was wondering can i just root my m8 without flashing recovery all i want is to install adaway to block ads thats if someone could please advise
Depending on what build you are on (newer ones can't go it), you may be able to fastboot boot recovery instead of flashing recovery. Once booted into recovery, you can flash SU or SuperSU.
You need to be bootloader unlocked either way. So I actually don't see a point in doing what you ask. Once you root, you can always install stock recovery again.
redpoint73 said:
Depending on what build you are on (newer ones can't go it), you may be able to fastboot boot recovery instead of flashing recovery. Once booted into recovery, you can flash SU or SuperSU.
You need to be bootloader unlocked either way. So I actually don't see a point in doing what you ask. Once you root, you can always install stock recovery again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ok thanks i get phone tomorrow so will give it a go i used to have s5 which was easy to root this sounds complicated
pnr2020 said:
ok thanks i get phone tomorrow so will give it a go i used to have s5 which was easy to root this sounds complicated
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Every device and manufacturer has its own subtle differences and learning curve. Its really not what hard, just read up and make sure you understand before messing around with it.
pnr2020 said:
was wondering can i just root my m8 without flashing recovery all i want is to install adaway to block ads thats if someone could please advise
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Follow this guide for rooting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
but as redpoint73 said you have to unlock bootloader and install custom recovery.
Rantrave07 said:
but as redpoint73 said you have to unlock bootloader and install custom recovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is not exactly what I said. If the phone is 4.4.3 or 4.4.2, OP should be able to fastboot boot recovery without flashing it. Then flash SU/SuperSU. I've seen others do it this way, although I personally don't see much point to it.
But yes, bootloader still needs to be unlocked.
redpoint73 said:
That is not exactly what I said. If the phone is 4.4.3 or 4.4.2, OP should be able to fastboot boot recovery without flashing it. Then flash SU/SuperSU. I've seen others do it this way, although I personally don't see much point to it.
But yes, bootloader still needs to be unlocked.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah one can always flash the stock recovery after rooting.
redpoint73 said:
That is not exactly what I said. If the phone is 4.4.3 or 4.4.2, OP should be able to fastboot boot recovery without flashing it. Then flash SU/SuperSU. I've seen others do it this way, although I personally don't see much point to it.
But yes, bootloader still needs to be unlocked.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Booting it instead of flashing it is better if you want to make a backup of stock recovery. Especially if it's Philz that you're booting since TWRP doesn't seem to make backups of the stock recovery anyways.
Using the dd command to make a "copy" of the recovery works if you're rooted and to be rooted you have to have custom recovery which doesn't help much since you lose stock recovery the moment you flash the custom one, but if you boot it and root then at least you can use the dd command if that is the way you want to make a "backup" of your stock recovery. Silly little circle to run around in
BerndM14 said:
Booting it instead of flashing it is better if you want to make a backup of stock recovery. Especially if it's Philz that you're booting since TWRP doesn't seem to make backups of the stock recovery anyways.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, I was aware of that; although it didn't seem to be the OP's goal. But thanks for pointing it out for their benefit.
thanks everyone for advice im sure i will get it right just one more quick question can you still upgrade with OTA when rooted or is it like other phones where you can not
Rantrave07 said:
Follow this guide for rooting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
but as redpoint73 said you have to unlock bootloader and install custom recovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thank you for the guide that makes it sound straight forward
pnr2020 said:
thank you for the guide that makes it sound straight forward
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
:good: glad it helped
The m8 was a little complicated at first than my previous phone the nexus 5 but I figured out the m8 and I love it a lot more than my n5
spinninbsod said:
The m8 was a little complicated at first than my previous phone the nexus 5 but I figured out the m8 and I love it a lot more than my n5[/QUOE
At first i wasn't sure i liked it but im getting used to it. When lollypop comes out do i need to restore to stock or can i just OTA and root again
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
pnr2020 said:
spinninbsod said:
The m8 was a little complicated at first than my previous phone the nexus 5 but I figured out the m8 and I love it a lot more than my n5[/QUOE
At first i wasn't sure i liked it but im getting used to it. When lollypop comes out do i need to restore to stock or can i just OTA and root again
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To get updates you need a stock ROM unmodified, it can be rooted just do not mess with build.prop or platform.xml. However, to be able to install updates you need a stock recovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
XSL-FO said:
pnr2020 said:
To get updates you need a stock ROM unmodified, it can be rooted just do not mess with build.prop or platform.xml. However, to be able to install updates you need a stock recovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thank you for info so if i stay on stock rom rooted i will have no trouble installing lollypop when released
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
pnr2020 said:
XSL-FO said:
thank you for info so if i stay on stock rom rooted i will have no trouble installing lollypop when released
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As long as you have a stock recovery it's all good. But even if you have a custom one, before doing the update install a custom recovery. Make the update, and after that if you want flash again a custom recovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Related
Hi,
I used the all-in-one tool kit to root my M8. I was following the steps involved and was successful. I tried to install the xposed framework and was told to flash a custom kernel. After doing so my phone will only boot into the fastboot menu, with the "tampered" warning at the top. I can get into the recovery through hboot. Is my phone ruined and if not how can I get this fixed?
