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Hi all fellow forum members! It was about time to retire my old Galaxy S2, and i decided to buy a S4 Mini. About the same size, better specs and everything. But i dont like the battery life at all. I dont think its normal for my battery to discharge 20% over 8 hours at night. Does anyone have the same problem? I have been trying different approaches. I installed Snapdragon BatteryGuru, put the phone on power saving mode all the time, even switched 3G off, although without 3G there seems to be an improvement, but I'll let you know how's that going. So my concern is that i might have a faulty device.. or software.. idk.. when i had crazy discharge syndrome on my S2 i just changed the kernel and/or the ROM. Any advice or opinions on the battery life of the S4 mini will be welcomed and appreciated!
I don't have too many battery problems, I guess. My phone has been off the charger for around 10 hours - and the battery has dropped to 85% - which I think it OK. I've sent some text messages, checked e-mails, used WhatsApp and had a few phone calls, not exceeding 10 minutes in total. Oh, and the GPS is on 24/7 for now, but I've just got the phone rooted, so this will not be the case any longer. The phone says it still have some 7½ hours left - which wouldn't be enough for an "all nighter" tonight.
I have disables many of the push notifications, which might be the reason why I think it's a fair battery life so far. I used to have the SGS2 as well, which lasted around the same as this phone I reckon. The biggest hog is the Google Services/Framework that takaroundes up 25% of the battery usage at the moment.
I have though of having getting an extra battery for this phone, as it's always nice to have one charged.
My I9195 uses about 3% during night (7 hours, 3G data and wifi off). Try to use an app to see wakelocks used on your device, e.g. Wakelock Detector or Better Battery Stats - they might provide you with some hints to apps that keep your mini from deep sleep, which can cause the battery drain.
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If it's an I9195, can you try to disable NFC and see if it improves?
My biggest drain is the screen. The device lasts about as long as my friend's S2 (we were playing a coop game together) and then surfed the net over 3G for a while.
We both scrambled to look for a nearby charging socket at almost the same time
Thanks for your replies guys! I will try those apps and report back. Wakelock already found one of my apps that has awaken the phone 1200 times.. shieeeeeeeet.. hopefully now that I have disabled it things will go better..
Hi all! I have found the source of my battery drain. It's Google location services. Turns out it's a common problem on android 4.2.2. I tutned off Google location an I my phone drained 2% over 8 hours. Sync, wifi and 3g were also turned on. There is a fix over at the nexus 4 forums, but it requires root and I don't know if it will work on our galaxies. If you have root, google nip wakelock fix, try it and report back.
I had battery problems on my s4. Turns out it was the SD card. Removed it and battery improved. In the end I had to change it for a new one.
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I had battery problems on my s4. Turns out it was the SD card. Removed it and battery improved. In the end I had to change it for a new one.
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Which one did you use? Sandisk 32GB?
I got an S4 mini for my gf with that card and it has terrible battery life.
The battery drained from 100% at 7 in the morning to 15% at 5 in the afternoon...
That's surely not normal...
Edit:
I noticed that the "media" service took up almost as much cpu time and power as (active for 1,5 hours) as the mobile connection.
I suspect, that some corrupt media files or whatever kept the service alive, which tried to scan the DCIM folder over and over again.
I checked the SD Card which was full of almost 5GB of old pictures pictures which for some reason couldn't be deleted because of "unknown errors".
So I took the SD Card out and put it in a card reader, to back up the files. Then I deleted the files, put the card back and formated the card.
Then I copied only some of the new pictures back into the DCIM folder... I'll see tomorrow if that helped.
Battery Drain
Hi iconata,
Can you let me know how to "disable" Google location services, which you observed as the source of battery drain? I believe I have disabled it but the battery drain issue still persists.
And FYI - the following is the message I wrote to Samsung and am waiting for their test to validate the result of my S4 Mini. Based on what Samsung told me, the Safe Mode calls out same phone settings as Factory Default, but it seems the following test cases did reveal different resutls from what Samsung told me...
Message to Samsung
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Hi,
Thanks for advising to check battery under Safe Mode. The following is the 3 test cases I have done but I still have BIG battery drain issue with my S4 Mini.
