Where did my "system update" button go? - Sprint Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just noticed this, but under my settings, the system update button has gone MIA. Any idea where it went or how to get it back? I can't update my profile without it (at least not easily).

pilotmills said:
Just noticed this, but under my settings, the system update button has gone MIA. Any idea where it went or how to get it back? I can't update my profile without it (at least not easily).
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I also noticed this. In the sprint zone app, when i try to update through there, it says that my device has been modified in an unauthorized way. I installed wanam exposed and enabled fake system status to show official. This allowed me to keep checking for the update without telling me it been modified.
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I have mine...
Did you root?

Yep, rooted. Not sure why that would have caused it to disappear. I can't think of anything I've tweaked with xposed or wanam that would have caused it to disappear.

pilotmills said:
Yep, rooted. Not sure why that would have caused it to disappear. I can't think of anything I've tweaked with xposed or wanam that would have caused it to disappear.
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I'm not sure... I am rooted as well.

Seeing the same on Sprint Note Edge:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-edge/help/sprint-915p-note-edge-update-menu-t2970118
I'm rooted, but don't know why it would make System update disappear. No problems like this in any previous rooted phones.
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snovvman said:
Seeing the same on Sprint Note Edge:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-edge/help/sprint-915p-note-edge-update-menu-t2970118
I'm rooted, but don't know why it would make System update disappear. No problems like this in any previous rooted phones.
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I did some more testing. This problem has to be related to something that got installed into /system.
Case 1: Factory reset with Xposed, Better Battery Status, and a few other items intact: No System update menu
Case 2: Disable Xposed (removed framework): Still no System update menu
Case 3: Flash the same rooted deodexed ROM with nothing else added: System update menu is there.

Okay.... I did more testing.
1) I re-flashed the stock rooted ROM. It went through the activation, Sprint Zone, Sprint ID, and bloat installation. Afterwards, System update was there (as before).
2) Restored my /data partition over what I just did above, then reinstalled Xposed, Better Battery Status, GSam Battery, AppOps Xposed, had SuperSU update the binary, and rebooted. System update is still there.
(All the Sprint bloat was gone because my /data backup overwrote what was installed in step 1)
Background: When I first noticed that the menu was missing, my phone had never previously went through the formal activation process. I had the phone on WiFi only for a couple of weeks while I rooted, and set up my apps. When I called Sprint, I had to use the "Activate this phone" menu to pull down the provision.
So now, my theory is that, during the initial setup/activation/Sprint Zone/Sprint ID install process, one of those steps inserts the menu item into Settings. Unless that is properly completed, the System update won't be there.

I made an interesting finding after more testing. When I open Wanam, the Update system menu goes away on the next reboot. At that point, I have to restore from Nandroid to get the menu entry back.
At the same time, thuddome in this post says that he has no problems with Wanam.
So the plot thickens. I restored the phone to a state where the menu is there. I learned that so long as I do not open Wanam, the menu stays. To test, I uninstalled Wanam via Xposed, rebooted, reinstalled Wanam, rebooted, and opened Wanam. Bam--the menu disappears. Wanam does/writes something to the /system partition on opening that makes my menu disappears.
I'm totally lost now.
For you who have the missing menu, are you running Wanam? If you can restore to factory state (will need to flash the ROM, not just wipe) and duplicate my findings?

Xposed is fine to use, but as soon as you use the waman module then you lose it.

Guys, the Sprint system update is a csc feature. If the smali code for this feature gets altered then it breaks the csc feature. This is why it disappears. Something is breaking the csc chain of command in one of the system files/folders.

Androidwarrior said:
Xposed is fine to use, but as soon as you use the waman module then you lose it.
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To confirm my observation, you've experienced the same thing on a Sprint device?
tx_dbs_tx said:
Guys, the Sprint system update is a csc feature. If the smali code for this feature gets altered then it breaks the csc feature. This is why it disappears. Something is breaking the csc chain of command in one of the system files/folders.
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At this point, my only recourse is to restore to a "pre-launching Wanam" backup via recovery. If this is a CSC issue (somehow Wanam on first launch alters the CSC), is there a way to backup the CSC and restore when needed? Anyone know? I looked in TiBu, but didn't see a CSC-specific backup. In searching for CSC backup/restore, I keep finding EFS backup. but EFS, as far as I can tell, does not contain CSC.
It would be great to backup CSC and restore it when I needed.

snovvman said:
To confirm my observation, you've experienced the same thing on a Sprint device?
At this point, my only recourse is to restore to a "pre-launching Wanam" backup via recovery. If this is a CSC issue (somehow Wanam on first launch alters the CSC), is there a way to backup the CSC and restore when needed? Anyone know? I looked in TiBu, but didn't see a CSC-specific backup. In searching for CSC backup/restore, I keep finding EFS backup. but EFS, as far as I can tell, does not contain CSC.
It would be great to backup CSC and restore it when I needed.
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You can try Galaxy tools and enable that specific csc feature... if it's included (I can't remember at this second). Otherwise wait until I finish my NK2 Hybrid Edition base rom and this should not be an issue. hopefully i'll have it finished late tonight. I have been comparing changes throughout the rom and noticed several things different so I will have to pay close attention to this update because Sprint/Samsung made some changes to the bootloader and it does handle csc stuff. I'm not going to flash the NK2 tar because I don't want to update my bootloader because it looks like they are enabling itson snooping on our phones and I'm not having it. The bootloader can effect several thing on your phone such as wifi and just about anything else and if an older bootloader is used with an updated system, it can cause problems... not always but it definitely can cause problems. Sometimes we have no choice but to update the bootloader so that it fixes some issues. I'm not saying this is your problem, but since the bootloader does handle csc files on your device, it's very likely that this problem is happening for some people and not others simply because some updated via OTA ot the NK2 tar and some might have flashed the stock rooted NK2 rom in the dev section. Anyway, just be patient, I'll be updatint my rom tonight for those interested.

tx_dbs_tx said:
You can try Galaxy tools and enable that specific csc feature... if it's included (I can't remember at this second). Otherwise wait until I finish my NK2 Hybrid Edition base rom and this should not be an issue. hopefully i'll have it finished late tonight. I have been comparing changes throughout the rom and noticed several things different so I will have to pay close attention to this update because Sprint/Samsung made some changes to the bootloader and it does handle csc stuff. I'm not going to flash the NK2 tar because I don't want to update my bootloader because it looks like they are enabling itson snooping on our phones and I'm not having it. The bootloader can effect several thing on your phone such as wifi and just about anything else and if an older bootloader is used with an updated system, it can cause problems... not always but it definitely can cause problems. Sometimes we have no choice but to update the bootloader so that it fixes some issues. I'm not saying this is your problem, but since the bootloader does handle csc files on your device, it's very likely that this problem is happening for some people and not others simply because some updated via OTA ot the NK2 tar and some might have flashed the stock rooted NK2 rom in the dev section. Anyway, just be patient, I'll be updatint my rom tonight for those interested.
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Thanks for the detailed info and explanation. My device is actually the Note Edge, but is having similar issues. Your point about the bootloader is very interesting. This may be the reason that some Sprint users are not having the same issue. The Edge is currently on NK1 and I'm on the NK1 bootloader. I'll give Galaxy Tools a look. I look forward to what you'll learn on NK2, I'm sure that will transfer to the Edge. Cheers.
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tx_dbs_tx said:
You can try Galaxy tools and enable that specific csc feature... if it's included (I can't remember at this second).
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Preliminary--GT also seems to break the menu. I need to do more testing to see whether it was just by launching GT or it was me poking around the CSC.

