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The TP2 has been out long enough that I think we can get a pretty good idea of it's video, graphical, and system performance. For those who have had one, what are your thoughts?
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The battery life is terrible even with everything running at a minimal so hopefully hard spl and a new rom will sort it out.
Mine wont last more than 8 hour with data connection and push mail
can anyone say what the 3.2 mp camera's picture quality is like? any sample shots?
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Mine wont last more than 8 hour with data connection and push mail
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Wow, you sure you don't have a faulty device or battery? Or perhaps it's something you installed? 8 hrs is not normal.
I have push mail on during the day, push internet checking every 3 hrs, and I use the web browser quite heavily and I always end up with about 30-40% charge at the end of the day.
shunsai said:
can anyone say what the 3.2 mp camera's picture quality is like? any sample shots?
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Not very good, but certainly not bad. There are sample shots in many reviews of the device. Just check those out.
The overall concensus appears to be that it'll not replace your digital camera. Use it for casual shots and for using World Card Mobile. If you're expecting more, than you will be dissapointed.
my performance
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Wow, you sure you don't have a faulty device or battery? Or perhaps it's something you installed? 8 hrs is not normal.
I have push mail on during the day, push internet checking every 3 hrs, and I use the web browser quite heavily and I always end up with about 30-40% charge at the end of the day.
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8 hours is normal for most of my WM devices, TP2 actually give me an hour more (9 hours) if you need more juice, consider an extended batttery like i do, it last me for more than 15 hours.
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8 hours is normal for most of my WM devices, TP2 actually give me an hour more (9 hours) if you need more juice, consider an extended batttery like i do, it last me for more than 15 hours.
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I really can't understand what you are doing with your phones.
I charged the phone over night and connected it to WiFi and am playing MP3 music since 6:00 in the morning with the display on. Every 30minutes my 3 EMail accounts are being checked. Additionally, I have written and received about 40 SMS today and made 3 phone calls.
Now it's 13:30, so it's running for 7,5hours under this conditions yet, and the battery is at 57%.
I can't imagine a way to drain the battery even faster, except GPS. No matter what I am doing, the battery at least lasts for a day.
Considering the fact that I am not playing MP3 the whole day normally, I get 3 days out of my battery in general -the same as with the SonyEricsson Xperia I had before.
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I really can't understand what you are doing with your phones.
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I get 3 days out of my battery in general -the same as with the SonyEricsson Xperia I had before.
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I second that. I have regular mail checks, browser use and calls on my phone and i see 3 days of battery life all the time with some exceptions in one or the other direction. The only thing which wastes battery like hell is tethering which will drain a charge in about 6 to 8 hours depending on the traffic.
My TP2 can last 1,5 to 2 days with average use... but only with Edge, because as soon as I activate 3g it berely last 6 to 8 hours... 3g and GPS are the two things that drains the battery faster. That is my experience...
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my performance
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I currently have the Universal. It seems that the TP2 is slower. Particularly with video. I watch videos while flying. Am I going to be disappointed with this phone compared to my universal?
skycamefalling said:
I really can't understand what you are doing with your phones.
I charged the phone over night and connected it to WiFi and am playing MP3 music since 6:00 in the morning with the display on. Every 30minutes my 3 EMail accounts are being checked. Additionally, I have written and received about 40 SMS today and made 3 phone calls.
Now it's 13:30, so it's running for 7,5hours under this conditions yet, and the battery is at 57%.
I can't imagine a way to drain the battery even faster, except GPS. No matter what I am doing, the battery at least lasts for a day.
Considering the fact that I am not playing MP3 the whole day normally, I get 3 days out of my battery in general -the same as with the SonyEricsson Xperia I had before.
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Well, I'm connected 24/7 via gprs ad push mail on (exchange, with "as items arrive" setting), 2 other yahoo accounts with SEVEN, palringo.
100+ mails a day
40-60 messages
and bad gprs connection
and most of the time I feel the phone warm even in standby mode
I don't think this is a defect. since my tytn II wont last for more than 8 hours too. but when i gave it to my wife, the battery last for 2 DAYS!!!.. (she doesn't use push email or palringo, just facebook sometimes).
maybe I should turn the data off for 1 or 2 days someday and observe the battery usage..
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The battery life is terrible even with everything running at a minimal so hopefully hard spl and a new rom will sort it out.
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Battery life is excellent for me. I have activated "energy saving" from "diamond Tweak software).
Even GPS with voice (GARMIN XT), it lasts 3 hours on battery.
Corrupto said:
My TP2 can last 1,5 to 2 days with average use... but only with Edge, because as soon as I activate 3g it berely last 6 to 8 hours... 3g and GPS are the two things that drains the battery faster. That is my experience...