All the test cases were performed under same conditions:
1. 3G on
2. Power Save Mode on
3. Standby for 8 hours overnight, from 12:00am ~ 8:00am
Test Case-1: All the extra apps installed
- Battery drain: 3% per hour (as I already reported)
Test Case-2: Safe Mode; long press volume-down key, with Safe Mode shown at lower-left corner on desktop
- Battery drain: 0.7% per hour
Test Case-3: Factory default settings; reset to Factory Default setting; all the data were deleted and no extra apps were installed; the phone was back to the original Factory default setting
- Battery drain: 2.9% per hour
Test Case-1 and Test Case-3 almost came with same battery drain issue at same drop rate, so those extra apps installed for Test Case-1 shouldn’t have contributed to this battery drain issue so significantly. However, looks like Safe Mode and Factory Default were very different, although you thought the conditions of the 2 should be same.
I still have battery drain issue even after rolling back to Factory Default Settings, and I cannot live with Safe Mode. Please help.
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pudin said:
Hi iconata,
Can you let me know how to "disable" Google location services, which you observed as the source of battery drain? I believe I have disabled it but the battery drain issue still persists.
And FYI - the following is the message I wrote to Samsung and am waiting for their test to validate the result of my S4 Mini. Based on what Samsung told me, the Safe Mode calls out same phone settings as Factory Default, but it seems the following test cases did reveal different resutls from what Samsung told me...
Message to Samsung
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Hi,
Thanks for advising to check battery under Safe Mode. The following is the 3 test cases I have done but I still have BIG battery drain issue with my S4 Mini.
All the test cases were performed under same conditions:
1. 3G on
2. Power Save Mode on
3. Standby for 8 hours overnight, from 12:00am ~ 8:00am
Test Case-1: All the extra apps installed
- Battery drain: 3% per hour (as I already reported)
Test Case-2: Safe Mode; long press volume-down key, with Safe Mode shown at lower-left corner on desktop
- Battery drain: 0.7% per hour
Test Case-3: Factory default settings; reset to Factory Default setting; all the data were deleted and no extra apps were installed; the phone was back to the original Factory default setting
- Battery drain: 2.9% per hour
Test Case-1 and Test Case-3 almost came with same battery drain issue at same drop rate, so those extra apps installed for Test Case-1 shouldn’t have contributed to this battery drain issue so significantly. However, looks like Safe Mode and Factory Default were very different, although you thought the conditions of the 2 should be same.
I still have battery drain issue even after rolling back to Factory Default Settings, and I cannot live with Safe Mode. Please help.
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Hi pudin! You can turn off Google location services from maps app. Go to settings->google location settings and uncheck allow Google to use your location. And to further improve that you can turn gps off, and turn it on when you need to. Yesterday I decided to root my phone because greenify was asking for root permission and everybody was putting the good word for that app. Turns out it's a total croc... you can hibernate downloaded apps, but you can't do the same with pre installed. 0 use. Further more I started to receive an annoying notification that my phone's security has been compromised and it needs to reboot. Got angry, downloaded an official firmware from sammobile, preinstalled, turned google location services off and got this pretty decent battery life. Screenies are below, feel free to post your thoughts. Please note that I keep BaterryGuru and PowerSave on at all time.
Battery drain
Thanks for prompt feedback iconata! Now I can confirm the Google location services have been disabled on my S4 Mini. Also, I don't enable GPS unless I need it so those battery consumption numbers were tested without GPS running in the background. I got the call from Ssmaung tonight telling me my phone consumes more power than what they tested, so I'll return it to Samsung for further diagnostic tomorrow. Will keep you posted if any update.
BTW, I'm not that kind of guy brave enough to root my phone like you guys...
im having 3% battery drain over night
using 2 sims.
wifi off
gps off
powersaving off
Network mode: sim1 GSM/WCDMA (auto), sim2 GSM
here are the screens
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ccsi16236v0i7vj/nHkaaH3cLz/Battery Drain S4 mini
ill repeat the test today from 100% battery and see
battery drain during standby
Hi,
Checked the image you posted and it looks like you were still doing something such as making calls and playing game over night. Your 3% power consumption per hour is similar to mine, but in my case Cell Standby and Device Idle are the 2 major items consuming the power the most over night, when the phone really enters the standby mode. Try to have your phone enter the standby mode without doing anything over night and check if the result is still the same.
strange thing... my battery was showing 16% left.. and went dead..
pudin said:
Hi,
Checked the image you posted and it looks like you were still doing something such as making calls and playing game over night. Your 3% power consumption per hour is similar to mine, but in my case Cell Standby and Device Idle are the 2 major items consuming the power the most over night, when the phone really enters the standby mode. Try to have your phone enter the standby mode without doing anything over night and check if the result is still the same.
