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[Q] Switch carriers and insurance

Hey gang, long story short;
I lost my phone on Halloween, got my Asurion replacement but now I'm considering switching to AT&T to get back on my family plan with my wife.
I'm within my 30 days to cancel my contract. I don't have my original hardware but I do have a new Asurion one. I'm willing to eat the deductible to get out. Is this going to be a problem. any advice will be appreciated.

It probably depends on who you talk to but they might stick you with the etf because its not the original equipment you opened the line with
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I think T-Mobile's Return Policy is 14 DAYs not 30days.

mha1021 said:
I think T-Mobile's Return Policy is 14 DAYs not 30days.
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California is 30 days cancel and return.
I talked to tech support to reactivate my account to see if I really want to switch back or not and they said that it shouldn't be a problem to return this handset versus the one I got in store. It is the same phone and now it is 2 weeks newer than the one I got. I guess we'll see how it goes.
I love this phone, though and really hope I can convince my wife to join me on Tmo so I can keep it.

Stamatos said:
California is 30 days cancel and return.
I talked to tech support to reactivate my account to see if I really want to switch back or not and they said that it shouldn't be a problem to return this handset versus the one I got in store. It is the same phone and now it is 2 weeks newer than the one I got. I guess we'll see how it goes.
I love this phone, though and really hope I can convince my wife to join me on Tmo so I can keep it.
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it should be fine, my store said that they'll charge a $50 restocking fee if I return the phone within 30 days (then again I bought my phone outright without a contract, so maybe no restocking fee for you).

I know I can return and pay a restock fee with "original" hardware but does my insurance replaced phone count as "original" hardware?
Thanks again for the input and sorry I didn't think to stick this in Q&A in the first place.

Stamatos said:
I know I can return and pay a restock fee with "original" hardware but does my insurance replaced phone count as "original" hardware?
Thanks again for the input and sorry I didn't think to stick this in Q&A in the first place.
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In general no but you never know it's always worth a try
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Why dont you take the phone with you? Not 100% sure the tmobile will take it back. You have a receipt for a particular imei not just a certain phone. I wouldnt be surprised if they flat out refuse.
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mdt73 said:
Why dont you take the phone with you? Not 100% sure the tmobile will take it back. You have a receipt for a particular imei not just a certain phone. I wouldnt be surprised if they flat out refuse.
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Not looking good according to the feedback here
So what would they expect me to do, pay for the phone outright even though it was lost and I paid for insurance? Then after I cancel, what do i do with the replacement. This isn't a very good system if this is the case.

I've returned 2 new phones in the past 6 months on Verizon. The first time was with a GS3, the rep just looked at the outside to make sure there was nothing obviously damaged, never turned it on or checked the IMEI. The second return was a MAXX HD, where the rep didn't even open the box, he just processed my return and I went on my way.
I would say go to the store, attempt to return it but don't mention that you got it replaced with insurance unless they ask.

Stamatos said:
Not looking good according to the feedback here
So what would they expect me to do, pay for the phone outright even though it was lost and I paid for insurance? Then after I cancel, what do i do with the replacement. This isn't a very good system if this is the case.
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Heres the thing. Your local t-mobile store is a franchise and owned by someone who sets the rules for that store, following guidelines from t-mobile. None of us are going to accurately be able to give you any insight into how the store will handle your transaction.
That being said, are you having buyers remorse? Is the t-mobile coverage bad? You mentioned your wifes family plan, t-mobile offers better plans vs at&t...cost wise. Whats the reason you are returning the phone?
For those who returned phones and are saying they dont check, they do and will. Your imei is in a lot of other places than just in jellybean. Again, its different by store. Just go in and be honest with the salesman and manager and let us know how they handled it.
What I missed in all of this is your reasoning behind getting rid of the phone.
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mdt73 said:
Heres the thing. Your local t-mobile store is a franchise and owned by someone who sets the rules for that store, following guidelines from t-mobile. None of us are going to accurately be able to give you any insight into how the store will handle your transaction.
That being said, are you having buyers remorse? Is the t-mobile coverage bad? You mentioned your wifes family plan, t-mobile offers better plans vs at&t...cost wise. Whats the reason you are returning the phone?
For those who returned phones and are saying they dont check, they do and will. Your imei is in a lot of other places than just in jellybean. Again, its different by store. Just go in and be honest with the salesman and manager and let us know how they handled it.
What I missed in all of this is your reasoning behind getting rid of the phone.
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I love the phone but the contract is just more than I want to spend and becuase I can get the same phone at ATT, I just figure I might want to wait until I can just buy the phone outright or wait until my ETF isn't $230. Tmo has been a little spotty during my trial, a lot of data switching to edge or worse. So all in all, I guess I was just hoping Tmovile would wow me enough that I'd go the extra mie to keep it but they did not. So now I'm hoping I'm not stuck over something dumb on my part by losing my original hardware.
Good advice, though.

