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Hi all,
Im looking for a cable that will let me charge my SGS2 and feed audio to the car stereo. Can I do that? And, if not, are there any line-out cables for the GS2 w/o the charging capability?
Thanks
Marcel
you can always grab the sound from the headphone jack. But it might not be ideal, because the headphone jack is on top.
Would be easier too use bluetooth instead..
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I have been interested in doing the same and the only option I found so far is Samsungs Car Dock. It provides both a charging option and audio. I am hoping more options become available within the next few months. One manufacturer to watch is Proclip. They specialize in car mounts and have quite a few with built in dock (for the IPod/iPhone anyway). Plan to email them to see if they have anything in the works.
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cbb77 said:
I have been interested in doing the same and the only option I found so far is Samsungs Car Dock. It provides both a charging option and audio. I am hoping more options become available within the next few months. One manufacturer to watch is Proclip. They specialize in car mounts and have quite a few with built in dock (for the IPod/iPhone anyway). Plan to email them to see if they have anything in the works.
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Yes but the iPhone/i**** pinout is known and provides direct line out where the SGS2 uses some ASIC to process some signal over USB into audio. Not saying Samsung won't make this spec available to Accessory Vendors but what kind of accessory vendor wants to develop their own ASIC? Too much cost involved.
The Samsung desktop dock will also work in the car but would be hard to mount. It has Line Out level for audio, but there is no real advantage to using this over the headphone out unless the quality is better. Can't know for sure I'm fresh out of Oscilloscopes...
supermult said:
Would be easier too use bluetooth instead..
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No Bluetooth in a old Volvo and I'm looking for a simple yet functional solution. Pairing BT every time and/or having BT on all the time doesn't seem good to me.
Poulsen8r said:
The Samsung desktop dock will also work in the car but would be hard to mount. It has Line Out level for audio, but there is no real advantage to using this over the headphone out unless the quality is better.
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To be honest, for me the advantage is one less cable to worry about. Another thing is that my windscreen is under such angle that straight audio jack from top of the device makes it impossible to point the phone in the direction of my face.
Any desktop / car dock owner interested in dissassembling their stuff to see how it works?
I know that with the correct resistor you can get analog line-out from the usb plug. Just not sure if the vcc line charges the phone or provides energy to a accessory then. Either way, I'm starting to think about doing it the DIY way.
monoik said:
I know that with the correct resistor you can get analog line-out from the usb plug. Just not sure if the vcc line charges the phone or provides energy to a accessory then. Either way, I'm starting to think about doing it the DIY way.
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I am interested in doing this too - If anyone can get me the details on what resister/pins etc, I would be more then happy to test it out and report back
This forum is priceless. There you go!
kiattivikrai said:
The orginal Desktop Dock use data +/- as the audio line. But you need to jump pin 4 with a 365K resitor to activate this mode.
PIN:
1 : VCC
2 : D-: AUDIO LINE OUT L/R
3 : D+: AUDIO LINE OUT R/L
4 : SENSE ( CONNECT WITH SMALL 365K TO GND )
5 : GND
Check this link for more info.
modmomun.blogspot.com/2011/07/disassembly-samsung-galaxy-s2-ii.html
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ED: I can't get it from the text, but it seems that it'll charge the phone! thunderbox666, if you try it, please send me a note! Maybe I'll do it as well. The only culprit is that this seems to put the phone in the "home dock" mode...
ED2: ok, got it:
alx37 said:
You need a micro usb connector.
Pin 1 connect to +5V
Pin 2 + 3 connect to audio l + r, Ground to Pin 5
Pin 4 connect to Pin 5 via 620k Ohm Resistor -> this triggers Car dock mode
Pin 5 connect to Ground
Go to Settings/Dock Settings/Audio-Output-mode
Pin 1 is right when the connector is in the SGS II and the screen is visible.
Voila, ALexander
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Now, just get all the parts and get going!
monoik said:
thunderbox666, if you try it, please send me a note! Maybe I'll do it as well.
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will do - hell if it works I may even write up a step by step and post it
monoik said:
Now, just get all the parts and get going!
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Already working on this bit - only thing I think I still need is the resistor
WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOO it worked.... Will post pictures shortly
Just have to tidy up my soldering
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(still not the neatest)
So everything works, although I still need to solder in the other speaker wires - But even with left and ground, it still plays in both speakers.
