[Q] Where is network time sync (Tab S 10.5 Wi-Fi Stock) - Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am surprised that after months and fifteen pages of Galaxy Tab S discussion no one has asked this question yet. On a 16GB wifi-only T800 model running the stock 4.4.2 Kit Kat OS, where is the option for the automatic network time synchronization?
I am looking under Settings > General > Date and Time
There is no option for automatic or network time sync. There is only a possibility to set time manually. I could post a screenshot if you wish.

Akopps said:
I am surprised that after months and fifteen pages of Galaxy Tab S discussion no one has asked this question yet. On a 16GB wifi-only T800 model running the stock 4.4.2 Kit Kat OS, where is the option for the automatic network time synchronization?
I am looking under Settings > General > Date and Time
There is no option for automatic or network time sync. There is only a possibility to set time manually. I could post a screenshot if you wish.
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Ya I noticed this too on my sm-t700 I just set the time and forgot about it :laugh:

Well afaik network time sync refers to synchronising the time with a local network cell tower. If you only have wifi you cant possibly sync with the network.
However i do agree that it could easily be achieved via an internet ntp server, but that would be a different option to select and seeing as you can do this by simply installing an app, i guess the choice is left to the user.

Just got my 8.4 wifi yesterday. Opened it up, booted up, and once I connected to my home wifi the time & date auto set. I didn't have to do anything.

ingenious247, perhaps the 8.4 model comes without this issue.
ashyx,
I am personally think that the lack of option for NTP time setting should be treated like a bug. A lot of network protocols and applications rely on time being set accurately. I think nearly every network connected OS for the last 20 years had an NTP client (don't know about Win 95, but NT4 should have certainly had it). Installing a third party app does not correct this issue because you still need to root the device to make this work. I will try to break through Samsung technical support in order to report this as a bug.

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After having a few quick searches, it seems like Android does now use NTP for time synchronization, and so this is not a Samsung specific issue. Supposedly the models with GPS receivers can query the NTP servers, but I don't know if they use that information for setting time or something else. Oh well. I guess I might root my device to install a third party app for NTP support.

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Phone will not sync date and time automatically

Hey guys,
I just flashed my T-Mobile Dash Black with EVO's latest WM 6.5 ROM
However, I can't get the time and date to sync automatically via the network
Can someone help me out?
Did this work before with the old ROM? I have never seen this happen actually on any of my devices. Usually they are time-synced from the PC via the AS connection - which only happens if you establish a partnership and not in guest mode.
I've seen this happen on other phone models after flashing to a rom not provided by your carrier. For example, I once flashed an old Samsung phone that had Tmobile ROM to a generic Samsung ROM that had more features. The old ROM would sync the time with Tmobile whenever phone was reset or at regular intervals (I have no idea what intervals, 24 hrs, 1 week?). The new ROM, in spite of having entered all the correct settings for GPRS/WAP and selecting 'automatically update date/time' couldn't synchronize.
I suspect there's some 'magic code' carriers have in their ROMs to enable this but I haven't been able to find any info regarding this since I flashed that phone back in 2003! I purchased a Samsung SGH-720, a tri-band GSM carrier unlocked phone that also couldn't sync the date/time in spite of enabling the option.
Since you're running a modded ROM you'll have to rely on a third-party time sync app. There's a freeware one by SKTools called TSync. It's nothing fancy and won't automatically sync - you have to manually run the app but it works! I changed my date and time to incorrect values and TSync corrected both. Maybe someone else can recommend a good time sync app, preferably free
Two caveats - First, it doesn't know how to initiate an internet connection on EDGE/GPRS - it will give you a 'resource not found' error. Use IE or whatever just to establish a web connection, exit, then run TSync and it will sync with various NIST time servers. They can be edited with the included TSynccfg. Second, you obviously need to have a data plan. With the carrier provided roms no data plan is need to sync date/time.
I would really like to know how the carrier roms time sync - I used to have a Moto Razor V3 that would automatically sync and this was before I had a data plan!
Actually, my problem was fixed after I rebooted the phone.
I've noticed that with 3VO's 6.5 ROM you almost need to reboot the phone everytime you change certain phone settings and/or certain UI settings.
Which is nothing more than an inconvenience, buts it fixed now.
Thanks for the replies.

