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[Q] Who else is getting the dingy yellowish white color problem?

So my Note 2 and some others are experiencing dull and yellowish white contrast as talked about in this POST. Also this POST shows the Note 2 being much brighter. We've tested this with both units on high brightness and dynamic mode on, with the browser brightness all the way up as well. I even did a hard reset, and the low brightness dingy whites are still there on the Note 2. I'm looking into returning the phone for a replacement through the AT&T store I bought it from. Most people don't have this problem on their Note 2's so it seems like its only affecting a few units, but we need to get this out in the open. Maybe there are two different panel types shipping out. Please check and compare your Note 2's white's brightness compared to other Note 2's and other original notes and report here.

I'm also seeing the same dirty white screen. I might go to the local AT&T store to compare it with another Note 2 if they have a demo unit. If anyone can do this and get side by side comparisons I'd like to see this. I hesitate to do a replacement because they are probably only going to offer a refurbished unit as a replacement and the chances are it's going to be another unit with the same issue.

dstech said:
I'm also seeing the same dirty white screen. I might go to the local AT&T store to compare it with another Note 2 if they have a demo unit. If anyone can do this and get side by side comparisons I'd like to see this. I hesitate to do a replacement because they are probably only going to offer a refurbished unit as a replacement and the chances are it's going to be another unit with the same issue.
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The AT&T store said they would order me a new one. When I called customer care (611) they would only offer a refurbished phone. So stick to the exchanging it at the store. The store I bought it from doesn't have any more in stock but are willing to order me a new one.

You know what stop comparing note 2 to other screens. Every screen has different color calibration and software versions effect this.
My first phone was galaxy s1 and the screen seemed fine since I had no other phone to compare but I compared to my ipod touch 2nd gen. Sgs1 had blue tint. Then I got sgs2 and the screen was very purplish compared to my friends sgs2.
I was obsessed to get the perfect screen so I changed it 5 times. 1 for the dead pixel and 2nd for the white spot on tje screen and the last 3 for the purplish hue. 3rd phone was really purple and obviously something was wrong. And I checked all the phones that are on display in various stores they had yellowish hue. But still compared to sgs1 it had warmer whites. Now I have note 2 and I recently put all 4 of them side by side and compared.
Sgs1: cool blue tint, looks very unnatural.
Sgs2: has a red hue compared to sgs1 but still looks not as warm (red) compared to itouch.
Note2: compared to sgs1&sgs2 it has a warmer white, much much better color balance of them all. However compared to itouch I realized it has a yellow hue.
BUT!!!! I compared it to my laptop's white and 40" lcd tv's white, note 2 still as not yellow as my laptop and tv.
If I were you I would try to enjoy the phone instead of comparing it unless its an obvious defect. Each screen is different and has to be calibrated. Its just means the calibration is different then other devices.
I have to admit, when I compared note 2 to itouch I was surprised by the yellow hue but I am not gonna go and change it again. Not every 2 screen is the same.
Think that your "note2 doesnt have a yellow hue" , maybe its your old note has a blue hue?

Also if you tilt the screen and look it from different angles you will see yellow hue disappear. I had the exact same thing on sgs2. You have to live with it. I am %100 sure even if you change 5 times you will end up with the same problem.

Wow fukn bs yellow ****
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warfanax said:
Also if you tilt the screen and look it from different angles you will see yellow hue disappear. I had the exact same thing on sgs2. You have to live with it. I am %100 sure even if you change 5 times you will end up with the same problem.
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warfanax is pretty right I went and exchanged it today for another note 2 and it looks the same an 4 units tested in store, all had warm whites....so that being said the OG note still has a brighter "looking"screen and brighter whites even if they are blue it gives the appearance of being brighter. Oh well, I'll live with it for the quad core and 2 gigs of ram though. Cant have everything...

I don't have the programming knowledge but don't think an app that changes screen colors is very hard to make. Some kind of color boost is already included in our phones in display section.
There was an app like that for sgs1 that let you tweak RGB colors.

warfanax said:
I don't have the programming knowledge but don't think an app that changes screen colors is very hard to make. Some kind of color boost is already included in our phones in display section.
There was an app like that for sgs1 that let you tweak RGB colors.
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Like this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netmanslab.sa

Futant55 said:
Like this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netmanslab.sa
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Thanks for the link but that app only washed the screen out with the contrast adjustment. It washed out the black levels. I just realized that I'm running Paranoid Android on my original Note and under Settings>Display there is an option for filtering and dimness. Its set to (20) by default. If I lower the number to like 10 it then matches my note 2's screen brightness at 100%. Its as if this Paranoid Android setting makes the back light on the Note 1 put out brighter (while killing battery life I'm sure) while still keeping the black levels black. Could this setting be what is making my note look brighter than my note 2 and can settings like those be applied with a new rom or an app on the Note 2?

I exchanged out my Grey GN2 for a white version for another defect issue yesterday and the screen on this new phone is definitely whiter. I'm happy, but I agree with others that the yellowish screen was probably due to normal manufacturing tolerance variations.
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I'm within my 14 day window so I'm going to go to the ATT store and compare mine to another GN2 and if mines deficient I'll have them replace it. Will post back with results in a few days.
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[Q] Considering buying this in the UK - Octacore version. Opinions?

