Any Regrets - Sony Smartwatch 3

I'm looking to finally pick up a smart watch and at this point I'm heavily leaning towards the sw3. Any regrets with choosing the Sony? Also considering the Zenwatch.
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Same here

no regrets
No regrets here at the moment. Software support to GPS and Bluetooth HR will come, but takes time.

Would recommend
After a month using it, would definitely buy again. The apps I'm using most are the music player and the gps, both stand alone. Can't wait for a proper app to make use of the gps while running.

After 3 days using
So far so good...
Still learning how to squeeze the battery juice to the max for 2 days usage.
My opinion for purchase, just follow ur heart.

chinfong said:
So far so good...
Still learning how to squeeze the battery juice to the max for 2 days usage.
My opinion for purchase, just follow ur heart.
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Only regret is that google is taking too dam long to release updates. This watch may get 3 day battery life with android wear 5.0, as they are saying the moto360 is increasing 1+ day. Plus, if they could support offline actions, the onboard wifi, BLTE profiles, this would be killer

So far it delivers on the main features I bought it for (decent waterproofing, standalone GPS & ability to listen to music without having to cart my phone about).
General Comments would be:
Offline GPS tracking is getting there (I'm on the Runkeeper beta) and will only get better as more apps support it.
Standalone music playback is solid, although a bit slow getting music on the device.
USB charging port is fine albeit a bit fiddly. That said I much prefer it to a proprietary charging mechanism.
It's early days for android wear so my expectations were low on that front, but I've been pleasantly surprised at how genuinely useful some of the features are even at this early stage in the evolution of the platform.

jughead17 said:
I'm looking to finally pick up a smart watch and at this point I'm heavily leaning towards the sw3. Any regrets with choosing the Sony? Also considering the Zenwatch.
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No regrets, the transflective LCD tech is really a great concept, and this comes from someone who despises LCD but on a smartwatch I think the transflectiveness is better than OLED. I think the sw3 is the only AW device with this kind of screen.
Choosing the sw3 is the best way to future proof since it is the only AW device with gps at the moment and AFAIK the only one with a Wi-Fi chip. Wi-fi support is in the works for AW.

But...... the price to pay is no color on dim mode, with transflectif only monochrome when all another wear can display mono or color in dim mode. I have a SW2 with transflective display and it is very sad and as it is in dim mode 90% of the time it is sad 90% of the time

dersie said:
But...... the price to pay is no color on dim mode, with transflectif only monochrome when all another wear can display mono or color in dim mode. I have a SW2 with transflective display and it is very sad and as it is in dim mode 90% of the time it is sad 90% of the time
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It reminds me of my pebble :3

nobunnysapro said:
It reminds me of my pebble :3
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And I have also a pebble (And LG G-Watch and R-Watch, and Sony SW1 (and LiveView))

Dersie which is your favorite of your watches?
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No regrets
IP68 + GPS + 420mAh battery + transflective screen. It fits perfectly my needs.
Sooner there will be GPS apps for android wear, golden era of SW3 is comming.

dersie said:
But...... the price to pay is no color on dim mode, with transflectif only monochrome when all another wear can display mono or color in dim mode. I have a SW2 with transflective display and it is very sad and as it is in dim mode 90% of the time it is sad 90% of the time
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dersie said:
But...... the price to pay is no color on dim mode, with transflectif only monochrome when all another wear can display mono or color in dim mode. I have a SW2 with transflective display and it is very sad and as it is in dim mode 90% of the time it is sad 90% of the time
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Yes but isn't daylight visibility important on a watch? It is winter and dark most of the day here now but I imagine that this will be very nice on a bright summer day.
They might be able to use OLEDs with white sub pixels on future models or some kind of e ink hybrid solution but we're not there yet.

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Yes but isn't daylight visibility important on a watch? It is winter and dark most of the day here now but I imagine that this will be very nice on a bright summer day.
They might be able to use OLEDs with white sub pixels on future models or some kind of e ink hybrid solution but we're not there yet.
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Yes you are right but 98% of time I want to look at clock I'm indoor mostly dark room, and not many time in sunlight. So 98% of time it is better to have display emitted light. So often even with transflective display I must backlight the watch and with OLED nothing todo, allways able to see even in total dark without touch the watch.
With OLED even in full sunlight you can view your watch if you select for outdoor clock with dark hand and white background like :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3dhZYESs_5bZ2hHc3JKNDNhVnM/view?usp=sharing
or also I tried this :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3dhZYESs_5bQ3k1anpGdVFmNkk/view?usp=sharing
only with brightness 2 (and we can setup up to 6).
I think if you have a clear backgroung you can see very well the black numbers even with sun in the display.

