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Has anyone figured out how to get an app to appear on the Fire TV home screen? Is it something programmed into the app, or is the Home screen somehow linked to the Appstore, thus only allowing apps in the Appstore to be listed on the Home screen?
elmerohueso said:
Has anyone figured out how to get an app to appear on the Fire TV home screen? Is it something programmed into the app, or is the Home screen somehow linked to the Appstore, thus only allowing apps in the Appstore to be listed on the Home screen?
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I think it has something to do with a link to the Amazon app store. I've sideloaded a bunch of apps and the only one that showed up on the home screen was Spotify (kindle fire version). When I installed the play version of Spotify it didn't show up on the home screen.
elmerohueso said:
Has anyone figured out how to get an app to appear on the Fire TV home screen? Is it something programmed into the app, or is the Home screen somehow linked to the Appstore, thus only allowing apps in the Appstore to be listed on the Home screen?
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I would place bets that it has to be signed somehow by amazon in order for it to show up on the main screen. Or like the kindle fire they put an option in to allow unauthorized apps.
MrMichaelJames said:
I would place bets that it has to be signed somehow by amazon in order for it to show up on the main screen. Or like the kindle fire they put an option in to allow unauthorized apps.
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Koying found this:
From https://developer.amazon.com/sdk/asb/faq.html#General , it appears Amazon checks if an app is sideloaded and doesn't show it on the main screen if it is. One of the way they could do so is to check from which application the apk was installed, which would return nothing when we sideload via adb.
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MrMichaelJames said:
I would place bets that it has to be signed somehow by amazon in order for it to show up on the main screen. Or like the kindle fire they put an option in to allow unauthorized apps.
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this was my thought too.
so I pulled a copy of spotify from google, and a copy from amazon store. the amazon version does not show up in my apps list like it did for dhayman11. but the only version I could get from amazon was "kindle tablet" whereas dhayman11 said his version was kindle fire.
so the next thing I did was go on the firetv and install pandora.
luckily, the firetv has the same package install method as any generic device with amazon app store: it downloads the apk into
/sdcard/android/data/com.amazon.venezia/files/apks
and then installs it.
and then deletes it lol.
even more luckily, I was able to gank a copy of the apk safely to /sdcard/ on the first try, before it was deleted.
the KF apk of spotify, and the AFTV/KFTV apk of pandora, both have 3 extra files that the google apks do not have. signatures indeed:
KF spotify
com.amazon.content.id.MC-S-2UIMENB7RPX86 2b9caef13142184773d485b1aca955b5
com.amazon.kiwi.version 647a47a71e371ae13642b26cb75c593f
kiwi 96ac1624b345483aa1b393fe52624ddd
KFTV pandora
com.amazon.content.id.MC-S-1UVY84RC4VBZ6 60e678411e0e696dee205591a51609b6
com.amazon.kiwi.version 647a47a71e371ae13642b26cb75c593f
kiwi 96ac1624b345483aa1b393fe52624ddd
so obviously 2 of the files can simply be copied and injected into target apk. but just as obviously, 1 file may have to be generated somehow.
but that 1 apk-specific file contains nothing special, just text (which happens to match the filename)
com.amazon.content.id.MC-S-2UIMENB7RPX86 --
MC-S-2UIMENB7RPX86
com.amazon.content.id.MC-S-1UVY84RC4VBZ6 --
MC-S-1UVY84RC4VBZ6
who knows, maybe it doesn't need to be generated, just referenced in the manifest xml somewhere (haven't gotten around to digging into those just yet...)
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of course, the other thing that only occurred to me this morning (which is dumb, because amazon has been talking lots of public talk about it for a while now)
is that repackaging apps with a new signature should be possible with their development tools. and they just happen to have the SDK and eclipse mumbo-gumbo for free download:
https://developer.amazon.com/public/resources/development-tools
(I'm guessing they make their money when you want your app in the amazon store, rather than charging for the sdk which was historically more usual)
tarvoke said:
this was my thought too.
so I pulled a copy of spotify from google, and a copy from amazon store. the amazon version does not show up in my apps list like it did for dhayman11. but the only version I could get from amazon was "kindle tablet" whereas dhayman11 said his version was kindle fire.
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Yeah I just tried to replicate it and its not showing up in my "apps library" list now either. Must have been a glitch or something. It was likely the "Kindle tablet" version, rather than "Kindle fire" version, I just remember it said something about being the kindle version.
dhayman11 said:
Yeah I just tried to replicate it and its not showing up in my "apps library" list now either. Must have been a glitch or something. It was likely the "Kindle tablet" version, rather than "Kindle fire" version, I just remember it said something about being the kindle version.
