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Ok, so I've seen this question asked I don't know how many times in each Rom at the Dev Section and also in the General Forum so I decided to make a quick guide.
- If you're on any ROM or even stock rooted and get prompted to update to the new update you can do a couple things.
1.- If you don't already have Titanium Back up, Download it from the market and FREEZE Device Management. Once you freeze it just reboot and the update will go away. I was going to recommend Bloat Freezer, but I couldn't find it on the Market, not sure what's going on with that.
This is the easiest step * ** *
Titanium Backup - https://market.android.com/search?q=titanium+back+up&c=apps
*An alternative would be using Root Explorer -
Under System/ App/ wssyncmldm.apk Just delete.
Root Explorer - https://market.android.com/search?q=root+explorer&c=apps
2.- If you must have the update for some reason and don't want to just flash a ROM that's already 2.3.6, then it's best to go back to stock. UPDATE will not work unless you have STOCK RECOVERY on your phone.
To go back to stock refer to this Guide made by Jangst123.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321811
3.- You can also try to flash your nandroid backup and then Odin the stock recovery. You also might need the stock kernel if you had a custom one installed, in this case flash Stock kernel first before your nandroid.
Stock Kernel - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2510030/kernel-stock.zip
4.- If you're only rooted with the stock Rom you can try to update without doing anything, but you will lose Root. There has been reports that it has worked for some, but not for others.
Be Careful with what you decide to do!!
== The update you are getting is NOT ICS, it is an update to 2.3.6 and for the Wifi Calling App. == In order for Wifi calling to work you MUST have the New Sim card that came with the phone. If you don't have one go to your T-mobile store and get one. =
*** If you rather just get the Baseband/Modem by itself then you can get it from here http://rootzwiki.com/topic/11883-odin-tmo-sgsii-modem-collection-eam-kang12142011/
Thanks to Team Kang.
Hope this HELPS, now if people only used the SEARCH engine. I think I'm going to make a guide on how to use it, LOL.
*I am not responsible if you damage your expensive phone in any way. Use this guide at your own risk.*
Or....... just use free es file explorer on market ( don't forget to enable root under its settings ) and backup/delete both wssync apk's under /system/app. Then reboot
Takes less than 2 minutes and can be done without odin, firmware flashing, ect
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Nice. Thank you. Worked using root explorer and deleting. I am using barbaridier 3.5 weird it made.me update....
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Thanks for the info, i switched different rom's due to the update message stuck in the notification bar
Bloat Freezer is definitely not an app to use for freezing the Device management app anymore. An earlier forum post pointed out that it's been pulled from the market, and as this article cites, with good reason. Alternatives suggested are SystemCleanup, NoBloat, and as the OP pointed out, Titanium Backup.
Good Luck..
thank you for the thread
Hi, i went back to stock everything, and i haven't had a prompt for the update yet. I updated previously, is that the reason why?
= The update you are getting is NOT ICS, it is an update to 2.3.6 and for the Wifi Calling App. == In order for Wifi calling to work you MUST have the New Sim card that came with the phone. If you don't have one go to your T-mobile store and get one. =
Ok what if the next update is ICS and i'm rooted and I want to update? Will it mess anything up if It tries to update?
Thanks, a simple guide with an easy solution.
If you are Low on cash and dont want to pay for titanium backup ... Ultimate Backup Does the job for free
Hello
Just dropping by to say hello and that this thread has been featured on the XDA Portal
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...ate-notifications-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s-ii/
If there were only a version of this that worked on the Epic 4g Touch (Sprint version of SGS II), we're having a problem with that right now.
PoorCollegeGuy said:
Hello
Just dropping by to say hello and that this thread has been featured on the XDA Portal
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...ate-notifications-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s-ii/
If there were only a version of this that worked on the Epic 4g Touch (Sprint version of SGS II), we're having a problem with that right now.
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I noticed, thanks!
Powered by the SGSII....
Titanium is free, and does everything you will need. The donate version is very inexpensive too.
Titanium backup is great! And the pro version that does all the restoring in one go!
Which one do you use?
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Bloat Freezer is definitely not an app to use for freezing the Device management app anymore. An earlier forum post pointed out that it's been pulled from the market, and as this article cites, with good reason. Alternatives suggested are SystemCleanup, NoBloat, and as the OP pointed out, Titanium Backup.
