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Hey everyone, I'm looking to buy a casual watch. (something less than 500 bucks) I'm really interested in both the WIMM One and I'm Watch. I have looked at the specs and reviews, but I'd like some opinions. both look like they have a lot of potential. I do like the I'm Watch's curved screen. but the WIMM One looks like its got a bit more tech on it. What do you think? I want the most bang for my buck
Personally, I'm looking at the WIMM. Both from a cost perspective and from a battery life one.
The I'm Watch can do speakerphone, which the WIMM can't, but, really, I don't see myself using a speakerphone on a watch very often.
The dual-mode screen on the WIMM is a huge plus, in my book, as is the open-ness of the developer platform (something that I haven't seen much of with the I'm Watch).
Apps / Dev Support will make or break these devices.
I think I like the WIMM too. I have to ask, do you feel its worth getting the developer preview? perhaps I should tough it out and wait for a consumer release?
Well, I finally broke down and ordered a dev preview. It should be here in the next week or so.
After I get it, I'll let you know.
Awesome, Thanks!
Checked on my order status...
I should get it Wednesday or Thursday.
Early Christmas for me!
I've had the WIMM for a little less than a day now, and so far, the experience has been pretty good.
The only complaint I have is that Bluetooth does not want to reconnect to my phone if I let it get out of range. I have to un-pair, then re-pair the two.
Other than that, everything works wonderfully.
The display is amazing. Full color mode looks great, and the B&W LCD is amazingly crisp.
I haven't had it long enough to comment on the battery life, but so far today, after taking it off the charger six hours ago, I'm at 60%(ish) battery. Granted, it has seen only light usage, but, honestly, as a watch, I'm impressed.
I'll try to answer any questions, but so far I can definitely recommend getting one.
I got my WIMM in yesterday, and let it charge for the suggested three hours first. It's been on my wrist for the past eight hours and I'm still at 90%.
I've gotten really good at the swipe controls now; it's second nature.
My young daughter keeps playing the tilt ball puzzle game I downloaded from the WIMM beta forum.
I keep using the News reader app from the same place. That one alone, even though it's using sync'd data and isn't pulling realtime, is going to keep me happy with the watch because it's great for passing time in bed, while waiting, etc. It works surprisingly well on the small screen.
I have it set to sync my Google Calendars every few hours. Fantastic, having my appointments right there. (One included watchface even shows the next item.)
Having weather and time on my wrist for my favorite work and pleasure locations around the world is handy.
I downloaded a Christmas watchface with falling snow, which is fun to show off.
Just now, my wife asked for a wakeup in a half hour, so I pulled up the alarm app and a few seconds later I had one set to remind me. So easy.
The only problem I'm having is getting ADB to recognize the darned thing. Once I get past that common new-Android-device problem, I'm going to be creating some apps myself for it. First, probably a family picture viewer.
By itself, the WIMM looks bulky. On my wrist, with the way they sloped the wrist band carrier, it looks fine. Love the magnetic charging cradle, btw.
Now I wish I'd bought a couple for Christmas presents to my stepsons who love gizmos.
Heading towards 24 hours now, and still at 50%.
However, I am not using the Bluetooth. Just a WiFi auto sync every 3 hours.
I really like that whenever the watch goes into standby mode after a few seconds, the screen turns into a transflective B&W LCD image that is updated once a minute. Saves battery and yet the watchface is always visible unless it's dark... and then just a slight tap brings up the backlight and full color.
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The only problem I'm having is getting ADB to recognize the darned thing.
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@kdarling, let us know if we can help you w/ your ADB connection, either in our forums or [email protected].
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P.S. Sorry to intrude on the discussion.
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@kdarling, let us know if we can help you w/ your ADB connection, either in our forums or [email protected].
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Thanks Ted. I'm constantly adding on more Android devices for development, so I'm used to having a bit of trouble now and again. I thought at first it was because I only have the R3 usb drivers from Google. I also inserted a line in the usb inf file with the WIMM ID.
After reading comments by others, I finally found that I just had to hold the module down tight in the dock paddle while my laptop was talking to it. I've cleaned the contacts, but it just seems that they don't make good connections by themselves all the time. Overall, though, that's a relatively minor annoyance.