Excuse me if I am completely wrong in my recollection (i fixed this a while back and didnt think much of it). I had this problem after installing Wanam. I beleive (and again excuse me if im wrong) i left wanam installed and uninstalled/reinstalled xposed framework.

snovvman said:
To confirm my observation, you've experienced the same thing on a Sprint device?
At this point, my only recourse is to restore to a "pre-launching Wanam" backup via recovery. If this is a CSC issue (somehow Wanam on first launch alters the CSC), is there a way to backup the CSC and restore when needed? Anyone know? I looked in TiBu, but didn't see a CSC-specific backup. In searching for CSC backup/restore, I keep finding EFS backup. but EFS, as far as I can tell, does not contain CSC.
It would be great to backup CSC and restore it when I needed.
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Yes I've experienced this on my sprint note 4. As long as i don't enable the waman module then I'm okay.

FYI the latest Wanam update does not solve this problem....

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Rooted S-off and still getting ota update

My Dinc is rooted S-off and I'm still getting ota update notification. I tried to run the update and it does nothing....
If you're on a stock (even rooted) ROM, you'll get the ota notification. But it requires stock recovery to flash. I haven't looked into the actual zip, so I don't know if it'll flash via CWM or not. It used to not, and I doubt it's changed.
PonsAsinorem said:
If you're on a stock (even rooted) ROM, you'll get the ota notification. But it requires stock recovery to flash. I haven't looked into the actual zip, so I don't know if it'll flash via CWM or not. It used to not, and I doubt it's changed.
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That is correct, the ota will not work unless you are complete stock. Meaning stock recovery, all original and unmodified apps and framework files, and you must still be odexed.
If you just want to stop the update nag you can go to /system with a root file explorer and open for editing the build.prop file. Look for a line that starts like this " ro.build.fingerprint= ", change the whole line to look like this without the quotes " ro.build.fingerprint=verizon_wwe/inc/inc:2.3.4/GRJ22/389630.15:user/release-keys ". This tricks the update server into thinking you already have the latest update.
If you want a rom with the new update, there is the Stock 4.08.605.15 Rom and Touch of blue. One is pure rooted stock, and TOB is mostly stock but debloated and lightly themed.
I need to get the latest OTA update, but can I only get it through a new Rom or can I just gets new OTA update to work with my current Rom?
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Richard6292 said:
I need to get the latest OTA update, but can I only get it through a new Rom or can I just gets new OTA update to work with my current Rom?
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You have to be complete stock to sucessfully update ota. Just flash the stock 4.08.605.15 rom in the dev section. You'd be getting the same thing, without all the hastle of ruu'ing, updating ota, and then rerooting.
Thanks for the info! But after that, if I were to relfash my current Rom I'd just be back in the same situation right?:/ I wish my current Rom would be update but the dev'r went away..
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Richard6292 said:
Thanks for the info! But after that, if I were to relfash my current Rom I'd just be back in the same situation right?:/ I wish my current Rom would be update but the dev'r went away..
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Right, if your current rom is not based on 4.08.605.15, then you will get the ota notification. Even if you got the actuall ota to install, it would more than likley mess up the rom, and then you would have to reflash the rom and you would be right back where you started. If you want to stay on your current rom but stop the ota notification, do as i said a couple posts above and edit the build.prop file to make the update server think you already have the latest ota. What rom are you currently on?
Ok, thanks for the help!!
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I am using TOB so can I install the update without messing things up?
joeyz400 said:
I am using TOB so can I install the update without messing things up?
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No tob has stock apps removed and is deodexed. The ota checks to make sure all original apps and files are present and unchanged. If you wabt to get the actuall ota tou need to ruu to stock 4.06.605.3 and then ota to 4.08.695.2 and then ota to 4.08.605.15. However tob V2.1 has been updated to 4.08.605.15 already.
Experience with this OTA update
I can't post yet to the development forums and I saw that cmlusco was on here so just wanted to share my experience. I have an SMOLED Droid Incredible and I'm rooted, S-OFF on the latest CWM recovery and I was using wildstang's stock ROM from the last update back in November 2011. I got the notification, searched the forums, and ended up installing cmlusco's stock deodexed ROM, after doing all the requisite wipes and checking the md5. My initial experience was great, apart from once when the phone simply died with a black screen and was completely unresponsive. Battery pull solved that. After I was done getting all my apps back on there (mostly via downloading and then for some of them just restoring the data from Titanium Backup), I did a Titanium Backup and a nandroid backup in the recovery. After all of these were done, I started having quite a few freeze issues. I think I had three in a row before I had one while in the process of connecting the phone to my computer. Had to do the battery pull method each time but the last time, the phone must have been right in the middle of mounting to my laptop because all of my downloaded apps were "gone". As in, they were not in the app drawer and all the icons were the default Android icon on the home screens. I think something happened with the freeze in the middle of the mount. If I reinstalled an app from the market and tried to restart it, it force closed. Then, if I uninstalled and reinstalled it, it did work. But I was still getting some force closes so I figured it might just be easier to flash the ROM again, which is what I did.
So now I'm back up and running, and mostly everything is okay. I did get another freeze while installing an app and waited for a while but since the phone was still unresponsive, I did the battery pull again. Stuff is working but I thought I'd share my experience and see if anyone else had something similar happen. Oh, by the way, I also updated to the latest radio but hadn't the first time I used this ROM. And cmlusco, thanks a lot for posting that and being very patient in the forums. If this ROM fails again, I might try Touch of Blue.
cmlusco said:
That is correct, the ota will not work unless you are complete stock. Meaning stock recovery, all original and unmodified apps and framework files, and you must still be odexed.
If you just want to stop the update nag you can go to /system with a root file explorer and open for editing the build.prop file. Look for a line that starts like this " ro.build.fingerprint= ", change the whole line to look like this without the quotes " ro.build.fingerprint=verizon_wwe/inc/inc:2.3.4/GRJ22/389630.15:user/release-keys ". This tricks the update server into thinking you already have the latest update.
If you want a rom with the new update, there is the Stock 4.08.605.15 Rom and Touch of blue. One is pure rooted stock, and TOB is mostly stock but debloated and lightly themed.
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Thanks, I changed that line and the annoying system update is gone
cmlusco said:
That is correct, the ota will not work unless you are complete stock. Meaning stock recovery, all original and unmodified apps and framework files, and you must still be odexed.
If you just want to stop the update nag you can go to /system with a root file explorer and open for editing the build.prop file. Look for a line that starts like this " ro.build.fingerprint= ", change the whole line to look like this without the quotes " ro.build.fingerprint=verizon_wwe/inc/inc:2.3.4/GRJ22/389630.15:user/release-keys ". This tricks the update server into thinking you already have the latest update.
If you want a rom with the new update, there is the Stock 4.08.605.15 Rom and Touch of blue. One is pure rooted stock, and TOB is mostly stock but debloated and lightly themed.
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So, I edited the "ro.build.fingerprint" line, and I'm still getting the notification... I've tried the "fix" of renaming the /etc/security/otacerts.zip file to otacerts.zip.bak, which some suggest. Hell, I even ended up deleting the whole file. When that didn't work, I froze /system/app/updater.apk. Still nothing, so I deleted that file as well. Nothing is listed in my /cache folder, where some people have noted that the download stores itself. I had the 4.08.605.15 update before, and it caused my phone to freeze a lot, and randomly reboot over and over for hours. During those reboots, half my apps got deleted as well.
Needless to say, I don't want the stupid update!! But nothing I can find on any forum is stopping my phone from getting the notification every 15-20 minutes. I've tried flashing a few different ROMs, but my phone gets stuck in a boot cycle with any of them. Just the other day, I went to flash the newest CyanogenMod through CWM, and it just kept showing the blue android guy on a skateboard for (no joke) about 3 hours. I ended up pulling the battery and flashing my stock recovery.
Please let me know if there's anything else anyone can think of that might stop the notification. I'm still 3 months out from being eligible to upgrade my phone, and I'd rather not deal with the notification popping up over and over and over for that time
Thanks
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So, I edited the "ro.build.fingerprint" line, and I'm still getting the notification... I've tried the "fix" of renaming the /etc/security/otacerts.zip file to otacerts.zip.bak, which some suggest. Hell, I even ended up deleting the whole file. When that didn't work, I froze /system/app/updater.apk. Still nothing, so I deleted that file as well. Nothing is listed in my /cache folder, where some people have noted that the download stores itself. I had the 4.08.605.15 update before, and it caused my phone to freeze a lot, and randomly reboot over and over for hours. During those reboots, half my apps got deleted as well.
Needless to say, I don't want the stupid update!! But nothing I can find on any forum is stopping my phone from getting the notification every 15-20 minutes. I've tried flashing a few different ROMs, but my phone gets stuck in a boot cycle with any of them. Just the other day, I went to flash the newest CyanogenMod through CWM, and it just kept showing the blue android guy on a skateboard for (no joke) about 3 hours. I ended up pulling the battery and flashing my stock recovery.
Please let me know if there's anything else anyone can think of that might stop the notification. I'm still 3 months out from being eligible to upgrade my phone, and I'd rather not deal with the notification popping up over and over and over for that time
Thanks
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make sure your file explorer is in r/w (read/write) mode or the changes that you made will not save. there is a button in the upper right part of root explorer if that is that app you are using.
nschiwy said:
make sure your file explorer is in r/w (read/write) mode or the changes that you made will not save. there is a button in the upper right part of root explorer if that is that app you are using.
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Also you must be s-off, or adb pull edit and push the file while in recovery.
Try flashing this. Got rid of the nagging when I was on GB. Should take care of it.
http://db.tt/zPhTShuA
sorry...I was on the phone...
nschiwy said:
make sure your file explorer is in r/w (read/write) mode or the changes that you made will not save. there is a button in the upper right part of root explorer if that is that app you are using.
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It is definitely in r/w mode. I restarted the phone, cleared cache, then checked the file again to make sure the edit was still there. And it was...
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Also you must be s-off, or adb pull edit and push the file while in recovery.
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I've had s-off since a few days after I got the phone last year.
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Try flashing this. Got rid of the nagging when I was on GB. Should take care of it.
http://db.tt/zPhTShuA
sorry...I was on the phone...
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I restored from a prior backup to undo all the changes I made, so I'm going to try each of the methods again, and if nothing works, I'll flash this.
Thank you all. I've been relying too much on "one-click" solutions in the past, but I'm now trying to get more into the actual dev side of things, so I can help out with this kind of stuff as well
ggoodman1022 said:
It is definitely in r/w mode. I restarted the phone, cleared cache, then checked the file again to make sure the edit was still there. And it was...
I've had s-off since a few days after I got the phone last year.
I restored from a prior backup to undo all the changes I made, so I'm going to try each of the methods again, and if nothing works, I'll flash this.
Thank you all. I've been relying too much on "one-click" solutions in the past, but I'm now trying to get more into the actual dev side of things, so I can help out with this kind of stuff as well
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I retried all the methods, and flashed the file mentioned above. Still no luck
Stupid notification pops up over and over and over... Guess I may either have to update, or deal with the notification until October when I can upgrade my phone. Or try flashing a custom ROM, even though I like the stock ROM
You could always flash cmlusco's touch of blue ROM which is an optimized version of the latest OTA, so you wouldn't have to worry about update notifications on that one for sure (at least on the latest version).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492720
but there are lots of options here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=638

