Can someone tell me how much RAM is available to run user apps in the 2GB version?
(referring to official stock non rooted)
kalda01 said:
Can someone tell me how much RAM is available to run user apps in the 2GB version?
(referring to official stock non rooted)
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Roughly 600-700
The amount stated is when using stock launcher ?
Is the 2GB version sufficient for average day to day use ? (no gaming or heavy storage consuming apps)
Is there any truth in the rumor I've heard that G3 with 32GB has more issues than the 16GB version ?
Don't get the 2GB G3
rayiskon said:
Don't get the 2GB G3
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Why not? I have the 2GB and is working just fine.
How much free RAM you think you will get with the 3GB? I bet you may be surprised...
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kornolio80 said:
Why not? I have the 2GB and is working just fine.
How much free RAM you think you will get with the 3GB? I bet you may be surprised...
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Using Nova Launcher with a few apps open in the background (Facebook, Chrome, etc) I have about 900MB free, when closed I usually hover on 1.2-1.4GB free. I have a program to clear my RAM every half hour, so it doesn't much matter the amount of RAM I have. But yeah. that's how much I have free, I'd presume you'd have around the same using the stock launcher.
kornolio80 said:
Why not? I have the 2GB and is working just fine.
How much free RAM you think you will get with the 3GB? I bet you may be surprised...
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So can you please provide the amount of free RAM you have when the phone is just turned on ? Are you using stock launcher or other ?
kalda01 said:
So can you please provide the amount of free RAM you have when the phone is just turned on ? Are you using stock launcher or other ?
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Sure... I get around 900mb free RAM and I'm using Nova Launcher with latest Cloudy ROM (which is awesome by the way)
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kornolio80 said:
Sure... I get around 900mb free RAM and I'm using Nova Launcher with latest Cloudy ROM (which is awesome by the way)
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Sorry to jump in but I have a 2GB and am running CyanogenMod 12, stock CyanogenMod kernel, have 38 apps installed, have no RAM Manager app and have, running 3 or 4 apps and Nova also, circa 850 MB spare!
I am super happy with its performance and sometimes I think why would I need a 3GB one when this one performs so well.
Mind you that I am no gamer and perhaps if I was I would then consider it but that is not the case with this users pretensions.
Personally, going back to the OP's question, mate if you are no gamer the 2GB is more than enough.
What do you want to do?
Walk around the mall with 1.5GB of free RAM inside your pocket? ?
Enjoy!
Last two responders say there is plenty of spare RAM but both not using stock ROM. I am not planning to change ROMs so would like to know the free RAM amount with stock.
kalda01 said:
Last two responders say there is plenty of spare RAM but both not using stock ROM. I am not planning to change ROMs so would like to know the free RAM amount with stock.
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Exactly.
When i wrote my first post i was not talking about any additional tweaks, custom ROMs/Kernels , i was talking about the "out of the box" experience. LG's skin is heavy (as are most OEM skins). You might be able to multitask between 2-3 apps (without reloading).
If you decide to flash an AOSP ROM, say goodbye to camera quality, and welcome to various bugs and instabilities here and there.
Furthermore, Lollipop is memory hungry, and "system apps" fill up to 1GB in a few days of uptime (it happens on many phones, i used to have this issue on my nexus 5 too).
I own a 3GB/32GB G3, after a reboot, free RAM is somewhere at 1.7/1.8GB , after 2 days it's down to 1GB, and system apps are up by that amount. According to a leaked changelog, The next Lollipop update (due late Feb.) should include "better RAM management". Will it help and solve this issue, no one knows, it's only a leak for now and nothing is confirmed until it officially releases.
Would it help to root the stock rom and disable unwanted bloatware apps to reclaim some RAM amount ?
kalda01 said:
Would it help to root the stock rom and disable unwanted bloatware apps to reclaim some RAM amount ?
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it would help. Also kicking Google's apps from /system to /data (install from playstore) and greenify some of them should help.
but do you really want to invest in a device where you need all that work done. Also, keep in mind that there is no root method for Lollipop on G3, you have to downgrade to kitkat then flash a custom Lollipop ROM.
