[Q] Root + Recovery question - G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
I always had a HTC, so I'm kind of a new with rooting and unlocking an LG.
I have a LG D855 international and I have been reading a lot in this forum and I think that I've figured it out. But I just wont to be sure.
So if I'm right than I can root my phone by running purpledrake. When I've done that I have to install SU.
But if I understand it correcly the only way to get twrp is with" Bump'ed TWRP" so it's only possible to have TWRP if I use a custom rom?
So it's not possible to have orig Rom an TWRP? Right?
But If I just root my phone with purpledrake, so without installing TWRP and without custom Rom, I would still be able to use EXPOSED? RIght?

bamps said:
Hello,
I always had a HTC, so I'm kind of a new with rooting and unlocking an LG.
I have a LG D855 international and I have been reading a lot in this forum and I think that I've figured it out. But I just wont to be sure.
So if I'm right than I can root my phone by running purpledrake. When I've done that I have to install SU.
But if I understand it correcly the only way to get twrp is with" Bump'ed TWRP" so it's only possible to have TWRP if I use a custom rom?
So it's not possible to have orig Rom an TWRP? Right?
But If I just root my phone with purpledrake, so without installing TWRP and without custom Rom, I would still be able to use EXPOSED? RIght?
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Yes Purple Drake is currently the most reliable root method, once you have root you need to install the SuperSU app of your choice.
Don't confuse yourself with Bump! Just accept that this is the only recovery that works with the G3 and install it then use it like normal. You will only be able to flash custom kernels (and roms with custom kernels) after they have been bumped, this is something the developer will do for you not anything for you to be concerned with, and fairly soon (when this method is released) all custom roms and kernels you find on xda will be pre-bumped - so basically you can treat the recovery like you always have done.
Xposed is nothing to do with recovery and everything to do with having root access.

Does this recovery back up my stock rom safely? I'm hesitant to use it because I've never heard of bump.

davidstjohn1 said:
Does this recovery back up my stock rom safely? I'm hesitant to use it because I've never heard of bump.
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Nope, afaik, once on bumped twrp, u can't restore stock recovery. For that you will again have to flash the stock KDZ.

OK so it's only for bumped roms. Thank you

davidstjohn1 said:
OK so it's only for bumped roms. Thank you
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The user above you is wrong and didnt read your question properly.
You CAN back up your stock ROM, just install bump, head to recovery and do a backup - you will never get stock recovery back though, unless you flash a KDZ with Flashtool.
But yes you can use TWRP to back up your currenty stock ROM.

Okay I get it the only way to restore the rom that I backed up is to add bump to it! ok I got it but in order to get back my stock phone I'm going to have to use the LG flash tool right

Lennyuk said:
Yes Purple Drake is currently the most reliable root method, once you have root you need to install the SuperSU app of your choice.
Don't confuse yourself with Bump! Just accept that this is the only recovery that works with the G3 and install it then use it like normal. You will only be able to flash custom kernels (and roms with custom kernels) after they have been bumped, this is something the developer will do for you not anything for you to be concerned with, and fairly soon (when this method is released) all custom roms and kernels you find on xda will be pre-bumped - so basically you can treat the recovery like you always have done.
Xposed is nothing to do with recovery and everything to do with having root access.
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Thanx a lot.
I just wanted to make sure that I have everything right.
Thanks again

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[Q] Rooting without ROMing?

