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Okay my phone was refreshed and I had to reinstall all my apps. I can't see google talk in the app marketplace. I also can't find it on appbrain.
I searched around for a while to try to figure out what was going on, but can't find much other information about it.
I doubt the app was pulled or i would have probably heard of it.
Can i get a QR code or link to the appstore or an APK or appbrain?
I wish I knew as well. I ended up reflashing my rom to get it back...
OP.... what you need to do is download a rom and extract it.
go into the folder " sytem" then "apps"
get the talk.apk our and either adb install it or put it on your SD card and use root explorer to move it to the system/apps folder on your phone.
Hope this helps
hmmm why would I need to do this? was it pulled from the android marketplace for some reason? i'm just curious, i'm pretty sure I had to load it on my phone before from the marketplace.
i probably will just end up using another messaging client, because I don't really want to go through all that for an app I don't use very much.
in any case thanks for the advice, i'm glad to hear i'm not the only one who can't find it..
It has been included in every ROM I've installed. Maybe find it in the gapps pack for Cyanogen?
I'm not even rooted... i'm not using a custom rom.. i'm just using the stock sprint issued evo.
I was having issues with the phone and they restored it to factory defaults which made me lose my apps. The last time i rooted was the intial unrevoked (which later was lost with an OTA update)
No idea what to tell you then. Talk is part of the Google apps that are included with the phone. Most every ROM I have installed includes it. Cyanogen doesn't include a lot of these because they aren't allowed to be distributed by third parties and their team is good about sticking within the rules.
If something screwed up you should just factory reset the phone if you only want stock. Better yet, do a proper root and install whatever app you want
http://cyanogenmod-mirror.local.host.name/gapps/gapps-hdpi-20101025-signed.zip. Must be rooted to flash obviously. Do not know if this zip will work with Sense ROMs. It contains all Google apps (Market, Talk, Google Voice, etc.) Good luck. Not guaranteed that this will work. Use at own risk. Do a backup first.
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No idea what to tell you then. Talk is part of the Google apps that are included with the phone. Most every ROM I have installed includes it. Cyanogen doesn't include a lot of these because they aren't allowed to be distributed by third parties and their team is good about sticking within the rules.
If something screwed up you should just factory reset the phone if you only want stock. Better yet, do a proper root and install whatever app you want
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ah i see my problem, i am an idiot. google talk IS preinstalled on the phone. i kept thinking i had to install it, couldnt find it in the market and gave up. i didn't even think to look in the app list on the phone....
that said, yea its about time that i did a proper root. ill have to read up a bit to be sure its easy enough- i have all the OTA updates, and htne ill go for it.
thanks for the replies!
So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.
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So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.
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I know the difference from freezing and uninstalling is that freezing halts the app from running and removes it from your app list. If you are uninstalling something you think is bloat, back it up first, in case it screws things up you can restore it. Freeze is a good way to test whether or not you want to just simply uninstall it.
Titanium Backup Pro is totally worth the few bucks though if you can afford it.. a real good buy..
As far as the other stuff, I don't mess with system/app things so maybe someone else can help with that.
For the green-coloured apps, I would make sure I have an alternate app that can take care of that feature of the phone. For example you can remove the camera app, but without a replacement/alternate app your phone won't have a camera function.
TBP is the perfect app to test whether an app is good to remove. Just freeze it and see if your phone acts up. My understanding is that freezing=not letting an app run, uninstalling=getting rid of it.
In terms of not having the permission to copy files in the system directories, you may need to install a terminal emulator to change the permissions and do the copying manually.
Thank you guys and sorry for the very late reply. Using TBP i was able to FREEZE many apps, decided to go this route, i was and still am abit afraid of damaging something and not being able to go back and fix it.
However, i still have a few situations. Even freeze so many apps my battery still dies very fax with little use i give the phone. I also see the following apps under my memory usage and i do not know what they are and if they can be froze too to even get more memory back.
Enterprise VPN Service
IPService
SIM Toolkit
CSC
Bluetoothtest (i know that is the bluetooth but do not know if there is a way to freeze this program)
Google Services Framework
Package Access Helper
com.sec.android.providers.d
Download manager
Samsung Account
My Uploads
com.movial.ipprovider
Badgeprovider
Device Management
Systeme manager application
Popupiureceiver
Mobilelife Contacts
smartcardservice
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So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.
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for s voice there is flashable zip in that thread. Its garbage compared to siri in my opinion.
Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?
dragonfire665 said:
Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?
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Flash Darkside Cache Wipe in recovery.
now im on stock, this will not damage any of my stock roms or anything within it, correct?
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Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?
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Darkside Cache Wipe worked for me.
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Flash Darkside Cache Wipe in recovery.
