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Overnight battery drain

I thought I would check and see how much battery is used overnight on my Nexus. What I found was that the Android OS kept the device awake over half the time. Also, for some reason the phone used battery as well.
I'm running stock 4.0.2, rooted and unlocked... is this typical?

Yes, this is known bug:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22878
Don't forget to star that issue ...
And tell all your neighbors ... all your friends to star it as well.
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Google must fix this!

Hey Guys -
I shut off location services and my battery drained only 9% in 8 hours of non use last night... It used to be around 25%. I'm thinking that Android keeps waking to check where you are... Just shutting off GPS is not enough as it will wake to find your location via wifi or cell towers.
Just my 2 cents. Give this a try to see if that helps you guys out. Google still needs to fix this but it might be a good temporary workaround.
Rob

I typically see around 8-10% battery drain overnight off the charger. And I thought I had problems. If you are losing 25% over night that seems unacceptable.
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tk123456789 said:
I typically see around 8-10% battery drain overnight off the charger. And I thought I had problems. If you are losing 25% over night that seems unacceptable.
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It actually dropped from 100% to 24% overnight which is almost 10% per hour.

i lose 1% in 1.5hrs, on standby in ATT HSPA+ network, i thought that was pretty good.

gogol said:
Yes, this is known bug:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22878
Don't forget to star that issue ...
And tell all your neighbors ... all your friends to star it as well.
Spread the word ... tell the universe ...
Google must fix this!
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Roman has fixed it or at least it appears he has. I loaded his CDMA rom "[ROM] [AOSP] Android Open Kang Project - toro build 9 [Dec 21]" over at rootz and it is putting the phone to sleep when the screen is off. My phone had be staying awake 30 - 50% of the time prior to this. I've only had the rom loaded a short time, but in the last 40 minutes of non-use my Staying Awake time has been about 2 minutes. YMMV
Good luck.

Geezer Squid said:
Roman has fixed it or at least it appears he has. I loaded his CDMA rom "[ROM] [AOSP] Android Open Kang Project - toro build 9 [Dec 21]" over at rootz and it is putting the phone to sleep when the screen is off. My phone had be staying awake 30 - 50% of the time prior to this. I've only had the rom loaded a short time, but in the last 40 minutes of non-use my Staying Awake time has been about 2 minutes. YMMV
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Thanks for the reply... that's encouraging to hear. I'd like to stay stock for a while so hopefully 4.0.3 drops soon!

I know many people recommend rooting and using a custom rom, but I've had a poor experience with that. Having said that, I've been working on battery issues and this is a picture of my battery drain overnight. It basically took a nosedive.
What I don't understand is some people are getting great battery life from this phone. I've turned off all my widgets and followed many recommendations - but frankly I shouldn't have to do any of that and even so my battery life is abysmal.
Is there any answer to this problem short of rooting? Do I have any reason to believe that google will acknowledge and correct this issue?
By the way I had a Droid Razr for a month prior to the Nexus, and it would lose no more than 10% of it's battery overnight.

I do everything "wrong" (syncing, gps - wifi - data on) I have 5 widgets on my home screens and I loose less than a % per hour over night if not on the charger.
When I am using my phone I keep the screen on full brightness. This will get me about 12 hours of use with 4 hours screen on time.
I have no idea why some people get great battery life and others don't. There must be bugs floating around. Lets see what 4.0.3 brings. I'm unlocked and rooted but still stock.
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That's the frustrating thing - it's working great for some people.
I have to return mine because the headphone jack doesn't do stereo, maybe I'll get lucky and the new one won't have signal and battery issues.
The Razr never dropped voice or data - the Nexus drops both multiple times during the day.

McDeadagain said:
That's the frustrating thing - it's working great for some people.
I have to return mine because the headphone jack doesn't do stereo, maybe I'll get lucky and the new one won't have signal and battery issues.
The Razr never dropped voice or data - the Nexus drops both multiple times during the day.
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I would try a different radio. I wasn't exactly thrilled with reception at first. A North American radio changed that. But i would still give moto a step up on reception.
I think more people should also consider congestion in their city to how well battery life does. Can Make a big difference. Otoh though, that doesn't account for standby at night when you're asleep. It would seem to me no matter how your phone is setup 1% an hour should be the norm, unless your phone downloads a lot of data.
My grandma beat me down and took my nexus. Sent from a jitterbug with beats by dre.