AT&T 4.1.2 OTA Update Issues

The update to 4.1.2 on the AT&T S3 was released a few days ago and I am still unable to do the udpate. I have tried deleting the data from Google Services Framework, I have tried on Wifi or the data network, I've tried Kies (not on Kies yet apparently), I've done the clock trick, I've tried every conceivable idea I could think of to get the OTA update, but it just wont show up. I press software update and it checks and after a few minutes it says "Software Update Interrupted." I am rooted and on the stock ROM with stock recovery. Only superuser. Somebody please help! Thanks, Loren
Loren Railsback said:
The update to 4.1.2 on the AT&T S3 was released a few days ago and I am still unable to do the udpate. I have tried deleting the data from Google Services Framework, I have tried on Wifi or the data network, I've tried Kies (not on Kies yet apparently), I've done the clock trick, I've tried every conceivable idea I could think of to get the OTA update, but it just wont show up. I press software update and it checks and after a few minutes it says "Software Update Interrupted." I am rooted and on the stock ROM with stock recovery. Only superuser. Somebody please help! Thanks, Loren
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I'm having the same problem!
Just use the update.zip in the general section. It works with stock recovery but you'll need an external SD.
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Just use the update.zip in the general section. It works with stock recovery but you'll need an external SD.
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Ok thanks. Will I keep my data or will it be like an Odin flash? I would like to not have to backup stuff...
It will wipe your apps and your internal sd card.
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It will wipe your apps and your internal sd card.
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So there is no way to update without wiping my data other than the official OTA update which for some reason won't show up?
The ota can take some time to get to everyone. I tried going the official route, but it's a 200mb download and it seemed to be downloading on dial up speed. The update servers were def getting hammered. Just be patient. If you don't want to be patient, pull everything off your internal card, backup your apps on an external sd, use the update.zip method. Those are your choices.
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Just use the update.zip in the general section. It works with stock recovery but you'll need an external SD.
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So can you provide a link? I can't find it. The link here I keep finding on the internet says its for GS3, but then when you go to the link, it says GS4 on the top left corner: file ID 23060877489997375 on android file host (It wont let me post links here to show you)
I even called AT&T about this and they said my phone is an Unlocked version. .I'm like what are you talking about I have gotten OTA's before.. then I remembered I had to send it to Samsung for warranty repair.
A link to the STOCK I747UCDMG2 would be awesome. Even better if it didn't wipe the device, but no big deal I can just root and use titanium. Should I unroot before running the update? (And the problem started before I rooted.. It keeps saying software update interrupted,)
Thanks
If you just got to have the update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387423
Like mentioned, it's going to wipe the phone, so backup anything need first; pictures, apps, messages, etc.
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s3 4.1.2 update interrupted. shows 4.1.1 version up to date ever since
So I tried to update my at&t s3 to 4.1.2 last week when I realized it was available, everything seemed to go well until it did not stop downloading the update when it reached the total file size, I let it keep going and do its thing and finally it stopped at 367 MB instead of 229 that it showed. Then it froze and showed that the update was interrupted, and ever since, when I tried to update it again, it tells me that my current version is up to date, it's been over a week and nothing has changed. I looked all over online and no one has really had this problem but me. Then I came across this site, it may be wishful thinking, but if anyone has any idea on what I can do to get this update, I'd be forever grateful! P.S. I have done factory reset and still with no luck..
If you are stock and have twrp flash the update zip in the original post here, then flash the other zip several pages in to update the bootloader and modem. I did it without wiping data and everything was just like before except I now have the update. Didn't lose any of my settings, apps, etc...I don't usually recommend a dirty flash but I have had zero problems with either my daughter's or my phone since doing this. Even my root was retained. Here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2388065
Oh, I also should mention that I've been running this way since that post first came out which has been a while. Plenty of time for side effects to show.
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Just noticed they've put the other post with the bootloader update in the original post as well, so now it's all easily accessable on the first page.
Same issue. Cant update. Keeps saying update was interupted.