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Hi,
How can you activate edge only?
Thanks for all the input guys. However, the original purpose of this thread was more for how responsive (sluggish) the phone was. Is menu transition and program start up snappy? Are there any delays throughout the phone or has that been ironed out? I've got a mogul and even with custom roms from XDA it's still very sluggish. Always has been.
It is HTC's graphical drivers. There are a few XDA born ones which help but they are no substitute for a proper HTC issued one.
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I really can't understand what you are doing with your phones.
I charged the phone over night and connected it to WiFi and am playing MP3 music since 6:00 in the morning with the display on. Every 30minutes my 3 EMail accounts are being checked. Additionally, I have written and received about 40 SMS today and made 3 phone calls.
Now it's 13:30, so it's running for 7,5hours under this conditions yet, and the battery is at 57%.
I can't imagine a way to drain the battery even faster, except GPS. No matter what I am doing, the battery at least lasts for a day.
Considering the fact that I am not playing MP3 the whole day normally, I get 3 days out of my battery in general -the same as with the SonyEricsson Xperia I had before.
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I guess you aren't a heavy user. Me and one of my collegues can empty the battery in about 5hrs...
That's with bluetooth on, HSDAP connection, 10min checkup on exchange server (with about 20-30emails and calendar changes in those 5 hrs) and about 1-2 hrs calling.
The phone gets a bit warm, but that would be understandable I guess...
My experience with the battery life is that it's pretty good. Better then with my old HTC Vox.
It checks my gmail and hotmail every 15min. When at work i don't really use my phone. With some spare time it gets to the end of the day easily with some music playing in the morning (when going to work) and some in the evening (when going home). And allot of browsing in between.
Overall, for the performance and big screen you get. The battery life seems really good to me. When i got my phone i discharged it to ~10% and then let it charge 24 hours. After that i started using my phone till ~10% battery charge again and charged it till it was full.
Maybe this method helped a bit in the battery life? I currently have my TP2 for 5 days, so i'm still playing aroudn with it allot. But with normal use i could get 2 days easily with my usage.
Grtz,
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So how does this perform with Diamond Hologram, how many FPS?
I'm assuming that, this device like all other HTC's with the 7201a processor, suffer from bad performance.
I have mine ordered, but I'm not expecting it to be any faster then my touch PRO, if anything slower, since there are no custom roms as of yet
I have charged it in the morning until it was full, and started playing with it.
It was on for 9 hours until the battery was completely dead.
I used it since 11:30 until 3:30pm, then I left it on standby for a 2 hours (battery was at 14%). I came back used it for another 2 hours, and it went dead.
Everything was on except for bluetooth and GPS.
Android Operating system used 83% of the battery and all the other application were under 5%.
I did quite a bit of browsing, photos, movies, youtube, downloaded some apps, etc...
What do you all think about the battery performance?
At the moment it is charging and I will leave it plugged in until the morning. It is also turned off.
What are your experiences? Opinions?
9 hours only? That's not good ... But probably you have quite some widgets that actively sync etc. etc.
i wouldnt worry to much as you probably just received it and you must have played with it for a while, and also try turning off the auto update of facebook, email etc etc
thats kindda dispointing, ... even with updating i expected it to last at least one full day, I mean when they put many widgets they should take into consideration the battery life ... hope its cuz the battery is new, and needs some few charges to feel maximum capability
As I said, I did have everything on apart from GPS and Bluetooth. (including updates).
And yes I did use it for 6 full hours (medium screen brightness).
Downloaded apps, watched videoclips, played some flash games, wrote e-mails, wrote texts, browsed the internet, etc... funnily enough I EVEN made 1 (one) phone call!
I wouldn't worry about it though. ALL my phones only lasted for about 8-10 hours the first day when I got them.
Doesn't new Lithium-ion battery needs a couple of charging cycles before
reaching optimal capacity!?
Would be nice if someone could update us in this thread about the battery life when you've had it a few days and it's being abused less
We must however point out a couple of things regarding the Desires out there at the moment, although we certainly do not wish to discredit anyone else's reviews.
We have been informed by a reliable source that some HTC Desires have been out for review for several days now, but these devices did not come from the same source as ours. These early versions did not contain the final ROM that we have been waiting for and I am reliably informed that those devices will have essential features missing. They have also had problems with the OS crashing and serious battery issues which is clearly down to the fact that Google had not completed the ROMS when the devices were shipped.
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found @ tracy and Matts Blog
Could It be possible, that t-Mobile did not ship the Desire with the latest firmware?
Could It be possible, that t-Mobile did not ship the Desire with the latest firmware?
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I believe you are totally right.
I had my new HTC Desire from T-Mobile delivered today. It's a good phone but I have a problem. They sent a phone with pre-release software installed. Every screen has a watermark stating "HTC Confidential" and numbers.