McDeadagain said:
That's the frustrating thing - it's working great for some people.
I have to return mine because the headphone jack doesn't do stereo, maybe I'll get lucky and the new one won't have signal and battery issues.
The Razr never dropped voice or data - the Nexus drops both multiple times during the day.
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Ya, try swapping it, IDK... I have yet to drop a single call on my Nexus. One thing i can say is Samsung needs to look at their quality control. I definitely got a good one. I don't see the REAL problems others are having. The fact that most phones are fine, and some are duds is the one thing i will hold against Samsung. Gives a really good phone a bad name when so many have issues.
I can say its not all of them.

McDeadagain said:
I know many people recommend rooting and using a custom rom, but I've had a poor experience with that. Having said that, I've been working on battery issues and this is a picture of my battery drain overnight. It basically took a nosedive.
What I don't understand is some people are getting great battery life from this phone. I've turned off all my widgets and followed many recommendations - but frankly I shouldn't have to do any of that and even so my battery life is abysmal.
Is there any answer to this problem short of rooting? Do I have any reason to believe that google will acknowledge and correct this issue?
By the way I had a Droid Razr for a month prior to the Nexus, and it would lose no more than 10% of it's battery overnight.
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Thats just horrible idle drain. Something kept it awake you can see.
I feel bad cause my gsm version is literally the best idle drain phone ive ever had. It stays dead flat for me and last night i lost about 1% every 2 hours, and tgat is witg data on and two gmail syncing etc. Its just awesome. I think there is something wrong with tge verizon model. My phone is stock too.

McDeadagain said:
I know many people recommend rooting and using a custom rom, but I've had a poor experience with that. Having said that, I've been working on battery issues and this is a picture of my battery drain overnight. It basically took a nosedive.
What I don't understand is some people are getting great battery life from this phone. I've turned off all my widgets and followed many recommendations - but frankly I shouldn't have to do any of that and even so my battery life is abysmal.
Is there any answer to this problem short of rooting? Do I have any reason to believe that google will acknowledge and correct this issue?
By the way I had a Droid Razr for a month prior to the Nexus, and it would lose no more than 10% of it's battery overnight.
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Is it related to wifi? Noticed most of your drain was while wifi was off.
My grandma beat me down and took my nexus. Sent from a jitterbug with beats by dre.

I just tried a new ROM last night and had an improvement with my phone sleeping more of the time the screen was off yet the battery drain doubled to 3%/hour. Can someone explain how that makes sense? My phone slept 10 of 11 hours during this time. And the CPU was scaled down at 350 mhz by the kernel the entire time while the screen was off. So confused...
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Might need to calibrate battery.
My grandma beat me down and took my nexus. Sent from a jitterbug with beats by dre.

105437 said:
I'm running stock 4.0.2, rooted and unlocked... is this typical?
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i have the same setup and loose less than 1% an hour, when the phone is idle

Thanks to the kind folks who have replied with questions, comments, or just sympathy
There are of course a lot of threads in this forum related to the Nexus battery life and I've been trying to do my own due diligence. I have removed every widget from the phone - even those which are just 'switches' and should not make any data requests. It was still draining.
Then I removed the fancy Light Flow lite app that gave me pretty notification lights - still drained.
Finally, I removed Battery Monitor Widget - the very app I was using to try to find the cause of my drain.
Took the phone off the charger at about 10:30 this morning. Used it for navigation for 20 minutes, ran the bluetooth for a bit and that took quite a bit off the battery. However, when I got home I forgot to turn the wifi on and set the phone down. Sitting there doing nothing connected to 4g the battery dropped less than 10% over three hours. I didn't look closely enough to see the exact numbers but overall I'm at 60% now after 6 hours of what I would call moderate use.
Most importantly, the phone seems to actually sleep now when not in use. I don't mind if the battery drops a bit faster during use - it has a great screen and wicked fast 4g. I just don't want it to tank when it's not doing anything.
For right now, it's acting exactly how I would expect and I'm very pleased. Will probably give it another day and then try to add back my beautiful widgets time/weather/calendar widget on the home screen and see what kind of damage that does. Maybe try a different battery widget as I like the percent left in the notification bar.
Good thing is, now I have a baseline that I'm happy with to measure my performance from.
Thanks again for those who've posted in this thread. Hope anyone else having similar issues might benefit from my experience.

