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Hello ,
Currently I am using LG Optimus 3d and looking at moving onto a galaxys Nexus , What i am basically wondering is should i upgrade now and take the upgrade to ice cream sandwhich or wait for a quad core phone coming q2 next year.
A friend will buy my LG for $400 and then i will need to contribute around 200-300 for the nexus. Is this a good choice , or a waste of money?
Thanks ,
jordan
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jordanprudent said:
Hello ,
Currently I am using LG Optimus 3d and looking at moving onto a galaxys Nexus , What i am basically wondering is should i upgrade now and take the upgrade to ice cream sandwhich or wait for a quad core phone coming q2 next year.
A friend will buy my LG for $400 and then i will need to contribute around 200-300 for the nexus. Is this a good choice , or a waste of money?
Thanks ,
jordan
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That depends. If you want sheer speed, you don't care about getting the latest updates the fastest, you don't mind having a phone with a custom skin pre-defined by the manufacturer (probably can be changed by changing launcher or flashing a rom) and you don't mind waiting a few months (or longer) for the quad core phones and if you game a lot: Get a quad core phone *which probably has a better gpu than the galaxy nexus*
If you like having the best updates the fastest, having ICS first, having a huge developer base and simply having a non-bloated launcher the answer is simple: Galaxy Nexus
My verdict: I'm getting the Galaxy Nexus as an upgrade from a Motorola Milestone. The phone can only be considered of viable quality if overclocked to 1GHz (from 550mhz) and have a lot of mods installed on it which in turn decreased the battery life significantly. I also live in Canada and since the Galaxy Nexus will be out for Bell early December I'm going to settle for that since I love customizing my phone, I want the ability to have a vanilla android, the hardware is likely to be very optimized for the hardware (+ theres hardware acceleration i think), there is likely to be a huge developer base and finally I want an upgrade for my phone and I don't want to wait 4-6 months for a new device with bloatware.
Note: I also wanted to point out that this is technology. There will always be something new around the corner (take computers for example this year sandy bridge, now sandy bridge E, then ivy bridge next year), you just have to be sure that you'll be set for a good duration of time (depending on your budget) with the phone you get. Also you can look here: http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/16/2565102/smartphone-buyers-guide
Edit: I would say your phone could last a little bit longer but its ultimately your choice.
As far as I'm concerned, a quad core nexus is at least 10 months away so the Galaxy Nexus is the easy choice. I've never had a phone nearly as good as my Nexus One, and extra cores aren't going to work a miracle for performance so IMO the GN will probably be the best phone until the Nexus 4.
Maybe not in certain areas (gpu, dual core), but as an all around well rounded, well supported good experience I'd take the GN before any phone ATM. My only issue is deciding whether to import from Europe or bite the bullet on the LTE version...
I'll go for whats available now, like what one of the post said, there is always something new around the corner.
the dual core is all you need now, although the quad cord sounds good on paper, but do you really need it, and there is really no need for it at the moment.
optimus porting ics really fast, all up to you if you want 720p?
you want 720p now then do the trade, if not keep your optimus 3d. its basicly the same thing but your not getting 720p. If i were you, i would wait for quad core, thats me tho.
And changing from a i9000 SGS1 is it worth? I listen to lots of music and watch videos, but i'm not sure if the change is worth.
Im deciding between getting the Galaxy Nexus for Verizon or a quad core phone. I was originally 100% going to get the Nexus but now that it is only 16 gigs and no expandable storage, I dont feel so safe getting it.
I like the whole concept of the cloud but what about when your on a plane or out of the country and do not have service or wifi. Other things that are causing me to stray from this device are the screen is RGGB (Pentile) and not RGB (Regular one), the top and bottom bezels are huge, its an OMAP processor (not the faster Exynos), and the processor is slower than the one in the Samsung Galaxy S2 (even though its overclocked). Things I like about this phone are that its going to get updates quickly, its stock vanilla android (no manufacturer skins), it has an ENORMOUS battery, and it has 4G LTE. When quad core phones come out, they will lose the bottom android buttons, have longer battery life, most likely better screens, 4G LTE, and also will be just as thin. If the quad core phone is made by samsung, than i plan on buying it immediately because TouchWiz is the least intrusive manufacturer skin, they are usually on the thin side, and have AmoLED screens.
I have an upgrade right now which i can give to my mom and i have another one in March. What should i do. I also want a quad core phone that has an unlocked boot-loader just incase i want to run a stock vanilla android rom (Verizon usually doesn't do this, just the nexus has an unlocked boot-loader). Please help
P.S. Im not buying anything thats not 4G LTE and im not buying anything off contract.
