Anyone using an Andriod phone with their Note 8.0 utilizing tablet talk and all share app? I have an iphone 5 jailbroken which I use for free tethering however I was thinking of getting an andriod phone to take advantage of tablet talk and all share apps. I had a BB torch with the BB Playbook utilizing the bridging functionality and it was great! Wondering if I will have the same experience if I went all Andriod or Samsung. Any feedback would be greatly aprreciated. THANKS in advance!
I use TabletTalk all the time between my Note 8.0 and DROID Bionic. Unfortunately, in comparison to my Nexus 7,there seems to be more issues. The biggest one are the Bluetooth connection of one of the devices (not sure which one might be both) just kinda stupid working between the two devices. The device need a full reboot to connect. This is less frequent between a WiFi connection but still prevalent none the less.
It really probably had something to do with my phone or ROM though. Even when I Bluetooth tether, the device just craps out eventually.
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I find after X amount of time Bluetooth has to be turned OFF and then ON again for it to actually work. Otherwise e.g. Tablet Talk connection to my S3 will fail, my keyboard won't be able to connect, etc. Don't ya just love Android and Samsung's Bluetooth capabilities? >_<.
Past that I've had no issues, haven't tried audio or tether yet.
AllShare Play / Link works fairly well and unlike the version on my phone, is still able to see regular DLNA devices (without making me go straight to e.g. Video Player or Gallery). Using it with MiniDLNA on Debian stable, it can be confused and refuse to playback some files with a Foo.jpg cover art file assocaited with Foo.m4v, etc. Third party solutions for DLNA are widely available on Google Play.
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In-depth review below, will update in a few days to cover DLNA support and revisit Miracast experience while at home (currently discussing the experience at a university)
The PTV Miracast adapter works as advertised, but isn’t perfect. Miracast functionality works like a charm, but with the same slight delay in most other adapters out there. AirPlay is listed as a feature, but don’t expect it to work. Upon opening the package, I was greeted with a matte black, rubbery dongle that was slightly larger than a USB thumb-drive. Under the cap is the HDMI plug, on the other end are two micro USB ports -- one for power and one to connect a storage drive. On one side of the USB end is a tiny button that doesn’t clearly indicate it’s purpose, but is meant to switch between Miracast connectivity and AirFun mode (see below).
Using this adapter isn’t as intuitive as I would like it to be, but it does work. When you initially plug the device into the HDMI port of the TV and USB power, you’re greeted with the AirFun screen, which is green and black. This screen displays the dongle’s IP address, a url containing the IP address and ending with “/remote,” and what network it’s connecting to. When no network is available, it turns itself into it’s own wireless network to allow you to connect. Visiting http://ipaddress/remote takes you to a web-based remote for the dongle to set it up and control the DLNA features of the device. When connecting to this address from an Android device, it prompts you to download the app for this same control. The app is called AirFun and CORRECTION: is in the Play Store - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.realtek.airfun.client. The app appears to be stored on the dongle itself also. Don't worry much about this app after you've adjusted the settings to your liking. Use another DLNA app for your media, MirrorOP if you wish to take advantage of that, and wait on AirPlay.
Connecting the dongle to wifi is easy, but the first step isn’t apparent. You must first connect your phone or tablet to the wifi hotspot the dongle creates. At this time, you will not have an internet connection and will only be able to connect to the Miracast dongle. The next step is to go to the url containing the ip address that is displayed on your TV or use the app to connect to the device. In the settings, you can choose the wireless network you want to use and enter the password. Once this is completed, the Miracast adapter will disconnect it’s own hotspot, disconnect your phone or tablet from the device, and connect to the wireless network you chose. At this point, you should connect to the same wireless network in order to pair with the device again.
I must share a mistake I had made in hopes of those reading this can learn from it. Do not, under any circumstances, connect to an open wireless network in which you need to visit a web browser to sign in or click and accept button. The Miracast adapter can’t choose to accept a license or enter login information. I did this at the university I work for and found that I could no longer access the dongle for anything relying on wifi, including accessing the settings. I had attempted to disconnect and reconnect, reset, unplug and plug in again the device. As I had already set it to connect to the wifi that requires authentication in a browser, it automatically connected to it every time. I was forced to bring this in a location in which that wireless network was unaccessible so that I could connect directly to the device’s own hotspot and connect it to another network.
