I've had my note 4 for a couple weeks now, and I have to say that the phone is not as powerful as I expected. Whenever I run a resource heavy app, the phone experiences severe lag after exiting the app. For instance, the Caustic app, which is a music mixing app, runs descent on my note 4 but after exiting the app the launcher becomes very stuttery and laggy. I loaded the phone up with Nova launcher prime, and it does work better, yet still lags. I have clean master installed, and I've gotton notifications from it a couple times telling me the RAM is above 80% and the CPU is hot.. I've always been under the impression that clearing processes from RAM on Android is a no no, but as a last ditch effort, I went ahead and did it anyway. Over all, I'm not happy with the phone performance. My 2013 nexus 7 performes better, and this is supposed to be a beefier device as far as hardware is concerned.. Should I take the phone back to AT&T?
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What other apps have you seen this with?
As I have not used caustic I cannot say if it does the same.
Is that app caustic 3?
icexshinigami said:
What other apps have you seen this with?
As I have not used caustic I cannot say if it does the same.
Is that app caustic 3?
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Yes, the app that's causing me the lag is caustic 3. The only other app that had caused the same stutter is Fit Brains Trainer by roseta stone.. Are you having problems too?
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norcal61 said:
Yes, the app that's causing me the lag is caustic 3. The only other app that had caused the same stutter is Fit Brains Trainer by roseta stone.. Are you having problems too?
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So I tried caustic not sure how long but it does lag the launcher after exiting. (nova launcher)
Also after reboot every thing is running smoothly again and started caustic again and it does not lag after exiting ~5mins of running (maybe I didn't leave it running as long or what not I'm not sure but that's all I can observe so far)
Hope that helps you a bit.
This is exactly why we need the ability to flash custom roms on Samsung devices. The out-of-the-box experience sucks. The phone performs night and day on a custom rom.
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So I tried caustic not sure how long but it does lag the launcher after exiting. (nova launcher)
Also after reboot every thing is running smoothly again and started caustic again and it does not lag after exiting ~5mins of running (maybe I didn't leave it running as long or what not I'm not sure but that's all I can observe so far)
Hope that helps you a bit.
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Thank you for the feedback, I really appreciate it. My girlfriend has an AT&T Note 4 as well. I loaded hers up with the caustic app, and had the same laggy results. Yea, sometimes after exiting the app, the lag is so bad I have to reboot, other times a simple screen lock and unlock takes care of it, and other times there is no lag at all. When I was using the touch wiz launcher it caused lag everytime.. Nova launcher is working much better, but still not satisfactory..IMO, if I have what is considered to be one of, if not the most powerful smartphone currently, I shouldn't be dealing with this at all.. I think after this phone I'll stick with nexus devices.. Even though I said the same thing after my Galaxy S4, and somehow got sucked into the hype on this phone..
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Thank you for the feedback, I really appreciate it. My girlfriend has an AT&T Note 4 as well. I loaded hers up with the caustic app, and had the same laggy results. Yea, sometimes after exiting the app, the lag is so bad I have to reboot, other times a simple screen lock and unlock takes care of it, and other times there is no lag at all. When I was using the touch wiz launcher it caused lag everytime.. Nova launcher is working much better, but still not satisfactory..IMO, if I have what is considered to be one of, if not the most powerful smartphone currently, I shouldn't be dealing with this at all.. I think after this phone I'll stick with nexus devices.. Even though I said the same thing after my Galaxy S4, and somehow got sucked into the hype on this phone..
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I think it's probably just Samsung bloatware interfering with phone function.
Personally I don't think it is a deal breaker just keep an eye out for those apps it may not be 100% compatible with our phones.
You may want to report the issue to the developer of Caustic. It could just be a software glitch isolated to this phone.
I personally haven't had the chance to see this phone lag at all and I definitely use it very heavily.
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You may want to report the issue to the developer of Caustic. It could just be a software glitch isolated to this phone.
I personally haven't had the chance to see this phone lag at all and I definitely use it very heavily.
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Do you use a cleaner app? I use clean master, and about once or twice a day I get a notification from clean master telling me the phone is preforming poorly, and ram is over %80. This usually occurs when I have a few apps open, and I usually do experience minor lag leading up to this. I allow clean master to wipe the ram, then reboot the phone and all is well for a while. This is very discouraging..
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While a bit counterintuitive to what we have been seeing on windows etc.
This phone is designed to use all of its ram.
It should not lag while doing it and apps that causes it to lag is probably dev error so make note of those apps and keep an eye out for it.
Ram is not being used unnecessarily android purposely stores cached in ram to allow it to load faster.
It is not the app's fault. I made a thread about this same exact behavior a couple weeks ago but not a single person responded. Jittery, laggy performance after exiting a game or other graphics intensive app. Only thing that would get rid of it was a reboot.
I got a PM from Samsung Support about it though which surprised me. I think they may be aware of some type of issue.
It happened for me after two different apps closing so it's not your app. And it doesn't happen after every closing either. The jittery behavior is not limited to the launcher either. Next time it happens open another app and scroll, like the browser. It was terribly choppy.
The good news is Samsung reached out to me which is always a positive sign for fixes.
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It is not the app's fault. I made a thread about this same exact behavior a couple weeks ago but not a single person responded. Jittery, laggy performance after exiting a game or other graphics intensive app. Only thing that would get rid of it was a reboot.
I got a PM from Samsung Support about it though which surprised me. I think they may be aware of some type of issue.
It happened for me after two different apps closing so it's not your app. And it doesn't happen after every closing either. The jittery behavior is not limited to the launcher either. Next time it happens open another app and scroll, like the browser. It was terribly choppy.