As soon as you plug it in, it goes to Car mode and starts charging
I did have to go into the settings and enable line out before it would play through the USB
But here are the pictures of it as it is....
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In case anyone was wondering, I also tested this with a 360k ohm resistor (couldn't source a 365k one yet) and it launched it into the home dock straight away
Stupid question. But car dock and home dock are the same huh? So the 360k does the same job as the 620k resistor. If so I'm wondering if anything between 360k and 620k all work.
Edit: So after a little searching, yeh amasing huh, they are different dock modes. Cool. I'm aiming for using poweramp, sygic gps and google maps (and probably voice talk which seemed to work using internal mic and car speakers. Guess the second mike stops the feedback loops) so guessing car dock is more suited
So now I'm guessing that the normal desktop dock mode might work better for me seeing you can change the shortcuts and have a shortcut for poweramp and sygic. I believe the car mode uses the samsung audio player and the gps is google maps?
Is the car dock mode fixed or can the shortcuts be customised? I believe car dock mode can automatically turn voice recognition on although this doesn't work well with the Australian accent.
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So now I'm guessing that the normal desktop dock mode might work better for me seeing you can change the shortcuts and have a shortcut for poweramp and sygic. I believe the car mode uses the samsung audio player and the gps is google maps?
Is the car dock mode fixed or can the shortcuts be customised? I believe car dock mode can automatically turn voice recognition on although this doesn't work well with the Australian accent.
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Yeah you cant really customise the car dock one - well at least I havent found a way yet.
I havent had any issue with it understanding my aussie accent..... yet
Hi guys,
I managed to complete my cable. You can call it a developer preview, cause I didn't have the correct resistor and just to try if it works i joined what I had to create 370k.
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I started off with the black part. I bought a Micro USB A to micro USB B cable, hoping that the fourth pin will be connected between the plugs. That is not obvious, since this pin is not used in the USB connection. Unfortunately my cable had only four wires and the shield:
So, I had to open the plug to attach the resistor. As I mentioned, I only had 5x~67k and one 30k resistor, so I connected them and it was close enough for the home dock mode to work:
The white part of the cable comes from my old aftermarket line-out cable for my previous iPhone 3G. I wanted to use it almost without cutting it, but I learned that one of the lines was disconnected, so most of it had to be replaced.
After considerable amount of soldering I plugged in the cable to my stereo and the USB port on my PC and guess what? It worked!
Here are two more shots of the crucial part of the cable. I made the chinch cables detachable just because I had such cables.
I also realized too late that I had no GND for the USB connector, so I made a very lame bridge in the shape of the letter Z. But it works!
What's left to do? Replace the resistor and figure out how to reseal the plug with it inside. Also, seal the soldered part, maybe in duct tape, I'll see.
So I finalised my cable but used a 360k resistor because I liked the desktop dock more due to changing shortcuts... Then found the google car dock apk and that works well and is customisable.
But the biggest downfall is that the voice is not routed through the usb port, only music.... So sorta gets rid of a good function that I expected to use4... hands free calling. It works well if I use the 3.5mm plug with no unwanted feedback using my car stereo and the SGS2's internal mic.
Anyone have any idea whether the audio out through the usb can't do voice calls because of a hardware or software limitation. I'm guessing its software and the limitation has not been cracked yet... Wonder why Samsung haven't allowed voice out through the usb port.
This is awesome! Though I'm having alot of trouble following your pictures, any chance you could post a diagram?
AussieHusky said:
This is awesome! Though I'm having alot of trouble following your pictures, any chance you could post a diagram?
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Sure! Right now I'm going out, but in the evening (4-5 hours from now) I'll scribble something down.
AussieHusky said:
This is awesome! Though I'm having alot of trouble following your pictures, any chance you could post a diagram?
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Edit: DO NOT USE MY PREVIOUSLY ATTACHED PIN OUT. I DREW IT WITH PIN 1 WHERE PIN 5 IS. I WISH I COULD SHOUT LOUDER..
To be updated.
AussieHusky said:
This is awesome! Though I'm having alot of trouble following your pictures, any chance you could post a diagram?