Hello everyone,
after 4 returns of LG G Pads, all of which had screen issues (adhesive yellow lines, light bleeding, 7 light spots of doom at the bottom) I've decided to up my game and move to 10.1 as something futureproof and fun to own...
However most issues pop AFTER we get our hands on the tablet. As such, I would like to ask the owners. Hand over heart - what are the + and - and what are the most common issues (if any) reported with this tablet?
Thinking of buying it from Pcworld today.
Thank you

evak2979 said:
Hello everyone,
after 4 returns of LG G Pads, all of which had screen issues (adhesive yellow lines, light bleeding, 7 light spots of doom at the bottom) I've decided to up my game and move to 10.1 as something futureproof and fun to own...
However most issues pop AFTER we get our hands on the tablet. As such, I would like to ask the owners. Hand over heart - what are the + and - and what are the most common issues (if any) reported with this tablet?
Thinking of buying it from Pcworld today.
Thank you
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There were some early assembly issues (S Pen loose in silo, speaker grills uneven or loose, BT connectivity issues) that seem to have abated because after the wave of early builds they haven't been mentioned lately. If you're a lag-freak the N10.1-14 does suffer from the occasional transition stutter or milliseconds of lag opening and closing apps. I'd peg it as lag free 95% of the time. We're getting Magazine UX/4.4 soon and the Tab/Pro's shown on video from their CES launch looked much smoother than the N10.1-14. Do you have better than 20/20 vision? A couple of people who do (or apparently do) have noticed some display anomalies when looking at certain content; most likely because of the N10.1-14's RGBW PenTile display. I can't replicate it but have only mere mortal vision.
The top reasons to get the N10.1-14 are:
Display. I think it's gorgeous no matter what anyone else says and I compare it against my N3 everyday.
Form factor. Amazingly light, slim, and small for a 10" tablet.
Doing stuff. S Pen, S Note, Multi View, Action Memo, Scrap Book and the like are huge productivity benefits and once you start using them they are hard to live without. I'm on my second round of "Notes" with the N3 and N10.1-14 replacing my N2 and N10.1-12.
The top reasons not to buy it:
You're a pure consumption user. All of the extra features of the N10.1-14 use a lot of resources and if you're not going to use them will just be annoying. You pay a lot of money for the N10.1-14 because of those features (and premium h/w that's needed to power them) and to not use them will leave you frustrated.
You're a lag-freak. As it stands there's some stuttering, hesitation, and lag about 5% of the time. It's most prominent when there's a bunch of background processing going on. Some of the proprietary apps can throw up a spinning wheel while they're processing. For example you can move content between two apps open in Multi View. It's not always instant. You can also use Air Command to copy full screens of content from various sources to be saved in your Scrap Book. It too isn't instant.
You have super human vision or live-and-die by a "perfect" display. Some people here (a half dozen?) are really freaking out about some anomalies they've detected in the display. Interestingly, other than a single reviewer who actually has 20/15 vision mentioning he noticed "something different" about the display no one outside XDA has mentioned what some folks here have found/described. The difference between a RGB display and the N10.1-14's PenTile display is that because of an indirect sub-pixel arrangement, in certain situations like specific saturated colors on specific backgrounds, there can be detectable imperfections on certain content. You can read more here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2615750. Since you're leaving the G Pad over its display do yourself (and the forum ) a favor and make sure your display expectations are met before you buy a N10.1-14.
Assuming you're not buying an LTE version, the Wi-Fi and 3G versions take a looong time to charge; as long as seven hours to get to 100%.
Happy shopping.

BarryH_GEG said:
There were some early assembly issues (S Pen loose in silo, speaker grills uneven or loose, BT connectivity issues) that seem to have abated because after the wave of early builds they haven't been mentioned lately. If you're a lag-freak the N10.1-14 does suffer from the occasional transition stutter or milliseconds of lag opening and closing apps. I'd peg it as lag free 95% of the time. We're getting Magazine UX/4.4 soon and the Tab/Pro's shown on video from their CES launch looked much smoother than the N10.1-14. Do you have better than 20/20 vision? A couple of people who do (or apparently do) have noticed some display anomalies when looking at certain content; most likely because of the N10.1-14's RGBW PenTile display. I can't replicate it but have only mere mortal vision.
The top reasons to get the N10.1-14 are:
Display. I think it's gorgeous no matter what anyone else says and I compare it against my N3 everyday.
Form factor. Amazingly light, slim, and small for a 10" tablet.
Doing stuff. S Pen, S Note, Multi View, Action Memo, Scrap Book and the like are huge productivity benefits and once you start using them they are hard to live without. I'm on my second round of "Notes" with the N3 and N10.1-14 replacing my N2 and N10.1-12.
The top reasons not to buy it:
You're a pure consumption user. All of the extra features of the N10.1-14 use a lot of resources and if you're not going to use them will just be annoying. You pay a lot of money for the N10.1-14 because of those features (and premium h/w that's needed to power them) and to not use them will leave you frustrated.
You're a lag-freak. As it stands there's some stuttering, hesitation, and lag about 5% of the time. It's most prominent when there's a bunch of background processing going on. Some of the proprietary apps can throw up a spinning wheel while they're processing. For example you can move content between two apps open in Multi View. It's not always instant. You can also use Air Command to copy full screens of content from various sources to be saved in your Scrap Book. It too isn't instant.
You have super human vision or live-and-die by a "perfect" display. Some people here (a half dozen?) are really freaking out about some anomalies they've detected in the display. Interestingly, other than a single reviewer who actually has 20/15 vision mentioning he noticed "something different" about the display no one outside XDA has mentioned what some folks here have found/described. The difference between a RGB display and the N10.1-14's PenTile display is that because of an indirect sub-pixel arrangement, in certain situations like specific saturated colors on specific backgrounds, there can be detectable imperfections on certain content. You can read more here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2615750. Since you're leaving the G Pad over its display do yourself (and the forum ) a favor and make sure your display expectations are met before you buy a N10.1-14.
Assuming you're not buying an LTE version, the Wi-Fi and 3G versions take a looong time to charge; as long as seven hours to get to 100%.
Happy shopping.
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I have owned (and loved) an S4 before it got stolen and I moved to my Z1.
I never had an issue with Samsung, but I do remember the occasional lag/stutter. I think it's to be used to.
The main reasons why I opted for the 10.1 are:
- The stylus + multi window. I do a lot of reading/writing and I often carry a paperbook around when I read a book to keep notes. But I am not the most tidy of persons, and I thought that operating a 10.1 in multiwindow instead would allow me to keep notes as I kindled through content.
- The specs appear future proof and XDA appears to have a good community for customing Samsungs. With cleanroms and what not, I am hoping to be able to keep the functionality of the Stylus along with a more lag free experience.
- Yes, I enjoy my movies and online magazine content, so the screen is important to me.
I will order one and hope to see it arrive by tomorrow. I can always return it within 7 days, but I doubt I will (Light bleed or faulty screens however are an immediate no go for me ! )
AS a 10.1 owner, do you think my reasons are valid? Thanks for your feedback