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Let's wait ~7th April and then we will see true battery life...
I'm fairly sure that 9 hours of constant use is pretty damn good for any device. If I use my Touch HD for browsing the net/listening to music/ syncing etc it will die in far less than that.
Remember that it is a miracle that the iPad lasts for 10 hours of constant use, and thats got a massive battery in it!
So yea get used to it! At least while you are playing with it being a new toy and all.
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I'm fairly sure that 9 hours of constant use is pretty damn good for any device. If I use my Touch HD for browsing the net/listening to music/ syncing etc it will die in far less than that.
Remember that it is a miracle that the iPad lasts for 10 hours of constant use, and thats got a massive battery in it!
So yea get used to it! At least while you are playing with it being a new toy and all.
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dont forget that the iPad has 9.7-inch (diagonal) LED display, so that shouldnt be a reason, and dont forget that the Desire's display is AMOLED which should be a battery life saver.
For the OP, if you could try using it the same (constantly) but disable the live wallpaper
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dont forget that the iPad has 9.7-inch (diagonal) LED display, so that shouldnt be a reason, and dont forget that the Desire's display is AMOLED which should be a battery life saver.
For the OP, if you could try using it the same (constantly) but disable the live wallpaper
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LED & AMOLED = Same thing.
irkan said:
dont forget that the iPad has 9.7-inch (diagonal) LED display, so that shouldnt be a reason, and dont forget that the Desire's display is AMOLED which should be a battery life saver.
For the OP, if you could try using it the same (constantly) but disable the live wallpaper
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Agree with the AMOLED, but it's running a 1ghz processor along with the already perceived power hungry android.... Gotta admit that if you expect it to last more than a few hours of playing with, will be sorely dissapointed.
Compared to my HD which had a 528mhz processor but lcd screen, which lasted less than 10 hours when playing with non stop.
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LED & AMOLED = Same thing.
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It's not the same thing. "LED" is a backlit LCD-display, AMOLED is an active matrix OLED-display, completely different technologies.
TFT-LCD's use a backlight, OLED's has active pixels that light up per pixel and does not need an extra backlight.
The battery life is really poor.
I went to bed last night with it fully charged and this morning it was completely dead. Albeit I left meebo running in the background along with lookout and advanced task killer.
Nothing was set to update as I've deleted the friend stream and rss feed.
I'm pretty sure this phone should last a lot longer than 9 hours on standby.
If you have read the whole thread, you'll see that there might be an issue with the pre-released models. Unlocked/retail phones coming out next month with latest software will probably not have this issue.
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If you have read the whole thread, you'll see that there might be an issue with the pre-released models. Unlocked/retail phones coming out next month with latest software will probably not have this issue.
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I think someone should actually test turning everything off except gsm. No data connections, no updating of anything. No GPS, bluetooth, sync, no applications running. See how much it goes down overnight with everything off.
That could maybe be a good idea, just to see how much it goes down. But if you can't use the phone at all, I just can't see the point of having t his phone. It's made to be used and you are supposed to be connected at all times, so if HTC has made this phone with so bad battery performance, that just basically sucks.
On the other hand, it seems that the final ROM from HTC was just confirmed at Google this friday, so im guessing these early phones out there does not have the final ROM.
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Agree with the AMOLED, but it's running a 1ghz processor along with the already perceived power hungry android.... Gotta admit that if you expect it to last more than a few hours of playing with, will be sorely dissapointed.
Compared to my HD which had a 528mhz processor but lcd screen, which lasted less than 10 hours when playing with non stop.
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My Nokia E75, i run wifi all day, with push mail, and Zozoc (WiFi/GPRS Messaging client) and i can easily go through one whole day (and few hours). the screen is TFT, non-touch, and small.
I know that we cant compare cuz they are entirely different, but the point is, the battery life should not be (and i hope it is not) that bad, even when running apps in the background. one day (or few hours below that) should be decent.
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If you have read the whole thread, you'll see that there might be an issue with the pre-released models. Unlocked/retail phones coming out next month with latest software will probably not have this issue.
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The OS in the T-Mobile versions have already been approved by google, so its not a pre-release.
and i agree, someone should try to stop live wallpaper and updates (just use it as simple phone, calls, messages and a little bit of WiFi) and see how much that goes
I quote the following from the first detailed review from techradar
The battery in the HTC Desire was 'only' a 1400mAh effort - we'd have like to see a 1500mAh option there, as is the case with so many other smartphones at the moment.
We're also a little concerned about the battery life - it dropped rather quickly, and although you'll get a day's worth of use out of it under normal use (ie web browsing, calling etc) it can drop a little alarmingly fast at times.