The good news is Samsung reached out to me which is always a positive sign for fixes.
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Yea, definitely not the apps fault. I've confirmed this by installing the same app on my Nexus 7 and Galaxy S4; the app runs fine on those two devices without any lag as a result. It may be compatability issues with the newer qualcom chip, or possibly all of the bloatware on the phone weighing things down. These ideas are all speculation on my part. It's good to hear that Samsung is aware of the issue. Please keep us posted on anything new in regards to the issue. Just an FYI, I've replaced Nova Launcher with the Google now launcher, and for the last 3 days the phone has been running remarkably smoother. Hopefully lollipop will fix these issues.. Root would definitely be nice.
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Yea, definitely not the apps fault. I've confirmed this by installing the same app on my Nexus 7 and Galaxy S4; the app runs fine on those two devices without any lag as a result. It may be compatability issues with the newer qualcom chip, or possibly all of the bloatware on the phone weighing things down. These ideas are all speculation on my part. It's good to hear that Samsung is aware of the issue. Please keep us posted on anything new in regards to the issue. Just an FYI, I've replaced Nova Launcher with the Google now launcher, and for the last 3 days the phone has been running remarkably smoother. Hopefully lollipop will fix these issues.. Root would definitely be nice.
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If I get any updates I'll make sure to inform you all. I'm using Nova and it seems pretty fast. Were you having issues with it that made you switch to Google? Or is Google Launcher just that much better?
Techweed said:
If I get any updates I'll make sure to inform you all. I'm using Nova and it seems pretty fast. Were you having issues with it that made you switch to Google? Or is Google Launcher just that much better?
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I was having some minor issues with Nova Launcher. I was getting random crashes, where Nova itself was actually crashing, which was a first for me. I was also getting some lag while scrolling, opening and closing apps. When I use Nova Launcher, I tweak allot of the settings, so that may have had something to do with it, but I've used Nova Launcher for the last year and a half on my Galaxy S4 w/o any problems.. Google now launcher doesn't have any options for customization of any kind, but it has been very smooth and effective.
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After a year, Google Play is STILL the laggiest piece of software I have seen on ANY platform. How can Google still have it so laggy? I never use Google play because the experience sucks.
How come Google didn't fire the guy who approved the app with such lags and still haven't solved this issue?
User error.
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After a year, Google Play is STILL the laggiest piece of software I have seen on ANY platform. How can Google still have it so laggy? I never use Google play because the experience sucks.
How come Google didn't fire the guy who approved the app with such lags and still haven't solved this issue?
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You're alone on this one, I don't have any problems beyond things not updating as fast as I'd want them to be, and some downloads never starting.
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It's a bit glitchy but not enough to make me not want to use it.
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Are we talking about the market? If so mine is nice and smooth, but it was laggy before but they updated it long ago.
When you scroll up or down when browsing apps its sooo lagy! But when you view an app its very smooth. Also transitions on Google play is very choppy.
Maybe this is an ICS issue because its the same on every app
retskrad said:
When you scroll up or down when browsing apps its sooo lagy! But when you view an app its very smooth. Also transitions on Google play is very choppy.
Maybe this is an ICS issue because its the same on every app
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You may need to re flash your phone or something. I am on my GSII and other than the millisecond it takes for the icon to appear the market is very fast and smooth. I can flick my finger and scroll through fifty apps with no issue..... Every click and backspace is smooth..... You might want to try and smooth your phone out..... Seems like issues from flashing a million times. Don't forget to wipe..... And wipe again.
killing is my business, And business is good.
You're holding it wrong. But seriously the only lag you mention might be when you scroll down the page is caching more apps and you're waiting for it to download. The faster your connection the less lag/caching you will experience. Everything else is as smooth as my latency allows. No lag here.
sahibunlimited picks his nose. in his sleep.
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You may need to re flash your phone or something. I am on my GSII and other than the millisecond it takes for the icon to appear the market is very fast and smooth. I can flick my finger and scroll through fifty apps with no issue..... Every click and backspace is smooth..... You might want to try and smooth your phone out..... Seems like issues from flashing a million times. Don't forget to wipe..... And wipe again.
killing is my business, And business is good.
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I never flashed my G nex, it's 100% stock since I bought it. Android Market ws also very laggy on my Nexus S, almost the same problem...
retskrad said:
I never flashed my G nex, it's 100% stock since I bought it. Android Market ws also very laggy on my Nexus S, almost the same problem...
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When looking at a long list of apps, scroll the page/screen one app at a time, then you'll have no lag.
Like everyone's said, there's "lag" because the screen is generating/downloading/updating the blank app icons to the app icon's picture.
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I never flashed my G nex, it's 100% stock since I bought it. Android Market ws also very laggy on my Nexus S, almost the same problem...
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I've never flashed my Gnex either, but I don't normally expose myself to a phone...
BOOM.
What? Ur doin et rong, seriously.
Apps are slow to update IMO, but no lag scrolling and such at all for me.
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To the OP you seriously have some really bad problems with android. You were ranting about nexus and the updates now about the play store why don't you go with iOS or windows phone 7. I personally went with iOS for 6 months and yes there is less bugs (yes they do have bugs trust me ) but the system is so closed the you get bored at it ( at least I did ) and the app store takes longer on iOS ( I do still have my ipad tho ) but is just how it is. Nothing is perfect nothing will be. Personally I haven't played with windows phone 7 much so I can't give you any excuses but that it doesn't have the apps and some are too expensive. Please move on if you feel like it, I do no feel the phone laggy and I don't have problems with it. I don't look for something wrong I just use it as normal and so far mine everything works normal .