[Q] Broken Glass, ATT insurance, matters of opinion(update in op)

Ok lets get this out of the way first. Yes my glass broke second day of owning, yes I was being careful and wasn't neglect on my part. Phone should have been able to survive a fall from less then 12" only landing on its back with out breaking glass.
Ok now that we got that taken care of here are my options.
1. Buy $30.00 glass attempt repair on my own. Question with this are if I mess up or something gets damaged could I still claim insurance(ie. will they know I have opened phone)
2. Att states they will replace for $199.99 but will likely be refurbished unit(which sucks). If I go this route will I need to flash back to stock and reset flash count or will they even check that. Rooted with custom recovery and att clean rom. Any one had experience with att insurance claim?
Local shops say its impossible to replace just the glass. Repair would be $425.00 so that is out.
Edit: I tried to call the walmart I purchased it from and got no answer. So I called another walmart and told her what happened. She said we are told we can't exchange phones that are damaged and you only get one exchange. So I thought I was screwed. She then said read your contract if it doesn't say anything about the condition of the phone or the number of times Walmart will have to replace phone. She kept emphasizing to read contract. Then said if I have any problems Call her back and she will call corporate. Sure enough contract states you can exchange phones in the 14 days nothing about condition or number of times. So following walmarts contract I got the note replaced. As of today if anything thing happens I have insurance. I also bought a temporary case till otterbox gets here.

Re: [Q] Broken Glass, ATT insurance, matters of opinion
I've dealt with att twice and it was agreeable. The second time I sent my note 1 in for the same issue (charging port failure) they sent me a brand new device. The truth is you don't always get a refurb, it's just kind of luck and how much product is on hand (so I was told by att cs).
If you try to fix the screen yourself and fail DON'T send it in for warranty... That's fraud and effects the prices for everyone else.
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Re: [Q] Broken Glass, ATT insurance, matters of opinion
Try searching next time. Here a few ppl have claimed to replaced only the glass but from experience on my s2 skyrocket its a pain in the a** and I ended up cracking the digitizer. If so tho ppl in this thread say to search for videos on youtube. Check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2090892
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jyazzie110 said:
Try searching next time. Here a few ppl have claimed to replaced only the glass but from experience on my s2 skyrocket its a pain in the a** and I ended up cracking the digitizer. If so tho ppl in this thread say to search for videos on youtube. Check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2090892
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I did search, I'm not a newbie I wasn't asking about how to replace the glass or if it is possible i was asking for opinions of my next course of action. I have seen the threads and watched the videos.

The customer is always right...
Sorry about your shattered screen. that's rough. hope I can offer some insight on your warranty situation:
You have two angles of attack:
1. Go in with your tail tucked between your legs, and pray for the best possible outcome. If the outcome is less than optimal, follow step 2:
2. Argue pleasantly, until you're satisified.
That said, at&t is usually pretty good with succumbing to "motivated" customers. I've always tried, and with great sucess, gotten all of my replacements by contacting them through e-mail or phone (and a few times at the service centers). My own personal experience has lead me to believe, if you go in, they're more likely to scrutinize you, your credability and your story and stick you with the least desirable option. My brother-in-law is a very "motivated" customer, and has almost always been "satisifed" by at&t (that's what she said) (shattered screens, water submersion, etc).
And as far as relocking\returning to stock, again, IME, I've only had them check my device for root/BL tampering twice, and they simply checked to see if their was a stock recovery. And I think it was only because the kid was knowledgable enough to know how to check. Otherwise, I've always gotten the impression the sales person doesn't know how to check for evidence of a tampered device.
If Steps 1 and 2 fail, try droping the, ETF-bomb. "How much is my Early Termination Fee?" In my experience, they always come back with good news from their supervisor. YMMV. And just as an FYI, when I have dropped the ETF-bomb, I had legitmately wanted to end my service; I wasn't threatening.
Good luck and hope some of this was useful to you! like I said, YMMV.
PS. If you go into one service center and they give you your options, that doesn't stop you from leaving with your device and getting a "second opinion" from another, possibly more agreeable service center. And then if you care to, as a last resort, you can always try contacting them through e-mail\phone.

