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Hey guys just received my n7 yesterday and am very pleased with this, however I have some questions.
Does rooting (only) removes your OTA updates access? I also own a Galaxy S4 (rooted) and I can't get OTA, it says it's modified, but I did flash a custom update on it and kernel. So if I just root my n7, and not flash anything, I will still get OTA's correct? I just want to use some apps which requires root access and not planning to flash a custom rooms or anything. Thanks for any help.
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Mine is always rooted, and I get all OTAs.
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You just need to have the stock recovery to receive OTAs.
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You just need to have the stock recovery to receive OTAs.
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So if I have twrp installed, i won't receive them?
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Takes 10 seconds to reflash the stock recovery.
UPDATE: SuperSU-v1.55 added the fix for the OTA update issue, so this post is no longer necessary unless you are using an older version of SuperSU
This post also applies to JSS15Q update.
I actually went through and tested JWR66N rooted with SuperSU and the JSS15J OTA update. I expected it to work but it exited with an error.
Ironically the JSS15J OTA actually did patch every single file successfully but near the end while setting permissions, it came up with an error, so after reboot you'll actually be running with all JSS15J rom files, except your build will still say JWR66N, you'll still be running the JWR66N recovery, and you'll still be running the 3.05 bootloader.
I tracked down the issue and put together a fix for it. If you want, it is attached to this post. You just run it after installing SuperSU, so basically:
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot boot twrp.img
within TWRP
install UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.51.zip (SuperSU v1.55 or greater incorporates the OTA fix)
install UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.55.zip
install UPDATE-SuperSU-ota.zip (can be chain installed, just make sure you choose to install it 2nd)
reboot
You'll need to redo these steps (both the installs) after you receive the OTA to preserve root and ability to receive future OTAs.
Also as others have mentioned it is best to be running stock recovery (which the above commands will allow you to do because twrp is never flashed on the tablet) I've attached the stock recovery for JSS15J in case someone needs it.
If you make ANY modifications or delete files from the stock ROM with your new root privileges, then you will greatly increase the chances of the OTA failing. Adding new files is normally fine.
Well shoot - now you have me worried. I did install TWRP, but never considered that would block OTAs. Do they attempt to install and fail?
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rmm200 said:
Well shoot - now you have me worried. I did install TWRP, but never considered that would block OTAs. Do they attempt to install and fail?
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On some platforms, especially when flashing bootloaders and/or radios, the stock recovery pulls some funky maneuvers to get that done. Often custom recoveries are not privy to those maneuvers. Also sometimes custom recoveries will experiment with custom kernels which don't always have the bootloader and/or radio devices mapped the same as the stock kernel. This can lead to problems to.
Thus it is safest to use stock recovery to flash OTAs.
I have flashed the complete JSS15J OTA except for the bootloader part using TWRP and it works ok. All the ROM files are patched.
I just didn't feel like risking my tablet with the bootloader flash portion of JSS15J OTA using twrp. It might work fine. I just know from the past the potential for issues are higher in that section of the OTA flash.
Is it common for nice folk on here to upload a stock zip of say for example, 4.3.1 when it releases so that we can flash it through a custom recovery (e.g., TWRP, CWM etc.), without having to change our custom recoveries?
It was common on other platforms I've used, but I don't know about here.
Root will not prevent an OTA update from coming in and installing, and a custom recovery won't "block" (it just won't be able to complete the install of it automatically). I have been installing OTA updates on rooted Nexus devices with custom recoveries since the Nexus One, and assuming the new Nexus 7 works the same way, the following applies:
If you are running stock ROM, your deivce will receive the notification and download the update, even if rooted
If you are running stock recovery, the update will install automatically as normal
If you are running a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP, it will fail to install automatically but it will still have downloaded to the device and you can use the custom recovery to install it yourself (I've never had this fail)
If you have modified files in /system, the OTA update is pretty much guaranteed to fail regardless of which recovery you use
If you successfully install the OTA update, you will no longer have root, so flash SuperSU using a custom recovery after the OTA update installs
Also:
You can always look for the OTA zip URLs on XDA and just download the update yourself to flash if you don't want to wait for it to come to your device (this is what I always do)
You can flash factory images instead of the update, without losing data (see other threads for how)
If you want to keep stock recovery installed, you can always use fastboot to boot a custom recovery without flashing it, in case you ever need it
The above is accurate and correct as far as I'm aware from my own experience over the years with Nexus devices. I'm sure someone will be happy to correct me if anything is wrong Hope this helps.
