Hello HTC One M8 users out there could you help me identify if this is Genuine or Clone HTC One M8? I don't want to end up getting Clone especially when I am dealing with the Chinese sellers!
Seller sells all M8 versions including Chinese/HK/European/USA
European version 32GB price is 290 USD which is bit hard to believe
I am uploading some pictures which users have posted after receiving the item.
Also, I would like to know what is European version is called? Such as M8T is for China mobile! There are many models out there like M8S/Y/W etc
maheshpatel said:
Hello HTC One M8 users out there could you help me identify if this is Genuine or Clone HTC One M8? I don't want to end up getting Clone especially when I am dealing with the Chinese sellers!
Seller sells all M8 versions including Chinese/HK/European/USA
European version 32GB price is 290 USD which is bit hard to believe
I am uploading some pictures which users have posted after receiving the item.
Also, I would like to know what is European version is called? Such as M8T is for China mobile! There are many models out there like M8S/Y/W etc
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All the pics look genuine.. Bootloader looks good. Prices are insane if you're from India, confirm whether they'll work with 2300Mhz LTE, that's what's coming here mostly
n1234d said:
All the pics look genuine.. Bootloader looks good. Prices are insane if you're from India, confirm whether they'll work with 2300Mhz LTE, that's what's coming here mostly
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Yes, It does look genuine but Chinese peoples have released realistic looking clone M8. When we ask whether it's genuine or not they tell it's genuine even if it is high imitation. Yes, Prices are insane. Only European/USA/HK model prices are somewhere b/w 300-325 USD
Chinese model of M8 is priced at 480-500 USD which is TD LTE and it does support 2300Mhz AFAIK but I don't mind FDD LTE European model which supports 1800Mhz cause of International ROM support.
I have researched about LTE band frequency in India Reliance is gonna lunch LTE on both frequency 1800Mhz FDD LTE and 2300Mhz TDD LTE Airtel as we know already has 2300Mhz TDD LTE but they have started 1800Mhz FDD LTE as well as and Videocon has already acquired 1800Mhz FDD LTE spectrum in six circles. Vodafone and Idea will also lunch 4G on 1800Mhz FDD LTE next year. 1800Mhz frequency is more preferred than 2300Mhz cause of towers and less handsets are available in the market which supports 2300Mhz TDD LTE :fingers-crossed:
maheshpatel said:
Yes, It does look genuine but Chinese peoples have released realistic looking clone M8. When we ask whether it's genuine or not they tell it's genuine even if it is high imitation. Yes, Prices are insane. Only European/USA/HK model prices are somewhere b/w 300-325 USD
Chinese model of M8 is priced at 480-500 USD which is TD LTE and it does support 2300Mhz AFAIK but I don't mind FDD LTE European model which supports 1800Mhz cause of International ROM support.
I have researched about LTE band frequency in India Reliance is gonna lunch LTE on both frequency 1800Mhz FDD LTE and 2300Mhz TDD LTE Airtel as we know already has 2300Mhz TDD LTE but they have started 1800Mhz FDD LTE as well as and Videocon has already acquired 1800Mhz FDD LTE spectrum in six circles. Vodafone and Idea will also lunch 4G on 1800Mhz FDD LTE next year. 1800Mhz frequency is more preferred than 2300Mhz cause of towers and less handsets are available in the market which supports 2300Mhz TDD LTE :fingers-crossed:
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All European/unlocked models are 16gig Btw. Only us models are 32gig. Also, you can tell from pictures of the bootloader and the serial numbers that these are indeed genuine handsets. Also, I'm pretty sure even the China ones have international rom support, just no dual sim or eye. Hoping for 1800Mhz, currently using reliance in Mumbai, but their 3G service in a car or train is just horrible.
n1234d said:
All European/unlocked models are 16gig Btw. Only us models are 32gig. Also, you can tell from pictures of the bootloader and the serial numbers that these are indeed genuine handsets. Also, I'm pretty sure even the China ones have international rom support, just no dual sim or eye. Hoping for 1800Mhz, currently using reliance in Mumbai, but their 3G service in a car or train is just horrible.
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Uh-oh! But, Seller mentions that he has both 16 GB & 32GB European models. I haven't talked with him yet. Let me talk to him. It is strange that 16GB European model price is 30 USD higher than the 32GB.
Yeah, There's a Chinese forum for Smartphones just like we have XDA but it's all in the Chinese language and even if I flash those ROM one disadvantage would be Chinese language everywhere
How much speed you getting on Reliance 3G network? I think Reliance is as costlier as Vodafone/Airtel/Idea when it comes to 3G Data. I have never used Reliance so dunno about their network range. I have heard Vodafone. They have some good coverage.
maheshpatel said:
Uh-oh! But, Seller mentions that he has both 16 GB & 32GB European models. I haven't talked with him yet. Let me talk to him. It is strange that 16GB European model price is 30 USD higher than the 32GB.
Yeah, There's a Chinese forum for Smartphones just like we have XDA but it's all in the Chinese language and even if I flash those ROM one disadvantage would be Chinese language everywhere
How much speed you getting on Reliance 3G network? I think Reliance is as costlier as Vodafone/Airtel/Idea when it comes to 3G Data. I have never used Reliance so dunno about their network range. I have heard Vodafone. They have some good coverage.