[Q] Trying to update phone with I317UCAMH3 and it fails

I have a stock ATT Galaxy Note II except that I am rooted so I could use Titanium Backup and a few other things. Also I hid or deleted some ATT Bloatware (not sure which ones -- probably should have recorded what I did). Anyway, the previous OTA update from ATT worked fine. But this time the update to I317UCAMH3 always fails. It downloads, reboots and then fails about when it says 25%. I have been searching here for ideas what to do. Tried to unhide the ATT apps that I could find. That didn't solve the problem. Used Triangle Away to get the counters back. Still no luck.
Did a lot of searching on threads here on what to do but none of the suggestions seemed to work. I think I still have stock recovery but not sure. Is there any way to tell?
Any ideas? Do I need to reinstall the ATT ROM from scratch (including reinstalling apps, etc)?
Based on what I am hearing from friends, I expect ATT to soon release the 4.3 update for this phone. So I think I would like to be stock for now plus root.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
-- Charley
Your answer is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448927
I'll be doing this shortly as well.
I had the same trouble. I made a TiBU backup of user apps and their data (no system apps or system data). I made the zip file also.
Then I did a factory reset. After that, the phone completed the update.
charley000 said:
I have a stock ATT Galaxy Note II except that I am rooted so I could use Titanium Backup and a few other things. Also I hid or deleted some ATT Bloatware (not sure which ones -- probably should have recorded what I did). Anyway, the previous OTA update from ATT worked fine. But this time the update to I317UCAMH3 always fails. It downloads, reboots and then fails about when it says 25%. I have been searching here for ideas what to do. Tried to unhide the ATT apps that I could find. That didn't solve the problem. Used Triangle Away to get the counters back. Still no luck.
Did a lot of searching on threads here on what to do but none of the suggestions seemed to work. I think I still have stock recovery but not sure. Is there any way to tell?
Any ideas? Do I need to reinstall the ATT ROM from scratch (including reinstalling apps, etc)?
Based on what I am hearing from friends, I expect ATT to soon release the 4.3 update for this phone. So I think I would like to be stock for now plus root.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
-- Charley
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The MH3 OTA update will fail if any of the files it attempts to patch or replace is missing on the phone. It also expects to see the stock version of kernel, modem, and recovery from whichever firmware it detects - typically MC3 or MA4.
If you don't have those missing system apps available for restore in TiBu, your only current option to get to MH3 is to use Odin to load UCALJ2 or UCAMA4 firmware (available from sammobile.com), then run the OTA process. This will wipe your phone back to pure stock and ymmv on what tibu can restore (stay away from restoring system apps, use caution when restoring data along with any other apps - i.e. only when necessary).
Lastly - I wouldn't be surprised to see the 4.3 update come with a locked bootloader. There may be a way to get into that firmware with root intact but the current state of the sgs4 is a pretty good indicator of what to expect when 4.3 arrives on our att i317.
rangercaptain said:
I had the same trouble. I made a TiBU backup of user apps and their data (no system apps or system data). I made the zip file also.
Then I did a factory reset. After that, the phone completed the update.
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Well tried that. Still fails.
I suspect there is some app or setting that I have to have for ATT to allow me to do it. Others have commented that you need all the ATT Bloatware and other stuff. I am not sure what I have wrong.
Read back one.. I was typing while you were sending
Zen Arcade said:
The MH3 OTA update will fail if any of the files it attempts to patch or replace is missing on the phone. It also expects to see the stock version of kernel, modem, and recovery from whichever firmware it detects - typically MC3 or MA4.
If you don't have those missing system apps available for restore in TiBu, your only current option to get to MH3 is to use Odin to load UCALJ2 or UCAMA4 firmware (available from sammobile.com), then run the OTA process. This will wipe your phone back to pure stock and ymmv on what tibu can restore (stay away from restoring system apps, use caution when restoring data along with any other apps - i.e. only when necessary).
Lastly - I wouldn't be surprised to see the 4.3 update come with a locked bootloader. There may be a way to get into that firmware with root intact but the current state of the sgs4 is a pretty good indicator of what to expect when 4.3 arrives on our att i317.
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Thanks. Probably the best thing for me to do is just to wait until after 4.3 comes out. By that point, you guys will have figured it all out. Then I can either go from scratch (Odin to stock and the update) or I can pick the best ROM from here. I will probably do the latter.
I am leaning towards one of the ROMs that is close to stock such as Clean Rom or Jedi unless someone has a better suggestion.
Thanks everyone for your help.
Zen Arcade said:
The MH3 OTA update will fail if any of the files it attempts to patch or replace is missing on the phone. It also expects to see the stock version of kernel, modem, and recovery from whichever firmware it detects - typically MC3 or MA4.
If you don't have those missing system apps available for restore in TiBu, your only current option to get to MH3 is to use Odin to load UCALJ2 or UCAMA4 firmware (available from sammobile.com), then run the OTA process. This will wipe your phone back to pure stock and ymmv on what tibu can restore (stay away from restoring system apps, use caution when restoring data along with any other apps - i.e. only when necessary).
Lastly - I wouldn't be surprised to see the 4.3 update come with a locked bootloader. There may be a way to get into that firmware with root intact but the current state of the sgs4 is a pretty good indicator of what to expect when 4.3 arrives on our att i317.
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Thanks for this info, very helpful.
Though I am rooted and on a custom ROM and all that, I'm far from an expert on this stuff. I plan on trying the AT&T 4.3 update when it drops, but I am also currently contemplating trying to go to MH3 stock, and maybe then re-root on MH3 and make a full Rooted stock backup available "just in case"...
With that in mind - Question: Can you tell me if getting the stock LJ2 or MA4 firmware via sammobile and loading it via Odin takes care of *completely* "stock"-ing your phone, all in one shot, including resetting the flash counter to "0" and all that good stuff? OR - would I still need to then CF-Auto-Root, Triangle Away, and then do a "Full Unroot" in SuperSU to accomplish all this? Just want to make sure I get it right
Thanks in advance. Been searching but have not found a clear-cut answer to this just yet.
Anonymously_Unknown said:
Your answer is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448927
I'll be doing this shortly as well.
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Will this work if I have TWRP installed?