evak2979 said:
I have owned (and loved) an S4 before it got stolen and I moved to my Z1.
I never had an issue with Samsung, but I do remember the occasional lag/stutter. I think it's to be used to.
The main reasons why I opted for the 10.1 are:
- The stylus + multi window. I do a lot of reading/writing and I often carry a paperbook around when I read a book to keep notes. But I am not the most tidy of persons, and I thought that operating a 10.1 in multiwindow instead would allow me to keep notes as I kindled through content.
- The specs appear future proof and XDA appears to have a good community for customing Samsungs. With cleanroms and what not, I am hoping to be able to keep the functionality of the Stylus along with a more lag free experience.
- Yes, I enjoy my movies and online magazine content, so the screen is important to me.
I will order one and hope to see it arrive by tomorrow. I can always return it within 7 days, but I doubt I will (Light bleed or faulty screens however are an immediate no go for me ! )
AS a 10.1 owner, do you think my reasons are valid? Thanks for your feedback
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Up until a few days ago everyone here almost universally loved the display. A couple of people started ragging on it just recently. I wouldn't have even mentioned the display as anything but "outstanding" if not for those few people's recent comments. I've tried to replicate each of the scenarios they are bothered by and just can't. One of them admitted to 20/15 vision so s/he may be seeing imperfections I don't. People that have bought the N10.1-14 on my recommendation (with the display playing a large part) have been universally pleased.
As for lag and such my i7 gaming desktop with 12GB of RAM and 10K RPM drives lags occasionally. I shrug while others will blow away and rebuild Windows over it. To each their own.
Based on what you've described you'll be blown away by the N10.1-14's productivity features. But give them some time before drawing a conclusion. Being developed by Asian's for Western users the functionality isn't always intuitive or well presented. It is logical though and the more you use it the more comfortable you become with it.
I have a 3G version that I bought in the U.S. as an import and paid an un-Godly price for it. Almost twice the $389 some people that are complaining about certain aspects of the N10.1-14 paid during a recent refurb promotion that ran. I'm happy but it's hard to anticipate what makes others happy. After the past couple of days of pretty brutal discussion on lag and the display (which I don't personally agree with) I've learned not to project my expectations and what satisfies them on to others.
Based on your list I think you'll be happy though. And even happier when we get moved to 4.4/M-UX which is imminent because leaks have started to appear.

BarryH_GEG said:
Up until a few days ago everyone here almost universally loved the display. A couple of people started ragging on it just recently. I wouldn't have even mentioned the display as anything but "outstanding" if not for those few people's recent comments. I've tried to replicate each of the scenarios they are bothered by and just can't. One of them admitted to 20/15 vision so s/he may be seeing imperfections I don't. People that have bought the N10.1-14 on my recommendation (with the display playing a large part) have been universally pleased.
As for lag and such my i7 gaming desktop with 12GB of RAM and 10K RPM drives lags occasionally. I shrug while others will blow away and rebuild Windows over it. To each their own.
Based on what you've described you'll be blown away by the N10.1-14's productivity features. But give them some time before drawing a conclusion. Being developed by Asian's for Western users the functionality isn't always intuitive or well presented. It is logical though and the more you use it the more comfortable you become with it.
I have a 3G version that I bought in the U.S. as an import and paid an un-Godly price for it. Almost twice the $389 some people that are complaining about certain aspects of the N10.1-14 paid during a recent refurb promotion that ran. I'm happy but it's hard to anticipate what makes others happy. After the past couple of days of pretty brutal discussion on lag and the display (which I don't personally agree with) I've learned not to project my expectations and what satisfies them on to others.
Based on your list I think you'll be happy though. And even happier when we get moved to 4.4/M-UX which is imminent because leaks have started to appear.
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Just came home from pc world and saw the note...
It has yellow discoloration at the edges, and on the sides, visible on the whites..Just like the lg g pads i was forced to return...
I am terrified my unit tomorrow will suffer from the same. Can I be that unlucky?

