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Hi,
I currently have an S6 and I really want to switch over to the G4 but I see a bunch of negative issues regarding the G4. has anyone switched from the S6 and would it be worth it for me to trade over? any input would be greatly appreciated thank you.
Anyone extremely happy with their G4?
I just switched from the S6 to the G4, but I have used the G4 for less than 24 hours so I can't give an full opinion yet but I wanted the bigger screen so that is the main reason I made the switch. I will give my pro and cons later as I find things i like or don't like about the G4 I'm comparison to the S6.
Of you want root then for now stick with the S6.
It depends. Do you play any games on your phone? Watch videos for extended periods of time? If so, the s6 is better. It manages battery better and doesn't get near as hot as the g4. If you're on Verizon, you'll also get the stripped software version, but still fully loaded with Verizon bloat. The g4 screen and camera are excellent on the g4....the s6 camera is better in some situations and not as good in others.
The s6 is also a little faster/more smooth than the g4. I'm returning mine in favor of swapping between the s6 and Note 4. My major deciding factors are battery life and stripped software features. The g4 also drops brightness to 80/90% pretty aggressively after a few minutes of use. The battery life is just pathetic. A lot of people, same as with EVERY phone, are going to claim to have 80 hours of battery with 70 hours screen on time, but it's mostly rubbish. If you wanna use your phone, full brightness, the battery will melt. It also dies on the s6 and Note 4 faster with full brightness. .but not near as fast as the g4 and it isn't near as hot either. Couple that with the terribly slow charging, and you pretty much have the functionality of a 2010 smartphone.
I switched about 10 days ago and havent looked back. Im not really having any issues with the G4 myself.
Also, theres several threads on this matter already.
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It depends. Do you play any games on your phone? Watch videos for extended periods of time? If so, the s6 is better. It manages battery better and doesn't get near as hot as the g4. If you're on Verizon, you'll also get the stripped software version, but still fully loaded with Verizon bloat. The g4 screen and camera are excellent on the g4....the s6 camera is better in some situations and not as good in others.
The s6 is also a little faster/more smooth than the g4. I'm returning mine in favor of swapping between the s6 and Note 4. My major deciding factors are battery life and stripped software features. The g4 also drops brightness to 80/90% pretty aggressively after a few minutes of use. The battery life is just pathetic. A lot of people, same as with EVERY phone, are going to claim to have 80 hours of battery with 70 hours screen on time, but it's mostly rubbish. If you wanna use your phone, full brightness, the battery will melt. It also dies on the s6 and Note 4 faster with full brightness. .but not near as fast as the g4 and it isn't near as hot either. Couple that with the terribly slow charging, and you pretty much have the functionality of a 2010 smartphone.
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Amazing review thanks
Rippley05 said:
It depends. Do you play any games on your phone? Watch videos for extended periods of time? If so, the s6 is better. It manages battery better and doesn't get near as hot as the g4. If you're on Verizon, you'll also get the stripped software version, but still fully loaded with Verizon bloat. The g4 screen and camera are excellent on the g4....the s6 camera is better in some situations and not as good in others.
The s6 is also a little faster/more smooth than the g4. I'm returning mine in favor of swapping between the s6 and Note 4. My major deciding factors are battery life and stripped software features. The g4 also drops brightness to 80/90% pretty aggressively after a few minutes of use. The battery life is just pathetic. A lot of people, same as with EVERY phone, are going to claim to have 80 hours of battery with 70 hours screen on time, but it's mostly rubbish. If you wanna use your phone, full brightness, the battery will melt. It also dies on the s6 and Note 4 faster with full brightness. .but not near as fast as the g4 and it isn't near as hot either. Couple that with the terribly slow charging, and you pretty much have the functionality of a 2010 smartphone.
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VZW really screwed you guys. Not sure why they felt the need to strip the phone down of features, yet left the Sammy devices alone...
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VZW really screwed you guys. Not sure why they felt the need to strip the phone down of features, yet left the Sammy devices alone...
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Well they strip Samsung devices too. Not usually as bad, but they did rip the Samsung Browser and app manager apps off. They were easy to replace once we got root.
I hate Verizon. They're really my only option tho. They just really over stepped their bounds on stripping the g4. Apple doesn't allow this to happen, I wish Android would tighten it up a little bit as far as that stuff goes
Barely got my G4 yesterday so I can't really give a good comparison yet. However, I did notice that the S6 is a lot smoother than the G4. Not that the G4 lags, but the difference for me was obvious from the start.
