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Latest Android Wear update broke my Moto 360

Ever since updating this evening, I'm getting unfortunately the process com.google.process.gapps has stopped over and over. I hit ok, it comes back.
No clue what's causing it. The only thing that changed was I updated Android Wear app.

USA Prime Credit Peggy said:
Ever since updating this evening, I'm getting unfortunately the process com.google.process.gapps has stopped over and over. I hit ok, it comes back.
No clue what's causing it. The only thing that changed was I updated Android Wear app.
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Make sure your phone is running latest Google Play Services (7.0.97)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.gms
What Play Services version is running on your 360? Settings > About > tap Software Version. Should be 7.0.95

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Make sure your phone is running latest Google Play Services (7.0.97)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.gms
What Play Services version is running on your 360? Settings > About > tap Software Version. Should be 7.0.95
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mine on my moto is 6.7.74. how would I upgrade this manually?
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anubis1980 said:
mine on my moto is 6.7.74. how would I upgrade this manually?
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figured it out, just sync the apps from android wear app, thanks anyway

Solution to update until they fix the issue!
Hi guys,
well this is what I did!
You have to delete Android Wear from your phone and then download the last update APK and install this on your phone, so in a sense you are taking the Android Wear back to the last update:
so firstly delete android wear app on phone
On your phone:
Google Android Wear 1.0.5.1724356 and select first entry apkmirror
scroll down to All Versions and choose whether you want the last one Mar 12th or Feb 25th, incidently I chose Feb 25th
Click on download arrow and then click to install on phone, you may need to tick allow download from outside sources, this site is google approved so is ok.
and thats it, you now have the previous version, I would advise installing My Backup pro as this will allow you to save your APKs if you accidentally update one again in the future. You could also deselect the auto update on the Android Wear app.
Best
J

Doesn't work..
Nothing of this works for me..it's so annoying.. ;(

Reset
Xelfmade said:
Nothing of this works for me..it's so annoying.. ;(
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I had to go into my watch settings and do a factory reset and re-install android wear app (not sure if re-installing the app really did anything, but didn't hurt)...It was annoying having to set it up all over again and blocking cards I do not want to show up, but its better then this constant notification killing my battery.

Xelfmade said:
Nothing of this works for me..it's so annoying.. ;(
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Me too. Tried once to factory reset the watch, reinstall the latest Android Wear to my phone and resync the apps. However, the result isn't encouraging at all. The watch was quite hot.
I switched off the bluetooth and let the watch to cool down. Then, I will do another trial. Wish me luck. Thanks!

Thank you sir, that did the trick in my case!
JustinConnor said:
Hi guys,
well this is what I did!
You have to delete Android Wear from your phone and then download the last update APK and install this on your phone, so in a sense you are taking the Android Wear back to the last update:
so firstly delete android wear app on phone
On your phone:
Google Android Wear 1.0.5.1724356 and select first entry apkmirror
scroll down to All Versions and choose whether you want the last one Mar 12th or Feb 25th, incidently I chose Feb 25th
Click on download arrow and then click to install on phone, you may need to tick allow download from outside sources, this site is google approved so is ok.
and thats it, you now have the previous version, I would advise installing My Backup pro as this will allow you to save your APKs if you accidentally update one again in the future. You could also deselect the auto update on the Android Wear app.
Best
J
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Put me into the boat of this error, it's not all the time, but goes in cycles. I'll get it for an 8 hr stretch, then nothing. I've tried everything except hard resetting my watch. I'm hoping for an update on either play services for the phone or watch to get rid of it. Might be that my Corp email is my most frequent notification, but that is where i see it most.
Phone is 4.4.2 Sprint Galaxy S4T stock build with custom recovery and rooted. No system modifications other than root

reset the device
Fixed!
I did a factory reset. Didn't work the first time, I kept clicking away those pop-ups... I tried again without touching the watch and about 20 minutes later I was good to go, without the process error.

Guys it's way more easier than this , just go too apss and find google play services the touch it, click on uninstall updates then ok and just let it u installed, then go to play storeor wait till notification pup-up about play music or hangout or android wear need app requered and click. On it or in play store search for google play services , both will end at same page , then click update and let it install the latest version and finished , all errors will be vanished, enjoy it.

scorpion_s66 said:
Guys it's way more easier than this , just go to apps and find google play services the touch it, click on uninstall updates then ok and just let it u installed, then go to play store or wait till notification pup-up about play music or hangout or android wear need app required and click. On it or in play store search for google play services , both will end at same page , then click update and let it install the latest version and finished , all errors will be vanished, enjoy it.
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My Uninstall Updates is grey and not clickable

You need to disable one of your 'Administrators.' Basically, hit the 'disable' button and it will ask you if you want to, hit yes. Then it will ask if you want to install the factory version, hit yes. Next it will take you to the 'Device Admin' in settings and you you will need to disable those, unless you only have one, in order to uninstall the previous update.
Update: The 'fix' given by scorpion_s66 did not work for me. I am now trying to reset my moto 360 but I cannot seem to do that either. All I can say is... Thanks Google! After I updated to the new Android Wear all these issues started. I reverted back to the older version but nothing changed. woooooooooooooooosssaaa wooossaaa woosa - Now I feel better (Bad Boys 2 just in case anyone doesn't get woosa).