For the rest sorry for the long post. Please let's move on and forget about this
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try to flash GAPPS again & clear the cache on you play store from settings
I went to try out the Note II in store today - and couldn't believe how laggy it was... I have the Original Note, which feels much faster in comparison.
I noticed lag on
Home Screen - jerky movement
App Drawer - jerky again
Gallery - Took 10 seconds to open, very jerky scroll
Home Button - 3 or 4 seconds to return to home
My note doesn't lag on any of these, even with the new 3D Gallery app.
This was in the UK, O2 store. I even tried it on two display models and they were just as bad
I reminded me of the horrible lag I used to get on the old Galaxy S with 2.2
Anyone else noticed this?
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I went to try out the Note II in store today - and couldn't believe how laggy it was... I have the Original Note, which feels much faster in comparison.
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I have 245 apps installed on my Note 2 and it screams.
I showed to one of my coworkers, who has the S3, and he was commenting on how much faster it was than his phone.
So I'm not sure what the problem is there. Some sort of horrible bloatware?
- Frank
ChodTheWacko said:
I have 245 apps installed on my Note 2 and it screams.
I showed to one of my coworkers, who has the S3, and he was commenting on how much faster it was than his phone.
So I'm not sure what the problem is there. Some sort of horrible bloatware?
- Frank
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This phone is like the Buggati of smartphones. It cant get faster than this atm....
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Take the trolling else where... We all know how the Note 2 actually functions!
zongamin said:
I went to try out the Note II in store today - and couldn't believe how laggy it was... I have the Original Note, which feels much faster in comparison.
I noticed lag on
Home Screen - jerky movement
App Drawer - jerky again
Gallery - Took 10 seconds to open, very jerky scroll
Home Button - 3 or 4 seconds to return to home
My note doesn't lag on any of these, even with the new 3D Gallery app.
This was in the UK, O2 store. I even tried it on two display models and they were just as bad
I reminded me of the horrible lag I used to get on the old Galaxy S with 2.2
Anyone else noticed this?
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Nope... its superfast!
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zongamin said:
I went to try out the Note II in store today - and couldn't believe how laggy it was... I have the Original Note, which feels much faster in comparison.
I noticed lag on
Home Screen - jerky movement
App Drawer - jerky again
Gallery - Took 10 seconds to open, very jerky scroll
Home Button - 3 or 4 seconds to return to home
My note doesn't lag on any of these, even with the new 3D Gallery app.
This was in the UK, O2 store. I even tried it on two display models and they were just as bad
I reminded me of the horrible lag I used to get on the old Galaxy S with 2.2
Anyone else noticed this?
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I hate lag & hope the reviews are correct that the Note2 is a game changer for Android sans the dreaded lag but did notice some YouTube Videos on ways to address stock device lag:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=samsung+note+2+speed+up
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=samsung+note+disable+s+voice
How to Remove Samsung Galaxy Note 2 Home Button Lag. S Voice Tips
I'd also recommend people reboot the device if possible when testing it in stores..
zongamin said:
I went to try out the Note II in store today - and couldn't believe how laggy it was... I have the Original Note, which feels much faster in comparison.
I noticed lag on
Home Screen - jerky movement
App Drawer - jerky again
Gallery - Took 10 seconds to open, very jerky scroll
Home Button - 3 or 4 seconds to return to home
My note doesn't lag on any of these, even with the new 3D Gallery app.
This was in the UK, O2 store. I even tried it on two display models and they were just as bad
I reminded me of the horrible lag I used to get on the old Galaxy S with 2.2
Anyone else noticed this?
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maybe it had all those app runing in the background since most ppl never close them
Mods please close this thread. The Note 2 is the smoothest phone I have ever held. A pure joy to use.
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Pathetic topic i hv ever seen...
Totally a waste of time reading this topic..
Fired From My FireDevice.
I have close to 150+ apps and widgets on my home screen and I have yet to experience what you are talking about.
But again in stores everyone mess around with a phone and God knows what they do it.
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Mods please close this thread. The Note 2 is the smoothest phone I have ever held. A pure joy to use.
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Not sure why the thread would need to be closed. The Op was simply asking a question based on his experience in a store. Some people need to relax!
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daz_2000 said:
Not sure why the thread would need to be closed. The Op was simply asking a question based on his experience in a store. Some people need to relax!
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I agree, some people take things a little to close to heart. But anyway in reply to the OP, I think that it was most likely because of everyone that uses the phone that goes through the store. I guarantee that thing has so many apps running in the background. If you go again, I say try to reboot it, and if you can't do that, try and close out as many apps as possible.
Obvious troll thread imo or the OP is a typical iPhone user in wich case he is not to blame as iPhones prevent you from using your brain
In defense of the OP I would say that I have noticed a very occasional lag once or twice when something has been running. For example running the premium version of printer share caused a massive drain on resources including battery and caused my device to hiccup. Also, I have noticed slowdowns with s-planner and netflix - both have frozen on me forcing at the least a force-close of the app and once a force reboot.
So, before too many people start jumping on the 'It's a troll, run for the hills' bandwagon, perhaps take a minute to realise that the stock device, while being simply awesome, fast, smooth and generally amazing is not completely bug free.
Just a thought.
Stock and Unrooted GNote 2 (for now.......)
kinsago said:
In defense of the OP I would say that I have noticed a very occasional lag once or twice when something has been running. For example running the premium version of printer share caused a massive drain on resources including battery and caused my device to hiccup. Also, I have noticed slowdowns with s-planner and netflix - both have frozen on me forcing at the least a force-close of the app and once a force reboot.