[Q] how to set date and time automatically

i'm surprised this tablet does not automatically set the date, time, or time zone from the internet. there is no option under date & time settings. is there anything that i missed?
thanks
krizz07 said:
i'm surprised this tablet does not automatically set the date, time, or time zone from the internet. there is no option under date & time settings. is there anything that i missed?
thanks
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N5100 has the option in Settings/Date and time - Automatically sync date and time, don't know about N5110 - maybe having no 3G it needs third party NTP client? It would be somewhat logical - smartphones sync time with mobile operator, no 3G no operator for N5110
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this sucks, looks like an android limitation. there are clock syncing apps around but it requires root. too bad.
krizz07 said:
this sucks, looks like an android limitation. there are clock syncing apps around but it requires root. too bad.
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Not a WiFi issue (as a previouos post suggested) and possibly not even an Android issue. My old WiFI-only HTC Flyer updates to local time just fine by reading the location from the WiFi network. And unless this is some HTC Sense specific feature, it should be inherent in Android.
I noticed this too on my last business trip to a different time zone. Its disappointed. Really, Android is mature enough that we should be past the point of obvious missing features like this. Either Google or Samsung dropped the ball here. Its not a big deal, of course, just an annoying and silly feature to be missing.
redpoint73 said:
Not a WiFi issue (as a previouos post suggested) and possibly not even an Android issue. My old WiFI-only HTC Flyer updates to local time just fine by reading the location from the WiFi network. And unless this is some HTC Sense specific feature, it should be inherent in Android.
I noticed this too on my last business trip to a different time zone. Its disappointed. Really, Android is mature enough that we should be past the point of obvious missing features like this. Either Google or Samsung dropped the ball here. Its not a big deal, of course, just an annoying and silly feature to be missing.
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somewhere on the web I've seen official reply from Google to one of the devs, regarding why time sync is not possible without root: "security reasons", so good or bad, it is their conscious choice
it's true that it's not a very big deal since you can set the time manually.
but just to share my story why this caught my attention:
my GF bought an ipad mini and i made her return it and get a note 8.0 instead since it has great productivity apps pre-installed and the usefulness of the s-pen is great with work related functions. So after the first boot up, the first thing she noticed is that the date and time did not sync automatically considering it's already connected to the web and there is no option to sync it. this is not a good first impression because the ipad synced the time ok. this is just a step back and somewhat embarassing for me considering how much i preach to her how good android is.
the good news is she is starting to like the tablet and it seems like she got over it now lol. i just wished google will make it so that their own OS can natively set the time from the internet. if they think that third party apps are security risks, then why not do it within the system itself?
When I first set mine up, it did get date and time automagically.
Over the weekend, it crashed in an odd way and when I got it to talk to me again, it had
- chosen not to display the network it was connected to, despite being connected and on the intertubes
- decided it was December of 2012
I manually set the time to 'pretty close,' then found an ntp client.
Not sure at all what was going on there. I think there's an ntp client baked in but that it can be gorked under some circumstances.
Since rooting this device is easy peasy and gives you access to things like Titanium as well as ntp clients that can synch, my vote is "install framaroot and root away"
But my vote for any device I own is "root away"

Automatic VPN connection?

Is it possible to have a VPN client start automatically when my phone connects to WiFI. Unrooted with the latest software 6.0.1. I have one phone on T-Mobile and another on Project Fi so the latter may be a problem if I decide to root the phone. Thanks.
Thanks.
Quick google search found me this. I don't believe this requires root. Otherwise, this app seems to be your best option when rooted.
Note - i haven't tried either of these, just did a bit of google searching.
I did search prior to posting and the only solutions I found required root. I will check this out as I already own tasker.
I use Vypr VPN. Allows to auto connect on untrusted WiFi or on a per app basis. Not the cheapest of the VPN's out there but the app interface for phone and computer are excellent. And speeds have always been good. They do Iog but are very open as to what it is they are logging. I did get shut off once from a request generated from using popcorn time but clicking terms of service gets you back up quick... No big deal.