Hi kdarling, I wonder if you could help me by answering a couple of questions about the WIMM one as although there are a few reviews online I cant seem to find all the answers I was after
1) I assume this doesnt currently have GPS? It doesnt seem to mention it in any of the reviews so I assume not, and if so then thats a shame since there is real potential here for this to be the ideal "athlete" device which could log your training routes/speed etc especially in cases where you might not want to take your phone with you
2) How well does the Transflective screen work? Ive seen in reviews that it is updated every minuite but is that adjustable in the app? Again the reason I am asking is for sports being outside in the sun a "normal" LCD screen is unusable, but a transflective screen would be perfect for displaying stats like speed etc but only if it were updating more often then every minuite
3) how "easy" is it to develop apps for this? Again as mentioned I can see a real sporting potential for this device if you were able to launch apps that were specific for the sport you were doing (i.e. one for running, rowing, cyling etc) that displayed the data you wanted
If you could help with my questions would be great, have been looking/waiting for a dvice like this for a while really, just as shame that theres no GPS as thats an essential requirement really..
I'm not kdarling, but I have one of these as well, so let me take a stab at answering...
1) The device does have GPS, but, according to WIMM, that particular chip is disabled (via software) currently for power saving / performance reasons. I'm not positive, but I believe that the device could receive GPS information from a connected phone also.
2) The Transflective screen is absolutely amazing. The clarity is much better than I was expecting. Currently, there is no method to adjust the refresh rate for the apps that use that screen mode. From what I've been able to ascertain, the refresh rate can be specified within a given application. However, that seems to have a fairly negative effect on the battery life.
3) I'm not a "real" developer, so I honestly can't speak on this... However, having said that, I will state that it seems very marginally more difficult that developing for most other android devices, mostly due to the inherent with a device of this size/specs/interface.
I can say that this device, as it is right now, is absolutely fantastic. It has the potential to provide a tremendous impact in everyday life with a few minor tweaks, but even without any changes, it has made a significant impact so far for me.
carnagecjb said:
I'm not kdarling, but I have one of these as well, so let me take a stab at answering...
1) The device does have GPS, but, according to WIMM, that particular chip is disabled (via software) currently for power saving / performance reasons. I'm not positive, but I believe that the device could receive GPS information from a connected phone also.
2) The Transflective screen is absolutely amazing. The clarity is much better than I was expecting. Currently, there is no method to adjust the refresh rate for the apps that use that screen mode. From what I've been able to ascertain, the refresh rate can be specified within a given application. However, that seems to have a fairly negative effect on the battery life.
3) I'm not a "real" developer, so I honestly can't speak on this... However, having said that, I will state that it seems very marginally more difficult that developing for most other android devices, mostly due to the inherent with a device of this size/specs/interface.
I can say that this device, as it is right now, is absolutely fantastic. It has the potential to provide a tremendous impact in everyday life with a few minor tweaks, but even without any changes, it has made a significant impact so far for me.
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AH thats brilliant thanks!Very interesting to hear that it does contain GPS then, even if it is disabled, since that suggests in future it may be able to activate it for those times when you would need it, and then disable it when you need battery life!
Will keep a close eye on this I think...
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+ 10000000 Thanks
Sweet, so I should probably order soon then eh?
Has anybody had a stab at the I'm Watch yet? I'd really like to know before I buy one.
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Has anybody had a stab at the I'm Watch yet? I'd really like to know before I buy one.
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As long as it has a 40 hour or so battery life it's not much differernt than using a manual wristwatch.
I'd have to say though compared to the I'm Watch the wimm one is really ugly.
@carnagecjb Great reply. I couldn't have said it better myself.
@stelph By your use of the word "brilliant", I surmise that you live outside of the U.S. Good and bad news. Bad: We don't ship the WIMM One outside of the US yet, since we're still waiting for CE certification.
Good news: We just started a contest where I will send you a free unit - anywhere in the world - once you have created and posted a good app to our forums. See the Announcements within dev.wimm.com
Ted Ladd
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I'd have to say though compared to the I'm Watch the wimm one is really ugly.