I was impacted by this as well. After finding my watch on the charger yesterday morning red-hot and unusable (the same repeating error message mentioned earlier) I finally got it working by attempting a factory reset about 5+ times over the course of over an hour. It finally seemed to "take".
I've had this watch for about a week and while I like it and I'll keep it, I'm also coming to the conclusion that Google does not have it's A-team working on Android Wear. There are some really hacky implementations in here. I mean, why do my offline music transfers (phone to watch) automatically stop with no warning when the phone drops to 50% battery (which happens about about 50 songs). Why do I have to go through this ridiculous 5-times "ok google" to get rid of that message on the watch face? Seriously, who thought this was a good design? Why did many of our watches get nearly bricked after a Android Wear update on the phone? Why can't I use my watch or transfer music while it's charging? Why do I have to go through this elaborate process to view/access my list of apps?
Sorry for the rant. Last year I read a book titled "How Google Tests Software", which I found quite interesting at the time. This crap certainly gives me a different perspective..

aperry said:
I was impacted by this as well. After finding my watch on the charger yesterday morning red-hot and unusable (the same repeating error message mentioned earlier) I finally got it working by attempting a factory reset about 5+ times over the course of over an hour. It finally seemed to "take".
I've had this watch for about a week and while I like it and I'll keep it, I'm also coming to the conclusion that Google does not have it's A-team working on Android Wear. There are some really hacky implementations in here. I mean, why do my offline music transfers (phone to watch) automatically stop with no warning when the phone drops to 50% battery (which happens about about 50 songs). Why do I have to go through this ridiculous 5-times "ok google" to get rid of that message on the watch face? Seriously, who thought this was a good design? Why did many of our watches get nearly bricked after a Android Wear update on the phone? Why can't I use my watch or transfer music while it's charging? Why do I have to go through this elaborate process to view/access my list of apps?
Sorry for the rant. Last year I read a book titled "How Google Tests Software", which I found quite interesting at the time. This crap certainly gives me a different perspective..
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I tend to disagree. I was having the same problem and I wasn't even able to set my moto 360 as those messages were constantly popping up. However, I came across the contacting google option, and within a minute after I made the request, they have actually got someone from the android wear team to call me... all the way to Australia and resolve my problem over the phone! Just because you read a book bad mouthing Google, doesn't mean it's all that crap!!

I took JustinConnor's reply and edited it a little, becase the original one was just partly helpful for me, so all the steps: (but still: BIG THATNKS, MAN!)
Delete android wear app from your phone
Download the last good version of ANDROID WEAR - for me it was version 1-1-1-1876095.
Make Factory Reset to your watch (not the sowt refactory reset - but REAL refactory reset through recovery mode with black-background (more of this in the end)
connect your watch to your phone via downloaded android wear app
Factory reset menu should look like black background and console-like words in the front (unfortunately I can't post links because I haven't posted 10 times yet - so forum do not allow me to do that).

zacharywater said:
I tend to disagree. I was having the same problem and I wasn't even able to set my moto 360 as those messages were constantly popping up. However, I came across the contacting google option, and within a minute after I made the request, they have actually got someone from the android wear team to call me... all the way to Australia and resolve my problem over the phone! Just because you read a book bad mouthing Google, doesn't mean it's all that crap!!
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I'll admit that my post was born out of frustration, but I do want to clarify that the "book" I referenced was written *by* Google employees and it doesn't bad-mouth them at all. It describes with a great degree of pride their software testing process, and it's a good read for anyone in the industry.
I do continue to be frustrated by many of the design decisions in Android Wear, and I maintain they must have their B-team working on this, or at least on the design. For some reason the "ok google" message started reappearing all of the sudden the other day (after I had gone through the ridiculous steps to make it go away days before). It's probably because I don't use the feature very much, but why do I need to be reminded of this in a way that completely interferes with my watch face? Then I was out for a run yesterday and my offline music playback just stopped at 15% battery. I guess it's to protect me from myself, kind of like how the music transfer from phone to watch automatically stops at 50% battery and doesn't work at all while the watch is on the charger. Offline playback was one of the important use cases for me (jogging without phone!). It works, but it's a poor user experience. Don't get me wrong, I like the watch and I personally think it's the best looking smartwatch on the market. It has some cool features, and it's good enough to keep using daily. But the software is disappointing and it's hard for me to recommend this to any of my friends. I was lucky enough to get a deal on it for about $100, and I'd probably be much more disappointed had I paid full price.
PS: Count me as one of the people really interested to see how this upcoming wifi functionality will work. I can get about 2 days out of this watch when I'm pretty careful with it. I can deal with 2 days. But any significant active use seems to drain the battery quickly. I'm having trouble understanding how a persistent wifi connection with the cloud will not eat through the battery in a matter of just a few hours, but I'm hoping Google will pull a rabbit out of its hat here. I just hope it's more than a half-baked checkmark on the "iwatch versus android" checklist.

My watch wont charge and i cant fatory reset it either, someone anyone know what to do?