No, I'm really not into tweaking the phone and just want stable performance out of the box.
Is the 5.0 stock ROM stable and has no issues at all ?
kalda01 said:
No, I'm really not into tweaking the phone and just want stable performance out of the box.
Is the 5.0 stock ROM stable and has no issues at all ?
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Go for the 3GB version, don't settle for less....
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No, I'm really not into tweaking the phone and just want stable performance out of the box.
Is the 5.0 stock ROM stable and has no issues at all ?
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From my experience with my device stock 5.0 is stable and i haven't had any major problems with it. Would like if the RAM management was a bit better though. Battery life is also great.
On a side note, there is no OS that has no issues at all.
I am aware that most stock roms are not perfect, but read many posts where people were saying the G3 is less stable than G2.
That is why I am being careful.
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Last two responders say there is plenty of spare RAM but both not using stock ROM. I am not planning to change ROMs so would like to know the free RAM amount with stock.
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Doubt it, stock rom is full of bloatware, you're looking at a few hundred mb's free
Is all the bloatware active and running in the background all the time ?
It's the same question like:
which is better: 1 camel or 2 camels ?
Of course, it is better to have 2 camels , they just eat more ...
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Hi Guys!
I have a quick question. I just flashed the CM11 and was wondering what free space I should have left? I read that Kit Kat is supposed to run well on devices with less ram but it seems like it takes up more then normal. Should I be worried?
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Hi Guys!
I have a quick question. I just flashed the CM11 and was wondering what free space I should have left? I read that Kit Kat is supposed to run well on devices with less ram but it seems like it takes up more then normal. Should I be worried?
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Can't say how much ram you should have. As apps and system processes are loaded into memory, your free ram will sink big time. But, that's how android is supposed to work. Meaning how much free ram should be available is not a question that can really be answered.
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Is that normal? How much free RAM do you guys have?
doesn't look like it, but mine is the same. I believe it is the lollipop memory leak issue...so as usual we just have to wait it out
Sucks that just as we are finally seeing 3 Gig of RAM we end up in the same situation as when we had 2Gig ?
I have not upgraded to to 2015 Flagship Standard yet but ...
I was hoping to START at the beginning of Boot Up with about
1.7 -2 GIGs of free RAM for Tasking etc.
I think " upgrading" to Lollipop on many Devices could create more problems than it solves - right ?
And the supposed Wifi Calling and VoLTE are not going to work
because they are Carrier Specific Software which must come directly from your Service Provider.
Free RAM is UNUSED/WASTED RAM! Understand? The more software/applications that are pushed into RAM the better because it is available to do whatever it needs to do without having to go and search for it and place into RAM! If and when you need more RAM for something new, say like opening another application...then Android will move out of RAM whatever is not being used and replace it with the new software. If your phone had 10GB of RAM it would still look nearly full. This is a GOOD thing. It's all still available for use when needed. Remember that RAM is always the fastest part of your phone. Of course the more RAM you have the more applications you can have open at any one time without any lag/stutter. But for now 3GB of RAM is quite good for a cell phone on Android.
XxKINGxX2580 said:
Is that normal? How much free RAM do you guys have?
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Is that a built-in app showing you that?
DanRyb said:
Is that a built-in app showing you that?
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Yes. it's called Smart Manager.
XxKINGxX2580 said:
Yes. it's called Smart Manager.
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I just found it a few hours ago but thanks for replying LOL. This is my first Samsung that I'm using TouchWiz in years haha.
jaseman said:
Free RAM is UNUSED/WASTED RAM! Understand? The more software/applications that are pushed into RAM the better because it is available to do whatever it needs to do without having to go and search for it and place into RAM! If and when you need more RAM for something new, say like opening another application...then Android will move out of RAM whatever is not being used and replace it with the new software. If your phone had 10GB of RAM it would still look nearly full. This is a GOOD thing. It's all still available for use when needed. Remember that RAM is always the fastest part of your phone. Of course the more RAM you have the more applications you can have open at any one time without any lag/stutter. But for now 3GB of RAM is quite good for a cell phone on Android.