WiFi connected without internet

Dear All,
My note 10+ loosing internet randomly. While checking WiFi showing the message "WiFi connected without internet". after switching on and off it reconnects but lose connection after sometime. My other android phones are connected to the same WiFi but have no issue.
Please help me solve the issue.
Thank you
Arun
i have noticed its happening during whatsapp call duo calls
arunjyothisp said:
Dear All,
My note 10+ loosing internet randomly. While checking WiFi showing the message "WiFi connected without internet". after switching on and off it reconnects but lose connection after sometime. My other android phones are connected to the same WiFi but have no issue.
Please help me solve the issue.
Thank you
Arun
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A similar thread was made on the subject - link here https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/help/android-10-5g-wifi-dropping-t4037661
For practical intents and purposes it's almost like when the issue happens the phone is not able to resolve a DNS query. I base this on 2 hypothesis - first being that the phone is still connected to the wifi access point and can still access LAN resources. The second being that the phone must either poll the internet (i.e ping a specific address) on a regular basis. If the poll was unsuccessful it flags the connection as "WiFi connected but no internet".
The things you can try are:
update the firmware on your phone (if not already)
factory data reset (read note 1 below)
reset network settings
try a different wireless router (read note 2 and 3 below)
disable private dns (read note 4 below)
If you use tasker create a routine to automate a temporary solution (read note 5)
Notes
The issue maybe a corrupted setting within the phone. I have had similar issues before (not with just this phone) and a factory data reset helped. One thing to take note of is that after the phone had completed it's factory data reset I did not attempt to restore a backup. This is important to keep in mind because any issues that were present (due to corrupted settings) would exist also in the pre-factory data reset backup you made.
With my previous router I had this issue but had since replaced it with a Wifi 6 capable router. After getting the new router I have not had any further issues what so ever. Also make sure your wireless router is up to date on it's firmware. It maybe possible that the wireless router you have is old enough (from when it was released, not from when you bought it) that a replacement might be the only way to resolve the issue.
To help rule out a wireless router issue try using a different one. You can borrow a friend's internet connection for a while, or a public cafe or what ever. Point is you are trying to see if the issue happens again when you are using a totally different wireless access point (by totally different I mean hardware/model and not just renaming the SSID).
I had the issue happen when using private DNS. For what ever reason the issue was with the DNS provider I had choosen. Turning the Private DNS setting off helped resolve the issue. After turning the setting off it may take a bit before the phone recognizes it was turned off, but you can hasten this process by toggling WiFi off and back on.
The Tasker option is one I did and it worked quite well. You may need to adjust the routine to suit your particular needs but it's basically what is at this link here. Best part of this option is that you can have it only activate when your connected to the problematic wifi access point and every X number of minutes (helps ensure that you use it only when needed). The routine (when setup correctly) should run every 10 minutes in where it attempts to access a website and assigns the results to a variable. The variable is then checked to see if it matches a specific result (in this case an error code), and if it does match it will toggle WiFi off and back on (after a brief pause/wait period between toggle off and toggle on) automatically. Granted it sounds like a lot of work, but it's really not that complex. Also I consider this is a temporary solution because you may find that on later firmware updates applied to the phone (or you may end up getting a new wireless router) the issue will have been resolved.
"WiFi connected without internet"
I was having the same issue until I uninstalled the app "WiFi Analyzer"
mike.aguailar said:
I was having the same issue until I uninstalled the app "WiFi Analyzer"
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Interesting! Which one? The Play Store lists several apps by that name.
WiFi Analyzer
Gary02468 said:
Interesting! Which one? The Play Store lists several apps by that name.[/QUOTE
WiFi Analyzer by Zoltan Pallagi
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RE the Wi-Fi dropping...

I have fiber at home, the signal is stable, my router is a Google Wifi and I have no problem with any other device (Windows laptop, Galaxy S8+, Chromecast and 16 other Smart Home devices) but the Galaxy A70. The Wi-Fi signal indication and the throughput are usually good BUT, especially under certain conditions, the Galaxy A70 drops the Wi-fi altogether, goes to data and comes back on Wi-fi, usually all within a few seconds. I have tried anything I could think of and after some searching I realized it's just a problem with this phone (which I love, BTW).
It's usually not a big problem except in a couple of situations when it's VERY annoying: when uploading something large to a service/with an app which don't resume uploadings and when mirroring the device on the Chromecast (particularly in the latter case, it happens so often that mirroring is basically unusable).
I worked around it enabling "Wi-Fi temporary mode" (literal translation from the Italian, I don't know how it's called in English) in Developer Options. The Wi-Fi connection, although not perfect, got stable enough to allow me at least to be able to mirror my device without constant disconnections.
Well, yesterday I got the Android 10 update and while no, this issue was not fixed, re-enabling that Developer Options setting (which got reset and which changed name, it's now called "Accelerazione ricerca Wi-Fi" ("Wi-Fi- search acceleration", LOL, it doesn't make much sense in Italian either), I got much better results than on Android Pie. In over 2 hours of mirroring I got zero disconnections!
So, all in all, good news!
Please note that now that setting in Developer Options must be disabled, meaning that it comes enabled by default and you must disable it while in the past to change that Wi-Fi behaviour you had to enable that old setting, which was called differently.

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