N4 DE, TWRP & root, stuck on VZW red screen. How to go back to stock? - Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I have Note 4 DE that I've installed custom recovery (TWRP) and then flashed a SU.zip. Everything went smooth so I started installed my apps.
I also created a backup from TWRP (pre- and after root) and also full partitions backup using EFS Professional as described in this post so I should also have a phone-specific aboot partition backed up.
Today I booted up into recovery to show friend of myne how it looks like, then rebooted the phone and now it is stuck on Verizon red logo screen with slow blinking blue light. My attempt to hook up the cable and fire up EFS Pro ended up with error message saying that I do not have permanent root.
What should I do now? If there is no way to fix this and keep all installed apps, Is there a way to restore the phone to factory (while still keepping unlocked bootloader)?
Thank you in advance.

inseek said:
Hi,
I have Note 4 DE that I've installed custom recovery (TWRP) and then flashed a SU.zip. Everything went smooth so I started installed my apps.
I also created a backup from TWRP (pre- and after root) and also full partitions backup using EFS Professional as described in this post so I should also have a phone-specific aboot partition backed up.
Today I booted up into recovery to show friend of myne how it looks like, then rebooted the phone and now it is stuck on Verizon red logo screen with slow blinking blue light. My attempt to hook up the cable and fire up EFS Pro ended up with error message saying that I do not have permanent root.
What should I do now? If there is no way to fix this and keep all installed apps, Is there a way to restore the phone to factory (while still keepping unlocked bootloader)?
Thank you in advance.
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Power your phone off. Pull the battery. Put the battery back in and boot into recovery (volume up, home and power). Wipe cache and delvek. While in TWRP recovery select boot system.

jpcalhoun said:
Power your phone off. Pull the battery. Put the battery back in and boot into recovery (volume up, home and power). Wipe cache and delvek. While in TWRP recovery select boot system.
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Still on VZW red screen after booting up into recovery, selecting "Wipe", then "Advanced Wipe", checkmarking Dalvik Cache & Cache, wiping them out; and then going to "Reboot" -> System. ..

inseek said:
Still on VZW red screen after booting up into recovery, selecting "Wipe", then "Advanced Wipe", checkmarking Dalvik Cache & Cache, wiping them out; and then going to "Reboot" -> System. ..
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Hmmm, Ok. Don't worry about your bootloader it is alright, not locked. I recommend you restore your backup, either a rooted backup or a stock backup that you made right after you installed TWRP. This time wipe cache, system and delvek. I'm trying to keep you have having to wipe data, but if this doesn't work then you'll need to do a complete wipe and factory reset and then restore your backup. You may loose root, if so then after restoring your backup flash the SuperSU.zip again to regain root.

jpcalhoun said:
Hmmm, Ok. Don't worry about your bootloader it is alright, not locked. I recommend you restore your backup, either a rooted backup or a stock backup that you made right after you installed TWRP. This time wipe cache, system and delvek. I'm trying to keep you have having to wipe data, but if this doesn't work then you'll need to do a complete wipe and factory reset and then restore your backup. You may loose root, if so then after restoring your backup flash the SuperSU.zip again to regain root.
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OK, once I wipe Delvik, Chache & System, then I have to do restore from a TWRP backup I did after flashing custom recovery, right?
I have these in the list:
Boot
Recovery
System
Data
Cache
EFS
Modem​
TWRP gives me a list of partitions above, which ones should I restore? "System" is probably the one since I've wiped it up already, do I need anything else?
Thanks

inseek said:
OK, once I wipe Delvik, Chache & System, then I have to do restore from a TWRP backup I did after flashing custom recovery, right?
I have these in the list:
Boot
Recovery
System
Data
Cache
EFS
Modem​
TWRP gives me a list of partitions above, which ones should I restore? "System" is probably the one since I've wiped it up already, do I need anything else?
Thanks
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Yes, select restore and then select the backup you made. The backup will contain whatever partitions you selected when you made the backup (the partitions you've mentioned above). You won't be given a chance to select the partitions once you enter restore, only the backup file name.

jpcalhoun said:
Yes, select restore and then select the backup you made. The backup will contain whatever partitions you selected when you made the backup (the partitions you've mentioned above). You won't be given a chance to select the partitions once you enter restore, only the backup file name.
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It actually gives me an option to deselect any of partitions in the list. Which one(s) should I leave selected for restore?

inseek said:
It actually gives me an option to deselect any of partitions in the list. Which one(s) should I leave selected for restore?
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Ok, well it's been awhile since I restored anything and maybe that is a new option in the latest TWRP. Anyway, do not deselect anything unless you are worried about your apps then in that case deselect data, then restore.

