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Anyone have a Sony Smartwatch 2?

I currently have a Pebble and was wondering if the SW2 is worth the extra $40. Any compatibility issues with the Moto X?

clankfu said:
I currently have a Pebble and was wondering if the SW2 is worth the extra $40. Any compatibility issues with the Moto X?
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The Sony SW2 works fine with the Moto X. I thought it was well worth the extra money compared to the Pebble. To me the Pebble looks like a toy compared the the SW2.

mward7221 said:
The Sony SW2 works fine with the Moto X. I thought it was well worth the extra money compared to the Pebble. To me the Pebble looks like a toy compared the the SW2.
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That's true and it's the main reason why I was thinking about getting one. But what's holding me back is the fact that the Pebble currently has slightly more functionality.
For example, on the SW2, you can't mark a notification as viewed on the phone, when checked on the watch. With the Notification Center app on the Pebble, you have the option to dismiss or keep phone notifications with your watch.

No issue with SW2 here

I have both. My SW2 is collection dust now that I bought a wide band replacement strap for my pebble.
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Have Pebble, Gear and now I use SW2 - works fine with Moto X.
Sony Smartwatch combines necessary factors to me
Pebble-like:
time is always visible
compatible with all Android devices
water resistance
Gear-like:
Touchscreen

Samsung Galaxy Gear vs Sony Smartwatch 2 - Detailed Comparison

Seems like Sony has decided to go a step backwards in designing their smart watches... The SW2 was fantastic and very useful because it handled like a small phone, being able to have your apps displayed across home screens and having the ability to download many other apps. Android Wear just doesn't appeal to me... It's way too simplified and dumbed down of an experience for my liking.

so your contribution to the sw3 forum is "I don't want a sw3" lol

Even better, I don't want a ducati, I want a car, the use of only two wheels is a big step backward in the world of driving.
None of this is relevant feedback. If you want an android wear watch that is perfectly readable in daylight and can keep on all day without worrying about battery life, this is the one. The main cons in my book are the lack of interchangeable straps, the lack of wireless /easy charging, and the lack of a heart rate monitor. That said, as of today, I think it's the best aw option because of the usefulness of the screen.
Fwiw I have an original gwatch, moto 360, and briefly a gear live.

Khidr said:
The main cons in my book are the lack of interchangeable straps, the lack of wireless /easy charging, and the lack of a heart rate monitor. That said, as of today, I think it's the best aw option because of the usefulness of the screen.
Fwiw I have an original gwatch, moto 360, and briefly a gear live.
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This watch does have interchangeable straps. I also wish it had wireless charging, but I'm okay with it due to the IP68 rating. Also, the fact that it's micro USB and not a proprietary charging cable/crable is a plus in my opinion. Concerning heart rate monitor's, it's lack is apparent but at the same time, HRM's are not very accurate in wrists compared to chest or arm bands. I won't miss it.

Sony Smartwatch vs Moto 360 video unboxing

Hi all,
Here is a video of me unboxing the Moto 360 and the Sony Smartwatch 3 which I received on the same day. http://youtu.be/0zLxA8hDQjA
I brought the two of them expecting there to be a clear winner for me (and sell the other). There was not and there still isn't. I prefer the backlit LCD screen of the 360, better blacks and viewing angles ect. But the Sony looks alot less conspicuous on my wrist. As I have dainty wrist this is a big issue for me. I love the wireless charger of the Moto and seeing as I have 4 other QI chargers at home, work and in the car I am not worried about running out of juice. I also like the Micro USB charging of the Sony as they can be found anywhere in the world, but it is a bit more fiddly to charge instead of just 'plonking' the watch down to charge.
The Sony has GPS and NFC built in as well as WIFI according to the white paper from Sony, although there is no use for it yet but I am sure there will be in the future. Although the Sony does not have a heart rate monitor. But my Samsung S5 does.
Long story short, I am keeping both. I will use the Sony for general day to day work but wear the Moto if going out. I will be changing the strap of the Moto as I hate the type of strap that comes with it. I will be fitting a stainless steel strap which will hopefully add a bit of weight as I found that both watches are allot lighter than I was expecting and prefer.
Any questions please feel free to ask.

Would you buy one today?