We had a little look at what was munching on the power so much (thanks to the Android battery meter) and it seems to be the widgets (in particular FriendStream) and synchronising that's taking a lot of the power, along with the constant flicking to roaming networks and back to 3G.
We found a big increase in battery life if we stopped updating Peep, Friendstream and emails all day long, and when set to '2G networks only' the battery life also improved to three days' use without problem.
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this seems good, this is decent! i dont use 3G much, i would probably update the friends stream on demand, and with a little bit above average use, i should get 1.5-2 days without problems (based on the review)
No I want some people who already have the desire to try this and come back with the result
because it had some strange hardware problem when the volume was decreased to mute on its own as if were pressing minus constantly and when the volume was at 0 it started to vibrate nonstop. No it's not a software problem
Why did I get a refund instead of a new desire? Mainly because of 2 reasons.
1. The phone is useless in the sun. I couldn't even see who is calling. Beautiful beautiful 100 billions colors oled screen turns into void. No really I'd rather buy a device with 256 colors if these colors were plainly visible in the sun. Additionally I used to read books and with the oled screen I had to read white on black because of the battery life and this is annoying.
2. Battery life is just not bearable. Yes I'm using internet and what's why I bought it! Every day I had to think about battery and this is really boring. I had to stop my last.fm radio because 20 percent left in the middle of the day.
There are other problems but these two are the most important to me
It's a phone.
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It's a phone.
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Made me chuckle
flux said:
because it had some strange hardware problem when the volume was decreased to mute on its own as if were pressing minus constantly and when the volume was at 0 it started to vibrate nonstop. No it's not a software problem
Why did I get a refund instead of a new desire? Mainly because of 2 reasons.
1. The phone is useless in the sun. I couldn't even see who is calling. Beautiful beautiful 100 billions colors oled screen turns into void. No really I'd rather buy a device with 256 colors if these colors were plainly visible in the sun. Additionally I used to read books and with the oled screen I had to read white on black because of the battery life and this is annoying.
2. Battery life is just not bearable. Yes I'm using internet and what's why I bought it! Every day I had to think about battery and this is really boring. I had to stop my last.fm radio because 20 percent left in the middle of the day.
There are other problems but these two are the most important to me
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1. having auto brightness on ive never had any problems wit the screen
2. at the end of the day its a phone, not a notebook, so if ur using it just for the internet then u should exchange it for a notebook, cuz no phone ever made would last any longer if u were using internet for couple hours
normally when im at half hour break the phone uses about 10% of the battery using internet and listening to music, in general phone lasts a day or a day and a half, and im happy with it.
1. Use auto brightness OR put brightness control app shortcut which you can change brightness quickly.
My setting:
brightness at 10% (LOW, for indoor)
brightness at 40% (NORMAL)
brightness at 70% (HIGH)
I always use LOW and my eyes is pretty happy with that.
2. With correct settings you can have up to 2 days with medium - high usage.
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2. Battery life is just not bearable. Yes I'm using internet and what's why I bought it! Every day I had to think about battery and this is really boring. I had to stop my last.fm radio because 20 percent left in the middle of the day.
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Battery life is a joke on this device, I consider returning it too because of this.
I don't want to read any explanation and advices to use it as dumb phone!!!
My Omnia II could last 2 days with heavy usage pattern, this device dies in the middle of the day!!!
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1. Use auto brightness OR put brightness control app shortcut which you can change brightness quickly.
My setting:
brightness at 10% (LOW, for indoor)
brightness at 40% (NORMAL)
brightness at 70% (HIGH)
I always use LOW and my eyes is pretty happy with that.
2. With correct settings you can have up to 2 days with medium - high usage.
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what's what I'm talking about. You have to think about your your power settings all the time. You have to stop this, screw that, get used with your eyes and so on.
NO this is not just a phone. If I wanted a phone I'd be still using my old siemens that works for weeks with no recharge.
But I'm not going to start a flame with fan boys. You like it - go for it. But don't tell me nobody warned you if you're about to buy it.
btw analog audio quality is also bad. You can hear periodic noise pattern.
@OP
Judging from your couple of posts here since joining, it's clear that the Desire has not impressed you. Hope you're able to find another device that's capable for your needs.
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Battery life is a joke on this device, I consider returning it too because of this.
I don't want to read any explanation and advices to use it as dumb phone!!!
My Omnia II could last 2 days with heavy usage pattern, this device dies in the middle of the day!!!
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People need to relax with slamming the device because of battery life. There are several reasons your battery life may be terrible.
1. Your battery is not yet optimally conditioned yet. Cycle it through charges for several weeks and it'll improve significantly.
2. Your device is new so you naturally play with it all the time for absolutely no reason. That kills your battery life too.