gamerdad09 said:
Or your eye's are extremely sensitive to light? My Note 10.1 2014 is my 4th tablet to own. Out of the one's I've owned, only my original Nexus 7 had a slight light bleed on one side. I've not experienced such an issue with my Note 10.1 2014.
I also do not notice the PenTile grid that some people keep pointing out on the Note 10.1 2014. I've seen the PenTile grid a couple times on my Galaxy S3 when fooling with the brightness and depending on the lighting, but I've yet to see it on my Note 10.1 2014.
As Barry has mentioned, there are a lot of different factors that could be an issue for some folks. If you have the brightness up, you're sitting under a bright light, you have better than average eye sight, there are many reasons you could see an anomaly or part of the device such as the PenTile grid.
Generally the picture is really crisp and clear unless I load a website that is using some low resolution images on the site. Those appear fuzzy and stand out compared to the crisp text.
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No,no, I had a friend with me. We were both mocking Ipads and how they had a known yellow tint issue on left hand side.
Then I walked over to the note 10.1 2014 (mine is arriving tomorrow by delivery), and against whites there was an obvious yellow discoloration on the bottom right corner, as if from leftover adhesive or what not. I've not read ANYTHING like that for the notes, but I just finished returning the 4th lg g pad over it (if you go over to the lg g pad section of xda, under general and QA/Screen quality, you will see what I speak of..)
At this point all I can do is pray haha

Good luck with your note. I have had mine for a few months now and have yet to experience any sort of issues with the screen. Demo units at stores I think are more likely to have issues because of the amount of wear and abuse they get rom random people/kids fondling them.

So far this tablet is totally forgotten by Samsung.
I'm still at mj6 for 3 months, the tablet lags , the lock screen takes 3 secs to wake up and Samsung does not even care.
My advice stay away from note 10.1 2014.
Why care for a product that's already forgotten by the manufacturer?
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Lympe said:
So far this tablet is totally forgotten by Samsung.
I'm still at mj6 for 3 months, the tablet lags , the lock screen takes 3 secs to wake up and Samsung does not even care.
My advice stay away from note 10.1 2014.
Why care for a product that's already forgotten by the manufacturer?
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I've hard of occasional lag but I doubt a 3-4 month old tab has been forgotten

Well here is my first review.
A beautiful tablet, but a bit on the heavy side. Unfortunately I am returning this one as well - severe light bleeding on the bottom and right side in landscape mode. at least 8-9 spots illuminating the screen.
I think God's telling me to drop the tablet idea altogether..
I might try once more with the note though, it really does look beautiful

Tablets as a form factor
evak2979 said:
Well here is my first review.
A beautiful tablet, but a bit on the heavy side. Unfortunately I am returning this one as well - severe light bleeding on the bottom and right side in landscape mode. at least 8-9 spots illuminating the screen.
I think God's telling me to drop the tablet idea altogether..
I might try once more with the note though, it really does look beautiful
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This tablet is fast and smooth. I have noticed light bleed on all tablets that I have owned (nexus 7, nexus 7 2013, Asus Tranformer Ifinity TF-701, Samsung Note 10.1 2014.
I am happy with this new tablet, since some selfish bastard broke into my house and stole my TF-701. This tablet by far has the best resolution, and the best display of all I have owned. The light bleed is minimal compared to the nexus 7s.
Maybe I got a good one, or I have just gotten used to light bleed on larger formats.
I would recommend this tablet, as long as you are comfortable with Touchwiz, and Samsung's way of doing things.

Hankafyin said:
This tablet is fast and smooth. I have noticed light bleed on all tablets that I have owned (nexus 7, nexus 7 2013, Asus Tranformer Ifinity TF-701, Samsung Note 10.1 2014.
I am happy with this new tablet, since some selfish bastard broke into my house and stole my TF-701. This tablet by far has the best resolution, and the best display of all I have owned. The light bleed is minimal compared to the nexus 7s.
Maybe I got a good one, or I have just gotten used to light bleed on larger formats.
I would recommend this tablet, as long as you are comfortable with Touchwiz, and Samsung's way of doing things.
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It looks wonderful but mine had severe light bleeding, 6 distinct spots at left side, 4 at bottom, nothing symmetrical about them. Getting one from John lewis tomorrow hoping I will be lucky ☺

evak2979 said:
It looks wonderful but mine had severe light bleeding, 6 distinct spots at left side, 4 at bottom, nothing symmetrical about them. Getting one from John lewis tomorrow hoping I will be lucky ☺
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New unit light bleed as well. 5 spots at bottom (which i didn't really mind, small ones), big one at top though...
Let's see how the next one does. I'll be getting a note, for sure. But I want to get bang for my buck Thank God for John Lewis return service, so let's see...
P.S. Whomever stated that Ipad air is superior to this device is a moron like no other...