Hey everyone,
So I like to bike maybe once a week and have typically used Map My Ride or Strava to, well, map my rides. But I'm on Project Fi now so am becoming a miser with my data. I was thinking of getting a SW3 and using GhostRacer and the built in GPS to handle that but wanted to see if it is still worth it. I know the 360 Sport is around but the reviews haven't been stellar. Assuming the price is in the $100-$125 range is it still worth it?
I do also go to the gym a couple of days a week so keeping music on the watch and using headphones is a plus as well.
Thanks,

I owned both SW3 and Moto 360 Sport, however I just sold the 360 Sport yesterday because the battery drained on it a lot faster than on the SW3. I prefered the look of the Moto 360 Sport over the SW3 even though I own the SS, Universal strap and silicone strap for the SW3. Both are also water resistant.
Here is a breakdown of pro and cons.
The display of both watches are similar other than round vs square, however the Moto display is a bit nicer with more vibrant colors and while in ambient mode it's in color vs b&w.
Moto 360 Sport also has a built in optical HR monitor SW3 does not.
SW3 has replaceable watch band, infinite combination, Moto 360 Sport comes in White, Black, and Orange and you can not replace the bands.
Again, battery life is night and day better on the SW3 additionally you can charge is with any Micro USB cable vs a proprietary wireless charger. Additionally SW3 charges really fast, almost 2X faster than Moto 360 Sport.
SW3 has built in NFC, you can't do much with it now but future updates may give you more options.
I haven't used either watch with the headphones, so I can't comment on that aspect of the watch.
So I would say go with SW3 and save some money, you'll have no regrets.

Had the SW3 for about 6 months now and I love it. I use it for tracking runs, playing music paired with BT headphones and for keeping track of my appointments. It's great for the price, but I suggest holding out a while longer until announcements for support (or lack thereof) for Android Wear 2.0 come out. Motorola has confirmed it won't be getting the software update for the 1st gen Moto360, so there's a good chance the SW3 won't either..so you might be better off getting one of the newer models. I'm thinking the price might still go down if it won't support AW 2.0, but if it does, at the current price it's a steal.

pawces said:
Motorola has confirmed it won't be getting the software update for the 1st gen Moto360, so there's a good chance the SW3 won't either..so you might be better off getting one of the newer models.
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Because first gen has bad processor and bad battery.
SW3 has same processor than Moto 2nd gen and other actual wear watch.

dersie said:
Because first gen has bad processor and bad battery.
SW3 has same processor than Moto 2nd gen and other actual wear watch.
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I won't get my hopes up. It may have the hardware requirements , but seeing as the SW3 was the last of the 1st gen devices to get the recent android update, Sony may not be too keen on putting any more effort into the device. Still a great device for the price it's going for now though, and a good entry point into Android Wear for minimal $. Just bear in mind that when purchasing any piece of tech, it's bound to become obsolete in a year or so, simply because that's how fast technology is evolving. Hardly anything is future-proof these days.

I have this watch for a couple of months now and yes I absolutely love it. Might even buy a second one, for no other reason than having a spare, just in case. I'm sad that smart watches aren't really popular - I'd love to have a SW3 with better hardware and a heart rate sensor - but this watch is great. I use it for stuff like skating and thanks to the great location tracking, I can safely leave my phone at home, and when I'm back it will sync my whole route. This took a looong time the last time I did it, but ok, I rode for 30km so that's probably a lot of data to sync. Now I can see my entire route back on Google Fit. I really love that.
As a sysadmin I also use my watch for easy notifications, and for dispatching tasks to Tasker, using WearTasker. It's great that I don't need to take my phone each time I get a notification. This also applies to when I'm driving - using my phone when I'm on the road is something I absolutely never do, and now, when I get a message, I get it on my watch, so at least I can see if it's something urgent.
The voice capabilities work well enough to also make this a lovable feature.
The rubber wrist band fits nicely. I also bought a, what's the name, the plastic thing in which you can fit a band of your own choice. But I like the rubber band a lot more.
The display works great with a screen protector and the light sensor also works good.
All in all.. what's there not to love about this watch?

Have had mine for about seven months now. Overall I'm very happy with the watch and will probably (hopefully) keep it for a long time.
I'm most impressed by the battery life, which is great, and the durability of the display. I'm very neurotic about my phone's screen, always using tempered glass protectors, but I've worn the SW3 without any kind of screen condom pretty much all the time for over half a year, and the display still looks like brand spanking new. Thing is tough, is what I'm saying.

