want it, I should develop a rom myself. But, I've never been good at program languages so, I depend on the fine folks here on XDA. I appreciate all their efforts. But, again I ask, has development slowed?
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ViperOneM8 has been updated three times in the last two weeks, with another update to come out in the next few days. Although two of them mostly addressed bug fixes, there were also new features added.
There has been a couple of lollipop nightly builds for this device. To be honest, I don't really notice a slowdown of development.
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Has development slowed down for our device? Since lollipop got released, there hasn't been many new updates for existing roms or new roms. I know, if I want it, I should develop a rom myself. But, I've never been good at program languages so, I depend on the fine folks here on XDA. I appreciate all their efforts. But, again I ask, has development slowed?
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No i do not share the feeling development slowed down, then again why should a developer spend so much time on these builds when sense 7 is around the corner. I think they pick the most valuable tweaks and parts of optimization.
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No i do not share the feeling development slowed down, then again why should a developer spend so much time on these builds when sense 7 is around the corner. I think they pick the most valuable tweaks and parts of optimization.
My 2 cents
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Do you think Sense 7 and Android 5.1 are actually coming to the M8?
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Do you think Sense 7 and Android 5.1 are actually coming to the M8?
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I don't think.....know for sure it will
Hi Folks,
Everyone is eager to know "when can we get CM12 on Zenfone 2?".
We all are fed-up of the official ASUS builds .... (fast charging & fast draining technology together :laugh.
Are people working on building CM12 for ZF2 & when can we expect the first drop ?
Just a hint would also bring new hopes to most of us
I'm really excited to know about this
https://github.com/CM-zenfone2 ?
i guess everyone is wating for the same...
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https://github.com/CM-zenfone2 ��
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sorry, what does this mean? a CM build is already being worked on?
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sorry, what does this mean? a CM build is already being worked on?
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Yes, someone is working on it rightnow, and according to the commits, we will have a CM 12.1 rom for Zenfone 2 soon :good:
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Hi Folks,
Everyone is eager to know "when can we get CM12 on Zenfone 2?".
We all are fed-up of the official ASUS builds .... (fast charging & fast draining technology together :laugh.
Are people working on building CM12 for ZF2 & when can we expect the first drop ?
Just a hint would also bring new hopes to most of us
I'm really excited to know about this
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please..first rule of CM or XDA, never ask for ETA, and never ask or push developers to speed up their work or we will never get any of it..
just keep waiting and when the time has come, they will share it with us..just dont keep asking for ETA please.. and i hope that xda newcomer on zf2 forum must learn this word, NEVER ASK FOR ETA for any development..its a taboo here..
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We all are fed-up of the official ASUS builds .... (fast charging & fast draining technology together :laugh.
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I'm not. Something I learned some time back is that unless the kernel and device tree of the aftermarket ROM (like AOSP, or a derivative like CM) is developed by someone that knows every last nook can cranny of the device (as in the OEM, and I don't imagine that happening), the device won't be optimized out of the gate to provide better battery life than stock.
Hacking a device tree from scratch, rather than building on what the OEM has provided (albeit not knowing what route they are going with this one) spells problems. Of my two devices that I had custom ROMs for, neither worked fully (no matter which ROM you chose) or engaged more hardware (something was always missing or broken) , and the battery life was worse than stock (even with modest OS jump, from stock GB to ICS/CM9).
You can see how I voted, although I am not reserved to stock forever. CM13 or CM14 would be the time I would be interested in something other than stock, when the kernel and device tree becomes mature enough to prove myself wrong regarding the above.
The only thing I like in official FW is "double-tap to wake".
But it's actually not "double-tap to wake" because the phone never sleep.
When I watched CPU state with CPU Spy and found out Deep Sleep state never be used.
The reason why it's drain about 1%/hour even not connecting to anything.
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The only thing I like in official FW is "double-tap to wake".
But it's actually not "double-tap to wake" because the phone never sleep.
When I watched CPU state with CPU Spy and found out Deep Sleep state never be used.
The reason why it's drain about 1%/hour even not connecting to anything.
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I have DT2W active and I have deepsleep..try wiping everything, maybe you have some problem on the phone.