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Many of us at WIMM Labs have created our own straps. Because the module pops out of the strap, you can place it into whatever attachment you like. I use a wide leather strap (pict attached). Other says that its ugly, but Beauty is in the eye...
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Is it just me or does it seem kind of suspicious all of these "expert" review sites came out of the blue and bashed the 360 's battery life and performance before giving it a proper test? Also suspicious how most of these sites are either pro apple or pro samsung ( don't get me wrong I love samsung too). If you check the reviews coming out now from sites that actually know how to review (Gizmodo, phandroid, droidlife, anandtech etc...) they all say the battery life is perfectly fine. Even here on our forums everyone is confused as to how these review sites got such "terrible" battery life... yet we all are consistently getting decent life with and without the ambient sensor on. Looks to me like jealous competitors paying off the media to bash the 360 before it can even get off the ground. Just my 2 cents...
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id hate to see that happen but yes most of the sites that had bad early reviews are sites with clear apple bias proved multiple times. Im hoping maybe they just had early software or hardware
Idk if I agree with you.. Those media sites probably only got a hold of the watch on the 4th and had to write a review within a day because the watch was released on the 5th... One day is never enough for a good judgment of battery life
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nah, probably all the tech sites got this on their hands already couple of weeks ago but since they have embargo to post anything before the 5th they couldn't say anything. I was actually suspecting this already some weeks ago since all the major tech-sites went silent on Moto360.
They have had their fare share to test the moto 360 and if they say the battery is awful I am willing to believe them. I mean the battery size is very small and for some reason Moto went for a very power hungry processor. I have no idea why they made such a big mistake but this is what we have now.
Actually I find most websites extremely Pro-Motorola, with "this is the first real smartwatch" and the like comments.
The original Galaxy Gear look like a "Smart Watch" to me.
Moto fans sound like apple sheep, look Motorola invented the first smart watch.
The latest battery life test I seen said the watch was turned on 7:30 am and went on until 11 pm and had 28% left.
Well my Gear Live has the same battery life but I do not have to flick my wrist or press and button to turn the display on.
If I used the Gear Live the same way it last 2 days easy.
In ambient mode they say 13 hours???
Really go out in the evening and your "cool" looking watch turns into dead weight.
You do not speak for everybody, why not buy a round phone?
Because you do things like read email and the round shape is a waste of screen space.
The same can be said with a watch, I read emails on my watch.... Why would I want it to be round.
I have since the age of digital watches always had a rectangular watch, and this means since the 90s
but face it Motorola is a Chinese company (soon) you do not have to be loyal to it, and the battery life of the Moto 360 is joke.
Because I don't want to look like a dork?
Plus, that's not how I'd like to use my smartwatch- I don't want it for reading emails, I just need to know that I got an email. If I want to read it, I'd just pull my phone out and read it. Much in the same way, I don't use my phone to write up long replies to emails, that's not what it's for, I use my laptop to do that, after I've read it on my phone.
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Because I don't want to look like a dork?
Plus, that's not how I'd like to use my smartwatch- I don't want it for reading emails, I just need to know that I got an email. If I want to read it, I'd just pull my phone out and read it. Much in the same way, I don't use my phone to write up long replies to emails, that's not what it's for, I use my laptop to do that, after I've read it on my phone.
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this is exactly how I plan on using the watch. Sure, in a pinch I can read the emails on my phone, but it's not ideal. Same thing with my phone... Sure, I can respond to emails from my phone, but ideally I would reply from my computer.
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this is exactly how I plan on using the watch. Sure, in a pinch I can read the emails on my phone, but it's not ideal. Same thing with my phone... Sure, I can respond to emails from my phone, but ideally I would reply from my computer.
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me too. more-so to know if the message i received needs immediate response or if it can wait. some people expect the watch to be more than just an extension of a notification center.
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Is it just me or does it seem kind of suspicious all of these "expert" review sites came out of the blue and bashed the 360 's battery life and performance before giving it a proper test? Also suspicious how most of these sites are either pro apple or pro samsung ( don't get me wrong I love samsung too). If you check the reviews coming out now from sites that actually know how to review (Gizmodo, phandroid, droidlife, anandtech etc...) they all say the battery life is perfectly fine. Even here on our forums everyone is confused as to how these review sites got such "terrible" battery life... yet we all are consistently getting decent life with and without the ambient sensor on. Looks to me like jealous competitors paying off the media to bash the 360 before it can even get off the ground. Just my 2 cents...