Wait for dual quad core phone better
Obvious answer is obvious.
Dual Core Padfone.
If you have an upgrade now and in March, why not get the Galaxy Nexus now and then upgrade to quad core next year (and give the GN to your mum)? Do you really need quad core? Are you really going to use a first gen quad core or might it be more sensible to wait until the issues are ironed out (such as battery life, app compatibility and who knows what else).
You can always for the next gen gadget .... but then you will never have any at all!
1.) Do you really need more than 16 GB?
2.) If you read a lot of the reviews and asked people on XDA, a lot of them said they don't notice any pixels and the screen looks great
3.)With the hardware acceleration and the optimization between hardware-software, many people are saying it is considerably faster than the Samsung Galaxy S 2
4.) As far as my knowledge goes, it isn't overclocked but its actually underclocked from its original 1.5GHz
5.) Good luck getting more than 4 hours of juice with a quad core phone with standard battery technology unless battery technology is SERIOUSLY revamped
6.) You seriously would compromise having Ice Cream Sandwich first AND vanilla android for a faster phone with the touchwiz launcher?
7.) As far as I'm concerned, dual core technology is good enough for a phone. I don't need a quad core proccesor in my phone as I have a desktop and a laptop at home. (Also, what do you really need that uses quad core technology?)
8.) The bootloader might not be unlocked with some of these other phones, the developer base will not be huge, and it'll take a long time for the software to be obsoleted on this phone, as it is a phone in the "Nexus" line by Google and as mentioned earlier, there is a huge developer base so custom roms would be built fast and I would say probably be one of the most functional
Note: This is biased as I already pre-ordered my Galaxy Nexus so some points may be exaggerated
Note 2: I feel that a dual core phone would suffice as right now as I have a Motorola Milestone (International version of the Droid), so also keep that in mind when reading my points
What are you talking about? It's already been confirmed that the Verizon LTE model comes with 32GB...
Besides, it'll be late-2012 before the quad-core phones start coming out.
If Kal'el does what Nvidia states just having that processor alone would increase battery life. Most of the work would be done on the companion core unless you need more power. We won't know exactly how well it works until we see it running in the real world.
I have to add the Nexus is UNDERCLOCKED for battery life.
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What are you talking about? It's already been confirmed that the Verizon LTE model comes with 32GB...
Besides, it'll be late-2012 before the quad-core phones start coming out.
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nothings confirmed at all....their website actually changed to 16GB
The website has been updated a second time...
http://www.google.com/nexus/#/tech-specs
says 32GB and not 16GB
I hear Verizon's version will be 32gb LTE with bigger battery for $299. Sounds perfect.
My PC is only a dualcore Intel, kinda weird with a quad core phone. Aside from gaming, not much will use all that power. Plus quads wont be start hitting until more summerish... with US carriers getting them starting Christmas. I don't think there is a need for quads ATM.
Plus I'd rather buy a quad tablet vs a phone.... that's where I do most of my gaming and core work.
Pick up the Nexus and the Quadcore Tegra3 Asus Transformer Prime. Perfect combination. Asus puts out updates as fast as Google does. Easily hand them my money in the future.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
OP, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357321 says now the web site list 32 GB only... Trolling or not, we don't know for sure
Ladrero said:
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wait until octo core phones, those are the ones to wait for
POQbum said:
wait until octo core phones, those are the ones to wait for
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Sweet! Can't wait to run [email protected] on all my idle cores.
I've said this numerous times and will probably continue to say it several more times throughout the rest of this year and all of next year but whatever...
I respect the whole bigger better faster processor thing but seriously what game or application is out there that is seriously compelling enough to actually use all that power? Sure you can get a quad core Tegra 3 summer next year but I'd put any amount of money on it that summer 2013 people will be wanting Tegra 4's with higher clock speeds or additional cores and for what? There are a few games out there that will benefit from the added power but being that they'll have a high development cost and those developers want to sell as many of their games as they can every last one of them will be able to run at satisfactory levels on this phone which begs the question: are you really going to spend hours upon hours upon hours of your life playing whatever cell phone games make use of that awesome processor or do you just want it so you can show people your benchmark results?
You do really think a quad core processor is being made in the phones to just play games? Maybe you should do some more research on the actual benefits of a quad core phone. So many people are mis informed it's not even funny.
First, the quad core processors are MADE for more effecient battery life. The Tegra 3 actually has 5 cores, one companion core which runs at a very low clock rate and the numbers of cores being used changes due to the demand of the user.
Second, the 28nm gpu's will also be a lot more effecient on battery life. Still gotta read up on that. And the next generation LTE chipsets, for all you verizon folks, is going to be a lot more effecient as well.