I just picked one up about 2 hours ago from Brandsmart. With the display at 100% on a black background it has 6 at the bottom. It looks like small spot lights shinning up. It's charging now but if I notice it with normal use I will return it. I also have the tab 3 10.1 I got for Xmas. It had a few bad spots so I swapped it out. Now I'm good to go. Some are just worse then others. Kind of like women
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Peeodee said:
I just picked one up about 2 hours ago from Brandsmart. With the display at 100% on a black background it has 6 at the bottom. It looks like small spot lights shinning up. It's charging now but if I notice it with normal use I will return it. I also have the tab 3 10.1 I got for Xmas. It had a few bad spots so I swapped it out. Now I'm good to go. Some are just worse then others. Kind of like women
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Look at this :/
I am going to try a couple more times and then give up altogether.
P.S., this is the second one., compared to my new N 7 2013. First was FAR worse. Seeing this comparison I think I'll pass on the excuse that lightbleeding is part of the LCD technology

evak2979 said:
Look at this :/
I am going to try a couple more times and then give up altogether.
P.S., this is the second one., compared to my new N 7 2013. First was FAR worse. Seeing this comparison I think I'll pass on the excuse that lightbleeding is part of the LCD technology
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Whatever note you get you will get light bleed, but don't see the problem if it isn't noticeable in normal use, I never sit in dark room with the brightness full with a black screen, do u?
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reubenskelly1992 said:
Whatever note you get you will get light bleed, but don't see the problem if it isn't noticeable in normal use, I never sit in dark room with the brightness full with a black screen, do u?
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It was visible watching a movie full brightness in a lit room, and very noticeable at 40% brightness in a dark room. For 450 pounds I definitely have a problem with it especially since my travelling budget device (199 pounds) out performs with same style of panel...

evak2979 said:
It was visible watching a movie full brightness in a lit room, and very noticeable at 40% brightness in a dark room. For 450 pounds I definitely have a problem with it especially since my travelling budget device (199 pounds) out performs with same style of panel...
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Mine is fine. At 100% brightness on a black background it shows a little on some angles but watching movies or viewing pics it's not bleeding into the screen.
Yeah yours looked bad.
Good luck

Peeodee said:
Mine is fine. At 100% brightness on a black background it shows a little on some angles but watching movies or viewing pics it's not bleeding into the screen.
Yeah yours looked bad.
Good luck
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Thanks mate I am glad you got a good unit....3 pieces inc tomorrow. 3 pieces. One has to be good !!!

evak2979 said:
Thanks mate I am glad you got a good unit....3 pieces inc tomorrow. 3 pieces. One has to be good !!!
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Here's mine at 100%

Grainy screen

Hi guys
I have been struggling with the screen on my phone and i want to know if its only me who is having the grainy screen or there are more people having the same issue. Any solid color on the phone appear to be noisy and dirty. People in google are persisting that this is one of the characteristics of the screen and is normal. I cant believe that.
I have had one RMA and the second XL is the same as the first one, first device was shipped from the factory on 31 October and the second one on 31 november.
Should i stop overlooking this issue and live with it or should i push for another RMA?

Compared to my Note 8, the Pixel 2 XL is indeed grainy, however I found it's only noticeable on white/light gray backgrounds, and is hardly noticeable above 35% brightness. My friend's Pixel 2 XL is the same way so I assume this is "normal" for this phone.

The display is a grainy piece of ****. Had 4 phones, all the same, all noticeable even at max brightness on white backgrounds. Makes the screen look like paper. Photos look noisier when viewed on the phone as a result too. If it bothers you, best move onto a new phone.

I've heard the reports of a grainy screen. I've seen 5 Pixel 2 XLs (3 in a Verizon store, mine and a co-workers) and none of them have been grainy.

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I've heard the reports of a grainy screen. I've seen 5 Pixel 2 XLs (3 in a Verizon store, mine and a co-workers) and none of them have been grainy.
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That's a different news. There is also another fact that its not visible if you don't really look for it on my phone but when you see the grain there is no way back. That's when you would say ignorance is a bliss. Still i would like to hear more from others if there is noise (i rather call it noise) on the screen or not.

Guyinlaca said:
Compared to my Note 8, the Pixel 2 XL is indeed grainy, however I found it's only noticeable on white/light gray backgrounds, and is hardly noticeable above 35% brightness. My friend's Pixel 2 XL is the same way so I assume this is "normal" for this phone.
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Thanks for your reply im more interested to look into differences in grain visibility on pixel 2 xl's, because i have read very uneven comparisons for the same device and none is consistent. Some say they see it some say they don't. I can see the grain in all situations with 20% brightness and also with 100%, if there are some cases which phones are grainless (if that's even a word) i would like to report this to google. In your case all of what you have seen are dirty AF. ( They call it dirty screen effect on tv's)

I had 2 Pixel 2 XL over the last 3 weeks. 1st one did not have any noticeable grainy screen. Had to exchange for spontaneous reboots.
The 2nd Pixel I have now suffers from what you are describing, the graininess is notable from minimum to maximum brightness most pronounced on light grey and white backgrounds. In main setting menu, scrolling black text on white background such as websites and YouTube comments. In fact, this is noticeable to me on the 1st setup screen when you power on a new Pixel the 1st time. My looks like snowflake of old CRT screen, or using a matte screen protector. Unfortunately, it is very difficult to capture with any camera I have.
There are couple of long threads here you can search for grainy screen, and you will find few posts on it.
Check out Ars Technica's pictures of the grainy screen.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...view-the-best-android-phone-you-can-buy/2/#h3
Here is Erica Griffin from YouTube on the same issue (6:40):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JjbMT_x6CM&t=503s
Both of my Pixels was manufactured on 13/11/17, and they also have different degree where blue shift becomes apparent, so I think it is a pure luck if the next Pixel's screen you get might not have a grainy screen that you will notice.
At this point, from all my research it seems most screen of the Pixel 2 XL will have some imperfections compared to latest Samsung screens find in iPhone, Galaxy, OnePlus and the smaller Pixel 2. This is due to the immaturity of LG's OLED screen technology and the lack of any batch or individual screen calibration at the factory.
For me, the whole package of smooth UI and fastest security updates means I will overlook the Pixel's screen imperfection compared the my Galaxy S8+. But it does irk me for Google to charge similar price as Galaxy/Note and iPhone, when they know they can not provide a visual experience anywhere close to those phones. Even the OnePlus 5T I compared in store have a much better screen in terms of non-graininess, lack of pronounced blue shift and maximum brightness.