So, before too many people start jumping on the 'It's a troll, run for the hills' bandwagon, perhaps take a minute to realise that the stock device, while being simply awesome, fast, smooth and generally amazing is not completely bug free.
Just a thought.
Stock and Unrooted GNote 2 (for now.......)
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Can you name one perfect and flawless man-made item?
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Can you name one perfect and flawless man-made item?
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My point exactly...
I had the same experience in the Vodafone store, the note 2 on display almost came to a halt. I tried holding down the home button to see if there were many apps running but it wouldn't even bring up the task manager. Now I KNOW the note 2 is a beast but an 'average' consumer might have been put off by it.
I still can't make my mind up between this and the S3 LTE version that also comes with 2GB RAM.
Oh come on guys, these in store demo unist are left on for days and days and days without reboot, people mess around with them all day, they are a prime example of a phone at its worse, ram usage will be high, apps won't have been closed properly or at all etc etc.
Dude, turn off Power Saving mode.
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Telomeresis said:
Dude, turn off Power Saving mode.
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I use my phone most of the time with power saving mode, I have about 100 apps and my free ram is about 100Mo and I'm yet to experience any lag at all.
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Hello there, first time i write here but been reading a lot!
First, you need to know I own a galaxy s2 s3 s4 (all rooted) and my good friend has a note 3.
Also played a lot with nexus10 and the first galaxy note 10.1
I waited so long to buy the "perfect" tablet. Ipad is out of question even tho we know they are awesome tablet, i am a system administrator and i need Android.
So when i heard about the new note 10.1 2014, i was very existed because i REALLY like my s4 and my friend's note 3.
And i thought the s pen was awesome for a tablet (seeing my kid having fun drawing on their own picture is a +).
Well i convicted my girlfriend we need this, i started reading a lot of reviews and decided to buy because reviews are all saying the tablet was the best to compete vs the ipad.
I bought it brand new on eBay because there was no place i can buy it in Canada.
As soon as i received it, i found it run so damn slow. .. WAY slower than my s4.
I can live with the short battery life, that's not a big deal even tho the 2x quad core was supposed to help that (running on 1.3 while on hold to save battery).
Looks like it is always running on that 1.3ghz cpu now.
I did a factory default reset. .. Then a hard reset, nothing helped.
Runs great Sometimes, but sometimes I am note even able to browse picture on the default gallery. Still no apps installed! !!
My friend with the note 3 came here last night and was amazed to see how the screen has a bad responds to finger but very good with the pen. Also how it freezes and lags.
Now... is it only MY galaxy note ?
Should i send it to Samsung and hope it is going to be OK when i receive it back ?
Is it normal and should be all fixed with kit kat update ?
Or normal... They missed it so i should just throw it away ? If so... What else should i get ?
I very like the aspect. The home/menu/back buttons, the o/s (touch wiz), the nexus 10 was not that great even with kit kat, but runs so much faster.
I don't know what to do, i want a tablet with the s pen, but the hold note 3 is running smoother than my 2014 edition! !!
I guess i need help here !
And as i bought the item from usa eBay, I'll have to pay for the shipping to Samsung if i send them my tablet for repair !
Thank you very much for your help and advice !
Martin L.
Sure you have a problem, ignoring some performance stuff the device is very fast and have leading scores in benchmark
If you can, upload your benchmark scores
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Sure you have a problem, ignoring some performance stuff the device is very fast and have leading scores in benchmark
If you can, upload your benchmark scores
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It all seams to be random. .. Now the gallery works perfectly.
Really looks to be a problem switching from a cpu to the other and stays on the 1.3
Right now, while typing this, i got an error saying the gallery has stopped working! !
Any idea which benchmark i should use ?
See attached is the print screen of a benchmark. .. Perfect score, exactly what i was expecting from this tablet.
But it definitively does not feel like it!
genius312 said:
See attached is the print screen of a benchmark. .. Perfect score, exactly what i was expecting from this tablet.
But it definitively does not feel like it!
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What firmware version is installed on your new Note 2014?
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genius312 said:
Runs great Sometimes, but sometimes I am note even able to browse picture on the default gallery. Still no apps installed! !!
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I have no problems with the gallery app. Before I bought the Note, I had the Xperia Tablet Z for a short time and it was much slower in the Gallery app. My JPEGs usually are about 10 MByte each and browsing hundreds of them works very well on the Note.
Where do i find the firmware ?
Model Number is sm-p600
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Kernel 3.4.39-204073
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Where do i find the firmware?
version jss15j.p600ueub-----mk1
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You are on MK1 which is the latest in US as far as I'm aware.
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You have the current firmware, so that is not the issue. It is possible that you have a corrupted file somewhere that is causing a problem for an app.
To check this:
- Do have an SD card installed? If so, do the problems go away if you remove the card? I've seen cases (although, on earlier galaxy devices, not this one) where a corrupt jpeg file causes the gallery app to run constantly, slowing everything else down.
- You said it is always running at 1.3ghz. That could indicate a problem with an app running all the time in the background and slowing things down. When you are not using it for a while (e.g., at night) the CPU should slow down to deep sleep. If that is not happening and you want to figure which app running and keeping it at 1.3, trying downloading an app called BetterBatteryStats. It will show (after a bit of a learning curve) the CPU time for all your running apps.
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You have the current firmware, so that is not the issue. It is possible that you have a corrupted file somewhere that is causing a problem for an app.
To check this:
- Do have an SD card installed? If so, do the problems go away if you remove the card? I've seen cases (although, on earlier galaxy devices, not this one) where a corrupt jpeg file causes the gallery app to run constantly, slowing everything else down.