Once the wireless connection has been connected to both the PTV dongle and your phone or tablet, you can begin using MirrorOP, DLNA, or AirPlay. Please note that Miracast is connected using different steps which I will discuss later. No wireless connection is needed for Miracast and if this is the sole purpose of using this device, you can ignore the steps above and continue to the section specifically about Miracast. After connecting to wifi, I tested MirrorOP and found that connecting to this worked without issue. The screen mirrored as any other MirrorOP connection does. MirrorOP is an AirPlay-like connection except that it requires a rooted Android device or jailbroken iOS device to connect. It mirrors the screen like AirPlay to a device on the same wireless network. The MirrorOP app needs to be installed on your device to make the connection. Though screen mirroring works, MirrorOP does not support audio mirroring -- the audio will continue to play through your phone or tablet.
Connecting to AirPlay was very disappointing. I attempted to connect to AirPlay both at the university I work at and at home using an iPad on iOS7. In each attempt to connect, the iPad recognized the Miracast dongle as an AirPlay device. When selecting to connect to it, it appeared to work initially. Choosing a photo to display on the AirPlay device, however, proved nothing worked. The photo would not project to the TV. The same applied for video as well, but I have not yet tested audio. When enabling screen mirroring in the AirPlay settings, I was also disappointed by the results. The notification bar turned blue, the device appeared to be trying to connect for mirroring, then the AirPlay settings reset, turning off the connection to the dongle. No matter how many times I tried, it wouldn’t work. It may be my lack of knowledge with iOS and how to properly connect the devices, it could be an incompatibility with iOS7, or it could just be a falsely advertised feature. I don’t know the answer to this. EDITED: If I am correct in that Visiontech makes this device, their website (in a couple of posts below) indicates AirPlay is a feature still in development and will be added in a future update.
EDITED: DLNA works as expected. I did have some buffering/stuttering, but that was likely due to my new ISP which is a reduction in speed. Any DLNA/UPNP app or device will recognize this dongle and send content to it. Since DLNA plays the content locally, I haven't narrowed down which files are supported. I have not had any issue with mp4, which should be expected. In order to use DLNA, this dongle needs to be in AirFun mode, but you don't need to use the AirFun app to use it. This app just gives basic functionality and allows you to setup the dongle.
The most important feature in which I purchased this for is the Miracast functionality. I tested this in two different environments and found two different user experiences. I tested this at the university I work for and at home (which I am still testing more at home and will update this with more information later). Before you can connect to Miracast, you must press the button on the side of the dongle twice to switch to the wireless HDMI mode. At the university, the experience was such that I don’t feel it would be beneficial for the classroom. Connecting took several attempts before it was successful. Upon a successful connection, most of the time my device’s wireless connection was disconnected and reverted to cellular data. The screen mirroring worked as it should, however with a fraction of a second in latency. Audio transmitted to the TV flawlessly as well. At times, especially during heavy activity, the TV would fall further behind than initial connection and the picture would display large groups of poorly rendered blocks. This was further exaggerated when I reconnected to wifi for some reason. It may be due to the large number of wireless devices on a college campus causing interference that caused these issues, but I don’t know enough about networking to make an educated guess to this. I did notice turning the HTC One’s Power Saver mode off improved the experience, but only slightly.
EDITED: At home, I get mixed results. Most of the time, it works flawlessly via Miracast. There are times that the picture lags behind and when it starts to, it can be tens of seconds behind. It eventually catches up, especially if you stop your activity to allow it to catch up. With that said, I streamed a few movies from Plex to my HTC One which was Miracasting to the PTV dongle. I did not see any moments in any attempt in which the mirroring had fallen out of sync with my phone. I did, however, find a few movies that would not play sound over Miracast. I am not sure if this is due to bandwidth, licensing/authentication/DRM, or something else entirely. I need to investigate the files more in depth to determine if it's the stream. I tried to play a game with this, but I honestly found myself looking at my phone more than the TV to see where I was touching on screen. I didn't notice any delay here either, but I wasn't playing a complex game either. I ought to try this using a game controller and see how it performs this way. I also discovered that Google Play Music and Google Play Movies & TV are blocked over Miracast. They will not play, even locally stored music tracks. Play Movies tells me this feature is not supported, while Play Music will either display "Cannot play track" or disconnect the Miracast connection completely. Upon contacting Google with regard to this, they responded indicating that this is normal behavior and suggested I buy a Chromecast. I shouldn't have to buy another product to use Google services that already work on my device.
Being a Sprint customer and experiencing network issues regularly on their cellular data, I have installed an app that floats network download and upload speeds on my screen so that I can determine if anything isn’t working due to my internet connection. I noticed that while connected through Miracast, my upload speeds were incredibly high. This is what I would expect from a Miracast connection considering 1080p video encoded as h.264 mp4 video and up to 5.1 surround sound audio is being sent from my phone to the dongle over wifi direct. For anyone curious about the network activity, my upload speeds floated between 7-9 Mbps while connected to Miracast. Download speeds remained normal for the activity I was performing.