Everyone that wants CM, feel free to devote some time and help build it.
Please dont forget about ze550ml model
(Even if the roms look like they are pratically the same, except for DPI setting)
yeayyy cynogenmod for our zenfone 2 yeHaaaa
This thread should be closed..
trnscnd said:
This thread should be closed..
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why? finally here we can discuss about development of cm12.1 that is already wip
waiting that the official thread is open
no eta, of course..
Harfainx said:
Everyone that wants CM, feel free to devote some time and help build it.
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Is there a github link? I've never contributed to any open source project but always wanted to
sarthak96 said:
Is there a github link? I've never contributed to any open source project but always wanted to
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Second post in this thread.
MatteXperiaU said:
why? finally here we can discuss about development of cm12.1 that is already wip
waiting that the official thread is open
no eta, of course..
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What about it would you like to discuss?
trnscnd said:
What about it would you like to discuss?
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i don't know, unfortunately i can't help because i have no skills in development..but..maybe here we can follow the news and someone could join the work
Im reallly tired of Asus UI and i really need CM 12 but only if it's stable.
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i don't know, unfortunately i can't help because i have no skills in development..but..maybe here we can follow the news and someone could join the work
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You could follow here if you wanted. I believe the only thing you will get here with regards to CyanogenMod for the ZF2 will be the ROM post/thread when it is ready. I understand what you are getting at. My point was this particular thread should not have been made in the first place. A simple search would have yielded info the OP was looking for (with the exception of an ETA).
Shame on me but never saw any CM rom, not even from distance. Can someone link me some good source of picture/video so I can see some good/cool stuff about CM and decide if it is worth more than ASUS stock rom (which is pretty good by me)?
I'm new to HTC (but certainly not new to the world of custom ROMs). Is there a likelihood we'll see ROMs not based on HTC's software? Has HTC been good in the past releasing the necessary software to the developers to port other ROMs to this device? This is the only major thing I feel is missing with this phone. I'm enjoying having my root apps back and whatnot but I do miss having those truly custom ROMs.
We absolutely will see a ton of ROMS. It's just going to take some time. The device is brand new. Give it some time. Based on timing, it's also possible some devs are going to just jump right into N adding a little delay.
Either way, this is a dev friendly flagship, so we will definitely get variety.
yes it would get a ton of custom roms...
but definitely not a pure aosp rom or rom built from scratch on aosp for HTC 10 or any of the HTC devices so far...
that only happens with very few devices and definitely our pure love Nexus!!!!!
i miss those aosp builds already and still holding onto Nexus because ofthat....
Me too, im looking forward for them. I just jumped from a nexus 5, and i'm very pleased with the 10 but i do miss the customization and the pure android feel. God bless the developers, and hopefully we gonna see a pure aosp rom soon
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To be honest it all depends. 1. If the development get the device or 2. Some one gets it and does the work. The second option is most likely as most development teams fight only nexus devices and leave the other devices to people that buy them.
friendly bump it's August...safe to say no hope for any other types of ROMs?
Just bought my wife a gold OnePlus3. It's like a Nexus...stupid simple OEM unlock and ROMs up to wahzoo....tempting to switch over. I still like the display and the audio on the HTC 10 for now. It's pretty snappy and I'm happy with Viper but I do miss all the other "tweaks."
The main resaon for missing other Rom's is the later Release of this Device. But i think u only need one ROM, its Viper that u use... i recive my Device this Month and i know that i dont miss this CM Based things.
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friendly bump it's August...safe to say no hope for any other types of ROMs?
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Not even close! Check the cm13 dev thread, development is more or less just getting started in porting it over (even though a lot has already been done, just what's left is not small)
A lot of custom AOSP roms start with cm as a base, so once they get the rest of the hardware/kernel level stuff figured out you'll start seeing the typical wave of them shortly thereafter.
Just remember this stuff is a hobby and it's summer time (at least in the states) so be patient.