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Atmazzz i want to say thank you. Doing what you said helped my hang. I do not have that problem anymore. But i am wondering if fixing the permission could have be the cause i lost S Voice talkback feature. What i mean, is that after doing the wipe cache/dalvik and fixing permissiong, now my S Voice does not talk back to me. No matter how many time i restart the phone or whatever i do, it wont talk anymore.
On another note, thanks to you, i have come to understand more about all the rooting. All i have to do now is soon gets some strength and install a new rom than stock. But there are so many, i do not know which one to use. Especially with the official ICS i bet they are better now.
I just also hope that neither of the rom come with the bricking problem. As far as i read it only happens when using ICS kernel and my phone is 0X12 so i get worry.
Okay, what the hell?! Every now and again (usually when I'm running Dolphin Browser and/or trying to cut/copy/paste) I get a floating notification at the bottom of the screen that says 'shell has been granted Superuser permissions'! It flashes a few times and then my phone restarts. When it turns back on, I have to restart Juice Defender and SwiftKey (default keyboard ALWAYS comes back, even if I shut down or restart myself!) manually. I went into the Superuser application the other day and there was nothing in there by the name of 'shell.' In fact, the only two things I have granted Superuser permissions to are Titanium Backup and the Android System (is this the culprit, I wonder). Either way, this problem has become a real pain in my ass. It always happens at the most inconvenient times. I would really, REALLY appreciate a solution to this problem.
Also, I have my phone set up just the way I like it, as far as the layout and what not. I've only rooted my phone, I have not replaced the G/UI or OS. If I backup my phone on Kies, wipe it and restore the backup, will it restore the root, Superuser, etc? Or just my apps, data, UI layout and what not? I'm beginning to think that I don't know enough about rooting, or just have horrible luck with it, and need to just run the phone stock. Is there a way to root, delete bloatware and unroot?
Thanks in advance for the help! I appreciate it.
KL
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Seriously? No one knows anything about this? There's another post about the same problem that has also gone unanswered.
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Okay, what the hell?! Every now and again (usually when I'm running Dolphin Browser and/or trying to cut/copy/paste) I get a floating notification at the bottom of the screen that says 'shell has been granted Superuser permissions'! It flashes a few times and then my phone restarts. When it turns back on, I have to restart Juice Defender and SwiftKey (default keyboard ALWAYS comes back, even if I shut down or restart myself!) manually. I went into the Superuser application the other day and there was nothing in there by the name of 'shell.' In fact, the only two things I have granted Superuser permissions to are Titanium Backup and the Android System (is this the culprit, I wonder). Either way, this problem has become a real pain in my ass. It always happens at the most inconvenient times. I would really, REALLY appreciate a solution to this problem.
Also, I have my phone set up just the way I like it, as far as the layout and what not. I've only rooted my phone, I have not replaced the G/UI or OS. If I backup my phone on Kies, wipe it and restore the backup, will it restore the root, Superuser, etc? Or just my apps, data, UI layout and what not? I'm beginning to think that I don't know enough about rooting, or just have horrible luck with it, and need to just run the phone stock. Is there a way to root, delete bloatware and unroot?
Thanks in advance for the help! I appreciate it.
KL
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda app-developers app
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Does it happen every time you copy paste something? Have you tied other browsers to copy paste from?
Something could have happened during rooting. I assume you have a cusom recovery? I might try and flash Chainfire's root method found here http://download.chainfire.eu/324/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.30.zip It will just overwrite the supersu and the su binaries.
If that doesn't do anything for ya I would Odin back to the stock rooted ROM found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426 and start over. Or try one of many great custom ROM that are available.
I don't know what else you could do. If you could get a logcat it would definitely help find out why you are having these issues, and actually solve them. There are plenty of resources on how to obtain a logcat here on xda. Or try an app from the store to save the logcat. PM me with the attachment and I will look at it for you.
I could be totally wrong. BUT I think its samsung doing it. When I denied it permissions it restarted. I did it again and it did the same. I think its intertwined b.c I never had it with AOSP roms
Dear internet community,
i would like to adress my problems concerning the installation of Xposed and GravityBox on my Fairphone. You must know that this is my very first smartphone and i dont really know how to use them yet. But i know that i would like to be able to change my Locksreen wallpaper, whÃch is the only intention for me to try to install Xposed in the first place.
So lets get to the nuts and bolts:
Firstly i tried to "unroot" my phone (of which i dont have any clue what that might mean), but the program i used (universal unroot) gave me this message upon trying: "please allow root access now. If you cant allow root access your device is most likely not rooted". At this point i dont know if i am able to allow root acess to that program, which ist rediculous in itself since this program should allow me to do that in the first place. I checked in the settings but couldnt find anything that looked like root access.