nespid said:
Sorry about your shattered screen. that's rough. hope I can offer some insight on your warranty situation:
You have two angles of attack:
1. Go in with your tail tucked between your legs, and pray for the best possible outcome. If the outcome is less than optimal, follow step 2:
2. Argue pleasantly, until you're satisified.
That said, at&t is usually pretty good with succumbing to "motivated" customers. I've always tried, and with great sucess, gotten all of my replacements by contacting them through e-mail or phone (and a few times at the service centers). My own personal experience has lead me to believe, if you go in, they're more likely to scrutinize you, your credability and your story and stick you with the least desirable option. My brother-in-law is a very "motivated" customer, and has almost always been "satisifed" by at&t (that's what she said) (shattered screens, water submersion, etc).
And as far as relocking\returning to stock, again, IME, I've only had them check my device for root/BL tampering twice, and they simply checked to see if their was a stock recovery. And I think it was only because the kid was knowledgable enough to know how to check. Otherwise, I've always gotten the impression the sales person doesn't know how to check for evidence of a tampered device.
If Steps 1 and 2 fail, try droping the, ETF-bomb. "How much is my Early Termination Fee?" In my experience, they always come back with good news from their supervisor. YMMV. And just as an FYI, when I have dropped the ETF-bomb, I had legitmately wanted to end my service; I wasn't threatening.
Good luck and hope some of this was useful to you! like I said, YMMV.
PS. If you go into one service center and they give you your options, that doesn't stop you from leaving with your device and getting a "second opinion" from another, possibly more agreeable service center. And then if you care to, as a last resort, you can always try contacting them through e-mail\phone.
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Good advice all the way around, all though not too sure about ETF because I'm still on my new contract 14 days. Not sure how they would take that. I also thought about see what Walmart would do since that is where the phone was purchased do to pricing. With the screen not sure how they would handle that can't find anything on the web about the return policy for store bought phones.

chrisryn said:
Good advice all the way around, all though not too sure about ETF because I'm still on my new contract 14 days. Not sure how they would take that. I also thought about see what Walmart would do since that is where the phone was purchased do to pricing. With the screen not sure how they would handle that can't find anything on the web about the return policy for store bought phones.
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Well then, you just opened up your options - try a bunch of different Wal-marts. One of them is bound to have a lackluster employee who doesn't care, and just wants to go back to doing nothing - find that guy\gal and bring home your new N2.
If there is no physical damage to the body of the phone, you have better support to your story that the screen was flawed. I would really fight that point, that the screen was flawed.
Honestly, they don't have a leg to stand on, if there is no physical evidence to the body of the phone that it was "accidental damage", and they're not going to call you a liar (at least not to your face). With all of this, keep in mind to "argue" as politely as possible, but be persistent. Wear them down and get to yes! Illegitimi non carborundum.
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And yeah, as far as the ETF-bomb, it may not help if you're only 14 days into your contract. I've been with at&t since 2002 and I have 3 lines, so, that may factor in on their decision with the ETF-bomb.

I was with att for ten years when they decided to move out my upgrade date out of now where claiming it was because of a data overage. I was out of contract ready for renewal the didn't give a S*** about me canceling. I went to Verizon and it was a nightmare had 4 gig limit and they where charging me overage at 3.5 gig. Fought with them for about 3 months before I was able to use breach in contract with a supervisor to get out with out a ETF. Now I'm back at ATT and had this happen.

Plan B
chrisryn said:
I was with att for ten years when they decided to move out my upgrade date out of now where claiming it was because of a data overage. I was out of contract ready for renewal the didn't give a S*** about me canceling. I went to Verizon and it was a nightmare had 4 gig limit and they where charging me overage at 3.5 gig. Fought with them for about 3 months before I was able to use breach in contract with a supervisor to get out with out a ETF. Now I'm back at ATT and had this happen.
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thaaaaat sucks.
Move out your upgrade date because of data overage? weird. that makes no sense to me.
Here's a possible option: it's $200 and you have to return your current device or, is it $200 for a new device and you keep your shattered device? If it's the latter, then possibly sell the current N2 as-is on eBay\craigslist and use that money to purchase replacement? I am inclined to believe it is probably $200 + returning current N2.

nespid said:
thaaaaat sucks.
Move out your upgrade date because of data overage? weird. that makes no sense to me.
Here's a possible option: it's $200 and you have to return your current device or, is it $200 for a new device and you keep your shattered device? If it's the latter, then possibly sell the current N2 as-is on eBay\craigslist and use that money to purchase replacement? I am inclined to believe it is probably $200 + returning current N2.
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The said thing about the overage was it was due to their lack luster dsl department getting our dsl turned on at the new house. Seemed that the old tenant had some cheap phone service and never turned it off. They wanted $800.00 to run new lines. So we where using phones as all internet for a month. I'm pretty sure that I will have to return device, once the other comes in. I'm going to try walmart first, then if that doesn't work see if I can talk the deductible down on the att insurance and hope its not a refurbished. I have had to many android and iphones(wife) that have been through three young boys with out damage and this one damages so easy. Either way new device will not be fully used till it is safe in a case then still treated like a baby.