Sorry if this has been asked before but I am quite nervous that I ruined my phone. Any help would be much appreciated.
Just restore a back up through recovery or if you don't have one then sideload a rom with that toolkit you used.
michaelmcker said:
Hi,
I used the all-in-one tool kit to root my M8. I was following the steps involved and was successful. I tried to install the xposed framework and was told to flash a custom kernel. After doing so my phone will only boot into the fastboot menu, with the "tampered" warning at the top. I can get into the recovery through hboot. Is my phone ruined and if not how can I get this fixed?
Sorry if this has been asked before but I am quite nervous that I ruined my phone. Any help would be much appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what mod were you trying to install from xposed that required a custom kernel? I have it on mine and was never prompted for that!
x714x said:
Just restore a back up through recovery or if you don't have one then sideload a rom with that toolkit you used.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think that should work, is there a way to sideload the factory version of the m8?
michaelmcker said:
I think that should work, is there a way to sideload the factory version of the m8?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are stock roms you can sideload, or find the RUU for your device and return back to 100% stock.
thanks
x714x said:
There are stock roms you can sideload, or find the RUU for your device and return back to 100% stock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, I assume the ones on the HTC dev site are the best bet?
x714x said:
There are stock roms you can sideload, or find the RUU for your device and return back to 100% stock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Any mod that I install wont go past the boot screen, what can I do?
michaelmcker said:
Any mod that I install wont go past the boot screen, what can I do?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Now you are installing mods?????
Have you got your system up and running again? You need to provide more details.....
Did you attain S-Off?
I think he needs write access.
I could be wrong though.
is there away to install SuperSU when you have stock recovery? I'm thinking that we have to have either CWM/TWRP to install the zip. or am I having a brain fart on this.....
Thanks for whomever can clear my cobwebs..
You need a custom recovery (TWRP or CWM).
bkeaver said:
is there away to install SuperSU when you have stock recovery? I'm thinking that we have to have either CWM/TWRP to install the zip. or am I having a brain fart on this.....
Thanks for whomever can clear my cobwebs..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can install it if you have the bootloader unlocked.
Use boot command instead of flash to boot into custom recovery and install su.
e.g
Fastboot boot twrp.img
uronfire said:
You can install it if you have the bootloader unlocked.
Use boot command instead of flash to boot into custom recovery and install su.
e.g
Fastboot boot twrp.img
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, this.
However, why bother keeping stock recovery at all? Stock recovery is effectively neutered once rooted, as you can no longer install an OTA.
uronfire said:
You can install it if you have the bootloader unlocked.
Use boot command instead of flash to boot into custom recovery and install su.
e.g
Fastboot boot twrp.img
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks this worked :good:
so when I go into recovery now I get a image of a htc one with a red triangle and exclamation mark inside of it?? since I have never went into recovery on this phone before isn't it supposed to look like any other stock recovery??? and if this isn't right I have tried flashing the recovery already and still get the same result... can someone expand on this for me pls
bkeaver said:
so when I go into recovery now I get a image of a htc one with a red triangle and exclamation mark inside of it?? since I have never went into recovery on this phone before isn't it supposed to look like any other stock recovery??? and if this isn't right I have tried flashing the recovery already and still get the same result... can someone expand on this for me pls
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You have stock recovery.
