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I've just changed from a Gear Live to a Moto 360 and after charging and syncing the battery died after three hours! Horrendous. Someone please advise! My gear Live with the same settings never did this.
Hi,
I just received a Moto 360, and I know what you're going through!
I've gone from 3 charges a day previously, and today the watch is reporting I have almost 2 days remaining of charge.
First, FULLY cycle the battery. Leave it on the stand over night, run it until it turns off (if you're in a rush, ambient display, full brightness!). Then, full charge to 100% and leave it for an hour on the charger once it is full.
After that, do a factory reset on the watch (in settings). In Android Wear on phone, use the settings menu to resync your apps.
Do one more full discharge and full charge, and you should be sorted.
If not, use the Watch Battery section of the wear app to identify problem apps. Before today, I had never seen a "watch idle" entry, because an app was holding the watch awake. Identifying and removing that app has solved the rest of my problems.
Hope all this works. Some of the steps seem/may be unnecessary, such as the factory reset, multiple full charge cycles. However, I speak from experience that they do work!
Edit: Do be aware that the charge cycles where you do a factory reset and sync will drastically drain the battery, giving the illusion that the problem is still there.
chrispy_212 said:
Hi,
I had never seen a "watch idle" entry, because an app was holding the watch awake. Identifying and removing that app has solved the rest of my problems.
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So which app was that. Could you be specific please? I've had my 360 since October and had no issues with battery life until about 2 weeks ago and now it can't make it through a work shift all of a sudden. I've seen the 'watch idle' and the android guy with no title in the battery stats (as well as 'Bluetooth', which is mind blowing) as the main drains but I can't figure out which apps need the boot. Thanks in advance for the help, this problem is driving me crazy!
For me it was WeChat. I didn't even know it had a wear component. However, using Wear Battery Stats (available on Google Play) I noticed that there was a missing icon under "app activity" because it had updated that day. Tapping on this blank icon told me it was an activity belonging to WeChat. Using this, I deduced that was the problem app. Removing it seems to have solved my issue. I'd recommend a similar process, although I only found this app on that day due to it updating, so you may struggle. I get the impression the standard of coding of wear apps so far is pretty shoddy, I don't think not providing a package name and icon is unusual or specific to this one app.
chrispy_212 said:
Hi,
I just received a Moto 360, and I know what you're going through!
I've gone from 3 charges a day previously, and today the watch is reporting I have almost 2 days remaining of charge.
First, FULLY cycle the battery. Leave it on the stand over night, run it until it turns off (if you're in a rush, ambient display, full brightness!). Then, full charge to 100% and leave it for an hour on the charger once it is full.
After that, do a factory reset on the watch (in settings). In Android Wear on phone, use the settings menu to resync your apps.
Do one more full discharge and full charge, and you should be sorted.
If not, use the Watch Battery section of the wear app to identify problem apps. Before today, I had never seen a "watch idle" entry, because an app was holding the watch awake. Identifying and removing that app has solved the rest of my problems.
Hope all this works. Some of the steps seem/may be unnecessary, such as the factory reset, multiple full charge cycles. However, I speak from experience that they do work!
Edit: Do be aware that the charge cycles where you do a factory reset and sync will drastically drain the battery, giving the illusion that the problem is still there.
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chrispy_212 said:
For me it was WeChat. I didn't even know it had a wear component. However, using Wear Battery Stats (available on Google Play) I noticed that there was a missing icon under "app activity" because it had updated that day. Tapping on this blank icon told me it was an activity belonging to WeChat. Using this, I deduced that was the problem app. Removing it seems to have solved my issue. I'd recommend a similar process, although I only found this app on that day due to it updating, so you may struggle. I get the impression the standard of coding of wear apps so far is pretty shoddy, I don't think not providing a package name and icon is unusual or specific to this one app.
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Thanks for the reply. I don't use that specific app so no luck there. Good call on Wear Battery Stats though. I actually already use it but I'll use its stats this time instead of the standard wear stats. Thanks again, hopefully I can find the culprit, been having issues with my phone battery as well recently too.