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I actually never got that new phone excitement with either one this year. Neither feels like an upgrade from my S4 except in screen size and camera. Overall I probably liked the S6 more sock vs stock, but I get better battery life with the G4. Once we get root and unlocked BL I think this will be the better device. Hopefully an update fixes some of the issues. It seems like LG rushed out a kernel that wasn't fully ready yet. I look forward to the devs improving the G4.
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I actually never got that new phone excitement with either one this year. Neither feels like an upgrade from my S4 except in screen size and camera. Overall I probably liked the S6 more sock vs stock, but I get better battery life with the G4. Once we get root and unlocked BL I think this will be the better device. Hopefully an update fixes some of the issues. It seems like LG rushed out a kernel that wasn't fully ready yet. I look forward to the devs improving the G4.
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If you don't mind, can you please tell me what some of the issues you're experiencing? I have a Nexus 6 on Verizon and I want the S6 or G4 as a second phone but, I can't decide. I've had the G2, G3, Note 3, Note 4. So I'm really torn. Both have great Camera's so I've read. I have small kids so camera is huge deal to me. Thanks.
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If you don't mind, can you please tell me what some of the issues you're experiencing? I have a Nexus 6 on Verizon and I want the S6 or G4 as a second phone but, I can't decide. I've had the G2, G3, Note 3, Note 4. So I'm really torn. Both have great Camera's so I've read. I have small kids so camera is huge deal to me. Thanks.
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If Camera is your main focus, neither will probably disappoint. I have no experience with the S6 (more a refusal to try after my experience with the Note 4 which became a disaster). I have 3 kids, so I know how ya feel about wanting a great camera experience to capture all that they do. I've taken a bunch of pictures with the G4 of my kids running, swinging, bowling in various types of light and they have come out great. I have been using auto only so far, but plan to play around with the manual mode a bit more once I have time off from work and can tinker more. S6 is supposed to be equally good in auto, but lacks the manual control and RAW ability the G4 has...though I will * that as "right now", since I am sure that Sammy will push that out once the S6 gets 5.1.
Thanks, appreciate that.
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Thanks, appreciate that.
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Anytime! Trust me, I know how hard a decision it is to choose between the 2. Ultimately what sold me was that the G4 was $80-380 cheaper depending on which S6/S6E and how much memory I wanted and LG was offering an extra battery, external charger and 32GB sdcard, and T-Mobile was giving a 128GB sdcard as well. I also think that pictures really make the device look kinda cheesy, when I felt it looks and feels better "in the hand" than pictures would indicate. I'd recommend going into a store that has both and just playing with each. Probably easiest way to make your decision.
The G4 on Verizon is seemingly fine for me. It is lasting longer in my daily routine than my LG G2 (which has been touted as having superb battery life). I really can't complain.
I don't see what Verizon pulled out except the "Themes" for the launcher or something... which I replace with Nova. Not sure about the Messaging or Keyboard, but I don't use stock Messaging. And the stock white lollipop themed keyboard is my fav. I don't know what else is missing from the others, but I am not missing it.
I am missing the stock LG Wireless Storage options from the Verizon LG G2.
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Anytime! Trust me, I know how hard a decision it is to choose between the 2. Ultimately what sold me was that the G4 was $80-380 cheaper depending on which S6/S6E and how much memory I wanted and LG was offering an extra battery, external charger and 32GB sdcard, and T-Mobile was giving a 128GB sdcard as well. I also think that pictures really make the device look kinda cheesy, when I felt it looks and feels better "in the hand" than pictures would indicate. I'd recommend going into a store that has both and just playing with each. Probably easiest way to make your decision.
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That's quite a deal.. And the dimensions of the G4 are more in the range I'm used to. If I went with the S6, it'd be an almost full inch smaller to my Nexus 6. Quite a difference when it comes to handling the phone. The S6 is still intriguing to me, maybe it's the different processor. Never had a phone that wasn't Qualcomm chipped. Thanks again for your unbiased opinions/views.
I've seem far more complaints about the s6 than the G4. Not even close.
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I bought the samsung S6 for the wife, and i got the G4 as other state: camera, display, size, battery goodies, 808 qualcomm , are really good , the display is top notch, like it better than the sammy, I just keeping at 56% and still super nice battery long day and half with moderate use as well disabled all the bloat first, as smartshare.media server and dlna/smartshare provider
Using Nova prime, smooth as hell, but NO Fast and some lag , using from my M8 the power cord to fast charge the battery it does faster but the regular LG power cable it does just fine as well, my wife get jealous of me cause the quality of pics from G4 .