Bonne chance!
chrisryn said:
The said thing about the overage was it was due to their lack luster dsl department getting our dsl turned on at the new house. Seemed that the old tenant had some cheap phone service and never turned it off. They wanted $800.00 to run new lines. So we where using phones as all internet for a month. I'm pretty sure that I will have to return device, once the other comes in. I'm going to try walmart first, then if that doesn't work see if I can talk the deductible down on the att insurance and hope its not a refurbished. I have had to many android and iphones(wife) that have been through three young boys with out damage and this one damages so easy. Either way new device will not be fully used till it is safe in a case then still treated like a baby.
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sounds good to me.
good luck and let me know what you worked out.

Re: [Q] Broken Glass, ATT insurance, matters of opinion
I didn't see this mentioned but I recommend getting the insurance protection from Best Buy. You can still get it even if you don't get the phone from Best Buy. You can pay one flat fee to cover the year or pay $7 a month.
They will replace your phone at no extra cost for physical or water damage.
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kiltedthrower said:
I didn't see this mentioned but I recommend getting the insurance protection from Best Buy. You can still get it even if you don't get the phone from Best Buy. You can pay one flat fee to cover the year or pay $7 a month.
They will replace your phone at no extra cost for physical or water damage.
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Very much aware of that. Had it on my Galaxy nexus gave it to my mom she dropped it hard cracked the screen now she is waiting for her refurb to come in. They told me it was replaced at the store when I brought it in, with new unit. I have had to loan her my inspire while she waits 5-10 days for the other to come in. Not really satisfied with that plan either.

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That's weird. I've had to have 3 devices replaced through best buy over the last couple of years. I've never had to wait more than 3 days. I Also like that you get a loaner phone till the replacement comes in.
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I asked for a loaner they said they don't do that.
Edit: Hoping my inspire doesn't suffer same fate.

Re: [Q] Broken Glass, ATT insurance, matters of opinion
I'm actually a manager at a best buy mobile.. We are supposed to supply loaners if we have them with a $50 deposit that you get back when your phone comes back in.. Some stores don't charge that even though they should.. For android devices the insurance is $9.99 a month or $169.99 for 2 years.. Everything is covered except lost or stolen.. Which we do have a free app called locked and found that will let you lock your phone out if it is lost or stolen. It will take pictures with the front facing camera and email them to you with a location.. The best part is there are unlimited claims and no deposit

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I'm actually a manager at a best buy mobile.. We are supposed to supply loaners if we have them with a $50 deposit that you get back when your phone comes back in.. Some stores don't charge that even though they should.. For android devices the insurance is $9.99 a month or $169.99 for 2 years.. Everything is covered except lost or stolen.. Which we do have a free app called locked and found that will let you lock your phone out if it is lost or stolen. It will take pictures with the front facing camera and email them to you with a location.. The best part is there are unlimited claims and no deposit
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They wouldn't even let me talk to a mobile associate had to talk to GEEK SQUAD, sometimes I wonder the requirements for Geek squad hiring, Guy didn't know anything. Nothing against Best Buy just had bad experience mobile wise here. Best buy is my favorite store, Been platinum reward member for 8 years now.

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chrisryn said:
They wouldn't even let me talk to a mobile associate had to talk to GEEK SQUAD, sometimes I wonder the requirements for Geek squad hiring, Guy didn't know anything. Nothing against Best Buy just had bad experience mobile wise here. Best buy is my favorite store, Been platinum reward member for 8 years now.
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I get that a lot with complaints from the big box stores.. Next time try a best buy mobile store.. It's a more one on one experience and we usually know a little more

cold21blooded said:
I get that a lot with complaints from the big box stores.. Next time try a best buy mobile store.. It's a more one on one experience and we usually know a little more
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I would but we don't have those here.

You should not be concerned AT ALL that you may get a refurbished phone. I've done it couple of times and the phone is always perfect brand new condition. It's not like it will have scuffs on it or non-working parts....not to worry.
Also don't need to reset your phone to stock...you're getting it replaced due to broken screen not complaints that it is not functioning.

[Q] Destroyed Screen

I wont go into details, but honestly first time i've ever completely destroyed a phone.
Short story, fell out of my pocket getting into vehicle.
I've always had insurance and still do, so I took it in to a Sprint store to get it looked at.
Initially the lady that I first went to, saw my phone looked up my account, and said ok its still in warranty, so I'll get you a replacement.
Then some dude came over and told her that she cant do that, and to get it serviced through their equipment protection plan.
Is there anyway this can get fixed without paying the replacement fee/copay?