- You said it is always running at 1.3ghz. That could indicate a problem with an app running all the time in the background and slowing things down. When you are not using it for a while (e.g., at night) the CPU should slow down to deep sleep. If that is not happening and you want to figure which app running and keeping it at 1.3, trying downloading an app called BetterBatteryStats. It will show (after a bit of a learning curve) the CPU time for all your running apps.
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Thank you for your answer.
No sd card yet and i do not think i will need any. I have enough on my s4
I found the system slow so i did a factory reset from the menus.
It was still slow after so i did a hard reset.
If it is a corrupted file. .. That file is in the core files because the hard reset would have wipe it !
But it makes sense tho since the problem is random.
But every thing should be as smooth as the s4 and the note 3 ?
Not because it had a bigger screen. ..i should feel a little lag switching from photos to photos (or windows to windows) ?
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Not because it had a bigger screen.
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The bigger display area will make a difference. The N3 has a PPI of 386 and a 5.7" display. The N10.1-14 has a PPI of 299 and a 10.1" display. I'm too lazy to compute the actual display area but the N10.1-14's CPU/GPU is pushing at least 40% more pixels to the display.
I should feel a little lag switching from photos to photos (or windows to windows) ?
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The N3's much faster at transitions and app opening/closing than the N10.1-14. If you pinch-zoom to display all your home pages on the N3 it's fast; on the N10.1-14 not so much. I find that within apps the N10.1-14's fine and its performance reflects the high-end h/w. It'll stutter occasionally during a transition or in opening/closing apps but it's still plenty fast; at least to me. Hopefully performance will improve when we get 4.4/M-UX because the CES display units were impressively fast at pinch zooming and transitions.
Samsung's Gallery app has always had occasional indexing problems; especially with large numbers of photos and when cloud services are displayed in the Gallery. The next time it happens turn off Wi-Fi. It should instantly start responding normally. Once the indexing service has caught up the Gallery should be fine (until it indexes again).
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The bigger display area will make a difference. The N3 has a PPI of 386 and a 5.7" display. The N10.1-14 has a PPI of 299 and a 10.1" display. I'm too lazy to compute the actual display area but the N10.1-14's CPU/GPU is pushing at least 40% more pixels to the display.
The N3's much faster at transitions and app opening/closing than the N10.1-14. If you pinch-zoom to display all your home pages on the N3 it's fast; on the N10.1-14 not so much. I find that within apps the N10.1-14's fine and its performance reflects the high-end h/w. It'll stutter occasionally during a transition or in opening/closing apps but it's still plenty fast; at least to me. Hopefully performance will improve when we get 4.4/M-UX because the CES display units were impressively fast at pinch zooming and transitions.
Samsung's Gallery app has always had occasional indexing problems; especially with large numbers of photos and when cloud services are displayed in the Gallery. The next time it happens turn off Wi-Fi. It should instantly start responding normally. Once the indexing service has caught up the Gallery should be fine (until it indexes again).
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True, the N3 is a war machine !
But compared to my S4 then, it should at least be as fast !
I really like my S4, decent speed, never crashes.
Only holding the screen between 2 photos is lagging on the 10.1-14 !
But this is not my concern, the real problem is when it decides to run slower then my hold S2 !
And compared to the first gen 10.1, beside the interface which is way better on the 10.1-14, the speed seams faster on the old one and the touch screen works better with fingers too !
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True, the N3 is a war machine !
But compared to my S4 then, it should at least be as fast !
I really like my S4, decent speed, never crashes.
Only holding the screen between 2 photos is lagging on the 10.1-14 !
But this is not my concern, the real problem is when it decides to run slower then my hold S2 !
And compared to the first gen 10.1, beside the interface which is way better on the 10.1-14, the speed seams faster on the old one and the touch screen works better with fingers too !
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It is what it is my friend. You're running the latest U.S. s/w so unless you're having a h/w issue (doubtful) than the performance you're getting is the performance you're going to get. At least until updates hopefully speed of fluidity. The Tab/Note|Pro's running 4.4/M-UX appear significantly faster than the N10.1-14 and use the exact same h/w so the occasional lag we're seeing is curable with s/w.
Hopefully yes.
Is there any software I can install to see which CPU is running ?
Because when it runs great, I m happy with the little lag... not a big problem
But when it decides to stop, them everything is slow.
I see no updates running, if I empty the ram, it is still using 2.05 out of 3 ! ( I have 2 users)
Even switching from users to the other is slower then what I see on youtube (People showing that fonctionnality).
and WAAAY slower that the old nexus 10 I used.
Maybe the switching from 1 processor to the other is not perfect and gives problem a lot ...
Root and freeze or install all the bloat ware Inc my magazine. Download greenify and hibernate running apps, in developer options turn the animations to 0.5. Or try nova launcher too
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Root and freeze or install all the bloat ware Inc my magazine. Download greenify and hibernate running apps, in developer options turn the animations to 0.5. Or try nova launcher too
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Root and freeze or install all the bloat ware Inc my magazine. Download greenify and hibernate running apps, in developer options turn the animations to 0.5. Or try nova launcher too
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Not sure i understood it all. . But I'll try to decrypt.
I don't want to root it right now as I'm not sure i will keep it !!!
I know Nova launcher and was about to give it a try when i figured out the problem was not only the home screen. ..
Is it normal to be running almost all the time at 2.3gb out of 3 ?
I close all the apps on the 2 users, clear the ram and still running at 2.3-2.4gb
I only saw it once at 1.7!
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Not sure i understood it all. . But I'll try to decrypt.
I don't want to root it right now as I'm not sure i will keep it !!!
I know Nova launcher and was about to give it a try when i figured out the problem was not only the home screen. ..
Is it normal to be running almost all the time at 2.3gb out of 3 ?