I just got the new G3 and am looking into rooting, but I'm not interested in using any ROMs.
I've done the same with my Epic 4g for the last few years, but have run into issues at times.
My question is, will I run into any issues if I just run a rooted, non-ROMed phone? If so, are there things I can do to prevent them?
I'm only looking to be able to freeze bloatware, use adblocks, get free hotspot, use backup utilities, etc. But I don't want to run into issues with sprint updates, etc.
Basically wondering what the best way to utilize a rooted, non-ROMed G3 would be.
Thanks for the help.
Xolias21 said:
I just got the new G3 and am looking into rooting, but I'm not interested in using any ROMs.
I've done the same with my Epic 4g for the last few years, but have run into issues at times.
My question is, will I run into any issues if I just run a rooted, non-ROMed phone? If so, are there things I can do to prevent them?
I'm only looking to be able to freeze bloatware, use adblocks, get free hotspot, use backup utilities, etc. But I don't want to run into issues with sprint updates, etc.
Basically wondering what the best way to utilize a rooted, non-ROMed G3 would be.
Thanks for the help.
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Easiest way without issues would probly be to get all the sprint updates before you root. Once ur up to date flash CWM or Twrp thru Odin and flash the Team epic root from recovery file while in there. Then if you dont want the custom recovery flash the stock one back after your rooted.
billard412 said:
Easiest way without issues would probly be to get all the sprint updates before you root. Once ur up to date flash CWM or Twrp thru Odin and flash the Team epic root from recovery file while in there. Then if you dont want the custom recovery flash the stock one back after your rooted.
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Thanks for the quick reply, after looking through and reading about the FreeGS3 ROM, I'm thinking of going with Twrp and flashing FreeGS3.
Though, all I'm seeing for Twrp is installing through GooManager, which requires a root. I know how to use the CWM tar in odin and flash the Team Epic root, but I'm not sure how to get twrp on before cwm.
Is there a tar file for twrp like the cwm one used in QBKing77s root videos?
Xolias21 said:
Thanks for the quick reply, after looking through and reading about the FreeGS3 ROM, I'm thinking of going with Twrp and flashing FreeGS3.
Though, all I'm seeing for Twrp is installing through GooManager, which requires a root. I know how to use the CWM tar in odin and flash the Team Epic root, but I'm not sure how to get twrp on before cwm.
Is there a tar file for twrp like the cwm one used in QBKing77s root videos?
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dont think theres one posted but i made my own here ya go https://dl.dropbox.com/s/gegn4jfuc74sq1d/TWRP (3).tar?dl=1
billard412 said:
dont think theres one posted but i made my own here ya go https://dl.dropbox.com/s/gegn4jfuc74sq1d/TWRP (3).tar?dl=1
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Last question, if I were to install twrp on top of cwm, is there a way to remove cwm? Or a reason to for that matter?
Xolias21 said:
Last question, if I were to install twrp on top of cwm, is there a way to remove cwm? Or a reason to for that matter?
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nope, twrp will just replace it
billard412 said:
nope, twrp will just replace it
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I guess cwm and twrp share the same partition.
Will just root using cwm and install twrp over goomanager.
Awesome, thank you again.
No problem, if needed here is a flashable zip that will install TWRP from CWM https://dl.dropbox.com/s/v3t8u6ebs3pvstq/TwrpRecovery.zip?dl=1

[Q] Root without installing custom recovery g3??

I can see from the questions that you can flash SuperSU and get root without installing a custom recovery on the One Mini but is this possible to do on the LG G3?
I've searched and I can't come up with anything.
I want to root simply to remove apps so I don't want to install CWM/TWRP as having a custom recovery annoys the HELL out of me. I don't understand why a custom recovery is needed? Can't the one that comes with the phone do everything those can?
IMO, they are just there cause they look prettier. LOL
Anyway, I have the T-Mobile G3. I had it rooted but unrooted to install latest update (that was hell, turned out my drivers were not updated). I used PurpleDrake last time but it installed TWRP and as I said, I don't want TWRP.
Any ideas?
Good question! Bumping this for you as I'm interested too!
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DudeThatsErin said:
I can see from the questions that you can flash SuperSU and get root without installing a custom recovery on the One Mini but is this possible to do on the LG G3?
I've searched and I can't come up with anything.
I want to root simply to remove apps so I don't want to install CWM/TWRP as having a custom recovery annoys the HELL out of me. I don't understand why a custom recovery is needed? Can't the one that comes with the phone do everything those can?
IMO, they are just there cause they look prettier. LOL
Anyway, I have the T-Mobile G3. I had it rooted but unrooted to install latest update (that was hell, turned out my drivers were not updated). I used PurpleDrake last time but it installed TWRP and as I said, I don't want TWRP.
Any ideas?
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DudeThatsErin said:
Good question! Bumping this for you as I'm interested too!
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I have the T-Mobile G3 as well. I rooted and got Supersu way before installing TWRP! It's possible. TWRP is a custom recovery that allows you to backup your entire phone (including software) in case you make a mistake. It also allows you to "flash" things to your phone. It has a lot of features and is needed to install a custom ROM or update that custom ROM.
You don't need it, but I would suggest it highly. The ability to backup everything is a must when you're doing something to your phone. It essentially prevents you from bricking your phone -- which I did. However, I made a full backup before deleting everything, so all I did was go into TWRP and undo the bricking by restoring a backup.
You can root your phone without a custom recovery. Then you can go into the play store and download SuperSu, then you can download Titanium Backup to remove the bloatware. A custom recovery isn't needed for any of this.