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no doubt in my mind.
i cant wait until google updates android wear.
I dunno.. I am not having battery issues but i find the watch extremely underwhelming so far and more annoying than helpful. I dont like that the person sitting next to me can easily read a text sent to me if my wrist is in view. I don't like how cumbersome the UI feels (yes i know its an early iteration and will get better) and i find that since im such a habitual phone checker anyway.. all the watch does it make me look at the same message twice because im going to open my phone to respond to the message anyway. I'm not gonna look like an idiot **** tracy dictating a text into my watch.
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I dunno.. I am not having battery issues but i find the watch extremely underwhelming so far and more annoying than helpful. I dont like that the person sitting next to me can easily read a text sent to me if my wrist is in view. I don't like how cumbersome the UI feels (yes i know its an early iteration and will get better) and i find that since im such a habitual phone checker anyway.. all the watch does it make me look at the same message twice because im going to open my phone to respond to the message anyway. I'm not gonna look like an idiot **** tracy dictating a text into my watch.
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It's obviously not for everyone. For me personally, I started wearing watches recently so instead of having to whip out my phone to check the time, I can just look down on my wrist. Having a smart watch will now allow me to determine if a message is worth responding to immediately or if it can wait without having to use my phone to check.
Isn't it possible that some of these reviews were written about a pre-release device? I know that the embargo was only lifted on Friday, but we have seen these things in the wild for the past 3-4 months on the wrists of various pop-tech people.
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Is it just me or does it seem kind of suspicious all of these "expert" review sites came out of the blue and bashed the 360 's battery life and performance before giving it a proper test? Also suspicious how most of these sites are either pro apple or pro samsung ( don't get me wrong I love samsung too). If you check the reviews coming out now from sites that actually know how to review (Gizmodo, phandroid, droidlife, anandtech etc...) they all say the battery life is perfectly fine. Even here on our forums everyone is confused as to how these review sites got such "terrible" battery life... yet we all are consistently getting decent life with and without the ambient sensor on. Looks to me like jealous competitors paying off the media to bash the 360 before it can even get off the ground. Just my 2 cents...
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No, "everybody" here is not confused. Many, many people are confirming what the reviews have said, or even saying that they can't get into double digits in terms of hours of battery life with light to moderate use.
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No, "everybody" here is not confused. Many, many people are confirming what the reviews have said, or even saying that they can't get into double digits in terms of hours of battery life with light to moderate use.
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Uhh, where are the many people? I'm on here and reddit's Moto 360 section. Almost everyone is claiming positive battery life, I've seen one post that was less than a day and that's because it was their first day using it so they were constantly messing with it. I'm at 18 hours and 28% left, I even used it for some navigation, a lot of email/FB/SMS checks, just messing with it, etc.
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I dunno.. I am not having battery issues but i find the watch extremely underwhelming so far and more annoying than helpful. I dont like that the person sitting next to me can easily read a text sent to me if my wrist is in view. I don't like how cumbersome the UI feels (yes i know its an early iteration and will get better) and i find that since im such a habitual phone checker anyway.. all the watch does it make me look at the same message twice because im going to open my phone to respond to the message anyway. I'm not gonna look like an idiot **** tracy dictating a text into my watch.
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Nobody can easily read your text message from your watch no matter how close they are sitting next to you. For starters normal human posture is going to make the watch appear upside-down to anyone next to you. On the off-chance you have your wrist angled in such a manner that the screen is oriented upright, they'd still have to be gawking at your wrist to read anything from it, something that I'm sure you would notice and would be very awkward for them to pull off. Finally, at least on the G watch, the text message is only displayed when you tap the message. All anyone would actually see is a notification from the senders name, not the message itself. There are plenty of events that dont require you to look at your phone to acknowledge. Reminders, timers, alerts, etc. Half the emails and SMS I get do not require a response so I just dismiss/delete them from the watch face.