B1gC72 said:
Thanks for the reply. I don't use that specific app so no luck there. Good call on Wear Battery Stats though. I actually already use it but I'll use its stats this time instead of the standard wear stats. Thanks again, hopefully I can find the culprit, been having issues with my phone battery as well recently too.
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fyi - i haven't tested this since it happened, but i disabled BT on my phone (just disabled in settings, without disconnecting the wtch first) and the watch drained itself in probably about 20-30 minutes. When I finally got it charged, it said BT took everything.
When I was having app issues, I also noticed very high bluetooth consumption. This could likely be a poorly coded app constantly trying to ping your phone for data and receiving no reply as it is not designed for a scenario where your phone is not connected.
The alternative of course is defective hardware.
A step I did not include in my original post was that I also clean-flashed a new rom on my phone. I felt this was due to a unique problem that I had (bluetooth problems in car also) but nonetheless thought I should mention that too. It's hard to be sure which step exactly cured my watch.
Same was happening to me, after several master resets and trial and error, i found that on my Samsung s7 edge i had my watch set as a trusted device so when it was connected to my phone my device would unlock without passcode. After turning that off, battery life is normal again, 24hrs plus. I think the constant bluetooth checking to see if it was attached drained battery extremely fast, hopefully this helps someone
Hi i was using moto 360 and had a predty good battery life.But from today morning to went from 100 percent to 20 in one hour with no use .In battery stats it shows an unammed app with the defualt icon on android app a green android.Has anyone else experienced something like this and what can i do
aggelosss5 said:
Hi i was using moto 360 and had a predty good battery life.But from today morning to went from 100 percent to 20 in one hour with no use .In battery stats it shows an unammed app with the defualt icon on android app a green android.Has anyone else experienced something like this and what can i do
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Is your phone rooted? No, it's not the reason, but it may help.
Prosecutor: Objection! Judge - relevance?
Me: Your Honor, I have a point.
Judge: Sustained, you may proceed.
Hi thanks for the answer yes my phone is rooted
Cannot in any way connect the root status of the phone (?) to excessive drain on the watch.
First day of using it (got it yesterday) I got about 6 hours out of my watch. I went through playing with everything yesterday already, so not that much action today, only the regular Gmail and Hangouts notifications. Top consumer, as per the OP an unnamed app. I would have expected more from my watch, to be honest. Ideas?
Oh, and got the update notification for 5.0.2 directly after turning it on and pairing, so I'm on 5.0.2 already.
Same here
schaggo said:
Cannot in any way connect the root status of the phone (?) to excessive drain on the watch.
First day of using it (got it yesterday) I got about 6 hours out of my watch. I went through playing with everything yesterday already, so not that much action today, only the regular Gmail and Hangouts notifications. Top consumer, as per the OP an unnamed app. I would have expected more from my watch, to be honest. Ideas?
Oh, and got the update notification for 5.0.2 directly after turning it on and pairing, so I'm on 5.0.2 already.
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Hi, i got the same issue since i updated to 5.0.2. I used to get a full heavy use day and still remain 30%40% at the end of the day, after the update i only get 11-12 hours of use. Any help will be highly appreciated.
Note: My phone is also rooted.
I'm not fully through testing/verifying the following, but I made an obervation.
I used the watch the other day and got about 18+ hours out of it. Dont know exactly, just put it on the charger and was happy still having juice left.
The following day, all was going well up until to that moment I started using a timer app on my phone, which counted down at 5 minute intervals and showed a live updating notification doing so. I didnt pay attention to the watch, as the timer is phone only, but as I checked the watch at some point for something different, I noticed the battery dropped significantly since I last checked. Upon checking the battery stats, I found that the charge started dropping at about the moment I started continuously timering.
I take from this, that when using tools which interact with or update your phones notification drawer, the watch will get somehow polled as well. But I am still investigating.
In case you wonder: its an ingress portal hack countdown timer.
Question about settings?
schaggo said:
I'm not fully through testing/verifying the following, but I made an obervation.
I used the watch the other day and got about 18+ hours out of it. Dont know exactly, just put it on the charger and was happy still having juice left.