This is a bummer. The grainyness on mine is faint, but definitely there. Kinda wish I hadn't noticed it but in all honesty I kinda wondered why some pics didn't look quite as good on my phone as they do on my wife's pixel 2. I made trade this for a pixel 2 and be done with it.

Don't have this issue. I prefer gray wallpapers and I don't see this issue. I just tried looking at all white wallpapers and didn't see this issue either. Over on Android Central there seem to be a few people with this issue but the vast majority do not seem to have it and/or notice it.

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Don't have this issue. I prefer gray wallpapers and I don't see this issue. I just tried looking at all white wallpapers and didn't see this issue either. Over on Android Central there seem to be a few people with this issue but the vast majority do not seem to have it and/or notice it.
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I think for the majority it may be more about not noticing as opposed to not having the issue.

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I think for the majority it may be more about not noticing as opposed to not having the issue.
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Perhaps. I see it on a couple wallpapers here and there but it's rare - but I believe those are just not high rez enough for this screen. That graininess commonly happens when resolution of the image is lower than that of the screen it's being displayed on as far as I know.

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I think for the majority it may be more about not noticing as opposed to not having the issue.
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That is what i also think is happening because i tried to check how many would notice the grain on my phone this friday. The baits were my friends. And only one noticed it. The rest noticed after i told them what to look for.
It is really a shame for google to think they would be able to compete with pixel 2 xl in such a tough market with thus screen and the price tag. I had high hopes for this phone and i have waited for so long to buy a pixel.
Anyways i received an email from a high level supervisor in google's hardware department saying:
"I am sorry for the inconvenience caused to you due to this. As I can see that the phone is working as intended and there is no issue with the device. In this case, we cannot process a replacement for the device. If you want, we can go ahead and check for the refund options of the device. "
Now i want to see what other phone you guys would think i can replace this with. I cant deal with Samsung's bloatware so no S8 or S8+ or note 8 please.

I notice it on white backgrounds but then I realized it's an overlay and it looks grainy because the screensaver shows through a bit on app drawers and such.
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cyber_b_u_g said:
That is what i also think is happening because i tried to check how many would notice the grain on my phone this friday. The baits were my friends. And only one noticed it. The rest noticed after i told them what to look for.
It is really a shame for google to think they would be able to compete with pixel 2 xl in such a tough market with thus screen and the price tag. I had high hopes for this phone and i have waited for so long to buy a pixel.
Anyways i received an email from a high level supervisor in google's hardware department saying:
"I am sorry for the inconvenience caused to you due to this. As I can see that the phone is working as intended and there is no issue with the device. In this case, we cannot process a replacement for the device. If you want, we can go ahead and check for the refund options of the device. "
Now i want to see what other phone you guys would think i can replace this with. I cant deal with Samsung's bloatware so no S8 or S8+ or note 8 please.
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I'm thinking of getting the Pixel 2, if I do decide to replace my 2 XL. It really is a fantastic phone other than the screen. Right now I'm trying to decide how's much the screen bothers me.

cyber_b_u_g said:
That's a different news. There is also another fact that its not visible if you don't really look for it on my phone but when you see the grain there is no way back. That's when you would say ignorance is a bliss. Still i would like to hear more from others if there is noise (i rather call it noise) on the screen or not.
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On the 3 in the Verizon store and my co-worker's I didn't have much time to look under lots of different conditions but on my own I've actually tried to see if. Different colored backgrounds, scrolling on white, different brightness levels, etc. Basically any situations people mentioned and still nothing. Besides the minor blue tint at off angle viewing (which I don't do anyways) I think the screen looks fantastic.

I somehow made a decision to go with the original pixel 2 xl (htc u11+) it has almost the same specs but 128gb, 6gb ram same cpu. Great screen.performance should be on par. It should be fine. What do you guys think?

cyber_b_u_g said:
I somehow made a decision to go with the original pixel 2 xl (htc u11+) it has almost the same specs but 128gb, 6gb ram same cpu. Great screen.performance should be on par. It should be fine. What do you guys think?
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Seems like a great device. Personally I'm going to stick with the Pixel experience if I trade my phone in. I'd rather have a smaller screen with all the benefits of a pixel than something outside of the Pixel line

It is what it is. If you can't live with it, then it's time to move on :d.

Screen is fine to me. Yeah it's not the best. But if you get a decent one it's good. The grain is there but only noticeable if you stick to the screen to your face and look out for it
If you see it in normal use I would say its a faulty screen

Just entered the phone lottery with a request for RMA. Leaving the Verizon store very reassured. The display on their demo model, while it had some blue shift, had no graininess. I couldn't believe how terrible my screen looked compared to the floor model. Fingers crossed I get a good one.