Can you be a little bit more specific?
I had Friday the same issue after updating to Android Wear 1.1.1.1901499 with Google Play Services 7.3.36 .
Charging didn't work, because always the pop-up "Unfortunately,.... bla bla bla" so I turned off the watch.
Put on the charging cradle and let it charge until it turned on by itself.
20% charged, so turned off again and keep charging
At 35% I started the "Reset Watch-Game" interrupted several times by the "Unfortunately,...."
After felt 1 hour tapping the message away, the Moto360 finally made a reset, installed the previous Android Version and since then I am fine.
Today Google updated Android Wear to 1.1.1.1901499 by PlayStore, however my Google Play Service stays on 7.3.34.
I suspect Google Play Services 7.3.36 is only for FW 5.1.1 and won't work well with FW 5.02
Cheers
Tom

tom1807 said:
Can you be a little bit more specific?
I had Friday the same issue after updating to Android Wear 1.1.1.1901499 with Google Play Services 7.3.36 .
Charging didn't work, because always the pop-up "Unfortunately,.... bla bla bla" so I turned off the watch.
Put on the charging cradle and let it charge until it turned on by itself.
20% charged, so turned off again and keep charging
At 35% I started the "Reset Watch-Game" interrupted several times by the "Unfortunately,...."
After felt 1 hour tapping the message away, the Moto360 finally made a reset, installed the previous Android Version and since then I am fine.
Today Google updated Android Wear to 1.1.1.1901499 by PlayStore, however my Google Play Service stays on 7.3.34.
I suspect Google Play Services 7.3.36 is only for FW 5.1.1 and won't work well with FW 5.02
Cheers
Tom
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Is there a required battery percent to reset?

POLL: How is Oreo working for you now that it's released?

Just curious to see how people are finding the new Oreo for the S7/S7 edge. For me, it's great. Definitely I do see an improvement in performance. Sluggishness is definitely reduced from what I was experiencing in Nougat. Battery life appears to be the same, if not a bit better, but it's hard to tell.
Only issue I've seen is some apps I have are not Oreo ready (such as the previous Power Amp beta, but there is an Alpha out right now that works but is very incomplete in things such as Playlists).
I have noticed that some apps no longer give notifications at all (mainly games with in-app notifications). Not sure if it's because they're not up-to-snuff with Oreo, but the important apps (such as Messenger+) do work just fine in regards to notifications.
Overall, I'm very pleased with this release which in all honesty will probably be the last upgrade for this phone. I still love my S7 and hope it lasts a long time for me.

This update is fantastic as far as I'm concerned. My phone seems to be more responsive and doesn't lag as much as it did on Nougat. Battery life has been better since the update. Somehow my fingerprint scan to unlock is 1,000 times better. Was always having issue with it before this update. I am also getting slightly better reception. I get slightly better reception in my office area where I previously had little to no reception. I like how some of the items in the pull down notification shade are compacted like your Wi-Fi connection, so they don't take up as much room. Feels like I have a new phone, and I also hope this last major update we will get will help my S7 last for a long time.

I agree, much snappier. I not having to keep putting down apps and restarting to keep it that way either. It makes my s7 a keeper for another year at least. None of the new features really apply to the way I use my device, so no difference there for me.
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Adaptive icons suck. Had to download an icon pack to return all of the Google apps to "normal". Bright white circles in my dark theme....
Other than that, I'll have to mess around more before I see if there's been much change. Haven't really noticed more responsiveness.

one word. HORRIBLE! Battery life has literally been cut by 40-60% with the exact same use as before even with power saver on, weird lag issues when I'm trying to multitask, incoming calls wont take precedence over whatever else is currently on screen, screen wont light up on incoming calls when idle, VZW caller id no longer works on unknown calls, fingerprint unlock no longer works just keeps saying "wipe home key and try again", while talking on the phone if the other person gets another call i now hear it ringing on my side and this is just after 2 days...... worst update ever to what was a flawlessly performing device. Wondering if I need to do a factory reset and start fresh

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one word. HORRIBLE! Battery life has literally been cut by 40-60% with the exact same use as before even with power saver on, weird lag issues when I'm trying to multitask, incoming calls wont take precedence over whatever else is currently on screen, screen wont light up on incoming calls when idle, VZW caller id no longer works on unknown calls, fingerprint unlock no longer works just keeps saying "wipe home key and try again", while talking on the phone if the other person gets another call i now hear it ringing on my side and this is just after 2 days...... worst update ever to what was a flawlessly performing device. Wondering if I need to do a factory reset and start fresh
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A factory reset would be a good place to start, especially after a major update.

I did the full reset with the Odin package and it is very smooth with better battery life, even with battery saver off.

tylerhole said:
A factory reset would be a good place to start, especially after a major update.
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it took 5 tries but I was finally able to get it to wipe/reset, kept giving me a "system update failed, no recovery package found" error. Resetting it seems to have cured the battery, heat and lag issues and is running smoothly again, only issue I still have is a slight delay in waking the phone on incoming calls but I can live with that