The following day, all was going well up until to that moment I started using a timer app on my phone, which counted down at 5 minute intervals and showed a live updating notification doing so. I didnt pay attention to the watch, as the timer is phone only, but as I checked the watch at some point for something different, I noticed the battery dropped significantly since I last checked. Upon checking the battery stats, I found that the charge started dropping at about the moment I started continuously timering.
I take from this, that when using tools which interact with or update your phones notification drawer, the watch will get somehow polled as well. But I am still investigating.
In case you wonder: its an ingress portal hack countdown timer.
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Do you by chance have your dev options enabled on your device that your Moto 360 is connected to? If so, I did a test on my device to see if that was a battery hog on my Moto 360 and turns out it seems to be. Un-named app (android icon) showing the most usage but the graph I have shows upon Dev options enabled, battery began to plummet badly. Just an observation. I perform testing on mobile and wearable as part of my job but I didn't have a way to analyze any logs for this wearable (moto 360). I don't have Moto's log analysis tool.
I do have dev options enabled. But as the watch is now generally behaving well, I don't think it's connected but happened to you by accident. This is only a guess though.
To be honest, I'm on xda with a couple of posts made already, of course I have dev options enabled :laugh: I use plenty of tools day in day out which need dev options. I also on a regular basis manipulate my device via adb, so dev options really is a must.
Anyway, I will observe this some more and get back to this thread in case I find any new developments.
[Q] "This app is using a lot of battery" notifications for Spotify on G3 Lollipop
I am using Spotify on LG G3 with Lollipop update installed (Build number: LRX21R.A1421650137, Software version: V20h-EUR-XX) and I keep getting a notification from "Android System" that "This app is using a lot of battery", asking me whether I want to close it (see attachment).
I don't get this notification for any other apps (even the ones that use a lot of battery), and while Spotify does seem to use too much battery, it is not significantly more than other apps (at least as far as I can see).
I am all in on Spotify, so even if it's true, I would like to disable this notification, but because it is a system notification, I can't turn it off, but it pops up ALL THE TIME, and is driving me mad.
Has anyone experienced similar issues, or know how I make the notification go away permanently?
There also seems to be a G3-specific Reddit thread about this issue (I can't post the link, because I am a new user.)
Same stuff is happening to me. I think it's just the amount of batt Spotify consumes. I noticed is draining far more batt than PowerAmp for example. Hope they improve the app.
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Same stuff is happening to me. I think it's just the amount of batt Spotify consumes. I noticed is draining far more batt than PowerAmp for example. Hope they improve the app.
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There is nothing to improve, Spotify accesses the network to load your music. This uses more energy than Poweramp could use, no wonder! Still the power consumption is nothing compared to the screen or whatever.
Everything is fine with that and the problem is just this useless notification. I also did not find a solution by now. Interesting thing is that I have a LG G3 too, but I can't imagine this to be device specific. Isn't that a lollipop "feature"?
philler79 said:
There is nothing to improve, Spotify accesses the network to load your music. This uses more energy than Poweramp could use, no wonder! Still the power consumption is nothing compared to the screen or whatever.
Everything is fine with that and the problem is just this useless notification. I also did not find a solution by now. Interesting thing is that I have a LG G3 too, but I can't imagine this to be device specific. Isn't that a lollipop "feature"?
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I don't think this is a fair assessment of the problem. Other music player apps which conceivably have the same type of usage, e.g. Google Play streaming which I also tried out, certainly didn't cause this warning. In fact, no other app of any type on my phone causes this problem, some of which use more battery than Spotify.
The warning that appears from the Android OS seems to based on real battery statistics gathered by the OS. If I click on the nofitication, it takes me to the battery up that is built in to Lollipop, which shows battery usage percentages for each running app. Spotify is indeed very high up on the list, and based on these statistics seem to cause the battery to detoriorate faster than normal.
The way I see that there is one of three possibilities:
Spotify, for some unknown reason, uses much more battery than it should, e.g. there is a long thread on Spotify community about Android and massive battery drain. This seems to be anecdotally related to "keep awake" and/or SD card. On pre-Lollipop versions of Android, there was no system-level battery usage statistics so people could not point a definite finger to the problem, but with Lollipop the system can for the first time record and notify this higher-than-normal battery usage.