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I wont go into details, but honestly first time i've ever completely destroyed a phone.
Short story, fell out of my pocket getting into vehicle.
I've always had insurance and still do, so I took it in to a Sprint store to get it looked at.
Initially the lady that I first went to, saw my phone looked up my account, and said ok its still in warranty, so I'll get you a replacement.
Then some dude came over and told her that she cant do that, and to get it serviced through their equipment protection plan.
Is there anyway this can get fixed without paying the replacement fee/copay?
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I wish there was, been in this exact same situation and thought the same thing. Unfortunately Sprint doesn't do that anymore and you do have to go through their equipment protection plan.
Sorry

Nickitt said:
I wish there was, been in this exact same situation and thought the same thing. Unfortunately Sprint doesn't do that anymore and you do have to go through their equipment protection plan.
Sorry
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Bummer, it sucks. It was just a freak thing that both mine and my girlfriends SIII screens broke in the same week. Trying to avoid the $300 for both to be fixed. I'm chatting with Samsung now to see if there is anything they could do for me.

Sawdizzle said:
Bummer, it sucks. It was just a freak thing that both mine and my girlfriends SIII screens broke in the same week. Trying to avoid the $300 for both to be fixed. I'm chatting with Samsung now to see if there is anything they could do for me.
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I was going to say, that will probably be honestly your only hope. You may get lucky and try a different Sprint store. Anything is worth a try at this point it sounds like.

Nickitt said:
I was going to say, that will probably be honestly your only hope. You may get lucky and try a different Sprint store. Anything is worth a try at this point it sounds like.
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Yeah. Will do.
I'll report back on my findings... *if there are any that is lol*

Good luck dude! Hope for the best, expect the worst.

Sawdizzle said:
I wont go into details, but honestly first time i've ever completely destroyed a phone.
Short story, fell out of my pocket getting into vehicle.
I've always had insurance and still do, so I took it in to a Sprint store to get it looked at.
Initially the lady that I first went to, saw my phone looked up my account, and said ok its still in warranty, so I'll get you a replacement.
Then some dude came over and told her that she cant do that, and to get it serviced through their equipment protection plan.
Is there anyway this can get fixed without paying the replacement fee/copay?
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What exactly got damaged on the phone? If the screen was cracked then due to the policy change about 2 years ago you'll have to go through insurance not sprint. They now consider that physical damage that's not repairable in store. Your out of luck.
I don't remember but is the insurance deductible really 299? In November I chose best buy insurance instead of sprint due to always having issues at sprint. The third party centers were better in my area than the actual retail store but sprint decided to shut down the third party center here. Oh well.
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yankees45us said:
What exactly got damaged on the phone? If the screen was cracked then due to the policy change about 2 years ago you'll have to go through insurance not sprint. They now consider that physical damage that's not repairable in store. Your out of luck.
I don't remember but is the insurance deductible really 299? In November I chose best buy insurance instead of sprint due to always having issues at sprint. The third party centers were better in my area than the actual retail store but sprint decided to shut down the third party center here. Oh well.
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The whole thing is busted, the screen is completely trashed, outside casing is beaten up and effed, missing the screen glass in the corners of the screen, and the back will not snap on in places. I have insurance, Just with bad timing I would need to replace both mine and my girlfriends as she had broken her a few days later. Hence the $299 I was saying $150 per phone for the deductable.

Sawdizzle said:
The whole thing is busted, the screen is completely trashed, outside casing is beaten up and effed, missing the screen glass in the corners of the screen, and the back will not snap on in places. I have insurance, Just with bad timing I would need to replace both mine and my girlfriends as she had broken her a few days later. Hence the $299 I was saying $150 per phone for the deductable.
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Best thing is to pay for insurance replacement. It's better to get a new one then try to repair. Unless sprint will order a replacement at no charge which will be almost impossible. Good luck
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Sawdizzle said:
I wont go into details, but honestly first time i've ever completely destroyed a phone.
Short story, fell out of my pocket getting into vehicle.
I've always had insurance and still do, so I took it in to a Sprint store to get it looked at.
Initially the lady that I first went to, saw my phone looked up my account, and said ok its still in warranty, so I'll get you a replacement.
Then some dude came over and told her that she cant do that, and to get it serviced through their equipment protection plan.
Is there anyway this can get fixed without paying the replacement fee/copay?
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This is why I will NEVER buy my devices from Sprint. I always buy at Radio Shack because you can destroy your phone, walk in the store and walk out with a brand new one and not a refurbished piece of **** that Sprint makes you pay $50 more bucks for.

Sawdizzle said:
.... I was saying $150 per phone for the deductable.
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Sorry to hear about your situation. I don't know of any tips to help.
On a side note, this is why I don't get the insurance. I think it's a total rip off for the most part. People pay around $7 to $10 a month, which works to around $168 to $240 over two years. Not the issue. But then you have play additional $100 to $150 dollars deductible. This works out ok earily in the life cycle of the phone, but towards the end, it's the same cost for a new phone out of contract. And you don't get a choice on the deductible like with car insurance. I think a more reasonable deductible is $50 with the same insurance rate.
Granted, I don't know the numbers of how many broken phone claims the insurance company or Sprint get. It's possible, people, in general, are reckless with them and are having to replace them like underwear. My guess, probably not, and it's just easy money for the most part.