I just went through all of this myself when my original SW3 broke. I went through all of the available smartwatches and started narrowing them down. I like running but hate taking my phone because of its size (6p). I found an awesome Amazon Warehouse deal on a 360 Sport. The band is a deal breaker. Plain and simple. Its awful. Everything sticks to it and it was uncomfortable for me. This wouldn't be an issue normally, but you cannot replace the band...ever. Also, potential issue with the 360 Sport is IP67 water resistance vs IP68 on the Sony SW3.
I also tried the Samsung Gear S due to its IP68 rating and heart rate. While the fit and finish is above and beyond what the SW3 has to offer, I missed the always-on TFT screen, Wear, Google Now (voice commands work amazingly well), and my customized Watchmaker Premium face (with Tasker integration .
I would still choose the SW3 today due to these things: battery life (2 days not uncommon), TFT display (always on without killing battery-visible in direct sunlight), ambient light sensor (I'm looking at you Huawei and Asus), microUSB charging (yes, it's kinda a pain, but you can charge anywhere-getting a right-angle USB cable helps make it less annoying to plug in), and interchangeable bands (I have 2 bands now. They are comfortable for me and quick clasp). Lack of heart rate does not bother me b/c I don't think any wrist-based HR is accurate enough to matter.
Note: I use my SW3 with headphones all the time. Works great. Syncing music is cake with Play Music, though, since it has USB, I would prefer if it supported MTP and you could just drag and drop whatever straight to the device. Definitely not a problem, just annoying to have to wait for all your offline music to sync over BT.

My main issue with my SW3 is the very very.... poor readability indoor in dim mode. With low light it is very difficult to read. And with only black & white dim mode most of the wear face are very bad. Even the pebble time LCD screen color is much better
Good outdoor 1% of the time but bad indoor 99% of the time.

dersie said:
My main issue with my SW3 is the very very.... poor readability indoor in dim mode. With low light it is very difficult to read. And with only black & white dim mode most of the wear face are very bad. Even the pebble time LCD screen color is much better
Good outdoor 1% of the time but bad indoor 99% of the time.
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I will say that the LCD in the SW3 is not the best for viewing angles and resolution. However, readability is never an issue for me. The main reason is the ambient light sensor. I tried a Zenwatch 2 (which is a nice watch for the money), but the lack of the ambient light sensor meant the screen was always too dim or too bright. I don't want to fiddle with brightness every time I go outside or back inside. Yes, the always on TFT mode is going not the greatest for inside, but that's not its point. Still, sitting here at my desk under weak, florescent light, I can read it perfectly at a glance. That is another selling point for this watch. It is fairly useful as a watch...lol.

I am bit disappointed with my SW3, or more with Android Wear actually.
Besides notifications I have not been able to find much use for it. I had Pebble for two years and loved the way it handled notifications, with a certain third party app though. IMO Android Wear is quite clumsy and I miss more customisation options especially with the way notifications are handled. My battery lasts about a day and a night. For a smartwatch I guess that is not bad but I do miss Pebble's several days of juice.
So I am not sure if I would buy one now that I have used SW3 for few months...
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Which Smart Watch?
I own the Sony S3 Smartwatch, the Samsung Gear S2 and two Moto 360 2nd generation watches. Yes, I have four smart watches for no reason other than I love gadgets. I also owned the Huawei smart watch for about a week before I exchanged it for a Moto 360. The Huawei is great but I have huge wrists. So the Moto looks best on my wrist. Anyway, I use each watch for different activities. Each watch has it's pros and cons and correlates directly to which activities they are best for. For instance, the Sony Smartwatch has the best waterproof rating. So I wear the Sony to the beach and for playing beach volleyball (any activity with the possibility of submersion). The Sony is also one of the only watches with on-board GPS. That's great when you want to track your movement without lugging the phone around with you. The Samsung Gear S2 is probably the most versatile and it's sort of a hybrid between a sports watch and a casual dinner watch (depends on which band you install). The Samsung works great in every aspect and is probably the best overall performer but you cannot wear it as a luxury piece. It just does not have the look of a luxury piece. That's where the Moto 360 2nd Gen comes into play. The Moto performs great but you don't want to wear it playing beach volleyball. The Moto is designed to look like a luxury time piece and it looks the part. Of course the stock straps with the Moto are absolute garbage. You will want to order good thick leather straps online (or nice stainless steel). Once you have installed the new 3rd party strap your Moto will look very much like a fine time piece similar to a Breitling, Tagheur, Omega, etc.... Then you just need to use the Watchmaker premium app to download hundreds of custom watch faces that resemble luxury time pieces. In conclusion, if you want the smart watch solely for exercise I suggest the Sony S3. If you want a very nice (large) watch that looks like a Rolex I'd suggest the Moto 360 (46 mm). If you want a smart watch for the office and exercising I'd suggest the Samsung Gear S2. Most importantly, all three of these watches are top performers with good processors and great screens. So the only thing that differs greatly is the appearance of the piece itself.

Would you buy one now?