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oh ok
I figured it was just me doing something wrong.as usual
It probably has to do with the exact app name (com.amazon.bah.blah.blah). I sideloaded updated Plex app (paid app), since amazon store is behind, and it shows on the home screen.
So if it's on the amazon store, and available for Fire TV, and has the same name, then it will probably show regardless of where it came from, version, or if it was sideloaded.
Luxferro said:
It probably has to do with the exact app name (com.amazon.bah.blah.blah). I sideloaded updated Plex app (paid app), since amazon store is behind, and it shows on the home screen.
So if it's on the amazon store, and available for Fire TV, and has the same name, then it will probably show regardless of where it came from, version, or if it was sideloaded.
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No, it just needs to be signed by Amazon.
Remember, this is the Apple-era, where only losers sell hardware for a profit. The winners make a profit off everything you do with "your" hardware. Amazon didn't make Fire TV so you can have a cheap HTPC box to do as you please, they made it for you to consume content provided by Amazon. This is why you can't have you apps show up on the home screen, this is also why the Home button on the remote can not be rebound or overridden, and this is also why the voice search feature will only give you results from Amazon.
Check this out.. http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=191109&pid=1682194#pid1682194
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sadboyzz said:
No, it just needs to be signed by Amazon.
Remember, this is the Apple-era, where only losers sell hardware for a profit. The winners make a profit off everything you do with "your" hardware. Amazon didn't make Fire TV so you can have a cheap HTPC box to do as you please, they made it for you to consume content provided by Amazon. This is why you can't have you apps show up on the home screen, this is also why the Home button on the remote can not be rebound or overridden, and this is also why the voice search feature will only give you results from Amazon.
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Explain how a sideloaded app taken from Google play shows on home page then? A version not available on amazon.
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Luxferro said:
Explain how a sideloaded app taken from Google play shows on home page then? A version not available on amazon.
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the plex thing, who knows. it's a paid app so that's one major difference with everything else we've been playing with.
it's not the classname - amazon is using the same exact namespace as google and anyone else.
com.amazon.kindle
com.pandora.gtv
com.estrongs.android.taskmanager
etc...
because you don't go messing around with namespaces. no one does. for one thing, changing the classname is a licensing problem - quite likely breaking the law. and in practical terms, you could easily end up having 2 versions of the same app fighting over the same resource media/settings/etc. deadlock and threading issues, dirty reads abound.
if I sideload com.pandora.gtv taken from google, it stays in the kiddie menu.
if I sideload the pandora apk that I ganked from the amazon app store, it goes to the app menu.
but in both cases, running "adb shell pm list packages -f" reports that the firetv sees the app as: com.pandora.gtv
how does the firetv decide what happens when you sideload an app? I don't know. I have a moderately good guess.
there are:
- some extra indicator/tag files
- different RSA signatures/certs (check out META-INF)
- possibly non-trivial differences in the manifest xml
below is some info about some indicator files that are in the amazon apks. but not in non-amazon apks.
you can see that 2 of the files are identical between the 2 apks, but still generically saying hey this is some amazon apk not a regular one.
and then there is 1 file that is different. some sort of specific signature or hash.
(each com.amazon.content.id.$FOO file simply contains "$FOO" - it's some sort of unique generated string but no idea what it relates to)
com.amazon.content.id.MC-S-2UIMENB7RPX86 2b9caef13142184773d485b1aca955b5
com.amazon.kiwi.version 647a47a71e371ae13642b26cb75c593f
kiwi 96ac1624b345483aa1b393fe52624ddd
com.amazon.content.id.MC-S-1UVY84RC4VBZ6 60e678411e0e696dee205591a51609b6
com.amazon.kiwi.version 647a47a71e371ae13642b26cb75c593f
kiwi 96ac1624b345483aa1b393fe52624ddd
between this stuff and the RSA certs, that's probably how the firetv is set up to decide how to sort out where to put things.