Why I'm returning my S20 FE 5G

I have now had my phone for a little less than 3 days, and I've been happy with the speed it' blazingly much faster than my OnePlus 7T pro. It seems that I forgot my most important task when I buy a new phone: Test the screen quality on grey backgrounds.
One the 2nd day I noticed a faint white bar going through the middle of the screen while using spotify, so this morning I tested my trusty grey backgrounds, and one of them in particular had a nice/shocking result. One the left we see my OP7T with perfect color rendition, on the right the S20 FE that shows a brownish mess with lines going all over the place. I'm sorry for the bad quality cause this was taken on an aging Nokia 7 Plus and I couldn't make the picture sharp no matter what, but it gets the point across.
I did my research. I watched all tech youtubers of note reviews/comment on this phone and I thought since this phone is largely based off of the Galaxy A51 I thought they had the production figured out. But nope.
3 years ago this wouldn't have been as much of a problem, but since I use dark mode all over the place now, I just see these lines all the time, and once you see, you cannot unsee.

Multitouch issue. I have tested another one but same problem. Finally flagship with Snapdragon for EU. But sorry the phone is not complete.

omg it's not a problem you can disenable that line .

I use dark mode and low brightness settings indoors, I've not encountered this banding. I know that if you video the screen on low brightness you can see the screen pulsing but that's not a use case I'm going to deal with.

General First impressions - not great

So 2 days in, some real life testing and me not liking. Here's why:
Firstly, I noticed that the screen is yellowy, it's not pure white like you'd find from the S21 phones for example. It's minor but it bothers - like a niggling suspicious this phone can't manage the basics. White isn't white. Reality is overrated. [edit, so ok this might be a setting issue]
Secondly, taking photos of white surfaces in darker rooms and white turns blue. I don't mean, faintly tinged, I mean blue!
The phone is well balanced in the hand (unlike the S21U), however it feels very plasticy and cheaply built. Something about putting the power button above the volume rocker is not nice after 3 years with Samsung phones which are the other way around.
So, the camera AI is good, photo's look on the surface to generally be good quality. Noise is well handled by the AI but zoom in and you seen there's a lots of smoothing on a minute level. This is the sole Pixel win over the S21U in my opinion. [edit: watch out for 'bars' of 'noise' in photos though and random white balance issues - the latter is probably not as bad as Samsung's over HDR/WB saturation though]
The 5G modem, ow god, this is awful. I know, because I have a Samsung with the same modem and good look having working connectivity where the 5G signal is sub par - the phone should drop 5G and revert to more reliable 4G but it doesn't. You just end up with a dead connection. Walk around and experience disconnection from your digital world.
Why the feck can I not turn off 5G, I mean the preference option just isn't there. In no way. If your carriers 5G or 4G network flakes out, you are screwed. How dare you think of manually swapping to another technology to stay connected. Silly, stupid, user. Google (and your carrier) knows best... ergh
VoLTE/4G calling seems flaky on some networks - EE UK - well, you can't. They blame Google, Google blame EE. Good luck with that.
Make sure to cover your eyes when using the finger print reader in the dark too - it's optical/super cheap so it is the brightest light you'll ever see. I have notice one of my blood vessel is bit blocked. Great medical device. A++
I really wanted to love the Pixel 6 Pro. I have lived with a sub par S21U for 9 months. I thought it was lots of marketting spin and less substance. I was wrong. I'm a Samsung fanboi forever now. They can throw me their *(£" and I'll happily lap it up after this massive disappointment.
It'll improve with software updates. Just hold on. These are just the typical usual new problems.... yeah, after 5 years of hearing the same old crappy excuses by manufacturers, I think I'll go with my gut this time.
Hey, Google, where's my refund?!

The fingerprint reader alone is why this is going back. Holy Christ. What were they thinking? If their goal was to create a bunch of eWaste then they succeeded.

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So 2 days in, some real life testing and me not liking. Here's why:
Firstly, I noticed that the screen is yellowy, it's not pure white like you'd find from the S21 phones for example. It's minor but it bothers - like a niggling suspicious this phone can't manage the basics. White isn't white. Reality is overrated.
Secondly, taking photos of white surfaces in darker rooms and white turns blue. I don't mean, faintly tinged, I mean blue!
The phone is well balanced in the hand (unlike the S21U), however it feels very plasticy and cheaply built. Something about putting the power button above the volume rocker is not nice after 3 years with Samsung phones which are the other way around.
So, the camera AI is good, photo's look on the surface to generally be good quality. Noise is well handled by the AI but zoom in and you seen there's a lots of smoothing on a minute level. This is the sole Pixel win over the S21U in my opinion.
The 5G modem, ow god, this is awful. I know, because I have a Samsung with the same modem and good look having working connectivity where the 5G signal is sub par - the phone should drop 5G and revert to more reliable 4G but it doesn't. You just end up with a dead connection. Walk around and experience disconnection from your digital world.
Why the feck can I not turn off 5G, I mean the preference option just isn't there. In no way. If your carriers 5G or 4G network flakes out, you are screwed. How dare you think of manually swapping to another technology to stay connected. Silly, stupid, user. Google (and your carrier) knows best... ergh
VoLTE/4G calling seems flaky on some networks - EE UK - well, you can't. They blame Google, Google blame EE. Good luck with that.
Make sure to cover your eyes when using the finger print reader in the dark too - it's optical/super cheap so it is the brightest light you'll ever see. I have notice one of my blood vessel is bit blocked. Great medical device. A++
I really wanted to love the Pixel 6 Pro. I have lived with a sub par S21U for 9 months. I thought it was lots of marketting spin and less substance. I was wrong. I'm a Samsung fanboi forever now. They can throw me their *(£" and I'll happily lap it up after this massive disappointment.
It'll improve with software updates. Just hold on. These are just the typical usual new problems.... yeah, after 5 years of hearing the same old crappy excuses by manufacturers, I think I'll go with my gut this time.
Hey, Google, where's my refund?!
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I got my P6 Pro today and would like to add something to a few of your points
1. My screen white is white, maybe your panel sucks?
2. Jea, the blue tint is well known in low light shots. Also visible in several reviews. Many phones go yellowish, googles algorithms goes blueish.
3. I actually prefer the power button above the volume rocker, so that's personal taste.
4. The smoothing comes from the Super Rez Zoom algorithm
5+6: Not sure if it's your provider, but I can set my preferred network, I can tell the phone to prefer either 5G, 4G, 3G or 2G.