[Q] CyanogenMod not getiing installed. SuperSU Crashing.

Hello All,
I am a beginner to all this stuff. I wanted to root my phone after seeing OnePlus One running on CyanogenMod. So, first I tried to directly install the Mod using the softwares downloaded from Cyanogen's website. But the software gave the error "Unsupported Firmware". Then I researched a bit on manually installing the mod. I followed the instructions.
- First I rooted my phone with Odin 3.09v
- Installed ROM Manger on my phone (Meanwhile the SuperSU app kept on crashing)
- Somehow I managed to install ClockworkMod (What I did was downloaded SuperSU apk, installed it again. It started working and then, not losing the chance I installed ClockworkMod).
- Then I tried to install CyanogenMod through ROM Manager
- My phone re-booted and then gave a error "Can't install package on incompatible data".
- I'm having the latest snapshot version on CyanogenMod.
- Then I left the things as it is. No rooting, unrooting, etc.
- So, now I tried to take backup of my current ROM, in case something happens at least I'll be having something with me to recover
- I used ROM Manager to take backup. But it gave the error "Can't create the image"
So, now I'm stuck between middle of nowhere. Please help me out to reach to some point.
svikramajit said:
Hello All,
I am a beginner to all this stuff. I wanted to root my phone after seeing OnePlus One running on CyanogenMod. So, first I tried to directly install the Mod using the softwares downloaded from Cyanogen's website. But the software gave the error "Unsupported Firmware". Then I researched a bit on manually installing the mod. I followed the instructions.
- First I rooted my phone with Odin 3.09v
- Installed ROM Manger on my phone (Meanwhile the SuperSU app kept on crashing)
- Somehow I managed to install ClockworkMod (What I did was downloaded SuperSU apk, installed it again. It started working and then, not losing the chance I installed ClockworkMod).
- Then I tried to install CyanogenMod through ROM Manager
- My phone re-booted and then gave a error "Can't install package on incompatible data".
- I'm having the latest snapshot version on CyanogenMod.
- Then I left the things as it is. No rooting, unrooting, etc.
- So, now I tried to take backup of my current ROM, in case something happens at least I'll be having something with me to recover
- I used ROM Manager to take backup. But it gave the error "Can't create the image"
So, now I'm stuck between middle of nowhere. Please help me out to reach to some point.
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Ok, first I think your SuperSu is not working properly. Open the Supersu app to see if it needs to update binaries. If it continues to crash, go into recovery manually (not using rom manager) and flash the latest SuperSu. Wipe Cache, go to advanced and Wipe Dalvik. Reboot. Your phone will say "android is upgrading" for a bit. Once it's booted up, go back into the supersu app and see if it needs to update binaries, if so- let it update, if not- move on. Here's a link to download SuperSu 2.02
Go back into recovery manually and select backup and restore-> backup to sdcard (or sdcard1, external sd, is my preference) This will start the backup process.
Once that is done, you need to find the CyanogenMod file specific to your phone, then you can enter recovery and flash it.
If you have trouble entering recovery, you can flash a new one via recovery or with odin.
Hello absinthesummer,
I followed every instruction you told. Now I'm done till creating backup. The problem now I'm facing is this 'Status 7' error. It says "Can't install package on incompatible data.....". Now what to do?
Status 7 is a very specific error. It means your recovery is out of date. Get the absolute newest you can find and try again. This is good news though, you've got progress!
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Edit: flash the latest recovery you can find via Odin. You probably won't be able to do it in recovery while you're getting the status 7 error.
absinthesummer said:
Status 7 is a very specific error. It means your recovery is out of date. Get the absolute newest you can find and try again. This is good news though, you've got progress!
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Edit: flash the latest recovery you can find via Odin. You probably won't be able to do it in recovery while you're getting the status 7 error.
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No, I've got the latest recovery. But I figured out the problem. It was with the package I downloaded. The CM 11 M9 version was giving errors. I researched and tried few fixes, but still it didn't work.
The fixes I tried :-
1. Deleting some coding lines from the updater-script file. But this fix gave the status 6 error.
2. Changing the updater-script file format to UNIX format. Then again it gave the status 7 error.
So, what I did, when I had no more brain to fix it, I downloaded the CM 11 M6 version and tried installing it. And VOILA! It worked. Then I updated it to M9 version through phone. Now it's working. Though it has some bugs. And some features are missing too that I wanted badly.
svikramajit said:
No, I've got the latest recovery. But I figured out the problem. It was with the package I downloaded. The CM 11 M9 version was giving errors. I researched and tried few fixes, but still it didn't work.
The fixes I tried :-
1. Deleting some coding lines from the updater-script file. But this fix gave the status 6 error.
2. Changing the updater-script file format to UNIX format. Then again it gave the status 7 error.
So, what I did, when I had no more brain to fix it, I downloaded the CM 11 M6 version and tried installing it. And VOILA! It worked. Then I updated it to M9 version through phone. Now it's working. Though it has some bugs. And some features are missing too that I wanted badly.
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Awesome! I'm glad you got it working. You can also try comparing the two files to see what's different, or maybe swap the updater script. Maybe you'll be able to get the one you wanted working with a little modification
absinthesummer said:
Awesome! I'm glad you got it working. You can also try comparing the two files to see what's different, or maybe swap the updater script. Maybe you'll be able to get the one you wanted working with a little modification
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Thanks to you. You too helped me in working it out!
But, I have some more questions
Question 1 : If I flash stock ROM on my rooted phone, will I receive the new updates? If yes, will I be able to install them via Kies on my phone without getting into any trouble?
Question 2 : If I install stock ROM of any other phone, say Galaxy S5, will it work on my phone properly without any problems? If yes, will I receive the updates for that too and able to install them via Kies? If no, is there any way to install it? Cause I have seen people using S5 ROM on Note 2.
First question the answer is yes. As long as you have the stock recovery and stock kernel (along with the stock rom) you will receive ota updates. You can use ota root keeper (an app) to keep root during an ota update. There are many people who choose to stay fully stock but root to get rid of bloatware & stuff. However, if you want to get ota, I recommend freezing the bloatware instead of uninstalling, because an ota usually replaces old bloatware with new bloatware and can sometimes abort the ota if those apps are missing... but keep on mind this is not always the case, only certain devices.
Second question, no you cannot. Roms from other devices have to be ported to be compatible. But if you look in the development forums, you can find many roms that are basically stock but have specific features from other roms, along with the system ui (ie S5, note 3, & so forth). These rom devs have ported either parts/features or full on roms to be compatible on our device. They are excellent! I recommend reading up them and if you see some you like, try them out!
absinthesummer said:
First question the answer is yes. As long as you have the stock recovery and stock kernel (along with the stock rom) you will receive ota updates. You can use ota root keeper (an app) to keep root during an ota update. There are many people who choose to stay fully stock but root to get rid of bloatware & stuff. However, if you want to get ota, I recommend freezing the bloatware instead of uninstalling, because an ota usually replaces old bloatware with new bloatware and can sometimes abort the ota if those apps are missing... but keep on mind this is not always the case, only certain devices.
Second question, no you cannot. Roms from other devices have to be ported to be compatible. But if you look in the development forums, you can find many roms that are basically stock but have specific features from other roms, along with the system ui (ie S5, note 3, & so forth). These rom devs have ported either parts/features or full on roms to be compatible on our device. They are excellent! I recommend reading up them and if you see some you like, try them out!
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- Stock Recovery
- Stock Kernel
- OTA Root Keeper
- Bloatware
Well, to be honest, just right now I learned these new terms but know nothing about them. Can you please give me a brief description for these four terms so that when I do advanced search on them, I'd have a idea in my mind about what these are. It will make it easy for me to understand the advance things.