hellos
I am interested in this watch but I was wondering if it was suitable for sports because it semnble me that there is no built-in heart monitor. there you it suddenly solutions for cardiac rytme?

ced360 said:
hellos
I am interested in this watch but I was wondering if it was suitable for sports because it semnble me that there is no built-in heart monitor. there you it suddenly solutions for cardiac rytme?
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Just take your pulse with your fingers. Just as easy to do an probably more accurate than any of these devices with hr monitors built in.
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ced360 said:
hellos
I am interested in this watch but I was wondering if it was suitable for sports because it semnble me that there is no built-in heart monitor. there you it suddenly solutions for cardiac rytme?
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The sw3 has bt but I don't think you can pair it with a hrm at the moment. Maybe some app will support it in the future
tu3218 said:
Just take your pulse with your fingers. Just as easy to do an probably more accurate than any of these devices with hr monitors built in.
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Maybe not the most convenient method while e.g. running. In fact I think it would be impossible with all that movement.

jughead17 said:
Dersie which is your favorite of your watches?
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The most beautiful is the LG-R but wear is not very successful and very very very....... poor notification system. The most useable is by far the Sony SW2.
SW2 : a lot of app, all works well, notification 10/10, vibration 10/10, battery 10/10 always ON (between 3 at 5 days), many many watchface and can customize your face with what you would.
(I have also SmartQ ZWatch and Wimm-One)

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Considering a return because of the ambient screen :(