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I knew these battery life reviews were trash before the watch was even released. I could just tell from the reviewers attitude that they either held some sort of bias against the device, or they were just typical review clowns who didnt really use it at all. Whether they got their hands on one a week in advance or a day in advance, I think it's obvious they only tested it for about 2 hours, saw battery life was down to 80% with screen on full brightness messing with it nonstop, and then decided they could just average out the usage for the remainder of the day so they could get on to the next review. I mean honestly, you think a reviewer who has to write 10 articles by the end of the week actually sat there and played with this watch nonstop the whole time? Hell no, they just rushed through it.
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Uhh, where are the many people? I'm on here and reddit's Moto 360 section. Almost everyone is claiming positive battery life, I've seen one post that was less than a day and that's because it was their first day using it so they were constantly messing with it. I'm at 18 hours and 28% left, I even used it for some navigation, a lot of email/FB/SMS checks, just messing with it, etc.
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Balderdash. In this very forum, probably 2/3 of posts are saying 12-14 hours tops, and probably a full 1/3 are saying they can't even manage that long. Very, very few are saying longer than 18-20 hours.
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Balderdash. In this very forum, probably 2/3 of posts are saying 12-14 hours tops, and probably a full 1/3 are saying they can't even manage that long. Very, very few are saying longer than 18-20 hours.
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Maybe I'm doing it wrong, lol. I'm not as active in this subforum as Reddit, so I'm going off what I see over there and the few that I've seen here. I'm at 4 hours and 87% right now, so I don't know unless these people are using always on screens.
So like the title says I want my watch to always be on. So not ambient mode I hate the on and off crap. I want a dimmed but always on watch face if possible. Not worried about battery. Any suggestions?
There's a launcher (?) I think called Swipify I've seen mentioned multiple times for this. There's also at least one face available for purchase on the Play Store that allows you to choose how long it stays on, including always on. I bought it for that gimmick but never really used it. I think it's the "A06 for Moto 360" face.
In any case, understand that "always on" won't make your watch any more a watch than it will a brick, as you're looking at probably less than one hour of battery life with the screen always on.
1 hour is exaggerating. Either way the whole point of these things should be to be a watch first and foremost, and a notification hub second. LG G watch has a always on option built in and it lasts all day just fine, so I do not think what im asking is too absurd.
Well, you're asking if there are apps to do that. I answered that much.
But as far as what you're hoping you'll get, you seriously need to readjust your expectations. It sounds like you didn't do your homework prior to buying this watch. Undoubtedly this is the nicest looking smart watch now. But the battery life is not great. I get about a full day's worth with the screen turning off constantly.
I can guarantee you, you will not get a full day's battery of this watch with the screen always on. I don't know much about the LG G Watch, but I also highly doubt the whole day of battery you're talking about is with the screen on always.
I get what you're saying. It would be ideal. But battery technology is not at a point where it can power a full LCD screen for a whole day on a single battery charge. Try either of the ones I suggested and see how far it gets you. I might do it just for testing purposes at some point.
Take it down a notch bud. I did a lot of research before I bought this device. Perhaps you should do some with the way screens operate. You can in other similar watches like the G watch have everything turn off and throttle down but keep the time on the screen. The g watch turns everything to black and keeps the time and date still on screen. No reason this watch cannot do the same. I was merely asking if an app was released yet that does this. As most apps like the one you listed does this but keeps the CPU throttled up and the screen drawing more power. Hence why the battery gets killed. Do some research before talking next time. there are a million videos on youtube showing you exactly what im talking about.
Love the watch not complaining, I just want to squeez all the goodness out of it I can.
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1 hour is exaggerating. Either way the whole point of these things should be to be a watch first and foremost, and a notification hub second. LG G watch has a always on option built in and it lasts all day just fine, so I do not think what im asking is too absurd.
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The difference is because of the display technology. As you know (or may not?), LCDs illuminate the entire display, whereas OLEDs (LG, Asus, Samsung) only illuminate the individual pixels, thus reducing power consumption by utilizing a simpler display graphic to use as the 'always on' portion.
To have your Moto 360 always on would be a huge drain on the battery life because of the power consumption to illuminate the display. LCDs are simply not capable of selectively illuminating pixels.