I'm sick of people thinking that quad core processors are going to destory battery life without actually researching them.
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You do really think a quad core processor is being made in the phones to just play games? Maybe you should do some more research on the actual benefits of a quad core phone. So many people are mis informed it's not even funny.
First, the quad core processors are MADE for more effecient battery life. The Tegra 3 actually has 5 cores, one companion core which runs at a very low clock rate and the numbers of cores being used changes due to the demand of the user.
Second, the 28nm gpu's will also be a lot more effecient on battery life. Still gotta read up on that. And the next generation LTE chipsets, for all you verizon folks, is going to be a lot more effecient as well.
I'm sick of people thinking that quad core processors are going to destory battery life without actually researching them.
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Exactly. Quads will have there place but is it reasonable to skip the Nexus now and wait... my answer is no.
Unless you have a late model phone already, the SGN seems a good buy right now.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
This is something where one could say that "if you could wait then wait until the 16 core phone comes out" ... obviously quad core phones are not available at this moment ... if you want to wait then there is always something better in the works.
With no quadcore phones available or announced yet ... I would say that go with GN LTE even though I would still wait to read some reviews and check developer base support because in the end LTE and battery are not friends and verizon is known to mess things up with the handsets. Like preloading bloat on a Nexus device. If custom ROMs is your thing (which I hope it is as you are here on XDA ) then wait for the reviews to come out.
Please do us all a favor and wait for the Quad-Core phone to come out, and then once the Quad-Core phone comes out in about 6 months, please come back to tell us that you're debating wether you should wait for Hexa-Core!
More Nexi available for us!
Edit: eh, way too sarcastic and nonsensical. I'm in a better mood now anyway. 4g is a good idea, that's majorly expanding next year. Quad cores will take a little time to impliment. Who *really* needs one anyway? Hell, I just got my first dualcore and ICS will be the only android thus far even able to begin utilizing it. Honestly, ill go out on a limb and say that the mobile phone market is the fastest developing consumer electronics sector on the planet. If you wait, something new will be just behind it. Play with the phones in the store, find one you really like and buy it. I like my rezound-defects aside-but I risk the possibility of no s off. if that's important get a phone that works within your constraints.
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Edit: eh, way too sarcastic and nonsensical. I'm in a better mood now anyway. 4g is a good idea, that's majorly expanding next year. Quad cores will take a little time to impliment. Who *really* needs one anyway? Hell, I just got my first dualcore and ICS will be the only android thus far even able to begin utilizing it. Honestly, ill go out on a limb and say that the mobile phone market is the fastest developing consumer electronics sector on the planet. If you wait, something new will be just behind it. Play with the phones in the store, find one you really like and buy it. I like my rezound-defects aside-but I risk the possibility of no s off. if that's important get a phone that works within your constraints.
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Unfortunately I couldn't quote reply this in its original all be it creative form. As I read it right before going to sleep. Strange nightmares about long fingered zombies. Back OT you should just wait for quad cores, because once that baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious...
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Doesn't it bother you? I really want the Note 2, but to think devices are shipped now with SnapDragon S4 Pro, 4 cores A15, 28NM with Adreno 320, and soon Exynox 5 Dual, also A15, 32NM and Mali-T604 really bother me. This is why I've waited for HTC's phablet, but it wasn't released yesterday
What do you think? I know the Note 2 has great performance, but soon others will have better technology... And I'm going to buy mine (if I'll buy) on December - right before CES 2013!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_(GPU)
i'm going back and forth between getting the note 2 and waiting a phone with the exynos 5250/new mali gpu.
I feel like my galaxy nexus is already as fast as it can possibly get, and I'm sure the note 2 is even faster. I don't think I will need the newer tech at least for my use I won't
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There will always be something better,in some way, than whatever you have/buy.
The note 2 is still overall the best device for me so I'm getting it.
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you will keep waiting that way. once the exynos 5 dualcore is there you will be waiting for the quadcore version. something better is always around the corner. you say you will buy a new phone in december, so just come back in december, choose the phone that is best for you at that moment, and buy it.
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Doesn't it bother you? I really want the Note 2, but to think devices are shipped now with SnapDragon S4 Pro, 4 cores A15, 28NM with Adreno 320, and soon Exynox 5 Dual, also A15, 32NM and Mali-T604 really bother me. This is why I've waited for HTC's phablet, but it wasn't released yesterday
What do you think? I know the Note 2 has great performance, but soon others will have better technology... And I'm going to buy mine (if I'll buy) on December - right before CES 2013!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_(GPU)
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In the tech world, there's always going to be the next big thing. How long should one wait is a matter of personal preference. For me, I get excited by new technology, but I always shop behind the curve, to get the best possible deal.