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I'm sure all unlocked phones are 16gig models.
And what I was saying is that I'm 90% sure you you can flash normal roms on a Chinese phone, from xda. ViperOne for example, works on the m8_tl
I've never used any other provider except Reliance. In fact, my entire family uses reliance. Their customer service is pretty good in Mumbai, and coverage is excellent almost everywhere. Earlier, I've got upto 15 Mb/s but since the past few months, it doesn't go above 5Mb/s. But speeds are okay, what I hate is that data stops transmitting sometimes (even with full network) in the middle of loading a Web page or a video, and anything that requires continuous data transfer (I use a CCTV application, and can't see more than 5 seconds of a live stream) will just lose data for like 30 seconds, sometimes longer, and then come back. So it's good enough for light browsing, and chatting etc, but is just okay otherwise. This all is while moving about in a car or train.. If i'm at home (where, again I get full coverage), it's much, much better. Also, I think it's the cheapest for data. I have been getting(prepaid) 2 gb of data for 177, with free unlimited whatsapp, fb, and Twitter for the past two months (1gb+1gb free)
Postpaid is 123 for 1gig and 246 for 2 etc
Reliance Jio 4g supposedly is gonna be very good, so fingers crossed
n1234d said:
I'm sure all unlocked phones are 16gig models.
And what I was saying is that I'm 90% sure you you can flash normal roms on a Chinese phone, from xda. ViperOne for example, works on the m8_tl
I've never used any other provider except Reliance. In fact, my entire family uses reliance. Their customer service is pretty good in Mumbai, and coverage is excellent almost everywhere. Earlier, I've got upto 15 Mb/s but since the past few months, it doesn't go above 5Mb/s. But speeds are okay, what I hate is that data stops transmitting sometimes (even with full network) in the middle of loading a Web page or a video, and anything that requires continuous data transfer (I use a CCTV application, and can't see more than 5 seconds of a live stream) will just lose data for like 30 seconds, sometimes longer, and then come back. So it's good enough for light browsing, and chatting etc, but is just okay otherwise. This all is while moving about in a car or train.. If i'm at home (where, again I get full coverage), it's much, much better. Also, I think it's the cheapest for data. I have been getting(prepaid) 2 gb of data for 177, with free unlimited whatsapp, fb, and Twitter for the past two months (1gb+1gb free)
Postpaid is 123 for 1gig and 246 for 2 etc
Reliance Jio 4g supposedly is gonna be very good, so fingers crossed
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The version he is showing in the screenshots is locked. So yes, it could be 32gb.
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Also, I have the international version. It is 32gb. I unlocked it myself.
xunholyx said:
The version he is showing in the screenshots is locked. So yes, it could be 32gb.
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Also, I have the international version. It is 32gb. I unlocked it myself.
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Not what I'm talking about. HTC sells an international variant for european countries and the rest of the world, which are 16gig models only. Only m8s for the American market are 32gigs. When I said unlocked, I meant the ones htc officially sells outside the US. (HTC__001, HTC__Y13 etc) Also, we're talking carrier unlocked, not bootloader unlocked. Also, the phone with the bootloader screen is a Hong Kong variant (see the software number) which is again a 16 gig model.
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The version he is showing in the screenshots is locked. So yes, it could be 32gb.
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Also, I have the international version. It is 32gb. I unlocked it myself.
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AFAIK European Models are called International models which is default Unlocked models unlike USA carrier specific models which are locked by network whether 16GB model Or 32GB Model. HongKong/Taiwan/Macau also sells 16GB/32GB Unlocked models but that variant is different than European Variant. HK Variant is called HTC One M8Y and I dunno what they calls European model.
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Not what I'm talking about. HTC sells an international variant for european countries and the rest of the world, which are 16gig models only. Only m8s for the American market are 32gigs. When I said unlocked, I meant the ones htc officially sells outside the US. (HTC__001, HTC__Y13 etc) Also, we're talking carrier unlocked, not bootloader unlocked. Also, the phone with the bootloader screen is a Hong Kong variant (see the software number) which is again a 16 gig model.
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I didn't know that HTC sells 16GB unlocked model for European countries & rest of the world. I thought HTC is selling both 16GB & 32GB by default Unlocked European models. But, Then my seller mentions that he is having both 16GB/32GB European model. Now question is if you're telling HTC sells only 16GB European model then how come he is having 32GB European Model? P.s It is no doubt that seller sells Genuine items. Luckily seller understands little bit of English so yesterday I talked to him and he said Both European variant & HK Variant are almost universal and I could flash European Variant ROM on HK variant. I dunno what's the difference b/w HK & European variant might be LTE band difference other than that everything would be the same.
maheshpatel said:
AFAIK European Models are called International models which is default Unlocked models unlike USA carrier specific models which are locked by network whether 16GB model Or 32GB Model. HongKong/Taiwan/Macau also sells 16GB/32GB Unlocked models but that variant is different than European Variant. HK Variant is called HTC One M8Y and I dunno what they calls European model.