[Q] tmobile 50$ restocking fee

First of all I don't want people flaming me or trolling I had a s4 just had lots lots of issues with it so I sold it got my self a iphone 5s really like the phone works nice and smooth but I guess I need a bigger screen after all. I had a note 2 loved that phone just loved it , so I want to know how can I get rid of that damn 50$ restocking fee what can I say so my 5s is messed up that they won't charge me the damn 50$ restocking fee so I can get the beast note 3 thanks guys !

xxjrsmith3xx said:
First of all I don't want people flaming me or trolling I had a s4 just had lots lots of issues with it so I sold it got my self a iphone 5s really like the phone works nice and smooth but I guess I need a bigger screen after all. I had a note 2 loved that phone just loved it , so I want to know how can I get rid of that damn 50$ restocking fee what can I say so my 5s is messed up that they won't charge me the damn 50$ restocking fee so I can get the beast note 3 thanks guys !
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The best you can do is call telesales and ask for a credit to offset the fee, depending on who you get and how much you cry about the cost of living lol. I returned three phones in the last 5 weeks to get to the Note 3 and twice telesales gave me a credit on my bill but I did eat the rebox fee for real when I brought the G2 back for this.
The first one I actually had an experience with a rude salesman when I signed up and they credited me the fee when I turned in the S4 for the Htc One. Second time they credited me the 50 dollars when the store wouldn't honor the online promotion for a free case with the G2 so that paid my rebox fee and then I didn't even put up a fight when I brought back the 3rd time, was so happy to get the Note 3.

Highly unlikely you will get a store to do it. Regardless of what you say is wrong with the 5s, the only way the fee would get waived is by switching the "defective" 5s for another 5s. Tmobile has come down on their stores recently for waiving restocking fees and gotten much more strict about it.
Are you within the 14 day window to exchange it? ( 20 if you ordered it via phone or web but phone or web can't be exchanged in store within the 20 days has to be done via phone )
Bottom line though.. Take responsibility for your actions.... The company didn't mess up, you did. Pay the restocking fee and move on.

restocking fees are a joke though. Pretty much paying them to put it back on the shelf
surely they have to refurbish it which they lose money on which really makes it reasonable. For phones I can agree with because people cannot make up their minds
It is for other things that go back on the shelf that I do not agree with...enough of this rant though...you can try your best to get them to waive it, but like the guy above me said...they probably will not waive it unless you get the same phone

The reason T-Mobile does the fee is because people will just buy a phone for a week and return it. You also have people that jsut walk in the store and buy a phone without looking at it and try and return it in a few days because they don't like it. You can go into a store and play with the phone as much as you want before you buy. OP it is going to be very hard for you to get the $50 fee removed. The system auto adds it when you do a return. The rep has to remove it which most of the time requires a manger override. I have worked in a T-Mo Corp Store for a little over 3 years now. There are ways around it yes but you have to note on the paper work why you removed it. Your best bet like someone else said is to call Care and ask them to do it for you.

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Highly unlikely you will get a store to do it. Regardless of what you say is wrong with the 5s, the only way the fee would get waived is by switching the "defective" 5s for another 5s. Tmobile has come down on their stores recently for waiving restocking fees and gotten much more strict about it.
Are you within the 14 day window to exchange it? ( 20 if you ordered it via phone or web but phone or web can't be exchanged in store within the 20 days has to be done via phone )
Bottom line though.. Take responsibility for your actions.... The company didn't mess up, you did. Pay the restocking fee and move on.
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THIS WORKS!
When I bought my Galaxy S3 last year, tried to root it, and hard bricked it, I took it back to the store and told them I couldn't get it to turn on. They tried a new battery but it didn't work (for obvious reasons). The manager there just went in the back and got me a new one.

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THIS WORKS!
When I bought my Galaxy S3 last year, tried to root it, and hard bricked it, I took it back to the store and told them I couldn't get it to turn on. They tried a new battery but it didn't work (for obvious reasons). The manager there just went in the back and got me a new one.
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lame.

waive mine?
Here is my situation...I have 5 lines, been a customer for 8+ years and yesterday I went to store and purchased a Moto z2 force. I got home and after a few video reviews changed my mind and want to get the Galaxy S8 which is more expensive. I have not opened any of the packaging or used the phone or accessories. I just want to return it and get the S8. Always been a Samsung fan but not sure why i went for the Motorola..lol Will I have a big issue getting the restocking fee waived? $20-25 ok, $50, nope.

Verizon refused to give loaner phone said to keep using until new ones arrive.