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it took 5 tries but I was finally able to get it to wipe/reset, kept giving me a "system update failed, no recovery package found" error. Resetting it seems to have cured the battery, heat and lag issues and is running smoothly again, only issue I still have is a slight delay in waking the phone on incoming calls but I can live with that
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Glad to hear it worked. not sure what you can do about the lag when waking, maybe it'll work itself out in time.
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zachjf said:
it took 5 tries but I was finally able to get it to wipe/reset, kept giving me a "system update failed, no recovery package found" error. Resetting it seems to have cured the battery, heat and lag issues and is running smoothly again, only issue I still have is a slight delay in waking the phone on incoming calls but I can live with that
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Glad it's working now. Were you rooted and/or modified any of the default system apps? That can cause issues as well. I haven't rooted the S7 ever since I first got it over 1.5 years ago because I never had the need to. It's always been pretty good and stable except Nougat. It started out fine, but as time went on it got progressively worse. I didn't have to do a factory reset and so far, Oreo has been a dream come true.
People's mileage will vary depending on their use and any mods they may have done to their phones. Also, remember that not all apps are written to Oreo specs. Whenever there is a major upgrade, certain APIs and other programming techniques that might have worked (or been allowed to happen) under older versions of Android may now be no longer allowed. That can result in apps misbehaving under Oreo and thereby causing the symptoms you see (battery drain, sluggishness, etc). That's why it's always best to see if any apps you have installed have been updated to work correctly with Oreo.
Another option would have been to uninstall apps one by one to see if things improved after they were removed. At that point, you have found your culprit.
I usually do an update of all apps before doing an upgrade because a lot of devs will push out updates to make their apps conform to the next Android version's standards. That has usually allowed me to avoid any issues. Problem is, not all apps are kept up-to-date because the developer has moved on to other things, etc. But, if any apps that haven't been updated in a long time are still on after I upgrade, I usually would remove those first and that usually cured my ills. But, it is rare that I have the problem because I usually don't keep old, stale apps around. I'm a stickler for that for some reason.
In any case, glad you got it working!

iBolski said:
Just curious to see how people are finding the new Oreo for the S7/S7 edge. For me, it's great. Definitely I do see an improvement in performance. Sluggishness is definitely reduced from what I was experiencing in Nougat. Battery life appears to be the same, if not a bit better, but it's hard to tell.
Only issue I've seen is some apps I have are not Oreo ready (such as the previous Power Amp beta, but there is an Alpha out right now that works but is very incomplete in things such as Playlists).
I have noticed that some apps no longer give notifications at all (mainly games with in-app notifications). Not sure if it's because they're not up-to-snuff with Oreo, but the important apps (such as Messenger+) do work just fine in regards to notifications.
Overall, I'm very pleased with this release which in all honesty will probably be the last upgrade for this phone. I still love my S7 and hope it lasts a long time for me.
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I had no problem at all updating. Went real smooth. My battery has better life and the heat/battery/lag/slow boot are so much betterer. The only things I miss is dolby and viper for sound quality being non rooted. I listen to a lot of music and now have to use an old rooted S5 for my music. Thank you for the release. I've only had it installed for a day and if I notice any issues I will post

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I had no problem at all updating. Went real smooth. My battery has better life and the heat/battery/lag/slow boot are so much betterer. The only things I miss is dolby and viper for sound quality being non rooted. I listen to a lot of music and now have to use an old rooted S5 for my music. Thank you for the release. I've only had it installed for a day and if I notice any issues I will post
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Hey mate, did you know that root for Oreo was released recently?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/how-to/root-s7-s7edge-oreo-nougat-t3819616
Bless jkruse, been using his roms / tools since my One+ 1

Awful, but to be fair, the phone has been horrible for several months now. Did the update to Oreo first, but phone was slow. Decided to do a factory data reset and start fresh with Oreo. It was a little bit better, but not great. Then I installed the g930vvrs4crg2 update and it got worse. Last try before smashing this phone is to Odin back to fresh Oreo, then install the latest update. Hopefully that helps.

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Awful, but to be fair, the phone has been horrible for several months now. Did the update to Oreo first, but phone was slow. Decided to do a factory data reset and start fresh with Oreo. It was a little bit better, but not great. Then I installed the g930vvrs4crg2 update and it got worse. Last try before smashing this phone is to Odin back to fresh Oreo, then install the latest update. Hopefully that helps.
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The Verizon firmware is awful. Flashing the unlocked firmware (930U) is miles better. Very little bloat (most can be disabled or uninstalled)

Samsung Galaxy watch active with pixel 3 xl

I got my wife the Samsung Galaxy active watch and it paired just fine with her Pixel 3 XL. The watch is missing a messaging app. She is able to get messaging notifications and reply to messages, but can't access previous messages because the little blue messaging app is nowhere on her watch. I tried to got to app store on the watch but couldn't find anything to download. All reviews on YouTube show that app right from the start. Am I missing something? Is this an option only for Galaxy phones? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

KDash4 said:
I got my wife the Samsung Galaxy active watch and it paired just fine with her Pixel 3 XL. The watch is missing a messaging app. She is able to get messaging notifications and reply to messages, but can't access previous messages because the little blue messaging app is nowhere on her watch. I tried to got to app store on the watch but couldn't find anything to download. All reviews on YouTube show that app right from the start. Am I missing something? Is this an option only for Galaxy phones? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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You won't be able to see the messages unless you you a Samsung phone (which has the messages app), but when you get a text message, it will show on the watch, you can reply back to it and see previous messages. Make sure you have "messages" notifications enabled from the wear app. I am using the galaxy watch with the pixel 3 xl.

