Why is offline music playback so hard? - Sony Smartwatch 3

So I was loving the look of the SW3, especially when Runkeeper released their beta version. However now I read that offline music is more difficult than it really needs to be?
Why haven't Sony got their own music player on there, surely it makes sense that a lot of people are going to want to use the watch for this?
Do you have to use Google Music or is there an alternative? Seems like everytime I decide this is the time to buy one, something else puts me off.

I use Spotify on the phone and then I control it from the watch. I have also uploaded about 100 song into the watch and tried to play it from watch to Sony SBH-20 bluetooth headphones but the sound is sometimes laggy although the distance between watch and receiver is under 1 meter. I have no another BT receiver except car radio which I was not able to connect (message Device is full - ?)
Has anybody similar issue?

jock23 said:
So I was loving the look of the SW3, especially when Runkeeper released their beta version. However now I read that offline music is more difficult than it really needs to be?
Why haven't Sony got their own music player on there, surely it makes sense that a lot of people are going to want to use the watch for this?
Do you have to use Google Music or is there an alternative? Seems like everytime I decide this is the time to buy one, something else puts me off.
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I was browsing through the online manual of the SW3 and found the following tidbit:
To download a playlist using the Walkman® application
Make sure the battery level of your SmartWatch 3 is 70% or higher.
From the main application screen on your Android™ phone or tablet, find and tap Walkman.
To open the Walkman® home screen menu, find and tap Walkman.
Tap Playlists, then select the playlist that you want to download to your SmartWatch 3.
Drag the slider beside download to wearable in the appropriate direction to turn on the download playlist function. A card indicating the download progress appears on your SmartWatch 3.
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My Walkman application doesn't support this yet, so probably an update of the Walkman application should take care of this.

If you sideload ES File Explorer (using the APK and ADB), you can load music using ADB and play it with the ES File Explorer built in music player, it works surprisingly well.

stamppot said:
My Walkman application doesn't support this yet, so probably an update of the Walkman application should take care of this.
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http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/11/26/walkman-app-update-8-5-a-0-6-brings-android-wear-support/

ranf said:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/11/26/walkman-app-update-8-5-a-0-6-brings-android-wear-support/
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Yeah, got it running here already as well. Seems to work as advertised.

Walkman update available to support android wear!!

Video instruction on how to use Walkman app with wear
http://youtu.be/joPFiwuJkF4

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[Q] Help with lyrics of the stock music player