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Here is my rough drawing. Someone else might spend more time or convey it easier than I have. The solder pads on my plug were as shown. If you have 3 pads on top and 2 underneath then they will be the same as my drawing.
Note that any micro usb to usb cable will probably only have 4 pins wired up as usb only has 4 pins. This is why you need to strip the micro usb plug cover off to get to the extra pins solder pad.
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE PIN 1 AS THE +5V FROM YOUR CHARGER AND NOT CONNECTED TO ANOTHER PIN. THIS IS PROBABLY THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN STUFF YOUR DEVICE.
I have tried to find the link that shows what pad is connected to what pin but can't locate it easily. I did however make sure that pin 1 was the only one with power before plugging it in. All other pins being wrong will just mean it won't work. Here is a link for the pin out fro micro usb http://www.accesscomms.com.au/reference/usb.htm
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10827&cs_id=1082704&p_id=7364&seq=1&format=2
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http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10827&cs_id=1082704&p_id=7364&seq=1&format=2
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Thanks for the link. Have you tried it? Personally I'd prefer the wired route but because of the lack of voice calls I may look at this product. Its an option for cars without Bluetooth but have a wired input. Also good for in home use without a physical wire. Although the connection for power will still be needed.
The signal to noise is quite high so the extra hiss shouldn't be too noticeable. But the 70Hz low end frequency limitation is not very good and I'm concerned that on a decent sound system the lows might not be that great. Can you comment?
Dear awesome community,
For the past month or more I've been trying to find a place where they sell Mirco-USB to 3.5mm/USB cables, but I have come to no success whatsoever!
Is such cable impossible to make? Or am I just looking in the wrong places.
Check out the attached picture that I've created to show what I need and mean.
It looks simple, right? Now, I would love to get one of these at any price.
Help me!
Dear awesome user.
The practical application of this would be ?
blobotorian said:
Dear awesome user.
The practical application of this would be ?
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Well, instead of having two wires coming out of my Note (Top and bottom) while I'm driving, a cable like this well have only one wire coming out from under the phone, cutting on clutter and annoying wires.
must be out there
heres something similar but is mini usb which is no good.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-1-MINI-USB-3-5MM-JACK-MINI-USB-HTC-ADAPTER-/260655181793
indie said:
must be out there
heres something similar but is mini usb which is no good.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-1-MINI-USB-3-5MM-JACK-MINI-USB-HTC-ADAPTER-/260655181793
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Shouldn't a micro-usb to mini-usb converter work? IF it supports audio over usb that is
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hobs0n said:
Shouldn't a micro-usb to mini-usb converter work? IF it supports audio over usb that is
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That's totally proprietary. The phone that that is made for probably doesn't even have a 3.5mm jack.
biggy83 said:
Well, instead of having two wires coming out of my Note (Top and bottom) while I'm driving, a cable like this well have only one wire coming out from under the phone, cutting on clutter and annoying wires.
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Well.. sorry to be a troll. However, you started this thread conveniently assuming that Headphone output through MicroUSB port of Note will work? Its not an HTC phone which has headset support.
May I know the reason for your ASSUMPTION that it would work even if you get the cable?
Your best bet for a single plug into your phone would probably be to use an MHL>HDMI adapter, and then get another adapter to convert from HDMI audio to 3.5mm.
That would be rather clunky though. HDMI > Anything (that isn't DVI) converters are going to run you at least about $40 for a start, and they aren't small either (probably not much smaller than the phone itself .) And they are externally-powered, so you'd need to provide power to both the MHL dongle and the HDMI converter, so it'd be super untidy.
You could do it though.
But you're probably better off using Bluetooth.
Prankey said:
Well.. sorry to be a troll. However, you started this thread conveniently assuming that Headphone output through MicroUSB port of Note will work? Its not an HTC phone which has headset support.
May I know the reason for your ASSUMPTION that it would work even if you get the cable?
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My assumption comes from the fact that there is a "docking" option in the system settings of the Galaxy Note, meaning that there is support for docking stations and probably audio output for them.
I'm not saying that the Note is the only and first phone to have it, I'm just wondering if there are such cables out there and if such thing possible to be made through Micro USB.
I had an iPhone almost 2 years ago and such cable was available easily and it did really help in my car setup, and since the Note has the same slot setup of my old iPhone I would really like to know if a cable like that is somewhere out there.
