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New ZenFone 2 models on the Horizon!

Hey guys I just got down watching a couple of videos from Mobilegeeks on YouTube and I found out that they covered the Snapdragon versions of the ZenFone 2. The New ZenFones seem to be a minor upgrade from the Intel based version. I will sent you guys a link to all the models.
But I have a question to all ZenFone 2 users that have the Intel version: When the Snapdragon versions come out will you be switching from the Intel version or will you stay with the Intel version
Snapdragon version= Development and custom Roms are most likely
Intel version= still development, but very little Roms.
Let me know what you guys think of this
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Also I'm sorry Moderators I put this in the question and answer thread. I forgot I wasn't in the general thread. Whoops
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It's the Zenfone Selfie. It's got a 13MP front and Rear facing camera, and the processor is a Snapdragon 615. AFAICT, that's the only difference. And they haven't said anything about price or availability.
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Personally, I'm sticking with the Intel one because our Intel chip scores higher than the SD 615 in real world performance.

Alcatel iDOL 3 has Snapdrogan 615 and price $249 , which also comes with ? 64 bit Android ?(pre orders got at $199 which like me! much thinner than Asus zenfone 2 , 64 gb
but unfortunately ROM ,MODS are limited
I am assuming because of NEW CPU 615 ,

Yeah I am sticking with the Intel version because it overpowers the Sd 615 and 801 in performance. I will be happy if we at least get a unlocked boot loader and Official Root instead of Preroot. I heard there are more models of the ZenFone 2. One with a 6 inch screen, screens 5inch screen and there called Ze500KL and ZE600KL.
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ZE550KL/SD615/3GB vs ZE550ML?

I am a casual gamer and battery life is pretty important for me. I was waiting for 5.1 update for ZF2 before buying ZE550ML. However I noticed that the ZE550KL (Laser) with Snapdragon 615 and 3GB RAM is almost the same price. Would this be a better buy for me? Anyone having used both the chipsets can give their experience.

Gustapo said:
I am a casual gamer and battery life is pretty important for me. I was waiting for 5.1 update for ZF2 before buying ZE550ML. However I noticed that the ZE550KL (Laser) with Snapdragon 615 and 3GB RAM is almost the same price. Would this be a better buy for me? Anyone having used both the chipsets can give their experience.
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The idol 3 runs that processor while have 2gb of ram and it has stutters and lag. And the idol 3 is basically stock android and not heavily skinned like the 550.
but since its using a snapdragon instead of the Intel like the other models. I don't know if there will be any root or custom roms for the laser model if that is something you can wait for then go for the cheapest one you can get.

903tex said:
The idol 3 runs that processor while have 2gb of ram and it has stutters and lag. And the idol 3 is basically stock android and not heavily skinned like the 550.
but since its using a snapdragon instead of the Intel like the other models. I don't know if there will be any root or custom roms for the laser model if that is something you can wait for then go for the cheapest one you can get.
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Better recheck those specs for the ZE550KL as it has only 2GB of RAM not 3GB

Next Phone?

What phone do you suggest for the future? I'm disappointed with Zenfone 2 ZE551ML 4GB, bad materials, bad support, ridiculous battery life and bad space management (phone is too big).
My priority are battery (not necessary a battery phone, but at least 6-7 hours of display), good camera (I want support for real slow motion, not the ZF2 one ) , good design (I would prefer a 5-5.2") and good software support.
My budget is 400€ and I need phones that I can found on Amazon (so don't suggest me phones like OP3 that are on Amazon at 100€ more).
Thanks

I was thinking about ZUK Z2 & Z2 Pro as my next phone after ZF2. Generally because it's smaller than 5.5" and probably should have similar performance.
This choice is made based on specifications from the web. I still need to check some reviews for this phone.
Maybe someone can say anything about this phone?

Or Galaxy S8 Edge + Gear Vr,, or nothing

maciek90 said:
I was thinking about ZUK Z2 & Z2 Pro as my next phone after ZF2. Generally because it's smaller than 5.5" and probably should have similar performance.
This choice is made based on specifications from the web. I still need to check some reviews for this phone.
Maybe someone can say anything about this phone?
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The problem is that these phones like Zuk, Xiaomi and these "not top" brands, are not selling officially in Italy and they don't support 800Mhz (band 20) for 4G LTE, used a lot here, expecially where I live and with my carrier..so I need a "more european" brand, to have full 4G support.