Here, in the US, the carriers make us sign contracts in return for subsidized pricing. So a $600-$800 phone is sold to us for $200-$300. After a few months, price drops of $50-$100 are very common. That is the time when I buy.
My first smartphone (EVO 4G) was released in April 2010 for $200. I purchased mine in Dec. 2010 for $100. Was the phone old? Sure, but did I care? No. It worked just fine, and a year later (Nov. 2011) I scored a Photon (released in April 2011) on Cragslist.
I am hoping the Note II gets released soon (October) so I can buy it in Dec./Jan. It is rumored to be around $250-$300 and by waiting a few months I can hopefully save a few $$.
It will still work and be more powerful than most devices on the market. Even if HTC, LG and others come out with a super-phone with the QC S4, it doesn't render the Note II obsolete.
So what if the HTC Quad can beat the Note II by a few points in some benchmark.
The Note has far more compelling features for me. As long as it can do the work, I don't care how fast or slow my device is. And with that 3000 maH battery, I don't foresee a problem in device usage time either.
If youre gonna have the phone a long time, 2 year + then i think you should wait and buy the top of the line.
If you change phone every year or more dont worry.. Just buy a new when a killerphone arrive
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The Note II will be a powerhouse for years, and by they time it isn't you'll already have moved on to something else.
you are all right about there will always be a newer technology around the corner, but the snapdragon S4 Pro is already here!!
i don't care about the benchmarks, i only want games to work smooth. on my Desire HD games get stuck and lag, so i want top line phone, so i could keep it for about 2 years.
sadly, im not old enough to decide by my self to sell and by a new phone, if i was, every year i would sell my current phone (in israel) and by a new one at the USA. this way i save a lot of money
the problem with the Mali-400MP is that its old... it is the GPU on the S2!!! i dont want to buy technology from more than a year ago!
GPUs and CPUs have already progressed to the point where the law of diminishing returns is starting to take effect in the realm of mobile phones. You can only push so many pixels onto a handheld screen before our eyes can't tell the difference, and the Android OS currently only needs a certain amount of gflops to do what it needs to do smoothly. I don't play PC-level demanding games on my phone, otherwise I would think differently - but right now, I'm mostly just concerned about browser preformance and the OS running without lag even with all of the widgets and programs that I need running in the background. I think the Galaxy Note II should be able to accomplish that easily. I, too, would like to see a GPU better than the Mali-400MP in the SGN2, but as long as it can handle android games and render webpages quickly, then I don't think it should be a big factor in your decision.
I think improvements in battery life, RAM, and screen are mainly what I'm looking for in this generation of phones. For the Galaxy Note II, the first two were substantially improved so I'm fairly content with that. I just don't see any better alternatives out there. A possible alternative would be the HTC 5" phone which is going to be announced soon, but I don't know all of the details on that yet. I'm not expecting much out of that phone though because, while HTC has good build quality and specs, they have been going down the path of sacrificing battery life, locking bootloaders, no SD-card, no removable battery, etc... The Galaxy Note II doesn't have these problems, and the one shortcoming (it doesn't have a Exynos 5 Dual with a Mali-T604) isn't really that big of a deal to me.
TL;DR: The SGN2 is probably the best phone you can get in the near future if you don't play extremely graphically-intensive games on your phone.
I don't play a lot of heavy games as Modern Combat 3, Asphalt 6 etc. but, when I play these games I want them to work smooth! And I'm not sure the Mali-400MP could do it in a year from now.
The new Mali-T604 will have OpenGL ES 3.0 support (Mali-400MP only supports up to 2.0). Does anyone how much this will affect performance for later releases? I would imagine that the SGN2 would still be able to play 99% of games released within the 2 years with a decent frame rate.
I don't really like playing games on my phone because the interface is holding it back in my opinion. Well, at least for FPS and anything that requires precision and more than 2 buttons.
Well my adreno 205 rage.
I can play with adreno 205 all 2012 games..
Nova 3 without problems,Max Payne without any problems..
RobyRc said:
Well my adreno 205 rage.
I can play with adreno 205 all 2012 games..
Nova 3 without problems,Max Payne without any problems..
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my phone also have Adreno 205, and its terrible! games like Jetpack Joyride and Granny Smith are laggy..
DubelBoom said:
I don't play a lot of heavy games as Modern Combat 3, Asphalt 6 etc. but, when I play these games I want them to work smooth! And I'm not sure the Mali-400MP could do it in a year from now.
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Who knows what we are doing a year from now.
Faster CPUs don't mean that much right now in some ways, because Android doesn't probably take advantage of multithreading.