I imagine similar with OUYA or any platform where this kind of split-userspace thing is going on...
tarvoke said:
the plex thing, who knows. it's a paid app so that's one major difference with everything else we've been playing with.
it's not the classname - amazon is using the same exact namespace as google and anyone else.
com.amazon.kindle
com.pandora.gtv
com.estrongs.android.taskmanager
etc...
because you don't go messing around with namespaces. no one does. for one thing, changing the classname is a licensing problem - quite likely breaking the law. and in practical terms, you could easily end up having 2 versions of the same app fighting over the same resource media/settings/etc. deadlock and threading issues, dirty reads abound.
if I sideload com.pandora.gtv taken from google, it stays in the kiddie menu.
if I sideload the pandora apk that I ganked from the amazon app store, it goes to the app menu.
but in both cases, running "adb shell pm list packages -f" reports that the firetv sees the app as: com.pandora.gtv
how does the firetv decide what happens when you sideload an app? I don't know. I have a moderately good guess.
there are:
- some extra indicator/tag files
- different RSA signatures/certs (check out META-INF)
- possibly non-trivial differences in the manifest xml
below is some info about some indicator files that are in the amazon apks. but not in non-amazon apks.
you can see that 2 of the files are identical between the 2 apks, but still generically saying hey this is some amazon apk not a regular one.
and then there is 1 file that is different. some sort of specific signature or hash.
(each com.amazon.content.id.$FOO file simply contains "$FOO" - it's some sort of unique generated string but no idea what it relates to)
com.amazon.content.id.MC-S-2UIMENB7RPX86 2b9caef13142184773d485b1aca955b5
com.amazon.kiwi.version 647a47a71e371ae13642b26cb75c593f
kiwi 96ac1624b345483aa1b393fe52624ddd
com.amazon.content.id.MC-S-1UVY84RC4VBZ6 60e678411e0e696dee205591a51609b6
com.amazon.kiwi.version 647a47a71e371ae13642b26cb75c593f
kiwi 96ac1624b345483aa1b393fe52624ddd
between this stuff and the RSA certs, that's probably how the firetv is set up to decide how to sort out where to put things.
I imagine similar with OUYA or any platform where this kind of split-userspace thing is going on...
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Yeah, that stuff is kinda over my head (I guess I was wrong on that classname stuff). I was mostly pointing out that the latest version of paid Plex app, taken from google play store and sideloaded on Fire TV shows the app on the homescreen, even though the version from amazon is older and different.
Luxferro said:
Yeah, that stuff is kinda over my head (I guess I was wrong on that classname stuff). I was mostly pointing out that the latest version of paid Plex app, taken from google play store and sideloaded on Fire TV shows the app on the homescreen, even though the version from amazon is older and different.
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yeah that really makes little to no sense I mean, I'm glad it works, and I'm sure plex-using-peoples of the world are very happy. but I have zero clue
right now I am still feeling way too lazy to download the free sdk and learn how to use it. but it does all the correct signing stuff i.e. any app you make with it should go into the grownup app menu on the home screen. and it might even be possible to use it to re-sign apk files from non-amazon sources.
tarvoke said:
the plex thing, who knows. it's a paid app so that's one major difference with everything else we've been playing with.
it's not the classname - amazon is using the same exact namespace as google and anyone else.
com.amazon.kindle
com.pandora.gtv
com.estrongs.android.taskmanager
etc...
because you don't go messing around with namespaces. no one does. for one thing, changing the classname is a licensing problem - quite likely breaking the law. and in practical terms, you could easily end up having 2 versions of the same app fighting over the same resource media/settings/etc. deadlock and threading issues, dirty reads abound.
if I sideload com.pandora.gtv taken from google, it stays in the kiddie menu.
if I sideload the pandora apk that I ganked from the amazon app store, it goes to the app menu.
but in both cases, running "adb shell pm list packages -f" reports that the firetv sees the app as: com.pandora.gtv
how does the firetv decide what happens when you sideload an app? I don't know. I have a moderately good guess.
there are:
- some extra indicator/tag files
- different RSA signatures/certs (check out META-INF)
- possibly non-trivial differences in the manifest xml
below is some info about some indicator files that are in the amazon apks. but not in non-amazon apks.
you can see that 2 of the files are identical between the 2 apks, but still generically saying hey this is some amazon apk not a regular one.
and then there is 1 file that is different. some sort of specific signature or hash.
(each com.amazon.content.id.$FOO file simply contains "$FOO" - it's some sort of unique generated string but no idea what it relates to)
com.amazon.content.id.MC-S-2UIMENB7RPX86 2b9caef13142184773d485b1aca955b5
com.amazon.kiwi.version 647a47a71e371ae13642b26cb75c593f
kiwi 96ac1624b345483aa1b393fe52624ddd
com.amazon.content.id.MC-S-1UVY84RC4VBZ6 60e678411e0e696dee205591a51609b6
com.amazon.kiwi.version 647a47a71e371ae13642b26cb75c593f
kiwi 96ac1624b345483aa1b393fe52624ddd
between this stuff and the RSA certs, that's probably how the firetv is set up to decide how to sort out where to put things.