jpcalhoun said:
Ok, well it's been awhile since I restored anything and maybe that is a new option in the latest TWRP. Anyway, do not deselect anything unless you are worried about your apps then in that case deselect data, then restore.
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OK, I was able to restore backup to pre-root state (without any apps installed) and then from other backup that has some apps installed. So far, so good, thank you for helping me out.
I still have a question: how do I restore to factory? I guess I need a factory image that was replaced by TWRP, and then I will use Odin to flash it? Did flashing TWRP change the KNOX bit? Is there a way to completely restore N4 DE to factory the way it came from Samsung or once custom recovery is flashed and phone rooted, there is no way back (it is showing me "Custom" every time I turn it on)? I am still in doubt if I want to keep the phone as it is very similar to my rooted N3...

inseek said:
OK, I was able to restore backup to pre-root state (without any apps installed) and then from other backup that has some apps installed. So far, so good, thank you for helping me out.
I still have a question: how do I restore to factory? I guess I need a factory image that was replaced by TWRP, and then I will use Odin to flash it? Did flashing TWRP change the KNOX bit? Is there a way to completely restore N4 DE to factory the way it came from Samsung or once custom recovery is flashed and phone rooted, there is no way back (it is showing me "Custom" every time I turn it on)? I am still in doubt if I want to keep the phone as it is very similar to my rooted N3...
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The first backup you did after you installed TWRP through ODIN is a factory image with the exception of course of the factory recovery that was replaced by TWRP. Knox will always be part of any backup unless you uninstall Knox using something like Titanium Backup. So installing a custom recovery will not replace or uninstall Knox. I caution you not to flash any factory firmware. There is no factory firmware available for the Developer Edition. If you flash a factory firmware for the Note 4 you will lock your bootloader and what you have left is a very expensive Retail version of the Note 4...locked bootloader and all. The advantage of a Developer Edition is the unlocked bootloader...don't screw that up. As far as "Custom", I don't know how to get rid of that...there is a way I just don't remember how to do it.

I just ordered my Verizon Samsung galaxy note 4.. is there a root method available for the retail version ( non developer edition ) if so can someone point me in the direction .. I'm coming from unlocked rooted note 2.. I've been searching XDA and googling the topic today and all I'm finding is just developer edition is root able .. even searched you tube.. thank you
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athack said:
I just ordered my Verizon Samsung galaxy note 4.. is there a root method available for the retail version ( non developer edition ) if so can someone point me in the direction .. I'm coming from unlocked rooted note 2.. I've been searching XDA and googling the topic today and all I'm finding is just developer edition is root able .. even searched you tube.. thank you
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Currently no root for Retail/Consumer Edition Verizon Note 4.....
Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / StarKissed / TWRP 2.8.1.1 trltevzw

Thank you...
manbat said:
Currently no root for Retail/Consumer Edition Verizon Note 4.....
Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / StarKissed / TWRP 2.8.1.1 trltevzw
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inseek said:
OK, I was able to restore backup to pre-root state (without any apps installed) and then from other backup that has some apps installed. So far, so good, thank you for helping me out.
I still have a question: how do I restore to factory? I guess I need a factory image that was replaced by TWRP, and then I will use Odin to flash it? Did flashing TWRP change the KNOX bit? Is there a way to completely restore N4 DE to factory the way it came from Samsung or once custom recovery is flashed and phone rooted, there is no way back (it is showing me "Custom" every time I turn it on)? I am still in doubt if I want to keep the phone as it is very similar to my rooted N3...
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inseek, let me correct a comment I made in a previous post "there is no firmware available for the Note 4". That's not entirely true. It is true that there is not a stock firmware .tar that you can ODIN that returns your phone to stock DE just like it came from Samsung. This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...mware-firmware-kernel-modem-recovery-t2942937 does provide a few stock .tar files that can safely be ODIN on the DE. These files do not provide the "safety net" that we would like in terms of a complete flashing of the DE back to stock, it only provides stock .tar files for several "pieces" of a complete stock ROM and bootloader. Read the OP and post 2 and 3 very carefully before you use any of those .tar files. There is no .tar for the DE aboot/bootloader. The only way you can have a backup of aboot/bootloader is to follow the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/guide-vzw-note-4-backup-developer-t2962911