I also wanted to note that the PTV Miracast adapter gets about as hot as the HTC One can during high activity. It can be uncomfortable to touch. The included manual warns about this and promises that it will not affect performance. I am still concerned of the heat, despite the manual’s acknowledgement of this issue. Hopefully the heat doesn’t affect this device’s lifespan. I hope that this in-depth review has been helpful to all those who have read it. I would recommend this product to others, but I would warn others of the shortcomings this dongle has as well. The $50 I paid for this was a fair price considering the average price for Miracast today. Others at the same or higher price don’t offer MirrorOP or AirPlay -- I’m hoping a firmware update down the road fixes the AirPlay problems.
Tested with:
MirrorOP - Nexus 7 (2012) on Android 4.3
AirPlay - iPad 2 (two different iPads) running iOS7
Miracast - HTC One on Android 4.3 Sense 5
Full HD 1080P WiFi Display Dongle HDMI Wireless PTV Support DLNA / Miracast
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ESUPKE4/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I just received this dongle. Haven't had time to play with it yet, but will very very soon. I did manage to test whether or not the HTC One would connect and on 4.3 Sense 5, it connects and detects it. It's not as intuitive as I would hope, but I'll elaborate later. iPad connectivity via AirPlay will be tested soon too.
gk1984 said:
I just received this dongle. Haven't had time to play with it yet, but will very very soon. I did manage to test whether or not the HTC One would connect and on 4.3 Sense 5, it connects and detects it. It's not as intuitive as I would hope, but I'll elaborate later. iPad connectivity via AirPlay will be tested soon too.
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please let us know how it works.
thanks
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Well, I plan on writing an in depth review later and putting I on the Amazon page too. But some initial thoughts:
So far, miracast works great! WiFi turns off while connecting. Not sure if this is normal or not. Performance is also worse with wifi on, in fact it can be very unusable with wifi on. But this was tested at work so far, home wifi might be a different experience.
If you plan to use any of the other features, I don't recommend setting it up on a wifi that needs to be authenticated - as in if you need to open a website, get a splash screen, and either sign in or accept a license agreement. This is not possible to do on this device and it locked me out of the dongle because it was connected to this kind of network and I had no way to change it.
You download the app to control this device directly from the dongle via ip address. You use the app for everything besides miracast - Dlna, configuration, etc.
I'll update op with full, in depth review after I spend some time with it.
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EDIT: testing at home not disconnect of wifi upon connection. iPad on iOS 7 will see the dongle as an airplay device, but can't connect to it for mirroring, not sure what else to do with it. More testing to come.
Another note for everyone before I write my in-depth review... Airplay doesn't work. The iPad will see the dongle as an Airplay device, but won't connect to it. Tried screen mirroring and just picture sharing, neither worked. Could be something to do with iOS 7 or something.
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Updated OP with in-depth review. Need to revisit two sections after I play with it some more. Will update in a few days.
Not having much success at home either. It works for a little bit, then has problems like I experienced at the university. Still planning to update with more info. But I think I found the company that makes this - the vendor has left this information out and the packaging doesn't include this info either. The specs, description, features, and pictures are all identical.
http://www.vissontech.com/products_detail2/&productId=16a67a7b-4b2c-46f6-8a28-c825a361bdd5&comp_stats=comp-FrontProducts_list01-1337323367416.html
In case anyone wants to investigate further.
Wow! this review is very helpful man. thanks for this review. Now I think I want one :cyclops:
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Not having much success at home either. It works for a little bit, then has problems like I experienced at the university. Still planning to update with more info. But I think I found the company that makes this - the vendor has left this information out and the packaging doesn't include this info either. The specs, description, features, and pictures are all identical.
http://www.vissontech.com/products_...=comp-FrontProducts_list01-1337323367416.html
In case anyone wants to investigate further.
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No problem. Shop around though, I think if it supported 5ghz wifi like miracast is supposed to, this would have been a better experience. I just recently discovered that.
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HI,
2 weeks ago I got this unit http://www.win-star.com/eshop/goods.php?id=159
I choice it because of the integrated LAN, and simplified functionality (no android, no need to play with air mouse).
It prove to need it own mouse to switch between different modes, as there no any button on unit itself(only hidden reset)
During first star the Unit create own wifi network so I connect to it my samsung galaxy s4 active. However I was unable to test miracast mode not connect.