The next step was to install Xposed (version 2.6.1 and then 2.7 both with the same result). After the installation and the reboot, Xposed states unter the "Framework" category that: "the latest version of Xposed is currently not active (my app manager tells me it is). Did you install the framework and reboot?". Again i did the reboot and i installed it. If try to go further into the Framework menu and press the "install/update"-button it tells me: "failed to get root access. make sure your device is rooted properly and you have not blocked shell commands".
My question now is: do you have a solution for my problem? I would be very thankfull and appreciative if you would offer me a solution, since my intentional desire of changing the Lockscreen Wallpaper is such a small thing that it is quite hillaours as to how much effort has to be put in to change this small detail. Please dear community, help me out!
With kind regards
Alex
Hi Alex,
AdmirAlex said:
Firstly i tried to "unroot" my phone (of which i dont have any clue what that might mean), but the program i used (universal unroot) gave me this message upon trying: "please allow root access now. If you cant allow root access your device is most likely not rooted". At this point i dont know if i am able to allow root acess to that program, which ist rediculous in itself since this program should allow me to do that in the first place. I checked in the settings but couldnt find anything that looked like root access.
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First of all: I see no point in "unrooting" my device. Since you said, you don't have any clue what that might mean, maybe this helps.
The term "root" is comparable to the "admin rights" on your computer. Some people do not need those rights. But If you don't need it just don't use it. If you "unroot" your device, what you do is, you throw away those admin rights. I don't see why you want to do this. The only reason which comes to my mind, is if you want your manufacture to repair your phone using your warranty. They basically don't like it if your phone is rooted, and say it violates the warranty conditions. But then again: fairphone comes pre-rooted, so having root does not void the warranty of your fairphone.
Usually if a program wants to have those root(/admin) rights, a screen pops up where you have to confirm that the app might use those rights.
If you want to know for what root rights can be good for, just google "rooting android" or something like that to read up on that topic.
AdmirAlex said:
The next step was to install Xposed (version 2.6.1 and then 2.7 both with the same result). After the installation and the reboot, Xposed states unter the "Framework" category that: "the latest version of Xposed is currently not active (my app manager tells me it is). Did you install the framework and reboot?". Again i did the reboot and i installed it. If try to go further into the Framework menu and press the "install/update"-button it tells me: "failed to get root access. make sure your device is rooted properly and you have not blocked shell commands".
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Seems like you are actually unrooted. To use xposed and all its cool modules you need to have root rights. Unrooting your phone to use xposed is just contra productive. Maybe install SuperSU to re-gain root rights. But maybe you need to re-flash your OS.
AdmirAlex said:
My question now is: do you have a solution for my problem? I would be very thankfull and appreciative if you would offer me a solution, since my intentional desire of changing the Lockscreen Wallpaper is such a small thing that it is quite hillaours as to how much effort has to be put in to change this small detail. Please dear community, help me out!
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Wait, what? Did I understand correctly, that you unrooted your phone to use an app that requires root so that you can change your lockscreen background?
Dude, you can do this in the settings without any root/unroot/xposed stuff.
As you said it is just a small detail, and such a standard feature, so it would be CRAZY if you need to go through such a hassle.
Just go into settings and somewhere in the display or lockscreen settings you can choose a background (you might need to disable the mood background for this). I do not have my fairphone anymore, so I cannot tell you where exactly that option is. Maybe someone else can point to the the exact location of that setting.
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...Maybe someone else can point to the the exact location of that setting.
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I can't find any option for a different lockscreen image on my FP - only normal background image (wich is then also used for lockscreen, if I have mood background disabled). So I would also suggest GravityBox, which seems to be a too complex topic for your first smartphone ever...
dirtycutmaster said:
I can't find any option for a different lockscreen image on my FP - only normal background image (wich is then also used for lockscreen, if I have mood background disabled). So I would also suggest GravityBox, which seems to be a too complex topic for your first smartphone ever...
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I know that this option is there. I had a custom lockscreen background (without using some xposed module like gravitybox). I will check with a friend who has a Fairphone, and tell you where the setting is.
I am sorry. Apparently I was mistaken. Changing the lockscreen background to a different wallpaper than the homescreen background seems not to be possible. You can just choose between mood background or not. I thought I had two different backgrounds while I had my Fairphone, but seems like I was wrong. sorry
Why is this not implemented? What I know for sure is that is a feature in CM and and Samsungs stock android version. I do not know about AOSP android.
Thanks for your feedback, Hyst!
I second your question about the missing implementation, but that's quite in a row with some other phone's stock features I am missing on the FP - e.g. a more solid gps, special character search in contacts and some other things other phones can do. Then I remember, Fairphone is still quite new on the market and neither has the experience nor the financial background to act like e.g. Samsung would do. And taken that into account, I'm sure they will grow with the requirements...
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Hi Alex,
First of all: I see no point in "unrooting" my device. Since you said, you don't have any clue what that might mean, maybe this helps.