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that screen on over night wasn't me, today ill remove apps and try to get a clean start not from a day use
New FW update that improves battery drain
In coincidence I got notified of a FW update just yesterday night, one day before I sent my phone into Service, and it did improve battery drain significantly, from 3% to just 1% per hour over night after I checked the phone this morning. You guys may want to check the update as well, and I'll test my phone again tonight.
pudin said:
In coincidence I got notified of a FW update just yesterday night, one day before I sent my phone into Service, and it did improve battery drain significantly, from 3% to just 1% per hour over night after I checked the phone this morning. You guys may want to check the update as well, and I'll test my phone again tonight.
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Which firmware?
I flashed the pre-rooted MG4 (over the stock MG4) yesterday, wiped the phone and froze all the samsung bloatware stuff.
That thing is still draining about 4-6% per hour while just lying around untouched. The phone is in power saving mode.
new test factory reset, all bloatware removed, just whatsapp is installed
screens
http://db.tt/nZFb2QKa
I still have 1.7% battery drain per hour I think is still bad
GMS arena seems to be the only site mentioning that issue:
Unfortunately the higher than average battery drain in stand-by mode prevented the Samsung Galaxy S4 mini from getting an impressive overall endurance rating. Even so it did more than well and if Samsung improves the stand-by time with future firmware updates, it might be one of the longest-lasting smartphones on the market.
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http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-mini-battery-test-is-over-check-out-the-scores/
My HTC One M8 dies in just about 12h-15h with screen on time of 3h-4h. It is connected to Wi-Fi network 90% of the time and I don't use a cellular data connection. Auto-Sync is on. Screen brightness is either 25% or 50% in direct sunlight. I am on stock 4.4.4 Rom software number 3.28.401.9
I haven't came across any other M8s so I don't know if the issue is just with my phone. But one of my roommate has an Xperia Z1 and a friend has SGS4 both get around 30h of battery life with moderate to high use. The standby time is not so good because I lose about 15%-25% battery in about 3h-4h everyday when I wake up in the morning. I've tried factory resetting my phone thrice but to no avail. I've installed GSAM and included the screenshots. I want to know if its normal and if not what can I do? Would re-flashing the firmware help?
Take a look in gsam > number of times being held awake or something. I think you have a process or app that is causing the issue. You can try resetting the device and install your apps back one by one to see which app is causing the issue.
Yup, you need to be rooted and have Gsam root companion installed. Then you can post times waking device and held awake time. That's where your issue is. Without root... It will be extremely hard to help. Could be anything. You have near 8 hours of awake time. That's really bad.
Ever since updating to new Android 5.1.1 I'm having sudden battery drains while on stand by it will often start to warm up and I'll would see a drop in 20% battery in like 5 - 10 mins. And reboot fixes this. But this has been happening for a few days. Its not the WiFi as I have toggled the WiFi off the watch and locations are also off. I have done am factory reset a few times but no use. Any ideas? Or is it possible to reflash the update similar how you can do on android devices via adb?
POSSIBLE FIXES/ SOLUTIONS
I have summarised possible fixes and solutions to the battery drain
1. Uninstall Battery stats app
2. Re install android wear using Sony PC Companion (this worked for me)
3. Disable Google fit (credit to @maniusng)
4. Install previous version of android wear companion app
5. Fix by @Bender_0
Bender_0 said:
My fix:
I think I stopped battery drains, but not discussed in the XDA option.
Settings> Wi-Fi Settings> Wi-Fi Disable
And then in Wi-Fi settings> Advanced> Energy Saving 15 minutes.
See if you solved this to you.
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EDIT: POSSIBLE ROOT OF PROBLEM
after doing loads of testing i think i may have found the cause. its the WiFi and its drivers because i have noticed that when my phone gets disconnected and then reconnected later on, during the battery cycle i will have a drain. and if i dont allow my watch to loose connection with my phone and then i would not experience battery drain during that battery cycle.
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Try turn off Cloud sync on Android wear app on the phone if you didn't do that. Maybe this is the problem.
Mine has been draining too, cloud on or off
I had this too. The last 20% drained very quick during night in a way it never did before
Had similar issues this weekend. Even tried to use it during a half marathon run and the battery died on me during the race. Even the day before the watch just died on me after maybe 4-5 hours.