Re-flash stock recovery. GET RID OF TWRP

Hello, everybuddy, i recently installed twrp via flashify on my g3. Now that i see android L is being released, i would like to get the OTA for that so i have to get back to stock recovery. Can i just flash it via flashify? and if i can what do i flash? and will it be the same as it was before so i can get OTA? im also rooted, will i get eh OTA if i have root? i know it will kill it but i dont care about that, i just want to make sure ill get the OTA
Your best bet will probably be to follow this guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-g3/general/firmware-t-mobile-lg-g3-t2818667
This will take you back to stock. Getting rid of TWRP is not enough to get OTA to successfully install. You also need to unroot and restore any apps that you may have frozen or removed such as CarrierIQ. Additionally remove xposed if running. Again, instead of going through that trouble, it would be easier to get restore to stock since it's a quick flash.
Note: I would not necessarily be in a hurry to take the OTA. It's possible that it may not be easy to obtain root. Thus I would suggest waiting till one of the devs has had the opportunity to review and confirm that root can still be obtained.
cbb77 said:
Your best bet will probably be to follow this guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-g3/general/firmware-t-mobile-lg-g3-t2818667
This will take you back to stock. Getting rid of TWRP is not enough to get OTA to successfully install. You also need to unroot and restore any apps that you may have frozen or removed such as CarrierIQ. Additionally remove xposed if running. Again, instead of going through that trouble, it would be easier to get restore to stock since it's a quick flash.
Note: I would not necessarily be in a hurry to take the OTA. It's possible that it may not be easy to obtain root. Thus I would suggest waiting till one of the devs has had the opportunity to review and confirm that root can still be obtained.
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i havent removed any apps. just used twrp to check out the pac rom, which was awsome. so i cant just flash the stock recovery?
chronichemp said:
i havent removed any apps. just used twrp to check out the pac rom, which was awsome. so i cant just flash the stock recovery?
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You still running pac rom? If so OTA will not work. However if you already flashed back to stock and are just rooted, then yes you can unroot and flash back the stock recovery. I believe the stock recovery can be found somewhere here. If I find a link I will post.
cbb77 said:
You still running pac rom? If so OTA will not work. However if you already flashed back to stock and are just rooted, then yes you can unroot and flash back the stock recovery. I believe the stock recovery can be found somewhere here. If I find a link I will post.
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thanks thatd be great! yes i nandroided back to my original state. just wanted to see how pure android looked, and it was gorgeous! but i want to save the experience for android L.
chronichemp said:
i havent removed any apps. just used twrp to check out the pac rom, which was awsome. so i cant just flash the stock recovery?
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Yes, you can restore the stock recocovery.img using Flashify.
See link for stock d851 "c" & "m" partitions:
http://downloads.codefi.re/autoprime/LG/LG_G3/D851/stock_partitions
AndroidUzer said:
Yes, you can restore the stock recocovery.img using Flashify.
See link for stock d851 "c" & "m" partitions:
http://downloads.codefi.re/autoprime/LG/LG_G3/D851/stock_partitions
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Thanks alot man! The 10m partition i should use because thats the newest one right? Flashed and everythings back the way it was.
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Do you guys know where i could find the stock recovory image for the d852g ? If anyone can post a link it would be much appreciated..
AndroidUzer said:
Yes, you can restore the stock recocovery.img using Flashify.
See link for stock d851 "c" & "m" partitions:
http://downloads.codefi.re/autoprime/LG/LG_G3/D851/stock_partitions
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Hi, I am looking for flashing stock recovery on my LG G3 Sprint LS990. I believe the same method will work. I am currently running on stock ZVB ROM rooted and TWRP installed as recovery. In the download folder for LS990-ZVB http://downloads.codefi.re/autoprime/LG/LG_G3/LS990/stock_partitions/ZVB, there is no recovery image file, but in ZVA folder there is. I am just wondering if I can flash ZVA folder's recovery image using Flashify to my ZVB ROM LS990 and if that will work.
My LS990 is rooted and currently have TWRP. i get secure boot error when the phone reboots after accepting Android updates installation that come automatically. I believe installing stock recovery will resolve this issue and allow to install Android updates I do not want to going back to stock completely, that will unroot my phone and again I have do all these staffs.
Anyone can help to advise, will be appreciated. Thanks.