I got a message from Samsung last night to power down my phone immediately and take it to my carrier's store and get a replacement S7 or S7Edge. If I choose to stay with the note they were to provide loaner phones until the new Notes arrive. Verizon told they are doing no such thing and pick another phone or keep using this one until the new ones arrived.
I think this may have been ordered by the CPSC. Here is the link : http://www.samsung.com/us/note7exch...=7731125&CID=eml-mb-cph-916-1199-emailversion
I wonder if Verizon will take responsibility if MY house burns down?
I talked to two techs on chat and both said I would be provided loaner phones.
I am not very happy right now and want to report them the CPSC.

Costco is not giving loaner phones.

ikarma said:
I got a message from Samsung last night to power down my phone immediately and take it to my carrier's store and get a replacement S7 or S7Edge. If I choose to stay with the note they were to provide loaner phones until the new Notes arrive. Verizon told they are doing no such thing and pick another phone or keep using this one until the new ones arrived.
I think this may have been ordered by the CPSC. Here is the link : http://www.samsung.com/us/note7exch...=7731125&CID=eml-mb-cph-916-1199-emailversion
I wonder if Verizon will take responsibility if MY house burns down?
I talked to two techs on chat and both said I would be provided loaner phones.
I am not very happy right now and want to report them the CPSC.
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Hey bro, sorry to hear about your misfortune. Sucks that everyone is getting yanked around with nobody from Verizon or Samsung being on the same page. It's irritating and super frustrating to waste your time going down there to be turned down for a loaner when that's what is strongly recommended. I was irritated by the lack of real detail and guidance from the start of all this. I contacted Tami Erwins office, the Executive VP of Verizon Wireless. They still had no real guidance for any of my questions (sad they can't even offer more assistance) but maybe if you have time and want to contact them, maybe they can provide you even more assistance then they did me or at least maybe it will force them to get their asses in gear if more people contact them.
http://www.verizon.com/about/our-company/executive-bios/tami-erwin
There is a contact link to submit your grief / suggestions. Hope this helps in some way. I'm sticking with my Note7 till they get the new batch in.

Thanks for that info. I will send them an email, but I am still gonna call and try to escalate the situation.
I don't think I should have to turn off my phone and sit there with idle cell service I am still paying for. Plus I need my phone.
They said I could exchange it for any phone in the store.... I wounder if they would give me the Droid Z with projector accessory? LOL

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Thanks for that info. I will send them an email, but I am still gonna call and try to escalate the situation.
I don't think I should have to turn off my phone and sit there with idle cell service I am still paying for. Plus I need my phone.
They said I could exchange it for any phone in the store.... I wounder if they would give me the Droid Z with projector accessory? LOL
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Haha good question, would be nice if you could! I haven't had a chance to call yet, but here's the executive number for Verizon Wireless too, if you wanna call.
18004356622

Got a canned email from that one executive saying someone will be in contact with me soon.

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Got a canned email from that one executive saying someone will be in contact with me soon.
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Yup! I got that too, I was contacted within one business day later (2 days ago now) and it was a member of Tami Erwin's team to "handle" my matter for her. Yet....nothing was handled, I wasn't offered any real answers for my 7 or so questions, I just kept being told that they aren't sure when new batch Note7's would be in. I asked questions like would there be a 'line' of sorts to get in for those who wanted a new Note7. I asked if the Note7 would be put on sale to the the public as well as for those who want to exchange or if first they will hold back all new Note7's specifically for the recall and exchange then once we are all taken care of, then put the Note7 on sale to the public. I asked a few more questions and none of them were really answered, it's been frustrating to not get any answers.

I am still on the phone with an agent and she spoke with her supervisor and she is telling me that I can go into the verizon store and exchange the phone for any phone and then when the new Note 7s come in I can do another exchange. She is telling me it won't affect my BOGO rebate..... I don't know if I trust that. I stand to lose $672.

Just got off phone with rep. She said that she noted my account to allow an exchange and then another exchange when new Note 7 comes out. She said I would have to do this at Costco though. She also said this would not affect my rebate. However the guy at Costco said this would kill my rebate. But she noted my account so I hope it sticks, getting on chat support with rebate center now.
What a cluster F for everyone involved.

Just got off phone with rebate center and he verified (through earlier meeting with his supervisor this morning) that the rebates will still be honored if you use a loaner phone temporarily.
So, off to convince Costco to loan me a phone. Which should I try out?

Ha! Costco said they got an email on how to handle loaner phones. Dial 611 on your verizon phone, tell them you have a Note 7 and need a loaner phone and they will overnight you one. Trying now, will report.

There is no loaner phone really. Verizon allows you to return your Note, cancels the dev contract if you have one, gets you into a new phone and promises to allow you to go back to the Note when available. With conditions.
You get a $25 store credit for accessories.
You get to trust Verizon for the flip back to Note7.