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This right here, folks.
jaseman said:
Free RAM is UNUSED/WASTED RAM! Understand? The more software/applications that are pushed into RAM the better because it is available to do whatever it needs to do without having to go and search for it and place into RAM! If and when you need more RAM for something new, say like opening another application...then Android will move out of RAM whatever is not being used and replace it with the new software. If your phone had 10GB of RAM it would still look nearly full. This is a GOOD thing. It's all still available for use when needed. Remember that RAM is always the fastest part of your phone. Of course the more RAM you have the more applications you can have open at any one time without any lag/stutter. But for now 3GB of RAM is quite good for a cell phone on Android.
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Come on... I have Galaxy S4 now (going for S6 today). The S4 comes with 1.8GB usable memory but when it reaches arount 1.5 GB it starts lagging, and by lagging I mean a lot! The fact is that when the device has less RAM it gets laggy and it works better when it has more free memory.
Anyway the higher memory usage is probably of how Lollipop works - it preloads the entire app in the RAM instead of loading it from the flash. It is meant to speed up loading but it takes more memory and I can argue for the effect.
once there are some custom roms, this "issue" will be addressed.
until then, you just have to deal with it
Hi everyone,
Been using my G4 for just over a week now and have noticed that the free RAM drops significantly after some use (just a few hours), on average I have about 80% RAM used meaning that I have around 550MB free, now I haven't noticed any slow downs/lags but am just curious, how much free RAM do you have and what kind of user are you? Lets gather some facts. I am a relatively light user, probably have less third party apps than the amount of apps preloaded (Google + LG).
Note: I am running the latest version of LG's stock MM, no root.
ShinOrochiX said:
Hi everyone,
Been using my G4 for just over a week now and have noticed that the free RAM drops significantly after some use (just a few hours), on average I have about 80% RAM used meaning that I have around 550MB free, now I haven't noticed any slow downs/lags but am just curious, how much free RAM do you have and what kind of user are you? Lets gather some facts. I am a relatively light user, probably have less third party apps than the amount of apps preloaded (Google + LG).
Note: I am running the latest version of LG's stock MM, no root.
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Android is dicfrent than windowz android manages ram on its own if it runs low itll clear itself to make room for the new i run about the same. All these task killers waste battery now. Its ok leave it be. Ever since kk adroid handles much better
Yes using RAM in modern Linux systems and in Android means that the operating system pre caches things to actually speed up your device.
You had to went away from the idea of having as much free RAM as possible. Having unused RAM is actually a waste of resources isn't it? Why not using that free resources when not needed? Well and the result is a more or less intelligent handling of RAM usage where you will see high RAM usage.
So if you have less free amount of RAM it means all is fine :laugh: :victory:
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I also would like to point that apps like Messenger used around 80mb in my S4 Mini (with 1.5GB) and the same version of the app uses around 150 in this phone. So android is doing its good work using the memory efficiently so you have the best efficiency when switching apps and so.
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I was reading this article which pretty much explained everything RAM related. I used to own the OnePlus X which also had 3GB of RAM and with that I had around 1.5GB free, with the G4 I have less than half that . Then again the OPX pretty much ran on AOSP android with is feature-less.
anytime enough.You run out ram? Your device freezing?
kabirjedi said:
anytime enough.You run out ram? Your device freezing?
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No my device doesn't freeze, I get occasional stutters/lags but these are minor. So it is not really a major issue, I was just curious. It is all about the balance, AOSP=fastest performance but least features, custom UIs=slower performance but much more features, for me the features and UI presentation are most important, I can slightly compromise on performance, AOSP is just plain boring, nothing about the UI appeals to me.
Maybe this can fix multitasking issues. What do you think?
+1 for this. My GF 5X is always on low free ram and stutters a lot. Only if RAM is >900-1GB is smooth.
No. This won't help. O Go is meant for <=1GB RAM devices. It doesn't actually do any good on more ram.
shhnedo said:
No. This won't help. O Go is meant for <=1GB RAM devices. It doesn't actually do any good on more ram.