And I'm right back where I started. Phone had insomnia last night. I took it off the charger at 100% last night at midnight and it died within five hours sitting on my night stand.

what happened to my battery?

So a few days ago I installed Nova Launcher, got root, changed my dpi to 170, applied the screen off SMS fix, and installed accuweather. I feel like battery life has decreased considerably. I usually don't leave my phone plugged in overnight, but did yesterday. Today, I am down to 81% with 22m on screen time -- at this rate, I would get an hour and a half on a full charge, where I've gotten 3 days and 5 hours of on screen time before when the phone was 100% stock. I had the phone in airplane mode for most of the day, but the battery graph still shows a sharper than usual decline. I just uninstalled accuweather to see if that would help, and will do a complete drain this charge cycle. Anyone else seen something similar to this?

I installed nova launcher prime and my battery life is still amazing. Although I'm not rooted, I wouldn't think that root is the issue. Have you installed an app that has gone rogue and is constantly running? For my part devices that was the problem most of the time. Check your battery stays to see if you can identify which app is exhausting your battery and if you can't, my suggestion is to hard reset to get better results.
One of the great things about the note is the battery life. It would suck to have this advantage become a disadvantage. Good luck
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Search for better battery stats here on Xda. You can get the paid app for free (though I recommend purchasing it).
It may help you identify the app, or service eating cycles, or draining your battery.
Did you by chance recently enable Google now?
Or do you have maps reporting/updating your location with GpS radio enabled?
sent from my ginormous Note II

Yes, I experienced something very similar, as did at least one other user in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1977476
My battery suddenly went from being awesome to draining about 1% every 5-10 minutes with no apparent cause, even while sleeping. I wiped and re-flashed, which did not seem to help, then tried an odin re-flash, with still questionable results immediately thereafter. The next day, it seemed to be spontaneously resolved - though, I'm not convinced my battery life is quite as good as some people are reporting.
Interestingly, better battery stats did not show any suspect activity.
I know that's not a solution, but you are definitely not alone. There is something weird going on here. That other user theorized it might be a calibration issue. Seems as plausible to me as anything else. If you are feeling patient, perhaps let it be for a day or two and see if it does indeed spontaneously resolve for you. That would be a helpful data point. If you can't bring yourself to do that, at least keep us updated on what you do and the results.

I am so sick of this tablet...

Had to return the first one as the battery dropped so quickly I could see it - dropped by about 5% at a time every 2 minutes or so...
The one I've got now has been working fine (for the last 2 weeks) until today.
Turned the screen off at about 65% battery. Turned it on about 3 hours later and it had dropped to 43% without the screen being used. Mediaserver and Google Services had been using most of it apparently.
Rebooted it. It then went from 43% to 36% to 26% to 22% to 15% to 9% to 2% in about 5 minutes.
How can Samsung release something so useless?? Is it the software??

Wow that's f-ed up sorry about your luck.
htc one

No luck man.
I'm very happy with mine...

jack880 said:
Had to return the first one as the battery dropped so quickly I could see it - dropped by about 5% at a time every 2 minutes or so...
The one I've got now has been working fine (for the last 2 weeks) until today.
Turned the screen off at about 65% battery. Turned it on about 3 hours later and it had dropped to 43% without the screen being used. Mediaserver and Google Services had been using most of it apparently.
Rebooted it. It then went from 43% to 36% to 26% to 22% to 15% to 9% to 2% in about 5 minutes.
How can Samsung release something so useless?? Is it the software??
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R U Rooted?
Seems odd to me that both of them have the same issue

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R U Rooted?
Seems odd to me that both of them have the same issue
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Hi. No, not rooted.
The battery stayed at 2% for ages. I then turned it off and on again, and the battery showed as 36% again. It then dropped straight to 23% which is where it is now.
Seems all over the place...