BenPope said:
You have stock recovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so it doesn't give you flash update and wipe and all that anymore.. sorry like I said I have never went into recovery on this phone.. just making sure...
bkeaver said:
so it doesn't give you flash update and wipe and all that anymore.. sorry like I said I have never went into recovery on this phone.. just making sure...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think you have to hold volume up and hit power or something.
ok I am good.. thank you... I'm putting everything back to stock because someone bought my phone and I just want to make sure everything is correct on it now.. thanks!!
redpoint73 said:
Yes, this.
However, why bother keeping stock recovery at all? Stock recovery is effectively neutered once rooted, as you can no longer install an OTA.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i sold the phone and this is what they requested. I know the OTA wont work and I never keep stock recoveries on my phones but.... I guess they will find out for themselves
and btw thanks everyone for the help. I hit my thanks button but on my browser it it isn't showing it just to let you know....
bkeaver said:
i sold the phone and this is what they requested. I know the OTA wont work and I never keep stock recoveries on my phones but.... I guess they will find out for themselves
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sounds like somebody that is a bit ill-informed. They want root, but they probably also want OTA (the 2 don't go together, IMO) and heard that you need stock recovery for OTA. I suppose they can change everything back that they modified with root, and unroot or hide root to install the OTA. But it just seems they are making life more complicated than it needs to be.
Also sounds like its a person that wants root, but not willing to do it themselves. But I suppose that's not really your problem!
Option to root and have ota is very easy :
Stock rom (unmodified but rooted)
Stock recovery
And you can ota. The ota will probably delete superuser but that's about it. The ota will not fail because its rooted as long as the stock rom/apps are unmodified
Mr Hofs said:
Option to root and have ota is very easy :
Stock rom (unmodified but rooted)
Stock recovery
And you can ota. The ota will probably delete superuser but that's about it. The ota will not fail because its rooted as long as the stock rom/apps are unmodified
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah this is what I did for them so who knows.. I've never tried it that way but i guess it would work like that
redpoint73 said:
Yes, this.
However, why bother keeping stock recovery at all? Stock recovery is effectively neutered once rooted, as you can no longer install an OTA.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Rooting doesn't affect ota's, at least not in my experience.
ashyx said:
Rooting doesn't affect ota's, at least not in my experience.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Only if absolutely nothing was changed with the stock ROM.
Its more my point there is little point to installing OTAs on a rooted device.
redpoint73 said:
Only if absolutely nothing was changed with the stock ROM.
Its more my point there is little point to installing OTAs on a rooted device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't understand that statement. I still run stock sense, but with a few additions that don't affect ota's. So I still get updates while having things configured the way I want. I can also run things that require root such as titanium backup and a few others.
ashyx said:
I don't understand that statement. I still run stock sense, but with a few additions that don't affect ota's. So I still get updates while having things configured the way I want. I can also run things that require root such as titanium backup and a few others.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because once you accept an OTA, you will be unrooted. You will have to root again, either by installing custom recovery (than back to stock recovery so you can OTA) or the trick of booting custom recovery via adb to flash SU (as described here). Its just a lot of jumping through hoops with little added value.
On the other hand, if you have custom recovery installed, you can flash any of the array of stock rooted or awesome custom ROMs posted here. This includes stock rooted ROMs taken from OTA updates from lots of versions (often posted within days of the OTA starting to roll out), not just your carrier, so you can possibly get an update much faster than waiting for the OTA to roll out from your carrier (although that depends on what carrier version you have). You also don't have to constantly be worried "well, if I change this I won't get OTAs". You can do whatever the heck you want, and isn't that really the whole point of root?
Its just my opinion. And a lot of this may stem from the fact that I'm on AT&T, who are not only agonizingly slow about rolling out OTAs (sometimes 3-4 months or even later than other carriers on my past HTC device) and have even went to the effort to close exploits and prevent unlocking of bootloaders when rolling out new OTAs (on the One X EVITA). In fact there was even a bug (I assume it was a bug - others may accuse that it was intentional) where installing the Jellybean OTA with SuperCID and S-on bricked the phone.
As I said, its just an opinion. But there are many others on XDA that will agree that OTAs have no place on rooted Android devices.
And to be fair, I did cover myself and stated "there is little point" instead of "there is no point"
I'm somewhat certain I already know the answer to this but I just need confirmation.
With a locked bootloader, flashing anything other than stock will be unsuccessful, right? I've just rooted my t807a and am looking to get xposed running. I just don't want to brick this thing now that I've FINALLY got it rooted.