The term "root" is comparable to the "admin rights" on your computer. Some people do not need those rights. But If you don't need it just don't use it. If you "unroot" your device, what you do is, you throw away those admin rights. I don't see why you want to do this. The only reason which comes to my mind, is if you want your manufacture to repair your phone using your warranty. They basically don't like it if your phone is rooted, and say it violates the warranty conditions. But then again: fairphone comes pre-rooted, so having root does not void the warranty of your fairphone.
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Yeah i know now why the Phone needs to be rooted in order to work in a way i would like it to.
Seems like you are actually unrooted. To use xposed and all its cool modules you need to have root rights. Unrooting your phone to use xposed is just contra productive. Maybe install SuperSU to re-gain root rights. But maybe you need to re-flash your OS.
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So atm the only viable solution that i could find is to reflash the Android of my phone. I tried to but the installation progress aborts itself so i am not able to reflash atm. The Fairphone support team got a mail from me, so lets wait and see.
Wait, what? Did I understand correctly, that you unrooted your phone to use an app that requires root so that you can change your lockscreen background?
Dude, you can do this in the settings without any root/unroot/xposed stuff.
As you said it is just a small detail, and such a standard feature, so it would be CRAZY if you need to go through such a hassle.
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Now in a later post of yours you said that it is not possible. But i qould like to go into why i unrooted my phone. I was watching a Video from this site and misunderstood what has been said. I unrooted my phone, thinking that this would be necessary to make Xposed work. By that time i didnt really know how all of this works. I know its a rookie mistake and a "stupid" one, but i learned something and i am okay with it.
The next task now is to reflash my phone. Maybe you guys have an idea as to why it wont work: I followed the instructions on the Fairphone website and it still aborts during installation.
Edit: I am not allowed to linkt external websites, so i cant give you the video and fairphone installation guide links.
Greetings
Alex
Hope I didn't get it completely wrong but just wanna throw in another idea: why don't you reset your phone to factory settings? Reflashing it sounds like a lot of work for a beginner like you.. (Didn't do it either)
Since the phone is/was rooted from release on, resetting it should do the charme, imo. If you don't have a lot of files to lose I'd try that.
PS: really funny how complicated it got for you since your main intention was to change the lockscreen wallpaper )
PPS: follow this http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Fairphone_Fairphone/Guides#How_to_partition_your_Fairphone from the 4th point on
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Hope I didn't get it completely wrong but just wanna throw in another idea: why don't you reset your phone to factory settings? Reflashing it sounds like a lot of work for a beginner like you.. (Didn't do it either)
Since the phone is/was rooted from release on, resetting it should do the charme, imo. If you don't have a lot of files to lose I'd try that.
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Yeah, i tred that a couple of times, but it wouldnt remove the unroot
PPS: follow this http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Fairphone_Fairphone/Guides#How_to_partition_your_Fairphone from the 4th point on
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Thanks for the link, i will try that in the meantime
PS: That, unfortunately, didnt do the trick
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Since the Fairphone support hasn't replied yet, i tried another solution, but i need to ask you guys for help. I was following the instructions in the Fairphone wiki under the "How to restore Fairphone if you totally bricked it" topic. All the necessary files and programes are downloaded. Now when i choose the scatter file of the fairphone binarys the program gives me this message: "Error initialising scatter file failed. Please check the name of scatter file which you load is legal". if i press the download button the program gives me this message: "Download list is empty, please select a scatter file before executing"
I really dont get this. The fairphone binarys are supposed to work with this program, yet they are not. Can anyone help? Is there something really pbvious i have overlooked?
Greetz
Alex
Bump --> Please help me to figure out the SP Flash tool. To see the details check the post above
Thank you sooo much
AdmirAlex said:
Please help me to figure out the SP Flash tool.
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I don't think you need to go through that mouch trouble as you're still able to use your phone (if I understood that correctly).
How about re-installing the Fairphone software from recovery? There's a nice guide on how to do that at:
fairphone.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202478028-Manually-install-Fairphone-OS-software-update-version-Cherry-1-6
Afterwards the superuser binaries should be back and you will have root access again.
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I don't think you need to go through that mouch trouble as you're still able to use your phone (if I understood that correctly).
How about re-installing the Fairphone software from recovery? There's a nice guide on how to do that at:
fairphone.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202478028-Manually-install-Fairphone-OS-software-update-version-Cherry-1-6
Afterwards the superuser binaries should be back and you will have root access again.
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Thanks for the hint, but that exact process does not work, since the update aborts itself giving an error message but not specifiying on which error exactly cause it to abort... I am frustrated at this point.
Greetings
Alex
AdmirAlex said:
Thanks for the hint, but that exact process does not work, since the update aborts itself giving an error message but not specifiying on which error exactly cause it to abort... I am frustrated at this point.
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Which Fairphone model do you have? If it's the old one (from last year's batch), did you already use the repartitioning tool to "unify" your internal storage? Which update did you try to apply (exact filename)?