Prankey said:
Well.. sorry to be a troll. However, you started this thread conveniently assuming that Headphone output through MicroUSB port of Note will work? Its not an HTC phone which has headset support.
May I know the reason for your ASSUMPTION that it would work even if you get the cable?
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Well, looking at this car docking station...
(Link not allowed. Search for "Genuine Samsung Galaxy Note Vehicle Dock - ECS-K1E1BEGSTD" on MobileFun)
...it clearly shows a "speaker line out" socket in one of the photos, with only one connector (i.e. the micro USB connector) attaching to the phone.
So it is most certainly possible.
Hmmm, the both the official desktop dock and car dock have a 3.5mm audio out. It seems unlikely that there would be a USB DAC in the docks themselves, which suggests that analogue audio is being piped out the microUSB port on the phone itself.
Of course, the OP could just buy the official car dock to get nice tidy cabling...
If i understood the purpose of this cable, it would be:
For example:
My car supports audio input so the purpose of a cable like this would be to stream music to my car audio system and recharge de phone like a all-in-one right?
gordonshowers said:
Well, looking at this car docking station...
(Link not allowed. Search for "Genuine Samsung Galaxy Note Vehicle Dock - ECS-K1E1BEGSTD" on MobileFun)
...it clearly shows a "speaker line out" socket in one of the photos, with only one connector (i.e. the micro USB connector) attaching to the phone.
So it is most certainly possible.
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Exactly! I found out about this dock yesterday and I'm still wondering why isn't anything like of what I suggested earlier available? How come now one asked about this before!
zylor said:
If i understood the purpose of this cable, it would be:
For example:
My car supports audio input so the purpose of a cable like this would be to stream music to my car audio system and recharge de phone like a all-in-one right?
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That is exactly what I want!
Very Interested in this as well. OEM dock wont work with a case. So this would be a great alternative paired with a car cradle such as this.
biggy83 said:
Dear awesome community,
For the past month or more I've been trying to find a place where they sell Mirco-USB to 3.5mm/USB cables, but I have come to no success whatsoever!
Is such cable impossible to make? Or am I just looking in the wrong places.
Check out the attached picture that I've created to show what I need and mean.
It looks simple, right? Now, I would love to get one of these at any price.
Help me!
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This:
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This:
$7 + Shipping
I too really want one of these.
It is obviously possible as the destop & car dock do this.
The only way is, for someone with some electronics knowledge to pull one of these apart to see how its done. It would be interesting to see if it is straight audio out, or if there is a "Digital to Analogue Converter in there"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-ET-...&otn=3&po=LVI&ps=63&clkid=5051243939125627988
This might do the trick in the unlikely case that Note's microusb outputs audio. Tough I'm really interested in knowing for sure if the Galaxy Note microusb pumps line level audio.
Judging by the price of the desktop dock i wouldn't bet my money on the idea that it has not a dac. I
Use Bluetooth.
maybe at usbfever.com or dealextreme.com
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http://www.cablejive.com/ maybe
Hi,
Has anyone seen this?
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=16992427&postcount=2
It seems pretty easy and do-able. I don't own a Galaxy Nexus but I plan to get one soon. My biggest issue with the phone is the utter lack of car docks available (especially in Canada)... So this is my backup and I'll probably end up making one of these.
Now my question: I'm not particularly experienced with wiring and stuff, but I'm capable of doing the work. Would anyone have any ideas to incorporate the pogo pins neatly into something like this?
I haven't seen any tutorials so far, but I read you'd need some kind of microcontroller?
Thanks.
Either way, this is a pretty smart solution for a car mount.
Why not just buy a Universal Car Mount For a cell phone?
Ebay is full of them.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-C...054495?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item5ae18b399f
Because they're big and atrocious looking. To me this is a more elegant solution that 's easy enough to do. I was just sharing it, and wondering about the possibilities of wiring for the pogo pins.
This post may help
Also this tells you which is + and which is ground, also provides some ideas for implementation.
This thread documents the ongoing development of a pogo pin dock.
Why not just buy a NFC sticker which you put on the dock, then it can trigger what actions you want when you dock it. Unless you are trying to skip plugging in a power cord.