It's a shame really, since I love EVERYTHING else about this watch - good price, snappy processor, GPS, WiFi (not even sure what that will bring eventually), NFC.
But with this thing serving primarily as a watch on my wrist, I just can't stand the ambient screen. From pretty much any angle it is a low-contrast, mustard-y yellow.
I'm looking at the LG R watch now. It's $50 more, and is missing a bunch of features, but the screen is GREAT. :'-(
I really wanted to like this watch! Please XDA, talk me into keeping it!!
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loneBoat said:
It's a shame really, since I love EVERYTHING else about this watch - good price, snappy processor, GPS, WiFi (not even sure what that will bring eventually), NFC.
But with this thing serving primarily as a watch on my wrist, I just can't stand the ambient screen. From pretty much any angle it is a low-contrast, mustard-y yellow.
I'm looking at the LG R watch now. It's $50 more, and is missing a bunch of features, but the screen is GREAT. :'-(
I really wanted to like this watch! Please XDA, talk me into keeping it!!
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The LG P-OLED screen can burn in... Otherwise I possibly had bought it aswell.
I love the sw3 and especially the ambient mode screen and GPS. Its looks like a compromise between a e-ink and LCD..
But maybe it's a kind of different tastes.
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The LG P-OLED screen can burn in... Otherwise I possibly had bought it aswell
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Good point about the burn-in. I just searched over on the LG R watch forums and there's some horror stories of burn-in after just a week. :-o That may be a deal-breaker for me.
Hah! You may have talked me into staying on SW3 just as I requested - thanks! :highfive:
It's a garbage screen on a first-gen looking product. I returned mine for the same reason.
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It's a garbage screen on a first-gen looking product. I returned mine for the same reason.
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I haven't gotten mine yet but have played with it in store. I wouldn't say it's garbage. Is it on par with other android wear devices? Probably not. However, just as another user stated above, its sort of a mix between e ink and color. It seems to be helping to deliver great battery life with it too. Also, with the update it seems you guys can turn off the feature of activating the screen arm movement. So with this screen you can leave it on always on mode and still be able to see the screen without killing battery. All the android wear devices are first gen tech, but the Sony SW 3 still offers so much more than any of the other watches. For that, I can certainly deal with the screen negatives. Even though it does offer positives so its not completely bad, therefore back to my point that I wouldn't call it garbage.
I like the screen...in my office or while outdoor, I can look at it at any time and almost any angle and can see the time w/o artifiially tilting my arm, or pressing a button. The screen is always on and I get easly 2 days...that is worth a lot to me. My 2 cents....
No matter how you look at it the pro's outweigh the con's.And if you can't live with then just return it and I'll keep mine.
techrider6262 said:
No matter how you look at it the pro's outweigh the con's.And if you can't live with then just return it and I'll keep mine.
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+1 :good:
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djgodlike said:
The LG P-OLED screen can burn in... Otherwise I possibly had bought it aswell.
I love the sw3 and especially the ambient mode screen and GPS. Its looks like a compromise between a e-ink and LCD..
But maybe it's a kind of different tastes.
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Good point. It's a major flaw of OLED screen. SW3's transflective screen is the perfect choice for ambient mode. It's more readable in bright sunlight. Honestly, transflective LCD is born for outside activities.
I got my first SW3. The screen is too yellow with a small dark spot at the bottom of the screen. I returned it immediately and now the 2nd one is really good.
I disagree. Try taking your smartphone and let the sun shine on the screen (or a bright lamp) and lower the brightness. The whites and blacks will be very similar in color to the SW3's screen. I'm currently using the Odyssey watchface and sometimes it takes a while for the full watchface to turn on so I get the opportunity to seen the ambient screen with the backlight on. Whites are white on it. What I would like is for the ambient light sensor to turn on the backlight at minimal brightness in low light conditions.
my device is very white. It is of course no OLED screen that are over saturated mostly but i definetly see no yellow tint there on white (maybe a really tiny bit more yellowish but really nothing i notice at all in normal use).
And having the watch always on is such a huge + in my opinion. Yes you can't see the screen in low light situations. But honestly.
People are never happy. When the backlight would be always on some people would complain that the watch is always making light in the dark.
(which would annoy me probably more)
If you want correctly displayed colors you would need to calibrate your screens.
Who does that for home usage here?
It's definitely not first gen. I had first gen smartwatch from Sony, this one is ten times better
I would like the option for a low backlight on low light (current low backlight settings are too bright to begin with). I suppose that's what custom ROMs/root apps are for.
I like it on mine. The default faces are pretty bad on it in ambient mode, but I built ones for it on Facer that make it really easy to read.
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I would like the option for a low backlight on low light (current low backlight settings are too bright to begin with). I suppose that's what custom ROMs/root apps are for.
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I'm not sure if you had something like this in mind ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57615301 ) ...but I'm using this app and it lets me lower the brightness down to where it's much more comfortable for using my watch in bed at night. The developer is letting us try it out for free until 12/21... but I went ahead and bought it for a buck from the Play Store.
Grown to love ambient mode, except for complete darkness I can read the watch fine.
I have a Gear Live, try to go out in the sun and read the time, this watch no problem.
I purchased Facer, made myself a digital watch face with huge numbers that makes the watch even more visible in direct sun
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I disagree. Try taking your smartphone and let the sun shine on the screen (or a bright lamp) and lower the brightness. The whites and blacks will be very similar in color to the SW3's screen. I'm currently using the Odyssey watchface and sometimes it takes a while for the full watchface to turn on so I get the opportunity to seen the ambient screen with the backlight on. Whites are white on it. What I would like is for the ambient light sensor to turn on the backlight at minimal brightness in low light conditions.
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Agreed! I live in Florida (the sunshine state) and spend lots of time outdoors. Our days are long, it's almost always sunny, and the sun is INTENSE! I got this watch specifically because of this display. Try reading an OLED display outdoors in Florida sun. Even my Note4 with its high-brightness outdoor mode is barely readable. Yet my SW3 is clear as day, with or without the backlight. Yes, it definitely doesn't look as pretty indoors as the OLED screens, but for my use its perfect. Not like I'm watching movies on it or anything. I'm glad Sony decided to carry over the transflective tech from the SW2...it was a bold move but it's one of the things that sets this product apart. If you don't like it, there are plenty of competing products on the market.
I just wish there was a way to disable the backlight under any ambient light conditions, like my SW2. One of the firmware updates for the SW2 introduced a smarter backlight that stayed off, even when in use, when there was enough ambient light, like outdoors. While it makes no difference in appearance, it helps conserve battery.
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Good point. It's a major flaw of OLED screen. SW3's transflective screen is the perfect choice for ambient mode. It's more readable in bright sunlight. Honestly, transflective LCD is born for outside activities.
I got my first SW3. The screen is too yellow with a small dark spot at the bottom of the screen. I returned it immediately and now the 2nd one is really good.
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Transflective screens are also installed on all Garmin outdoor standalone GPS: if you want a well readable screen on EVERY situation you need a transfective.... NOT a AMOLED.
Amoled is much contrasted and wonderful on artificial light or on low natural light, but is a pain during summer outdoor activity (and need maximum power consumption to be barely readable)
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Transflective screens are also installed on all Garmin outdoor standalone GPS: if you want a well readable screen on EVERY situation you need a transfective.... NOT a AMOLED.
Amoled is much contrasted and wonderful on artificial light or on low natural light, but is a pain during summer outdoor activity (and need maximum power consumption to be barely readable)
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The transflective display is one of the big selling points of this watch if you ask me. It's visible in pretty much any light except very low. I don't have to turn the backlight on to see it (saves battery) and it's viewable in direct sunlight. This is a huge plus for anyone taking this thing out for runs or bike rides. I'm a long distance runner and use this watch exclusively for tracking and music, it works great!
The screen on the Sony Smartwatch 3 is the best, hands the fak down!! Always on and viewable, just as watch suppose to be.
Its comical sporting a watch thats turned off until you put it up in front of your grill to turn ON...gayness to the fullest.