It's quite possible that a year from now, threading is improved, and we see a serious performance increase with the same hardware.
Also notice this review:
http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/09/samsung-galaxy-note-ii-hands-on-bigger-got-better/
specifically this quote:
The biggest improvement, though, is the phone’s performance. It absolutely flies, and it’s incredibly smooth. Whether that’s due to the 1.6GHz quad-core Exynos processor or simply the addition of Jelly Bean (Android 4.1) we don’t know, but I tried hard to make it stutter and lag, and I couldn’t.
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This comes from a guy who said the Note was 'very not good', partially due to its lag.
You can be sure he went into the Note 2 determined to prove he's still right and the Note concept still sucks.
The fact that he failed is pretty encouraging.
- Frank
ChodTheWacko said:
Who knows what we are doing a year from now.
Faster CPUs don't mean that much right now in some ways, because Android doesn't probably take advantage of multithreading.
It's quite possible that a year from now, threading is improved, and we see a serious performance increase with the same hardware.
Also notice this review:
http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/09/samsung-galaxy-note-ii-hands-on-bigger-got-better/
specifically this quote:
This comes from a guy who said the Note was 'very not good', partially due to its lag.
You can be sure he went into the Note 2 determined to prove he's still right and the Note concept still sucks.
The fact that he failed is pretty encouraging.
- Frank
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I know its great, and the CPU is awesome, no complains. My problem is the GPU, its.......old!
But everything always gonna look old to you unless you are Apple fanboy/girl. I don't mean that negatively, but let's face it. By the time SoC manufacturor announce new chip, a phone manufacturor have to wait a few months to get their hand on the chip, then a few months later, engineering unit is out. By the time the production unit hit the shelf then that is like half a year already, by then another SoC company gonna announce something new. If all the SoC and phone manufacturors act like Apple and keep everything secret then may be you won't feel that way but that's simply because you are kept in the dark.
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But everything always gonna look old to you unless you are Apple fanboy/girl. I don't mean that negatively, but let's face it. By the time SoC manufacturor announce new chip, a phone manufacturor have to wait a few months to get their hand on the chip, then a few months later, engineering unit is out. By the time the production unit hit the shelf then that is like half a year already, by then another SoC company gonna announce something new. If all the SoC and phone manufacturors act like Apple and keep everything secret then may be you won't feel that way but that's simply because you are kept in the dark.
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I know, but the Mali-400MP was shipped with the Galaxy S2! This is very old in "smartphones years".
Man you talk about the mali400 being old like it experienced the great depression. How depressing. It is still a nice and widely supported gpu. The adreno320 is prbably better but doesnt get as much support which would be a bummer for the gamers. If you really want to wait for the t604 find somewhere else to talk and whine about that. The mali is coming whether you like it or not and i am quite sure many are happy with the decision.
need more high def music...
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I know, but the Mali-400MP was shipped with the Galaxy S2! This is very old in "smartphones years".
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It it concerns you that much, I don't know what to tell you. Just don't get the Note I guess.
I don't think anyone can prove/disprove theories on how the Note 2 will be in the future.
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So what is the deal with the launch! I have heard and read many articles about tomorrow but non with details on the launch.
Who is going to be there tomorrow?
Is this going to be indoors/outdoors on the big screen or what?
Let me know what you think.
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I read somewhere that they are going to show live event on samsung mobile youtube page.
Its in radio city hall near by times square; means close to public.
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I read somewhere that they are going to show live event on samsung mobile youtube page.
Its in radio city hall near by times square; means close to public.
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You heard right, I live around there but I'm pretty sure you need an invite just like the ps4 event.
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It's called an "embargo". That's when Samsung promises that news media will get all the juicy bits and details, but nothing must be officially released until Samsung "lifts" that embargo.
Unfortunately, it's not clear what is allowed, so even "who's who list" will not be announced until the embargo is lifted.
There's a Chinese news site that blasted through the embargo, I'm sure that Samsung will sanction them with much less news in the future. But that is just their evaluation phone, nothing to do about the launch it's self, nor the Tim Cook look alike they've hired to spoof the iPhone in comparison.. (wait, didn't say that. Nothing to see here folks)... :silly:
Link for live unveil on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IDXILsX7_QI
Going on now!!!!
Samsung does really know how to please its customers and demands
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I wasn't really impressed with the software leap but I will make the switch for the hardware and the black phone
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Just watched it live via C-Net.
Wow! I'm actually impressed. Unfortunately you had to wade through a lot of showmanship to get the features, but it was entertaining.
Simply put, it's changing the rules for the next generation of Smartphones.