And I'm looking for S5 ROM for my phone. Let's see what I get.
One more question. I made a backup of my rooted stock ROM via latest ClockwordMod, manually. Now, if I reset the binary counter using Triangle Away and then wipe Cache and Dalvik and then flash my stock ROM which is located on my memory card and then after flashing I use SuperSU to unroot and then a factory reset (I don't know the method of factory reseting cause I'm confused. Whether to do it manually, like going into recovery mode or just from the phone settings. So please tell me this also.), will my phone be unrooted totally?
And sorry for bugging you so much. I hate to do that, but I don't want to take risk with my phone. So I am just collecting information. I hope so many queries are not a problem for you.
Ok...
You already know what a rom is. A kernel is a lower-level base. It controls the hardware. So when you do something on the interface, in the rom, it tells the hardware how to react. (Ie if you're playing music it tells which speakers to play and how loudly). The kernel controls almost everything you can't see, it relates to performance. Most stock kernels can be limiting as they underclock the cpu by a certain percentage. Because of this, people seek out custom kernels to max out their device's potential. Louder speakers, faster cpu, better graphics, etc. This is all stuff the kernel can optimize... but because you can change so many factors there is a risk of instability if you push your device too hard (max performance) or limit it too much (max battery saving).
Recovery is exactly what it sounds like. When you boot your device the very first screen that pops up is the bootloader. It's giving you time to boot in 3 different modes. The first mode, by doing nothing, is a normal boot into the rom/OS. The second mode, which you get to by one button combination, takes you to recovery. The stock recovery is very limited. It gives you the option to factory restore, wipe cache, update, or boot normally. Stock recovery only exists for emergencies, if your phone fails to boot normally. We have custom recoveries so we can do more stuff, flash custom roms and tinker with things. The third mode is download mode/Odin mode. This is the bootloader interface itself. It's the last resort for recovery if your recovery has been damaged or corrupted. It allows you to connect to Odin or kies and perform an emergency recovery of the device. If you damage your bootloader, your device is completely bricked.
So the order of operation is this:
Lowest level- bootloader
Second level- recovery
Third level- kernel
Fourth level- rom
Bloatware is all the pre-installed apps that your carrier adds to your phone. Most people don't use it, don't like it, and don't want it. That why we root. Without root we basically are just guest users of the device. With root we become the administrators of the device. Until you root, your carrier has admin rights over your phone (to use windows terms).
When you receive an ota update, your carrier can make it to where the update won't proceed if their pre-installed apps have been removed (although this isn't always the case). Additionally, the update package itself checks the integrity of the device. It checks recovery, kernel, and rom. If any have been altered, it will not proceed because it could cause conflict and potentially brick your device. That's why those things have to be stock.
Ota root keeper is simply an app that backs up your superuser rights before an update and restores them after its done.
You should be able to find plenty of roms with S5 features. I'm using one that makes my device fully like an S5 (my device even thinks it is an S5 and every app identifies it as such) I can think of at least 2 others as well. There's plenty to choose from, and if you see a rom you like but it's mudding a particular feature, you can probably find that feature as a stand-alone installation in the forum's themes & apps section. Just about every feature of S5, S4, and note 3 has been ported to this device, so look around!
Also, for future reference, if someone helps you on the forum, hit the thanks button instead of saying it. I don't mind either way, but some people get annoyed and will stop helping them if they don't hit that button lol. It's silly, but it's part of "forum decorum"
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svikramajit said:
One more question. I made a backup of my rooted stock ROM via latest ClockwordMod, manually. Now, if I reset the binary counter using Triangle Away and then wipe Cache and Dalvik and then flash my stock ROM which is located on my memory card and then after flashing I use SuperSU to unroot and then a factory reset (I don't know the method of factory reseting cause I'm confused. Whether to do it manually, like going into recovery mode or just from the phone settings. So please tell me this also.), will my phone be unrooted totally?
And sorry for bugging you so much. I hate to do that, but I don't want to take risk with my phone. So I am just collecting information. I hope so many queries are not a problem for you.
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You're fine, I don't mind answering your questions. Yes, you can unroot fully in the way you just mentioned but you don't even have to go through all the trouble of factory reset. Just unroot in the app. The app can be uninstalled afterwards via the play store.
You can factory reset either way, the same commands are given no matter which way you go about it. But it can be more efficient to do it from recovery because when you do it from the rom it has to create a wipe script for when it reboots, and it has to shut down the rom first. If you do it from recovery it doesn't have to anything, the rom isn't running and it can execute the wipe command immediately. (The wipe command is wipe /data /cache etc)
Thanks again for all that great info!
Questions : Is there no way to fix the Bootloader if it gets damaged by chance? And which S5 ROM are you using?
svikramajit said:
Thanks again for all that great info!
Questions : Is there no way to fix the Bootloader if it gets damaged by chance? And which S5 ROM are you using?
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If you damage the bootloader it's a hard brick and you would have to send it in for jtag services (this is a low level emmc chip flash service) The bootloader won't get damaged unless you do something to corrupt it. If you ever feel the need to flash a new bootloader, do it via Odin, never recovery! If you remember that you should be fine.
svikramajit said:
Thanks again for all that great info!
Questions : Is there no way to fix the Bootloader if it gets damaged by chance? And which S5 ROM are you using?
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I meant to tell you I'm using DN3 rom. It has an aroma installer that lets you choose whether you want an S5 ui, a note 3 ui or a mixed ui. Choosing S5 ui & S5 build prop allows your device to work with S5 apps & it looks just like an S5. It's not the only rom out there, but it's beautiful, fast, and stable & the team works hard on it.
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I meant to tell you I'm using DN3 rom. It has an aroma installer that lets you choose whether you want an S5 ui, a note 3 ui or a mixed ui. Choosing S5 ui & S5 build prop allows your device to work with S5 apps & it looks just like an S5. It's not the only rom out there, but it's beautiful, fast, and stable & the team works hard on it.
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Hey absinthesummer!
I tried to unroot my phone with the method I told you. But in the restore option, I am stuck at 'Checking MD5 Sums..'. What to do now?
MD5 checking takes forever! You have to wait it out. Most recoveries offer a way to turn it off. You shouldn't have to factory reset though, just click unroot in the super su app and then uninstall the app from the play store.
absinthesummer said:
MD5 checking takes forever! You have to wait it out. Most recoveries offer a way to turn it off. You shouldn't have to factory reset though, just click unroot in the super su app and then uninstall the app from the play store.
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I waited and the system was restored. But I got an error on 'Restoring Data'. I rebooted the phone and now it's showing glowing Samsung logo from like 3-4 minutes.
I've seen that before. Can you get back into recovery? You may have to flash stock in Odin, flash recovery and then do the Restore again. Data got messed up.
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I've seen that before. Can you get back into recovery? You may have to flash stock in Odin, flash recovery and then do the Restore again. Data got messed up.
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I'll try removing the battery now. Let's see what happens.
Ok if you can get into recovery, do a fresh flash and then try to restore again. And see if it offers a way to turn off MD5 checking. That's why I use philz or twrp, they offer that and move much faster through MD5 check by default.
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If you still fail on data, flash stock in Odin, flash custom recovery, then you should be able to enter recovery and have a successful restore.