Spotify battery usage is within normal limits and there is a bug in Android battery usage notification/statistics that is causing this notification to show up incorrectly.
Sptofiy battery usage is within normal limits, there is no bug in Adroid battery usage notifications, but in LG G3 Lollipop ROM, LG messed something up in Android which means the notification shows up incorrectly.
It has to be one of these three issues, anything else is not a possibility. Regardless of which one it is (hopefully whoever caused the problem will acknowledge and fix it eventually), it drives me mad that this notification keeps popping up every time I use Spotify and there is no way for me to disable it, because it is a system level notification.
I believe it is ultimately a flaw in Android OS or LG ROM that there is no way to take note of and turn off this notification, even if it is valid.
What is strange is that I have not seen this issue reported for other Lollipop devices, e.g. Nexus 5/6. It seems to be G3-specific at the moment. As I mentioned before, there is a G3-specific Reddit thread about it as well, which I can't paste the link to at the moment (nor can I post the link to Spotify Android battery drain thread...)
rikoe said:
I don't think this is a fair assessment of the problem. Other music player apps which conceivably have the same type of usage, e.g. Google Play streaming which I also tried out, certainly didn't cause this warning. In fact, no other app of any type on my phone causes this problem, some of which use more battery than Spotify.
The warning that appears from the Android OS seems to based on real battery statistics gathered by the OS. If I click on the nofitication, it takes me to the battery up that is built in to Lollipop, which shows battery usage percentages for each running app. Spotify is indeed very high up on the list, and based on these statistics seem to cause the battery to detoriorate faster than normal.
The way I see that there is one of three possibilities:
Spotify, for some unknown reason, uses much more battery than it should, e.g. there is a long thread on Spotify community about Android and massive battery drain. This seems to be anecdotally related to "keep awake" and/or SD card. On pre-Lollipop versions of Android, there was no system-level battery usage statistics so people could not point a definite finger to the problem, but with Lollipop the system can for the first time record and notify this higher-than-normal battery usage.
Spotify battery usage is within normal limits and there is a bug in Android battery usage notification/statistics that is causing this notification to show up incorrectly.
Sptofiy battery usage is within normal limits, there is no bug in Adroid battery usage notifications, but in LG G3 Lollipop ROM, LG messed something up in Android which means the notification shows up incorrectly.
It has to be one of these three issues, anything else is not a possibility. Regardless of which one it is (hopefully whoever caused the problem will acknowledge and fix it eventually), it drives me mad that this notification keeps popping up every time I use Spotify and there is no way for me to disable it, because it is a system level notification.
I believe it is ultimately a flaw in Android OS or LG ROM that there is no way to take note of and turn off this notification, even if it is valid.
What is strange is that I have not seen this issue reported for other Lollipop devices, e.g. Nexus 5/6. It seems to be G3-specific at the moment. As I mentioned before, there is a G3-specific Reddit thread about it as well, which I can't paste the link to at the moment (nor can I post the link to Spotify Android battery drain thread...)
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...it's still the memory bug, I quote; "It seems one of the bugs that plagued Android 5.0 Lollipop is still haunting some users who recently updated to Android 5.1 Lollipop, the first major update to Android Lollipop.
Some users have reported a memory leak issue in the Android 5.1 update that causes apps to crash and even fills device's memory." (gadgetsndtv.com)
Sorry but I agree with rikoe on this one. if this is an Android 5.0 issue, I would have seen the same alert on other applications (I use like 40) none of them are showing up this alert, only Spotify.
Then I tested it about batt consumption. While POWERAMP uses 5%-6% for 1.2 hour of music playing, Spotify uses 10%11% (playing only saved songs and not using 3g or 4g at ALL, only 2G with streaming disabled)
Spotify needs to improve the app.
I see this notification when using TuneIn Radio Pro, which suggests its not a Spotify specific issue.
Naturally TuneIn Radio does use a lot of battery whilst streaming over 3G / 4G, especially if I'm also playing that stream at high volume through the phones speakers. The same I assume is true with Spotify.