Its a pleasure hold this phone 5.5 LG managed to do in small factor again that gorgeous screen, but no with the software to the end phone look so nice and for me the Samsung g6 is a better phone/user experience than G4
Edit: update G4 going back, ill get the Samsung s6 active
I had the S6 and swapped it for the G4 and it was a great decision, The S6 is a still good phone what enticed me more was the size but that's just preference and coming from a one plus it wasn't much difference and not to mention that as of now the phone can be rooted where as G4 most variants cant be, that aside the battery life is better and the camera is better. The s6 also I'm sure you are aware of has Ram issues it would use about 75% just being idle, the leather back I suppose compensates for the glass that had the S6 going for. I feel as though Touchwiz is slighty better this time around but I prefer stock android. Lastly the lack of fingerprint scanner which isn't a deal breaker to me but would of been nice to have on the G4.
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It depends. Do you play any games on your phone? Watch videos for extended periods of time? If so, the s6 is better. It manages battery better and doesn't get near as hot as the g4. If you're on Verizon, you'll also get the stripped software version, but still fully loaded with Verizon bloat. The g4 screen and camera are excellent on the g4....the s6 camera is better in some situations and not as good in others.
The s6 is also a little faster/more smooth than the g4. I'm returning mine in favor of swapping between the s6 and Note 4. My major deciding factors are battery life and stripped software features. The g4 also drops brightness to 80/90% pretty aggressively after a few minutes of use. The battery life is just pathetic. A lot of people, same as with EVERY phone, are going to claim to have 80 hours of battery with 70 hours screen on time, but it's mostly rubbish. If you wanna use your phone, full brightness, the battery will melt. It also dies on the s6 and Note 4 faster with full brightness. .but not near as fast as the g4 and it isn't near as hot either. Couple that with the terribly slow charging, and you pretty much have the functionality of a 2010 smartphone.
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do people really use their phone at max brightness? I use auto if I'm out doors otherwise less than 30 percent. Full brightness hurts my eyes.
Hi
I'm thinking to switch from a note 4 to a LG G4 but before I wanted to decide on want to ask the G4 users how there experience is with the phone. How is battery life and heat with this phone? How is camera?
I'm a moderate gamer but I watch often movies on my phone. S pen is not that important for me
the biggest problem of LG G4 is only about battery. I personally just can achieve 4-6 hours of battery life. My G4 was worked normally until last week: the temperature became 60'C, always restarting when overheated (now my G4 is at LG Service Center). Camera is absolutely the best, even note5 can't beat it. Screen size is only 5.5, so if you came from Note3 or Note4, you'll miss roomy screen. So, if you need best camera, buy it, otherwise upgrade to other phone IMHO
I dont know how battery life will improve with the marshmallow update. I just updated yesterday so time will show that. I would say battery life is about 4-5hrs SOT. If you are used to longer screen on time you might be in for a suprise. However the camera is the best i have seen. I don't know how it would compare to the note 5. Another device worth looking at is the Nexus 6P. It is up there with the best so maybe go into a store and check it out. Bottom line im happy with my LG G4. No lag at all
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I came from a Note 4. I loved my Note, but figured out, that after a while I didn't need the S-Pen anymore.
The G4 is not as "Productive" as the Note, but comes along with an awesome camera and, if you're rooted and got the right apps on you phone, with a good battery life.
In fact, I'm happy to have changed from Samsung to the G4, but it's surely a question of taste, too. But I can recommend it. I'm super satisfied Cheers
Follow_and_Feel said:
I came from a Note 4. I loved my Note, but figured out, that after a while I didn't need the S-Pen anymore.
The G4 is not as "Productive" as the Note, but comes along with an awesome camera and, if you're rooted and got the right apps on you phone, with a good battery life.
In fact, I'm happy to have changed from Samsung to the G4, but it's surely a question of taste, too. But I can recommend it. I'm super satisfied Cheers
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How is your battery life? How many hours SOT are you getting
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Follow_and_Feel said:
I came from a Note 4. I loved my Note, but figured out, that after a while I didn't need the S-Pen anymore.