Then I switch to "bridge to wireless" trying to connect WS-AV601D1 to my existing network but unsuccessfully. I switch back manually to "AP only" mode, however since then I can not see any more networks from the device itself nor to access WIFI settings(its gray/unaccessible). I can not see anymore the open WiFi network that the device should make. I reset it several times to default settings but it going to "Bridge to WiFi" mode instead of "AP only". WiFi light not switching on at all, and wifi module is unaccessible. WiFi module fail about 10 min after first start.
Note that the unit support only WEP encryption, and have no settings for connection to not broadcasted /hidden SSID. So practically I could not connect it WiFi to my existing network even if it works(unless broadcast SSID and change to WEP)!!!
Further I could test only airplay(android airfun appk) from my s4 active and notebook, and screen mirroring from my notebook only(having the device connected to my network via LAN cable). Using the software provided.
Most important for me was the 1080p video played from notebook to TV quality. So the quality was bad, looks like xvid 700MB rip(or more like x264, baseline, ultra fast, 1000bit/s encoding). Dont understand me wrong quality was fair for animation movies of my son, despite of HDMI playback of same video you can not see each hear and dimple of actors face). There was some sound distortion too, however i dint paly with sound settings of the unit. Upload speed during playback was 2-3mbit, while normal speed within my network is 6-7mbit. Note that the Unit is LAN connected to my Asus RT-N66U.
I already send my back to China and waiting for refund.
So I could not test miracast! Does it provide better video quality when mirroring 1080p video What unit you could recommend
I purchased the iview Mira Cast dongle and it pretty much works the same. I did notice a slight lag in playing videos and sometimes it falls behind. The dlna feature works really well but with no remote you have to push everything from the One or browsing your dlna server with another app. I use skifta.
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dudejb said:
I purchased the iview Mira Cast dongle and it pretty much works the same. I did notice a slight lag in playing videos and sometimes it falls behind. The dlna feature works really well but with no remote you have to push everything from the One or browsing your dlna server with another app. I use skifta.
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HTC ONE (Stock so far) Just got 2013-04-21
Samsung Captivate Glide
Installed:
CWMR5x_i927_recovery.tar.md5
ICS 4.0.4 LiteRom 0.9.0
LiteKernel
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I brought the ezcast and found playback at 1080p theres a lot of delay at times on gaming and streaming on nvidia shield but with the htc one it wasn't to bad
Hi,
I'm using Tablet Talk on Nexus 4 phone and Nexus 7 tablet installed in my car dash. The application works totally fine except for one strange issue: it appears to cut off internet to other apps installed on Nexus 7. Internet connection is shared by the phone via Bluetooth.
When Tablet Talk is connected, Youtube shows connection error, Waze navigation cannot reach its servers most of the time (though not always), Chrome browser either works extremely slowly (loading google search results for about 3 minutes) or don't work at all.
Everything works fine as soon as I disconnect Tablet Talk.
I was unable to google similar issue reported by other Tablet Talk users, so maybe I'm doing anything wrong?
Any ideas are most welcome.
MausL said:
Hi,
I'm using Tablet Talk on Nexus 4 phone and Nexus 7 tablet installed in my car dash. The application works totally fine except for one strange issue: it appears to cut off internet to other apps installed on Nexus 7. Internet connection is shared by the phone via Bluetooth.
When Tablet Talk is connected, Youtube shows connection error, Waze navigation cannot reach its servers most of the time (though not always), Chrome browser either works extremely slowly (loading google search results for about 3 minutes) or don't work at all.
Everything works fine as soon as I disconnect Tablet Talk.
I was unable to google similar issue reported by other Tablet Talk users, so maybe I'm doing anything wrong?
Any ideas are most welcome.
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If you are using Bluetooth to connect to tablet talk, and to share internet.... Then there is your problem, I think u can only have one device connected with Bluetooth at a time.
Try setting phone as mobile hotspot, and connect the nexus 7 via WiFi. Then use tablet talk in WiFi mode. And forget about Bluetooth and its narrow bandwidth.
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If you are using Bluetooth to connect to tablet talk, and to share internet.... Then there is your problem, I think u can only have one device connected with Bluetooth at a time.
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I would agree if there is no internet at all - either Tablet Talk or internet. However, there are two things that make me believe that there's another reason: first, there is internet connection, yet somewhat flaky, in Waze navigation app, and some others, while Tablet Talk is connected. Next, Tablet Talk uses the same bluetooth connection - no extra [virtual] device or BT profile appears in the bluetooth connection list, as far as I remember.