Need to find a replacement for my trusty Gshock that just died. Am thinking of going with a smart watch and the Huawei seems to be the best of the bunch.
With the new version coming soon, would you buy one of these now? I can't seem to find any good sales on the current watch at the moment, so would likely buy sell and hand.
Or will the existing watch go on sale when the new one is released and used prices also drop?
What real benefits is the new model likely to offer?
Anyone in the UK have a good example they are thinking of selling? Ideally with stainless strap and black would also be a plus.
Cheers
Sorry, realised this should be in the Q&A forum. Sent request to admin

There's rumors that the HW 2 will be revealed in less than a week, so if I were you I'd wait until at least then so you'll have more facts before making a decision.
http://www.techradar.com/news/huawei-watch-2-release-date-news-and-rumors

I've bought my watch about week ago and I do not regret. Great watch

well.. looking at the reviews the newer models do not seem to offer a huge improvement over the HW, and I really love everything about this watch after almost a year now
So yes, would def buy one now especially that the price is lower

You should keep an eye out on Amazon (US version). I picked up a "used - like new" Huawei watch for $124 from Amazon Warehouse. I expected it to be damaged but it was like new, except the box wasn't sealed. Really good deal and I glad I got the watch.

I bought one yesterday as I don't like the sporty look.

tboy2000 said:
I bought one yesterday as I don't like the sporty look.
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worth it ???
even i'm getting a refund for my moto 360 2nd gen so should i buy this or go for zen watch 3 ?

umair shaikh said:
worth it ???
even i'm getting a refund for my moto 360 2nd gen so should i buy this or go for zen watch 3 ?
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The watch itself is great. Android Wear 1 is a laggy though. So Android Wear 2 should make it better.

With HW 2 being too gear s3 ish and no rotating bezel.. I mean WTF - I'll probably go with the first gen HW. I just really wish it had GPS and NFC. Once it goes back to < $200 I'm grabbing one. I'll go to best buy and return it if wear 2.0 isn't what I hope it is. If thats the case, maaaybe gear s3 classic can fit the bill.

I just got my HW yesterday. I replaced my beloved Moto 360 gen 1, and I'm really glad I did. The screen is beautiful, everything about the watch screams quality, no flat tire, Wear 2.0 officially incoming. I was watching to see if the price would come down after HW 2 was revealed, but it actually went up. I got lucky and found one at pre-reveal prices. Looks like I'm not the only one who thinks "sporty" autonomous smart watches are a terrible idea.

I got my HW last week, just before the HW 2 was announced and don't regret it a bit. This is a great watch and great replacement for my Sony Smartwatch 3.

honster said:
I got my HW last week, just before the HW 2 was announced and don't regret it a bit. This is a great watch and great replacement for my Sony Smartwatch 3.
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I actually have two. One with AW 2.0 DP4/5 and one still running AW 1.5 MM. Can't seem to part with either at this point. I also have a ZW2.

I have both Hwatch and ZW3, but I advise you rather buy ZW3 now (it is far newer watch with newer hardware) if your budget allows it. If not, then of course, Hwatch is a superb smartwatch, if you can find one for around 150eur.

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I have both Hwatch and ZW3, but I advise you rather buy ZW3 now (it is far newer watch with newer hardware) if your budget allows it. If not, then of course, Hwatch is a superb smartwatch, if you can find one for around 150eur.
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I disagree, the ZW3 has no hear rate sensor, ugly protruding buttons and proprietary straps. The only plus is the ambient light sensor without a flat tyre

ChristopherJZ said:
I disagree, the ZW3 has no hear rate sensor, ugly protruding buttons and proprietary straps. The only plus is the ambient light sensor without a flat tyre
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LOL own one and then say something..

VS88 said:
LOL own one and then say something..
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Why would owning the watch change any of the facts that he just listed?

TheSt33v said:
Why would owning the watch change any of the facts that he just listed?
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Naahh, nevermind

I ordered a Huawei Watch from Amazon and had a play, and have sent it back but may buy one again if the prices drop. It was the silver version and I would definitely want the black version. So I am keeping my eye out for deals on those. This watch is about as big as I would want to go, ideally a bit smaller.
I only played for a couple of hours and it seemed ok. The only thing I did notice, but didn't investigate too much, is that even on dim mode some of the watch faces were really bright.
I work nights and would want the watch to be stealthy at night. Is there a way to get the face really dim but still visible or is it a case of having to have the screen off? Hopefully that makes sense!
I also like the look of the LG Style (titanium) which from what I can gather is a bit smaller but has far less features. Is there anything else that might suit my needs? I may also just go for another Gshock for a few years and see how the smartwatches continue to pan out.

huawei watch 1 or zenwatch 3 ????
i love the huawei watch but zenwatch looks promising too !!!!

umair shaikh said:
huawei watch 1 or zenwatch 3 ????
i love the huawei watch but zenwatch looks promising too !!!!
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Zenwatch 3 for the style and new CPU, if you dont need heart rate sensor.
Hwatch is cheaper tho. Its all about preferences.