jpcalhoun said:
inseek, let me correct a comment I made in a previous post "there is no firmware available for the Note 4". That's not entirely true. It is true that there is not a stock firmware .tar that you can ODIN that returns your phone to stock DE just like it came from Samsung. This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...mware-firmware-kernel-modem-recovery-t2942937 does provide a few stock .tar files that can safely be ODIN on the DE. These files do not provide the "safety net" that we would like in terms of a complete flashing of the DE back to stock, it only provides stock .tar files for several "pieces" of a complete stock ROM and bootloader. Read the OP and post 2 and 3 very carefully before you use any of those .tar files. There is no .tar for the DE aboot/bootloader. The only way you can have a backup of aboot/bootloader is to follow the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/guide-vzw-note-4-backup-developer-t2962911
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Thank you for this update, jpcalhoun.
I've followed these threads when I first flashed TWRP so I do have a backup made via TWRP (which doesn't include aboot) plus the one created via EFS Professional. I was just wondering if there is a dump of all partitions as they are coming from the factory. I am not a specialist but I was thinking that if I have aboot (which from what I read is unique for my phone), original boot partition + the remaining partitions in my backup then I should be able to restore the phone to factory state.
Is there a way to dump all partitions from a brand new N4 DE that just came from a factory? Obviously, for EFS Professional we need custom recovery + BusyBix + root to work. TWRP is capable of backing up most partitions but not aboot/boot. The way it is now, once we flash custom recovery, there is no way back as if there is something wrong with the phone, Samsung will see that "Custom" sign on the screen and from what I've read, will just re-flash a locked bootloader prior to sending the device back to the owner. I wish I knew all this prior to ordering my N4 DE

inseek said:
Thank you for this update, jpcalhoun.
I've followed these threads when I first flashed TWRP so I do have a backup made via TWRP (which doesn't include aboot) plus the one created via EFS Professional. I was just wondering if there is a dump of all partitions as they are coming from the factory. I am not a specialist but I was thinking that if I have aboot (which from what I read is unique for my phone), original boot partition + the remaining partitions in my backup then I should be able to restore the phone to factory state.
Is there a way to dump all partitions from a brand new N4 DE that just came from a factory? Obviously, for EFS Professional we need custom recovery + BusyBix + root to work. TWRP is capable of backing up most partitions but not aboot/boot. The way it is now, once we flash custom recovery, there is no way back as if there is something wrong with the phone, Samsung will see that "Custom" sign on the screen and from what I've read, will just re-flash a locked bootloader prior to sending the device back to the owner. I wish I knew all this prior to ordering my N4 DE
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I'm not a Linux guru or a ADB guru, but I think you can do that using command line scripts, but I can't swear to it.

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Need serious help resetting phone

Ok so I used to have a Samsung Captivate and knew how to root and flash ROMs, was pretty used to it.
I tried to do the same on my HOX, but ran into a bootloop and subsequently I think I've deleted everything on my phone. I used Hasoon2000's All in one kit and unlocked my bootloader, flashed TWRP v 2.3.3.0, but my problem arose after I tried to flash the kernel. It stayed in bootloop so I figured I'd back out and just restore back to the backup I made before flashing the kernel. However, after "successfully" restoring back I was still stuck in bootloop somehow. I know this isn't supposed to happen, it's supposed to restore back to the exact state of your phone at the time.
Anyways, I thought maybe I just needed to wipe things. I looked around and found a source that said to wipe cache, dalvik, factory reset, and system. Wipe those 4, but not external storage or android secure. So I wiped those 4 and I intended to try the backup again but it turns out that cleared everything on my phone. Now when I hit "restore" there is nothing to select. I also used to have a custom rom on the virtual sdcard, but that's gone too.
When in TWRP and I go into "install" the only thing in /sdcard is now TWRP. After looking around, it looks like my only option is to mount the phone to my computer via TWRP and somehow download the standard OS for my One X again. Also in the Mount menu it lists "mount system, mount data, mount cache, mount sd card" I can only check the first 3 options and when I do my computer asks me if I want to format it. I guess I can't mount the sd card because I deleted everything?
If anyone has the time to help me out that would be AMAZING. Right now I don't even care about being able to flash my custom ROM, I just want to get my phone back to functionality. I would love a conversation and would be willing to gmail chat if willing.
Also my phone is the ATT version, 2.20 (or I guess it was before I deleted everything).
Thank you in advance for any help.
I guess the fastest way to get your phone working again is using RUU file, you ll find how to do it here (method 2) or here
It stayed in bootloop so I figured I'd back out and just restore back to the backup I made before flashing the kernel. However, after "successfully" restoring back I was still stuck in bootloop somehow. I know this isn't supposed to happen, it's supposed to restore back to the exact state of your phone at the time.
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Restoring backup doesnt restore kernel ( boot.img ), you have to flash it manually with fastboot.
Dude. U think htc offers same freedom as Samsung . U are WRONG. If u flash a rom or restore a backup. U also need to flash boot.img separately from pc. Use fastboot flash boot boot.img. i assume you know the basics. Htc don't have s-off , so writing to nand protected system storage is restricted. If u read a little you might have got this. This will solve boot loop prob
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Fixed
Thanks Yasounet. I managed to flash viper in the end.