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Which Fairphone model do you have? If it's the old one (from last year's batch), did you already use the repartitioning tool to "unify" your internal storage? Which update did you try to apply (exact filename)?
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Its the second Batch phone, so the FP1U. I tried it with almost any OS given on the homepage. Those are the ones i tried:
OTA_AOSP-4.2.2_2014-08-05.zip
Fairphone_FP1_OS_v1_6_OTA_2014-07-31.zip
Fairphone_Cherry_1.6_FUSE_Image_2014-07-31.zip
Fairphone_FP1_OS_1G13G_v1_6_OTA_2014-07-31.zip
The Fairphone updater tells me that my phone is running the "Chenpi" version 1.5 which i cannot find on the hompage (thats strange isnt't it?)
What else could be done here?
Greetings and thank you very much for your ideas so far!
Alex
AdmirAlex said:
Fairphone_FP1_OS_v1_6_OTA_2014-07-31.zip
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Applying that one from recovery clearly should have worked. I've even used it myself with my (already repartitioned) first batch phone.
If you want to be sure the .zip file you downloaded is not corrupted, compute its MD5 checksum. If you're under Windows, use a tool like heise.de/download/md5summer.html
Under Linux, just use md5sum <filename>
The checksum should match the one found on Fairphone's software update page: 664ca09368a4c922a12dc2526afe092b
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The Fairphone updater tells me that my phone is running the "Chenpi" version 1.5 which i cannot find on the hompage (thats strange isnt't it?)
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1.5 is the version your phone was shipped with, I think. As they issued the update to 1.6 just a few days after the new phones started shipping, I guess they thought putting only the new image up on their website was enough.
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Applying that one from recovery clearly should have worked. I've even used it myself with my (already repartitioned) first batch phone.
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The awesome support Team worked something out and my phone is finally rerooted! Now, i have installed Xposed, rebooted it, installed Gravitybox, rebooted it and both programs are working fine. After some fiddling around it finally has worked!! For most of you it might seem to be a small thing and really not that important, but for me it is. Honestly the only two things i really use to personalize the phone is the Wallpaper / Lockscreen and the WakeupCall ringtone.
Thank you so much for all of your support and patience!
Greetings
Alex
I just ordered this beautiful tablet. I've never owned a tablet before. I've actually always wanted a laptop, but things are changing. I have an Amazon Kindle Fire HD from many years ago. It's actually worked pretty well for me for ebook reading, limited web browsing and email using. But, the last few months it's really started acting funny and not working right. So I've decided it's time to upgrade. Did a week's worth of research and decided this is my best option. I haven't received it yet, but I'm really excited to dig in and do a lot more than I can with my Kindle.
So that brings me here. I don't remember where, but through my research on which tablet to buy, this website was mentioned as a major resource. To be completely honest, I'm 100% lost. There are things I want to do but I don't even know where to start. I love tinkering and figuring things out, but I need a little push in the right direction.
One of the biggest things I want to be able to do is make a complete low level backup of the entire system to store on my home server should anything happen and I need to restore it.
The other big thing I want to do is remove all the excess junk that comes pre-installed that I'll never use. With such a small area of space available, having half or so used up in unnecessary stuff is just pointless.
I'm sure there are other things I can do and may want to do in the future, but for now, these are the major keys. So... any help? Did I make the right choice? What other features/functions should I be looking at or considering?
Thanks guys! Looking forward to getting a lot of great use out of my new tablet and this site.
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I just ordered this beautiful tablet. I've never owned a tablet before. I've actually always wanted a laptop, but things are changing. I have an Amazon Kindle Fire HD from many years ago. It's actually worked pretty well for me for ebook reading, limited web browsing and email using. But, the last few months it's really started acting funny and not working right. So I've decided it's time to upgrade. Did a week's worth of research and decided this is my best option. I haven't received it yet, but I'm really excited to dig in and do a lot more than I can with my Kindle.
So that brings me here. I don't remember where, but through my research on which tablet to buy, this website was mentioned as a major resource. To be completely honest, I'm 100% lost. There are things I want to do but I don't even know where to start. I love tinkering and figuring things out, but I need a little push in the right direction.
One of the biggest things I want to be able to do is make a complete low level backup of the entire system to store on my home server should anything happen and I need to restore it.
The other big thing I want to do is remove all the excess junk that comes pre-installed that I'll never use. With such a small area of space available, having half or so used up in unnecessary stuff is just pointless.
I'm sure there are other things I can do and may want to do in the future, but for now, these are the major keys. So... any help? Did I make the right choice? What other features/functions should I be looking at or considering?
Thanks guys! Looking forward to getting a lot of great use out of my new tablet and this site.
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Root with chain fire root, flash via Odin.