The addition of 8 sensors to the phone rule out some of the features being back ported to the S3's we have. But still the answer is easy. I want one! :good:
Re: NYC - Times Square - Galaxy S4.
I'll grab that.
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Just watched it live via C-Net.
Wow! I'm actually impressed. Unfortunately you had to wade through a lot of showmanship to get the features, but it was entertaining.
Simply put, it's changing the rules for the next generation of Smartphones.
The addition of 8 sensors to the phone rule out some of the features being back ported to the S3's we have. But still the answer is easy. I want one! :good:
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I agree, the device is insane but they did not say if the US was getting a different processor variant than the international version, instead all 155 countries would get to he device at the same time at the end of April 2013.
Seny from the one and only GS3.
you guys think they'll give us U.S GS3 users an update that will give us most (if not all) of the software features of the Galaxy S 4 like they did for the Galaxy S II?
i sure hope so..lol
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I agree, the device is insane but they did not say if the US was getting a different processor variant than the international version, instead all 155 countries would get to he device at the same time at the end of April 2013.
Seny from the one and only GS3.
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The specs list shows a 1.9 GHz Quad-Core Processor / 1.6 GHz Octa-Core Processor. The selection of processor will be differed by markets. The touchscreen also works while wearing gloves.
http://wirelessandmobilenews.com/20...quad-core-1.6-octa-core-q2-release-dates.html
I'm going to be seriously pissed off if they pull a Qualcomm stunt for the US version again. Seems like that is exactly what they are doing though. I wish they would just give GSM pentaband and Exynos and through CDMA to the wolves...
A lot of the features probably wouldn't work on Qualcomm chips... I seriously doubt the 600 could keep up.
Pretty similar to the s3 just obvious improvements with the hardware. I think us gs3 users are not as impressed but what you expect to since the s3 was soo good what can come after that to impress again, the s3 put the bar so high the s4 is just a minimal update. I still don't believe android is ready for these quad core, octa-core processors.
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I think its pretty much confirmed that Samsung is going to launch a Qualcomm chip here. At the end of the video it says nothing about AWS connectivity for HSPA+ *sigh* I will wait until the 800 is commercially available and see what launches then.
While it may not be a huge software upgrade, I sure would love to have the new hardware... The LPDDR3 alone is going to blow everything else away.
EDIT: Confirmed... 1.9GHz Snapdragon Fusion Pro.
CNET
So American users are getting the shaft again with processing power. I'll wait to use my upgrade on some thing else
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So American users are getting the shaft again with processing power. I'll wait to use my upgrade on some thing else
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The 600 is no slouch but yes, we get the shaft again. Especially on T-Mobile since we can not even use it on the AWS band. at&t users at least have the option of buying unlocked.
Interestingly enough, the US launch partners are at&t, Verizon, T-Mobile, Sprint, Cricket, and U.S. Cellular. I think that's a first - Cricket getting the best of the best on launch! Their "pay 1000 dollars for a 600 dollar device" program must be being successful much like T-Mobiles Value Plan device installments have been.
I am going to pass for now. I don't mind Snapdragon chips but they get hot and they suck a lot of power.
Honestly if CDMA was dead, I bet Samsung would make an Exynos for the US but releasing two different processor models in a single market would not only piss off consumers but carriers as well. I don't ever see Samsung licensing CDMA from Qualcomm when they can just get an SoC from them instead. I think we need to be more pissed at Qualcomm for their monopoly stranglehold and their slow development of high end chips. We won't see Samsung chips until Qualcomm is brought down a few notches.
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I think its pretty much confirmed that Samsung is going to launch a Qualcomm chip here. At the end of the video it says nothing about AWS connectivity for HSPA+ *sigh* I will wait until the 800 is commercially available and see what launches then.
While it may not be a huge software upgrade, I sure would love to have the new hardware... The LPDDR3 alone is going to blow everything else away.
EDIT: Confirmed... 1.9GHz Snapdragon Fusion Pro.
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Actually its still up in the air as it says the pro fusion OR octocore on the sheet, I believe they may go the lessor route as well though as it seems to be the trend of past desisions but its not like there's any other carrier producing better than the pro anyways. Only Samsung put the 8 core out there to begin with and yes if you wait another year sure 25 other devices will be in the mix but that's what the game is and that's not gonna make a difference because there will always be a let down no matter what company is in the hot seat but is it the fact we may not get the octo over the pro which HTC is using the 600 in the One they just released and swear by really a huge let down? If they said the screen was gonna be more like the GS3 that would break the deal since they bragged about 1080.
Seny from the one and only GS3.
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i'm torn between keeping my S3 or getting the Note 2. can u guys help me with this?
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i'm torn between keeping my S3 or getting the Note 2. can u guys help me with this?