[Q] Need some adivse PLEASE!!!!

So this is the situation,
I have SPH-l710 Rooted with CWM, I THOUGHT I made a backup of my stock system.....It made a image.zip and an image directory. SOOOO I flashed the phone with CM121...........In light of all the issues I could not get my camera to work with any app, them CM121 updated, Google play got stuck in a error force close loop that could only be avoided by logging into a separate user account on lollipop. Which is where the camera began to work oddly enough. Anyways I use my camera constantly and wanted to revert back to my 4.4.2 kitkat. SOOOO I booted into recovery and when I selected restore it couldnt find anything. So I installed from the image.zip and everything appeared to be fine EXECPT I couldnt get passed the second samsung logo right after the animation. Just stuck........How can I restore my poor phone back to my system image I have saved?
I tried this multiple times, then just reloaded CM121. PLEASE HELP!!!!!
the wipe/factory reset
wipe cache
wipe dalvik x 3
You could Odin back to stock. What modem are you on? (Ex. nj3, nd8, etc)
Powered_By_Linux said:
You could Odin back to stock. What modem are you on? (Ex. nj3, nd8, etc)
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L710VPUCNJ3
I did find an image.zip and an image directory with my full phone backup i assume minus the damn splash screen that started this whole thing in the first place. Would I just use odin to flash the image.zip file to restore my original os or would I use CMW and install from zip and use the image.zip file?
And thank you for replying, it's hard to get anyone to help sometimes.
aanddink said:
L710VPUCNJ3
I did find an image.zip and an image directory with my full phone backup i assume minus the damn splash screen that started this whole thing in the first place. Would I just use odin to flash the image.zip file to restore my original os or would I use CMW and install from zip and use the image.zip file?
And thank you for replying, it's hard to get anyone to help sometimes.
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If you Odin to stock, you need a computer. You download the program (sadly Odin is leaked software so it's pretty shady; you could give Heimdall a shot but it didn't work for me, also Odin is Windows only and Heimdall is cross-platform) and then you download a .tar of a stock image and you plug your phone in in download mode and flash it.
However, there is no nj3 modem so you need to use an older one. Is your phone sprint, Virgin Mobile, boost, etc?
Edit: give this thread a look for info on stock .tars http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3121212
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Here's a good thread on instructions for flashing the ndc modem. If you use sprint, flashing nj2 should be the same process, just a different .tar. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2774333
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If you Odin to stock, you need a computer. You download the program (sadly Odin is leaked software so it's pretty shady; you could give Heimdall a shot but it didn't work for me, also Odin is Windows only and Heimdall is cross-platform) and then you download a .tar of a stock image and you plug your phone in in download mode and flash it.
However, there is no nj3 modem so you need to use an older one. Is your phone sprint, Virgin Mobile, boost, etc?
Edit: give this thread a look for info on stock .tars http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3121212
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I have Odin already from when I flashed cmw 6+ to the phone, but before I installed cm12.1 I used clockworkmod and made a backup image. It created a image.zip file, will this contain my original stock but rooted image?
aanddink said:
I have Odin already from when I flashed cmw 6+ to the phone, but before I installed cm12.1 I used clockworkmod and made a backup image. It created a image.zip file, will this contain my original stock but rooted image?
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I would assume so, however, I'm not sure. I've only used TWRP and a little Philz for recovery. Afraid I can't help you there, but someone else (or Google lol) might know
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I would assume so, however, I'm not sure. I've only used TWRP and a little Philz for recovery. Afraid I can't help you there, but someone else (or Google lol) might know
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OK I understand thanks, one more thing if I assume its a full backup of the phone would Odin be better to restore with or use whatever software created the backup?
aanddink said:
OK I understand thanks, one more thing if I assume its a full backup of the phone would Odin be better to restore with or use whatever software created the backup?
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I think Odin can only flash tars. Ideally, you'd want to restore the backup with the software that made it.
aanddink said:
I have Odin already from when I flashed cmw 6+ to the phone, but before I installed cm12.1 I used clockworkmod and made a backup image. It created a image.zip file, will this contain my original stock but rooted image?
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Cwm recovery does not create zip files. If you made a full backup in cwm it should contain system, data, and boot img files. Restore it in cwm recovery.
But to go back to KitKat from lollipop you must wipe internal storage in clockworkmod recovery first .(if that's the recovery you are using).
By the way cwm is pretty crappy. After you fix it, install twrp recovery.
madbat99 said:
Cwm recovery does not create zip files. If you made a full backup in cwm it should contain system, data, and boot img files. Restore it in cwm recovery.
But to go back to KitKat from lollipop you must wipe internal storage in clockworkmod recovery first .(if that's the recovery you are using).
By the way cwm is pretty crappy. After you fix it, install twrp recovery.
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Thanks for the reply, been tryin to get help for a while. So my version of CMW has the option to create an image backup & also create the same backup in zip format. Inside the zip and inside the image directory they have the boot img files and the system data and ect. I have 2 questions, 1 is what part of the internal storage needs to be wiped? I assume you mean format the system directory? which would wipe the os out at that point? And second since I have cmw installed if I wanted to put twrp on and not wipe the system yet would I need to just use odin and flash it to overwrite cmw? I installed cmw with odin to root the phone originally, cmw is not restoring my backups at all correctly so I would love something that would really work.
aanddink said:
Thanks for the reply, been tryin to get help for a while. So my version of CMW has the option to create an image backup & also create the same backup in zip format. Inside the zip and inside the image directory they have the boot img files and the system data and ect. I have 2 questions, 1 is what part of the internal storage needs to be wiped? I assume you mean format the system directory? which would wipe the os out at that point? And second since I have cmw installed if I wanted to put twrp on and not wipe the system yet would I need to just use odin and flash it to overwrite cmw? I installed cmw with odin to root the phone originally, cmw is not restoring my backups at all correctly so I would love something that would really work.
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By wiping internal storage, I mean internal sd card (data/media) not system.
If you cannot restore your backup, and are not worried about losing your data, I would recommend using odin to flash the whole stock .tar and starting fresh from scratch. Then re root by using odin to install twrp.
If you are on boost or virgin Mobile use the ndc tar.
madbat99 said:
By wiping internal storage, I mean internal sd card (data/media) not system.
If you cannot restore your backup, and are not worried about losing your data, I would recommend using odin to flash the whole stock .tar and starting fresh from scratch. Then re root by using odin to install twrp.
If you are on boost or virgin Mobile use the ndc tar.
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Thanks for the info, I will look into the tar I just need to make sure it's compatible with NJ3 and I am on Virgin mobile. I attached a snapshot of the file cmw created, Im pretty sure I saw a post on how to convert that into a flash-able tar file by combining them into one. That backup is clean except for a screwy boot splash screen and being rooted but besides that it was the first backup. Do you know if twrp has any issues with CM12.1? If I can flash my backup and un-root I would be able to start from scratch and do it the right way this time. I attached the snapshot just for your opinion on if I can use my backup from my phone if you dont mind, also to install twrp if I can use my backup I would need to unroot then re-root with twrp correct? Any thanks so much for the responses
aanddink said:
Thanks for the info, I will look into the tar I just need to make sure it's compatible with NJ3 and I am on Virgin mobile. I attached a snapshot of the file cmw created, Im pretty sure I saw a post on how to convert that into a flash-able tar file by combining them into one. That backup is clean except for a screwy boot splash screen and being rooted but besides that it was the first backup. Do you know if twrp has any issues with CM12.1? If I can flash my backup and un-root I would be able to start from scratch and do it the right way this time. I attached the snapshot just for your opinion on if I can use my backup from my phone if you dont mind, also to install twrp if I can use my backup I would need to unroot then re-root with twrp correct? Any thanks so much for the responses
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If you put that back on your phone in the clockworkmod folder just restore it? If you flash the ndc tar in odin you will be stock unrooted. Ndc is the build before nj3. There is no nj3 tar so ndc is fine. If you manage to restore your backup and get going, you can just get the app flashify from the play store to install twrp. Get the image file of twrp 2.8.7.0 for sprint (d2spr) and install in flashify. Get it from twrp website.
Your backup only has system in it, it has no data. Next time do a full backup. System, data, and boot. You're trying to go from cm12.1 lollipop to KitKat touchwiz without a data wipe and restore. Won't work.
Honestly dude, you seem to have limited knowledge on this. Don't take that the wrong way at all. To save us both some time and get your phone working, just follow this
It's fine to flash over nj3. I'm on virgin Mobile and I've done it a couple times. Also do a factory reset to wipe data. Also wipe internal storage (data/media).
madbat99 said:
If you put that back on your phone in the clockworkmod folder just restore it? If you flash the ndc tar in odin you will be stock unrooted. Ndc is the build before nj3. There is no nj3 tar so ndc is fine. If you manage to restore your backup and get going, you can just get the app flashify from the play store to install twrp. Get the image file of twrp 2.8.7.0 for sprint (d2spr) and install in flashify. Get it from twrp website.
Your backup only has system in it, it has no data. Next time do a full backup. System, data, and boot. You're trying to go from cm12.1 lollipop to KitKat touchwiz without a data wipe and restore. Won't work.
Honestly dude, you seem to have limited knowledge on this. Don't take that the wrong way at all. To save us both some time and get your phone working, just follow this
It's fine to flash over nj3. I'm on virgin Mobile and I've done it a couple times. Also do a factory reset to wipe data. Also wipe internal storage (data/media).
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Not taken the wrong way, I am limited knowledge on the subject and that's why I ended up with problems. I appreciate the help since I could not get anyone to respond.
madbat99 said:
If you put that back on your phone in the clockworkmod folder just restore it? If you flash the ndc tar in odin you will be stock unrooted. Ndc is the build before nj3. There is no nj3 tar so ndc is fine. If you manage to restore your backup and get going, you can just get the app flashify from the play store to install twrp. Get the image file of twrp 2.8.7.0 for sprint (d2spr) and install in flashify. Get it from twrp website.
Your backup only has system in it, it has no data. Next time do a full backup. System, data, and boot. You're trying to go from cm12.1 lollipop to KitKat touchwiz without a data wipe and restore. Won't work.
Honestly dude, you seem to have limited knowledge on this. Don't take that the wrong way at all. To save us both some time and get your phone working, just follow this
It's fine to flash over nj3. I'm on virgin Mobile and I've done it a couple times. Also do a factory reset to wipe data. Also wipe internal storage (data/media).
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I appreciate the link, understand the process. Just wondering the link to the .tar file is broken (at least for the moment) I will continue to try it, do you know if the zip file from samsung-updates " L710VPUDND8 firmware version for Galaxy S 3 LTE (Sprint) "
will work also?
aanddink said:
I appreciate the link, understand the process. Just wondering the link to the .tar file is broken (at least for the moment) I will continue to try it, do you know if the zip file from samsung-updates " L710VPUDND8 firmware version for Galaxy S 3 LTE (Sprint) "
will work also?
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Nd8 will work, however nj2 is the sprint equivalent to nj3 (latest update). It works fine. It's the last one I used. You may need to do the dialer activation code to get service working after you flash. I think it's ##72786# . I'll check.
here is nj2.