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Root will not prevent an OTA update from coming in and installing, and a custom recovery won't "block" (it just won't be able to complete the install of it automatically).
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I thought the same about root not blocking the OTA update install from being successful, but that was with years of using superuser.
With SuperSU (I am not sure which version introduced it) they set the immutable flag on a file in almost every OTA. I believe this is to support some OTA survival mode. This causes the OTA to fail in the section where it sets permissions. All the files are patched at that point, but the build.prop hasn't been modified to reflect the new version # and the bootloader and recovery haven't been flash.
You'll essentially be running JSS15J but your software will report it is on JWR66N, your bootloader wouldn't have been patched, and you would be running JWR66N recovery.
TheAltruistic said:
Is it common for nice folk on here to upload a stock zip of say for example, 4.3.1 when it releases so that we can flash it through a custom recovery (e.g., TWRP, CWM etc.), without having to change our custom recoveries?
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yes the ota update zip always gets posted so you can manually flash with a custom recovery...
just keep in mind you need to keep your files stock otherwise it might not work
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nolook said:
yes the ota update zip always gets posted so you can manually flash with a custom recovery...
just keep in mind you need to keep your files stock otherwise it might not work
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When you say keep your files stock what does that mean exactly? I have titanium backup app installed would that be one of them? Thanks.
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When you say keep your files stock what does that mean exactly? I have titanium backup app installed would that be one of them? Thanks.
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Titanium backup is an app, I assume with files he is targeting e. G. Config files.
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When you say keep your files stock what does that mean exactly? I have titanium backup app installed would that be one of them? Thanks.
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It means don't modify or delete any files in /system
Don't remove a system app that shipped with the tablet. You can install a new version as that just hides the one in /system, but if you remove or modify the original, then the OTA will very likely fail (depending on how complex the OTA is)
Adding files is ok.
Alright, so here's my scenario. Hopefully someone can tell me what should happen:
I am running the stock ROM on my Nexus 7 (2013), but I have ClockWorkMod Recovery installed and I'm using Koush's Superuser app for root permissions. The only system file that I think I have changed is my hosts file because of Adaway. That is easily reverted, though.
So can I just download the OTA, install it manually from the custom recovery (flashing the update.zip file), and then re-flash Koush's superuser app back onto the device?
Will that go smoothly, and will the newer build number be accurately reflected in my About Phone afterward?
(that last part is just my OCD talking)
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[*]If you are running a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP, it will fail to install automatically but it will still have downloaded to the device and you can use the custom recovery to install it yourself (I've never had this fail)
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This was very helpful, and this is the category i fall in. However, i have installed a kernel. does that change anything?
So basically what you are saying is this, with my current set up:
1 - i will get the update, it will download, but wont install. I should boot into TWRP and install the file that way. Correct? Where is the downloaded file stores?
2 - I can just wait for the download to be posted on here, and just install via twrp.
3 - either way, after installing it, i will lose root. I should then boot into twrp and flash supersu.
Correct?
Theoretically it could work. I believe the flash has worked with twrp.
Personally I always put stock recovery back to flash ota's though especially if there is a bootloader (or radio if you have a mobile version) because on some platforms they involve special procedures that may not be in the custom recovery.
On nexus it looks like it will work with custom recovery but it takes so little effort to put stock recovery back I just do it automatically.
Having said that, I've seen one person post it worked on twrp but haven't read an experience on cwm. Not saying it will or won't work.
If we are running the stock ROM, but have it rooted with the custom recovery, why cant we just use Wegfresh's nexus toolkit to Unroot and image using the updated IMG file?
Then go through and use it to recreate the root\custom recovery again?
Long story short, I was a victim of the bricked/unrecoverable OTA update situation that seems to be plaguing everyone lately. ASUS did repair my tablet, so it got back to me last week and it a fresh, untouched 4.4.2 as far as I can tell.