[ROM][TAR] SM-N910P Stock OF5 Odin Flashable

This is NOT ROOTED. Its the original TAR file for people who need an Emergency Recovery for their phones, and don't want to wait hours for it to download from slow file hosts.
Edit: New link added 6/21/16
Download Link: Google Drive
Do NOT rename the tar file, it may cause Odin to fail the md5 check.
Code:
(N910PVPU3BOF5_N910PSPT3BOF5_N910PVPU3BOF5_HOME.tar.md5)
Instructions:
1. Download and Extract tar above and download Odin
2. Put phone into download mode (power off, then power button + Volume Down, then volume up when prompted)
3. Open Odin (right click > open as administrator)
4. Load stock tar into the PDA slot
5. Start flashing
6. Grab some popcorn because it will take a while
7. Profit
@random45, PSA: more direct link available here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61880147&postcount=14
itskapil said:
@random45, PSA: more direct link available here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61880147&postcount=14
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That is not for the Note 4...
random45 said:
That is not for the Note 4...
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@random45 Corrected.. ! pls check now.
Here's the OF5 TAR: http://www.theandroidsoul.com/download/download-sprint-galaxy-note-4-update-n910pvpu3bof5/
I just used this and it worked flawlessly. Thank you.
Thanks alot
This link is dead, it's actually deemed "dangerous", which of course is crap... Does anyone have a link to this firmware?
grmcrkrs said:
This link is dead, it's actually deemed "dangerous", which of course is crap... Does anyone have a link to this firmware?
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No but the next update up though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3250864
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Does anybody still have this firmware version available? The latest marshmallow updates are destroying Galaxy phones left and right with no solution other than paying Samsung to fix the problem and waiting 2 weeks without your device.
random45 said:
This is NOT ROOTED. Its the original TAR file for people who need an Emergency Recovery for their phones, and don't want to wait hours for it to download from slow file hosts.
Download Link: MediaFire
Do NOT rename the tar file, it may cause Odin to fail the md5 check.
Code:
(N910PVPU3BOF5_N910PSPT3BOF5_N910PVPU3BOF5_HOME.tar.md5)
Instructions:
1. Download and Extract tar above and download Odin
2. Put phone into download mode (power off, then power button + Volume Down, then volume up when prompted)
3. Open Odin (right click > open as administrator)
4. Load stock tar into the PDA slot
5. Start flashing
6. Grab some popcorn because it will take a while
7. Profit
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tommacco said:
Does anybody still have this firmware version available? The latest marshmallow updates are destroying Galaxy phones left and right with no solution other than paying Samsung to fix the problem and waiting 2 weeks without your device.
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Its still in my mediafire folder. I'll upload it to another site since mediafire has flagged it
Edit: Here is the new link
Thank you so much. I will let you know if this actually fixes my woes.... this ROM may become a major fix for a lot of people while Samsung continues to argue with us that there isn't a problem worth filing a bug report for.
random45 said:
Its still in my mediafire folder. I'll upload it to another site since mediafire has flagged it
Edit: Here is the new link
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Bah, giving me a software revision check error in odin. I guess this means I have to replace the bootloader? samsung is killing me here, they issued a faulty update and blocked off all means of recovery... won't buy one of these devices again.
tommacco said:
Bah, giving me a software revision check error in odin. I guess this means I have to replace the bootloader? samsung is killing me here, they issued a faulty update and blocked off all means of recovery... won't buy one of these devices again.
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Don't know what problem you're experiencing but most likely you can't go back to Android 5.0 through Odin.
Did you try OG5 or higher stock tar? Actually, I'd recommend OK1 or latest. If older ROMs are your goal, backup, wipe everything but extSdCard and Odin OG5 and up to match bootloader of ROM, flash the ROM. Do not Odin any tar below OG5.
If the ROM is Android 5.0 or KitKat, I think you still need to flash an Odin tar that's Android 5.1 and you need to flash an Android 5.1 kernel, like Beastmode 2.2 Flash ROM and then kernel before booting.
Can't imagine latest ROMs are to blame for ruining your phone. Marshmallow is a bit if a prude until you get familiar with it and setup properly. But if that's not to your liking, give Moar 2.1b a try. Backup and wipe as above and Odin back to OK1 if you don't have a backup. Follow the OP install instructions.
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samep said:
Don't know what problem you're experiencing but most likely you can't go back to Android 5.0 through Odin.
Did you try OG5 or higher stock tar? Actually, I'd recommend OK1 or latest. If older ROMs are your goal, backup, wipe everything but extSdCard and Odin OG5 and up to match bootloader of ROM, flash the ROM. Do not Odin any tar below OG5.
If the ROM is Android 5.0 or KitKat, I think you still need to flash an Odin tar that's Android 5.1 and you need to flash an Android 5.1 kernel, like Beastmode 2.2 Flash ROM and then kernel before booting.
Can't imagine latest ROMs are to blame for ruining your phone. Marshmallow is a bit if a prude until you get familiar with it and setup properly. But if that's not to your liking, give Moar 2.1b a try. Backup and wipe as above and Odin back to OK1 if you don't have a backup. Follow the OP install instructions.
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The stock OTA update from Sprint (PE1) started all these shenanigans with the phone, and it's done the same for many people across a few different carriers from what I've seen on the internet.
tommacco said:
The stock OTA update from Sprint (PE1) started all these shenanigans with the phone, and it's done the same for many people across a few different carriers from what I've seen on the internet.
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I updated bootloader and baseband only to PE1 and flashed a custom ROM. Later flashed a custom PE2 ROM. The ROMs are Note 4our by @freeza beta 2 and beta 3.
I see nothing wrong with PE1 or PE2. Did you try a factory reset? It does seem data from Lollipop can interfere with custom ROMs on Marshmallow. Main issue I saw with that was ItsOn on the root folder: /carrier/ItsOn The apk in that folder can partially activate on a factory reset and continually reboot a phone trying to setup the ItsOn bootstrapper but cannot so the cycle continues until you fix it. Wiping internal memory and factory reset prior to custom ROM (especially after stock tar update) will help but the developers may have removed that possibility in recent ROMs.
OTA may be suspect too but may only apply if rooting it. ItsOn and Knox don't play nice with root.
I'm not aware of cross carrier issues though?
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samep said:
I updated bootloader and baseband only to PE1 and flashed a custom ROM. Later flashed a custom PE2 ROM. The ROMs are Note 4our by @freeza beta 2 and beta 3.
I see nothing wrong with PE1 or PE2. Did you try a factory reset? It does seem data from Lollipop can interfere with custom ROMs on Marshmallow. Main issue I saw with that was ItsOn on the root folder: /carrier/ItsOn The apk in that folder can partially activate on a factory reset and continually reboot a phone trying to setup the ItsOn bootstrapper but cannot so the cycle continues until you fix it. Wiping internal memory and factory reset prior to custom ROM (especially after stock tar update) will help but the developers may have removed that possibility in recent ROMs.
OTA may be suspect too but may only apply if rooting it. ItsOn and Knox don't play nice with root.