I didn't know that HTC sells 16GB unlocked model for European countries & rest of the world. I thought HTC is selling both 16GB & 32GB by default Unlocked European models. But, Then my seller mentions that he is having both 16GB/32GB European model. Now question is if you're telling HTC sells only 16GB European model then how come he is having 32GB European Model? P.s It is no doubt that seller sells Genuine items. Luckily seller understands little bit of English so yesterday I talked to him and he said Both European variant & HK Variant are almost universal and I could flash European Variant ROM on HK variant. I dunno what's the difference b/w HK & European variant might be LTE band difference other than that everything would be the same.
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Yep, the only difference should be in LTE bands. Again, I'm 90% sure you can cross flash roms, and since he says you can, you probably can. Also, I've never seen an European 32gb model.. I'm pretty sure he would be selling the US unlocked model, (both international and us have the code m8n) but only difference will be in bands.. If the 32gb supports 1800mhz (ask him, I don't know) then get that!
PS, link to the seller please?
n1234d said:
Yep, the only difference should be in LTE bands. Again, I'm 90% sure you can cross flash roms, and since he says you can, you probably can. Also, I've never seen an European 32gb model.. I'm pretty sure he would be selling the US unlocked model, (both international and us have the code m8n) but only difference will be in bands.. If the 32gb supports 1800mhz (ask him, I don't know) then get that!
PS, link to the seller please?
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Yes, I will talk to him about 32GB UK model & 1800Mhz LTE band issues.
Here's the seller link: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-4615635472.37.CvSgdM&id=41040381216
Let me know what you think of the seller? There are many such sellers selling M8 around that price difference is minor 40-50 RMB & GIFTS
n1234d said:
Not what I'm talking about. HTC sells an international variant for european countries and the rest of the world, which are 16gig models only. Only m8s for the American market are 32gigs. When I said unlocked, I meant the ones htc officially sells outside the US. (HTC__001, HTC__Y13 etc) Also, we're talking carrier unlocked, not bootloader unlocked. Also, the phone with the bootloader screen is a Hong Kong variant (see the software number) which is again a 16 gig model.
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Dude. You are wrong. I have the international model. I don't live in the US.
Model ID
xunholyx said:
Dude. You are wrong. I have the international model. I don't live in the US. View attachment 3076060
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Can't see the first two images
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Model ID
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See your MID? The international unlocked has 0P6B1000
Also, OS version should be x.xx.401.x
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Model ID
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Also, according to the list made by Sneakyghost after lots of research here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54097345
You have a Rogers Canada phone. Verify your info man
Check the CID's and regional info spreadsheet
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n1234d said:
Can't see the first two images
See your MID? The international unlocked has 0P6B1000
Also, OS version should be x.xx.401.x
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Also, according to the list made by Sneakyghost after lots of research here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54097345
You have a Rogers Canada phone. Verify your info man
Check the CID's and regional info spreadsheet
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Telus Canada. Still not a US model. Not unlocked, as I stated earlier. 401.9 firmware.
But I do understand your point about he must have unlocked now. I was smoking when I replied last. lol
EDIT: And definitely international model. Go ahead and ask @Sneakyghost if you would like to.
Or you could read the headline and first paragraph in this article where it mentions the M8_UL model, which is what I own.
n1234d said:
Can't see the first two images
See your MID? The international unlocked has 0P6B1000
Also, OS version should be x.xx.401.x
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Also, according to the list made by Sneakyghost after lots of research here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54097345
You have a Rogers Canada phone. Verify your info man
Check the CID's and regional info spreadsheet
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Yes, You're right MID should be 0P6B100
Here's the M8 MID Info http://droider.eu/2014/09/20/htc-one-m8-models/
xunholyx said:
Telus Canada. Still not a US model. Not unlocked, as I stated earlier. 401.9 firmware.
But I do understand your point about he must have unlocked now. I was smoking when I replied last. lol
EDIT: And definitely international model. Go ahead and ask @Sneakyghost if you would like to.
Or you could read the headline and first paragraph in this article where it mentions the M8_UL model, which is what I own.
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MID 0P6B160 belongs to Telus/Rogers [CA] Here we are looking for MID 0P6B100 32GB variant
Now what do you have to say? Did HTC just released 32GB UK Unlocked version?
xunholyx said:
Telus Canada. Still not a US model. Not unlocked, as I stated earlier. 401.9 firmware.
But I do understand your point about he must have unlocked now. I was smoking when I replied last. lol
EDIT: And definitely international model. Go ahead and ask @Sneakyghost if you would like to.
Or you could read the headline and first paragraph in this article where it mentions the M8_UL model, which is what I own.
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Hey! Definitely lots of confusion.. Did you buy it from the telus store? Was it carrier locked? The os version number sure makes it look like the European one, but is it officially sold in Europe? Or anywhere outside North America? I'm speaking about the official EMEA model..
Also, my m8 is an M8_UL, but is still not the international one, it is an Indian model, with MID 0P6B650. So the code may be the same, but the underlying phone is definitely different, as mine supports TD-LTE too. As long as the phone @maheshpatel chooses has 1800mhz support, he'll be fine. Also, might be helpful to ask @Sneakyghost, he's a knowledgeable guy!
We never got the 32GB version in the UK, only the 16GB model. That's not to say it doesn't exist, mind
n1234d said:
Hey! Definitely lots of confusion.. Did you buy it from the telus store? Was it carrier locked? The os version number sure makes it look like the European one, but is it officially sold in Europe? Or anywhere outside North America? I'm speaking about the official EMEA model..