The G4 is not as "Productive" as the Note, but comes along with an awesome camera and, if you're rooted and got the right apps on you phone, with a good battery life.
In fact, I'm happy to have changed from Samsung to the G4, but it's surely a question of taste, too. But I can recommend it. I'm super satisfied Cheers
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How is battery life and the heating of the phone these 2 aspects are really important for me
Follow_and_Feel said:
I came from a Note 4. I loved my Note, but figured out, that after a while I didn't need the S-Pen anymore.
The G4 is not as "Productive" as the Note, but comes along with an awesome camera and, if you're rooted and got the right apps on you phone, with a good battery life.
In fact, I'm happy to have changed from Samsung to the G4, but it's surely a question of taste, too. But I can recommend it. I'm super satisfied Cheers
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How is heat and battery life ?
jizang said:
How is heat and battery life ?
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I have no heat problems and as I said: Battery life is good for me. Usually I have 2 days until I have to charge my phone again (If I'm not using it very often).
Otherwise I have to charge it every 24 hours, if I'm using it alot.
I think there's no big difference between the battery life of the Note 4 and the G4. I usually had to charge both phones at night, which is pretty much ok for me.
If I had to make a choice I'd say the LG G4 lasts a little longer (if rooted) Cheers
EDIT: If I'm power using it I get like 5-6 hours SOT, which is also similar to the Note 4
Remember results may vary.
The guy above me is getting 5 -6 hours SOT. But for me I can only achieve that when I am at home on wifi all day. And maybe the same is true for follow_and_feel. So it really depends on your day to day activities.
In a nutshell. If you're in a area with spotty connectivity, battery life will take a huge plummet. On work days my building is in a spotty area, and the phone lasts me until the end of the day with maybe 5-10%. With 3ish hours SOT under my belt. If the network wasn't spotty I'd probably look at 4 hours or more.
The only time I experience heat is under heavy usage, very spotty areas, or while using a garbage app like snapchat. Otherwise on normal day to day use with messaging, browsing, social media, the odd video here and there the phone stays cool.
Camera on this bad boy is out of this world. I've seen some of the shots people have taken and they look very professional. To the average person, they would barely be able to tell the difference between a G4 picture and one taken with a proper camera. The camera is probably the biggest selling point.
Lastly gaming. Gaming is a no no. Battery goes down very fast, and the phone eventually heats up as well. You can get away with some light games like Clash of Clans but don't expect the battery to hold up. The GPU is weaker than it's hot headed older brother (Snapdragon 810). If gaming is very big for you, I'd honestly say get the Note.
Videos is not an issue though. You might get some warmth though but nothing major
Hello everyone,
I know this is a P2 thread but if anyone has experience with both devices, or has read about this, please give me some infos.
I already googled but there's everything. Thats why I wanted to ask the "real" user of this device.
So, I ordered myself a Redmi Note 4, the snapdragon version. I have to wait for a week maybe.
But still, I know that Redmi Note 4 is about 50€ cheaper, but, which device is better?
I think that P2 has better battery life (SoT) because of that 5100 mAh battery but, how are the other things?
I know that RN4's camera in daylight is okay, but in lowlight "terrible". How is the P2's camera?
And about the speed, which device is faster? Gaming isnt important for me. Just App opening, YouTube, Facebook, WhatsApp and such.
Is the P2's software reliable and does the phone feel "premium" in hand?
One IMPORTANT thing more, this is a dealbreaker for me.
Does P2 support LTE Band 20? For me in Germany it is a must.
If the P2 is really so much better, I would not care about those 50€. I just wanna a phone with great battery life.
Although I already ordered RN4, I could sell it and buy myself a P2 if its the 50€ worth.
Thanks!
I HAVE NOT USED ANY OF THE 2 PHONES
Anyway.....the P2 seems to do Band 20 while the Redmi Note 4 doesn't seem to (according to Gsmarena, anyway). I think the speed should be rather similar - where the P2 is better than the Note 4 seems to be in non-performance things like the battery (as you've written) or possibly the AMOLED screen which seems to be better than the Redmi Note 4's LCD (albeit IPS).
Something possibly in the P2's favour in terms of speed is the fact that Xiaomi modifies the OS a lot more from Google's Android than Lenovo nowadays does.
People don't seem very impressed with the P2's camera at all - don't know how it compares to the RN4 though.
The P2 definitely supports Band 20 as I use it on the Three UK network that uses 3 and 20 and no problems.