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There is no loaner phone really. Verizon allows you to return your Note, cancels the dev contract if you have one, gets you into a new phone and promises to allow you to go back to the Note when available. With conditions.
You get a $25 store credit for accessories.
You get to trust Verizon for the flip back to Note7.
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The Costco Kiosk is an independent company and doesn't follow Verizons policy. I could lose the BOGO if they switch to another phone.. Anyway, Costco had no clue what to do and they are gonna call me tomorrow. I have Verizons ear on twitter right now. DMing them at the moment.
I want Verizon to handle the whole thing and to accelerate my rebate so I don't have to worry about losing it.

If you all think that Samsung's notice is of any value to Verizon you are mistaken.
Samsung's notice states that you can bring your Note7 back to your reseller and get a J SERIES phone to use in the interim until the Note7's are back in store available.
Samsung's notice states you will receive a $25 in store or bill payment credit from your carrier.
Verizon's approach has been you can chose the phone of your liking.
They will deactivate the Note7 device contract and activate the new device contract so if you do not return for exchange it is your keeper. You have 14 days from the date of availability to return for your Note7.
You can use that phone until the Note7 arrive for replacement. It is actually your new phone if you do not return within the specified time.
You will get $25 to use for accessories in store only.
I asked about the BOGO. BOTH phones must be returned presently. What this means to you is based on how far along your ownership of the phones is.

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If you all think that Samsung's notice is of any value to Verizon you are mistaken.
Samsung's notice states that you can bring your Note7 back to your reseller and get a J SERIES phone to use in the interim until the Note7's are back in store available.
Samsung's notice states you will receive a $25 in store or bill payment credit from your carrier.
Verizon's approach has been you can chose the phone of your liking.
They will deactivate the Note7 device contract and activate the new device contract so if you do not return for exchange it is your keeper. You have 14 days from the date of availability to return for your Note7.
You can use that phone until the Note7 arrive for replacement. It is actually your new phone if you do not return within the specified time.
You will get $25 to use for accessories in store only.
I asked about the BOGO. BOTH phones must be returned presently. What this means to you is based on how far along your ownership of the phones is.
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Are you saying I could just return both of my phones and cancel my service with not penalty since I am a new customer?

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Are you saying I could just return both of my phones and cancel my service with not penalty since I am a new customer?
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The BOGO deal links the two phones together so yes, it would seem you can, unless you bought them on a 2 year service contract. That contract is separate from the devices, or device contract.
A cancellation fee on the service contract probably would be needed if you signed one. The network is not exploding, just the phones...

I bought the phones specifically because of the Bogo deal so I could use that money to pay off Sprint. Now no one wants to give me a loaner phone or exchange my phone till the Note 7 comes out. And no one if sure if I will still get the BOGO. If I could jump ship right now with no penalty I think I would.

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I bought the phones specifically because of the Bogo deal so I could use that money to pay off Sprint. Now no one wants to give me a loaner phone or exchange my phone till the Note 7 comes out. And no one if sure if I will still get the BOGO. If I could jump ship right now with no penalty I think I would.
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Also, I had to get past the initial sales person and to the manager for a "loaner" to be made available to me. The salesperson claimed I should shut the phone off and activate another phone in the meantime. I claimed I had a Chat message with Verizon Online that offered a "loaner" and I had no other phone to use as I traded in my old one. Only then was the "loaner" made available to me.
And only at the very end of the process was the $25 store credit made available to me after I asked. The salesperson needed to confer with the manager on this as well.
So a note of caution to you all. Get to the manager and get assurances because some of the sales staff are way in the dark.... So far in the dark that my "salesperson" didn't even know the Note7 had an Edged screen.....LOL
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I bought the phones specifically because of the Bogo deal so I could use that money to pay off Sprint. Now no one wants to give me a loaner phone or exchange my phone till the Note 7 comes out. And no one if sure if I will still get the BOGO. If I could jump ship right now with no penalty I think I would.
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Not sure how my last post quoted you but anyways...
It s best to wait for the Note7 to be available so there is a clear path to another Note7. You will have legal standing to fight them if they refuse the BOGO to you. Small claims court is free to you and you would certainly win.
See, you did not purchase a Device ID, you purchased a defective device so it will not matter if the Device ID is the same as long as you go with another Note7 replacement. This is pretty simple stuff really. I would not worry except while charging in the meantime of course.

Wow! I just called Verizon about my Note 7 that I purchased on line through my business account, and they really offered no loaner. They said that I was free to activate one of my older phones that I previously had on the line. When I said that was not possible, I was told that if I noticed no overheating on my Note 7, I could keep using it and just call them back if I ever did notice any overheating, and they would then let me swap it for another Galaxy phone. I am very surprised that they are not being more proactive on this.

I sat on hold for 35 minutes last night before I gave up and again 15 minutes just now. I can't even get a live person on their website chat, only the automated BS.
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