Haven't tried disabling cloud sync yet, but have turned off Location and Wifi for now. I also uninstalled a few apps I really wasn't using just in case in the background they were draining battery (even if the battery usage monitor wasn't listing specific apps.) The other thing I did was change back to a stock watch face in case the one I was using was draining battery (it was Minimal and Elegant.) Drain has slowed down, so I need to keep playing around with settings.
My guess is it's tied to apps that weren't ready for the 5.1.1 update, so we'll see if I can determine what I was using that started the drain.
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Mine has been draining too, cloud on or off
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yes checked its off in my phone as well
there is a similar thread of a user seeing what is causing the battery drain and he found out that it is "wear battery stats" as it kept waking the watch. i have unistalled this app and the watch battery seems to be ok. after another battery cycle ill let you know what happens
After receiving the update and it killing my battery from 100% to dead in 6 hrs I charged the battery over night took it off charge at 11 am yesterday and at 4 today I'm at 3 % which is 29 hrs with sync and wi-fi on and I'm using Wear battery stats.The funny thing is my battery before the update would not last even close to what I just got.
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After receiving the update and it killing my battery from 100% to dead in 6 hrs I charged the battery over night took it off charge at 11 am yesterday and at 4 today I'm at 3 % which is 29 hrs with sync and wi-fi on and I'm using Wear battery stats.The funny thing is my battery before the update would not last even close to what I just got.
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Are you using wake screen by wrist movement? It could be a bug in the accelerometer
Yes I do.My battery died around 6:30 I'm going to charge it and see what happens.
Same problem here...
Wake screen off.
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Same problem here...
Wake screen off.
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Have tried the below all while Never having the phone and watch apart more than 2-3 meters:
Wifi off , cloudsync on
Wifi off cloudsync off
wifi off, clousdync off, gestures off
wifi off, clousdync off, gestures off, GPS off
wifi off, clousdync off, gestures off, GPS off + Factory reset (twice)
wifi off, clousdync off, gestures off, GPS off + Factory reset (twice), Cinema Mode
The problem still keeps coming back.
As far as i can tell nothing i do is triggering it.
My next thing to try is to uninstall anything that i can that has a wear app in it, though that's going to be very annoying.
I think most off problems are related to Cloud sync and turning it off will be good for battery. But there is something alse that is draining battery. I had problem with some watchfaces and had to uninstall them day after updating Android wear to 5.1.1. They were killing my watch. Now I am still looking what is draining battery. I'll post my results when I am finished.
Has somebody Google Fit installed and no battery life problems?
I think it could be due to the fact that I have greenifyed the watch faces and watch apps on my phone. I de greenifyed them and I'm gonna check out the battery and keep it updated.
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Has somebody Google Fit installed and no battery life problems?
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Ok weird.
Uninstall Google fit, battery life is better but I'm still getting Google fit notifications.
It looks like there is a version that ships with the watch by default.... Maybe that's the issue..?
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I see no difference but use it like I always have no WiFi
Same here.. I have wear battery stats installed on my computer and I've seen sharp spikes with the battery, up to a 20% drain, that's from 2.33% to 3%. I've done the following with the same issue happening:
1. Went into recovery to clear cache
2. Factory Reset from Watch
3. Removed Wear Mini Launcher
4. Removed all additional watch faces
At first it seemed like it was back to normal.. but then I would get another sharp spike... and at times when powered back up from being dead it would act like the cache was cleared and would start the updating applications before the watch would fully start up. So I went ahead (out of anger) and did the following:
1. Removed all unnecessary applications (Stay Lit Wear was one of them.. possible suspect)
2. Reimaged with Sony PC Compainion 2 (Watch was initially upgraded through ADB)
3. Setup the Watch.
4. Uninstalled updates to Google Play Services on my Phone and reinstalled them back on the phone (thus disconnecting the watch... forcing me to.... )
5. Factory Reset the Watch again.
6. Now that I'm back up and running it seems that my battery is lasting a lot longer... at a drain rate of 1.88%.
Crossing my fingers something in there fixed my issue, and possibly helps someone else.
even after uninstalling wear battery stats, still getting sudden battery drains on idle ambient mode in 10 mins there was a drop of over 20% and it still warms up a lot. I am going to reflash using Sony pc companion.
I hope you guy with battery problem figure it out.Mine is the best It's ever been.
Hello guys, im new to xda and this is my first thread so go easy on me,
I Have G4 H815 international version, upgraded from lollypop to mm as soon as lg rolled it out. Few months have passed with exellent battery, no problems at all. And then suddenly a month ago battery drain have started siriusly to impact on battery life, im talking about 1 hour screen on time, over night 20% standby drain while asleep ~7h. This is what i have tried:
-Bought a new battery - same drain
-Factory reset - nothing chaneged.