Unrooting help URGENT

Hi I want to unroot my G3 so I can get marshmallow without the fuss and stuff. The thing is flashing a stock lollipop will delete my data, which to me is very important. So I really have no idea of how to backup fully(except rom) other than taking a nandroid. Are there any other ways of unrooting which will undo my mods and stuff, keeping in mind I'm on a stock rom which is rooted, or any simple way to do a backup and restore from a rooted rom to a stock rom.
AryG15 said:
Hi I want to unroot my G3 so I can get marshmallow without the fuss and stuff. The thing is flashing a stock lollipop will delete my data, which to me is very important. So I really have no idea of how to backup fully(except rom) other than taking a nandroid. Are there any other ways of unrooting which will undo my mods and stuff, keeping in mind I'm on a stock rom which is rooted, or any simple way to do a backup and restore from a rooted rom to a stock rom.
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If I'm not wrong, when you flash the .KDZ it will un-root automatically your device. But just download Titanium Backup and backup all your apps, then install the bumped version of the MM (if you don't have TWRP installed, it is very easy to do it in LL).
I don't remember if Titanium can install all your apps back with theirs respectives datas without root, but you can root the device again if you install the .zip via the custom recovery. You can do it as well if you flash the KDZ, but as I have installed the bumped Marshmallow, I'll let someone else explain it to you.
Of course, if you still want to unroot, as you are in lollipop you probably used Kingroot or some app like that. Just open the app and try to find an option to unroot, most of them have it right when you open it.
Sorry for any typo or broken english, I'm in kind of a hurry
Perrotti said:
If I'm not wrong, when you flash the .KDZ it will un-root automatically your device. But just download Titanium Backup and backup all your apps, then install the bumped version of the MM (if you don't have TWRP installed, it is very easy to do it in LL).
I don't remember if Titanium can install all your apps back with theirs respectives datas without root, but you can root the device again if you install the .zip via the custom recovery. You can do it as well if you flash the KDZ, but as I have installed the bumped Marshmallow, I'll let someone else explain it to you.
Of course, if you still want to unroot, as you are in lollipop you probably used Kingroot or some app like that. Just open the app and try to find an option to unroot, most of them have it right when you open it.
Sorry for any typo or broken english, I'm in kind of a hurry
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When I said marshmallow I meant LG marshmallow which has begun being released in Poland, not Google stock.
AryG15 said:
When I said marshmallow I meant LG marshmallow which has begun being released in Poland, not Google stock.
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And so do I. There is a bumped version of the LG MM, it is right on the Android Development first page, just download and flash it if you don't want to lose your custom recovery with the KDZ
Perrotti said:
And so do I. There is a bumped version of the LG MM, it is right on the Android Development first page, just download and flash it if you don't want to lose your custom recovery with the KDZ
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Oh right ok. Do you have any way of restoring data if I flash back to a lollipop rom with stock recovery?
AryG15 said:
Oh right ok. Do you have any way of restoring data if I flash back to a lollipop rom with stock recovery?
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You can always root it again and restore your data using Titanium =P. The recovery is only needed to flash custom roms ou .zip files, like Viper4Android (although you can download the non-official one from Play Store), mods and etc.
I know there are some apps that don't need neither root nor custom recoverys, but I haven't used any of them, so I will let someone with more experience in that area explain it to you.
Just one more thing: I saw that there are ways of downgrading back to lollipop if you flash the official KDZ, but they're a little bit tricky, so I still recommend you to flash the .zip through TWRP (upgrade it to the 2.8.7.1 version if you haven't done it already). If you need more help, or if I wasn't clear enough, just mention or quote me and I'll se if I can help
Perrotti said:
You can always root it again and restore your data using Titanium =P. The recovery is only needed to flash custom roms ou .zip files, like Viper4Android (although you can download the non-official one from Play Store), mods and etc.
I know there are some apps that don't need neither root nor custom recoverys, but I haven't used any of them, so I will let someone with more experience in that area explain it to you.
Just one more thing: I saw that there are ways of downgrading back to lollipop if you flash the official KDZ, but they're a little bit tricky, so I still recommend you to flash the .zip through TWRP (upgrade it to the 2.8.7.1 version if you haven't done it already). If you need more help, or if I wasn't clear enough, just mention or quote me and I'll se if I can help
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Honestly all I really want is to get rid of root on my phone. Would SuperSU's unroot work so I can get to a state where I can use OTAs again?
AryG15 said:
Honestly all I really want is to get rid of root on my phone. Would SuperSU's unroot work so I can get to a state where I can use OTAs again?
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There are 2 ways to get stock marshmallow running on d855s now:
1. Flash via TWRP 2.8.7.0 by following instructions from here.
2. Downloading KDZ file from here and flashing using LG Flash Tool 2014 or LGUP tool.
I would recommend that you use method 1 since you are rooted. You can use TiBackup to backup your apps+data and after flashing you will still have root and you can restore apps+data using TiBackup.
Also, method 1 is better than method 2 because if you use method 2, you will lock your bootloader and lose root. You MAY not be able to downgrade to Lollipop, and I don't think there's a reliable way to root stock marshmallow just yet.
tietganFTW said:
There are 2 ways to get stock marshmallow running on d855s now:
1. Flash via TWRP 2.8.7.0 by following instructions from here.