I am trying to get a better handle on the "proper", manual non-toolkit way of doing everything. I am up to the unlocked bootloader and have TWRP 2.8.4.0 flashed for recovery - now to root and updating.
My confusion with with flashing the SuperSU zip - should you just always us the most updated version (and where is the "proper" source everyone uses) or are there certain versions of SuperSU that pair correctly with different OS numbers (4.4.2, 4.4.4, 5.0.2, etc)? Is it always as simple as flashing the SuperSU.zip through TWRP after updating via factory image flash to a different OS version #? (Say from 4.4.2 now and flashing to 4.4.4 or 5.0.2)?
When I exited TWRP the first time after flashing it, it said I did not have superSU installed and did I want to - will that process auto-flash the zip and root the N7 with the correct superSU version (it is the latest TWRP release 2.8.4.0) or do I need to download the proper superSU.zip for TWRP to then find on my internal storage when that prompt comes up?
Thanks,
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Long story short, I was a victim of the bricked/unrecoverable OTA update situation that seems to be plaguing everyone lately. ASUS did repair my tablet, so it got back to me last week and it a fresh, untouched 4.4.2 as far as I can tell.
I am trying to get a better handle on the "proper", manual non-toolkit way of doing everything. I am up to the unlocked bootloader and have TWRP 2.8.4.0 flashed for recovery - now to root and updating.
My confusion with with flashing the SuperSU zip - should you just always us the most updated version (and where is the "proper" source everyone uses) or are there certain versions of SuperSU that pair correctly with different OS numbers (4.4.2, 4.4.4, 5.0.2, etc)? Is it always as simple as flashing the SuperSU.zip through TWRP after updating via factory image flash to a different OS version #? (Say from 4.4.2 now and flashing to 4.4.4 or 5.0.2)?
When I exited TWRP the first time after flashing it, it said I did not have superSU installed and did I want to - will that process auto-flash the zip and root the N7 with the correct superSU version (it is the latest TWRP release 2.8.4.0) or do I need to download the proper superSU.zip for TWRP to then find on my internal storage when that prompt comes up?
Thanks,
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You got it, flash recovery and select yes when it asks you if you want to install SU binary. If you plan on sticking with KitKat (that's what I'm doing, I hate Lollipop), then I recommend flashing the 4.4.4 system image via fastboot first, then flash recovery again, and then let TWRP install SU. I actually just did this yesterday. I dusted off my N7 after a year of not using it and it was still on 4.4.2 so yesterday I updated it to 4.4.4 by flashing a system image. Wanted a clean start.
I'm pretty sure it works the same for lollipop now too. Originally you needed to flash a special kernel, but I think now you can root it the same way as Kit Kat, ie. via recovery. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think I am.
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You got it, flash recovery and select yes when it asks you if you want to install SU binary. If you plan on sticking with KitKat (that's what I'm doing, I hate Lollipop), then I recommend flashing the 4.4.4 system image via fastboot first, then flash recovery again, and then TWRP install SU. I did this yesterday. I dusted off my N7 after a year of not using it and it was still on 4.4.2 so yesterday I updated it to 4.4.4 by flashing a system image. Wanted a clean start.
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10-4, thanks. So the 2.8.4.0 version of TWRP should already have that SU binary ready to roll (could either choose to flash it now and be rooted on 4.4.2, or fastboot flash the factory 4.4.4 and then reflash TWRP and flash the su zip?) No further superSU.zip/binary downloads, essentially?
I also think I will go with 4.4.4 for now, the 5.0.1 bricking my tablet left a bad aftertaste, it was OTA though. Perhaps fastboot factory image would have no issues.
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10-4, thanks. So the 2.8.4.0 version of TWRP should already have that SU binary ready to roll (could either choose to flash it now and be rooted on 4.4.2, or fastboot flash the factory 4.4.4 and then reflash TWRP and flash the su zip?) No further superSU.zip/binary downloads, essentially?
I also think I will go with 4.4.4 for now, the 5.0.1 bricking my tablet left a bad aftertaste, it was OTA though. Perhaps fastboot factory image would have no issues.
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It'll install the SU binary but then once you boot into the OS it prompts you to download SuperSU from the play store. Once you download it and open it, it'll prompt you to update the SU binary. Just hit yes and it'll do it for you, and then you reboot and you're done.