Note:
~30% Android system
~25% Google Play services
~12% Android OS
And then was Screen
So 2 weeks after, i have tried to delete updates of Google play services (version 8.4.89(2428711-440)) and disable.
Things got worse.
Battery barely charged, and done another factory reset, only installed WhatsApp and Viber, after which battery got about 15% better.
Note:
screen 29%
google play services 12%
Viber 10%
Android System 9%
Cell standby 9%
Android OS 5%
Disabled everything in hidden menu, but nothing still.
If anyone have any suggestions or thoughts feel free answer.
In advance thanks, im sorry for bad grammar, not my mother language and screenshots still dont know how to upload
Do you have GPS, nfc, auto-sync or mobile data always on?
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Gps, nfc are always turned off, thogh sync and data are always on as needed. On Gsam was showing GPS was on the whole time even if i turned them off in settings.
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Do you have GPS, nfc, auto-sync or mobile data always on?
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Gps, nfc are always turned off, thogh sync and data are always on as needed. On Gsam was showing GPS was on the whole time even if i turned them off in settings.
Niblisa said:
Gps, nfc are always turned off, thogh sync and data are always on as needed. On Gsam was showing GPS was on the whole time even if i turned them off in settings.
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If you keep data and sync turned on during the night that must be the source of your battery drain. Those things are the biggest battery suckers. If you changed your carier that could also been the reason for the anormal battery drain because the signal reception could be worse than the one from your previous caries thus sucking more battery. I mean, if the signal is weak you end up losing more battery. If you keep data on while traveling on public transports that also sucks a lot of battery because the signal is constantly changing between 4g and 3g and that sucks balls.
Anyway, you have here several reasons. I don't exactly know the details of your battery history so you should consider my points and see if any fit your problem
Hi, I recently got my S9 but however lately I've been getting idle drain. With mobile data off, I lose about 2% every 2 hours and with mobile data on, I lose 4% every 2 hours. I have GSam installed and used ADB to give it permission for battery stats. Below are screenshots
http://imgur.com/gallery/5c4Q4j4
It seems to be from IMS service. I read that it can be from either WiFi calling or volte. I do not want to turn off either. Had anyone else experienced this? I still have good battery but this idle drain isn't normal. I haven't left my phone overnight so I guess I might try that tonight and see how much it drains
Hi there,
I am re-opening this old thread since I am facing the exact same behaviour with my new S10+. Due to IMS wakelocks, my battery drains 30-40% overnight (while I'm sleeping for 7 hours). If I put my phone in flight mode, it loses 1% overnight. Did you manage to find a solution afterall? I really hate having to put my phone in flight mode every night. Thanks in advance :highfive:
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Hi there,
I am re-opening this old thread since I am facing the exact same behaviour with my new S10+. Due to IMS wakelocks, my battery drains 30-40% overnight (while I'm sleeping for 7 hours). If I put my phone in flight mode, it loses 1% overnight. Did you manage to find a solution afterall? I really hate having to put my phone in flight mode every night. Thanks in advance :highfive:
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Did you ever find a solution to this? Experiencing same problem now ...
Hi ... did any of the posters above find a solution to this issue ?
I am stuck at exactly the same problem: The phone (S9, stock-rom) drains approx 20% over night, doing nothing. Reason (according to GSam Battery Monitor) is the high power consumption of Apps > Android-System > 48 mins (264 count) wakelocks caused by ImsService.
If you look at the picture of batter usage in Gsam you clearly see, the phone stays active all night and barely sleeps/dozes :-(
What I already tried, without any effects:
- clearing cache of all "IMS*" Services in App Manager
- wiping cache partition
- disabling AOD (Always On Display) and VoLTE Telephony
- removing and re-adding google account
I am a little clueless and would like to avoid a factory reset as especially all those nasty "push-tan applications" will most likely need a re-authorization :-(
I'd heavily appreciate any hint.
After a long journey it seems that I found a solution: At least on Android 10 there seems to be a bug in google location services. If you disabled location history, the API requests are still made but get stuck each time (every 60 sec.) and keep the phone awake instead of returning to sleep.
The "bitter" solution was to turn on Google Location history again ... and suddenly the drain ends, as the detection and transmission of the location is ways faster, than letting the die in a timeout ...