2. Downloading KDZ file from here and flashing using LG Flash Tool 2014 or LGUP tool.
I would recommend that you use method 1 since you are rooted. You can use TiBackup to backup your apps+data and after flashing you will still have root and you can restore apps+data using TiBackup.
Also, method 1 is better than method 2 because if you use method 2, you will lock your bootloader and lose root. You MAY not be able to downgrade to Lollipop, and I don't think there's a reliable way to root stock marshmallow just yet.
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I think you're misunderstanding me, I'd like to go back to an unrooted version of lollipop and eventually get the official marshmallow update. I don't want to get involved in flashing and stuff, it's just time consuming. So to sum it up - go to unrooted lollipop with all my data(no root mods) and wait for official update.
AryG15 said:
I think you're misunderstanding me, I'd like to go back to an unrooted version of lollipop and eventually get the official marshmallow update. I don't want to get involved in flashing and stuff, it's just time consuming. So to sum it up - go to unrooted lollipop with all my data(no root mods) and wait for official update.
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i think you can use an app called Helium. Then go back to stock using LG Flash Tool 2014 and lollipop kdz
tietganFTW said:
i think you can use an app called Helium. Then go back to stock using LG Flash Tool 2014 and lollipop kdz
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Doesn't helium just do rooted devices? (I had that problem on Xperia devices)
Plus any recommendations for apps to backup everything else?
tietganFTW said:
i think you can use an app called Helium. Then go back to stock using LG Flash Tool 2014 and lollipop kdz
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He wants to unroot the phone and keep all his data, so the only way he could flash the LL kdz and keep his apps would be rooting again and installing the backup using Titanium.
@OP, what root metod did you use? Helium propably will work, but I haven't used it yet. Try opening your SuperSU app and selecting the option to unroot in the settings. Most of 'em have it.
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He wants to unroot the phone and keep all his data, so the only way he could flash the LL kdz and keep his apps would be rooting again and installing the backup using Titanium.
@OP, what root metod did you use? Helium propably will work, but I haven't used it yet. Try opening your SuperSU app and selecting the option to unroot in the settings. Most of 'em have it.
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I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-method-lg-devices-t3129197? to root. I'd use the unroot on my SuperSU but I'm not sure if it'd get me to a state where I can use OTA again. Would I unroot automatically if I updated my phone via a PC?
AryG15 said:
I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-method-lg-devices-t3129197? to root. I'd use the unroot on my SuperSU but I'm not sure if it'd get me to a state where I can use OTA again. Would I unroot automatically if I updated my phone via a PC?
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If you flash the KDZ using the CSE_Flash option, yes, it will unroot the phone. If you just dirty flash it, I don't know, maybe.
If you unroot by using the option in SuperSU, you'll be able to update using OTA, you will only have some issues (aka bootloops) if you have a custom recovery installed. If you have, don't EVER try to install ANY OTA.
Perrotti said:
If you flash the KDZ using the CSE_Flash option, yes, it will unroot the phone. If you just dirty flash it, I don't know, maybe.
If you unroot by using the option in SuperSU, you'll be able to update using OTA, you will only have some issues (aka bootloops) if you have a custom recovery installed. If you have, don't EVER try to install ANY OTA.
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I used autorec to get twrp(fairly sure I don't have the latest version of twrp either) would I be fine for ota if I use autorec to go back to stock recovery and then unroot via supersu?
AryG15 said:
I used autorec to get twrp(fairly sure I don't have the latest version of twrp either) would I be fine for ota if I use autorec to go back to stock recovery and then unroot via supersu?
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If you manage to install the stock recovery and then unroot, you are good to go!
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Perrotti said:
If you manage to install the stock recovery and then unroot, you are good to go!
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Ok thanks, are there any ways to repair the update via lg pc suite?
AryG15 said:
Ok thanks, are there any ways to repair the update via lg pc suite?
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By repairing, you mean just unroot and install the stock recovery back? I don't think so, the .KDZ file is a full OS. If you flash it you will have your stock recovery and will unroot, but your phone will be factory reseted
Perrotti said:
By repairing, you mean just unroot and install the stock recovery back? I don't think so, the .KDZ file is a full OS. If you flash it you will have your stock recovery and will unroot, but your phone will be factory reseted
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Oh so that's a dead end. Anyways for some reason autorec can't restore stock recovery, are there other ways of doing that?
AryG15 said:
Oh so that's a dead end. Anyways for some reason autorec can't restore stock recovery, are there other ways of doing that?
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I don't think there is any option besides restoring the stock recovery. I've seen a way of doing in somewhere in a Brazilian forum, but you would have to have a backup of it, which I don't think you do. Anyway, your best chance is to use titanium backup to backup your data (and move your photos and videos to the sd card), restore the system by flashing it using the flash tool, root it again, restore everything using titanium, and unroot. But I highly recommend you to keep your device the way it is, and update just when there is a deodexed Rom or a custom stock Rom available. After you get used to having root and a custom recovery, there is no turning back.
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Best way to root,unlock BL and install custom recovery