This will allow you to have root access allowing you to remove unwanted app amongst other things
Flash via Odin: TWRP Recovery for Chagallwifi (assuming it's a Samsung T800)
This will allow you to create a back up.
I believe the order of this can be inverted. IE. Flash recovery with Odin and then have TWRP flash the CFAutoroot zip and the SuperSU (the app that will "manage" your root)
Install Titanium Back up and freeze/uninstall unwanted apps. There are lists of removable apps on the forums. I prefer to freeze but it's up to you.
!!!Make a backup prior to this step!!!
Will update post when I am home with more suggestion's.
Thanks, that's somewhat helpful. At least it give me the names of programs. I have no idea what I'm doing though. Can you give me a link to a step-by-step guide, or at least explain what the different things are and what they do? Sorry for being such a noob with this.
Instructions
MAKE SURE TO DOWNLOAD THE FILES FOR YOUR SPECIFIC DEVICE (T700, T705, T800, T805, etc.)
You will need Odin (This is the software that will allow you to install the root and other files [FLASHING])
CF-AutoRoot (Will provide Root access for your device): You will be flashing this with Odin
Optional: Install custom recovery TWRP. This is also done with Odin. This will allow you to make backups and flash .zip files, including custom roms, apps, etc.
Just google for guides on rooting Samsung Galaxy Tab S. They will show you step by step on how to do the Odin flashing, PDA, settings, autoreset or not, etc.
I recommend backing up your device at this point. Reboot into recovery (instructions will be in the rooting guides), go to backup and backup everything for now. In the future when you feel comfortable enough that you can/will select to only backup what you deem necessary.
Your device is now rooted, the first boot after installing CFAutoRoot will take awhile +/-3 - 5 minutes.
Now download Titanium Backup, and you can google or search XDA for a list of "safe" things to uninstall. Just go into TitaniumBackup and look for the app you want to Freeze (This will prevent the app from running but it will NOT delete it, thus it will still take up space) or Remove.
Busybox: Will be required by certain apps.
Optional:
Link2SD App, this allows you to install/move/link your apps to the SD Card, it essentially frees up your internal memory of the device and tricks the device into installing apps and their data files onto your second partition of your External SD Card (Google or Search XDA for guides on Link2SD). This will allow you to install a lot more apps than you normally would be able to. (Example: Vice City, San Andreas, Plants vs Zombies, etc. I mention these because of their large data size). Not all apps will work when linked, just trial and error. I can't seem to get Word, Excel, Powerpoint linked to my SD Card without at least one of the failing, same with Facebook. You will have to test each app and see what files you can link/bind and which you can't.
Adblock Plus: Self explanatory
Xposed: A bunch of customization options for your device
ES File Explorer Pro: The best file management/directory app IMO
Greenify: Battery saver
Aptoide: Secondary App Store
Hancom Apps: I feel these work better on occasion then the Microsoft Office apps (Example large excel files with multiple formulas and filters)
NovaLauncher: Custom launcher, a lot more customizations then TouchWiz will provide you. (Your home screen)
Tasker: Limitless possibilities with this app (Search google/XDA for info)
TWRP Manager: TWRP Recovery app.
VLC: Video player
4way_multiwindow: This will allow you to have 4 apps open at a time and 3 apps "minimized", this also allows floating windows (Moveable apps running in "windowed mode" essentially.) There is an aesthetic bug when minimized, I have not found a fixed version of this yet, maybe others can provide link. Just load up TWRP manager and choose install, and select the .zip file and it will reboot into recovery and install the file for you. Or you can boot your device into recovery and install it the same way. I am attaching the .zip file.
If you are happy with your device up to this point, I would create another backup after you are done with the initial set up and have installed the apps of your choosing. Save a copy on the device, PC, NAS, etc. just in case you lose one of your copies. Some TWRP versions do not allow you to backup directly to the external SD Card, you may have to backup into the Internal and then transfer the information over to the external SD Card.
Good Luck.
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Root with chain fire root, flash via Odin.
This will allow you to have root access allowing you to remove unwanted app amongst other things
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Is this the link I should be using? I'll know for sure what it's model number is once I receive the tablet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/root-cf-autoroot-twrp-t800-t3079488
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Flash via Odin: TWRP Recovery for Chagallwifi (assuming it's a Samsung T800)
This will allow you to create a back up.
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Doesn't installing Chain Fire Root via the previous link also contain the TWRP Recovery? Or is this a special version I need to install after running the first root through Odin? What is Chagallwifi?
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I believe the order of this can be inverted. IE. Flash recovery with Odin and then have TWRP flash the CFAutoroot zip and the SuperSU (the app that will "manage" your root)
Install Titanium Back up and freeze/uninstall unwanted apps. There are lists of removable apps on the forums. I prefer to freeze but it's up to you.