I've bought M8 a week ago. I've come from a Symbian belle device, where if I put a .lrc file with same name as the song, it'd show the lyrics while playing songs. Now in M8 I've found there is a lyric downloading settings but I can't seem to see any lyrics on stock Music player. Can anyone help?
Saikat.mondol1 said:
I've bought M8 a week ago. I've come from a Symbian belle device, where if I put a .lrc file with same name as the song, it'd show the lyrics while playing songs. Now in M8 I've found there is a lyric downloading settings but I can't seem to see any lyrics on stock Music player. Can anyone help?
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In order to view the lyrics you need to go to the visualizer for which you will have to swipe to the right from the music screen
AshritShetty said:
In order to view the lyrics you need to go to the visualizer for which you will have to swipe to the right from the music screen
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.lrc format works?
Saikat.mondol1 said:
.lrc format works?
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The inbuilt Grace Note lyrics search engine fetches the lyrics automatically. I don't think there is an option to choose your own lyrics
AshritShetty said:
The inbuilt Grace Note lyrics search engine fetches the lyrics automatically. I don't think there is an option to choose your own lyrics
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But I've not been able to see a single lyric till now. Doesn't they have lyrics for either Eminem Rap God or The Monster ?
Saikat.mondol1 said:
But I've not been able to see a single lyric till now. Doesn't they have lyrics for either Eminem Rap God or The Monster ?
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In the Visualizer screen press the 3 Dot Button and then Update Lyrics
Grace Note will now download the lyrics.
AshritShetty said:
In the Visualizer screen press the 3 Dot Button and then Update Lyrics
Grace Note will now download the lyrics.
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Hey,
I tried this on multiple tracks and it doesn't seem to work. I thought I might fix the issue by modifying the .mp3 files and manually setting the correct album, artist, track number etc., but it still doesn't work. Whenever I try updating the lyrics I get the following notification:
Lyrics from LyricFind
Total 1 lyric(s) checked. 0 lyric(s) updated.
Any thoughts on how I could force it to find the correct lyrics? And it's not like I am trying with an obscure artist, it's Led Zeppelin IV for Christ's sake.
I remember this from my One X days. It's a location issue. You have to trick Gracenote to think that you are in the US through a VPN software and then it will work with no problem.
1) Download and install Hotspot Shield Free from play store
2) Run Hotspot Shield and make sure that Virtual Location is: United States.
3) Play a song and you will see lyrics appearing.
4) Un-install Hotspot Shield
5) Play another song and voila, you always have lyrics
stathis95194 said:
I remember this from my One X days. It's a location issue. You have to trick Gracenote to think that you are in the US through a VPN software and then it will work with no problem.
1) Download and install Hotspot Shield Free from play store
2) Run Hotspot Shield and make sure that Virtual Location is: United States.
3) Play a song and you will see lyrics appearing.
4) Un-install Hotspot Shield
5) Play another song and voila, you always have lyrics
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Thanks a lot for the tip, mate, but unfortunately it doesn't work for me. The Wi-Fi at work, which I used to download most of the lyrics the phone did manage to recognize, assigns US-based IP addresses, so I should have had no issues to begin with. I went ahead and tried the fix with Hotspot Shield anyways, but to no avail.
What's even more interesting is that it has downloaded lyrics for individual songs within an album. Why it would recognize one track, but wouldn't the very next one from the same album is beyond me.
stathis95194 said:
I remember this from my One X days. It's a location issue. You have to trick Gracenote to think that you are in the US through a VPN software and then it will work with no problem.
1) Download and install Hotspot Shield Free from play store
2) Run Hotspot Shield and make sure that Virtual Location is: United States.
3) Play a song and you will see lyrics appearing.
4) Un-install Hotspot Shield
5) Play another song and voila, you always have lyrics
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Wow, I love you (lol). I don't used Hotspot Shield, I used TunnelBear, but it works like a charm!!

[APP] Poweramp Remote 4 Android Wear

Hello.
Just want to share some very good news - there's ain Play Store called "Poweramp Remote 4 Android Wear", and it works with Moto 360 like a charm. The app is paid, but it finally allows to use Moto 360 to control music as fully as Sony's SmartWatch 2 used to do.
WBR, Draco
first off, FINALLY THANK YOU.
second: few small things to make it perfect:
1. folder list
2. metadata is sometimes off, mostly pictures but sometimes I'll go to an artist and not see a song I know I have...if I find the another way the artist will show as same.
3. browsing on general should mirror poweramp...one of the reasons I will never switch away from poweramp is the way you can browse for a song: folders and artist then album.
there's one more annoyance that no one do anything about though and that's the ever present default notification that comes first when you play music . Once you can get this stuff working this will be as good as the app in SW2...really missed that app
Hi.
I'm not the developer of this app, I've just posted here about it You can contact developer via Play Store. As for the default music notification, it drives me mad also, but apparently there's nothing to be done yet - Android Wear is sort of a parody on the real Android...
WBR, Draco.
I looked at it but have been a supporter of the MusicBoss for Wear app. It can control pretty much any app that controls volume and the dev is responsive to fixes! I have been following the dev since the Kickstarter Pebble. So he is a user as well.
kpjimmy said:
I looked at it but have been a supporter of the MusicBoss for Wear app.
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There is a beta community too.
https://plus.google.com/communities/113365844369548639968
brotbuexe said:
There is a beta community too.
https://plus.google.com/communities/113365844369548639968
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Already there
I have also Music Boss (and on my pebble) but very huge difference, with Music Boss we can not browse Album, Artist, Title, and not setup for equalizer.
For Wear I use Stellio found before the Power Amp app (I have also Power Amp on my phone).
dersie said:
I have also Music Boss (and on my pebble) but very huge difference, with Music Boss we can not browse Album, Artist, Title, and not setup for equalizer.
For Wear I use Stellio found before the Power Amp app (I have also Power Amp on my phone).
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True, but I like to actually see what I am doing there on the phone, which is better to view the settings IMO. I have tried Stellio as well and is ok, but I gravitate back to MB for just playback and volume controls.

Q: Way to transfer mp3 files not downloaded via Google Play Music?