matteosaeed said:
You won't be able to see the messages unless you you a Samsung phone (which has the messages app), but when you get a text message, it will show on the watch, you can reply back to it and see previous messages. Make sure you have "messages" notifications enabled from the wear app. I am using the galaxy watch with the pixel 3 xl.
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Hey dude, I don't have one but am considering switching to it from my Fossil Sport because the Sport battery sucks. I have a couple questions for you since you're the only person who said they have one that I found! If you don't mind:
1. What's your battery life like?
2. I use the Nike Run app... if you open it on your phone will you geet any view of it on the Samsung watch?? That is why I originally got the Fossil
3. Do you think the Active is just as good with your Pixel as it would be with a Samsung? I have an S10+ now but I change phones like most people change underwear lol.
4. Anything else you can tell me to help me make my final decision..
PLEASE!!!! lol. thanks man.

eorsini said:
Hey dude, I don't have one but am considering switching to it from my Fossil Sport because the Sport battery sucks. I have a couple questions for you since you're the only person who said they have one that I found! If you don't mind:
1. What's your battery life like?
2. I use the Nike Run app... if you open it on your phone will you geet any view of it on the Samsung watch?? That is why I originally got the Fossil
3. Do you think the Active is just as good with your Pixel as it would be with a Samsung? I have an S10+ now but I change phones like most people change underwear lol.
4. Anything else you can tell me to help me make my final decision..
PLEASE!!!! lol. thanks man.
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Hey there,
1.Battery life in my case is like around 15% usage a day which is great given, the idea of the tizen is very different than wear os. sarcastically, I got the fossil sport as well, and I have been using that over the galaxy watch. The galaxy sport would probably have a great battery as well, maybe a little less than the galaxy watch.
2. I have not seen the nike app on the galaxy watch, however, I have used s-health. I was able to get decent tracking but without a map gps, you'd be limited to mapmyrun a few other ones, I honestly only used shealth since I found third party apps to drain the battery much much much quicker.
3. Yes, going with the active would be a solid choice, again, then only thing you won't get is the ability to recall text messages at any time, but you'd be able to view them and reply back to them as notifications or as they come in + you can compose a new one. Keep in mind that it doesn't have the real bixby, it is s-voice, which is extreme trash.
I also change phones like underwear "JOD"... It even works on the iphone but that's different "you won't be able to reply to notifications or messages, just view them"
3.a -- there is an app called pulse sms I believe or something like that that would allow you to sync text messages on the watch, view them, do anything you'd want with them, just will drain your phone's battery and watch like crazy.
4. Anything to help you. Well, if you will hold onto your android wear, it is nice to have both. I went back to android wear "with the faults of it and the bad battery life over the galaxy wear stuff", for me:
Pros of the galaxy wear:
-Great battery life.
-Consistent performance "once in a while it would lag but not that much"
Cons:
-Using it as a smart device is just not great.
-It is s-voice branded bixby which is just bad, like really frustrating to use, to the point that you'd find yourself typing on the t9 keyboard they provide rather than talking to that piece of S.
-App support sucks. Forexample, I am grocery shopping and I made a list in google keep, and I don't want to have my phone out, you can't pull google keep on the watch like android wear. Also, other apps like spotify is more frustrating to use than good.
-No google assistant. I use smart home stuff, and unless you have the samsung hub, you cannot control your stuff, wink, wemo ifftt, etc. That ecosystem is still very very very poor compared to android wear.
Overall: If you are looking for a watch with great battery life, and the ability to see and minimally reply back to text messages while using stock-ish apps like s-health and you're okay with a very limited app and community support, go for it.
If you're looking to have more apps, watch-faces, voice assistant, more fitness apps, you're in the google eco-system, stay with wear OS because it can be a very unpleasant experience after the honey-moon period.
Hope this helps, let me know if you have anymore questions.

Thanks that exactly what I needed. Today my Fossil battery life was way better so maybe it just had to bake in after the recent update. I went with Android WearOS originally because of the app support and potential. I'm hoping the battery continues to get better. I was struggling to make a day without a bit of a charge, however I'm on my final walk with the dog today and it's still around 30% after a 7am wake up. I couldn't justify both watches but I'm jealous you have em lol

eorsini said:
Thanks that exactly what I needed. Today my Fossil battery life was way better so maybe it just had to bake in after the recent update. I went with Android WearOS originally because of the app support and potential. I'm hoping the battery continues to get better. I was struggling to make a day without a bit of a charge, however I'm on my final walk with the dog today and it's still around 30% after a 7am wake up. I couldn't justify both watches but I'm jealous you have em lol
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I hear you, one was a gift and I wanted the fossil and it was on discount so picked it up.

Is the GT 2 really this limited, I must be missing something?

Just got myself a GT 2 - love the hardware and just hope I will be able to live with the software. There are a few thing I haven't found, can you please let me know if I'm missing something?
Is there no way to adjust the step goal per day? It is set to 10.000 steps and I want to change it.
Can't I receive notifications while in the workout mode, like a walk och running?
If I get a notification on my phone and delete it from the phone it is still visible on my watch. And if I delete a notification on my watch it is still visible on my phone. This can't be right?
Is there no way to see coming calendar entries?
I got a Gmail but could only see the subject and sender, nothing of the content?
Is it likely that more features will be added, maybe when GT 3 is released?
After an update incomming phone calls do not show up on my watch. And in the list in the Health app I can no longer enable notifications from "Phone". Anyone else with this issue?
Would really appreciate if someone could comment on the above.
Thanks a lot!