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How much ram is Oreo and Gapps using on your Nexus 5x? It's not less than a gig of Ram if you're on stock, that's for sure.
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How much ram is Oreo and Gapps using on your Nexus 5x? It's not less than a gig of Ram if you're on stock, that's for sure.
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This is totally irrelevant, but I'll amuse you:
That's running services. What about cached apps? I'll humour you. Top right. That's where the problem lies on the 5x imo. It has to keep ram free, so apps get bumped out of cache to keep about 250mb free at all times for android/Google/assistant - even if you rarely use it.
Previos time I used Redmi Note 4 (Mido). That phone are 3gb varient. That phone in i flashed epicMiui custom rom. That rom are used my ram storage only few 1gb/1.3gb Ram. That rom are my best choose for that issue. All time ram storage 1.4gb are always free. That phone camera are just osame:good:
But,
Now I am used Redmi note 5. There I tested many custom rom. All the custom ROM are most ram storage drained. Like there are free ram storage are only 700mb to 900mb.
So,
I need A miui based rom.
That are i am used daily draivers. That are mostly free my ram 1.4 to 1.5gb. Sugeested me please...
Nb: sorry my bad english.
You don't need that much free RAM. Android is pretty good at managing memory by itself, and 4GB are plenty for a good experience.
Really, flash any ROM that suits your needs
Nazmul.i404 said:
Previos time I used Redmi Note 4 (Mido). That phone are 3gb varient. That phone in i flashed epicMiui custom rom. That rom are used my ram storage only few 1gb/1.3gb Ram. That rom are my best choose for that issue. All time ram storage 1.4gb are always free. That phone camera are just osame:good:
But,
Now I am used Redmi note 5. There I tested many custom rom. All the custom ROM are most ram storage drained. Like there are free ram storage are only 700mb to 900mb.
So,
I need A miui based rom.
That are i am used daily draivers. That are mostly free my ram 1.4 to 1.5gb. Sugeested me please...
Nb: sorry my bad english.
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Why would you need free unused ram?
iuliusdeblobbis said:
You don't need that much free RAM. Android is pretty good at managing memory by itself, and 4GB are plenty for a good experience.
Really, flash any ROM that suits your needs
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But there is a catch. MIUI is very aggressive in killing background apps. At first I through that 3gb of ram is not enough and that's the reason why multitasking is so bad. The phone wasn't keeping even 3 apps in ram. Now when I'm using aosp based ROMs I no longer have such issues.
0dium said:
Why would you need free unused ram?
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Bcz,
Low ram storage make my phone lezy and so slow.
Nazmul.i404 said:
Bcz,
Low ram storage make my phone lezy and so slow.
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Thats not how android works. This is not microsoft windows. Android frees up ram whenever its needed. Miui based roms have more free ram because it has very aggressive background control, but that doesnt mean its good. You cant multitask because it just kills every background app.
Incogn said:
Thats not how android works. This is not microsoft windows. Android frees up ram whenever its needed. Miui based roms have more free ram because it has very aggressive background control, but that doesnt mean its good. You cant multitask because it just kills every background app.
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+1 on this.
MIUI has such an aggressive memory management because killing apps in the background gives an impression of better battery life. This results in less RAM usage, which is great marketing towards people who don't know how Android works :/
iuliusdeblobbis said:
+1 on this.
MIUI has such an aggressive memory management because killing apps in the background gives an impression of better battery life. This results in less RAM usage, which is great marketing towards people who don't know how Android works :/
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But it does have excellent battery life despite it being a bloated and heavy pig.
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But it does have excellent battery life despite it being a bloated and heavy pig.
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I have same battery performance with Pixel Experience as i did with stock rom or masik. Only difference being, with PE i can actually multitask without constantly getting my apps closed in the background. That, and not having to worry about some notifications arriving late. Apart from these 2 things i actually quite like MIUI unlike most users here.
This is is rom. That are i Fond,
Always free 1.4/1.6 ram...it perfect for daily driver used.
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1pv3WMBJyJmadpTkkSRCvPTjR0RG0Ak-6