I had considered the Redmi Note 4 too but the lack of band 20 support and the potential poor build quality and support put me off.
The screen on the P2 is very nice and the battery life makes up for any other shortfalls. The camera is nothing special but I'm happy with it.
1. The P2 has better SoT...of course..with the huge 5100mah battery.
2. The P2 has better visibility in sunlight due to its AMOLED screen.
3. Due to #2, the battery consumption by the screen is lighter if you were to use a dark/black wallpaper. Just google AMOLED vs IPS LCD.
Alright, thanks y'all, for Infos.
Just to make it clear, I ordered a Redmi Note 4 with Band 20 support. That is why I asked about the Band 20 for P2.
But still, are you guys happy with P2 in terms of speed?
Battery is good anyways, I know that.
For camera I don't know. That's why asked if someone uses/used both of these devices.
Does the phone start to lag after some time? Does it feel (after some time) differently? I mean feel in terms of usage of buttons etc.
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chorba69 said:
Hello everyone,...
One IMPORTANT thing more, this is a dealbreaker for me.
Does P2 support LTE Band 20? For me in Germany it is a must.
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FYI...
Having used P2 and RN3, I found the User experience, battery optimisation, Ram optimisation, battery life, UI a lot lot better for the Lenovo P2.
Also I don't know about the camera, also I don't care about that much, but it does the job pretty well and for me it's pretty good.
The build quality seems better for P2 and the costomer support is good out here. So I'd choose P2 over a cheaper RN4.
Honest opinion? They are both on par to each other.
The hardware is identical and thus both devices equally good or bad.
In terms of software support they are both more or less equal as well as both have unofficial Lineage OS builds available, although the Note 4 one is more complete than the P2 one at the moment.
At the end of the day though it doesn't make much of a difference. I personally am still running on an Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 PRO Special Edition phone running Lineage OS 14.1 and only charge the phone twice per week.
If you however do decide to get rid of the Note 4, do get in touch with me as my wife needs a new phone anyway.
Alright, thank y'all 3.
To be honest, I used MIUI on my lg g2 and I dont have any problems with it. I found it cool tbh. After years and years of Cyanogenmod, it was cool to see something else
I mean, I think that both phones are "equally" fast. I dont care about that 0.01 second difference.
If everything goes well with the RN4, I will flash Lineage OS anyways. So the software is not a problem.
I just want that my phone makes the 8 hours of SoT, whatever I do, which I think should not be a problem for both of those devices.
Lenovo P2 may make it even more than 10 SoT, but if the difference is "just" 1 hour in SoT, thats not a dealbreaker for me.
Just a question for you two @Siva Mk and @MrColdbird
How much SoT do you get with both of your devices? Are those 8 hours SoT possible?
@MrColdbird,
can't promise I will sell the phone right away. I wanna test it out and eventually flash the Lineage OS later.
We have to wait for about 1-2 weeks for that bootloader unlock. Thats why the phone is going to stay lil bit longer in my pocket!
@chorba69 I can reach 9-10 hours of SOT on my Redmi Note 3 PRO Special Edition phone easily with Lineage OS 14.1.
In fact its more or less a given for me, which means I don't have to try hard (disable random ****) just to reach that.
So yeah... its not a question of reaching 8 hours, its more of a... do you want 12 hours (P2) or are 9-10 (RN3 PRO SE / RN4 PRO SE) good enough for you?
While I don't have a P2 or RN4 PRO SE myself (yet), I've heard from several friends that jumped ship for the RN4 PRO SE that it more or less performs identically to the RN3 PRO SE, which means my input should apply to your case just as well.
The last I got was 12 hrs sot
@MrColdbird,
10 hours of SoT should do the job for me.
I heard the same about RN3 and RN4. Just, afaik RN4 has lil bit higher SoT than RN3. It because of the 625 Snapdragon. Its almost equally fast as 650 Snapdragon, but the battery managment ist better.
Thats why a RN4 user should get more SoT than RN3 user.
Just yeah, there is a thread here in P2 forums, where people posted screenshots of SoT.
Some have reached 16 (!!!) hours of SoT. Thats why I thought of getting a P2 and selling the RN4. 6 hours SoT more for just 50€ is A LOT in my opinion.
They said it was normal use which means web browsing, youtube, facebook and bit gaming.
I dont know if thats true nor I can confirm it, but those 16 hours SoT more on P2 are really amazing.