SmartWatch 3 is the best, yellow tint workaround

I must say Sony SmartWatch 3 is the best current smart watch as unlike other watches I own (LG G Watch, Samsung Gear S)...
I can use it outside in the sun
I can charge it using simple micro USB at work or simply anywhere without having to worry about charging cradle
I switch it off and power it on without cradle
Wifi!
GPS!
No need for switching to cinema mode when watching movies
As I wrote, it has a button so I can disable the damn touch to wake
Ambient light sensor!
When I first installed my watchface to my brand new SW3 I noticed that the white color looked indeed with yellowish tint while the tiny bit darker shade (#EEEEEE) looked like perfectly shining white. I ended up using this color for SW3 in this watchface. Is it just my mind playing tricks on me (because of all the surrounding black) or is it really white without tint?
This all makes want to try re-style the colors of the system clockwork apk and maybe system styles/colors to this shade.
Have to agree .. all the above points are valid and makes me more happy now. thanks
leojab said:
Have to agree .. all the above points are valid and makes me more happy now. thanks
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you missed out IP68 and NFC
I only notice the yellow, in certain light at a certain angle... its nothing that concerns me in the slightest.
The Smartwatch 3 is definitely the est choice of a smartwatch for a utilitarian...
At least in Sweden, the pricing is very attractive too
I'm happy to read this topic, I've just won the bidding on eBay at $ 128 ☺
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just got it
i also have a gear 2 neo, and screen on sony looks like an old phone screen
viewing angles are rally bad
android wear has a lot more functionality and you are not tight to a brand, but i'm kind of disappointed with screen quality
al404 said:
just got it
i also have a gear 2 neo, and screen on sony looks like an old phone screen
viewing angles are rally bad
android wear has a lot more functionality and you are not tight to a brand, but i'm kind of disappointed with screen quality
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This is kinda on purpose. Sony opted for transflective so it can be used in sunlight very easily. The trade off is the screen quality isn't "as good" as others. But in all honesty I'd rather be able to use it outside. You get used to the yellowing and it becomes barely noticeable.
I wonder if they'll stick with transflective. Anybody know whether it's their own technology?
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I wonder if they'll stick with transflective. Anybody know whether it's their own technology?
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Transflective? No, the version of the screen they use, maybe?
Transflective has been around for a while just always called something different:
BE+: SolarbON
Boe Hydis: Viewiz
Motion Computing: View Anywhere
LG Display: Shine-Out
NEC Displays: ST-NLT
DEMCO CSI: SOLARBON
Pixel Qi: 3Qi
Panasonic: CircuLumin
Getac: QuadraClear
Dell: DirectVue or DirectView.
Sony just calls it by what the technology actually is instead of some fancy name to convince consumers theirs is better.
Since this watch is geared toward sports transflective is the best option to me, saves battery and so much easier to see.. I don't think they will go away from it unless they make multiple versions. Right now I just hope they actually release a Z4c
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Transflective? No, the version of the screen they use, maybe?
Transflective has been around for a while just always called something different:
BE+: SolarbON
Boe Hydis: Viewiz
Motion Computing: View Anywhere
LG Display: Shine-Out
NEC Displays: ST-NLT
DEMCO CSI: SOLARBON
Pixel Qi: 3Qi
Panasonic: CircuLumin
Getac: QuadraClear
Dell: DirectVue or DirectView.
Sony just calls it by what the technology actually is instead of some fancy name to convince consumers theirs is better.
Since this watch is geared toward sports transflective is the best option to me, saves battery and so much easier to see.. I don't think they will go away from it unless they make multiple versions. Right now I just hope they actually release a Z4c
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Interesting, but who does supply the SW3 panel? Basically I'm wondering if the technology is being developed sufficiently to keep up with AMOLED watch screens. SW3 battery life not as good as I expected, I assumed it would be better than the AMOLED watches.
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Interesting, but who does supply the SW3 panel? Basically I'm wondering if the technology is being developed sufficiently to keep up with AMOLED watch screens. SW3 battery life not as good as I expected, I assumed it would be better than the AMOLED watches.
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Hmm I will look into it to see if I can find a manufacturer, I usually take my electronics apart and look at the parts and play with them but I haven't done it to any smartwatches yet... Just haven't had the time.
And your SW3 gets worse battery life than an AMOLED? I haven't seen that personally. My SW3 gets 2 days minimum on a charge. My Zenwatch lucky to get 1, my Gear S can get one with 30% or so left.
There are major bugs affecting battery life, and the sw3 seems more susceptible due to the transflective screen. Right now many people get hours. This is an android bug and not a function of the tech itself. Sony is working on it, but it is making many people myself included rethink the device.
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There are major bugs affecting battery life, and the sw3 seems more susceptible due to the transflective screen.
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On what bloody planet does the screen tech have *anything* to do with the battery drain bug!?!?
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The theory is that our screen stays in ambient mode constantly whereas most people do not let the others stay on so long due to battery drain. On our screen, ambient mode should not use much battery so we use it constantly, but on the other device gives most people leave the always on off because the screen is actually always on.
In ambient mode in addition to the normal mode, the watch is constantly connecting and disconnecting from the phone. This is triggering a drain.
If the screen is off, it is not happening.
It seems logical, but is not my theory. I am just reiterating the chatter on the other thread.
One thing I can say, our watch sleeps differently than other wear watches because of the screen. Therefore we will potentially notice wakelocks differently than them.