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It'll install the SU binary but then once you boot into the OS it prompts you to download SuperSU from the play store. Once you download it and open it, it'll prompt you to update the SU binary. Just hit yes and it'll do it for you, and then you reboot and you're done.
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Awesome, thanks man. From all the various threads about how to root, it makes it seem WAY more involved than that.
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Awesome, thanks man. From all the various threads about how to root, it makes it seem WAY more involved than that.
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No prob bud. One of the big benefits of Nexus devices is that they are super simple to root. Heck, they are super simple to do pretty much anything on. That's the only reason why I decided to start from scratch yesterday, because it's like nothing to do. The longest part was re-downloading all my apps, but still the whole process took about 30 min start to finish. If you're not downloading a ton of apps, it'll take you 5 minutes.
Hi! So I'm looking to root my Nexus 5x following this guide. However, I can't find the modified boot.img for my build MMB29P. I have a brand new phone out of the box (my mic stopped working so this is a replacement) so I'd like to get this done in the next little while the phone has no data and I can wipe anything I need to without worry and use the restore afterwards. I also heard something about SuperSU being able to use stock boot.img or something of that nature, could someone clue me in? Thanks!
[GUIDE] Unlock/Root/Flash for Nexus 5X - Heisenberg's How-To Guide For Beginners
take a look at section 6
as an alternative there are some toolkits that may be more convenient to you (on-screen instructions and detailed faq/guides)
The latest version of SuperSU (v. 2.66 I believe) is automated for systems root. I actually used the SuperSU beta v. 2.62 to root. I just unlocked bootloader, flashed TWRP, and then flashed that version of SuperSU.
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Sweet! Officially, unlocked, TWRP'd, rooted, and supersu'd So as far as upgrading? I grab the file from google officially and flash it via TWRP?
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Sweet! Officially, unlocked, TWRP'd, rooted, and supersu'd So as far as upgrading? I grab the file from google officially and flash it via TWRP?
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No, an official image cannot be flashed like that. If you fastboot flash an image you will lose recovery and root. Update officially with a factory image and root afterwards or flash a custom rom plus vendor.img.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=43558
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No, an official image cannot be flashed like that. If you fastboot flash an image you will lose recovery and root. Update officially with a factory image and root afterwards or flash a custom rom plus vendor.img.
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Even with systemless root?
When it comes to upgrading, there are a couple of routes you can take. Both involve downloading the official factory image ZIP first. Extract the contents, reboot into bootloader, and then you have option:
1. Edit the flash-all script (.bat for windows and .sh for Linux/Mac) by removing the -w option. Removing this option will prevent the upgrade from wiping user data. Once the option is removed, simply run the script to upgrade.
2. Flash the images individually. Sometimes certain things don't change like bootloader.img or radio.img. You should always flash boot.img, system.img, and vendor.img when updating. This is the route I take.
After flashing the images, you will need to reboot into Recovery mode and flash SuperSU. Then wipe cache and dalvik and reboot into system. If you use a custom kernel, you will need to reflash that as well after updating.
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Ah makes sense. So I just need to reroot. Where do you get the "official" factory image? Have a link handy so I can bookmark it? Thanks!
Also anyway to remove the "warning" about unlocked bootloader that comes up on boot? I heard you need a custom kernel but I don't know the point of installing what (aka the benefits). Sorry for noob questions, but all the info is so scattered and hard to figure out.
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Ah makes sense. So I just need to reroot. Where do you get the "official" factory image? Have a link handy so I can bookmark it? Thanks!
Also anyway to remove the "warning" about unlocked bootloader that comes up on boot? I heard you need a custom kernel but I don't know the point of installing what (aka the benefits). Sorry for noob questions, but all the info is so scattered and hard to figure out.
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Google posts the official factory images on the developer site. Here is the link: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
AFAIK the boot warning can't be removed, but I may be wrong. It's nothing to worry about though.
Having a custom kernel is not necessary, but there are benefits to using one. Custom kernels typically provide better battery life with same or improved performance. They can also make your device run cooler and use less memory. Custom kernels also allow for various tweaks such as change vibration intensty, screen DPI, headphone/speaker gain, etc. I personally use ElementalX with the Interactive Governor tweaks from the thread in the general forum, but I've read that Franco Kernel is very good as well and will probably try that out in the future.