You're right, hardware is great, software is limited.
#1, change step goal in Health app on phone (settings, goal).
#2-5, unfortunately correct.
Having said that, I'm wearing this watch since December, day and night, only taking out during shower. I have latest Samsung watches, have few Wear watches, like all of them, but GT2 just looks great and does just enough job (tell time and show notifications). I've loaded multiple custom watches and love it.

ddavtian said:
You're right, hardware is great, software is limited.
#1, change step goal in Health app on phone (settings, goal).
#2-5, unfortunately correct.
Having said that, I'm wearing this watch since December, day and night, only taking out during shower. I have latest Samsung watches, have few Wear watches, like all of them, but GT2 just looks great and does just enough job (tell time and show notifications). I've loaded multiple custom watches and love it.
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Thanks @ddavtian! I have been through every single menu without finding step goal, can you please help me find it? I consider myself as a "power user" so this is really embarrassing

Health app: Me, Settings, Goal
There you can set weight and steps goals
6. I do jot think so.
7. What firmware version are you on? Did incommig call work correctly before update?

bokyfly said:
Health app: Me, Settings, Goal
There you can set weight and steps goals
6. I do jot think so.
7. What firmware version are you on? Did incommig call work correctly before update?
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Wow, that one wasn't there until I switched to English language on my phone. Now it was there and I could finally change it. What a bug
Regarding incoming call I cannot even find "Phone" under notification settings in the long list of all available apps. It worked just fine when I got the watch a week ago. Do you have "Phone" in the app list in the Health app under "Notifications"?
Firmware: 1.0.6.32
Health app version: 10.0.5.317

No, if you gave Health app permissions, it will do its work, no need for separate settings, just watch needs to be connected to phone via bluetooth.

Question A13, another "Am I the only one?" Thread!

Ok all, I'm getting quite frustrated with my P6P. Was on A12 and sideloaded the OTA for 13 Beta 4.1. I didn't want to lose any data but also didn't want to enroll in the beta program which would have pushed the OTA anyway.
Beta was working but definitely noticed a hit to battery life at first and some weird things like running warmer, phone being warm just sitting on the pixel stand fully charged, just generally not feeling right. The good news was, it seemed to have gotten a little better over the next few days of use but still not great so when I saw stable A13 released last week, instead of going back to 12, I committed to using the Android flash tool and fully flashing A13.
After flash, I chose to restore my Google One / Drive backup and omg the battery life was completely abysmal and running hot. We are talking losing 20% per hour of light usage, standby was losing 10%+ per hour and wasn't going into deep sleep at all. I thought at first it was my Galaxy Watch4 and the Samsung health app causing the majority of the issues but when I disabled "activity tracking" on the app, it didn't fully resolve the issues.
Other issues include: taking phone out of my pocket, screen sometimes doesn't wake up (I remember this was an issue with A12 but G eventually acknowledged and fixed but I guess it's back), connected via Bluetooth to my car (no Android auto) the ring tone is no longer playing when I get a call, generally feeling not as smooth, weird system usages showing up in accubattery and the Android battery manager as using good chunks of battery, etc.
At this point I got another idea: reflash A13 but don't restore from backup (which I hate doing because then I have to go through every single setting to find stuff I changed and set it again both in the system and on apps). It seems like that helped a little with stand by battery drain but still seems to be draining at a higher level while in use. The issue of screen not waking up sometimes is still present and now, I just saw this morning that I tap on the Google Play System Updates within the security menu and it does nothing. I was able to get into it yesterday morning and it found an update (still says July 1 though) but I didn't reboot to complete it until this morning. Now I can't get into it anymore at all. I also found some weird folders in my DCIM folder and another one that referenced icloud and iphone transfers but I've never been an iphone user.
I'm so frustrated with this phone lately and it seems like no matter what I do, I cannot get it to work right with multiple little things as well as battery drain.
Am I the only one? And if not, anyone have any ideas on how to fix my issues? Is it time to contact Google for an RMA? I was one of the launch day orders so I don't know if my specific hardware is the issue. I am now locked in to 13 bc of the bootloader thing, I didn't manually flash the BL to both slots, only used official flash tool which you'd think of this was a critical thing, Google would do that with the flash tool but I guess they can't get their left hand to recognize what the right hand is doing.
Just typing this post on Chrome browser for 10 mins, burned through 4% battery.

You're not the only one...
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/wddk1s

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Thanks for that reddit article but that's not exactly answering my questions. Yes I know I'm not the only one who's had battery issues and I've gone through all those steps up to and including reflashing cleanly and wiping.
What about the other stuff I'm having issues with? Anybody else experience any of those issues? Is there anyone on 13 stable NOT having some issues with battery or other oddities?
Essentially I'm debating on wiping again and/or reloading the OS again but if others are having the same or similar issues then it may just be Google being Google and releasing a buggy build (yet again).