Good Luck..
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jasnn,
Thank you for the heads up. I read that article and seems like this Trey guy is a bit shady. Which one do you use jasnn? I plan on buy Titanium backup in the near future before I start loading custom roms, but I am looking to leave the stock rom for now and just get rid most the t-mobile preinstalled stuff. In all fairness I was pretty impressed with the dnla app allshare and also Kies Air but there was just sooo much preloaded junk.
Ken
thank you so much! it helped alot!
thanks for this
Thank You
Thank you - I am a noob - not only am I learning how to's of T989 but how to let contributors know - again thanks
? i have the sprint GS2 and I tried lookin up the device management in TB like you said top freeze the ota update push but i didnt see it. I am on 2.3.6 stock rooted Gengerbread Eko2 : and all i have in that area is
DRM content 2.3.6
DRM content launcher 1.0
DRM Protected Content Storage 2.3.6
could anyone of these be what i need to freeze?
Also:
In Es file Explorer i did see a file close to what you said to look for to delete but it was WSSYNCMLNPS.APK instead. is this the one for my fone?
thanks for your help - hate the ota push been trying to figure out how to get rid of it cause i dont want to update.
let me know
StifflerServices said:
? i have the sprint GS2 and I tried lookin up the device management in TB like you said top freeze the ota update push but i didnt see it. I am on 2.3.6 stock rooted Gengerbread Eko2 : and all i have in that area is
DRM content 2.3.6
DRM content launcher 1.0
DRM Protected Content Storage 2.3.6
could anyone of these be what i need to freeze?
Also:
In Es file Explorer i did see a file close to what you said to look for to delete but it was WSSYNCMLNPS.APK instead. is this the one for my fone?
thanks for your help - hate the ota push been trying to figure out how to get rid of it cause i dont want to update.
let me know
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Do you have Download Manager 2.3.6?
If so try that one.
Are you already on 2.3.6? Because I noticed Device Management is no longer there once I updated to 2.3.6.
But you're on Sprint, so not exactly sure what it's called.
Powered by the SGSII....
I have a rooted s4 from Samsung. But I have a nagging feeling that rooting this with an update to Android L, I will miss something.
sycotik said:
I have a rooted s4 from Samsung. But I have a nagging feeling that rooting this with an update to Android L, I will miss something.
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Nope, no reason to root. Stay where you are and don't move.
sycotik said:
I have a rooted s4 from Samsung. But I have a nagging feeling that rooting this with an update to Android L, I will miss something.
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What's my motivation?
Recovery, roms, kernels, Titanium Backup.
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1. Write to SD card fix
2. Debloat/freeze unnecessary apps (saves space, ram, and battery)
3. Xposed Framework
a. Boot Manager
b. Wanam Xposed (fairly decent customization)
c. Youtube ad-away
d. Pandora patcher (awesome features)
e. Minminlock
f. Greenify
4. Custom recovery (scheduled backups)
Android L might take a while until officially released for Touchwiz devices. If this devs keep doing the great job that they are doing, a custom rom running a variant of Android L might show up faster.
I was not inclined to root at first and void my warranty, but I love this tablet and these additional features are must haves for me. Do whatever is best for your needs in the device.
itsregie said:
1. Write to SD card fix
2. Debloat/freeze unnecessary apps (saves space, ram, and battery)
3. Xposed Framework
a. Boot Manager
b. Wanam Xposed (fairly decent customization)
c. Youtube ad-away
d. Pandora patcher (awesome features)
e. Minminlock
f. Greenify
4. Custom recovery (scheduled backups)
Android L might take a while until officially released for Touchwiz devices. If this devs keep doing the great job that they are doing, a custom rom running a variant of Android L might show up faster.
I was not inclined to root at first and void my warranty, but I love this tablet and these additional features are must haves for me. Do whatever is best for your needs in the device.
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For all the newbs out there can you (explain in detail) the benefits of all those features, for newly rooted users. Thanks [emoji106]
Sure...
1. Write to SD card fix => I download a fair amount from torrent sites, I can now save files directly to SD card instead of taking another step to copy and move them over then delete them from internal storage. I believe as stock only certain apps can write to SD card, now any app can potentially do so. Like I prefer ES File Manager as my default file manager as opposed to the Samsung My Files app. It was crippled without this fix.