you try a factory reset? worked for my battery drain problem :good:

m00nelph said:
you try a factory reset? worked for my battery drain problem :good:
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Not with this one, but I did with the previous one, several times.
It's not acceptable to me to have to wipe my tablet routinely to get it to work properly...
How long has it been since you did the reset?
Thanks

Have you factory reset and not installed any programs to monitor usage?
Perhaps something your installing is doing it. Are you using a microsd card?
I just starting charging my tablet after 1 day and 17 hours with 9 hours and 30 minutes of screen on time.
And I still had 18% battery left. I'm not saying it to brag just that battery life is fine on this tablet.
Until then please search Google for mediaserver battery drain. This is not running on my tablet btw.

Media server can happen if you have some corrupt media file the tablet is trying to read and identify over and over again
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Threads like this are always interesting. If every owner on this forum's N10.1-14 performed like OP's don't you'd think it would be on the front page? So OP's issue is something unique. It could be:
A manufacturing issue that affected a batch of N10.1-14's. If OP's exchanging at the same place all their devices could be from the same batch.
Samsung uses different s/w in different regions and perhaps there's a battery draining s/w issue in the particular ROM OP's using. But unless OP's from Antartica you'd think others from his region would be reporting the same issue.
OP's loaded something on his device that's either incompatible with 4.3 or Exynos 5420. A lot of older legacy apps still run on newer Android devices but don't run well and create issues. If OP's using restore his old apps are being installed as soon as he signs in to his Google and/or Samsung account.
Of the three I'm guessng number 3 is the most likely. I have a SM-601 with 130 apps installed, a dozen syncs running, and two Exchange push account always downloading. Used exactly the way I used my N-8000 I'm getting about 10% less battery life. That seems about right to me considering the PPI is doubled, the SoC is more powerful, and I'm using also Samsung's motion, voice, and air sensors which didn't exist on the N-8000.
OP, try setting up the tablet without signing in to either your Google or Samsung account. That'll make sure no apps are installed without your knowledge. See if the battery drain is still there. If it's not, your issue is s/w and not the s/w pre-installed by Samsung. Good luck.

Thanks for the replies.
It seems there are 2 separate issues.
1. The mediaserver battery drain (I do have a micro sd card, but haven't recently added loads of new files or anything). The tablet has run fine for 2 weeks without this issue, and I haven't recently installed any new apps.
2. The fact that the tablet doesn't know how much charge it has - goes from 2% back up to 36% without being charged etc.
I'm not sure what to do. I noticed that google play music was running in task manager so ive disabled that, and have fully run down and am fully recharging the battery. When in plugged the charger in symbol went from showing battery empty to about 20% charged instantly which doesn't bode well...
If I still have an issue i guess I will exchange it a 2nd time for a 3rd unit...
Thanks for the help

I saw this thread on another forum and wondered if it would help with your battery issues:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...nger-battery-life-how-youre-being-robbed.html
Hope it helps,
Glenn

Gamul1 said:
I saw this thread on another forum and wondered if it would help with your battery issues:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...nger-battery-life-how-youre-being-robbed.html
Hope it helps,
Glenn
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Thanks for that mate. I'd already seen that thread but thanks anyway.
Before this issue today I was happy with the battery life. My problem is not a general battery life issue - something is obviously seriously wrong with my unit...

jack880 said:
Not with this one, but I did with the previous one, several times.
It's not acceptable to me to have to wipe my tablet routinely to get it to work properly...
How long has it been since you did the reset?
Thanks
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I reset it once, a few weeks ago and its been solid with power usage since.

Perhaps it is being effective by the new Google Play Services, which appears to have a battery draining issue. This started in the last week, I believe.