Throwing in the towel

2nd generation still has the flat tire display, and it is still 11+mm thick. That kills it for me. Any hope on the Android Wear front? I see Samsung has already thrown in the towel, what with its new fancy-looking Tizen watch. Anything on the horizon?
I'm thinking seriously to shift to huawei watch, its really gorgeous !!, but I'm concerned about it coz it doesn't have ambient sensor and the heart rate cannot be tracked daily ( the wrist heart rates are not accurate; so bahhh). So I'm hesitant between moto 360 2nd gen and the huawei watch, for the samsung watch, i didn't like the tizen os (from my perspectives). U feel that its a beta OS.
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I'm torn between 360 2 a hauwei as well. I like the look on the custom 360's more but the better screen is nice on the Hauwei. Going to wait till the 360 2 is out next week for compare
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I'm thinking seriously to shift to huawei watch, its really gorgeous !!, but I'm concerned about it coz it doesn't have ambient sensor and the heart rate cannot be tracked daily ( the wrist heart rates are not accurate; so bahhh). So I'm hesitant between moto 360 2nd gen and the huawei watch, for the samsung watch, i didn't like the tizen os (from my perspectives). U feel that its a beta OS.
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I'm torn between 360 2 a hauwei as well. I like the look on the custom 360's more but the better screen is nice on the Hauwei. Going to wait till the 360 2 is out next week for compare
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Me too bro, in addition to the market release ,I'm also waiting for some official reviews as c-net, Engadget as well as xda users
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Flat tire is not that big a deal. Lived with it with the 360 v1 and it really never mattered. Went out and grabbed a 42mm Gen2 yesterday, already super happy with it. I'm happy to give your towel a good home.
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Flat tire is not that big a deal. Lived with it with the 360 v1 and it really never mattered. Went out and grabbed a 42mm Gen2 yesterday, already super happy with it. I'm happy to give your towel a good home.
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Yea u r right, the flat tire is not a big deal.. However I'm more leaning for higher screen resolution (400x400), Amoled screen, and sapphire glass, I'm just concerned about sports sensors, many hauwei watch users reported that HR reading is freezing on several sports apps and its not accurate therefore its worthless for sports tracking. I'm still waiting for official reliable reviews to take the decision.
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tafo said:
Yea u r right, the flat tire is not a big deal.. However I'm more leaning for higher screen resolution (400x400), Amoled screen, and sapphire glass, I'm just concerned about sports sensors, many hauwei watch users reported that HR reading is freezing on several sports apps and its not accurate therefore its worthless for sports tracking. I'm still waiting for official reliable reviews to take the decision.
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The HR sensor on the gen1 360 was definitely crap. But on the gen2 so far it's been pretty great. Reports to Google Fit every 5 mins pretty consistently, even. I haven't gone through the exercise of actually doing point by point comparisons with my FitBit Charge HR for consistency, but its definitely in the right ballpark. When I do side by side comparisons of the 2 devices they're pretty close on both HR and pedometer. Not trying to evangelize, just adding a data point for you since there's not much out there on the gen2 360 yet.
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The HR sensor on the gen1 360 was definitely crap. But on the gen2 so far it's been pretty great. Reports to Google Fit every 5 mins pretty consistently, even. I haven't gone through the exercise of actually doing point by point comparisons with my FitBit Charge HR for consistency, but its definitely in the right ballpark. When I do side by side comparisons of the 2 devices they're pretty close on both HR and pedometer. Not trying to evangelize, just adding a data point for you since there's not much out there on the gen2 360 yet.
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Man thanks for ur feedback..this will shift my decision towards moto 360 second gen than huawei watch.
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tafo said:
Yea u r right, the flat tire is not a big deal.. However I'm more leaning for higher screen resolution (400x400), Amoled screen, and sapphire glass, I'm just concerned about sports sensors, many hauwei watch users reported that HR reading is freezing on several sports apps and its not accurate therefore its worthless for sports tracking. I'm still waiting for official reliable reviews to take the decision.
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I wouldn't put too much stock in the Huawei's screen. They seem to be plagued with reddish blacks when displaying what's supposed to be pitch black. I have one, and was impressed with it, until I noticed the faint red glow on black watch faces.
I also have a 360 v2 on order. I thought I would return it in favor of the Huawei's supposedly superior screen, but now I'm not so sure. The Moto may not have pure blacks, and has a faint glow in ambient mode...but at least it's SUPPOSED to. The Huawei isn't.
I wasn't even going to open the 360 before returning it, but now I'll be sure to try it out before I make my decision.