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Sweet! Officially, unlocked, TWRP'd, rooted, and supersu'd So as far as upgrading? I grab the file from google officially and flash it via TWRP?
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Just pick a custom rom to try and follow OP instructions. Cataclysm seems to be a hit...
Hello,
I want to root my friends sprint note 4 (lolipop i believe). I was looking at this guide http://galaxynote4root.com/galaxy-note-4-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-4note-edge-on-android-5-1-1/ and it seems straightforward. A little different than what I had to do with my phone becuase I had to unlock the bootloader and then flash the recovery and supersu. (I've never used odin) Does this mean the bootloader is already unlocked by default since all I have to do is install the recovery and then the kernel?
I'm a little confused, once I get the recovery, can I flash roms to it? Do I have to change the kernel again if I want to install a ROM? I don't plan on putting a custom ROM on his phone but I want reflash the stock rom or a debloated stock rom because he said even after a factory reset it was buggy (if you can link me to a proper stock rom that supports xposed I would be grateful).
And I also want xposed to work, is there a specific xposed version I should install?
And also, if I do flash something, is this method correct?
Backup data
factory reset
flash
clear cache
restore data
reboot
or do I restore the data later?
The thread and video are dated. A few key elementary facts are still relevant but as a whole, just not up to date. I wouldn't trust it and it lends to repeated help threads in this forum. If one read the OPs and threads of current ROMs in development and recent help threads, maybe less questions and help would be needed.
He omits current ROMs, didn't mention where the reactivation lock is for TW Android ROMs: Settings/Security/Reactivation lock (should be disabled). He doesn't mention Chainfire Auto root for Note 4 has been updated for 5.1 and will be key again for marshmallow (but that's only needed for rooting stock Odex). He also didn't tell you how to get to those old ROMs on his site. Some think you just Odin an old update but not so. That requires a 5.1 kernel matched with current bootloader rather than Odin downgrade.
The bootloader, while not locked to block root, is considered unlocked but actually is now security locked to block older security stock tars with lower security bootloaders. It's actually unknown until confirmed what tar you can downgrade to. It won't be KitKat or OB7 and some just after that. From OK1 update, I'm only aware that you can downgrade from OK1 to OJ6 and if you flash the MM leaked tar, you can still downgrade to OK1.
Kernels should be kept in zip form because backing up a kernel in TWRP doesn't backup /system/lib/modules to restore and some custom kernels modify or add modules which may not work restored boot.img And restoring stock kernel on a rooted phone would cause a boot loop. So to restore that, you'd need to full un-root in SuperSU to avoid the boot loop there as well as restore the stock /system/lib/modules.
Root methods: unless you're using the full un-root or wiping everything but extSdCard (particularly user data and internal memory), you don't fully remove systemless root. Flashing a ROM or SuperSU with system based SuperSU over systemless root without the wipes would break things like root. Not seeing the SuperSU app or loss of ability to add new apps to superuser would be impacted but also a boot loop is possible if but patching stock kernel su.img to boot.
The basic principal is that to flash the custom deodexed ROM you need for Xposed, just make sure you're on the right update, Odin TWRP and follow the OP closely. If wiping internal memory is suggested by OP, I'd suggest that. To keep things simple, I backup and wipe everything but extSdCard for ports or where Xposed or systemless SuperSU is used. I typically do the same for stock tar updates as well.
As to recommended ROMs, I'd suggest any deodexed OK1 ROM for Xposed. tx_dbs_tx has a variety of OK1 ROMs. Freeza has one with Xposed integrated with Xposed modules in system. If Note 5 Moar port is a good fit, I'd recommend trying without Xposed until you determine the minimum of Xposed mods you're lacking so you're not overlapping features and you're getting to know the stability of it, first.
Rooting a friend's phone? IMO, you should be very sure and confident before proceeding and advise rather than do all the work and take the risks yourself. Use the correct USB driver, not just one that works. Setup his computer to root and sustain that phone.
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How is it dated exactly? I thought 5.1 is highest OTA for Note 4? Do OTA security patches change how things work now? I wouldn't know about security patches since I have a moto x 2013, we are left in the dust.