Also, my m8 is an M8_UL, but is still not the international one, it is an Indian model, with MID 0P6B650. So the code may be the same, but the underlying phone is definitely different, as mine supports TD-LTE too. As long as the phone @maheshpatel chooses has 1800mhz support, he'll be fine. Also, might be helpful to ask @Sneakyghost, he's a knowledgeable guy!
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Yes, European variant supports 4G - LTE:800/900/1800/2600 MHz
EddyOS said:
We never got the 32GB version in the UK, only the 16GB model. That's not to say it doesn't exist, mind
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Now I would definitely ask HTC UK customer support. You're based in UK so I am sure you know better than the others.
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I plan to buy the T-Mobile Galaxy S4. Worried that I may not be happy with T-Mobile's coverage is it possible to use it on AT&T's network? If so will it be able to pick up all bands?
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So, does the S4 follow the S3? Will a T-Mobile S4 work on all other carriers in the US and Canada, but, just not have LTE speeds (Only HSPA+)?
Thanks!
According to [1] the t-mobile version of the S4 has the following LTE bands: 1/2/4/5/7/17, which correspond to 2100 1900 1700 850 2600 700MHz.
- Bands 1 and 4 are clear, as those are the main t-mobile LTE bands.
- Metro PCS uses band 2, so given the pending merger to t-mobile, this makes sense as well.
- Band 17 is used by AT&T, which would hopefully mean a T-Mobile Galaxy S4 can be fully used on AT&T including LTE.
- Band 7, is commonly used around the world, including Canada, some countries in South America and Asia and many countries in Europe. So this should allow for using the device in many countries abroad e.g. through roaming, or buying a pre-paid sim when overseas on business or holidays.
But why did they include Band 5? According to wikipedia [2] that band is only used by very few carriers around the world. Would it have not made more sense to include e.g. Band 3 (1800MHz), which is commonly used for LTE in Europe and Asia, including most of the European T-Mobile networks. That would have allowed for much broader roaming.
Furthermore, can someone confirm that the information on the webpage is correct and particularly that T-mobiles S4 really has band 7 (2600MHz) included?
[1] www samsung com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-M919ZWATMB-specs
[2] en wikipedia org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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knowthenazz said:
So, does the S4 follow the S3? Will a T-Mobile S4 work on all other carriers in the US and Canada, but, just not have LTE speeds (Only HSPA+)?
Thanks!
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Theoretically, yes, it should work on AT&T fine as the device does support all of AT&T's bands, including their LTE bands. Of course it needs to be SIM unlocked in order for you to be able to put an AT&T SIM in it though.
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According to [1] the t-mobile version of the S4 has the following LTE bands: 1/2/4/5/7/17, which correspond to 2100 1900 1700 850 2600 700MHz.
- Bands 1 and 4 are clear, as those are the main t-mobile LTE bands.
- Metro PCS uses band 2, so given the pending merger to t-mobile, this makes sense as well.
- Band 17 is used by AT&T, which would hopefully mean a T-Mobile Galaxy S4 can be fully used on AT&T including LTE.
- Band 7, is commonly used around the world, including Canada, some countries in South America and Asia and many countries in Europe. So this should allow for using the device in many countries abroad e.g. through roaming, or buying a pre-paid sim when overseas on business or holidays.
But why did they include Band 5? According to wikipedia [2] that band is only used by very few carriers around the world. Would it have not made more sense to include e.g. Band 3 (1800MHz), which is commonly used for LTE in Europe and Asia, including most of the European T-Mobile networks. That would have allowed for much broader roaming.
Furthermore, can someone confirm that the information on the webpage is correct and particularly that T-mobiles S4 really has band 7 (2600MHz) included?
[1] www samsung com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-M919ZWATMB-specs
[2] en wikipedia org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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2600 mhz band and is for T-Mobile in European Union
To your question why. .....if they did include this to American version S4 then there will not be difference to international S4 LTE version. ....There is two different devices 9500&9505...it's a market democracy that separate this market for known reason. ....otherwise ....There is going to be way some time on road to flash different modem to give you other bands. ....flashing modem will not make hardware frequency to make changed. ...
Just follow XDA there is a lot of smart people out there that will make them
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2600 mhz band and is for T-Mobile in European Union
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T-mobile mostly uses the 1800Mhz band in Europe (UK, Germany, Croatia, Hungary, Netherlands and Czech Republic) although it does have some licenses for the 2600MHz band as well. 2600MHz is heavily used by other carriers in Europe though, which is why I was interested to get a confirmation that the t-mobile US version of the Galaxy S4 really does have that band included, as I will likely want to use it in Europe too.
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T-mobile mostly uses the 1800Mhz band in Europe (UK, Germany, Croatia, Hungary, Netherlands and Czech Republic) although it does have some licenses for the 2600MHz band as well. 2600MHz is heavily used by other carriers in Europe though, which is why I was interested to get a confirmation that the t-mobile US version of the Galaxy S4 really does have that band included, as I will likely want to use it in Europe too.
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If you go to US tmobile website and go to specification you will see exactly what you looking. ...just remember there is also important to look for given band on frequency you will operate in Europe. ..my note II Was running fine on A1 Austria Tmobile Orange and tele ring company. ...When I was in Europe. ...in Australia I was not capable running LTE be cause I do have 2600 MHZ frequency just no band for Australia. ....