I imagine similar with OUYA or any platform where this kind of split-userspace thing is going on...
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On submission to the Amazon Appstore, Amazon signs all of your apps with a secure key for your account. The resulting hash code is unique to your app and different from any hash codes you may have for that app in different app stores. I wonder if someone can sign up for a dev account, get the hash keys and apply it locally to a sideloaded app and then load it into the fire tv.
Interesting..
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Use Llama to lunch XBMC or other Apps from FTV Home
I'm using Llama app to access XBMC from the FTV home page. I downloaded an app from Amazon app store that I was never going to use "Classic TV" and created an event in Llama to launch XBMC instead of the other app.
You can go to the XBMC wiki page for the whole instructions about sideloading to FTV. To get the Llama app go to the developer page and download app for sideloading: http://kebabapps.blogspot.com/.
From XBMC.org Wiki for FTV:
Launch XBMC from an Existing App on the FTV Home Screen
There is a alternative way to invoke XBMC from the FTV Home Screen using Llama. This method uses a “sacrificial” app that you have installed from Amazon that you will use to access XBMC. The app can be anything you have installed but don’t need to use; however, some apps behave better than others (some apps will enter a loop when exiting XBMC). One app that has been tested and works well for this purpose is “Classic TV”.
The advantage of this method is that using the sacrificial app you have Home Screen Access to XBMC and you can exit XBMC to the FTV Home Screen just as you would any other FTV app.
4.1 Prerequisites
Llama side loaded on your FTV.
The app called “Classic TV” from the Amazon app store.
One Llama Event (described below).
4.2 Procedure
Install / side-load Llama.
Install “Classic TV” app from Amazon app store.
Launch Llama (From FireTV - Settings > Applications > Llama > Launch Application).
Go to EVENTS on top menu and click '+' to add a NEW EVENT.
In your NEW EVENT select ADD CONDITION then, from the Menu select 'Active Application' and select 'Choose App’. Scroll through the list of apps until you find “Classic TV” and select this app. Doing this should return you to the Events Menu.
Next, select ADD ACTION and select 'Run Application' from the Menu list. From here, select whatever the name of your XBMC build is. That should create your event. At this point you can also name your event to distinguish it from others.
Now when you start the “Classic TV” app from the Home Screen, it should automatically open XBMC. Feel free to experiment with other apps from the FTV app store. Just be aware that some will loop back and re-start XBMC when you try and exit XBMC to get back to the FTV Home Screen.
gmicalzoma said:
I'm using Llama app to access XBMC from the FTV home page. I downloaded an app from Amazon app store that I was never going to use "Classic TV" and created an event in Llama to launch XBMC instead of the other app.
You can go to the XBMC wiki page for the whole instructions about sideloading to FTV. To get the Llama app go to the developer page and download app for sideloading: http://kebabapps.blogspot.com/.
From XBMC.org Wiki for FTV:
Launch XBMC from an Existing App on the FTV Home Screen
There is a alternative way to invoke XBMC from the FTV Home Screen using Llama. This method uses a “sacrificial” app that you have installed from Amazon that you will use to access XBMC. The app can be anything you have installed but don’t need to use; however, some apps behave better than others (some apps will enter a loop when exiting XBMC). One app that has been tested and works well for this purpose is “Classic TV”.
The advantage of this method is that using the sacrificial app you have Home Screen Access to XBMC and you can exit XBMC to the FTV Home Screen just as you would any other FTV app.
4.1 Prerequisites
Llama side loaded on your FTV.
The app called “Classic TV” from the Amazon app store.
One Llama Event (described below).
4.2 Procedure
Install / side-load Llama.
Install “Classic TV” app from Amazon app store.
Launch Llama (From FireTV - Settings > Applications > Llama > Launch Application).
Go to EVENTS on top menu and click '+' to add a NEW EVENT.
In your NEW EVENT select ADD CONDITION then, from the Menu select 'Active Application' and select 'Choose App’. Scroll through the list of apps until you find “Classic TV” and select this app. Doing this should return you to the Events Menu.