my screen was yellow until i changed wallpaper settings to basic colour options and it became white.

Funny how people can view the same thing so differently but some of these are simply not true.
You can change network type away from 5G, first thing I did.
Samsung panels are absolutely not colour accurate to compare against.
Some of the other things are subjective. Build quality I think is great, my unit is as well built as any Samsung, iphone or One Plus I have owned.

Lol that post about not turning off 5g! Seriously...look at what you can actually do before mentioning something so basic.
Secondly power button location different to Samsung is not a fault it's a design choice and your preference. All my OnePlus phones had power above volume also.

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Lol that post about not turning off 5g! Seriously...look at what you can actually do before mentioning something so basic.
Secondly power button location different to Samsung is not a fault it's a design choice and your preference. All my OnePlus phones had power above volume also.
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Oneplus phones have the volume on the left and the power on the right with the alert slider. Been that way since at least the 5. Seems like you would know this before mentioning something so basic LOL.

The blue in photo taken in a dark room is a WB issue most likely and/or there simply wasn't enough light in the red spectrum vs blue when shot.
May or may not be a defect or software glitch.
Samsung actually puts a lot of effort into their UI.
It looks and acts nothing like a Pixel. Samsung's stock customization is second to none with hundreds of free customization apps, themes and icon packs. I saw nothing released this year I wanted; display problems, 5G issues, major Android 11/12 fubars, and no SD card slot on most of the flagships.
So... fk it, got a 2nd new N10+ 4G Snapdragon running on 10. No regrets.

If on AT&T, you do not get to choose between 4g lte or 5g. The option is not available. AT&T forces you onto 5g.

GohanBurner said:
The fingerprint reader alone is why this is going back. Holy Christ. What were they thinking? If their goal was to create a bunch of eWaste then they succeeded.
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What's wrong with it? I've used mine for almost 24 hours now and I have not had it fail a single time. I added each finger twice.

It's not that it's broken, it's that it's annoying. It's slow as hell compared to my 4a 5Gs traditional FPR and it lights up like a Christmas tree Everytime you use it. No thanks.

I have multiple fingers saved, it fails more times than it succeeds

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Samsung panels are absolutely not colour accurate to compare against.
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P6 Pro screen is a Samsung panel too.

About these fingerprint sensors.... unlike a knowledge-based password or pattern, biometric data is NOT protected by the US 5th amendment or laws in other jurisdictions that protect you against self-incrimination.
Nothing to hide? Then don't need a security lock to begin with, so its a non-starter if you try to argue that.

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P6 Pro screen is a Samsung panel too.
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You sure about that? Might be. However in general what they mean is as found on phones with a samsucks label on them. They calibrate them in a more cartoonish manner.

had some issues at first when I was setting up but after the update i deleted the scans and re did them. Not one issue unlocking since.

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had some issues at first wheni was setting uo but after the update i deleted the scans and re did them. Not one issue unlocking since.
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I guess I need this update. I've redone the print unlock several times for my left thumb, and a couple for my right. Still pretty bad. I've checked for an update a couple times, and nothing.

thetonyclifton said:
Funny how people can view the same thing so differently but some of these are simply not true.
You can change network type away from 5G, first thing I did.
Samsung panels are absolutely not colour accurate to compare against.
Some of the other things are subjective. Build quality I think is great, my unit is as well built as any Samsung, iphone or One Plus I have owned.
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Not on mine you can't. I guess it's poor of carrier to stick that in their configuration and even worse for Google to enable the option in the first place...
The screen colour might be rectified as advised - the colour of photos on the Pixel 6 is more realistic but then the white balance is a lottery. [not that Samsung are great at it either of course!]

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I guess I need this update. I've redone the print unlock several times for my left thumb, and a couple for my right. Still pretty bad. I've checked for an update a couple times, and nothing.
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You might have a dud. Mine is better than the Samsung one (but hey, I last set up that like 6 months ago) but the light. Ow, the blinding light. I don't want to see the composition of my thumb each time I want to unlock the phone!

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I read this in several posts too. I guess Samsung is the largest producer of screen now... even Apple have used them IIRC.