I close all the apps on the 2 users, clear the ram and still running at 2.3-2.4gb
I only saw it once at 1.7!
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Yeah that sounds about right. You can go to settings > apps. >all. And click on the apps u don't use or u think could be running in the background and disable them. Also the less screen pages and widgets you have running the better. I'd recommend an app called clean master. It will clean your device. Before I rooted my ram was that hight but after rooting it can as low as 1.2. Generally on 1.5. And rarely goes over 2. Hope this helps
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Yeah that sounds about right. You can go to settings > apps. >all. And click on the apps u don't use or u think could be running in the background and disable them. Also the less screen pages and widgets you have running the better. I'd recommend an app called clean master. It will clean your device. Before I rooted my ram was that hight but after rooting it can as low as 1.2. Generally on 1.5. And rarely goes over 2. Hope this helps
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Se this morning it was at 1.9 Gb used out of 3 ! (2,71 in fact)
I have 3 apps opened now (facebook messenger, VLC et My Magazine) and I m using 2.54 ..... I think it s weird !
I only have 5 apps installed on it.
Also, I use swype to type text (slide my fingers through the keyboard) and sometimes it just doesn't work. I start sliding and it's like it cannot see my finger anymore. Works better with the pen again. Like I said previously, like it the screen has hard time to detect my finger on the screen.
Again, sometimes .. not always !
I think I m gonna see how much it will cost me to send it back to samsung and have it repaired .. I don't think all this is normal.
A lot of people say they bought tablets for 150$ and they works perfectly.
Yes mine does multi user, but at 150 I could have bought 4 of 'em + a lot of accessories !
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Se this morning it was at 1.9 Gb used out of 3 ! (2,71 in fact). I have 3 apps opened now (facebook messenger, VLC et My Magazine) and I m using 2.54 ..... I think it s weird ! I only have 5 apps installed on it.
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Don't confuse "apps" with "processes" and "services." Because of all Samsung's "stuff" (EG: Multi View, S Pen) there are a gazillion open processes running in the background anticipating being needed. If you go in to Task Manager and "clear RAM" you'll see 40-50 processes being closed. You really needn't worry about it because Android dynamically manages memory and if something in the foreground needs memory it'll prioritize what to close in the background. Also, Mali reserves probably 500MB for itself at all times so you never really had 3GB of RAM truly available. Samsung, not being a benevolent company, included 3GB of RAM in the N3 and N10.1-14 for a reason.
In other words, if you're having some type of performance issue it's highly doubtful it's being caused by RAM starvation.
Of course the ram is not the problem... even if there is only 300 mo free, that s enough to manage the program I run.
But I really hate when I cannot swipe to type, when the gallery is so buggy that I cannot browse my pictures ( 10 photos max... not linked with Dropbox or facebook), when I have to wait for the next page in the apps page, when I try to slide the page and it just doesn't t work.. have to do it twice or trice ... When I want to slide down the notifications but I have to try 3-5-6 or 7 times...
Switching pages in the S note take times...sometimes lag but that is not a problem for me... All the others tho really makes me feel like either that tablet is a crap or mine has a problem .
I would sincerely prefere the second
When it s not buggy it works great... but sooooo unstable
Hello XDA,
This is my first thread on XDA and I feel as if XDA is the place to come for all Android. Here, I was hoping to bring up some issues on the beautiful Note 4. Any fixes?
Snapdragon 805 not properly optimized?
There are a few example I can give for this. When using the swipe lock screen option, with the popping colors. If you briefly touch it, the colors would come up, but pay close attention to the colors that come up. At least a few of you should notice the FPS drop when the colors rise and begin to fade, and its not bad but its concerning considering the power this phone has. Also, playing Real Racing 3 is pretty much impossible with the horrid 20 FPS the game plays at, when an 801 runs it as smooth as butter. Concerning.
Of course, the laggy multitasking button (I think thats what its called)
This is a major issue a lot of Note 4 users have complained about. Pressing the on-the-phone-button to see what apps are open is really slow at times and its frustrating cause, once again, this phone is really awesome. Any fix on this? I turned briefing off (Even if I loved it).
The occasional stutter
Honestly, this is the only other issue I've seen with this device. The 805 possibly not being optimized is kind of the main issue I've seen with the entire devices stutters. The multitasking button as well being the issue. Do you guys know any fixes for these two issues, or news on it, confirmations?
I too am finding the Note 4 shockingly slow given the specs. Browsing the Web is like walking through quicksand. Scrolling Web pages lags and stutters.
I don't get it. I had an S5 for 2 weeks and it was MUCH faster than this. ?
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I've checked out the popping colors in lock screen and real racing. Both have no issues. How ever I do notice some lag with the Note 4.
imKorbi said:
Hello XDA,
This is my first thread on XDA and I feel as if XDA is the place to come for all Android. Here, I was hoping to bring up some issues on the beautiful Note 4. Any fixes?
Snapdragon 805 not properly optimized?
There are a few example I can give for this. When using the swipe lock screen option, with the popping colors. If you briefly touch it, the colors would come up, but pay close attention to the colors that come up. At least a few of you should notice the FPS drop when the colors rise and begin to fade, and its not bad but its concerning considering the power this phone has. Also, playing Real Racing 3 is pretty much impossible with the horrid 20 FPS the game plays at, when an 801 runs it as smooth as butter. Concerning.
Of course, the laggy multitasking button (I think thats what its called)
This is a major issue a lot of Note 4 users have complained about. Pressing the on-the-phone-button to see what apps are open is really slow at times and its frustrating cause, once again, this phone is really awesome. Any fix on this? I turned briefing off (Even if I loved it).