I'm not sure if RN4 can achieve that. Maybe 12 hours but not more.
On another note, I think that noboy of us need more than 10 hours screen on. I would charge my phone every night anyways.
Or at least I think so because my lg g2 is over the night on a charger. Maybe I will change my mind when the RN4 finally arrives!
@Siva Mk,
P2 or RN3?
@chorba69 I charge my RN3 PRO SE twice a week (sometimes three times, especially when power-using it over the weekend when I'm off).
So yeah... your charging habits might change if you are coming from a < 4000mah device.
@MrColdbird,
alright thanks.
Just, you are then not a power user or?
I mean I spend over 5 hours per day on my phone.
Whole day at work a bit (8 hours) and then when I come home I dont use my laptop/PC since I can do everything on my phone.
Thats why I think I am gonna charge my phone every night. Maybe with RN4 every second night.
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@MrColdbird,
alright thanks.
Just, you are then not a power user or?
I mean I spend over 5 hours per day on my phone.
Whole day at work a bit (8 hours) and then when I come home I dont use my laptop/PC since I can do everything on my phone.
Thats why I think I am gonna charge my phone every night. Maybe with RN4 every second night.
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german user here ...
just got my p2 like a week ago ( last sat ) and i am still running the first charge....
current stats are
25% remaining charge
4 d 20h "device on"
4 h 30 min display on
- gps, bt, wifi, auto brightness, all push on
- paired with android wear ( so my screen on is a bit lower because i can check stuff on watch )
pretty happy so far.
lovely device, haven't experienced any bugs with stock nougat
annoying for 14 days unlock bootloader wait
lte (vodafone prepaid) working fine
before i have seen a lot of deals of the xiaomi redmi note 4 and was almost into that one, but i rather prefered the bigger battery and emui is quite **** ( came from that from another device )
speaker quite clear it's a breesze to watch some videos ( except htc m7 the second device which has actually good sound )
ask me anything...
p2 on amazon several times for 230€ ( fr or it ) - actually got 3 devices in like a month ( few friends wanted too, they got it first) rather wanted to complain at amazon if anything goes on within 2 years.
xiaomi redmi 4 is sold on gearbest for like 150-160€ with UK to Germany shipping but i don't like that shop...
I love my P2. I have an iPhone 6S Plus and an LG V10 too. But they have been unused for weeks. The P2 is special with its battery life. Very smooth in operation and it feels good in the hand. Very good screen with great outdoor visibility even in brighter days. Camera is OK nothing more. The only weak point really. It's good enough in good light though.
I constantly get 15 hours screen on time with my P2 over three days full usage.
@endrancer, @dannejanne,
daamn guys you are gonna make me sell the Redmi Note 4 before it even comes to my house lol
Everything you have said is just good. I mean okay, Camera could be better but Redmi Note 4 camera isnt better either so that is not a big deal between those two.
The only "problem" is; nobody of you two ever used RN4 right? I mean, you cant give me a comparasion between those two because you have never used the RN4.
But, how does the P2 feel in the hand? slippery or its cool? or you have a phone-case?
I've watched a lot of youtube videos and the only thing I have noticed (thats worth mentioning) is the battery, which is obvious.
P2 might be 0,1 seconds faster but I dont care about that. And thats maybe just because of the software.
If both had a LineageOS, it would be the same (I think at least).
And about the price on amazon/gearbest @endrancer ;
I found some offers for P2 on ebay for 180-190€. 3 weeks old but without scratches = almost new.
And yeah, I bought the RN4 on gearbest for 147€. for 10€ a cool case and 2 screen protectors. that meanst for 160€ everything I need.
P2 ist about 50€ more expensive but yeah. If 50€ is for 5 hours SoT more, then I would get it. If it is for 1-1.5 hours more, I think I'll pass.
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@endrancer, @dannejanne,
daamn guys you are gonna make me sell the Redmi Note 4 before it even comes to my house lol
Everything you have said is just good. I mean okay, Camera could be better but Redmi Note 4 camera isnt better either so that is not a big deal between those two.
The only "problem" is; nobody of you two ever used RN4 right? I mean, you cant give me a comparasion between those two because you have never used the RN4.
But, how does the P2 feel in the hand? slippery or its cool? or you have a phone-case?
I've watched a lot of youtube videos and the only thing I have noticed (thats worth mentioning) is the battery, which is obvious.
P2 might be 0,1 seconds faster but I dont care about that. And thats maybe just because of the software.