Next, select ADD ACTION and select 'Run Application' from the Menu list. From here, select whatever the name of your XBMC build is. That should create your event. At this point you can also name your event to distinguish it from others.
Now when you start the “Classic TV” app from the Home Screen, it should automatically open XBMC. Feel free to experiment with other apps from the FTV app store. Just be aware that some will loop back and re-start XBMC when you try and exit XBMC to get back to the FTV Home Screen.
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Is this possible with any other app rather than kodi?
Thought I would share some apps.
These apps are Google Apps for nonrooted devices. I say nonrooted, cause I assume people with rooted devices have already installed these apps.
1) Install Google Accounts Manager, reboot
2) Install Google Services Framework, reboot
3) Install Google Play Services, reboot - Latest working version 7.0.99
4) Install Play Store and login
http://www.4shared.com/rar/xFL01jekce/Google_Apps.html
Side Note: Google Play Store will not function correctly on nonrooted devices, but it still does things in the background so keep it installed. You can now install apps that need Google Play Services to run.
Live TV Streaming Apps. Mobdro, Live Stream Player, Mediahhh and World Sports Streams
http://www.4shared.com/rar/qgiPSrXhba/Live_TV_Streaming.html
Side Note: World Sports Streams uses XMTV Player and MX Player for all streams. I have provided XMTV Player but you will have to install MX Player, cause I use the pro version and I am not giving a paid app for free.
Third Party App Stores. Blackmart, Mobogenie, Aptoide and 1Mobile Market. These are great for installing apps and updating apps without needing Google Play. Also takes away the need for ADB sideloading.
http://www.4shared.com/rar/fXOGmk_pba/Third_Party_App_Stores.html
Tips: If you are gonna use the third party app stores do not auto update. Update apps one at a time and look at the version numbers to make sure its an actual update and not a down grade. All the apps I have listed in this post work much better with or require a mouse/touchpad to use.
Favorite Live TV Addons For Kodi:
IPTV Stalker
SportsDevil
Robin Hood People List
P2P Streams with website parsers
Other Notable Addons:
1Channel
Pushbullet (Must Have Addon)
Vaughn Live
XunityTalk Music
Xunity Maintenance
A few good apps that work well on the fire TV that I think have become essential to my Fire TV experience:
DU Speed Booster
SD Maid
Dock4Droid (Best app I have used on the Fire TV)
AOL On (Not the Fire TV Version)
SPMC
Fast Reboot
8 Ball Pool
Facebook Desktop 2 also called FBD2
MirrorOP Reciever
DU Speed Booster and SD Maid for cleaning. I use DU Speed Booster then SD Maid, cause I have never found a cleaner yet for Android that deletes as much junk as DU Speed Booster, but as with all cleaners there is still junk left so I follow it up by cleaning with SD Maid to get even more junk off my device. No matter what cleaner you use SD Maid can still find more junk that can be deleted so I always use two cleaners. Dock4Droid is probably the best app I have found for the Fire TV. It makes the Fire TV so much better. It adds great multitsking and will also let you see app info from anywhere so that you can delete apps, force close apps or delete their data/cache fron anywhere. AOL On for news videos. Not the Fire TV version the version you get from the Play store or third party app stores. It has hundreds of outlets to lets you watch serveral generas of news. Fast Reboot used together with Dock4Droid is awesome. You can add the Fast Reboot shortcut to Dock4Droid and do a fast reboot from anywhere. 8Ball Pool, cause its like turning your TV into a pool table, and its a great game. Must use a mouse or touchpad to play though. FBD2 gives you a desktop version of Facebook without having to use a browser. I don't use Facebook a lot but when I do I use FBD2. MirrorOP Recever does the same as miracast, but its a backup for people that cannot mirror their device to the Fire TV. Just install MirrorOP Sender on the device you wanna mirror.
porkenhimer said:
Thought I would share some apps.
These apps are Google Apps for nonrooted devices. I say nonrooted, cause I assume people with rooted devices have already installed these apps.
1) Install Google Accounts Manager, reboot
2) Install Google Services Framework, reboot
3) Install Google Play Services, reboot - Latest working version 7.0.99
4) Install Play Store and login
http://www.4shared.com/rar/xFL01jekce/Google_Apps.html
Side Note: Google Play Store will not function correctly on nonrooted devices, but it still does things in the background so keep it installed. You can now install apps that need Google Play Services to run.