The battery drain just happen recently, isn't it? I've just bought my Note for 4 days, on the first and second day, the battery is awesome, but from the third day it run down from 45% to 5% in minutes.... I think that related to some update service and happen to massive device recently!

maquan said:
The battery drain just happen recently, isn't it? I've just bought my Note for 4 days, on the first and second day, the battery is awesome, but from the third day it run down from 45% to 5% in minutes.... I think that related to some update service and happen to massive device recently!
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Well, it is a possibility. My first gen Note 10.1 wifi does not seem effected by it. It is on 4.1.2. I also do not think this effects all devices. Wondering if it is a 4.2.2 and up issue or something along those lines. I only suggest it a possibility to check into.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2378962
in here state that the problem could come from the new update of Google Play Store. I did remember that it is updated before the problem appeared (but not so sure). Just remove the update of Play store and see the result. Will report back

Just to update you all in case other people are having the same issue - I disabled google play music, ran thrbattery right down so the tablet switched off, charged back up to 100% and then used it normally. Battery seems much better. Although it did drain really quickly from about 35% to about 5%, but over an hour or so, not in minutes like before.
Weird apps have stopped using all the battery - its now used by about 90% screen, 5% android os etc which seems normal.
Still, there is always the worry that ill get it of its case one day when I nred need to use it and the battery will be flat!

P600 wifi getting 14 hour battery life here. Been using it all day and played some games too. Im happy with the battery life.
If people get together and help make knox proof root, I might be interested in making a rom with all my battery saving goodness in. Or work with some people to make a nice clean, lean rom. Who knows.

Problems after 5.0.1 update

I updated a couple of days ago to the android wear 5.0.1 OS and the latest android wear app...
Great work was done on the watchface API. Watchfaces are now more organized and accessible..
The biggest problem I'm facing now is the huge Battery Drain.
Watch can no longer last through the day.. I put it on at atound 6:30 in the morning.. At 2:30 PM, I'll be down to 15%.
What good is a watch if it can't last a normal day?
I think i might have jumped on the android wear wagon too soon.
Now I'm stuck with a useless device in my wrist.

Do you have a lot of 3rd party apps for the watch? I"m just guessing but it could be that these 3rd party apps aren't optimized to work with 5.0.1. Perhaps you could remove those apps and see how it goes.
And I assume that you've already done a reset?

I've made it through about 16 hours and am down to 46%. What are you doing to run it down so much? I have wrist activation turned off and ambient mode turned off. I do have Facer running with a watch face that gives weather and battery stats, but that's the only thing that would drain my battery.

I have not reset... I have two third party apps.. A compass and phone lost detection..
I'll reset and feedback here.. Good advice man thanks.

I have the same problem once i got the update even facer also updated battery life is bad again

Im having the same problem also. But after turn off BT a night, next day turn in again, the problem fix magically. Problem now is sometimes having difficulty to charge it. Need to turn off BT again then only can fully charge. Btw, didnt reset after system update.[/QUOTE]

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I have the same problem once i got the update even facer also updated battery life is bad again
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For facer, see if this makes and difference -> http://www.reddit.com/r/Facer/comments/2p2in2/battery_life_android_wear_5_duplicate_watchfaces/
switch to the "other" facer app on your watch...

Manar Aleryani said:
I have not reset... I have two third party apps.. A compass and phone lost detection..
I'll reset and feedback here.. Good advice man thanks.
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Uninstall phone lost detection app, that improved my battery life vastly
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Same thing happened to me. I usually take my watch off the cradle around 8am and get home from work around 6pm. Usually have about 60% life remaining. I'm using just the built in digital watch face. Today was my first full day on 5.0.1 update and my watch died before 3pm. I can't believe it. Hoping it's just a fluke. Think I'll go one more day and if it happens again will try a reset.

DanRyb said:
Same thing happened to me. I usually take my watch off the cradle around 8am and get home from work around 6pm. Usually have about 60% life remaining. I'm using just the built in digital watch face. Today was my first full day on 5.0.1 update and my watch died before 3pm. I can't believe it. Hoping it's just a fluke. Think I'll go one more day and if it happens again will try a reset.
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The reset did improved the battery performance for me.
I don't see any harm in resetting as this is a watch after all, so little will be lost.
However, the battery performance surely improved but it did not return the watch to the same battery performance as before the update.
I used to pick up the watch at 6:30 AM and put it on the dock at 11:30 PM with 48-50 percent left.
Now I pick it up at 6:30 and put it on the dock at 10 PM with 15 percent left. But it's still surely an improvement before the reset and after the update (I got only 5 hours before I decided to reset)
I still haven't installed ANY third party apps at all. I can only imagine how the performance will decrease if I install phone lost detection or any other Bluetooth-demanding apps.

i am finding that i'm getting slightly less battery life, but i make it through the day fine. i'm starting to wonder how much the accelerometer is killing battery. they finally integrated the option to disable "tilt to wake" and i have seen an improvement only at work where moving my hands on the keyboard. on the weekends, when i'm just wearing/walking, etc., tilt to wake makes no difference.