This is the ROM I am looking at http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/development/rom-t3271966
I'm still a little confused about the bootloader, right now my friend is on Sprint 5.1 lolipop. Is there a way to check the bootloader version? Can I not use Odin to install TWRP? And I'm not sure about the modem/kernel stuff, I didn't have to deal with it on my 2013 moto x. The website links to these kernels https://www.mediafire.com/folder/naq9dih44fndv/SM-N915P. Can I flash the latest kernel that was uploaded in January? The ROM contains root so I know I'm not supposed to flash superSU by itself, also obviously not to take any OTA's. I know that I'm supposed to install the wanam version of xposed that is optimized for samsung phones.
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How is it dated exactly? I thought 5.1 is highest OTA for Note 4?
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I answered that in detail.
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Do OTA security patches change how things work now?
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No; it's the bootloader and updates that did that.
rapiollymega said:
This is the ROM I am looking at http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/development/rom-t3271966
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Good choice.
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I'm still a little confused about the bootloader, right now my friend is on Sprint 5.1 lolipop. Is there a way to check the bootloader version?
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Answered. Use Phone Info from Google Play or Galaxy Tools.
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Can I not use Odin to install TWRP? And I'm not sure about the modem/kernel stuff, I didn't have to deal with it on my 2013 moto x. The website links to these kernels https://www.mediafire.com/folder/naq9dih44fndv/SM-N915P. Can I flash the latest kernel that was uploaded in January? The ROM contains root so I know I'm not supposed to flash superSU by itself, also obviously not to take any OTA's. I know that I'm supposed to install the wanam version of xposed that is optimized for samsung phones.
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Answered. Make sure you're updated, use Odin to flash TWRP and follow OP closely. I wouldn't concern myself with the kernels listed outside this forum. SuperSU and kernel are in those ROMs; they're pre-rooted. If you want an updated kernel, I'd recommend freeza Beastmode kernel from this forum.
Edit: don't use a Galaxy Edge ROM, kernel or recovery on a Note 4 or vice versa. To be clear, this is the Sprint Note 4 forum. SM-N910P not SM-N915P.
Edit 2: When flashing TWRP, verify the reactivation lock is unchecked in Settings/Security. Use latest Odin, uncheck only the auto reboot option. Once it flashes and you confirm 0 failed, pull USB and battery for 30 seconds. Reinstall battery and be sure to reboot directly into recovery. Skip steps and it may not stick.
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Answered. Make sure you're updated, use Odin to flash TWRP and follow OP closely. I wouldn't concern myself with the kernels listed outside this forum. SuperSU and kernel are in those ROMs; they're pre-rooted. If you want an updated kernel, I'd recommend freeza Beastmode kernel from this forum.
Edit: don't use a Galaxy Edge ROM, kernel or recovery on a Note 4 or vice versa. To be clear, this is the Sprint Note 4 forum. SM-N910P not SM-N915P.
Edit 2: When flashing TWRP, verify the reactivation lock is unchecked in Settings/Security. Use latest Odin, uncheck only the auto reboot option. Once it flashes and you confirm 0 failed, pull USB and battery for 30 seconds. Reinstall battery and be sure to reboot directly into recovery. Skip steps and it may not stick.
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Sorry if I'm not understanding some of your post since I'm not that experienced with android or the post is kind of worded ambiguously. For TWRP, should I use 3.0 or 2.8.7?
is now security locked to block older security stock tars with lower security bootloaders. It's actually unknown until confirmed what tar you can downgrade to. It won't be KitKat or OB7 and some just after that. From OK1 update, I'm only aware that you can downgrade from OK1 to OJ6 and if you flash the MM leaked tar, you can still downgrade to OK1.
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I'm not sure what you mean here. Looking at youtube videos, people just flash TWRP with Odin. Should I just try to put TWRP in? I understand the part about either removing the battery or trying to instant go into recovery.
So the ROM I'm looking at already has a kernel? So all I need to do it flash the zip? And then install xposed? Is it recommended to restore data or should I boot first once and then restore data. Also on a side question: For data restoring, is there a way to only specifically restore apps from a data backup? Thanks for the help.