Side note, I also just got a notification that Google One backup is currently running and to tap for more info but yet, I don't have it plugged it nor is the phone idle. It is on wifi though but I tapped the notification and nothing was happening. It said the last backup was at 3:37am. Also, I am now down another 10% of battery since posting this with barely any usage.

Hi, I've been on Android 13 Stable for the past 7+ days, and haven't had any problems.
The only suggestion I have is a start completely fresh type, but there's no guarantee it'll fix anything. Official Google Android Flash Tool (OEM Unlocking needs to be toggled on - you may not have to manually unlock the bootloader - the "site" will do that on its own).
^ It's fixed things for many users, including myself, that nothing else including the factory image would fix, but for me, that was six months ago so obviously on Android 12, and it was a different issue than any that you're describing.

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Is there anyone on 13 stable NOT having some issues with battery or other oddities?
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I've had no issues with 13 but didn't have any on 12 either. Day one phone too.

roirraW edor ehT said:
Hi, I've been on Android 13 Stable for the past 7+ days, and haven't had any problems.
The only suggestion I have is a start completely fresh type, but there's no guarantee it'll fix anything. Official Google Android Flash Tool (OEM Unlocking needs to be toggled on - you may not have to manually unlock the bootloader - the "site" will do that on its own).
^ It's fixed things for many users, including myself, that nothing else including the factory image would fix, but for me, that was six months ago so obviously on Android 12, and it was a different issue than any that you're describing.
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I did what I thought was starting fresh the last time around (Sunday). Used the official flash tool and didn't restore anything from backup. All I did was add my Gmail accounts and then manually downloaded every app I use and then tried to set all the settings again in both system and apps to how I like them. Is there something I'm missing? Is there a difference between the pixel repair tool and the Android flash tool? What about the settings that are flash tool? I have them set to wipe, lock, and force flash everything. Not sure if that exists on pixel repair tool. I've also noticed a fairly large reduction in size of the backup that occured last night with the apps section showing only 44 apps at about 11.7MB in size when my previous backup was 60 apps at about 48.2MB. I'm thinking of just wiping/reflashing again for the 3rd time but restoring from backup this time since it really didn't make much difference.
How about the Google play system up bug thing? Can someone tap on it and see if it comes up checking for an update or if it does nothing like me. And when I say nothing, just the menu option to tap on just lights up but doesn't open anything. How about the issue with the screen not waking up if taken out of your pocket?

For what it's worth, I haven't started from scratch since I accidentally did last December (after originally setting my phone up in late October or in November). I used the Android 13 factory image over top of my existing install without wiping.
I'm under the impression that yes, there is a difference between the Pixel Repair Tool and the Android Flash Tool, but I've never actually used the Pixel Repair Tool. I know the first several months, at least, the Pixel Repair Tool hadn't yet been updated to work with the Pixel 6 Pro. It may have been updated since then, I just don't know for sure.
When I have wiped/factory reset in the past six years (starting with my Pixel 1), I always restore all or almost all data from Google's backup. I do have Swift Backup do automatic nightly backups as well, but I only restore data (through Swift Backup) for the apps that I really need to - definitely not very many.
Your settings for the Android Flash Tool sound fine.
Is the "Google Play System Up(date) bug where clicking on it doesn't do anything? If so, it doesn't do anything for me, either. Mine doesn't even light up, but I have dark mode on, plus using Pitch Black theme from AOSP mods.
I rarely have my phone in my pocket, so it probably just doesn't come up often enough for me to have noticed, so I can't confirm one way or the other.

Well, I found an answer to the Play System Updates "bug". We are not the only ones, road warrior! https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5google.com/2022/08/20/check-google-play-system-updates-pixel/amp/

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Well, I found an answer to the Play System Updates "bug". We are not the only ones, road warrior! https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5google.com/2022/08/20/check-google-play-system-updates-pixel/amp/
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Cool, thanks for sharing the news! I hadn't bothered checking manually in very many months, possibly since late last year or very early this year.

Now, on to the other stuff like no more ring sound over Bluetooth in my car, the screen not waking sometimes, terrible battery life, etc etc. Boy do I love this time of year when new the OS launches, screws up many phones and makes people trade them in for the next version. P7P here I come!

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Cool, thanks for sharing the news! I hadn't bothered checking manually in very many months, possibly since late last year or very early this year.
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Well, I found an answer to the Play System Updates "bug". We are not the only ones, road warrior! https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5google.com/2022/08/20/check-google-play-system-updates-pixel/amp/
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Google Play Store v31.9.20-21 is rolling out and will fix that Play System Updates "bug".

jrg67 said:
Now, on to the other stuff like no more ring sound over Bluetooth in my car, the screen not waking sometimes, terrible battery life, etc etc. Boy do I love this time of year when new the OS launches, screws up many phones and makes people trade them in for the next version. P7P here I come!
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Here's another weird one.. apparently now I can't keep my phone on vibrate while in the car. For a test, I turned my ringer on and then tested it again.. low and behold, it rang through the speakers in my car. This is trash. I know Android enabled in-band Bluetooth audio years ago and I recall this same thing happening way back with my nexus 6p and each pixel I've had but this one. There was a setting in developer settings to turn that off which fixed it and allowed it to work correctly but with this phone, it worked out of the box so I never thought twice about it. I just checked the dev settings and it's nowhere to be found. I have no idea what A13 could have done to screw that up nor do I know if the dev setting even existed on this phone prior to A13. I just don't get it. I guess I could see if there's any updates to my car's multimedia system but I have an Audi and any software updates come from the dealer for a price. How dumb. I guess I'll be scouring the Audi forums for a fix on that.