If both had a LineageOS, it would be the same (I think at least).
And about the price on amazon/gearbest @endrancer ;
I found some offers for P2 on ebay for 180-190€. 3 weeks old but without scratches = almost new.
And yeah, I bought the RN4 on gearbest for 147€. for 10€ a cool case and 2 screen protectors. that meanst for 160€ everything I need.
P2 ist about 50€ more expensive but yeah. If 50€ is for 5 hours SoT more, then I would get it. If it is for 1-1.5 hours more, I think I'll pass.
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No I have not used the RN4. Only other Xiaomi phones such as the Mi Max and Mi Mix.
It feels great in the hand. Very solid. Build quality like any flagship. The back is anodized aluminum and it is not slippery at least not for me. Some aluminum phones can be slippery. Not this one. I go all naked. You simply don't get anything better for the money today really. It's a fantastic allrounder that is impossible to kill in one day.
And yeah the speaker is AWESOME. Very full sound with bass even. For the first time I use the phone as a mini stereo from time to time.
chorba69 said:
@endrancer, @dannejanne,
daamn guys you are gonna make me sell the Redmi Note 4 before it even comes to my house lol
Everything you have said is just good. I mean okay, Camera could be better but Redmi Note 4 camera isnt better either so that is not a big deal between those two.
The only "problem" is; nobody of you two ever used RN4 right? I mean, you cant give me a comparasion between those two because you have never used the RN4.
But, how does the P2 feel in the hand? slippery or its cool? or you have a phone-case?
I've watched a lot of youtube videos and the only thing I have noticed (thats worth mentioning) is the battery, which is obvious.
P2 might be 0,1 seconds faster but I dont care about that. And thats maybe just because of the software.
If both had a LineageOS, it would be the same (I think at least).
And about the price on amazon/gearbest @endrancer ;
I found some offers for P2 on ebay for 180-190€. 3 weeks old but without scratches = almost new.
And yeah, I bought the RN4 on gearbest for 147€. for 10€ a cool case and 2 screen protectors. that meanst for 160€ everything I need.
P2 ist about 50€ more expensive but yeah. If 50€ is for 5 hours SoT more, then I would get it. If it is for 1-1.5 hours more, I think I'll pass.
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it's up to you to judge.
the device feels good by itself - comparing other devices with a huge battery ( like elephone p8000 with 4000mah ) p2 is really slim and light having even bigger battery.
p2 has a few roms but i wonder which sub-community is more active and stable.
something to consider as well - i have seen there's replacement batteries available for 25-30€ for p2, however i am still to find a guild/video to see if it's easily replaceable. the only video i have seen is to change screen which looked pretty easy to do - not sure if battery is accessable.
as i said before redmi 4 is a good device it was in my considering as well, but in case there is anything going on with the device you do not have any chance with gearbest.
performance wise, i am not hardcore user... i guess snapdragon 625 is a mixture between good performance and efficient battery. hence hardcore gamers won't get their take on that device, but for everything casual ( even if gaming ) it's good enough. stock rom isn't boated, a few apps may need to be uninstall, everything has been working buttery smooth.
many people already state the camera is bad. for now i have taken like 2-3 shots only as i have way better camera which support wifi and this is not a concern. to send a picture over whatsapp/messenger it's good enough.
several users as read here do not feel the need for custom rom as everything is super good. for myself i am willing to get rooted first, the rom is fine by itself, still want to have backup options though.
i guess in the end it comes up to you. noone will be able to tell you if you, on your usage will get this or that more battery time. number wise if redmi has 4000mah and p2 has 5100 mah you should have approximately 20% more battery lifetime.
i am not sure about the specs. make sure to compare the right device, as there are several subversions of the redmi note 4 ....
mediatek processor? deca core might want to suck some battery compared to the sd625
screen wise it's LCD vs Amoled, since amoled on black /off pixels does not suck battery, who knows p2 has the edge here?
battery wise, there's a test that it charges quite superfast, even if you were run out of battery, within one hour charging you are set for the day...
lastly on the p2 i also like the ultra power savings switch. especially when going to bed you can just flip the switch and turn off all (except signal) ... let's say this is a mute function 2:0.
in the end you could just try out the xiaomi, with the price it comes, you can easily sell it for almost the same after 2-3 weeks... if you loose 20 €... who cares...