I've asked the Tablet Talk developer about this; still awaiting their response.
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I would agree if there is no internet at all - either Tablet Talk or internet. However, there are two things that make me believe that there's another reason: first, there is internet connection, yet somewhat flaky, in Waze navigation app, and some others, while Tablet Talk is connected. Next, Tablet Talk uses the same bluetooth connection - no extra [virtual] device or BT profile appears in the bluetooth connection list, as far as I remember.
I've asked the Tablet Talk developer about this; still awaiting their response.
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Yup its still one connection but 2 data feeds, therefore 2 connections through Bluetooth. it makes sense to me this issue. That's why I never ran tablet talk this way. I know Bluetooth don't have much bandwidth.
I would be curious of the answer too. I use tablet talk just not in this configuration.
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I know Bluetooth don't have much bandwidth.
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Sure, but yet it's always been sufficient for any youtube video and other tasks. I don't believe that Tablet Talk in standby mode consumes all the bandwidth... but who knows, maybe you're right. I'll try to find a tool that'll allow to monitor BT bandwidth/load, if it's technically possible. Thanks for the clue!
I would be curious of the answer too.
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I'll post it here. Today I've received the developer's acknowledgement for my support inquiry - they've escalated it to 2nd level support for review.
I am pitching an idea that I have no idea how to implement. I am NOT a developer nor would I be able to acquire the skills necessary quickly. the reason for this post is to ask the community if it would be possible to create a ROM for the Galaxy Nexus or some other old easily unlockable phone that would mimic the functionality of an Android wear watch for use as a head unit in a vehicle similar to Android auto. Of course the ROM would not be the only custom aspect of this project one would also need to create or modify the wear UI in order to facilitate the functions of Android auto. the reason I believe Android wear API would be a good starting place for this project is because internet connection is shared between client and server devices. this would facilitate sharing of information between the devices without needing an Internet connection on the vehicle side. this would also allow the phone to automatically connect wirelessly to the head unit. the current Android auto hacks all require USB OTG. let me know your thoughts and try not to flame me too badly.
Which "Android auto hacks" ?
You mean my Headunit app ?
Android Auto has code to do AA over WiFi direct.
I will try to find a way to enable it, and make it work with my app.
USB is a PITA for anything besides charging.
WiFi Direct P2P will have it's own problems of course, but I'm really getting a hate-on for USB and the Host mode issues.
Android Auto has code to do AA over WiFi direct.
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Is AA here short for Android Auto?
Will WiFi direct allow for automatic connections without removing device from holster/ pocket?
The other issue with using a real Android Auto app is the lollipop requirement. My Daily driver is a droid turbo and there's no telling when my phone will get its update. ( and the bootloader has a damn chastity strap)
So I just pickup a Moto 360 2nd Gen smartwatch 2 days ago. I am currently using an Iphone 5. I was able to get the watch and phone connected through bluetooth perfectly fine as Motorola promise it does work with Apple Phones. However I spent the next day or so trying to look for wifi connectivity on the watch as well as the phone. it is no where to be found. The wifi setting on the Moto 360 is just not there. I try searching online for answers and all comes back to say the watch have a wifi feature which can be set at the setting area within the Moto 360. But regardless of what I did. turning off and on the watch number of times. Factory reset the watch number of times. updated to the latest Android wear OS 5.1.1. it still does not show up. I called Motorola tech support. the rep had a watch on his hand and said there should be a wifi setting in the Moto 360. However I'm certain he is not pair to an iphone. so he ask me to go and return the phone and said there could be a software issue with the watch I have.
I realize with Android wear connecting to an iphone, I will never get the full functionality as connecting to an Android phone. And I'm sure the wifi is one of the feature that will not work, simply because within Android wear app itself, in order for the wifi feature to work with the phone, inside Android wear, you have to turn on CLOUD sync. and Android ware for Iphone does not have the CLOUD sync feature in it. so I figure even if the wifi feature on the Moto 360 2nd gen is there, it won't do any good because of lack of CLOUD sync.
Just to answer some of you ask why I would buy a Android Wear watch instead of an Apple watch since I'm using a Iphone. well, the iphone is just my temporary phone. I have a Sony Xperia Z3 Compact, it was sent in for repair. until it come back. i'm using an old Iphone for my Spare.
Hope this help some people when they run into this issue. If you found something I don't know. please let me know. I like to know. thanks
WiFi and Bluetooth settings are disabled/hidden on all Android Wear devices when they connect to and iOS device.