So what's the bad? What happens if I try to flash a custom recovery? Will it flash and then not work? Will it fail to flash? Will I be bricked/caught in a bootloop?
Right off the bat, let me make one thing abundantly clear: I do not care if I trip Knox. I assume the warranty is voided as soon as I take a new device out of the box so I really don't care if Samsung or AT&T finds out that I've been misbehaving.
In case it matters:
Model: SAMSUNG-SM-T807A
Android version: 5.0.2
Baseband version: T807AUCU1BOD4
Kernel version: 3.4.39-4727547
Build number: LRX22G.T807AUCU1BOD4
Device Status: Custom
Okay I'm no genius, but maybe do a search on using the app flashify to flash custom recovery (twrp) ......obviously the right file for your device.
I've used thus before on other devices and it work well but do your research . Flash at own risk.
Sent from my SM-T800 using Tapatalk
DO NOT flash a custom recovery or kernel on a bootloader locked device!
Unless you want a nice brick.
If you want xposed use Flashfire.
ashyx said:
DO NOT flash a custom recovery or kernel on a bootloader locked device!
Unless you want a nice brick.
If you want xposed use Flashfire.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just to make sure I understand what you're telling me: even with a locked bootloader, it should be safe to use Flashfire to apply the xposed .zip? I'm not familiar with Flashfire yet, so I'm off to educate myself.
thorvindr said:
Just to make sure I understand what you're telling me: even with a locked bootloader, it should be safe to use Flashfire to apply the xposed .zip? I'm not familiar with Flashfire yet, so I'm off to educate myself.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Modifying or flashing a custom rom is fine, the bootloader doesn't really care, neither does knox seemingly.
ashyx said:
Modifying or flashing a custom rom is fine, the bootloader doesn't really care, neither does knox seemingly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Having trouble finding documentation on this device's partitions, which are (it seems) not quite the same as most Android devices. To make sure I can recover from (for example) a bad ROM flash, what should I backup? Is flashfire the thing to use for making such a backup?
You can use Flashfire to make a backup, but it's not going to help you in a no boot situation. Be very careful what you flash. Some things such as xposed can leave you in a no boot situation if incorrectly flashed.
My first port of call would have been capturing the ota for backup purposes. Unfortunately that is probably out of the window now you have rooted.
There is apparently a way to get kies/smart switch to redownload the firmware, so I'd be going down that root first.
ashyx said:
You can use Flashfire to make a backup, but it's not going to help you in a no boot situation. Be very careful what you flash. Some things such as xposed can leave you in a no boot situation if incorrectly flashed.
My first port of call would have been capturing the ota for backup purposes. Unfortunately that is probably out of the window now you have rooted.
There is apparently a way to get kies/smart switch to redownload the firmware, so I'd be going down that root first.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If I can boot to recovery, won't I be able to access the flashfire backup on my microsd card? As long as I don't try to flash a custom recovery, shouldn't I always be able to work from that backup? Or does a flashfire backup need the flashfire app to be useable?
thorvindr said:
Or does a flashfire backup need the flashfire app to be useable?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You just answered your own question.
ashyx said:
You just answered your own question.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, I didn't. I assume you're telling me the answer to my first question is no?
ashyx said:
There is apparently a way to get kies/smart switch to redownload the firmware, so I'd be going down that root first.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Anywhere you could point me to figure out how to do that? If I had that, I'd be golden. Hell, I'd share it with the world since for whatever reason nobody seems to have stock ROMs for the 807a.
thorvindr said:
No, I didn't. I assume you're telling me the answer to my first question is no?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I quoted your last question. The answer is you need flashfire.
---------- Post added at 07:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:06 PM ----------
thorvindr said:
Anywhere you could point me to figure out how to do that? If I had that, I'd be golden. Hell, I'd share it with the world since for whatever reason nobody seems to have stock ROMs for the 807a.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tbh I don't use kies/smart switch much, but you will find information on it on the net.
Hey all,
I'm a bit of a nub at this, but can I boot into TWRP and root my OP3, without losing stock recovery? If I remember correctly from a while back, when I Odin'd TWRP to a Samsung device, it asked me if I wanted to install TWRP and allow system modification. If I choose not to, will I keep both stock and root?
Thanks!