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The difference is because of the display technology. As you know (or may not?), LCDs illuminate the entire display, whereas OLEDs (LG, Asus, Samsung) only illuminate the individual pixels, thus reducing power consumption by utilizing a simpler display graphic to use as the 'always on' portion.
To have your Moto 360 always on would be a huge drain on the battery life because of the power consumption to illuminate the display. LCDs are simply not capable of selectively illuminating pixels.
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To be fair, the G watch is also LCD. The gear live is amoled.
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To be fair, the G watch is also LCD. The gear live is amoled.
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Well I was referring to the R, which I assumed is what he was referring to as well... but if he's saying the LG G watch is capable of that, then I dunno what to say.
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Well I was referring to the R, which I assumed is what he was referring to as well... but if he's saying the LG G watch is capable of that, then I dunno what to say.
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The reason the g watch is able to is because it's built with a larger battery. I had the g watch briefly and it was nice in terms of battery but just didn't hold a candle to the 360 IMO. It is a quality device though.
I'd like an always on option as well for my moto 360.
The always on mode ...is not actually a always on totally. ..it just dims to show only the dials and not the back ground. ..the lg g watch R and the gear live with oled screens will burn in if they are totally always on. .
But yes. .using apps like facer..you can select which layer you can keep dimmed on always on mode on the lg g watch. ..but that will eat battery up.
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WatchMaker lets you set up to 30s stay awake.
Lol. Dude, you really need to do your research. You'd get MAYBE three hours max with the screen on like that. Your attitude against people who are trying to inform you and help you (you know because that's the point of your post where YOU asked for OUR help) is atrocious. If you knew it all you wouldn't need to ask this question. The first guy who responded to you gave you real experience and opinion, and you told him he was exaggerating and to "take it down a notch". Lol.
Ridiculous. Hope you find what you're looking for. Let us know the moment you can get a full day of screen on time with the 360. I won't hold my breath.
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Not sure if this helps but like you I like a watch to be a watch and very close second I really like all the features for notifications that the smart watches make. I have had my Moto 360 for a little over a week now and I use it for keeping time and getting the basic notifications like SMS, Emails and Google Now info like weather. I do not have any other apps installed and with the Ambient Mode ON and brightness set to 2 I have been able to get 36 hours (at most) out of it with light to moderate use . The watch face I use is the preinstalled digital one. It dims just right but it will go to a black screen when there is very little movement detected. I can very slightly move my wrist and it will activate the dimmed time mode so I can see it without having to drastically twist my wrist and bring the watch up to my face.
Hope that helps.
If you find what you are looking please be sure to share as I am interested in this also.
Just to satisfy curiosity, I went ahead and tried this "always on" thing. I used the "A06 for Moto 360" face I mentioned in my initial reply, which is paid for on the Play Store so I won't link. It's not that great looking either, but it does have the option to have the watch Always On.
So, fully charged, I disconnected from the charger at 12:16 PM and changed the face to the one in question. I enabled Always On and set Brightness to max. With no usage of the watch other than to swipe away notifications and to use as a watch (i.e. looking at it for the time), the battery ran out exactly at 4:54 PM, or 4 hours and 38 minutes later. Admittedly, this was longer than my estimated one hour battery life, but again I wasn't doing anything with the watch. I didn't reply to messages, I didn't play games, I didn't check my heartbeat, I didn't control music. Only swipe away notifications and look at the time. Not quite 5 hours.
I guess it may be worth it if you're using a fancy face and going out for a date or something and you're fully charged before going. But it's useless as a daily driver with that kind of battery life.
Your very wrong. First and foremost it should be a watch. I bought a pebble for that same reason. Now before you go saying it's different due to it's e-ink display, I also own a Microsoft band and it's a color screen. I have my band with the watch always on and I user the sleep monitor every night. It easily lasts through almost 2 days and that's with constant notifications and checking pulse often.
It can most definitely be done.
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Your very wrong. First and foremost it should be a watch. I bought a pebble for that same reason. Now before you go saying it's different due to it's e-ink display, I also own a Microsoft band and it's a color screen. I have my band with the watch always on and I user the sleep monitor every night. It easily lasts through almost 2 days and that's with constant notifications and checking pulse often.