I have Xperia z1 compact running stock non-rooted 14.6.A.1.236 rom. My bootloader is locked. I want to be able to install custom roms. What's the best way to root, unlock bl and install custom recovery? I've been searching forum for past few days but most of the download links redirect to d-h.st. and that breaks the chain of needed files.
Also i never used flashtool and i don't know should i use Sony flashtool or "original" one
bolcna said:
I have Xperia z1 compact running stock non-rooted 14.6.A.1.236 rom. My bootloader is locked. I want to be able to install custom roms. What's the best way to root, unlock bl and install custom recovery? I've been searching forum for past few days but most of the download links redirect to d-h.st. and that breaks the chain of needed files.
Also i never used flashtool and i don't know should i use Sony flashtool or "original" one
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72547776&postcount=6
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72547776&postcount=6
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Do i have to be rooted to backup TA partition
bolcna said:
Do i have to be rooted to backup TA partition
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I don't think so. Just need adb...
I guess I don't have to open a new thread for this: I've been reading a lot about this recently and trying to get my thoughts straight about this:
I found PhilZ Dual Recovery (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647480) which works with locked bootloader. Some people wrote there they installed the recovery on 5.0.2, so it seems I have to downgrade first (I'm on 5.1.1), even though it doesn't say that in the manual..? - if you can't answer that I'll ask that later then in the linked thread.
Next thing: I rooted with Kingroot, but want to switch to SuperSU - cant switch because theres a problem with the binary, so I have to flash it anyway through custom recovery.
Can I now root with Kingroot, install PhilZ Dualrecovery and when it boots into Recovery Mode, can I just flash the SuperSu.zip?
OR would I need to boot normally first after custom recovery install, then uninstall Kingroot, to unroot, and THEN flash SuperSU in Recovery?
Ive been using root for years but never really got into flashing before so I'm quite new to that and appreciate your help. Thanks a bunch.
Raiyr said:
I guess I don't have to open a new thread for this: I've been reading a lot about this recently and trying to get my thoughts straight about this:
I found PhilZ Dual Recovery (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647480) which works with locked bootloader. Some people wrote there they installed the recovery on 5.0.2, so it seems I have to downgrade first (I'm on 5.1.1), even though it doesn't say that in the manual..? - if you can't answer that I'll ask that later then in the linked thread.
Next thing: I rooted with Kingroot, but want to switch to SuperSU - cant switch because theres a problem with the binary, so I have to flash it anyway through custom recovery.
Can I now root with Kingroot, install PhilZ Dualrecovery and when it boots into Recovery Mode, can I just flash the SuperSu.zip?
OR would I need to boot normally first after custom recovery install, then uninstall Kingroot, to unroot, and THEN flash SuperSU in Recovery?
Ive been using root for years but never really got into flashing before so I'm quite new to that and appreciate your help. Thanks a bunch.
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You don't have to downgrade to flash NUT. It's been a while since I did it, but I'm pretty sure that flashing supersu won't totally remove Kingroot. Best thing to do once you're rooted, if you don't want to unlock bl, is probably to install recovery, then in recovery flash a prf, which will wipe your system and install new system with supersu instead of Kingroot.
Raiyr said:
I guess I don't have to open a new thread for this: I've been reading a lot about this recently and trying to get my thoughts straight about this:
I found PhilZ Dual Recovery (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647480) which works with locked bootloader. Some people wrote there they installed the recovery on 5.0.2, so it seems I have to downgrade first (I'm on 5.1.1), even though it doesn't say that in the manual..? - if you can't answer that I'll ask that later then in the linked thread.
Next thing: I rooted with Kingroot, but want to switch to SuperSU - cant switch because theres a problem with the binary, so I have to flash it anyway through custom recovery.
Can I now root with Kingroot, install PhilZ Dualrecovery and when it boots into Recovery Mode, can I just flash the SuperSu.zip?
OR would I need to boot normally first after custom recovery install, then uninstall Kingroot, to unroot, and THEN flash SuperSU in Recovery?
Ive been using root for years but never really got into flashing before so I'm quite new to that and appreciate your help. Thanks a bunch.
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I don't trust any universal rooting apps. Only way to legit root your phone is to downgrade to kitkat and then root using exploit, then flash prerooted lollipop (that is if you wan't to stay on stock rooted rom). If you don't plan on staying on stock room and only want quick root you have to use kingroot since that's only universal root that can root z1c. When it comes to recovery there you have two choices. To use xzdualrecovery or to unlock bootloader (you will loose drm keys which means you will lose stuff like x-reality) and flash normal recovery. I would go for dual recovery because if you ever wan't to get back to stock you can since stock recovery isn't getting overwritten with xzdr. But if you choose to unlock bootloader first backup TA (you have to be rooted) and then unlock.
Hope this helps
Raiyr said:
I guess I don't have to open a new thread for this: I've been reading a lot about this recently and trying to get my thoughts straight about this:
I found PhilZ Dual Recovery (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647480) which works with locked bootloader. Some people wrote there they installed the recovery on 5.0.2, so it seems I have to downgrade first (I'm on 5.1.1), even though it doesn't say that in the manual..? - if you can't answer that I'll ask that later then in the linked thread.
Next thing: I rooted with Kingroot, but want to switch to SuperSU - cant switch because theres a problem with the binary, so I have to flash it anyway through custom recovery.
Can I now root with Kingroot, install PhilZ Dualrecovery and when it boots into Recovery Mode, can I just flash the SuperSu.zip?
OR would I need to boot normally first after custom recovery install, then uninstall Kingroot, to unroot, and THEN flash SuperSU in Recovery?
Ive been using root for years but never really got into flashing before so I'm quite new to that and appreciate your help. Thanks a bunch.
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bolcna said:
I don't trust any universal rooting apps. Only way to legit root your phone is to downgrade to kitkat and then root using exploit, then flash prerooted lollipop (that is if you wan't to stay on stock rooted rom). If you don't plan on staying on stock room and only want quick root you have to use kingroot since that's only universal root that can root z1c. When it comes to recovery there you have two choices. To use xzdualrecovery or to unlock bootloader (you will loose drm keys which means you will lose stuff like x-reality) and flash normal recovery. I would go for dual recovery because if you ever wan't to get back to stock you can since stock recovery isn't getting overwritten with xzdr. But if you choose to unlock bootloader first backup TA (you have to be rooted) and then unlock.
Hope this helps
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I would go with unlock bl method. You can restore TA after rooting so you done lose drm, and it's easy to root with unlocked bl - https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72547776&postcount=6

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