Would you buy one today?

Hey everyone,
So I like to bike maybe once a week and have typically used Map My Ride or Strava to, well, map my rides. But I'm on Project Fi now so am becoming a miser with my data. I was thinking of getting a SW3 and using GhostRacer and the built in GPS to handle that but wanted to see if it is still worth it. I know the 360 Sport is around but the reviews haven't been stellar. Assuming the price is in the $100-$125 range is it still worth it?
I do also go to the gym a couple of days a week so keeping music on the watch and using headphones is a plus as well.
Thanks,
I owned both SW3 and Moto 360 Sport, however I just sold the 360 Sport yesterday because the battery drained on it a lot faster than on the SW3. I prefered the look of the Moto 360 Sport over the SW3 even though I own the SS, Universal strap and silicone strap for the SW3. Both are also water resistant.
Here is a breakdown of pro and cons.
The display of both watches are similar other than round vs square, however the Moto display is a bit nicer with more vibrant colors and while in ambient mode it's in color vs b&w.
Moto 360 Sport also has a built in optical HR monitor SW3 does not.
SW3 has replaceable watch band, infinite combination, Moto 360 Sport comes in White, Black, and Orange and you can not replace the bands.
Again, battery life is night and day better on the SW3 additionally you can charge is with any Micro USB cable vs a proprietary wireless charger. Additionally SW3 charges really fast, almost 2X faster than Moto 360 Sport.
SW3 has built in NFC, you can't do much with it now but future updates may give you more options.
I haven't used either watch with the headphones, so I can't comment on that aspect of the watch.
So I would say go with SW3 and save some money, you'll have no regrets.
Had the SW3 for about 6 months now and I love it. I use it for tracking runs, playing music paired with BT headphones and for keeping track of my appointments. It's great for the price, but I suggest holding out a while longer until announcements for support (or lack thereof) for Android Wear 2.0 come out. Motorola has confirmed it won't be getting the software update for the 1st gen Moto360, so there's a good chance the SW3 won't either..so you might be better off getting one of the newer models. I'm thinking the price might still go down if it won't support AW 2.0, but if it does, at the current price it's a steal.
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Motorola has confirmed it won't be getting the software update for the 1st gen Moto360, so there's a good chance the SW3 won't either..so you might be better off getting one of the newer models.
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Because first gen has bad processor and bad battery.
SW3 has same processor than Moto 2nd gen and other actual wear watch.
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Because first gen has bad processor and bad battery.
SW3 has same processor than Moto 2nd gen and other actual wear watch.
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I won't get my hopes up. It may have the hardware requirements , but seeing as the SW3 was the last of the 1st gen devices to get the recent android update, Sony may not be too keen on putting any more effort into the device. Still a great device for the price it's going for now though, and a good entry point into Android Wear for minimal $. Just bear in mind that when purchasing any piece of tech, it's bound to become obsolete in a year or so, simply because that's how fast technology is evolving. Hardly anything is future-proof these days.
I have this watch for a couple of months now and yes I absolutely love it. Might even buy a second one, for no other reason than having a spare, just in case. I'm sad that smart watches aren't really popular - I'd love to have a SW3 with better hardware and a heart rate sensor - but this watch is great. I use it for stuff like skating and thanks to the great location tracking, I can safely leave my phone at home, and when I'm back it will sync my whole route. This took a looong time the last time I did it, but ok, I rode for 30km so that's probably a lot of data to sync. Now I can see my entire route back on Google Fit. I really love that.
As a sysadmin I also use my watch for easy notifications, and for dispatching tasks to Tasker, using WearTasker. It's great that I don't need to take my phone each time I get a notification. This also applies to when I'm driving - using my phone when I'm on the road is something I absolutely never do, and now, when I get a message, I get it on my watch, so at least I can see if it's something urgent.
The voice capabilities work well enough to also make this a lovable feature.
The rubber wrist band fits nicely. I also bought a, what's the name, the plastic thing in which you can fit a band of your own choice. But I like the rubber band a lot more.
The display works great with a screen protector and the light sensor also works good.
All in all.. what's there not to love about this watch?
Have had mine for about seven months now. Overall I'm very happy with the watch and will probably (hopefully) keep it for a long time.
I'm most impressed by the battery life, which is great, and the durability of the display. I'm very neurotic about my phone's screen, always using tempered glass protectors, but I've worn the SW3 without any kind of screen condom pretty much all the time for over half a year, and the display still looks like brand spanking new. Thing is tough, is what I'm saying.