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Sorry if I'm not understanding some of your post since I'm not that experienced with android or the post is kind of worded ambiguously. For TWRP, should I use 3.0 or 2.8.7?
I'm not sure what you mean here. Looking at youtube videos, people just flash TWRP with Odin. Should I just try to put TWRP in? I understand the part about either removing the battery or trying to instant go into recovery.
So the ROM I'm looking at already has a kernel? So all I need to do it flash the zip? And then install xposed? Is it recommended to restore data or should I boot first once and then restore data. Also on a side question: For data restoring, is there a way to only specifically restore apps from a data backup? Thanks for the help.
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It's the INTERNET that's ambiguous towards Touchwiz Android 5.1 There has been a few updates and each changed the way we do things. So when you say you're on Android 5.1, I say you need to be on the latest 5.1 update to have the greatest compatibility with the ROM you're choosing to flash.
Yes. You use Odin to install TWRP when rooting from full stock un-root to custom pre-rooted ROM. Perhaps my direction to Odin TWRP was ambiguous? Flash this in Odin AP slot with auto reboot unchecked- use the other option defaults from latest Odin:
https://dl.twrp.me/trltespr/twrp-3.0.0-0-trltespr.img.tar.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51767811&postcount=1
I would restore data after installing Xposed. Keep in mind that these installation boots of custom ROM and Xposed take time. The less apps and data, the shorter the boot times will be. Plus the ROM will have more time to stabilize. After you've verified the last three of the bootloader and modem matches OK1, you can proceed with TWRP, then install ROM per the 1st post and immediate posts from OP. When you get to the Wi-Fi connection in setup wizard, make sure you have radio signal before connecting Wi-Fi. Make sure everything is stable and functional before Xposed installation.
Again, about the long boot times on installation. Best to keep case off the phone and ventilate phone with not too cool or ambient air. This will speed the process and possibly prevent component failure.
When your ready for Xposed, you need the Wanam unofficial Xposed framework.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62377731&postcount=1
You'll need sdk22 arm for Lollipop, not 64 bit Exynos or MM.
Currently it's the one labeled: xposed-v80.0-sdk22-arm-custom-build-by-wanam-20160211.zip
Grab the uninstaller too, just in case. You shouldn't need it but be prepared.
Edit: be sure to get the deodexed version of that ROM. Makes things easier for Xposed and Xposed compatibility when adding system applications, if that applies to anytime later.
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Thanks for all the help, did it over the weekend and everything went smoothly. Well except for one part before installing the new ROM, I deleted everything in data/system and forgot that the zip was In the internal storage instead of the sd card . And for whatever reason the PC usb connection wasn't working in TWRP so I had to use a flash drive and otg cable to put the zip ROM back in the phone.
I have 5.01 and I want to update to 6.01. I want to wipe it clean. Got factory image from Google site.
What's the difference between the OTA and factory downloads?
I can just flash the factory in TWRP right? Will I lose root, or will TWRP ask if I want to keep root?
I still have boot loader unlocked.I just can't remember for the life of me, haven't done flashing etc in a few years.
Thanks!
So...not a single person can tell me if I lose root, or if TWRP will re-root?
Please?
N7 is no longer supported by Google and there will be no more OTA.
You can't flash the entire factory image directly from TWRP (but it is doable).
When you flash the factory image, you will lose root, TWRP and all your data.
NRT can simplify flashing, rooting and restoring TWRP.
You have unlocked boot loader
Just fastboot flash all as yiu want clean install
After that fastboot flash twrp
After that flash superSU
Done.
No need for any toolkit's, try to stay away of them and do it manually.
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k23m said:
N7 is no longer supported by Google and there will be no more OTA.
You can't flash the entire factory image directly from TWRP (but it is doable).
When you flash the factory image, you will lose root, TWRP and all your data.
NRT can simplify flashing, rooting and restoring TWRP.
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I know it isn't supported anymore. They still have the image's though.
Im just confused... Long time ago when I was really into all this, I just went to Googles page, downloaded the .zip and flashed it in TWRP. Now, the Google page is different and there isn't just 1 anymore. Can I just open the factory image and unzip the update part and flash that in TWRP?