Live TV Streaming Apps. Mobdro, Live Stream Player, Mediahhh and World Sports Streams
http://www.4shared.com/rar/qgiPSrXhba/Live_TV_Streaming.html
Side Note: World Sports Streams uses XMTV Player and MX Player for all streams. I have provided XMTV Player but you will have to install MX Player, cause I use the pro version and I am not giving a paid app for free.
Third Party App Stores. Blackmart, Mobogenie, Aptoide and 1Mobile Market. These are great for installing apps and updating apps without needing Google Play. Also takes away the need for ADB sideloading.
http://www.4shared.com/rar/fXOGmk_pba/Third_Party_App_Stores.html
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can you check that 4shared link? I cant seem to download. Tried 2 different devices. Thanks.
All links are correct. You eiither need a free account or login with Facebook, Twitter etc. If you are downloading them on Android, click the link then click download, but sometime it will take you to a different page for some reason, so hit back once and click download again, then pick free download and then either login to your free account or login through Facebook, Twitter etc.
4shared link down
porkenhimer said:
Thought I would share some apps.
These apps are Google Apps for nonrooted devices. I say nonrooted, cause I assume people with rooted devices have already installed these apps.
1) Install Google Accounts Manager, reboot
2) Install Google Services Framework, reboot
3) Install Google Play Services, reboot - Latest working version 7.0.99
4) Install Play Store and login
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Too late to see this thread. All links at 4shared are down please kindly share again google drive is better. Thanks.
chensa said:
Too late to see this thread. All links at 4shared are down please kindly share again google drive is better. Thanks.
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All links I posted are working. Google drive may be better for you, but I use 4shared. I do not use anything just because someone else thinks its better. If you wanna downloaad the files either create a free account or just use you Facebook, Twitter etc to login to 4shared. I refuse to upoad my files to anoter site just because someeone is too lazy to create an account or connect through their Facebook etc.
Not trying to be rude at all, but I refuse to do anything for someeone who just wants me to make it easier for them to do something. It takes 20 seconds to create a 4shared account and 1 second to connect to 4shared with Facebook or Twitter. I have provided the files so if you want them you will have to download them from 4shared.
That's why I hate 4shared,they force you to (risk privacy) make an account.
It has NOTHING to do with laziness,more about privacy,they even bait you into thinking you could download files without needing an account,only to prompt so.
They used to be GOOD where you didn't have to do stupid stuff just to download a file.
It's like Dropbox pushing you twice to make an account when downloading a file,and it puts the "no thanks" link too far on the screen (Opera for Android via FireTV) where you have to first manipulate it with doubleclick zoom before bringing up the prompt,but at least you don't HAVE to create an account.
In some cases,a 4shared download can be directly accessible without making an account,but I can't remember how the link text looked.
In the near future,I reccommend 2shared,as I always have a great experience with that site.
retroben said:
That's why I hate 4shared,they force you to (risk privacy) make an account.
It has NOTHING to do with laziness,more about privacy,they even bait you into thinking you could download files without needing an account,only to prompt so.
They used to be GOOD where you didn't have to do stupid stuff just to download a file.
It's like Dropbox pushing you twice to make an account when downloading a file,and it puts the "no thanks" link too far on the screen (Opera for Android via FireTV) where you have to first manipulate it with doubleclick zoom before bringing up the prompt,but at least you don't HAVE to create an account.
In some cases,a 4shared download can be directly accessible without making an account,but I can't remember how the link text looked.
In the near future,I reccommend 2shared,as I always have a great experience with that site.
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Actually 4shared added the account login feature to make their site more secure. Also its just an ad that pops up and 99.9% of sites do similar stuff, cause its how they make money from advertisers. They also added the social network connection feature cause it is way more convenient to most people, and they added it because people asked them to add the feature so that they could connect through Facebook etc. There is very few sites or games that do not have the same exact feature that 4shared has, they are even a lot of sites, apps and games that require you to connect using GMail, Facebook or twitter. You would be hardpressed to find a website, app or game that does not require you to either give your email, Facebook, Twitter etc.Also, there is not one major file sharing site that does not either have a popup or a redirect page. The difference is that most of them have a popup which does not get in the way, while 4shared has a redirect instead of the popup. The popup and redirect do the same exact thing, it shows an ad to usually download something, which is not a big deal at all, cause all you have to do is go back one page and continue downloading what you were there to download before the redirect ad popped up. I get redirect ads all the time even on this very site. If popup and redirect ads kept people from using sites then people would basically have to stop using almost every website on the internet. If giving your email or connecting through Facebook is bad then why use XDA, cause they require you to give an email address or connect through Facebook, Twitter etc.