I have the p2 and had a rn4 also. Prefer p2. I don't like finger sensors on the back as much better on front plus also having a zuk z2 I love the u touch button and hate on screen ones. Shame on screen buttons can't be fully disabled.
Screen is nicer on p2 and build feels better to me, nicer in the hand. Battery is awesome. I had a Le max 2 up to last week and never got more than 4hrs sot. I sold that to get a one plus 3t but decided to give p2 a try. Performance is not that far behind the Le max 2 with sd 820 in every day use and I was expecting it to be way slower.
I am not a big photographer so this camera seems good to me. Every pic taken looks good.
Don't forget Nfc on p2 too. I use contactless payments all time now and works perfect.
One of best phones I have owned tbh.
Hey guys,
I am finding myself in a difficult position to make my mind on which phone suits me better.
I had the LG G4 for some time now and I found it really amazing. Always moving fast, reliable with GPS direction plus a nice attractive UI. It's main issue though was the battery draining so fast. For the past months my phone was always drained at the end of the day even with minimal usage. I ordered a brand new battery and replaced the current one just to see I can barely see an improvement.
On the other hand, I've been using my brother's Xperia XA1 Ultra in a trip and I was just amazed by this phone battery. It was performing at least 3 times better in terms of battery life and at the end of the day I still had over 40%+ of juice left. However, I had experienced trouble with Google Maps getting the compass to point the right direction I was facing and the back camera didn't really felt like a improvement for me.
Is there indeed an upgrade (hardware related) moving from LG G4 to Xperia XA1 Ultra? Is there something I can do to prolong my LG G4 battery life?
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Is there something I can do to prolong my LG G4 battery life?
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Latest aoscp or LOS with titan kernel will get the most possible battery life out of the g4. The display panel of the g4 is the main reason for draining so much. Replace it with an amoled one and you will get a week.. Lol.
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Moshan said:
Hey guys,
I am finding myself in a difficult position to make my mind on which phone suits me better.
I had the LG G4 for some time now and I found it really amazing. Always moving fast, reliable with GPS direction plus a nice attractive UI. It's main issue though was the battery draining so fast. For the past months my phone was always drained at the end of the day even with minimal usage. I ordered a brand new battery and replaced the current one just to see I can barely see an improvement.
On the other hand, I've been using my brother's Xperia XA1 Ultra in a trip and I was just amazed by this phone battery. It was performing at least 3 times better in terms of battery life and at the end of the day I still had over 40%+ of juice left. However, I had experienced trouble with Google Maps getting the compass to point the right direction I was facing and the back camera didn't really felt like a improvement for me.
Is there indeed an upgrade (hardware related) moving from LG G4 to Xperia XA1 Ultra? Is there something I can do to prolong my LG G4 battery life?
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I have two extended battery packs from power beat and an external battery wall charger so I never use the charging port
Each battery lasts me 27 hours with heavy use
I currently have a Motorola phone with pretty great battery life (thanks to a SD6xx class SOC), but I really like my wife's V20. The display and cameras are awesome and a clear step above mine, but the battery life was kind of meh until we replaced it with a Perfine LiPo that offers about 20% more battery than stock.
I'm interested in the LG G7 because right now they are super cheap on ebay, and have most of the things I love about the V20, but more updated (Pie support, less throttled and laggy SoC). I also really like the way it looks, as the V20 feels too big for my pockets. It seems to tick almost EVERY box I have in an affordable dream handset.
My ONLY concern, however, is the battery.
I currently average over 18 hour off the charger with 5-6 hours of SOT, and never top off. My wife's V20 with the Perfine battery gets around the same and then some (she can actually make it with 15-20% remaining when plugging in for the night, or at least into the next morning with the same usage before needing a charge). I'm reading all the battery experiences around here and thinking, oh man I might hate this.
I don't want to worry about topping off to last the day, or missing notifications because I had to turn on battery saver mode.
I've heard that Pie helped battery for some, and most of the complaints here are dating back to 2018 so it might have gotten better for more recent users with the newer OS. I wish I could replace this with a larger battery like the V20, but sadly LG isn't going that way anymore as we all know. The SD820 in the V20 is little laggy/throttly for me (usually fast and smooth, but sometimes it feels slower than my SD6xx Moto phone under stress), and support for the US variants look like they are grounded at Oreo. So, I don't want to go the same route as my wife's phone.
Feeling conflicted with my options. The G7 seems awesome on paper, will I hate it? Help me out guys!