[Q] Input lag with SNES emulator? - Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey all,
So I got SNES9x EX+ sideloaded and booting up just fine. Loaded up some games and was playing away. Something felt off and I noticed that there is just a tiny bit of input lag from button press to game. Has anyone else experienced this?
I am using the Amazon game controller or whatever it's called, if that matters. Wasn't sure if this was a known issue, or do I need to edit/change anything?

sTo0z said:
Hey all,
So I got SNES9x EX+ sideloaded and booting up just fine. Loaded up some games and was playing away. Something felt off and I noticed that there is just a tiny bit of input lag from button press to game. Has anyone else experienced this?
I am using the Amazon game controller or whatever it's called, if that matters. Wasn't sure if this was a known issue, or do I need to edit/change anything?
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I tried to use a Nyko playpad pro which from my understanding is the same as the fire controller. I noticed a lag with it, basically made most games unplayable. I switched to a xbox 360 controller using the usb receiver dongle and it is working superbly.

barbedwiredave said:
I tried to use a Nyko playpad pro which from my understanding is the same as the fire controller. I noticed a lag with it, basically made most games unplayable. I switched to a xbox 360 controller using the usb receiver dongle and it is working superbly.
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Excellent news, I'll give that a shot, thank you for the reply.

I've had inconsistent lag with a MOGA Bluetooth controller, both on my phone and on my FireTV stick. Sometimes it's spot on, but then other times the lag will get me killed. Old school gaming does not work well with any input lag. I'm glad I read this before buying the Amazon controller.
Now I wonder if I'll find a way to get the XBOX controller to work on the FireTV stick...

Fenix8452 said:
I've had inconsistent lag with a MOGA Bluetooth controller, both on my phone and on my FireTV stick. Sometimes it's spot on, but then other times the lag will get me killed. Old school gaming does not work well with any input lag. I'm glad I read this before buying the Amazon controller.
Now I wonder if I'll find a way to get the XBOX controller to work on the FireTV stick...
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Yah it's kind of strange... Other games seem to work just fine with the controller (and I kind of like the controller). Mostly have played the Sev Zero seems to work just fine with no input lag, felt like just playing any other system, but SNES 9x EX+ or whatever just didn't work well with it.
Hoping to try out the Receiver + 360 controllers today and verify no input lag as someone had suggested.

barbedwiredave said:
I tried to use a Nyko playpad pro which from my understanding is the same as the fire controller. I noticed a lag with it, basically made most games unplayable. I switched to a xbox 360 controller using the usb receiver dongle and it is working superbly.
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I have an xbox360 controller with usb receiver and am getting about 1-2 second lag on keypress. I use the same controller and receiver on my pc and there's no lag. Both are official MS products. I found this thread because I was looking to see if the amazon controller showed similar lag with an snes emulator (Snes9x Ex+). Looks like OP is having the same issue I have with the FireTV controller, but it looks like you aren't having the problem with my same setup, unless you're using 3rd party.
Did you do anything special, or just plugged it in and all was well?

I have both the Nyko playpad and the Xbox 360 wireless receiever. I have noticed lag using both controllers (on most emulators). Playing around with the refresh rate settings in the emulator seemed to help some. Changing the refresh rate to 60 worked the best. Disabling any TV motion effect (120hz or greater) for your Fire TV input also helps, but I don' think the lag is completely eliminated. I'm interested to see if anyone else has ideas/input. It doesn't seem like a controller issue.
esdouble said:
I have an xbox360 controller with usb receiver and am getting about 1-2 second lag on keypress. I use the same controller and receiver on my pc and there's no lag. Both are official MS products. I found this thread because I was looking to see if the amazon controller showed similar lag with an snes emulator (Snes9x Ex+). Looks like OP is having the same issue I have with the FireTV controller, but it looks like you aren't having the problem with my same setup, unless you're using 3rd party.
Did you do anything special, or just plugged it in and all was well?
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The 360 controller + receiver definitely improved for me over the Amazon game controller, but there is still a tiny bit.. I'll try messing around with some settings as well that were mentioned in this thread.
Super Mario World was way more playable though, with the 360 controller + receiver.

esdouble said:
I have an xbox360 controller with usb receiver and am getting about 1-2 second lag on keypress. I use the same controller and receiver on my pc and there's no lag. Both are official MS products. I found this thread because I was looking to see if the amazon controller showed similar lag with an snes emulator (Snes9x Ex+). Looks like OP is having the same issue I have with the FireTV controller, but it looks like you aren't having the problem with my same setup, unless you're using 3rd party.
Did you do anything special, or just plugged it in and all was well?
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I did nothing special, just plugged it into my 4 port hub with 0 lag on NES, SNES, Genesis emu's. It is the official Microsoft wireless dongle, not sure if that matters

barbedwiredave said:
I did nothing special, just plugged it into my 4 port hub with 0 lag on NES, SNES, Genesis emu's. It is the official Microsoft wireless dongle, not sure if that matters
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Interesting. My controller and dongle are both official microsoft products, but I don't have a hub. Is your hub powered? Also, what emulator? I'm mainly interested in SNES at the moment and am using SNES9x EX+

With my DS4 controller it will work beautifully for about 5 minutes then I would get massive input lag .. like minute delays making it absolutely useless .. it also makes my firetv remote useless .. as if the Bluetooth reciever is absolutely jammed up. I have to restart or disconnect controller and wait 5-10 minutes before I can use any bluetooth devices ... soo uhh if you have input lag maybe try a non bluetooth controller
Has anyone else experienced this?