Nobody would suggest you use this smartphone as a dumbphone. But do you really need Twitter, Friendstream, Weather, News, and Stocks widgets to all be active on your homescreen and autoupdating every hour? Is Google Maps Latitude really necessary? Does GPS and WIFI have to be constantly on? Is 100% brightness really necessary when auto-brightness looks just fine?
Take a more conservative approach to widgets and auto-updating and that will go a long way.
Btw, if you consider the battery life of the Desire to be bad, consider yourself lucky that you didn't go for the Xperia X10. That's a smartphone that you seriously have to use as a dumbphone to get through the day.
I'm a heavy user, and my Desire is at about 15% by the end of the day. What are you doing that's draining 100% by the afternoon?
Sorry to hear you had such a bad experience with the Desire.
Battery life imho is about the same as my Hero or Diamond or Omnia.
They all last a day with heavy usage. And when you leave the phone alone it will last two days.
Especially when using a lot of services that constantly use the internet. Those things use loads of power.
As for the sun, I use a anti glare protector now and that works great. I don't find the Desire extra hard to read outside when compared to the other phones I had. They all reflected so much in direct sunlight, they were all unusable. Without the anti glare that is, but anti glare us at the cost of quality.
Anyway, perhaps its best for you to wait. Wait for a phone with super amoled screen, bigger battery and more efficient chip.
But battery life is a common problem with electronics these days. Smartphones, laptops, netbooks and tablets all are build around the battery. A constant tradeoff between battery and power consumption. Endurance or performance.
Until we see some new battery technologies arise the battery will always be the weak part. Perhaps that super fast charging new Toshiba battery might find it's way into phones soon. At least charging it will be super fast
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because it had some strange hardware problem when the volume was decreased to mute on its own as if were pressing minus constantly and when the volume was at 0 it started to vibrate nonstop. No it's not a software problem
Why did I get a refund instead of a new desire? Mainly because of 2 reasons.
1. The phone is useless in the sun. I couldn't even see who is calling. Beautiful beautiful 100 billions colors oled screen turns into void. No really I'd rather buy a device with 256 colors if these colors were plainly visible in the sun. Additionally I used to read books and with the oled screen I had to read white on black because of the battery life and this is annoying.
2. Battery life is just not bearable. Yes I'm using internet and what's why I bought it! Every day I had to think about battery and this is really boring. I had to stop my last.fm radio because 20 percent left in the middle of the day.
There are other problems but these two are the most important to me
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Well, I had same problems for a first two days. Phone was perfect, only screen wasn't visible in the sun, and also battery was empty in 5 - 6 hours. But then I played a little with settings and installed a Brightness Profiles application for a screen. Now when Im inside I have 15% Brightness and when Im outside I get 80% brightness with one click. Now screen is very well seen outside, inside it saves a lot of battery and now battery (with additional settings + task manager) lasts 1.5 days with a lot of usage or 2 days with normal usage. I had a lot of phones, but this one is perfect IMO.
btw I've just found in the device spec
Code:
Automatische Reduzierung der Klingeltonlautstärke, sobald das Handy in die Hand genommen wird
Because of this beautiful feature they got their treasure back. They have removed useful features from n1 (like trackball or active noise cancellation) and put useless ones into the desire. Way to go htc, way to go.
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Why did I returned my desire
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Why should anyone care?
flux said:
btw I've just found in the device spec
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Automatische Reduzierung der Klingeltonlautstärke, sobald das Handy in die Hand genommen wird
Because of this beautiful feature they got their treasure back. They have removed useful features from n1 (like trackball or active noise cancellation) and put useless ones into the desire. Way to go htc, way to go.
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another important thing. They also managed to remove charging stripes so it is only possible to charge it with an usb cable. Now think how long will last the miniusb connector if you connect/disconnect cable once per day.
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Hehe, let's not get mean here....
Here's what I don't get though: Why did you buy the Desire in the first place?
Certainly, you've read about the battery life. It's mentioned in every review.
And certainly, you knew about the charging contacts if you've seen pictures of the device.
Regarding the screen in direct sunlight, I don't get this argument. My last device that had decent sunlight legibility was my Compaq iPaq over 10 years ago when the screens were not backlit. I think the light came from the borders of the screen. Is there a single device available right now that provides comfortable outdoors viewing experience over long period of time?
It's almost like buying the Desire and then complaining that it doesn't have a hardware keyboard...
I read books on my Desire and I have a black screen with white text, not an issue for me. Should have got a decent app. Also re brightness, try turning the levels up if you are in a situation where you cant see the screen.
Battery gets better over a period of weeks, but like any device, if you use it smartly then the issue is minimised.
Also re the first comment......?