It can most definitely be done.
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So a galaxy gear S with tizen OS and amoled screen. With a large display and 3g, WiFi,GPS and phone calling with only 300mah will work for 2 days....
The moto 360 will not... Just accept it and move along
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So what's the point of wanting the screen always on? Are your eyes on the screen with your hands at your sides? Are you trying to show off? I don't think the whole "it should be a watch first & foremost" thing is a good enough excuse. As far as I can see, I can tell the time just fine without the screen being on 24/7. As a matter of fact, I guarantee I can tell the time every single time you can if we check our watches at the same time. No added functionality. Decrease in battery life. I see no win here. But to each there own. Charge your watch every 3 hours. I'm happy charging mine every night.
It's definitely wanting others to see his watch when he's not looking at it. Otherwise they see a black screen. I wanted that too but then realized I couldn't and moved on.
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I only get 10-14 hours out of mine but I have a bunch of apps installed. Not sure where the battery drain is because its not like most of them stay running. Maybe google fit is the big drain, but its a nice feature and I don't need much more than 12 hours. Hopefully in the future this will get an easier root (without the interface clock) and an underclock for more battery life. That's very possible. I don't need my watch running at 1 GHz and I'm willing to bet the kernel is a huge part of the battery problem (as well as the smaller battery). But hacks could fix the watch I think.
Hello everyone.
First of all I'd like to state that I'm a massive noob on this forum, so if I'm being stupid for not finding a thread about this subject yet, please refer me to it. My apologies.
I've recently bought my LG G3 like 2 months ago. Now, I'm the type of person that likes perfection, so I've already tweaked my phone to the max (without 'hacking' into the system though), for as far as I'm concerned.
I was wondering if any of you know an app or trick to always show a digital clock on the screen, even when it's locked (untouched). I've read on forums that a lot of people complain about battery draining owing to the latter. Though I'm searching for just a tiny, dimmed clock on top of my screen so I can always look up the time without even tapping the screen. My logics tell me that those few pixels used will never really benefit to massive battery draining, and even if it would, I'm still curious whether it's possible yes or no.
I've tried the NoLED app. But like most apps, this is just another Daydream tweaker, which obviously is not what I'm looking for.
So in conclusion, I'm looking for a tiny little clock destined for the top of my screen, always visible, dimmed (to save battery life), not in the way Daydream does (since this leaves the entire screen on [draining more battery life than my idea IMO]).
Anyone know a trick, app or tweak to achieve this?
Thanks in advance!!
Jurjen
Please remove this thread. I noticed there's a Q&A section. My apologies.
Hello everyone.
First of all I'd like to state that I'm a massive noob on this forum, so if I'm being stupid for not finding a thread about this subject yet, please refer me to it. My apologies.
I've recently bought my LG G3 like 2 months ago. Now, I'm the type of person that likes perfection, so I've already tweaked my phone to the max (without 'hacking' into the system though), for as far as I'm concerned.
I was wondering if any of you know an app or trick to always show a digital clock on the screen, even when it's locked (untouched). I've read on forums that a lot of people complain about battery draining owing to the latter. Though I'm searching for just a tiny, dimmed clock on top of my screen so I can always look up the time without even tapping the screen. My logics tell me that those few pixels used will never really benefit to massive battery draining, and even if it would, I'm still curious whether it's possible yes or no.
I've tried the NoLED app. But like most apps, this is just another Daydream tweaker, which obviously is not what I'm looking for.
So in conclusion, I'm looking for a tiny little clock destined for the top of my screen, always visible, dimmed (to save battery life), not in the way Daydream does (since this leaves the entire screen on [draining more battery life than my idea IMO]).
Anyone know a trick, app or tweak to achieve this?
Thanks in advance!!
Jurjen
With the LCD screen on the G3 (and most other phones), you can't really do what you want. Whenever the screen is on, the backlight is turned on for the entire screen. So even if the clock only takes a tiny bit of screen, the backlight will use the same amount of power as if the clock took the whole screen.
Only OLED screens, as used on Samsung, Moto, and the Nexus 6 allow the device to light only specific pixels.