There it pulled T-Mobile
Bands and frequency
HSPA+ Bands: I (UMTS 2100), II (1900), IV (1700/2100/AWS), V (850)LTE Bands: Band 1 (2100), 2 (1900), 4 (1700/2100), 5(850), 7 (2600) & 17GSM Bands: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
So if you looking for carrier that operating on 1800 it will support only GSM .......GPRS data
On other frequency you should pick high speeds data
This are A&TT Baseband and frequency from Samsung site
Frequencies and Data Type: LTE: Bands 1/4/7/17; HSPA+/UMTS: 850/1900/2100MHz; GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz*
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A&TT site
Wireless Technology
4G-LTE*Band 4 and 174G*HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul3G - UMTS*850/1900/2100MHzGSM/GPRS/EDGE*850/900/1800/1900MHz
samprocat said:
If you go to US tmobile website and go to specification you will see exactly what you looking. ...
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Ah, looks like they have updated their page to include more details now. When I looked a couple of hours ago it still only said "LTE compatible" with no indication of the exact frequency and bands it supports.
As the specs on t-mobile.com and samsung's us page now match in claiming it does have support for band 7, I'll assume it actually does. But given that the AT&T page still claims the S4 has FM radio and the supported LTE frequencies of the AT&T spec page don't match the Samsungs's spec page, it seems even the "official" specs can't always be trusted.
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Here is what the Canadian versions use:
GSM Bands:850/900/1800/1900
HSPA+/HSPA Bands:850/1900/2100
LTE Bands:2100/2600
So the T-mobile version should work no problem in Canada if we end up with a bootloader locked version up here.
Well, it looks like the Tmobile version of the S4 may be the one to get for a lot of us on ATT and in Canada since it has the right bands and the bootloader isn't locked. It just needs to be sim unlocked.
i am very interested in this option. I guess what we need is some confirmation from folks in the field/first hand experience.
I guess we need to wait for someone to sim unlock and test the LTE?
mircury said:
Well, it looks like the Tmobile version of the S4 may be the one to get for a lot of us on ATT and in Canada since it has the right bands and the bootloader isn't locked. It just needs to be sim unlocked.
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Anyone tried the menu unlock for the sim like the Note 2 had?
tietherope said:
Here is what the Canadian versions use:
GSM Bands:850/900/1800/1900
HSPA+/HSPA Bands:850/1900/2100
LTE Bands:2100/2600
So the T-mobile version should work no problem in Canada if we end up with a bootloader locked version up here.
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Hi,
Is this for all Canadian versions (The Big 3 and Wind/Mobilicty)?
Thanks!
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mircury said:
Well, it looks like the Tmobile version of the S4 may be the one to get for a lot of us on ATT and in Canada since it has the right bands and the bootloader isn't locked. It just needs to be sim unlocked.
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Is the Canadian version confirmed to be SIM locked (the same as AT&T)?
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Is the sim on the T=mobile version a micro? AT&T uses full size sims. Of course, getting a micro-sim from AT&T or using a sim cutter should work, but it is still a consideration. It also needs to be determined if the radio (software baseband) of the T-Mobile S4 takes advantage of the Hardware frequencies the phone supports. In other words, will it be optimized for AT&T networks.
The next important question is - how do you SIM UNLOCK the T-mobile S4?
If T-Mobile doesn't give you the unlock code, then this is moot.
knowthenazz said:
Hi,
Is this for all Canadian versions (The Big 3 and Wind/Mobilicty)?
Thanks!
The big 3 yes. Wind/Mobilicity, no clue but I'll check when I wake up and get to work in about 7 hours.
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Is the Canadian version confirmed to be SIM locked (the same as AT&T)?
Thanks!
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SIM locked it would be as always. Bootloader locked no one knows yet. SIM unlock on previous Galaxy devices has been done for free, or for a minimal cost.
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lanwarrior said:
The next important question is - how do you SIM UNLOCK the T-mobile S4?
If T-Mobile doesn't give you the unlock code, then this is moot.
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Order it from Negri Electronics and it comes unlocked, or order an unlock code online somewhere.
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tietherope said:
Order it from Negri Electronics and it comes unlocked, or order an unlock code online somewhere.
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I want to buy it from a US Carrier be use it comes with US Warranty. I bought Intl Note before and went dead on me...no warranty of course. I know this is rare, but having a dead $600 phone once is enough for me
Anyways, if Tmo won't provide the SIM unlock code (AT&T does), then there's no point buying it from Tmo because the phone is always locked to their network.
I would have bought the phone from AT&T, but the bootloader is locked.
lanwarrior said:
I want to buy it from a US Carrier be use it comes with US Warranty. I bought Intl Note before and went dead on me...no warranty of course. I know this is rare, but having a dead $600 phone once is enough for me
Anyways, if Tmo won't provide the SIM unlock code (AT&T does), then there's no point buying it from Tmo because the phone is always locked to their network.
I would have bought the phone from AT&T, but the bootloader is locked.
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Ouch, that's understandable for sure. I've been lucky that my international Galaxy S I-III are all still running well.
Did you buy it from an online store that claims to have a warranty or eBay or similar?