I think your post suggests you are not ready for a big boys toy and should invest in a pretend phone that flips up and makes sounds when you press the button so you can look cool to all your 7 year old friends at school. You will be pleased to know that you won't even have to splash out hundreds of pounds or be tied into a long contract with this option as the 99p shop often has a supply, if however 99p is too much, i'm sure you can sneak one into your pocket.
Oh and as a bonus, the screen will not be affected by sunlight! Awsome!
Also, if you would like lot's of unlimited free calls between you and your friends, open up your fridge, consume two yougharts and then attach some string to both ends of the cups and there you go! Free calls!
Now run back to the sandpit and leave the grown ups to have a mature discussion.
Good boy.
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Btw, if you consider the battery life of the Desire to be bad, consider yourself lucky that you didn't go for the Xperia X10. That's a smartphone that you seriously have to use as a dumbphone to get through the day.
I'm a heavy user, and my Desire is at about 15% by the end of the day. What are you doing that's draining 100% by the afternoon?
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If I stop my Exchange sync in business hours (every 15 minutes) then I'll lost power after 15 hours (7:00-22:00) which is acceptable and similar to your experience (I charge every night).
But with my Exchange sync ON (I need it!) it dies very quickly.
Omnia II with push exchange tend to loose about 40% of charge during business day (push email vs. 15 minutes checks). It was approximately 4-5 times better.
Desire is sooooooooo much better device/OS/software combination that I'd never like to go back, the only drawback is this battery draining.
No, I don't sync Flickr, No, my battery is not super-new (3 weeks already), 'Always on' is disabled
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This made me piss my pants!
Well said!
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This made me piss my pants!
Well said!
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I disagree, the first post of this thread may be useful for someone.
I remember skipping some devices myself based on their known issues and I'm glad someone warned others not to waste money and time on them (for instance GPS lags in HTC Touch Pro etc.).
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Hehe, let's not get mean here....
Here's what I don't get though: Why did you buy the Desire in the first place?
Certainly, you've read about the battery life. It's mentioned in every review.
And certainly, you knew about the charging contacts if you've seen pictures of the device.
Regarding the screen in direct sunlight, I don't get this argument. My last device that had decent sunlight legibility was my Compaq iPaq over 10 years ago when the screens were not backlit. I think the light came from the borders of the screen. Is there a single device available right now that provides comfortable outdoors viewing experience over long period of time?
It's almost like buying the Desire and then complaining that it doesn't have a hardware keyboard...
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fan boy detected.
I preordered the desire on 17 February yfi what reviews were available on that day?
And saying that one can get experience just reading about something is also stupid.
I don't get how some batteries seem so bad? I'm on 3 days and 14 hours since last plugged in. I did loads of surfing, some calls, about 30 photos, 20 texts, and I'm at 12% left. One thing is true, it took 2 or 3 weeks before battery got so good. Was terrible for first 3 or 4 cycles.
Has anyone got a decent case with a battery in it?
as the nexus 5 does seem to have a not too good battery life.
(considering this device)
Seriously? I'm getting 14 to 16 hours with 6+ hours screen on time. It's not bad if you ask me.
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I agree. I'm getting better battery life than any phone I have owned, without rooting and messing with cpu governors, or adding an unwieldy 3000+ mah aftermarket battery.
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wow
from what I'v heard in reviews its not great, was about 5 reviews.
hmmm, Ill look into that a bit more
also geekphone.com is showing a not too great battery life
No, your not wrong, the phone is going to have less talk time than some of its larger battery packing competitors given the same use, physics works as they say. I'm on the lookout myself but have yet to see anything.
It could could be a software and hardware thing, as samsung does take a big dump on android. Pure android and especially 4.4 theoretically should have a lower power consumption.
how long does it generally last when mid-heavily used?
I can't comment on battery life, but I can tell you you won't be seeing a battery case. Only 2 products sell enough to make it a reasonable expense to develop: The newest iPhone, and the newest Galaxy S.
Zurginator said:
I can't comment on battery life, but I can tell you you won't be seeing a battery case. Only 2 products sell enough to make it a reasonable expense to develop: The newest iPhone, and the newest Galaxy S.
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I disagree, my DHD had quite a few and it didn't have that many sales (probably less than nexus 5 in a month or so)
I'm getting much better battery life than any previous phones I've had. I can squeeze about two full days out of it with about 3-4 hours of screen on time. If I use it a lot (6+ hours screen on) or do battery heavy tasks (play a lot of games, talk on the phone a lot), then it still lasts a full day (from wake up to sleep). Unless you absolutely abhor charging your phone every night, I don't think it's worth the unnecessary bulk of a battery case.