Yep definitely lagging the system with the Xbox 360 dongle. I have to unplug the dongle to make the system stable again.

i have the same probleme here on Fire TV Stick with Bluetooth controller! Is there a workaround or any news??
Perhaps we could write a bugreport to amazon?

I also agree with esdouble, but the thinking of my way the RetroArch emulator is one of the best emulator.

I only came to this thread researching if the Amazon Fire TV controller was any better than my Stratus XL which constantly has input lag issues when playing SNES 9X on my Fire TV 3 Gen which I see is no better.

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GameStop Tablet Wireless Bluetooth Controller gamepad

Saw some threads about this in the A500 section, but anyone try this (or other) controller with the A100?
I'd love to see a list of games/apps that work with it.
I'm sure it works great with the emulators
I thought I had found the pairing/installation guide online, but now I can't find it again. So I posted the product description from GameStop's site below.
Gamestop's retail stores don't even know they are selling this online, but it's been available at least since last christmas season.
They are even planning to sell their own branded tablet for gaming.
Here's the details from their site...
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The Wireless Tablet Game Controller is an incredible accessory only available at GameStop. Consumers can use it with their tablet and an HDMI cable (Micro to standard HDMI- sold at GameStop) to view their tablet games on their HDTV and play form their couch with the wireless controller (up to 30 feet away!). Definitely a new way to game!!
• Simple set up
• Bluetooth wireless technology
• Rechargeable unit with built in batteries and charging cable included
• Mapped control options let you assign buttons to the game actions you want
• Designed to work with select Android tablets
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Works with Version 1.3 and above of GTA III, I know because I am running it on my A100. As for other games, I am not so sure.
I bought mine when i bought my a100 from gamestop before christmas.
I have used the controller with MAME4droid, Riptide GP, SpeedXGalagus and Cordy.
Riptide GP and Cordy came pre-installed by gamestop, don't know if that makes a difference or not.
controller has at least a 20 foot range as well, it works fine from across the living room with the a100 connected to the TV via hdmi cable. (SpeedXGalagus doesn't work with tv because of orientation).
only problem i have had is that the OS sees the controller as a keyboard, so some non games will refuse to show the onscreen keyboard if the controller is connected/bound.
tsenecal said:
only problem i have had is that the OS sees the controller as a keyboard, so some non games will refuse to show the onscreen keyboard if the controller is connected/bound.
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Interesting, What apps? not ran into that issue myself
tsenecal said:
only problem i have had is that the OS sees the controller as a keyboard, so some non games will refuse to show the onscreen keyboard if the controller is connected/bound.
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You can get the keyboard to start poping up like normal. Same thing happens for me with bluetooth mouse. Just click the little keyboard icon down in the bar by the clock and select the keyboard you want to use, and toggle the little slider switch at the top of the menu. Then your keyboard will pop up like normal. You have to do it each time, but at least you get funtionality that way.

S3 Stock Rom + Logitech F310 (Wired Controller) Works nice!

Hey, well since I didnt see a topic about wired controllers yet, I thought I would share my findings yesterday.
I just got in my USB OTG Adapter so when I got home, I tried my Logitech F310 controller on my Stock T-Mobile rom. Works great! (X-Input mode) I was actually navigating the entire screen with my controller, using Circle button to exit out etc. Was very plug and play! Best part, Emulators worked 100% for the key bindings to it! So wanted to pass this info on to anyone else who was wondering about "Wired" option. Since I know we can do Wii controllers, PS3 ones and so. Cept.. I dont WANT to resync or change batteries out all the time.
Now I had seen this on the market too. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.poke64738.usbjoy&hl=en
Its about 5$ but not sure why I would use this if built in all works fine?
I did notice tho the USB port gets a lil warm after awhile of using it. (Since its powering yoru USB device it seems)
Now I did try the gamepad in minecraft. Some buttons work for opening menu, or "digging" however cant seem to make the movement work. So I may try to hit up Notch to allow keybinding options.
In my emulators tho, You set the D-Pad up for that, however a bonus.. analog stick works too for movement without setting anything up! Was playing Arcus Odyssey on Sega last night with the anlog stick heh.
Now I wonder.. if I use a mini usb "Y" adapter so I can have it plugged into the power source and my controller at the same time. That should work right? (This way I can keep it in my Dock, charging it while playing with the controller)
Sixaxis is better and cheaper.
psykhotic said:
Sixaxis is better and cheaper.
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But youd have to resync to PS3 or Tablet each time. Which is what I find annoying. Then till I get the 50$ Universal BT Onlive Controller (Which seems sweet and can dedicate it to android use) The wired option is nice. =)