I am no expert by any means, but for my Nexus 6, I could use the nexus root toolkit to boot into twrp without changing the recovery. It used 'fastboot boot' command I believe, so you should be able to accomplish the same by typing 'fastboot boot twrp.img'.
iScripters said:
Hey all,
I'm a bit of a nub at this, but can I boot into TWRP and root my OP3, without losing stock recovery? If I remember correctly from a while back, when I Odin'd TWRP to a Samsung device, it asked me if I wanted to install TWRP and allow system modification. If I choose not to, will I keep both stock and root?
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I selected "don't allow system modifications" when it came up but it kept twrp so the stock OP3 rom does not overwrite your custom recovery. Though my ota installed fine using twrp so I see no reason to use the stock recovery.
StykerB said:
I selected "don't allow system modifications" when it came up but it kept twrp so the stock OP3 rom does not overwrite your custom recovery. Though my ota installed fine using twrp so I see no reason to use the stock recovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the info! Can anyone else confirm OTA's will install with TWRP installed?
iScripters said:
Thanks for the info! Can anyone else confirm OTA's will install with TWRP installed?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It DOES still required an unmodded + system never being mounted r/w just fyi.
I just got my oneplus 3 and I really wanna root it to be able to switch out the stock android emoji's. On my OPO I were able to temporary run TWRP to get root but on this people are saying different things. AM I able to temporary run TWRP with fastboot boot blabla and then flash SuperSU and then still have stock recovery because I really don't wanna have TWRP if I can't update using the OTA's. And emoji switcher requires root so
Or am I able to flash TWRP, Flash SuperSU and then download emoji switcher and get my iphone emojis and then update with OTA not by flashing?
iScripters said:
Thanks for the info! Can anyone else confirm OTA's will install with TWRP installed?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can read up in oneplus one forum and so on about this. Believe me you are not the first to ask this question so do a little research before flashing its a lot to know.So be on top of what you are trying to do
playya said:
You can read up in oneplus one forum and so on about this. Believe me you are not the first to ask this question so do a little research before flashing its a lot to know.So be on top of what you are trying to do
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lame reply. We are in OP3 forums.
After seeing your replies it's clear that you are just a noobish loser. No offense meant, but it's true.
/plonk
pathologo said:
Lame reply. We are in OP3 forums.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Must admit your words of wisdom left me breathless. I nicely said stop typing and start searching you noobs need to research the "WEB" which is more than just here for an answer. Bahaha haha you guys kill me... Rookie! Peace out
It seems that the Nougat and Marshmallow are the same procedures. The reason why I have made this post is, why didn't anyone here say that it is no different than the Marshmallow procedure?!
So far, everything is working without any complain!
Network is fine. Did I forget something that I should check if it's working or not?
Why should it be mentioned it isn't changed. It's actually only important when things DO change ! No news......no change. Simple as that. And if you do a xda search there will very likely be a post which will mention there are no changes regarding unlocking the bootloader, even sunshine to S-Off the device is still working the same.
Don't expect to be spoonfed but do some good old fashioned research. Checking the HTC dev site and the procedures there to unlock the bootloader hasn't changed either. Even their whole website layout hasn't changed.
But if something hasn't changed in the future we will put a reminder up to tell you
:highfive:
how do you root nougat HTC 10?
riz157 said:
how do you root nougat HTC 10?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The same as MM. Unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP and flash Superuser.zip (root access)
Mr Hofs said:
The same as MM. Unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP and flash Superuser.zip (root access)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks could you provide link to correct superuser and flash via twrp pls?
I tried one file and got stuck in bootloop, fortunately I had backup so restored that.
riz157 said:
Thanks could you provide link to correct superuser and flash via twrp pls?
I tried one file and got stuck in bootloop, fortunately I had backup so restored that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/2014-09-02-supersu-v2-05-t2868133
Mr Hofs said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/2014-09-02-supersu-v2-05-t2868133
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks finally do I need s-off to flash custom ROM?
riz157 said:
Thanks finally do I need s-off to flash custom ROM?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No that's not mandatory.
Mr Hofs said:
No that's not mandatory.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks for your help, i've decided not to root but just flashed custom rom. I was informed i don't need root to flash custom roms, just waiting for it boot up!
riz157 said:
thanks for your help, i've decided not to root but just flashed custom rom. I was informed i don't need root to flash custom roms, just waiting for it boot up!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Indeed. Pretty much all the custom roms comes with root access.
Enjoy