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I'm getting much better battery life than any previous phones I've had. I can squeeze about two full days out of it with about 3-4 hours of screen on time. If I use it a lot (6+ hours screen on) or do battery heavy tasks (play a lot of games, talk on the phone a lot), then it still lasts a full day (from wake up to sleep). Unless you absolutely abhor charging your phone every night, I don't think it's worth the unnecessary bulk of a battery case.
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Is this on stock? I understand that diff configs will have diff results. When I go to bed, I usually have about 40% left with 15 hours run time about and 1 hour of screen time. This is with two gmail accounts syncing, facebook and everything on. It's not bad but nowhere near 6 hours of screen time. Especially if I play a game like Asphalt 8. The battery drops like crazy. Not complaining, but I would love to have 6 hours of screen time.
I contacted Mophie to see if they had plans to make a case for the N5. I just got a pretty generic email back but looked like they would be working on something for the N5.
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Is this on stock? I understand that diff configs will have diff results. When I go to bed, I usually have about 40% left with 15 hours run time about and 1 hour of screen time. This is with two gmail accounts syncing, facebook and everything on. It's not bad but nowhere near 6 hours of screen time. Especially if I play a game like Asphalt 8. The battery drops like crazy. Not complaining, but I would love to have 6 hours of screen time.
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I didn't make it clear enough in my post, but when I said 6 hours of screen on time or battery heavy tasks, I meant one or the other but not both. If I play games or do a lot of battery heavy tasks,t hen it doesn't last anywhere near two days. I might get 6 hours screen on time if I don't play any games, make no phone calls for the day (which is odd, I do admit), and mostly browse the internet, text, view pictures, check facebook, things of that nature. On average, I get anywhere between 2-4 hours screen on time with usually an hour of gaming, mostly texting, browsing, and other small stuff like that. It usually lasts me 2 days. It's not fantastic battery life, but definitely better than my S3 and my Atrix before that.
EDIT: I didn't use my phone much at all today. I've got about 10 minutes of phone calls and an hour of screen on time, 13 hours total, and I'm sitting at 72%. You might want to check what is using the most battery in your battery settings or download an alternate app. Screen is typically using 2 to 3 times more than the next thing under it (which for me is WiFi).
Hello all,
I recently purchased a LG G4 Back In July , on Verizon, switching over from A Galaxy Note 3 (Tmobile). Honestly I really really like the phone, but I think the battery life is pitiful for a $700 dollar "Flagship" phone. I mean not once has it ever lasted the full day. I had to buy a spare battery kit, with 2 batteries, and days when im out from 6am to late at night, I go through 2 batteries, and have to put the 3rd one in. I mean , this is simply unacceptable for a phone like this.
Also, the camera is excellent WHEN it works. A lot of times, it doesn't take the picture right away, there is a delay, and many times it falls out of focus. This is certainly not the high quality camera they advertised.
I am hoping there is a way to fix these 2 issues, mainly the battery issue though because it is awful in my opinion. Is there any tweaks or fixes for these issues?
You've barely given any relevant information other than how unhappy you are with the device, so I would suggest that you elaborate on that.
You could inform us if you're a heavy/light user, if you keep NFC, LTE, Bluetooth, Syncing, Wi-Fi, on during the whole day or maybe if you are used to 100% brightness display. Maybe you should check in your settings what is draining your battery and provide us the info.
I'm having a pretty good experience with the phone so far. It surely lasts a whole day with 3:30 to 4h SoT. I don't even need/have a spare battery.
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This is certainly not the high quality camera they advertised.
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One person having an issue doesn't mean it's not a great camera. You'll find it's likely still the best flagship camera of any OEM.
Battery use is so dependent on which apps you run, which mods you have, how often the screen is on, what brightness, signal strength, wifi, bluetooth, etc etc etc...
I came from a galaxy s3 and reckon the battery on g4 is awesome. I use it solidly on internet for 2 hrs a day (to and from work), check messages etc through the day, usually internet at lunch. And then evening time check facebook etc over WiFi infront of telly.
I unplug at 6am and plug in around 11pm with around 3% left. I bought a 2nd battery and only needed to use it twice. It has to be how you're using it.
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13 hours on battery for me today and still 71% left. Light usage but it does illustrate that the battery life can be excellent.
itm said:
13 hours on battery for me today and still 71% left. Light usage but it does illustrate that the battery life can be excellent.
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of course, you can get excellent battery life on every smartphone - just put it in aeroplane mode..
I get MAX 3h of SOT time on my G4 - this is with fixed brightness at 65% (at all times) and only wifi and 3g enabled (NFC, bluetooth and everything else is turned off all the time)
to be fair I have yet to own a smartphone that lasts me more than 4h SOT..
the thing that annoys me the most is the broken knock code used to unlock the phone - it works 20% of the time at best
its a completely broken feature LG has not properly addressed since launch of the device (I am on V10e software)
dredmentia said:
I recently purchased a LG G4 Back In July , on Verizon, switching over from A Galaxy Note 3 (Tmobile).