The occasional stutter
Honestly, this is the only other issue I've seen with this device. The 805 possibly not being optimized is kind of the main issue I've seen with the entire devices stutters. The multitasking button as well being the issue. Do you guys know any fixes for these two issues, or news on it, confirmations?
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No lag on real racing 3 here. Even when I was just rooted on stock Rom so I could use ps3 controller with rr3 and it was fine. And if games do lag, it's up to the game developer to optimize it for that processor, not the other way around. It's not like Sony designed their processor in a ps4 around games that don't exist yet. Don't know why u right off the bat blame the hardware when it is all software issues.
If any thing is Lagging is is the poorly optimized Sprint crap and other apps on the phone. The processor is working as it should as any benchmark will show. I really find it sad that everyone is always so quick to blame the hardware. Have any of you claiming lag this and stutter this run benchmarks? If you did you would see this hardware is running actually better than predicted.
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If any thing is Lagging is is the poorly optimized Sprint crap and other apps on the phone. The processor is working as it should as any benchmark will show. I really find it sad that everyone is always so quick to blame the hardware. Have any of you claiming lag this and stutter this run benchmarks? If you did you would see this hardware is running actually better than predicted.
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I have to agree.
Solarenemy68 said:
If any thing is Lagging is is the poorly optimized Sprint crap and other apps on the phone. The processor is working as it should as any benchmark will show. I really find it sad that everyone is always so quick to blame the hardware. Have any of you claiming lag this and stutter this run benchmarks? If you did you would see this hardware is running actually better than predicted.
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Lol, benchmarks? Honestly, who cares about benchmarks, especially when they can be so easily manipulated by how the manufacturer sets things up. Benchmarks are meaningless. All that matters is real world performance.
That being said I've done two things which seem to have improved my performance:
1. Running the Hybrid Rom. I recommend flashing back to the stock Sprint kernel as the included kernel was causing heat issues for me (YMMV).
2. Using Wanam Xposed to disable DVFS in Advanced Settings. This REALLY helped as it has on any Samsung device I've owned.
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sprint probably
I think its sprint. Some people have Verizon N4 and they have 0 lag on the phone and some dont. I dont know why, but its frustrating knowing that just because of my carrier means that my device will be slower then others. Any fixes?
And the reason why I said that the 805 may not be optimized is because there is another thread, might be on XDA, that talks about how the device slows down and speeds up the 805 at the wrong times in game with RR3.
So is it sprint?? And if there anyway around this unnecessary lag?
If you guys want me to take a video of my Note 4 with the lag I will do so and show you guys what I mean. FPS drop im popping colors occasionally and lag in multitasking button, sometimes im waiting 5 seconds for all the windows to pop up.
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I think its sprint. Some people have Verizon N4 and they have 0 lag on the phone and some dont. I dont know why, but its frustrating knowing that just because of my carrier means that my device will be slower then others. Any fixes?
And the reason why I said that the 805 may not be optimized is because there is another thread, might be on XDA, that talks about how the device slows down and speeds up the 805 at the wrong times in game with RR3.
So is it sprint?? And if there anyway around this unnecessary lag?
If you guys want me to take a video of my Note 4 with the lag I will do so and show you guys what I mean. FPS drop im popping colors occasionally and lag in multitasking button, sometimes im waiting 5 seconds for all the windows to pop up.
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Try disabling DVFS using Wanam Xposed Advanced Settings. May prevent throttling.
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Try disabling DVFS using Wanam Xposed Advanced Settings. May prevent throttling.
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Im sorry, how do I do this? Ive heard this a lot and I dont know how it works >.< Easy way to explaom it?? Or possibly a video?
You have to root your phone, then install Wanam Exposed.
This gives you a lot of flexibility on changing things with touchwiz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AESaWGWCvzY
There is a youtube with a basic overview of installing. After installing the framework, you would install Wanam, then in there is the settings you can tweak.
I got an update on my sprint note 4 on monday i believe it was and since that update i do not experience the lag i was having with the apps button , besides the normal half a second lag its supposed to have because if you hold that button down it opens the settings for what ever program you have running
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Thank you so far
Thanks guys Ill check out that video. Also, XDA mobile premium app wont open on my N4 either... Well.
Do you think the video will help??
Try this. No root needed.
Go to Settings > About Device > Build Number and tap the “Build Number” row 7 times.
This will reveal a “Developer Options” setting just above “About Device”- Enable it. Tap*“Window animation scale” and set to Off.
Tap “Transition animation scale” and set to Off.
Tap *“Animator duration scale” and set to Off
The default is usually 1X, so even lowering this to .5x should speed things up a bit.
Another thing you can try is disable S Voice by double tapping the home key.
App Settings > S Voice. Uncheck "Open via the home key."
Now when you press the home key, the phone won't be waiting to see if you are going to press it a second time.
One other option would be to switch from Dalvik to ART runtime.
Go back to Developer Options > Select runtime system. Select ART. phone will reboot and reload all your apps. The only problem I found with this is every time you reboot your phone, Android will update and reload all your apps. This will take a long time if you have a lot of apps.
Originally posted on Samsung members. This issue is now critical. If you care about this issue, I have created an issue under Samsung Members. Please post your experience and issues there and hopefully it gets the attention of Samsung
https://r1.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-Note/Android-10-Lag-on-Note10/td-p/3320184
Has anyone else seen noticeable Lag after updating to Android 10 in the galaxy s10 or Note10+.
Using the samsung launcher, there is lag when scrolling through the app drawer and multitasking.
I have tried,*
cleaning my dalvik cache
Removing my SD card
Updating all apps for android 10
And performing the built in device care optimization*
I think a performance update is needed to take care of this.