Geoff
gzub said:
... Unless you are trying to skip plugging in a power cord.
Geoff
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And:
enable the offical car/desk dock mode built into the phone.
enable AC charging without using a custom kernel
not need any software installed to make it work "right"
Personally, once the micro-controller is figured out, I'm going to mode my otterbox commuter and SlipGrip car mount into a powered dock.
I'm wondering if anyone has tried using the smart dock with the Note 8.0
Note II is really similar, so I would hope that the Note 8.0 will work
The Samsung site says Note II and Galaxy IV so now I'm a little iffy.
The MHL and OTG adapters are pretty universal, but I can only use one at a time
2 usb ports plus the HDMI would be great for me at the office since I can plug in the tab and have it running on my 2nd monitor (along with KB and mouse)
Has anyone tried yet?
kisaten said:
I'm wondering if anyone has tried using the smart dock with the Note 8.0
Note II is really similar, so I would hope that the Note 8.0 will work
The Samsung site says Note II and Galaxy IV so now I'm a little iffy.
The MHL and OTG adapters are pretty universal, but I can only use one at a time
2 usb ports plus the HDMI would be great for me at the office since I can plug in the tab and have it running on my 2nd monitor (along with KB and mouse)
Has anyone tried yet?
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It works great. I tried it with mine, and I have seen reports of other users using theirs.
robyr said:
It works great. I tried it with mine, and I have seen reports of other users using theirs.
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Are you able to put the Note 8.0 into landscape when using the Smart Dock? Also, is the device stable enough to be written upon with S-pen while docked?
BTW, is there any other way to get USB- OTG and HDMI functionality simultaneously? (sans the Smart Dock)
I have the Smart Dock for my Note II and it works well. I haven't received my Int'l 3G Note 8.0 yet to test it, but it's good to hear that others have it working.
Since the Smart Dock holds both devices in Portrait orientation, it will not automatically put the display in Landscape mode unless you are playing a video. You would have to use a 3rd party app such as "Orientation Control".
I doubt you could write on the Note 8.0's screen successfully while in the dock. The dock is roughly 3" square and is not heavy enough to stabilize the tab for anything but very light screen taps or swipes. The device is not secured in the dock other than the by microUSB connector. The device just rests in the dock under its own weight, vertically.
The Smart Dock is not made to hold the device physically in a Landscape orientation. I'm not sure if a microUSB-to-microUSB extension cable would work to retain the functions and allow a separate landscape "holder" or case/cover to be used without the actual Smart Dock attached? Hmmm...
Oh, AFAIK, and I've researched fairly thoroughly, I couldn't find any other way to achieve HDMI, Audio, and USB OTG simultaneously. You might be able to use the Allcast Media Hub for wireless HDMI & Audio, and then connect a USB OTG adapter to the Note 8.0's microUSB/MHL port, but I haven't tested that.
Hope this helps.
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I have the Smart Dock for my Note II and it works well. I haven't received my Int'l 3G Note 8.0 yet to test it, but it's good to hear that others have it working.
Since the Smart Dock holds both devices in Portrait orientation, it will not automatically put the display in Landscape mode unless you are playing a video. You would have to use a 3rd party app such as "Orientation Control".
I doubt you could write on the Note 8.0's screen successfully while in the dock. The dock is roughly 3" square and is not heavy enough to stabilize the tab for anything but very light screen taps or swipes. The device is not secured in the dock other than the by microUSB connector. The device just rests in the dock under its own weight, vertically.
The Smart Dock is not made to hold the device physically in a Landscape orientation. I'm not sure if a microUSB-to-microUSB extension cable would work to retain the functions and allow a separate landscape "holder" or case/cover to be used without the actual Smart Dock attached? Hmmm...
Oh, AFAIK, and I've researched fairly thoroughly, I couldn't find any other way to achieve HDMI, Audio, and USB OTG simultaneously. You might be able to use the Allcast Media Hub for wireless HDMI & Audio, and then connect a USB OTG adapter to the Note 8.0's microUSB/MHL port, but I haven't tested that.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks, it was very helpful. I was thinking of getting the Smart Dock in lieu of the HDMI adapter. USB-OTG + HDMI at same time isn't much of a necessity for me. HDMI is still primary for me. Audio, when required could be used from the 3.5 mm jack.