The OTA files are only for updating from version to version correct? Can't go from what I'm on, 5.01 to the current 6.1 right? That's what I talking about and why I'm so confused now
Googles page used to have the OTA zip to update from prior newest to newest(5.0 to 5.01 for example) but than they also had the full OTA so you could do a 4.0 to 5.1 or whatever. Why they change the site? Which one do I use now to go from my 5.01 to current 6.1?
atifsh said:
You have unlocked boot loader
Just fastboot flash all as yiu want clean install
After that fastboot flash twrp
After that flash superSU
Done.
No need for any toolkit's, try to stay away of them and do it manually.
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That's the pronlem, normally yes I would do that no problem. I'm in the middle of upgrading my PC after had a surge or something and fried my ****.
That's why I want to do it via TWRP like I always did before. Every time TWRP asked if I wanted to retain root after updating also. So what in the world happened in the last year that It doesn't seem like I can now? Like I said above, I can't find a full update OTA on!y the incremental OTAs...
Syntax323 said:
I know it isn't supported anymore. They still have the image's though.
Im just confused... Long time ago when I was really into all this, I just went to Googles page, downloaded the .zip and flashed it in TWRP. Now, the Google page is different and there isn't just 1 anymore. Can I just open the factory image and unzip the update part and flash that in TWRP?
The OTA files are only for updating from version to version correct? Can't go from what I'm on, 5.01 to the current 6.1 right? That's what I talking about and why I'm so confused now
Googles page used to have the OTA zip to update from prior newest to newest(5.0 to 5.01 for example) but than they also had the full OTA so you could do a 4.0 to 5.1 or whatever. Why they change the site? Which one do I use now to go from my 5.01 to current 6.1?
That's the pronlem, normally yes I would do that no problem. I'm in the middle of upgrading my PC after had a surge or something and fried my ****.
That's why I want to do it via TWRP like I always did before. Every time TWRP asked if I wanted to retain root after updating also. So what in the world happened in the last year that It doesn't seem like I can now? Like I said above, I can't find a full update OTA on!y the incremental OTAs...
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Ok yes that's possible
If you have twrp already
Check development forum and choose one of the ROM.
Download it to your tablet plus gapps
Wipe system, cache and data leaving internal storage.
Flash ROM reboot, come back to twrp and flash gapps. ( Can do ROM + Gapps in one go)
Download SuperSU and flash to get root.
You can't flash stock image / OTA via twrp.
While you're doing all this try the 7.0 ROM its good enough now.
atifsh said:
Ok yes that's possible
If you have twrp already
Check development forum and choose one of the ROM.
Download it to your tablet plus gapps
Wipe system, cache and data leaving internal storage.
Flash ROM reboot, come back to twrp and flash gapps. ( Can do ROM + Gapps in one go)
Download SuperSU and flash to get root.
You can't flash stock image / OTA via twrp.
While you're doing all this try the 7.0 ROM its good enough now.
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Ahhh what happened??? Why can you not flash them with TWRP???
Thats what I used to do no problem. Not referring to custom roms either.
I am wanting stock rooted.
I used to download the update when one was released from Google's site, put the update.zip in main directory, go in recovery and flash update.zip. TWRP would ask me if I wanted to keep root, I say yes, reboot, update installs... than i'm on the new Android version still rooted.
How is that not possible now?
I am so annoyed... I never had to go through ADB or fastboot to update to latest. I did everything on my N7, it kept root for me and everything.
I feel so dumb right now its ridiculous lol
So than what way can I go about updating my N7 2013 Wifi, which I currently have 5.01. I am Rooted w/ unlocked bootloader.
What is the best way not using ADB, or a PC at all for that matter to update to the latest, 6.01. If possible, how can I keep root, if not i'm not worried about it, i'll just re-root myself.
I appreciate all the responses, sorry if i'm just being an idiot. I just know for a fact I never had to use ADB or my PC to update and keep root...
I'm not familiar with Stock OTA done with twrp (if that's even possible)
Already told you get a custom ROM, get the one mostly stock or if there's a stock ROM in zip format available.
In future you might need to update that bootloader of yours for newer ROMs
Sorry if this sounds harsh why are you so into keeping root as you can't do it again? It's simple as flashing SuperSU. Root method changed after 6 you cant have old methods with 6.
Best bet for you at the moment.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3219148
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