The multitasking lag becomes worse during the day until phone is restarted.*
Update 31012020: I finally decided to factory reset my phone. This did not work. I use nova launcher and uninstalled it as well. Lag still remains.
I have found that the lag only appears after about 20+ apps are in the recent apps menu. However this issue did not happen in Android 9. What is also interesting my moms s10 exhibits the same behaviour.
Further I have gone into developer options and when I set Animator level from 1x to 0x, the lag is gone. This is the only solution. However the downside to this is that instead of animations of loading wheels or progress bars, there is just a static circular arrow. I hope Samsunf fixes this issue.
Have had zero lag since updating to android 10. Never had any lag on pie either. Maybe its just an issue with your phone
I had alot of lag, everything lagged actually. The latest TMobile update fixed it for me.
I have had lag. Just opening simple apps like what's app and trying to start typing.
I have the very same issue on my Exynos Note 10. After the Android 10 update, app launcher and app switcher lag like it's 2006.
Lag in Note 10 +
Hi, just updated to 10 and it's really poor. Lag everywhere. Mostly between apps pages. But mostly everywhere. I'm in NZ with Spark Network. Personally feel this has to be fixed with an update.
moiza67 said:
Originally posted on Samsung members. This issue is now critical. If you care about this issue, I have created an issue under Samsung Members. Please post your experience and issues there and hopefully it gets the attention of Samsung
https://r1.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-Note/Android-10-Lag-on-Note10/td-p/3320184
Has anyone else seen noticeable Lag after updating to Android 10 in the galaxy s10 or Note10+.
Using the samsung launcher, there is lag when scrolling through the app drawer and multitasking.
I have tried,*
cleaning my dalvik cache
Removing my SD card
Updating all apps for android 10
And performing the built in device care optimization*
I think a performance update is needed to take care of this.
The multitasking lag becomes worse during the day until phone is restarted.*
Update 31012020: I finally decided to factory reset my phone. This did not work. I use nova launcher and uninstalled it as well. Lag still remains.
I have found that the lag only appears after about 20+ apps are in the recent apps menu. However this issue did not happen in Android 9. What is also interesting my moms s10 exhibits the same behaviour.
Further I have gone into developer options and when I set Animator level from 1x to 0x, the lag is gone. This is the only solution. However the downside to this is that instead of animations of loading wheels or progress bars, there is just a static circular arrow. I hope Samsunf fixes this issue.
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Had exactly the same issue on my note 10+ (exynos).. after complaining about the issue I saw a post that mentioned that some apps with the permission to display on top was the culprit. In my case, after disabling this permission of dashlane it fixed the problem. Are you using dashlane?
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yugoport said:
Had exactly the same issue on my note 10+ (exynos).. after complaining about the issue I saw a post that mentioned that some apps with the permission to display on top was the culprit. In my case, after disabling this permission of dashlane it fixed the problem. Are you using dashlane?
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Hey,
I am using lastpass, which does require the appear on top permission.
Solution:
update 04022020. I finally got rid of the lag. I installed the Samsung Goodlock app from the Galaxy app store and installed the task changer plugin. I then set my task manager to be displayed as a grid. but you can change it to any style.
the Goodlock app and plugin are designed by Samsung. this leads me to believe there is something wrong with the stock animation in the app switcher.
Good fix for task switcher, but it doesn't solve the app pages speed issue. Samsung need to release a fix
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Solved it ! for me, it's definitely 3rd party apps that run in the background. Check your permissions and what has accesses to your phone. For me a block site app that has accessablility access was the culprit.
Spamsung, up to his old tricks, got a nope10 rooted up and have been good, except for all the other spammy DOWNGRADES( samFAIL needs somthing to fkeep you coming back for a new fix) what a twisted guy!
As the sob story goes, if anyone cares to hear the drama from spammy's momma lol
Been on Android 9 and staying, unless spammy forces his spam on me?
So can't search for this problem with Android 9 because everything shows up as note 10 upgrade Android 10, of course when trying to -Android10 it also takes away anything for nope10 results ? so for the past couple hours feels like I am back using my old HTC 4g( that's what I all an upgrade!!) I didn't do anything new just reset the phone because battery ran out, so much lag now ?
Treid changing animation from 1x to none
did not work
Update :
So this happened for a couple days and without any making changes, now today without making any changes everything is back to normal. So my guess is that because of the virus spammy let's the powers that be get inside your phone and spied on creating all this lag, it actually took me initially 7 minutes to type the first part of this message because the lag was so bad.
This is spamsung at his best!
#spamsung for the inside scoop?
I used to have this issue on a nope 8, and I noticed whenever it happened when I had more than say 30+forefox pages open, but now it's happening in the note 10+ saying that ram is using 7.5gb lol
And when in i used a task manager it would show - 1million kb boost to stop apps running and forefox had all that negitve - 1million + kb's on it but now it's showing Firefox with only 189mb but the boost is still at 1m+ lol
I don't know what anybody's talking about with lag this thing's a beast! Try beast mode kernel too little bit of battery loss but **** it who cares it's so damn snappy I can't see straight when I'm playing with my phone
Odd, odd, I have never, ever experienced anything of the sort in any of my samsung devices, since the S3, I currently own a note 10+ running android 10, it behaves exactly as day one, so, the cause must be something not related to official firmwares issued by samsung
Which apps are lagging?
Could scope storage be the culprit?
I'm still on Pie and it remains very fast and rock solid stable phone.
There's a lot I don't like about 10 and 11.
Funny Google is preaching security with their OS "improvements" when Goggle is one of the worst data miners there is.