Guess, it would be better to go for the HDMI adapter.
BTW, do you have any experience on HDMI to VGA converters?Do they work well? Actually I need to hook up the Note 8.0 to a VGA projector?
^No worries.
I don't have a ton of experience with HDMI-to-VGA adapters, but I would trust the people at the following link to steer you in the right direction...
http://www.comprehensivecable.com/
Click on the "Adapters" tab, have a look, then shoot them an email. They're very helpful and knowledgeable.
You might also try http://www.monoprice.com
VGA doesn't carry Audio signals, so you would most likely need a unit that would extract the audio from the HDMI as well as the Video signal, and then route the Audio to a separate connector/cable. I have seen some VGA cables that also have a 3.5mm Stereo audio plug at each end, so you can hook up the audio output from your PC's sound card and plug it into the 3.5mm audio Jack on most video projectors. You can find these at http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=180-285
Good luck.
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^No worries.
I don't have a ton of experience with HDMI-to-VGA adapters, but I would trust the people at the following link to steer you in the right direction...
http://www.comprehensivecable.com/
Click on the "Adapters" tab, have a look, then shoot them an email. They're very helpful and knowledgeable.
You might also try http://www.monoprice.com
VGA doesn't carry Audio signals, so you would most likely need a unit that would extract the audio from the HDMI as well as the Video signal, and then route the Audio to a separate connector/cable. I have seen some VGA cables that also have a 3.5mm Stereo audio plug at each end, so you can hook up the audio output from your PC's sound card and plug it into the 3.5mm audio Jack on most video projectors. You can find these at http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=180-285
Good luck.
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Yes, I have seen some which can extract audio from the HDMI feed.
There are a number of listings on eBay in my country. I would love to get it from a reliable website, but most of them are overseas and the customs department in India makes it a lot of hassle.
I ordered a display adapter from dx.com once. No problems with website or the product, but it was held up for a month at the customs office and finally I had to pay a 50% duty as well.
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I picked up a smart dock today and I am playing with it right now.
Some issues, having to repower up the dock for usb to work after tablet is inserted.
And I am not having any sound come out of the 3.5 jack on the back of the dock.
Also it I am using a HDMI to DVI adaptor for my moniter and I am using an orentation control app with it.
Wish it worked with my Galaxy s3.
Ravanous said:
I picked up a smart dock today and I am playing with it right now.
Some issues, having to repower up the dock for usb to work after tablet is inserted.
And I am not having any sound come out of the 3.5 jack on the back of the dock.
Also it I am using a HDMI to DVI adaptor for my moniter and I am using an orentation control app with it.
Wish it worked with my Galaxy s3.
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Is your Note 8.0 battery level above 80% when you put it in the dock? If not, the tablet will draw too much power from the power adapter just to CHARGE the tablet, and the USB ports do not have sufficient power. If your tablet or phone battery is over 80%, this isn't a problem and you shouldn't have to "re-Dock" it to get the USB ports to work. Samsung should have made the power adapter more powerful (3 or 4 amps).
To get audio output from the 3.5mm rear Jack, you need to go into SETTINGS > ACCESSORY > AUDIO OUTPUT MODE, and Check the box for "Use External Speakers when device is Docked".
Ravanous said:
I picked up a smart dock today and I am playing with it right now.
Some issues, having to repower up the dock for usb to work after tablet is inserted.
And I am not having any sound come out of the 3.5 jack on the back of the dock.
Also it I am using a HDMI to DVI adaptor for my moniter and I am using an orentation control app with it.
Wish it worked with my Galaxy s3.
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Just to be clear, are you able to Use the S-Pen when docked, any way to keep the tablet physically in a landscape position?
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agambhandari said:
Just to be clear, are you able to Use the S-Pen when docked, any way to keep the tablet physically in a landscape position?
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I thought I had answered your Portrait/Landscape question in paragraphs 3 & 4 of Post #4? Read through it again. The smart dock does not hold the tablet in a Landscape (horizontal) orientation at all. You could possibly use a case or cover on the Note 8.0 that would hold it in landscape, or use Samsung's Note 8.0 Car Mount and then connect the tablet to the Smart Dock with a 11-pin Male-to-Female micro-USB extension cable.