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I bought the Note 1 from Amazon - the seller was selling it through Amazon Prime. When I searched for the International Note, none that I found (eBay, Amazon, etc.) offer a 1-year warranty with Samsung USA.
Interestingly, I used to buy the International version of Nokia phones (remember those good ol day?) and Nokia USA WILL honor the warranty (I have to ship it to Melbourne, FL).
I wish Samsung USA will do the same or have a local Samsung store, like Sony Store so I can buy the phone full price from them and have full warranty. Heck, even Amazon and NewEgg are selling the Xperia ZL unlocked with US warranty! Right now my options are limited (AT&T have locked bootloader, T-Mobile SIM locked, I don't want CDMA phones).
does anybody know where i can buy it from outside US ?
when calling ATT, they keep asking for ssn so non-us citizen can buy it
(living in Canada)
thanks !
mrdindon said:
does anybody know where i can buy it from outside US ?
when calling ATT, they keep asking for ssn so non-us citizen can buy it
(living in Canada)
thanks !
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My understanding is that the AT&T Note 8 is only available in the US. So the short answer to your question is -- nowhere.
Maybe find one on ebay?
kenmitch said:
Maybe find one on ebay?
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I wish... but couldn't find any on the web..
There was 1 on ebay US when I posted. BIN $550 but not sure if they shkp to CA tho.
Mine was delivered yesterday. I added 2 lines to my share plan. Got 1 S4 Active and a Note 8 LTE for $362 shipped. The Active I'm selling and terminating the line. Needed to buy Active for $99 to get the Note 8 for $199. If I get the $100 billing credit it showed I got.a smoken deal.
The AT&T promotion might make more available on eBay possibly.
There is an sgh-i467M model for Canada. Samsung just hasn't released the details about it yet. Pretty sure it's coming here and it will be different than the U.S. one. Maybe give it one more week. Starting to see leaks about July 11.
Streakr said:
There is an sgh-i467M model for Canada. Samsung just hasn't released the details about it yet. Pretty sure it's coming here and it will be different than the U.S. one. Maybe give it one more week. Starting to see leaks about July 11.
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I dont think it will be so different... I guess the "M" in the sgh-i467M is for marketing
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I dont think it will be so different... I guess the "M" in the sgh-i467M is for marketing
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You could be right but I don't remember seeing a difference with the Note II. There's always the advantage of the proper frequencies and warranty coverage though.
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You could be right but I don't remember seeing a difference with the Note II. There's always the advantage of the proper frequencies and warranty coverage though.
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SGH-I467 uses north-american lte frequencies so its the same for Canada and US
Finally found one on ebay, should arrive in a few days
I just dont get it why nobody sells them yet on ebay !!
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I dont think it will be so different... I guess the "M" in the sgh-i467M is for marketing
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SGH-I467 uses north-american lte frequencies so its the same for Canada and US
Finally found one on ebay, should arrive in a few days
I just dont get it why nobody sells them yet on ebay !!
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Well for one thing the LTE Bands most used in Canada is the AWS 1700/2100 and then the 2600 Band. Most people in Canada don't want the AT&T version. They want the full version with phone function. The HK or Singapore version has the 2600 LTE Band but you have to watch out for the HSPA Bands because some of those models are missing the 1900 3G Band. Rogers/Fido uses the 2600 Band though it's not as large an area as the AWS Band. The HK version should work but I don't know of anyone here with one to test.
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Well for one thing the LTE Bands most used in Canada is the AWS 1700/2100 and then the 2600 Band. Most people in Canada don't want the AT&T version. They want the full version with phone function. The HK or Singapore version has the 2600 LTE Band but you have to watch out for the HSPA Bands because some of those models are missing the 1900 3G Band. Rogers/Fido uses the 2600 Band though it's not as large an area as the AWS Band. The HK version should work but I don't know of anyone here with one to test.
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I tought the sgh-i467 wasn't the hk version but the att version ... don't att and rogers uses the exact same frequency range ?
also, for the phone feature, it's not in the sgh-i467 ? do you mean only the apk was removed or also the microphone ?
thanks !
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I tought the sgh-i467 wasn't the hk version but the att version ... don't att and rogers uses the exact same frequency range ?
also, for the phone feature, it's not in the sgh-i467 ? do you mean only the apk was removed or also the microphone ?
thanks !
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I'm talking about the device as it relates to it's N5120 LTE version number not specifically the source code numbers sgh-i467, sgh-i467M. The AT&T version removed the phone earpiece hardware from their model. If you look at the HK model you will see the earpiece speaker above the Samsung logo. I don't know if the internals have been changed but the source code doesn't allow for phone function. People are trying to get the phone function to work through Bluetooth or wired headphones but I haven't heard of anyone doing it yet.
In Canada the 2 LTE Bands are AWS 1700/2100 and the 2600.
I think AT&T also use the AWS and the other one is 800 or something like that. Ok so it's the 700 not 800.
I am planning on buying an M8 while I am on vacation in China. After checking though some online shops, I discovered that they sell M8t, M8w, M8sw and a M8st. What are the differences between these models and will they impact my expierience if I bring my phone back to Europe.
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I am planning on buying an M8 while I am on vacation in China. After checking though some online shops, I discovered that they sell M8t, M8w, M8sw and a M8st. What are the differences between these models and will they impact my expierience if I bring my phone back to Europe.