what is every one using to control there favorite games

So im curious, since the controller dosent really work smoothly with most side loaded games from the plays store. what is everyone using to play them (ex minecraft)? Are you using a app to smooth out the bumps or have you used a ps3 or wii controller and one of the many apps for that? i havent really found a good way yet what about you all?:fingers-crossed:
Onetearfalls said:
So im curious, since the controller dosent really work smoothly with most side loaded games from the plays store. what is everyone using to play them (ex minecraft)? Are you using a app to smooth out the bumps or have you used a ps3 or wii controller and one of the many apps for that? i havent really found a good way yet what about you all?:fingers-crossed:
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I am mostly removing apps which are not working good with controller but would like to know how to get them going.
but there are quite a few application which are working too good with the controller.
Well considering Ouya goes retail at the end of this month they really need to start working on the controller issues. And clean out a lot of those games, half of them don't work and the ones that do really really need work on their controller. Also a really nice feature would be if I could hold down the Ouya button to have the option to turn off the console like Xbox and Ps3, I hate getting up to turn it off.
How does ones get a ps3 controller to work?
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Ozz465 said:
How does ones get a ps3 controller to work?
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you can connect the ps3 via blue tooth and use a ps3 controller app like (https://play.google.com/store/apps/...kaW9zLnNpeGF4aXNjb21wYXRpYmlsaXR5Y2hlY2tlciJd)
and that should work havn't tried it yet though
You would only need that app if the game doesn't natively support it.
If the developer has done a good job, then the PS3 and Xbox 360 controllers should work just fine.
For example, Bomb Squad natively "just works" with the standard Ouya controller, wireless and wired Xbox 360 controllers, and PS3 as well.
This weekend we played 6 player Bomb Squad (you can have up to EIGHT players on one TV!!!!!!!!!!!!!) with 2 Ouya controllers via BlueTooth, 2 off-brand USB wired Xbox 360 controllers, and 2 official MS wireless Xbox 360 controllers (connected via the Xbox 360 USB wireless adapter).
BTW, the adapter I am using for Xbox 360 wireless controllers is http://www.ebay.com/itm/370777929957?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
was like $11 and works great, also works on my PC.
Onetearfalls said:
you can connect the ps3 via blue tooth and use a ps3 controller app like (https://play.google.com/store/apps/...kaW9zLnNpeGF4aXNjb21wYXRpYmlsaXR5Y2hlY2tlciJd)
and that should work havn't tried it yet though
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Nope, you just plug in the ps3 controller via usb and push the reset button on the back and/or the ps3 button. Bluetooth will get messed up and refuse to turn on. Shut down the Ouya by holding down the power button, unplug the controller, start it back up and all your Ouya and PS3 controllers will connect just fine (if it doesn't work right away, go into the menu to pair controllers and just hold down the ps3 button instead of the ouya button and it will connect). I use 2 Ouya controllers and 2 PS3 controllers.

XBOX One and Ouya Passthrough

Now I can't be the only one doing this so I am looking for some support.
I have an Xbox One and use my Ouya primarily for XBMC. I had the Ouya working through the pass through HDMI, but now it is struggling to keep the signal.
Anyone have any suggestions or solutions to make it consistently keep the signal?
I am still using amp restart trick to get passthrough working on ouya. If you find some other solution or configuration setting on your amp/tv/ouya post it.
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Works great for me on my XBone. Have it running through a HDMI splitter that has the PS3 and Ouya both going through it. The Ouya is very passive regarding wanting to display, but as long as the PS3 is off it's been rock solid for me. Actually watching a TV show through XBMC on the Ouya through the XBone. For the voice controls. It's nice to be able to control the volume by talking.
I love the hdmi passthrough, and the multitasking. Playing titanfall and forza while watching tv is nice. So far i haven't had any issues, maybe the next ouya will have CEC and will work better with the xbox one.

Controller pairing

Hi, I've got the d855 g3, I play games on it a lot, a while back I tried using a keyboard and mouse to play gta San andreas, it sort of worked, except for the mouse which just made me keep spinning. I got a wired xbox 360 controller recently and plugged that into my phone. It worked, I tried San andreas again but I had no control of the direction I'd be looking, the camera was circling my character. So then I tried modern combat 5, it didn't work either, it just looked up, whilst all my other buttons and controls worked. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!
You can use Sixaxis app with a PS3 controller (Bluetooth) and it will work natively without setting up a controller profile.
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That's not really what I meant, it's noth8ng to do with the controller profile, every controller just looks up, whether it's the mouse and keyboard or my wired xbox controller, I dint have a Sony console, so buying a dualshock would be a waste. Have you got a fix for the looking up problem?
Anyone else?
Nvm worked it out.had to enter some type of code onto a terminal emulator. Search it on xda forums if you need it.

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