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There have been numerous firmware updates since. Have you ever performed a full factory reset after getting those updates ?
If the answer is no, then this is one potential reason for poor battery life. What you could try is to clear the system cache in recovery. Note, i said system cache not apps cache. Idea here is when updates come in there could be conflicts and it causes the system to work harder. clearing system cache might help, if it does not then the only option is a factory reset and then a manual install.
not restore. You install apps in batches, monitor, then install more and so on. You can restore contacts etc. but apps themselves will have to be reinstalled. Sometimes apps go rogue and have to be reinstalled. Its hard to tell which app is causing the issue. Otherwise you could just reinstall whatever app that seems to be taking up more than it should be.
Honestly I really really like the phone, but I think the battery life is pitiful for a $700 dollar "Flagship" phone. I mean not once has it ever lasted the full day. I had to buy a spare battery kit, with 2 batteries, and days when im out from 6am to late at night, I go through 2 batteries, and have to put the 3rd one in. I mean , this is simply unacceptable for a phone like this.
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What are you doing on your phone ? mention apps.
How do you access the net. How good is your signal. What are you doing when you access the net.
Also, the camera is excellent WHEN it works. A lot of times, it doesn't take the picture right away, there is a delay, and many times it falls out of focus. This is certainly not the high quality camera they advertised.
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What types of shots are these. It can happen with portraits some times. It will focus on the background behind the person instead of the person and the face becomes softer and the background very sharp.
For this set focus little above the chest instead of the face. If they are wearing dark clothing this will cause other issues so focus on something else at equal distance that isn't dark.
Always check the shot at the pixel level soon after you took it. Rather than at the end of the day.
Furma said:
of course, you can get excellent battery life on every smartphone - just put it in aeroplane mode..
I get MAX 3h of SOT time on my G4 - this is with fixed brightness at 65% (at all times) and only wifi and 3g enabled (NFC, bluetooth and everything else is turned off all the time)
to be fair I have yet to own a smartphone that lasts me more than 4h SOT..
the thing that annoys me the most is the broken knock code used to unlock the phone - it works 20% of the time at best
its a completely broken feature LG has not properly addressed since launch of the device (I am on V10e software)
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Just to clarify: I had everything turned on for those 13 hours - wifi/data/bluetooth/GPS. I also made 2 phone calls and did a bit of Chromecasting using the BT Sport app for a couple of hours. Or to put it another way, I didn't take any measures at all to preserve battery life.
I used to complain just like you're doing OP ( @dredmentia ) and fixed it all with a Zerolemon battery .
Is the phone bulky/no leather back/not easy to handle... , it sure is but if battery life is crucial then it gotta get fixed.
End my day anywhere between 7 to 13 hours of sot depending on WiFi or 4g and high CPU freqs, tried light usage and hit 3 days with 12 hours sot. Snap/insta/twit/fb/periscope/... Nothing kills this battery in a day.
When and if we get a kernel I'll move back to factory battery at least then I know I'm in control of how CPU works coz while optimizing the phone for wakelocks that's the only thing I have no control over...
As for now I'm just trying to burn thru this battery every day so I can charge it every night...
Last phone was a Z3 Sony and that really grabbed my attention with its battery life in stock form, almost too perfect, Almost.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01181ODJI/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza
This is what your talking about? Looks like a pretty nice battery.
LG G4 Battery Case, ZeroLemon LG G4 8500mAh TriCell Extended Battery + Soft TPU Full Edge Protection Case (Compatible with all LG G4 variants) (4897010519648)
It works with the USB charger that came with the phone ?
Did someone seriously just ask me if I kept the brightness on the screen at 100%???? Obviously im not doing that, im not some idiot. I know the screen eats up most of the battery. I keep the brightness extremely low way under 50%, or on auto., The battery still last a short amount of time. Its not acceptable
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Did someone seriously just ask me if I kept the brightness on the screen at 100%???? Obviously im not doing that, im not some idiot. I know the screen eats up most of the battery. I keep the brightness extremely low way under 50%, or on auto., The battery still last a short amount of time. Its not acceptable
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Then maybe something is wrong with the phone. I got also 4-5hr SoT.
It can't be just 2hr.
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Did someone seriously just ask me if I kept the brightness on the screen at 100%???? Obviously im not doing that, im not some idiot. I know the screen eats up most of the battery. I keep the brightness extremely low way under 50%, or on auto., The battery still last a short amount of time. Its not acceptable
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Did you not see my earlier post ?
Answer everything asked in full.