Hope this helps.
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I thought I had answered your Portrait/Landscape question in paragraphs 3 & 4 of Post #4? Read through it again. The smart dock does not hold the tablet in a Landscape (horizontal) orientation at all. You could possibly use a case or cover on the Note 8.0 that would hold it in landscape, or use Samsung's Note 8.0 Car Mount and then connect the tablet to the Smart Dock with a 11-pin Male-to-Female micro-USB extension cable.
Hope this helps.
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Yes, I had already read your post.
But the other member claimed to have already used it with the Note8, whereas you told me that you were still expecting your note 8, so I was keen to know more about the actual experience of a user.
BTW, Do you know if 11 pin USB extension cables are available?
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Take a look at a picture of the smart dock, or look at nztechfreak's YouTube review of it. Just from its physical size and design there is no way that the Smart Dock can support or hold a tablet in a Landscape or horizontal position when on a desk/flat surface...or any surface.
For reference, I just tried my Note II in the Smart Dock with the phone and dock laying on its side. The dock will hold the Note II in landscape position, but the phone is at a perfect 90° angle to the table's surface, which makes it hard to use the touchscreen, and it will easily become undocked, as there is no pressure or weight to secure the device. And there is nothing directly behind the phone to keep it from moving or sliding back when you press the screen. Also, at least one USB port will be inaccessible because it or they will be against the table's surface when the dock is laying on its side. This dock was simply made to only hold a PHONE (either the Note II, SGS3, or SGS4) in a vertical Portrait position. It's obvious from the design that it was not made for landscape use whatsoever. It just happens to hold the Note II on its side because the dock is the same width as the phone.
I don't believe that Samsung will ever make a LANDSCAPE Desk dock for the Note 8.0. It is clear from its general design that Samsung intended this tablet to be used as a "Notepad" in a Portrait (vertical) orientation. The only odd exception is the position of the IR Blaster on the side (the SGS4 IR Blaster is on the top). I would definitely like a landscape desk dock as well, but I'm not convinced that it would be practical for this particular tablet. However, there is a car/windshield mount listed on Samsung's web site that looks like it will hold the tablet in landscape mode.
I'm searching for the extension cables now and will post here if & when I find them.
Thanks.
I never tried the S-Pen while in the dock. Also I tried the settings mentioned above to get the 3.5 sound to work, but no luck.
I took it back, I'll wait for a proper one to come out, or try with the wifi all share hub and build somthing that way.
Got one of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/23108138465...769&_trkparms=ga1m=T1&ga2m=T0&ga3m=T1&ga4m=T2
If I hook up USB+charger and THEN the HDMI, it works. For some reason (lack of power???) it won't accept a flash drive if I plug a hub in and the flash drive into that. (I use a Bluetooth keyboard and a USB mouse.)
Haven't bit the bullet on the official smart dock yet though :'(.
Back in the days when I was more adventurous with my Infuse 4g, I put together a little project board that allows me to specify resistances between pins 4 and 5 of a Micro-B USB cable. This allowed me to force my phone into Car Dock mode, or act as a USB JIG (for Triangle-Away purposes), or even connect to the phone using UART. I have a TTL 3.3v level conversion on the other end (a nice little FTDI breakout board that provides a USB serial port), and that makes it simple to capture the output of UART while the phone boots. I’ve used this board on my Infuse, my Galaxy S2, and now my new Galaxy S4.
To get it to work this time, I had to connect the RxD, TxD, VCC and GND wires up like usual to the FTDI breakout board, but I had to attach the 619k resistance at a specific timing. Here’s the order:
Unplug battery
Attach MicroB cable to phone
Attach the 4 wires above (easy for me, with dip switches for each)
Attach battery
Start Putty
Attach 619k resistance between 4th/5th pins.
Watch the magic
Attached is the UART output from this. Many thanks to AdamOutler and his help with the previous generations of Samsung devices. Hope this somehow helps in the efforts to obtain root. Let me know if there's anything special you'd like me to try.
Just tried my jig on the S4, and it works to put the phone in download mode.