I just went through all of this myself when my original SW3 broke. I went through all of the available smartwatches and started narrowing them down. I like running but hate taking my phone because of its size (6p). I found an awesome Amazon Warehouse deal on a 360 Sport. The band is a deal breaker. Plain and simple. Its awful. Everything sticks to it and it was uncomfortable for me. This wouldn't be an issue normally, but you cannot replace the band...ever. Also, potential issue with the 360 Sport is IP67 water resistance vs IP68 on the Sony SW3.
I also tried the Samsung Gear S due to its IP68 rating and heart rate. While the fit and finish is above and beyond what the SW3 has to offer, I missed the always-on TFT screen, Wear, Google Now (voice commands work amazingly well), and my customized Watchmaker Premium face (with Tasker integration .
I would still choose the SW3 today due to these things: battery life (2 days not uncommon), TFT display (always on without killing battery-visible in direct sunlight), ambient light sensor (I'm looking at you Huawei and Asus), microUSB charging (yes, it's kinda a pain, but you can charge anywhere-getting a right-angle USB cable helps make it less annoying to plug in), and interchangeable bands (I have 2 bands now. They are comfortable for me and quick clasp). Lack of heart rate does not bother me b/c I don't think any wrist-based HR is accurate enough to matter.
Note: I use my SW3 with headphones all the time. Works great. Syncing music is cake with Play Music, though, since it has USB, I would prefer if it supported MTP and you could just drag and drop whatever straight to the device. Definitely not a problem, just annoying to have to wait for all your offline music to sync over BT.
My main issue with my SW3 is the very very.... poor readability indoor in dim mode. With low light it is very difficult to read. And with only black & white dim mode most of the wear face are very bad. Even the pebble time LCD screen color is much better
Good outdoor 1% of the time but bad indoor 99% of the time.
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My main issue with my SW3 is the very very.... poor readability indoor in dim mode. With low light it is very difficult to read. And with only black & white dim mode most of the wear face are very bad. Even the pebble time LCD screen color is much better
Good outdoor 1% of the time but bad indoor 99% of the time.
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I will say that the LCD in the SW3 is not the best for viewing angles and resolution. However, readability is never an issue for me. The main reason is the ambient light sensor. I tried a Zenwatch 2 (which is a nice watch for the money), but the lack of the ambient light sensor meant the screen was always too dim or too bright. I don't want to fiddle with brightness every time I go outside or back inside. Yes, the always on TFT mode is going not the greatest for inside, but that's not its point. Still, sitting here at my desk under weak, florescent light, I can read it perfectly at a glance. That is another selling point for this watch. It is fairly useful as a watch...lol.
I am bit disappointed with my SW3, or more with Android Wear actually.
Besides notifications I have not been able to find much use for it. I had Pebble for two years and loved the way it handled notifications, with a certain third party app though. IMO Android Wear is quite clumsy and I miss more customisation options especially with the way notifications are handled. My battery lasts about a day and a night. For a smartwatch I guess that is not bad but I do miss Pebble's several days of juice.
So I am not sure if I would buy one now that I have used SW3 for few months...
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Which Smart Watch?
I own the Sony S3 Smartwatch, the Samsung Gear S2 and two Moto 360 2nd generation watches. Yes, I have four smart watches for no reason other than I love gadgets. I also owned the Huawei smart watch for about a week before I exchanged it for a Moto 360. The Huawei is great but I have huge wrists. So the Moto looks best on my wrist. Anyway, I use each watch for different activities. Each watch has it's pros and cons and correlates directly to which activities they are best for. For instance, the Sony Smartwatch has the best waterproof rating. So I wear the Sony to the beach and for playing beach volleyball (any activity with the possibility of submersion). The Sony is also one of the only watches with on-board GPS. That's great when you want to track your movement without lugging the phone around with you. The Samsung Gear S2 is probably the most versatile and it's sort of a hybrid between a sports watch and a casual dinner watch (depends on which band you install). The Samsung works great in every aspect and is probably the best overall performer but you cannot wear it as a luxury piece. It just does not have the look of a luxury piece. That's where the Moto 360 2nd Gen comes into play. The Moto performs great but you don't want to wear it playing beach volleyball. The Moto is designed to look like a luxury time piece and it looks the part. Of course the stock straps with the Moto are absolute garbage. You will want to order good thick leather straps online (or nice stainless steel). Once you have installed the new 3rd party strap your Moto will look very much like a fine time piece similar to a Breitling, Tagheur, Omega, etc.... Then you just need to use the Watchmaker premium app to download hundreds of custom watch faces that resemble luxury time pieces. In conclusion, if you want the smart watch solely for exercise I suggest the Sony S3. If you want a very nice (large) watch that looks like a Rolex I'd suggest the Moto 360 (46 mm). If you want a smart watch for the office and exercising I'd suggest the Samsung Gear S2. Most importantly, all three of these watches are top performers with good processors and great screens. So the only thing that differs greatly is the appearance of the piece itself.