I am thinking of the 5.5 inch Zenfone 3. I have been very happy with my ze551ml.
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check elephone p9000 around 250$

dredremon said:
check elephone p9000 around 250$
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P9000 is not really better than ZF2, at least the 4 Gb version (unless you're badly looking for a fingerprint unlockable phone).
I used a P8000 before and although it's a nice phone, Mediatek processors are less powerful than other manufacturers' equivalent cpu's. If you take Antutu Benchmark as a reference (yes, we all know it can be faked, but it serves its purpose as a reference, and a way to compare two phones) P9000 scores between 45k and 47k, while my ZF2, which is the 1.8 Ghz version, scores between 55k and 57k. P9000 wouldn't be such a step forward, unless your ZF2 is broken beyond repair.
I'd stick to ZF2 until something significantly more powerful and affordable comes around. I've already seen some 6 Gb RAM phones, also with 128 Gb storage, but definitely not in the same price range as the ZF2.

jman0 said:
P9000 is not really better than ZF2, at least the 4 Gb version (unless you're badly looking for a fingerprint unlockable phone).
I used a P8000 before and although it's a nice phone, Mediatek processors are less powerful than other manufacturers' equivalent cpu's. If you take Antutu Benchmark as a reference (yes, we all know it can be faked, but it serves its purpose as a reference, and a way to compare two phones) P9000 scores between 45k and 47k, while my ZF2, which is the 1.8 Ghz version, scores between 55k and 57k. P9000 wouldn't be such a step forward, unless your ZF2 is broken beyond repair.
I'd stick to ZF2 until something significantly more powerful and affordable comes around. I've already seen some 6 Gb RAM phones, also with 128 Gb storage, but definitely not in the same price range as the ZF2.
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if you want upgrade 400$ i suggest xiaomo mi5s + or one plus 3

My current "short list" of devices:
OnePlus 3
ZTE Axon 7
Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe
LeEco Le Max 2
LeEco Le Pro 3
Xiaomi Redmi Note 3
Sony XA Ultra
Nexus 6
Motorola Moto X Pure

I sincerely felt ZF2 not really worth the price , the hardwares are high spec but softwares are ****.

I got mine in June last year and as still pleased with it. Worth the price to me.
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I'll not purchase ASUS anymore period.
I replace it with an Galaxy S7 duos (flat screen version), cost near twice but it's the best android phone available despite Pixel XL hype, the S7 is the fastest water proof dual sim better display, much smaller than the asus and pixel XL, features Knox and multitasking and Samsung voice recognition its available in Spanish and while not as funny as the assistant does very well when I'm driving, also read messages and emails features not available in Spanish from Google asistant o now. Ahh the S7 also includes HR sensor and wireless charging and cost 300 less than a pixel XL.

I can't find one with better specs than the Zenfone 2 and with the ability to use two sim cards and an sd card at the same time .

karlzberg said:
I can't find one with better specs than the Zenfone 2 and with the ability to use two sim cards and an sd card at the same time .
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Yea there are, the Moto G4 has a dual sim version I don't know if can use the sd slot the same time but includes 64 internal storage android 7 and 0 bloat.
I don't use the sd slot often with 32gb its far enough to me even I have 3 games and 10gb+ in mp3, and when I need video for long trips I just plug an mini otg-usb pendrive.
But there is an mod for the S7 that allows simultaneously use the SD and two sim but implies devastating one sim that can't be uses on other phone anymore.

AcostaJA said:
Yea there are, the Moto G4 has a dual sim version I don't know if can use the sd slot the same time but includes 64 internal storage android 7 and 0 bloat.
I don't use the sd slot often with 32gb its far enough to me even I have 3 games and 10gb+ in mp3, and when I need video for long trips I just plug an mini otg-usb pendrive.
But there is an mod for the S7 that allows simultaneously use the SD and two sim but implies devastating one sim that can't be uses on other phone anymore.
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Moto G4 has only 2gb ram it does has a dedicated sd card slot though :good: but spec wise it's not as good as the zenfone 2 imo.

karlzberg said:
Moto G4 has only 2gb ram it does has a dedicated sd card slot though :good: but spec wise it's not as good as the zenfone 2 imo.
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FYI Moto G4 has versions from 2GB/32gb 5HD" to 4GB/64GB" 5.5HD +fingerprint reader from 150$ (G4play) to 300$ (G4+), in some markets is offered with Dual-Sim feature, and spec-off its an high quality build phone, absolutely reliable with the fastest updated among non-nexus phones, even I considered it at last moment instead the S7.