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All links I posted are working. Google drive may be better for you, but I use 4shared. I do not use anything just because someone else thinks its better. If you wanna downloaad the files either create a free account or just use you Facebook, Twitter etc to login to 4shared. I refuse to upoad my files to anoter site just because someeone is too lazy to create an account or connect through their Facebook etc.
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My mistake, after several retries all three rar files downloaded successfully.Thanks anyway.
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If giving your email or connecting through Facebook is bad then why use XDA, cause they require you to give an email address or connect through Facebook, Twitter etc.
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Because I am actually involved in using XDA for replying,making posts,and other useful things,while 4shared is merely a file sharing site,XDA is a community driven forum of developers,testers,and users alike for Android devices of all kinds.
(though I find XDA's current interface frustrating compared to the old design)
It took me a bit just to find the quote button on your post.
At first,I thought it was the " icon,boy was I wrong!
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Because I am actually involved in using XDA for replying,making posts,and other useful things,while 4shared is merely a file sharing site,XDA is a community driven forum of developers,testers,and users alike for Android devices of all kinds.
(though I find XDA's current interface frustrating compared to the old design)
It took me a bit just to find the quote button on your post.
At first,I thought it was the " icon,boy was I wrong!
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4shared is not just a file sharing site. Its also a place to store media or whatever else you want to store. 4shared does not require any information that any other site doesn't ask for, So I am not sure how you can say they invade your privacy. Every site you use will require you to login to use the functions of that site. 4shared is also used on devices of all kinds, not just android. There is a 4shared app for several different OS platforms. 4shared is a legit site and is not sketchy like most other file storage sites that are basicaly just a place to downlad free movies. 4shared is not rapidshare or one of the other shady sites, and thats why they require you to login. If you notice all the highly illegal sites do not require you to login to upload or download, but 4shared does, cause they are not like those sites. 4shared is more geared towards storage than sharing.
4shared 4shared Just pointing that out... XD
I was just saying it is not a forum,so it shouldn't make an extra 100,000+ people become members just because they needed to download something from it.
Of course you should have to be logged in to upload files,but not for simply downloading them.
Sure,they can make a feature to require one to be logged in to download certain files the uploader marks for requiring it though.
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4shared 4shared Just pointing that out... XD
I was just saying it is not a forum,so it shouldn't make an extra 100,000+ people become members just because they needed to download something from it.
Of course you should have to be logged in to upload files,but not for simply downloading them.
Sure,they can make a feature to require one to be logged in to download certain files the uploader marks for requiring it though.
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The thing you are not realizing is that 4shared does not force anyone to do anything, cause the internet does not revolve around 4shared. There are hundreds of other ways to get the same files that are on 4shared. You do not have to use 4shared. Every single file that I have linked to 4shared is widely availale in thousands of other places. A search engine is a beautiful thing and if you do not wanna downlad files from 4shared just use google, bing, yahoo or the search provider of you choice to find it elsewhere. Also comparing a forum and a file storage site is apples to oranges. There are also a lot of people that use storage sites a lot more than they use forum sites. You are making a big deal out of nothing. Every legit site makes you login to use their services.
That escalated quickly...
Download from 4shared or find your own files. Pretty simple and straightforward. Don't think we need ten posts about what one likes over another.
With 5 out now we should be able to install the Android TV Launcher, and with it, the Android TV Play store. I tried to sideload the APK from GAPPS but it failed. Perhaps it has other dependencies. Anyone have any suggestions?
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All links I posted are working. Google drive may be better for you, but I use 4shared. I do not use anything just because someone else thinks its better. If you wanna downloaad the files either create a free account or just use you Facebook, Twitter etc to login to 4shared. I refuse to upoad my files to anoter site just because someeone is too lazy to create an account or connect through their Facebook etc.
Not trying to be rude at all, but I refuse to do anything for someeone who just wants me to make it easier for them to do something. It takes 20 seconds to create a 4shared account and 1 second to connect to 4shared with Facebook or Twitter. I have provided the files so if you want them you will have to download them from 4shared.
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well said OP!
some folks are never grateful for what help we can get on here,
and I for one am very chuffed to have found your posting as I own an unrooted (now unrootable) Fire TV
I'm just now downloading both your rar's and look forward to far better times on my box.