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This is just an app I get from the Google Play store right? Or is there a special version I need to get, or install manually? I think I saw in a YouTube video that I need to install something called GApps if I want install something from there after rooting, is this correct? Also, if Titanium Backup IS an app, how can I get a backup of the entire system when I'm booted into the OS? I think I read somewhere, or saw screenshots that show this basically creates backups of your installed programs, so you can easily restore them without having to re-download them. Maybe I'm wrong, as I said I'm completely new this and probably don't know what I'm talking about.
My biggest concern is that I'll screw something up and find myself with a tablet I can't use, without having had it no more than a couple days, and having spent nearly $600 for it and the accessories. I know that rooting/etc voids the warranty, but I also have seen where people are able to put the whole system back to factory default for repairs, etc. That sounds like something I really need to learn how to do and be confident I can do should something happen.
Thanks again for any help!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/root-cf-autoroot-twrp-t800-t3079488
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This link works, although there are newer versions of TWRP, you can install these after however, no big deal.
Doesn't installing Chain Fire Root via the previous link also contain the TWRP Recovery? Or is this a special version I need to install after running the first root through Odin? What is Chagallwifi?
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The previous link contains TWRP, read above. The normal CF Autoroot comes with CWM Recovery I believe (A custom recovery similar to TWRP). You can use the link you posted. Chagallwifi is the "nickname" of the Galaxy Tab S 10.5 WiFi, it is one way to search for a device, the other being the model number T800, for instance or the long commercial name.
This is just an app I get from the Google Play store right? Or is there a special version I need to get, or install manually? I think I saw in a YouTube video that I need to install something called GApps if I want install something from there after rooting, is this correct? Also, if Titanium Backup IS an app, how can I get a backup of the entire system when I'm booted into the OS? I think I read somewhere, or saw screenshots that show this basically creates backups of your installed programs, so you can easily restore them without having to re-download them. Maybe I'm wrong, as I said I'm completely new this and probably don't know what I'm talking about.
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You get the app from the playstore, correct. I am not sure about GApps, I want to say it isn't necessary unless you will be installing a custom rom (you can double check this on the rooting guides, if it asks for GApps, then flash the GApps)
The system back up is done via TWRP or CWM, boot into recovery and choose backup.
Titanium Backup allows you to back up the app and its data file. So you don't lose the progress of your games. Also backs up email, WiFi passwords, etc.
My biggest concern is that I'll screw something up and find myself with a tablet I can't use, without having had it no more than a couple days, and having spent nearly $600 for it and the accessories. I know that rooting/etc voids the warranty, but I also have seen where people are able to put the whole system back to factory default for repairs, etc. That sounds like something I really need to learn how to do and be confident I can do should something happen.
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Most of the errors cause soft bricks, you can recover from these. I would recommend you backup after rooting, in case you mess something up toying with Titanium, Link2SD, SuperSU, etc. You can always use SamMobile and find a Stock Rom to flash back onto the device, again via Odin. Not sure if the KnoxTrip flag will still show up, you can trying Googling how to root without tripping Knox, I know there are methods, however I have never used them. I have soft bricked my device before, I deleted everything with TWRP, I wanted to factory reset, and I selected erase System..... scary times.
Stock Rom: SamFirm (Outdated) or Updato
Thanks for all your help and advice. I just got my tablet today. Still kinda playing around with it. I probably won't do anything for a couple of days. At least till my next day off from work (Thursday) so I can concentrate on what I'm doing. I was really scared when I first turned it on, everything was in Korean. I had to find a YouTube video showing how to go through the initial setup to change the language. All good now. Once I got it fully running, it downloaded a 350mb update and rebooted. I'm now running Lolipop 5.0.2. Is that going to cause any issues? Also, I can now confirm that it is model SM-T800.
Thanks again!
ChewVodka, once your past the learning curve rooting etc. can be done in your sleep. After some research, I rooted a 10.1 tab 4 a while back with no problem. Definitely better o have more control over the device, I think. Just got a new 10.5 also, and am looking around for the best way to administer the Android system - the Galaxy Tab S for Dummies book seems to me to be actually a good place to start. I'll check back here with any choice info I find on the 10.5.
Also, I have this case for my 10.1, and this is the best under $20 case you can get for the 10.5 - so cheap I bought two of them! Type in search: Xtra-Funky Exclusive Samsung Galaxy Tab S, 10.5 -- the black and navy blue are cool -- the others kinda garish.