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I am sure it will affect usability as China uses TD-SCDMA.
(TD-SCDMA is an air interface found in UMTS mobile telecommunications networks in China as an alternative to W-CDMA).
Which means chinese device will work only in China and/or in TD-SCDMA network.
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I am planning on buying an M8 while I am on vacation in China. After checking though some online shops, I discovered that they sell M8t, M8w, M8sw and a M8st. What are the differences between these models and will they impact my expierience if I bring my phone back to Europe.
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I just bought the HTC One M8t today in China and i will be using it in Denmark when i get back home. I just looked at the antenna where it should work on the danish LTE 1800 and 2600. At least they assured me in the shop (Sunning).
@#1 - So i hope i will work, how sure are you that it wont work in Europe? Shouldnt it just be the LTE that is covered?
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I just bought the HTC One M8t today in China and i will be using it in Denmark when i get back home. I just looked at the antenna where it should work on the danish LTE 1800 and 2600. At least they assured me in the shop (Sunning).
@#1 - So i hope i will work, how sure are you that it wont work in Europe? Shouldnt it just be the LTE that is covered?
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I don't think the shop was correct. The Chinese TD-SCDMA network uses 2,300–2,400 MHz, while the European W-CDMA countries using 2100 MHz...
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I don't think the shop was correct. The Chinese TD-SCDMA network uses 2,300–2,400 MHz, while the European W-CDMA countries using 2100 MHz...
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I found it here, this is the exact version i bought, and the salesman insured me this was the version, he showed me on the website and everything.
product. suning. com/108317003.html
Just remove the spaces, i cant post links because im a new member
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I found it here, this is the exact version i bought, and the salesman insured me this was the version, he showed me on the website and everything.
product. suning. com/108317003.html
Just remove the spaces, i cant post links because im a new member
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if you read better on that site you could find this info : Mobile phone standard: Mobile 4G (TD-LTE)
that TD makes it China specific.
so if you need a "paperweight" or just media player get it...
Just as the title says.. is it possible? Will it work with the network carriers over here?
IDC about taxes and stuff I just want to know about compatibility with the network carriers.
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where in Asia?
each carrier usually uses different frequencies as allowed by local laws.
in the spec page of the OnePlus3 you can see the frequencies supported by the US version.
if you specify where you are from we can help localize the carrier support for your region.
Helpful service
Google search willmyphonework
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I used this site to make sure my op3 was compatible with the carriers in my country. Just select your phone and model (I believe A3000 is the american model) and the country and it will give you a list of compatible carriers and the bands each carrier uses.
Mostly 4G won't work. Band 3 (1800MHz) is common in Asia. Try Aliexpress. They have A3000 model for the same price (Free shipping), which has Band 3 network. I'm in Sri Lanka. I was about to buy OP3 phone from USA but skipped it because I found out the network incompatibility.
eladrichi said:
where in Asia?
each carrier usually uses different frequencies as allowed by local laws.
in the spec page of the OnePlus3 you can see the frequencies supported by the US version.
if you specify where you are from we can help localize the carrier support for your region.
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JoshAulder said:
Google search willmyphonework
Edit: Since Im a new member I cannot post the direct link
I used this site to make sure my op3 was compatible with the carriers in my country. Just select your phone and model (I believe A3000 is the american model) and the country and it will give you a list of compatible carriers and the bands each carrier uses.
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Mostly 4G won't work. Band 3 (1800MHz) is common in Asia. Try Aliexpress. They have A3000 model for the same price (Free shipping), which has Band 3 network. I'm in Sri Lanka. I was about to buy OP3 phone from USA but skipped it because I found out the network incompatibility.
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I'm from Israel.
I just checked on willmyphonework and you guys were right, it's compatible only with 2G and 3G bands, and about 0% compatibility with 4G bands.
Ofc it's a deal breaker for me so I won't buy it in my trip to the US soon.
Do you know if maybe I can find the EU model for sale in the US?
If not, do you have any recommendations on where to buy it? Here in Israel it's about 1000 INS (about 250$) MORE than the US price...
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I'm from Israel.
I just checked on willmyphonework and you guys were right, it's compatible only with 2G and 3G bands, and about 0% compatibility with 4G bands.
Ofc it's a deal breaker for me so I won't buy it in my trip to the US soon.
Do you know if maybe I can find the EU model for sale in the US?
If not, do you have any recommendations on where to buy it? Here in Israel it's about 1000 INS (about 250$) MORE than the US price...
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I bought mine directly from the manufacturer. There was no option at the time to select the model but they seemed to select the model for me anyway based on the ship to address, so I got the European model. I would check the different models available on that site and find the one that works in Israel
Aliexpress is a good site. Just check seller's and shop's rating. There are plenty of OP3 for sale in Aliexpress for the original price. A3000 model would support your 4G connection. (Better check yourself )
Hi there,
Looking at Google Pixels page one can see that there is two versions of the product: NA and RoW.
Question is: is there any chance of buying a RoW version in US? Has anyone ever managed to buy the past Nexus International Versions in US before?
Thanks all and regards
Took me a few seconds to figure out what RoW means. I'd like to know this too.