Hello,
First let me say sorry if this is the wrong forum for the question, or if it has been asked. I have searched myself into a headache looking for the answer as well as other information before I update my phone to be able to use Google Play.
My question is this... To install Google Play on the Fire Phone you need .apk files: Account Manager, Framework, Services, Store. Well I've seen quite a few places to get these files online. But where do those sites get them? I'm assuming it can't be downloaded via browser plugin (apk downloader, etc) from the PC Google Play store itself, since it's the app that installs other apps.
I'm paranoid and would like to get those four files myself, so I know its safe - if its possible. Any idea how/where?
The answer is probably staring me in the face, but I don't see it.
My guess is that some phones can capture the files as they download from Google updates and turn them into apk form. But I'm not sure... If there is a way to get them myself I'd like to know - if not, what is the safest place to get them?
Thanks!
gG
Well getting here would be a good start. If not like you said in your post go to Google Play store and use the APK plug in or one of the Web sites that do the same.
Sent from my SD4930UR using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Found another thread the other day and someone there was able to help me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-phone/general/fire-phone-how-to-install-google-play-t2977237
Just wanted to say again.
If you want to get the .APK files to install the Google Play store 100% safe ask a buddy to use ES File Manager to back them up for you. Just go into system files and find them, and select backup. Or if you are like me and have an old android phone, back them up yourself - worked like a charm - no issues.
Thanks again.
I was just seeing if someone can get me the apk for the beachbody on Demand app. I am trying to see if it would work on the shield. I have sideloaded chrome and the Amazon app store, but it won't seem to let me download this app. I realize this may not work at all, but I thought it is worth a try. Otherwise I am going to buy a roku stick just for this one app.
Can anyone help? I am looking for the same thing to try and load on my Android TV
You have to use adb
I just did this and haven't fully tested but seems to work. You have to use adb to pull the apk from a fire stick then sideload it. Then you have to load the amazon app store and sign in to use it.
Though it never seems to get mentioned, the fire TV uses the Amazon App Store for an app drawer as well as in-app purchases. I was prompted to update mine so I searched for, found, and installed one only to find that the version I installed was for non-fire device tablets only. Now I have to launch all my apps through the settings menu. How can I extract the fire version's APK, and where from?
:The answer to this disaster was for me to open ES File Explorer and from the home screen to go in to apps from the "App" icon. At this point you want to navigate to the App Store icon that represents the user version that was installed on top of the System version. Here it will give you the option of uninstalling, which actually only uninstalls the user update, the pop-up will confirm the detail of this action. This is the easiest way to revert. For me it was the only way since the 3nd user apk I installed over the first 2 prevented me from installing any other version or even going back to the other versions I previously installed all because there has been no access to the Fire OS version of the App Store on any site or archive.
Until now...
Presenting the Amazon FireOS Apk Below
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxBTuEYnt3qeOURfbWdpYVBqLTQ
I spent over 30hrs scavenging the internet through forums, archives, I even called Amazon. They were clueless. This is the only link to it that can be found. I requested on several threads and sent private messages to many of you, where only 1 would even consider to give so much as an "I have no idea what you're talking about" response. Therefore much credit goes to sconnyuk, who was that only person, but that was not his response. He was trying to retrieve it but my new fire device came in the mail before he got a chance to finish. I used my file browser to go into system/priv-app/com.amazon.venezia/ and the copy that original apk, paste it to the download folder and use the application Apps2Fire to send it from one fire device to the other. The problem then was, from the beginning, me being prompted from within an app store game(crossy road by name) that my version of the app store was not the latest, and was out of date. I tried to use the link the game provided but the device refuses to open external links. So I googled it , found the OEM website and downloaded and installed the non-fire version of the app store, and there is no button in the app manager that lets you uninstall updates to system apps like there is on Android phones and tablets. So me, picking and poking, finding other App store versions and trying them out, went from not able to play certain games but now can't even try any other version, the installer would fail faithfully.
I was no longer able to open apps from the launcher, I had to go the app manager every time. My Games refused to open, giving me the "internal error" message. Longpressing the home button and selecting apps was useless. The apps category and the "your apps & games" category from the launcher was pitch black and unacceptable, I mean unaccessible. My kids dropped out of school and started a rap group, my best friend became the first man drafted to the WNBA.. my life was bottomless pit of despair. Now, howevr, my system is back to normal, I got an extra fire device, my kids still rapping but they back in school, and my best friend is still in the WNBA but he's just the mascot now. My life is... weird!
Unable to download can you re upload here