Meh, the Google Play Store updates are irrelevant to me. So no worries there on my part, haha. But this phone's battery life has been rather questionable. I have, however, noticed that after being on the full A13 build for around a week or so and disabling 5G from the get-go that my battery now lasts MUCH longer. My phone does not seem to generate as much heat either - which is always a plus. But I also seem to have more phone/messaging reliability than I have had in the past with this device.
I am beginning to think that the modem and 5G has had the most to do with this phone's imperfections.
Also - for OP - but I have noticed that my phone often doesn't wake up with a single tap either - but only when the gyroscope stays mostly stationary for a longer period of time. When I pull the phone out of my pocket, it usually comes on with one tap. But if it has been sitting on a table or other mostly flat surface for a while, it takes two taps to wake the display.
Ultimately, I won't be getting the Pixel 7 Pro. I will, however, be getting the Pixel Fold which should launch at around the same time =).

I can't say too much about the google provided and infiltrated system images, since I only booted it on that image ONCE -- just long enough to flip the "allow OEM unlock" switch so I could flip it to AOSP and then GrapheneOS. But I will say that on GrapheneOS, the update from 12->13 has been pretty seamless. One fairly minor glitch with activating wifi hotspot that was fixed with yesterday's SECOND update, but aside from that, not a single one of the bugs mentioned in this thread.

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I can't say too much about the google provided and infiltrated system images, since I only booted it on that image ONCE -- just long enough to flip the "allow OEM unlock" switch so I could flip it to AOSP and then GrapheneOS. But I will say that on GrapheneOS, the update from 12->13 has been pretty seamless. One fairly minor glitch with activating wifi hotspot that was fixed with yesterday's SECOND update, but aside from that, not a single one of the bugs mentioned in this thread.
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This kills me. Why is it that a third party dev can release a stable build with little to no bugs but if bugs are found, a patch is pushed out right away to fix yet Google cannot seem to get it right. Furthermore, if they do fix bugs, they refuse to push them out-of-band. This isn't 2008 anymore, we shouldn't need custom ROMs to get the best performance out of our phones.

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This kills me. Why is it that a third party dev can release a stable build with little to no bugs but if bugs are found, a patch is pushed out right away to fix yet Google cannot seem to get it right. Furthermore, if they do fix bugs, they refuse to push them out-of-band. This isn't 2008 anymore, we shouldn't need custom ROMs to get the best performance out of our phones.
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Well, aside from the bugs issue, as time goes on, more and more you need something besides what it ships with in order to actually have security and privacy. Google has fallen a very long way from the openness and respect that they once promised. The final straw for me was when they started working with governments to include and share covid contact tracing functionality.

Update:
Apparently the 4th complete wipe and OS flash was apparently the trick to fix the majority of my phone's issues. I did restore from my backup this time because the last time that I started from scratch, it made no difference. I figured if it's still going to be buggy, I may as well have all my info and settings correct. It's now been about 24 hours. See below for status of my issues.
1. Massive battery drain - fixed for the most part. Still have to restrict Samsung Health app but for the most part, it seems to be back to normal.
2. Screen not waking up when pulled from pocket or elsewhere that the proximity sensor activated and screen was off. - Fixed so far
3. Play system update button broken - already found this wasn't an A13 bug. I still haven't gotten the fixed update of playstore but before this latest wipe and OS flash, I sideloaded the latest version and it fixed it.
4. Connected to Bluetooth in car no longer plays ringers out loud. - Weird one as I think this is part A13 because Google baked in a new BT stack that's been in development since A11 called gabeldorsche https://www.androidpolice.com/android-gabeldorsche-bluetooth-stack/ and partly my infotainment system in my car. I am not on the current version of the car's infotainment but since my car is a '14 Audi, it doesn't have OTA updates.
5. Heating up during normal use - seems to be fixed
6. Warm while on the pixel stand and fully charged - haven't been able to observe this one bc last night, I put the phone on the stand and by morning it was at 72% and not charging. No clue if that's a new bug or if it was just not sitting on there just right. Didn't really look into it but we'll see what happens tonight.
So that seems to be the majority. Overall the phone doesn't feel "weird" anymore and most things I was having trouble with appear to be resolved. Sort of ridiculous that I had to wipe and reload the OS 4 times though.

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2. Screen not waking up when pulled from pocket or elsewhere that the proximity sensor activated and screen was off. - Fixed so far
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I actually had a similar issue with A12 -- when on a phone call, pull the phone away and it took forever to turn the screen back on. Seems to have been corrected with A13.

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I actually had a similar issue with A12 -- when on a phone call, pull the phone away and it took forever to turn the screen back on. Seems to have been corrected with A13.
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This one still may be around for me but perhaps not as severe as it was during the first 2 times I loaded 13. I just experienced it about an hour ago. Took phone out of my pocket to place on my desk at work and screen was black but the AOD did eventually come on by itself after about 10 long seconds. We'll see what happens.