AcostaJA said:
FYI Moto G4 has versions from 2GB/32gb 5HD" to 4GB/64GB" 5.5HD +fingerprint reader from 150$ (G4play) to 300$ (G4+), in some markets is offered with Dual-Sim feature, and spec-off its an high quality build phone, absolutely reliable with the fastest updated among non-nexus phones, even I considered it at last moment instead the S7.
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:good:
Moto G4 plus Google says 4GB only on sale via Amazon in the UK checking Amazon I'm finding 3GB at £245 so when the 4GB version is out I'm thinking it will probably be north of £300.
One to keep an eye on though:good:

Got the missus a vernee thor for 80GBP , comes with MM out the box and just put AOSP 7.1 on it for her from M.A.D team, here on XDA .
Nippy device 3GB ram and...... MTK of all chipsets

http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_note_8-8231.php

go for xiaomi mi5 or zenfone 3 deluxe. i am using xiaomi mi5. believe me its best.

should i get Note 2 or if Phoenix 2?

So, i recently got myself an at&t let Phoenix 2, it's a ok phone but it's adreno 304 really lags in many games. A friend is selling a note 2, for about 50$ is in pristine condition basically new.
The question now is, should i get the note 2? It's supposed to have a mali 400mp4 or something like that and it's a samsung device which are normally higher quality than lg.
What do you guys think? Is it worth getting for games?

KerrangR said:
So, i recently got myself an at&t let Phoenix 2, it's a ok phone but it's adreno 304 really lags in many games. A friend is selling a note 2, for about 50$ is in pristine condition basically new.
The question now is, should i get the note 2? It's supposed to have a mali 400mp4 or something like that and it's a samsung device which are normally higher quality than lg.
What do you guys think? Is it worth getting for games?
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Buy a redmi note 4 cost will be~ $150 but it's worth it every penny this phone should have costed $250 if it were motorola.. The adreno 506 is a lot better than the crap py outdated old mali 400MP

The problem is i got no money for a new phone, id ve selling my phoenix 2 should i decide to get a new Phone.
But just out of Curiosity, which one of the variations from that redmi nite 4 should i get? Theres the 64gb and 4x high versions which both feature 10 cores with mtk helio x20, dual channel memory and malis t880mp4 which seem to clock higher than the adrenos on the note 4's msm8953 and 4x's which also feature qualcomms snapdragons 625 octacores and both sigle channel ans higher frequency ram

Also what are your thoughts of the alcatel a30 plus?

Zenfone 5 vs 5z

Are there anyone who own or had used both 5 and 5z? I'm not sure how much difference between sd636 and 845. I know 845 is "superior", but how far? Camera, battery, performance, are they that noticable? They differ for about $150 at my place, so I'm wondering if it's worth the price (and the wait, since 5z isn't out yet here)
can you guys help me decide?

I will really appreciate some comments here as well.

They are basically the same phone but only difference is the processor.

I've had the 5 but not the 5z yet so I can't compare them directly. However I did compare performance between the Zenfone 5 and 2 845 phones (Oneplus 6 and Mi Mix 2s) while I had them. There is no question that the 845 phones are faster. The biggest difference I noticed is with opening apps. The 845 phones were pretty much instant but the Zenfone 5 took a little longer. It wasn't horrible but it was noticeable if you have or have used a phone with an 845 (or 835). This difference is why I sold the Zenfone 5 and am waiting for the 5z to be available in the U.S.

olive23 said:
They are basically the same phone but only difference is the processor.
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Yes, hence this question about the difference between processors
gtchs said:
I've had the 5 but not the 5z yet so I can't compare them directly. However I did compare performance between the Zenfone 5 and 2 845 phones (Oneplus 6 and Mi Mix 2s) while I had them. There is no question that the 845 phones are faster. The biggest difference I noticed is with opening apps. The 845 phones were pretty much instant but the Zenfone 5 took a little longer. It wasn't horrible but it was noticeable if you have or have used a phone with an 845 (or 835). This difference is why I sold the Zenfone 5 and am waiting for the 5z to be available in the U.S.
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So the performance is noticeable at least. Thanks for that. I wish we can compare the camera and battery between Zen5 (636) and OP6, but since even Zen5z is quite different from OP6 with a same processor, I guess we can't do that to the camera result.
My current phone is Zen2 Laser, so I don't think I'll feel the difference since I haven't owned any 845 device. If it's not horrible, and if there's no difference in camera and battery (I'll still ask around and look for more reviews about this), I think I'll go with normal Zen5 for the next 2-4 years.
I still hope you can give more insight when your Zen5z arrived later
edit: from the other thread, I think Zen5z has a bit better battery, but not by much