Honestly, I've held out even unlocking so far in part because of this. There's enough on stock that the value isn't there for me until there's a tasty selection of both AOSP and sense roms for me to try
With all the stuff going on surrounding Cyanogen I wouldn't be surprised if we stop seeing CM ROM development altogether.
dangle79 said:
Not even close! Check the cm13 dev thread, development is more or less just getting started in porting it over (even though a lot has already been done, just what's left is not small)
A lot of custom AOSP roms start with cm as a base, so once they get the rest of the hardware/kernel level stuff figured out you'll start seeing the typical wave of them shortly thereafter.
Just remember this stuff is a hobby and it's summer time (at least in the states) so be patient.
Honestly, I've held out even unlocking so far in part because of this. There's enough on stock that the value isn't there for me until there's a tasty selection of both AOSP and sense roms for me to try
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isn't aosp based and cm based both different....
SacredDeviL666 said:
isn't aosp based and cm based both different....
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I guess it depends on how specific one needs to be on the definition. CM is an AOSP-based ROM, see http://www.cyanogenmod.org/about, so any other ROM using CM as a base would in my eyes ultimately be AOSP-based itself. Put into analog, let's say you take some wood and build a chair. Then later you cut down that chair a bit to make a foot stool, maybe cut in a cup-holder and paint on some cool new QS tiles. Is that stool made out of wood or made out of chair?
SacredDeviL666 said:
isn't aosp based and cm based both different....
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I guess it depends on how specific one needs to be on the definition. CM is an AOSP-based ROM, see http://www.cyanogenmod.org/about, so any other ROM using CM as a base would in my eyes ultimately be AOSP-based itself. Put into analog, let's say you take some wood and build a chair. Then later you cut down that chair a bit to make a foot stool, maybe cut in a cup-holder and paint on some cool new QS tiles. Is that stool made out of wood or made out of chair?
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CM is now as far away from AOSP as any other oem based rom.
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CM is now as far away from AOSP as any other oem based rom.
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that is very true
but the point i was trying to make there was that most if not all non-oem roms (at least for htc handsets) rooted in AOSP are either based on cm or wind up getting ported with a HAL cherry-picked from cm. (just what i've seen)
the first domino has gotta fall
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that is very true
but the point i was trying to make there was that most if not all non-oem roms (at least for htc handsets) rooted in AOSP are either based on cm or wind up getting ported with a HAL cherry-picked from cm. (just what i've seen)
the first domino has gotta fall
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You would really be amazed. Most people are avoiding use anything from cm. Maybe only the theme engine but that isn't even really theirs. With CM history of not testing commits and bugs that have been around for years unfixed. Many are finding it easier just to not deal with cm. Plus the main devs ticked alot of devs off so they won't use it out of principles.
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You would really be amazed. Most people are avoiding use anything from cm. Maybe only the theme engine but that isn't even really theirs. With CM history of not testing commits and bugs that have been around for years unfixed. Many are finding it easier just to not deal with cm. Plus the main devs ticked alot of devs off so they won't use it out of principles.
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I've always felt CM 6-7 was very well polished and after so many devices being introduced, has lost it's reliability and polishness that OEMs offer after CM 7.
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I've always felt CM 6-7 was very well polished and after so many devices being introduced, has lost it's reliability and polishness that OEMs offer after CM 7.
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zelendel said:
You would really be amazed. Most people are avoiding use anything from cm. Maybe only the theme engine but that isn't even really theirs. With CM history of not testing commits and bugs that have been around for years unfixed. Many are finding it easier just to not deal with cm. Plus the main devs ticked alot of devs off so they won't use it out of principles.
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Yeah I'm basing all that off what I saw with the jewel which I just now jumped from. I'm a coder but not an Android dev by any stretch, and was rolling my own cm for the better part of the past year and dabbled in porting briefly.
I can totally see what you're saying though. At some point you get too many hands in the pot and it becomes more curse than blessing.
Sorry to bump this up again but is there any active development on AOSP for the 10? Haven't seen anything yet.
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Sorry to bump this up again but is there any active development on AOSP for the 10? Haven't seen anything yet.
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keep checking http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development
there is this one there already http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development/rom-validusos-m-gzr-23-08-2016-t3446373
but still with a few bugs, give it a little more time and we should get something for daily driver
anything yet?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development