Hi all,
I didn't see this posted, and I don't think this is currently possible (at least no application to do it yet, seems like with root we could do anything right??) but is there a way to transfer mp3 files to the watch? I don't use Google Play Music for anything and have all my mp3s on my computer and phone. This doesn't allow them to transfer through Play Music.
Any methods on how to put mp3s on the watch to enable listening via bluetooth headphones directly to the watch?
Thanks!
Use Sony's Walkman app. You should find a download link on xperiablog.net
ranf said:
Use Sony's Walkman app. You should find a download link on xperiablog.net
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Thanks dude!
So how does one actually transfer the files on there? Messing with the Walkman app ti seems to be just a music player. What I am hoping to do, however, is transfer mp3s onto the watch itself and play from it directly.. (such as not needing my phone when running).
Create new playlist. This can then be synced to a Wear device (over BT).
Awesome! Thank you! Working good from my note 4!

Playing music issue?

Hey guys, i posted this question in Help & Troubleshooting as well, but figured there is more traffic here, so ere it goes again.
Does anyone know as to why would youtube open (and show an error) on my phone, when i hit play music on zenwatch?
Youtube is not my default app, i checked.
Thanks in advance.
Make sure that in the Android Wear app the default app for playing music is the the player you want to use.
hecksagon said:
Make sure that in the Android Wear app the default app for playing music is the the player you want to use.
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The only option i have is "open on phone".
superhq said:
The only option i have is "open on phone".
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Only certain music player apps have Android Wear extensions. You can try using Music Boss for Wear from the market. That will allow you watch to issue headset remote commands to any music app on Android. I used to have it for Pebble and it may be worth the few dollars if you don't want to use a Wear compatible music app.
hecksagon said:
Only certain music player apps have Android Wear extensions. You can try using Music Boss for Wear from the market. That will allow you watch to issue headset remote commands to any music app on Android. I used to have it for Pebble and it may be worth the few dollars if you don't want to use a Wear compatible music app.
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OK thanks, will give it a try.

[Q] Supported audio files.

I couldn't find anything posted already, and just wanted to know if there is a list of supported files types with the Moto 360. All my music is in lossless format at the moment and wanted to see what format I would need for syncing to the device itself. I have scoured google several times for an answer, but have ever found one myself. Anyone know anything about this?
Thanks =)
Its based on gMusic so presumably the support should be the same.
There is no music or video stored on the watch it is used as a remote to whatever audio or video player that you use on your phone
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rurigokou said:
There is no music or video stored on the watch it is used as a remote to whatever audio or video player that you use on your phone
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Wrong, any music you download on the Google Play Music app on the phone can be uploaded to the Watch. (tick the "Download to Android Wear" in the Google Play Music settings)
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contraryrhombus said:
I couldn't find anything posted already, and just wanted to know if there is a list of supported files types with the Moto 360. All my music is in lossless format at the moment and wanted to see what format I would need for syncing to the device itself. I have scoured google several times for an answer, but have ever found one myself. Anyone know anything about this?
Thanks =)
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Right here is your answer
https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/1100462?hl=en
Stands corrected
I did not know that bit of information since i quit using google play music app years ago and keep it disabled; here is some good articles on it http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/24/how-to-store-music-on-android-wear-for-offline-playback/ http://www.androidcentral.com/play-music-android-wear-how-use-it-and-what-it-still-needs but it has limitations; storage on watch 4GB, that is for all apps and music you will run out fast, play music makes it is extremely clunky to pick individual songs (see the android central article) , but my biggest concern would be battery life, (that streaming Bluetooth connection to you headset will eat the battery alive.) .
rurigokou said:
I did not know that bit of information since i quit using google play music app years ago and keep it disabled; here is some good articles on it http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/24/how-to-store-music-on-android-wear-for-offline-playback/ http://www.androidcentral.com/play-music-android-wear-how-use-it-and-what-it-still-needs but it has limitations; storage on watch 4GB, that is for all apps and music you will run out fast, play music makes it is extremely clunky to pick individual songs (see the android central article) , but my biggest concern would be battery life, (that streaming Bluetooth connection to you headset will eat the battery alive.) .
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True on all counts, I'm going to try it while working out to see how much it kills the watch.
baldbear said:
True on all counts, I'm going to try it while working out to see how much it kills the watch.
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sweet, will be interested to hear about this
Probably easiest just to create a Moto360 playlist and sync that one.

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