I find this notification to be very irritating. Whilst this function might have limited uses in identifying rogue apps which are have significant battery drain, I am fully aware that in this instance my chosen use of my phone will result in faster than normal battery usage. I don't need a notification constantly alerting me to this, especially a notification in the style of Lollipop notifications, which even after seeing this issue for several weeks I still automatically assume to be a genuine notification (FB, Whatsapp etc) rather than an annoying system warning which I can't disable.
My best guess (based on this not being reported for any other device, LG or not) would be that this is an option built in to Lollipop which LG have either chosen to enable and/or set the threshold for activation too low. If LG insist on having this sort of option it needs to either be tucked away in the Battery Settings section, to be viewed at will, or it needs further functionality to allow me to 'approve' TuneIn Radio, Spotify or any other high battery usage app.
LG do seem to like to baby their users, whether that be through this particular issue, constant volume warnings or telling me to unplug my fully charged phone to save power. I don't like it and it isn't improving their chances of my next phone being another LG.
Let's hope they fix this quietly with the next update.
I believe, it is in the LG Rom. Because I have been using AOSP for 4 months and I've never had this problem until I updated to LG lollipop rom. Vs985
Another LG G3 user here.
I had this issue on LG stock lollipop, it dissapeared when I installed Cloudy 2.1. Yesterday I upgraded to Cloudy 2.2 and the problem reappeared.
I am now trying another lock screen (echo) to see if it dissapears.
Also happens with Spotify on the LG G Flex 2. Slightly ironic considering it came with Spotify (or at least the Sprint variant does).
I'm getting this popup for different programs, all are listed as using 0% since last full charge (which I do once per day)
I was just searching this issue for my LG style 2 plus... I have android 6.0.1. Like martenw I get 0 battery usage since last charge, however the app causing me issues is jet audio. So I was really hoping someone has made an xposed module to turn this nuisance alert/warning off...
Hello XDA community,
I just switched from an older Android Wear watch to the Huawei Watch. So far, even playing with Watchmaker a lot and keeping the screen on more than usual, I've been pleased with the battery life. But, in trying out the apps, I inadvertently started up the "Daily Tracker" fitness app.
I searched the forum for an answer but did not find an answer. Other than a factory reset, is there a way to turn off the built in "Daily Tracker" app?
When I checked my battery stats, it was an app that used about 3% battery life. It's not a noticeable impact for me right now, but 3% could make a difference if some other apps I use were to start draining it more heavily.
Thank you for any suggestions.
Google is running in background and its Max battery drain app.. in the screenshot, i selected put app sleep when not in use, but still its active for 13+ hours in background.. how to fix it..
For me google play services keep running in the background.
Could you please share a pic of your entire battery drainage from the apps?
I disabled it (google app, not play services) since day one, along with other annoying pests via ccswe and package disabler pro, both complement each other perfectly, of course there is the ADB commands method, but I preffer the apps I mentioned, as they provide very useful widgets to enable/disable problematic apps as google, playstore, updates, chrome, etc, you can even disable services within the apps, to avoid background data access or runnig on boot
Subham jyoti said:
For me google play services keep running in the background.
Could you please share a pic of your entire battery drainage from the apps?
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This one?
winol said:
I disabled it (google app, not play services) since day one, along with other annoying pests via ccswe and package disabler pro, both complement each other perfectly, of course there is the ADB commands method, but I preffer the apps I mentioned, as they provide very useful widgets to enable/disable problematic apps as google, playstore, updates, chrome, etc, you can even disable services within the apps, to avoid background data access or runnig on boot
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Can you guide me what needs to be done with these apps? I never seen so much battery drain due to google app on my previous phones
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This one?
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Thnx. Yeah it's same like me. I don't know why it keeps running in the background
atrix4nag said:
Google is running in background and its Max battery drain app.. in the screenshot, i selected put app sleep when not in use, but still its active for 13+ hours in background.. how to fix it..
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Firstly,
Look at my Google usage, screenshot
9 hrs background and only 0.1 % usage..!
So even if your Google is enabled in background
it should only take a minimum % eg 1 % ..?
So i would say that some settings in your
Google..?
that is enabled, eg syncing..... etc
I don't know all the tasks connected to Google.
I would rather cross check with battery
apps eg Betterbatterystats, Gsam battery monitor,
Wakelock detector lite etc
to pinpoint reason, than try and restrict Google.