I got the latest 5.0.1 update on my watch seem like battery life is back! Im at 65% and its 4pm I removed it from the charger at around 5am .
My previous problem was I had the 4.4w on my watch and Facer that was on Android 5.0 . That was the reason for the bad battery life.

I've been on 5.0.1 for a couple days now and while battery life seems unchanged to me, the watch does seem to have a hard time charging to 100%. I got home from work and put it on the charger and usually it charges to 100% within an hour. Now I noticed it would get to about 85-90% and stop charging completely. The blue circle charging screen stays on but it doesn't keep charging. I left it on the charger all night and it was at 86% when I picked it up in the morning. Anyone else seeing this issue?

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I've been on 5.0.1 for a couple days now and while battery life seems unchanged to me, the watch does seem to have a hard time charging to 100%. I got home from work and put it on the charger and usually it charges to 100% within an hour. Now I noticed it would get to about 85-90% and stop charging completely. The blue circle charging screen stays on but it doesn't keep charging. I left it on the charger all night and it was at 86% when I picked it up in the morning. Anyone else seeing this issue?
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I have pretty much the same issue with my Moto 360, except in my case I only get to 75~78%, less than yours. I've been googling here and there about this one, but so far no luck with fixes or workarounds. I've e-mailed Motorola and, although I don't except a lot from them, hopefully they get back to me with something useful.

i think i noticed this also! hovered around 85% -ish.
i just took it off the charger, put it back and then it has not happened since. this was a couple days ago.
stock stock stock all the way homie! latest updates. nex 6 paired.

Yeah seems ok to me now too. Strange.

[Q] Standby Battery life woes

So Does anyone get good standby battery? Lately, not using it, it only lasts about 2-3 days. My wife's iPad at the same point in time has about 80% charge left if it isn't used.
Thinking about switching back to Apple on the tablets for just this reason.

DId you see what causes such huge draining
Hi, did you check what is causing this huge draining? My tablet is fine, taking just 2-3% overnight.

My P600 drops 5-10% over a 24 hour period, but only drops 2-3% if airplane mode is on.

Probably you installed an app that causing wake lock. There are a lot of theads about wake lock, but for you to know is some background process that don't allow your device to enter in deep sleep. Unfortunaly, android is like that, if you install a bad app you going to have issues.

Yeah maybe, but with KitKat and no root, ferreting out problems is much harder. Seemed to be mostly fine before the last two updates I got.

Thats crazy ... Android OS should not be anywhere near that high a percentage. Have you tried reatrting your tablet a few times if not I'd say factory reset and see what happens. I must say this Tablet has had A LOT of people complaining about battery issues - seems like a product fault somewhere. Fortunatly mine is still gojng strong hopefully that doesnt change.
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Yeah, it restarts itself when I pick it up and the battery was completely drained. Yesterday I had 6minutes screen on time, and was dead within 2 days of unplugging it. Bought an iPad for Christmas. Can't decide what to do here. Android seems to always have battery issues with the solution being "Factory Reset it". Annoys the heck out of me.

So, after a data wipe. Minimally installed and syncing apps, the 2 day drain is gone, replaced by losing about 3-4% at night. Now decisions. The deal was I was suppose to sell my Android tab here, and buy an iPad due to battery frustration woes. Well, it was the deal with my wife. Now I am thinking of just keeping both of them. Wonder how long I can hide it. iPad still destroys the Note 10.1 2014 on battery life....but there are a few Android things I want, e.g. Stylus, Share menu, that I believe Apple or app developers on iPad will fix soon.