Slow Dimming Display

Hi everyone,
Since I bought my watch there is one thing driving me crazy. When I twist my wrist to open the screen it's opening very slowly. Can I make it sudden like samsung gear s2?
Waiting the watch screen is very annoying.
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Anyone...???
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What version of the watch are you using?
i have the same issue, i have the silver one with the black leather strap running android wear version 1.3.0.2421912. any way to solve this? t.i.a
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What version of the watch are you using?
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Android Wear
1.5.0.2954763
Google Play Services
8.7.01 (2590918-534)
Android OS
6.0.1
These are the all system version informations
So your saying the display turns on slowly from the ambient display? Or the time it takes to go into ambient display?
from ambient mode / black screen to display on mode .
There are only two things I can think of at the moment that could be causing this issue: a third-party watch face that is implementing some kind of fade in/fade out animation during transition (e.g. some WatchMaker watch faces) or there's another application(s) running on the watch that is weighing down the processor. If it's the former, you should be able to switch to another watch face (perhaps a stock one for testing) and the problem should subside. If it's the latter, you could either uninstall any suspect applications and/or perform a factory reset to see if that clears it up.
Totally stock watch with no other apps installed does it. It is the way it works, like it or not. No idea how to change it.
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well i'm using the stock watchface and it still does that, so as Pkt_Lnt suggest, i'll have t learn to live with it
Huh... I guess it's something I haven't really noticed then. How long does it take to transition from dim to display when you finish fully twisting your wrist? For me it's less than a second but not at full brightness. 1.5 seconds at most to full brightness....
Note: this is using the stock blue moon-phase watch face.
I am new to the Huawei watch clan and am coming from Moto360,Urbane and numerous samsung watches. The slow to come on display DRIVES ME CRAZY !! I despise that when I flick my wrist to check the time I have to wait 1-2 seconds for it to SLOWLY faded to bright so i can see it. NO OTHER WATCH I have EVER owned does this, it comes on bright immediately !! Wish I could fix this as its with ANY watch face I use....
Don't really know what to say. Some people who have made their way to the Huawei Watch from other Android Wear models have made the same complaint here and elsewhere. This is my third smartwatch and to be honest, I didn't even notice the display delay until seeing some of these posts. Unfortunately, all Android Wear watches seem to have their advantages and disadvantages. It took me a while to settle on the Huawei Watch and this was based on three items: it has a speaker, it utilizes a sapphire crystal (far more scratch resistant than Gorilla Glass 3) and, in my opinion, the W1 is the best looking Android Wear watch currently available. It didn't suffer any deal-breakers in my opinion so I bought it and haven't regretted it since. If the display speed is a deal-breaker for you, I would suggest returning the watch. Don't know if Huawei plans on changing this behavior and I wouldn't count on it at this point. Everyone's working on the next generation.....
My guess as to why the delay: this is an attempt by Huawei Engineers to conserve a little bit of power and/or they think it looks cool (just like WatchMaker watch faces that utilize fade-in/out effects).

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