In regards to the N6p I tried to buy an Intl version from the US but it wasn't available.
Had to be bought from Intl market like EU or the Middle East..
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mazroui said:
In regards to the N6p I tried to buy an Intl version from the US but it wasn't available.
Had to be bought from Intl market like EU or the Middle East..
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Is there any difference in the UAE? Both versions support LTE Band 3 and UMTS Band 1. Should work fine in the UAE.
I'm using US 6P which also supports LTE B3 and have not had any issues at all.
Abra_Cadabra said:
Is there any difference in the UAE? Both versions support LTE Band 3 and UMTS Band 1. Should work fine in the UAE.
I'm using US 6P which also supports LTE B3 and have not had any issues at all.
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To my understanding of supported LTE, UMTS, and GSM frequencies both Pixel Variants will work in UAE but Carrier Aggregation will probably not work. Not sure if the operators in the UAE support CA (yet) but if/ when they do this will probably something that wouldn't work on the NA variant. The only combination supported by the device for UAE bands is B7+B7, which may or may not work.
Whether this is a deal breaker or not is up to you to decide.
Won't work. There are two different version. One that supports international LTE bands and one that supports the bands in the USA. Just like the Nexus 6, 5x and 6P. If you buy the Pixel in the USA you'd only be able to use 3g speeds in Europe, band 7 (1800mhz) being the only exception.
In short, should you buy the pixel phone in the USA you won't have 4G in Europe and other countries that use the same bands.
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In regards to the N6p I tried to buy an Intl version from the US but it wasn't available.
Had to be bought from Intl market like EU or the Middle East..
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Same with me. Worse than that, Google does not sell then in my country. So, unfortunately, I may have to buy outside US as well again.
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pauleandro said:
Same with me. Worse than that, Google does not sell then in my country. So, unfortunately, I may have to buy outside US as well again.
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Now that the pixel is out i can't seem to find anything online (N6p H1512 64/128gb) that comes with a warranty, if you do come across one that includes warranty please dm me.
I found out the warranty over here is handled by the retailers and is not international (covered by Google/Huawei).
mazroui said:
Now that the pixel is out i can't seem to find anything online (N6p H1512 64/128gb) that comes with a warranty, if you do come across one that includes warranty please dm me.
I found out the warranty over here is handled by the retailers and is not international (covered by Google/Huawei).
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Of course, no problem. I'll let you know if I find anything.
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I am also looking at this and cannot understand the CA limitations on the US device. Unless I am mistaken the Snapdragon X12 modem supports all combinations of supported frequencies. Yet the phones have different combinations for some reason. I do not know if Google is limiting this via software. Any thoughts?
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Won't work. There are two different version. One that supports international LTE bands and one that supports the bands in the USA. Just like the Nexus 6, 5x and 6P. If you buy the Pixel in the USA you'd only be able to use 3g speeds in Europe, band 7 (1800mhz) being the only exception.
In short, should you buy the pixel phone in the USA you won't have 4G in Europe and other countries that use the same bands.
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How comes? Both NA & RoW Pixel's tech specs show bands 3 and 20 (beside the band 7 & others) which are the most common bands used in Europe for LTE, so I can't see why the NA model won't have 4G in Europe... Can you please explain?
Lots of overlap
There appears to be quite significant overlap, with the NA version supporting all or almost all LTE bands in most European countries and in many non-European countries as well (including all LTE bands in UAE):
NA version: frequencycheck.com/compatibility/GPQkJ/google-pixel-xl-phone-nexus-m1-td-lte-na-128gb-htc-marlin/countries
RoW version: frequencycheck.com/compatibility/vWPw8/google-pixel-xl-phone-nexus-m1-global-td-lte-128gb-htc-marlin/countries
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Hmm... just noticed that a few European countries that FrequencyCheck lists the NA version as having only partial LTE coverage for are because the site considers the NA version not to support band 8. But, according to Google's own spec page (madeby.google.com/phone/specs/ > Telephony), both the NA and RoW versions support B8. No idea if FrequencyCheck is a generally reliable source of info, as I just discovered the site a few minutes ago. I hope Google's listing for their own phone is correct, but the fact that B8 isn't included anywhere in the LTE 2xCA and 3xCA breakdowns for the NA version as it is for the RoW version makes me wonder...
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Won't work. There are two different version. One that supports international LTE bands and one that supports the bands in the USA. Just like the Nexus 6, 5x and 6P. If you buy the Pixel in the USA you'd only be able to use 3g speeds in Europe, band 7 (1800mhz) being the only exception.
In short, should you buy the pixel phone in the USA you won't have 4G in Europe and other countries that use the same bands.
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sirda said:
How comes? Both NA & RoW Pixel's tech specs show bands 3 and 20 (beside the band 7 & others) which are the most common bands used in Europe for LTE, so I can't see why the NA model won't have 4G in Europe... Can you please explain?
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Yes, the main European LTE bands are 3, 7 and 20, so it doesn't matter which version you have as both support all these bands. scandalousk is wrong.
Partially, it'll support 4G. But it won't support LTE-Advanced (4g+)
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Partially, it'll support 4G. But it won't support LTE-Advanced (4g+)
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It'll support LTE, but won't support LTE Carrier Aggregation. LTE-Advanced is more than just Carrier Aggregation.