Stuck on boot after re-installing stock recovery

Hi, when I got the phone I rooted it by installing TWP recovery, it was all working fine after that until an OTA update popped up, after some research I learned that in order to install OTA updates you need to install stock recovery. Firstly, not knowing entirely what I was doing I installed the stock recovery for the wrong software version. The phone booted however and I tried to install the OTA update, upon restarting I was met with the "red triangle" error screen. I restarted the phone and it booted up fine.
Then having found the correct stock recovery (4.16.401.10) I installed it and ran the update again. It seemed to be going fine with the loading bars moving along nicely when it got stuck on the HTC bootup logo. From here I restarted it and now the phone turns on, shows the htc logo, then gets stuck on a black screen,
Please help, Thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/boot-loop-problem-t3194508
ckpv5 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/boot-loop-problem-t3194508
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Hi, thanks for that, I guess I should have searched around harder. One question though, you mention that there is a way to restore just system to keep your data, I don't wanna loose all of my data so I'd like to do that, I'm just not sure how to apply that to your guide, what is it that I have to do differently to keep my data?
Thanks.
DarwinW said:
Hi, thanks for that, I guess I should have searched around harder. One question though, you mention that there is a way to restore just system to keep your data, I don't wanna loose all of my data so I'd like to do that, I'm just not sure how to apply that to your guide, what is it that I have to do differently to keep my data?
Thanks.
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2 options :
1.
In step 8, select dalvik cache, cache, system but don't select data
In step 9, tick only boot & system and don't tick data
or
2.
Make a nandroid backup of your current ROM
Do all the steps, once completed the OTA reinstall TWRP and restore only data from your earlier made nandroid backup
Thank you so much, you're amazing. Just creating a backup now. So once I've flashed the stock rom and the TWRP recovery to restore my data, if I then install the stock recovery again, should it all work fine? or does changing the recovery at any point stop OTA updates working?
The reason I rooted my phone to start with was to use titanium backup to restore apps from a previous phone, so if I can get the phone all stock just with my data, then I don't really need root.
Thanks!
DarwinW said:
Thank you so much, you're amazing. Just creating a backup now. So once I've flashed the stock rom and the TWRP recovery to restore my data, if I then install the stock recovery again, should it all work fine? or does changing the recovery at any point stop OTA updates working?
The reason I rooted my phone to start with was to use titanium backup to restore apps from a previous phone, so if I can get the phone all stock just with my data, then I don't really need root.
Thanks!
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That's almost same as option 1 above. You need stock recovery for OTA to work.
Most important is the system part must be stock with nothing changed.
Personally, I always do option 2 to make sure OTA is successfully done .. then restore data.
One thing to note ... you don't need to relock bootloader doing all these process.
Also, now that I've created the backup (stored to the phones storage), how do I transfer that to my PC, since the phone doesn't boot, the computer doesn't recognize the storage.
Thanks.
In TWRP you have option to enable MTP then both your internal storage and microSD can be opened on PC
Make sure to use TWRP 2.8.4.0 or newer or latest. I'm still on TWRP 2.8.6.0
It seems I'm on an older version of twrp (2.7.0.2), I made the backup using this version. If I update to a newer version now will the restore work properly?
Thanks.
Usually yes we can restore a backup made with older TWRP version but I'm not so sure about 2.7.0.2 as that is the buggiest TWRP among all versions but very popular because it is included in one very old and not updated toolkit.
Why don't install latest/newer TWRP then redo the backup then transfer to PC.
I'm having trouble viewing files on my pc, I select "mount" from the main twrp menu, it then shows a screen to select which partitions to mount, I tick them, then nothing happens. There's no button to actually start the mount.
I did mentioned enable MTP function ... see below on the right side you should see Disable MTP or Enable MTP (beside Mount USB Storage) .. not those partitions to mount (but in the same screen)
I think you were right about that version being buggy. Those buttons on the bottom were missing. Just installed the latest twrp and I can mount now as the buttons to mount are showing up. Hopefully all will be fine now
Thanks.
Hi, I'm following the guide now and when I try to wipe the phone it doesn't work, I get:
Wipe Complete
Failed
"Unable to mount /cache
failed to wipe dalvik"
This error repeats a few times.
Thanks.
EDIT** scratch that, sorted it
Horray! Everything has now worked out and my phone is back to it's old self with the update, thank you so much ckpv5! you're the best.