Easy Way, allow installation of 3rd party apps in settings download this for android https://kingroot.net/ run it select install anyway when you get the pop up, and root device , open Playstore download flashify for root users, run it allow it access , click recovery image then download twrp choose the 3.0.2-0 release and install to your tab and reboot into recovery, at this point you can use it to make a backup of your current rom or install a custom rom (following the directions on the page for the rom that you choose), this is easier method if you aren't familiar with odin and don't have the drivers and all set up on pc. You can also change kingroot over to super user in a few different ways can download and use supersume from play store and run it or, just flash the newest superuser in twrp and remove whats leftover from kingroot manually after reboot. If you intend on doing a custom rom i suggest choosing first and having all files available before you start. However if you intend on using odin You might want to install this first http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790 so you have full communication with the device in case anything does go wrong there will be other options. This is of course if you are not already setup with this already. Also I would like to note there are a few roms here based on the stock firmware if you like it just look through the forum see what you like, and read everything.
What are the benefits to a custom ROM? I assume you're talking about things like Cyanogenmod. There are some people in another forum I visit that like it, but I don't know what it is or why I would want it. Does it allow installing pirated software or something? It's probably not allowed to be discussed here, and I'm not saying I would purposely do something like that (not that I wouldn't if possible lol). It all comes down to the fact that I'm completely new to the tablet world, other than the fact that it's a bigger and better Kindle Fire that I can get more usage out of by not being limited to Amazon's ROM and store for apps. The biggest things I'm looking to do is get rid of bloatware that came preinstalled (of which a lot was added with the update) and the ability to make backups of the entire system should something screw up.
It sounds like "rooting" is essentially giving you the administrative control access to the system (like in Windows) instead of being limited to a generic "user". That allows you to install more system accessible programs, where a generic user would get a UAC prompt and then be told and Administrator needs to preform that action. As for "recovery", it sounds like that is sort of like the CMOS/BIOS of a PC. It's the first "program" that runs when you boot up (even requiring a specific keypress to enter). This allows you to access the system before the system boots, to get you backup/restore functions, and the ability to install new OS's. It also sounds like the built in version from Samsung is what is getting changed (like updating the BIOS of the PC) to allow more functionality (like backups, etc). The only thing you don't have access to is stuff like disk drives, but things like RAM and CPU can be adjusted once you have ROOT.
The more I learn about it, the more I'm eager to do it. I really don't like feeling confined to a predetermined set of available things to do, and I really don't like having somebody decide to install software I'll never use on my system that just takes up space. I especially hate that said programs can't even be uninstalled. Looks like this is what I'm gonna have to do!
Decided not to wait and rooted it tonight. I have the freedom now to play, though I'm not sure where to start. Currently I have the CF-Autoroot thing done, and it installed SuperSU. Then I did the TWRP recovery, and made a backup of all the partitions. I was kinda hoping I could backup remotely (like on the computer) rather than stored on the same device. I have a microSD card ordered and on the way, so my next task will be to back up to that. There is a tool I use on my Kindle Fire called ES File Explorer. I'll see if I can get that on this. Then I can find the backup and transfer it over the wifi.
I'll check out your other recommended apps as I have time. Thanks again!
Now I'm having a bunch of trouble. I was able to get the Chainfire root to go through, and verified it with a Root Checker. I then installed the TWRP recovery so I could make a backup. I even have a few backups. Then I went and installed an app called TWRP Manager, that was supposed to enable me the option of making backups LIVE (without having to boot into TWRP). It wasn't working, so I went to do a "Classic Backup" which reboots into TWRP and starts the backup then reboots normally. Well, TWRP never booted. I just had a black screen. Nothing seemed to work. I couldn't power on with the power button, and I couldn't manually boot into TWRP. The only option that did anything was ODIN (Download) Mode. I'm really freaking out at this point. I found a way to connect to XDA's IRC Channel and talked with some really nice guys and was told to try re-flashing the stock. I did that, and it worked. But now I'm stuck again. Basically starting from scratch with a stock system, I went through to install the Chainfire root again. It seemed to work ok, and SuperSU showed up. Ran the Root Verifier and it confirmed it was successful. I then went to flash TWRP. ODIN says it passed, but I still can't boot into it. Here's the kicker.. even if it appears that it's not working, if I do the keypresses on my tablet correctly and wait like 2-3 minutes then try again, TWRP will actually be up but the screen locked. WTF??
So did I something wrong? I'm really lost. Like I told the guys in the chatroom, I'm going on blind faith here, not really knowing what I'm doing. I figured once I have stock installed, I'm basically back to square one and can go through the whole process again. Doesn't seem to be working. I have to go to work now but hopefully somebody has something of a suggestion I can try by the time I get home.
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4way_multiwindow: This will allow you to have 4 apps open at a time and 3 apps "minimized", this also allows floating windows (Moveable apps running in "windowed mode" essentially.) There is an aesthetic bug when minimized, I have not found a fixed version of this yet, maybe others can provide link. Just load up TWRP manager and choose install, and select the .zip file and it will reboot into recovery and install the file for you. Or you can boot your device into recovery and install it the same way. I am attaching the .zip file.
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Before I try this myself and bootloop, would I be safe flashing the 4way multiwindow on the new stock 6.0.1 ROM? (SM-T805)