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I've been trying various resistances, and I can't seem to get to an SBL prompt. I'm wondering if this is because the bootloader is locked? If anyone has different results, please let us know how you did it. (thanks)
Any way I could get someone with some wiring experience to check out what we've got going on with the Samsung Infuse car dock on this thread? Trying to figure out why the Infuse car dock worked on the Skyrocket and SIII for me personally, but not the S4 - won't put it in car dock mode and won't charge the device.... if someone knew where the wires were supposed to be run, I have a spare base with a plug on it that's not attached to the mount that I can hack up, provided this isn't something too intense for me to get involved in! I can do a good bit of customizing when it comes to cars and car electronics, but I don't have all the cool tools it sounds like some of you have!
Thanks in advance for any insight you can bring to this discussion!
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Any way I could get someone with some wiring experience to check out what we've got going on with the Samsung Infuse car dock on this thread? Trying to figure out why the Infuse car dock worked on the Skyrocket and SIII for me personally, but not the S4 - won't put it in car dock mode and won't charge the device.... if someone knew where the wires were supposed to be run, I have a spare base with a plug on it that's not attached to the mount that I can hack up, provided this isn't something too intense for me to get involved in! I can do a good bit of customizing when it comes to cars and car electronics, but I don't have all the cool tools it sounds like some of you have!
Thanks in advance for any insight you can bring to this discussion!
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I set my jig-board to 619k exactly and provided it with vcc5v and a ground, and it does not charge and does not give car dock mode at all. For older Samsung devices, I always referenced:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275
However, it seems the hardware might have changed? The older handsets have the fsa9480 ... perhaps one of our hardware-oriented devs could tell us what the S4 has inside? Might point us in the right direction to get the same list of modes/resistances ...
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I set my jig-board to 619k exactly and provided it with vcc5v and a ground, and it does not charge and does not give car dock mode at all. For older Samsung devices, I always referenced:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275
However, it seems the hardware might have changed? The older handsets have the fsa9480 ... perhaps one of our hardware-oriented devs could tell us what the S4 has inside? Might point us in the right direction to get the same list of modes/resistances ...
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Well damn, I'm not the only one scratching their heads at this then, that's kind of good news! Thank you for testing, and you're right, I think once we have a little more answers, we'll be on to something here for sure!
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Aou said:
I set my jig-board to 619k exactly and provided it with vcc5v and a ground, and it does not charge and does not give car dock mode at all. For older Samsung devices, I always referenced:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275
However, it seems the hardware might have changed? The older handsets have the fsa9480 ... perhaps one of our hardware-oriented devs could tell us what the S4 has inside? Might point us in the right direction to get the same list of modes/resistances ...
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http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S4+Teardown/13947/1
Starting at step 14 they get into a detailed look at the hardware on board. Maybe this can help answer some questions for you.
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highaltitude said:
Just tried my jig on the S4, and it works to put the phone in download mode.
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I, too still have jig from GS2 day. it works with GS4 :laugh:
Here's what one of the guys from iBolt has to say about the dock, collected from two threads regarding the Infuse dock:
MikaelPe said:
The Infuse Dock can't be used with the Galaxy S4 no matter what. This has to do with the fact that Samsung has changed the pin-out configuration when moving to the "new platform" so there's no technical way (to the best of our knowledge) to get it to charge or to start the car-mode. Not sure if this helps?
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MikaelPe said:
Kryptos, as you probably saw in my reply on the other thread I unfortunately think the Infuse Dock is dead. Samsung have changed both the firmware and the pin-out so it neither charges nor is the traditional car-mode present anymore. As Samsung is not building their own OEM car dock it was probably not on the "checklist" so they simply skipped integrating the functionality. We've obviously figured out a solution and we are hard at work bringing a bunch of developers with us so they make their apps compatible with our Dock. We all can benefit from not only "DockMode" (as we simply call it henceforth) and the nice "aux-out" through microUSB, that is in my opinion a much bigger deal then anything they presented as "new feature" when introducing the S4. Hope this answers helps?
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So I ended up ordered the iBolt xProDock from Amazon, don't worry about replying to the PM I send you Aou since we really don't have any testing to do on the iBolt or modifying to do on the Infuse dock - it is dead and I don't think I'm prepared to even try and revive it!
Sorry to "necro" but I need more info on this. If you connect the 619K resistor before power-on won't it work? What are the settings for baudrate, error checking etc.??