Bottom line,
If you don't know what to do and you are desperate,
i would then factory reset device.
Should solve the problem..... hopefully.!
Good luck.
willcor said:
Firstly,
Look at my Google usage, screenshot
9 hrs background and only 0.1 % usage..!
So even if your Google is enabled in background
it should only take a minimum % eg 1 % ..?
So i would say that some settings in your
Google..?
that is enabled, eg syncing..... etc
I don't know all the tasks connected to Google.
I would rather cross check with battery
apps eg Betterbatterystats, Gsam battery monitor,
Wakelock detector lite etc
to pinpoint reason, than try and restrict Google.
Bottom line,
If you don't know what to do and you are desperate,
i would then factory reset device.
Should solve the problem..... hopefully.!
Good luck.
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Thanks for your suggestions.
I don't want to do factory reset. I will try with other options first.
atrix4nag said:
Google is running in background and its Max battery drain app.. in the screenshot, i selected put app sleep when not in use, but still its active for 13+ hours in background.. how to fix it..
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Same happened to me. What I did was to delete Data from Play services app, then I deleted cache from phone an voila. I have all sync and functional.
Ps. I charge my phone to 90% and I can get 5-6 SOT at 30% left everyday.
The issue op mentioned is not about google play services, it is about the google app instead I think
The problem is I don't think any batter stat apps can get low enough level stats to indicate what is using the Google app in the background to determine what is causing the drain. Usually, the culprit is an app frequently using location service (your GPS) to check your location which I believe the Android location service coordinates for apps other than the native Android/Google apps are obtained through the Google app in the background. That latter point is purely a guess because as we all know the Google app is a "multipurpose" app and you can't see detailed enough battery usage to determine what function of the app is being used that causes battery drain.
On my S10 5G, for the first 2 weeks I've used it, Google never was in the top 5, taking like 1-2% over the course of a day. Then seemingly all the sudden, it was #1, consuming like close to 1% an hour in the background. So I think, what did I change recently? I enabled Google Discover, but set the option to mae it update less fequently (6 hours) to reduce battery (the option actually says this will reduce battery usage). It didn't make a difference. So I disabled Google Discover and installed Google News instead. My Google app battery usage is lower now. About 0.9% per hour (all background usage of course). I think for most people that's good, but not when you were used to it being more like 0.1-0.2% an hour before.
I think the bottom line is if you want to use more features on your phone you have to live with a bump in battery usage. The 4500 mAh battery on my S10 5G lasts me abotu 1.5 days. LOL. But I don't play games or check Facebook/Instragram all day. Just a few texts, weather alerts, maybe an hour or two of browsing. Mabe an hour total of talk time. So relative to other people I should be less concerned if my phone is lasting well over a day on a charge, actually close to 2 days many times. I know a lot of other more "frequent users" (probably a lot of people younger than myself) that are on social media a lot and or listening to music/watching videos would kill to have their phones last 20-48 hours without having to charge.
Still, I keep an eye on things and it bugs me Google has jumped up. A great app to use is Accubattery and monitor the "SCREEN OFF" discharge rate. You're not actively using apps when the sceen is off so this gives you a good idea of your total background battery usage. You can make changes to settings, charge your for for a while, and let several hours pass, then check the screen off discharge rate and compare it to other discharge periods before you made the settings to determine if the changes you made had much of an effect.
Of course background usage isn't going to be 100% consistent, so the longer you measure the better, as if you look at it over like a 1 hour period, it could be certain apps were just more or less active during that particular hour. But if you compare like half day or more (6+ hour) periods to previous periods, you can get a good gauge if apps setting changes or newly installed apps are eating more battery in the background.
I disable Google feedfack, all their data collecting junk and their data backup too. Google is a pig.
Some blocked Google apks like Playstore are enabled as needed.
Even when Framework and Google Transport are blocked it's sometimes periodically necessary to clear their data to get them from using excessive cpu cycles.
Battery Tracker reports Google Framework running when AOD is on but it's likely misreading as long as battery draw remains at around 1%@hour while phone is screen off.
I'm running on Pie... who knows what Q will do.
Most likely make a bigger mess.