I'm not aware of cross carrier issues though?
Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk
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I've done factory reset, wiped cache partition, reflashed PE1 and PE2 to no avail. This all started with OTA updates- I didn't touch the software or try flashing anything myself until these problems persisted and didn't go away with factory resets. I've seen others report these same issues in sprint/other forums, seems they ran into similar issues with recent OTA updates of the S5 as well. Sprint claims they're aware of this and are working with Samsung, Samsung support claims it's my problem and I have to pay to get them to reflash the latest update (which I've proven to myself is futile), in the meantime I'm left with a device that is essentially crippled by these frequent restarts and crashes. That's what I get for sticking with stock software ::sigh::. I may start exploring custom ROMs, which I tend to not trust due to the obvious security concerns, so I'm not left with a $700 brick as Sprint and Samsung worry exclusively about devices launched in the last 6 months.
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I've done factory reset, wiped cache partition, reflashed PE1 and PE2 to no avail. This all started with OTA updates- I didn't touch the software or try flashing anything myself until these problems persisted and didn't go away with factory resets. I've seen others report these same issues in sprint/other forums, seems they ran into similar issues with recent OTA updates of the S5 as well. Sprint claims they're aware of this and are working with Samsung, Samsung support claims it's my problem and I have to pay to get them to reflash the latest update (which I've proven to myself is futile), in the meantime I'm left with a device that is essentially crippled by these frequent restarts and crashes. That's what I get for sticking with stock software ::sigh::. I may start exploring custom ROMs, which I tend to not trust due to the obvious security concerns, so I'm not left with a $700 brick as Sprint and Samsung worry exclusively about devices launched in the last 6 months.
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It's things like Carrier IQ, ItsOn, Knox, infrequent kernel updates (well that may be corrected now with monthly security updates) and bloat that prohibits my trust of carrier and manufacturer to get things right where my battery doesn't drain, phone doesn't lag and get warm for no apparent reason. Just hate the feeling that someone else just used my phone when I wake it out of standby.
I may have to agree to those terms to run the software but it doesn't prohibit developers from using open source code and methods to make things work better. IMO, that improves personal security rather than put me at risk. It may only be network meta data that Sprint retrieves with ItsOn but that doesn't come without a loss of battery and resources (induced drain and lag).
I trust little but the ROMs I run are mostly stock. Just have the garbage removed or under control with some added custom features. But I still can't deal with Sprint Zone running on my phone but I may not be in the majority on that one. I freeze it.
You mentioned checking custom ROMs out, freeza has a PE1/PE2 ROM out that takes an additional step to prevent some of the things I've brought up with rooted phones. It may help with your frequent reboots. I'm running it with PE1 bootloader and baseband until those flashes are available for PE2 in the bootloader baseband thread.
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It's things like Carrier IQ, ItsOn, Knox, infrequent kernel updates (well that may be corrected now with monthly security updates) and bloat that prohibits my trust of carrier and manufacturer to get things right where my battery doesn't drain, phone doesn't lag and get warm for no apparent reason. Just hate the feeling that someone else just used my phone when I wake it out of standby.
I may have to agree to those terms to run the software but it doesn't prohibit developers from using open source code and methods to make things work better. IMO, that improves personal security rather than put me at risk. It may only be network meta data that Sprint retrieves with ItsOn but that doesn't come without a loss of battery and resources (induced drain and lag).
I trust little but the ROMs I run are mostly stock. Just have the garbage removed or under control with some added custom features. But I still can't deal with Sprint Zone running on my phone but I may not be in the majority on that one. I freeze it.
You mentioned checking custom ROMs out, freeza has a PE1/PE2 ROM out that takes an additional step to prevent some of the things I've brought up with rooted phones. It may help with your frequent reboots. I'm running it with PE1 bootloader and baseband until those flashes are available for PE2 in the bootloader baseband thread.
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Yeah I don't really trust Sprint at all to be honest with you, or any US carrier for that matter... my options seem to be limited toward trying to deal with this nonsense, flashing custom ROMs for which I can't verify the security integrity (sure a lot of folks doing this stuff mean well, but it only takes one bad actor and all of the sudden what little privacy I have is gone), or switching to Apple who thoroughly QAs all of their releases, gives loaners out when problems arise, etc. None of those options are particularly appealing to me unfortunately.
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samep said:
I updated bootloader and baseband only to PE1 and flashed a custom ROM. Later flashed a custom PE2 ROM. The ROMs are Note 4our by @freeza beta 2 and beta 3.
I see nothing wrong with PE1 or PE2. Did you try a factory reset? It does seem data from Lollipop can interfere with custom ROMs on Marshmallow. Main issue I saw with that was ItsOn on the root folder: /carrier/ItsOn The apk in that folder can partially activate on a factory reset and continually reboot a phone trying to setup the ItsOn bootstrapper but cannot so the cycle continues until you fix it. Wiping internal memory and factory reset prior to custom ROM (especially after stock tar update) will help but the developers may have removed that possibility in recent ROMs.
OTA may be suspect too but may only apply if rooting it. ItsOn and Knox don't play nice with root.
I'm not aware of cross carrier issues though?
Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk
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It seems as though the PD1 firmware (had to remove the cache.img.ext4 and repackage it) has since fixed these problems. I will update this thread if I noticed the problems again, but if anyone else is coming across the problems I noticed I would highly suggest atttempting this line of remediation since Sprint and Samsung support will not help you.
tommacco said:
Yeah I don't really trust Sprint at all to be honest with you, or any US carrier for that matter... my options seem to be limited toward trying to deal with this nonsense, flashing custom ROMs for which I can't verify the security integrity (sure a lot of folks doing this stuff mean well, but it only takes one bad actor and all of the sudden what little privacy I have is gone), or switching to Apple who thoroughly QAs all of their releases, gives loaners out when problems arise, etc. None of those options are particularly appealing to me unfortunately.
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It seems as though the PD1 firmware (had to remove the cache.img.ext4 and repackage it) has since fixed these problems. I will update this thread if I noticed the problems again, but if anyone else is coming across the problems I noticed I would highly suggest atttempting this line of remediation since Sprint and Samsung support will not help you.
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Why did you repackage cache? It only contains csc related things and I assume won't flash with odin unless the entire tar is repacked with a different md5

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