Question about a full backup and rooting

Hi,
I recently tried a custom rom on my old phone and it worked pretty well. I liked the OS and now want to also do that on my current phone. But i do still have a few questions i hope you can help me with.
- Can i make a full backup of my phone (with app data) to my PC or maybe to my old phone? I am currently not rooted and tried helium backup but saw that sadly not all apps allow a backup.
- I know about titanium backup. Is there some way (if the above cant be done) i can root my phone without wiping the phone? So i can then use titanium backup to make a proper backup with data, then install the custom rom and after restore the apps+data.
In short: I hope i can somehow make a full backup with app data so i can install the custom rom and restore my app data again.
Looking forward to your replies.
Thanks in advance.
Nothing? No one ? =(
To root you need to unlock the bootloader, which wipes all user data. So you can't use root to backup your data. This is why I unlock the bootloader immediately after getting a phone.
You can try an adb backup though.
razr96 said:
To root you need to unlock the bootloader, which wipes all user data. So you can't use root to backup your data. This is why I unlock the bootloader immediately after getting a phone.
You can try an adb backup though.
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Thank you for your reply and thx for the tip. Ill be doing that too from now on when i get a phone.
As long as i can make a full backup with abd (with app data), Im fine with wiping to root it. But just wanted to make sure i can get app data back after the root process.
Do you happen to have a link to a proper backup using abd guide?
Thanks
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sm00th4f3 said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/how-to-backup-restore-android-device-t3602583
You might wanna read this and try it
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/adb-fastboot-commands-bootloader-kernel-t3597181
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Well with a few side searches i was able to open the cmd (admin), do a adb devices (which found a device) and then run the app + data command.
('adb backup -apk -shared -all -system -f C:\backup.ab')
I saw the screen on my phone to start it, which i did but it stays on Shared Storage (where before this mentioned the apk's that were being backed up). This is taking pretty long (as in hours). Is this normal or did something went wrong and is it stuck on that part?
Edit (Update): I stopped the whole thing and tried again. Now it finished in about 10 - 15 min. I did get a message "backup finished". However in the folder i gave up, there is nothing to see. folder is still empty
Edit2 (update): Found the backup.ab file. Apparently it was in a different folder i thought it would be. So if i then also make a copy of the internal storage and do this command, i should be good right? After doing that, unlock and root, i can use the 'adb restore C:\backup.ab' and have all apps + app data back as it was before the unlock/root ?
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sm00th4f3 said:
In a sense. Yes, but you might wanna read some threads about that first.. Otherwise. No one would wanna go back after unlocking his phone. Since restoring a backup from a locked phone on an unlocked phone can cause some issues.
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I'm not really sure what you mean though.
If i unlock my phone with my code and then make the backup with adb and just in case, a copy of my internal storage, can't i use restore on the unlocked/rooted phone to have the apps + their data back and use them again ?
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sm00th4f3 said:
No you can't. It will brick your device. The backup can only be used when your phone is still locked. So it is basically not needed at all.
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So you are saying that there is no possibility to backup my apps+data, unlock/root/custom rom, and then restore my apps+data at all?
That was some what the question of my first post.
So its either, fully wipe with everything lost, then root etc. etc. or just keep it the way i have it now?
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sm00th4f3 said:
The normal procedure is as follows:
After an unlock.- your data always gets formatted. So a backup is totally wasted time.
The backup isn't wasted time - if it is done after unlocking your phone, while it still has stock rom.
In case flashing goes wrong, make the backup while not having flashed twro etc at all.
You don't have to wipe anything if you just want root, since the phone will reset-wipe your data on its very own.
Just unlock it, let it reboot, Flash twrp, install root zip file. Reboot
In case of flashing a custom rom. Flash twrp, boot to twrp. Use the Reboot menu and reboot again into recovery
Reboot->Recovery (in twrp menu).
Then Wipe-> Factory Reset
Wipe-> Advanced Wipe-> Wipe System partition only
Wipe-> Advanced wipe-> select Data partition-> Change file system to ext4
Reboot Menu in TWRP->Recovery
Wipe Dalvik and Cache
Flash Rom
Flash Gapps if not stated otherwise in Instructions of Rom Thread
Flash Magisk or SUperSu , depends if you want root or not. If you don'T want encryption on older Roms, flash one of the two.
Encryption will later on be optional through Phone Security Options.
Wipe dalvik and cache.
Reboot.
Wait a bit.
Setup phone, done.
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Yes but as you mentioned, unlocking means a full wipe. And i cant restore apps + their data from a stock phone backup to an unlocked phone as it can cause issues.
In my very first post i asked if i could make a backup of the apps + their data to restore them after unlocking/rooting/custom rom or whatever. Simple answer then is no.
So i either have to just wipe my phone and basically start all over, only unlock/root etc etc first.
Or just keep my phone stock like how it is now and just do nothing and wait until i get a new phone (which will be in a long time still)

Hi somebody can help me?

My Question is About Twrp, if i make a Back-up of my system completery, and install a ROM and not liked her or bricked my device (Mi a2 Lite) i can take back again, right? without install a ROM stock? Thansk for Answering ? i make one time but Using a Clockwordmod on samsung Old i bricked the device and i Restore a Backup and Back
Sorry about My english bad
Yes, but use unofficial TWRP from ROM section not the official one.
Backup boot, system image, vendor image and data.
Works for custom ROMs, not sure about stock ROM.
Also backup EFS and persist once in case you lost IMEI or sensors.
Pat750 said:
Yes, but use unofficial TWRP from ROM section not the official one.
Backup boot, system image, vendor image and data.
Works for custom ROMs, not sure about stock ROM.
Also backup EFS and persist once in case you lost IMEI or sensors.
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I unlocked my bootloader yesterday and my user data and files have not been deleted
but my other question is If i install twrp i lose?
[email protected] said:
I unlocked my bootloader yesterday and my user data and files have not been deleted
but my other question is If i install twrp i lose?
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I'm surprised that unlocking didn't delete your data, for me it did and it usually does.
For TWRP use fastboot boot <filename>.img to boot it and then flash the zip.
Normally that doesn't delete data, but always backup important data first.
I'm not sure how good TWRP handles encrypted data...I'm always unencrypted.
Before TWRP backup people say to remove pins and maybe fingerprints first (there are zip files for that) because then restoring will work better.
Good luck, happy flashing and first search and read if you are unsure.
Pat750 said:
I'm surprised that unlocking didn't delete your data, for me it did and it usually does.
For TWRP use fastboot boot <filename>.img to boot it and then flash the zip.
Normally that doesn't delete data, but always backup important data first.
I'm not sure how good TWRP handles encrypted data...I'm always unencrypted.
Before TWRP backup people say to remove pins and maybe fingerprints first (there are zip files for that) because then restoring will work better.
Good luck, happy flashing and first search and read if you are unsure.
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before i Unlock the BL i pressed the button "Down" of sound and not deleted My Data :3

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