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Want a bigger screen and better battery life? If not, keep the S3.
I'm not sure what type of answer you want without knowing your preference.
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Want a bigger screen and better battery life? If not, keep the S3.
I'm not sure what type of answer you want without knowing your preference.
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Id wait for the note3 if u can
Had the S3 before the note 2. And the Note 2 is a lot faster then S3. But with the S4 coming in a month maybe you should hold off.
I love my note 2, I won't replace it until the note 3 comes out
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I was in the same predicament. I have the original Galay S 4g and was wanting to upgrade as the phone was experiencing some problems. I debated whether to wait another 7-9 months for the Note 3, but ultimately decided I could keep this phone for at least 2-3 years before needing to upgrade (especially with all the ROM support that kept my old phone alive and will most certainly keep the N2 alive for years).
I believe the N3 will have a faster processor, better battery and slightly better battery but won't be 'revolutionary' (much like the Galaxy S4). IMO, it'll take at least another generation before the phone will be significantly upgraded to make waiting worth it.
The N4 will most likely have a smaller footprint, near indestructible glass and perhaps a flex screen/wraparound. To me, that'd be worth it. Until then, I'm waiting on my Note 2 to arrive and will enjoy it for the next couple of years. Plus, the fact you can pick one up for $550-$650 new doesn't hurt either compared to the suspected $899 price the N3 will come out for.
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The N4 will most likely have a smaller footprint, near indestructible glass and perhaps a flex screen/wraparound. To me, that'd be worth it. Until then, I'm waiting on my Note 2 to arrive and will enjoy it for the next couple of years. Plus, the fact you can pick one up for $550-$650 new doesn't hurt either compared to the suspected $899 price the N3 will come out for.
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how cna u pick a Note 2 for $550 - 650? where they do that at?
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how cna u pick a Note 2 for $550 - 650? where they do that at?
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Ive been watching prices on Ebay and Craigslist and have seen prices falling to at least these levels if not lower for some models (like the Sprint version) in the past couple of weeks.
Not uncommon to find one below 550 even if you are patient.
The main difference is size. If you like 1 handed use you will hate the note 2. Unless of course you have med to large hands then it my not be an issue.
Things I noticed. I don't use the stylus or multiview anymore.
When I go to the gym I take my s3 as its easier to use hen I'm listening to music.
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I don't use the stylus either and often times I think the phone is slightly too big. I like the size of my wife's S3 better. I got the Note2 (back in November 2012) to be future-proof. With LTE around the corner I'm glad I got the Note2. If I was in the market for a new phone now, I would wait for the S4.
Personally I think the north american S3 is more like a S2.5 with the dual core processor and no LTE. The S3 should've had the Note2's quad core processor and LTE modem (Note2 is the pseudo S3). Thus the S4 is more like a S3.5 since we'll probably get the quad core instead of the octo.
As an owner of both devices, I would stay with the the S3. It's a great phone, well built, awesome specs, and a good development for it. It fits more natural in the hand then the note 2.
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I don't use the stylus either and often times I think the phone is slightly too big. I like the size of my wife's S3 better. I got the Note2 (back in November 2012) to be future-proof. With LTE around the corner I'm glad I got the Note2. If I was in the market for a new phone now, I would wait for the S4.
Personally I think the north american S3 is more like a S2.5 with the dual core processor and no LTE. The S3 should've had the Note2's quad core processor and LTE modem (Note2 is the pseudo S3). Thus the S4 is more like a S3.5 since we'll probably get the quad core instead of the octo.
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Good point about LTE. I think once the s4 comes out I'm going to sell both my s3 and note 2 and buy the s4.
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I don't use the stylus either and often times I think the phone is slightly too big. I like the size of my wife's S3 better. I got the Note2 (back in November 2012) to be future-proof. With LTE around the corner I'm glad I got the Note2. If I was in the market for a new phone now, I would wait for the S4.
Personally I think the north american S3 is more like a S2.5 with the dual core processor and no LTE. The S3 should've had the Note2's quad core processor and LTE modem (Note2 is the pseudo S3). Thus the S4 is more like a S3.5 since we'll probably get the quad core instead of the octo.
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You do realize when the s3 released it was spanking phones with quad cores like nvidia 3 Samsung quad core.
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I have both
I have both right now I am using the s3 because I dropped my note 2 and cracked the screen. But trust me you want the note2. It is definitly superior to the s3. The battery life is fantastic compared to the s3. With my s3 I had to be rooted and pull out every trick in the book just to be able to deal with it. The note2 has the best battery life ever and thats right out of the box. It is way faster and they already activated the LTE modem in it with the latest update. The s3 will not get the lte modem activated for at least another few months. To me there is no comparison its note2 all the way. I even think the note2 will be better than the s4 or at least comparable. I think the int s4 is getinng a crazy processor I think I misunderstood but it looked like it will have 4 cores running at 1.9 and another 4 running at 1.6 like ours for a total of 8 but I am not too sure of that exactly. I do know that the us version will have the same processore we have now and they are listing the same reason as last time that the new processor isnt compatable with LTE. So I think that if they have a note3 in the works it will get the int s4 processor and that will be the new phone for us note 2 users to get next. Sorry for the long winded answer.
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You do realize when the s3 released it was spanking phones with quad cores like nvidia 3 Samsung quad core.
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that's because the North American dual core S3 has 2gb of ram while the international quad core S3 and int'l HTC One X (the other quad core phone that came out at the same time) have 1gb. I don't think the north american S3 spanked quad cores, rather it kept up. plus that was 8-9 months ago. My point is that the S3 isn't very future-proof.
Did the north american S3 get multiview from carriers? I know the international version got it and you can hack-add it to the north american S3.
this is a good video comparing the dual core vs quad core S3, but it was made in Summer 2012. I'm curious what the comparison would be like now with newer apps like the Samsung Premium Suite (mutliview, etc).
I worry the S4 will suffer a similar fate. By Christmas 2013 (if not by halloween) we'll see octo-core LTE phones, making the S4's king-of-the-hill status very short lived. imagine the apps that'll come out in 2014 that'll run better on a octo than a quad.
i would get the note 2. i actually just got mine. i was looking to trade my nexus 4 and cash for the note but i find alot of people were trying to screw me over so i just went to tmobile the other day and got it myself. anyways i love stock android and i said i would never had another samsung phone after i had the original galaxy s on sprint but so far i'm liking it. the battery life seems good so far but i'm wait after a week to comment because the battery needs to condition first. i love the multi screen view. i used it to get directions from maps and send them in a text. very handy to me. i wont use it everyday but its there when i need it. plus i wanted to get a sdcard capable phone. also i wanted to future proof myself since lte comes to my area. i get great tmobile service where i live. the S4 and note 3 will have 1080p screens and such and faster processors (only really matters if you do intense things on the phone. i have finally learned that) so taking this into account. i decided on not waiting and i got the note 2. we will never had the latest tech because its new one day and old the next in the tech world.
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i would get the note 2. i actually just got mine. i was looking to trade my nexus 4 and cash for the note but i find alot of people were trying to screw me over so i just went to tmobile the other day and got it myself. anyways i love stock android and i said i would never had another samsung phone after i had the original galaxy s on sprint but so far i'm liking it. the battery life seems good so far but i'm wait after a week to comment because the battery needs to condition first. i love the multi screen view. i used it to get directions from maps and send them in a text. very handy to me. i wont use it everyday but its there when i need it. plus i wanted to get a sdcard capable phone. also i wanted to future proof myself since lte comes to my area. i get great tmobile service where i live. the S4 and note 3 will have 1080p screens and such and faster processors (only really matters if you do intense things on the phone. i have finally learned that) so taking this into account. i decided on not waiting and i got the note 2. we will never had the latest tech because its new one day and old the next in the tech world.
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When you get a new device you're always excited over it. I felt the same about my note 2 a few months ago and praised it. For me multi screen I thought was awesome til I realized it is cumbersome as it didnt launch an app in split view right away. I had to run one app first through multi view then run the other app so it can split. And multiview apps are limited in stock form. Spen was great too as I like to photoshop a lot and that I can write notes and even converts my writing to actual text. Now I don't really use it anymore as I type faster with swiftkey than writing and i dont photoshop as much. Most of the time I forget I have a stylus lol. All the hover stuff I like but thats gonna be in the s4 too which is only a month away so as far as waiting, it isn't too long from now. If we're talking several months then that's a different story IMO. I think the OP should wait it out....
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New to this forum, coming over from the Vibrant. Hello everyone!
I just got my note 2 from tmobile. Best upgrade price they could give me was $369, but by adding the phones to my plan rather than upgrading, I was able to get them for 199 each (after rebate.). Then I cancelled my old lines. New numbers, but who cares. That's what I paid for my vibes years ago, and they're running great still (on pacman 4.2.2).
I love this phone. About the only thing I don't like is the bloat, but it doesn't seem to affect it. Maybe I'll root it just to get rid of that, but honestly I don't think it needs it. Battery is awesome as it is.
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Did the north american S3 get multiview from carriers? I know the international version got it and you can hack-add it to the north american S3.
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can u please post a link that enables mutliview in the S3 for USA tmobile?