2. Debloat/freeze unnecessary apps (saves space, ram, and battery) => Delete bloatware apps that you don't use which you can't do without rooting. NYTimes/Papergarden/Milk...I don't use them, so don't take up space on my limited storage.
3. Xposed Framework
a. Boot Manager => Choose which files you want or don't want at start up to improve boot time.
b. Wanam Xposed (fairly decent customization) => From status bar tweaks (colors/icons/clock), 4 way reboot options, auto expand volume panel, these little tweaks here and there that you can't get from stock make using this tablet so much better.
c. Youtube ad-away => As a heavy youtube user....NO MORE ADS!
d. Pandora patcher (awesome features) => Unlimited skips and even downloading thumbed up songs!
e. Minminlock => Remove ads from certain apps.
f. Greenify => See which apps are eating your battery and freeze those apps.
4. Custom recovery (scheduled backups) => Up to date backups in case something goes wrong. I recently had some weird bug with the Play Store where I couldn't update any apps and there was no fix I could find online. Simple flash of latest backup got me running 100% with minimal effort.
These are just my personal uses for rooting my device. Everyone has their own preferences, let me know if this helps.
itsregie said:
Sure...
1. Write to SD card fix => I download a fair amount from torrent sites, I can now save files directly to SD card instead of taking another step to copy and move them over then delete them from internal storage. I believe as stock only certain apps can write to SD card, now any app can potentially do so. Like I prefer ES File Manager as my default file manager as opposed to the Samsung My Files app. It was crippled without this fix.
2. Debloat/freeze unnecessary apps (saves space, ram, and battery) => Delete bloatware apps that you don't use which you can't do without rooting. NYTimes/Papergarden/Milk...I don't use them, so don't take up space on my limited storage.
3. Xposed Framework
a. Boot Manager => Choose which files you want or don't want at start up to improve boot time.
b. Wanam Xposed (fairly decent customization) => From status bar tweaks (colors/icons/clock), 4 way reboot options, auto expand volume panel, these little tweaks here and there that you can't get from stock make using this tablet so much better.
c. Youtube ad-away => As a heavy youtube user....NO MORE ADS!
d. Pandora patcher (awesome features) => Unlimited skips and even downloading thumbed up songs!
e. Minminlock => Remove ads from certain apps.
f. Greenify => See which apps are eating your battery and freeze those apps.
4. Custom recovery (scheduled backups) => Up to date backups in case something goes wrong. I recently had some weird bug with the Play Store where I couldn't update any apps and there was no fix I could find online. Simple flash of latest backup got me running 100% with minimal effort.
These are just my personal uses for rooting my device. Everyone has their own preferences, let me know if this helps.
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Perfect summary. Not much to add!
So what's the risk then?
I'm loving the Tab S, but not being able to use Xposed and TiBU is driving me mental.
Should I root it? So far as I understand, it'll trip Knox, which means that if my tab breaks in some way, it won't be covered by the warranty anymore - is this correct?
Should I do it anyway, or maybe wait a while longer to see if someone comes up with a way to root without tripping Knox, ot to undo the Know trip counter?
Update when rooted?
Hi guys/gals,
just got this tablet (t700). If I do root, will I be able to get the next update OTA or using kies? I can appreciate this might be a difficult question as the next update obviously hasn't come out.
Thanks in advance.
you can still get OTAs if you use triangle away...if it works on the Tab S that is.
I've had Android devices for years and I still don't understand why people still want to get OTAs while rooted, that same OTA will be out within a day or two on the forums, usually with knox removed and root injected. So it just makes it easier on you if you forget all about OTAs.
henrypootel said:
So what's the risk then?
I'm loving the Tab S, but not being able to use Xposed and TiBU is driving me mental.
Should I root it? So far as I understand, it'll trip Knox, which means that if my tab breaks in some way, it won't be covered by the warranty anymore - is this correct?
Should I do it anyway, or maybe wait a while longer to see if someone comes up with a way to root without tripping Knox, ot to undo the Know trip counter?
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Loss of warranty of a $500 plus device is a good enough reason for me not to do it. Those few benefits do not outweigh the potential downside.
itsregie said:
1. Write to SD card fix
2. Debloat/freeze unnecessary apps (saves space, ram, and battery)
3. Xposed Framework
a. Boot Manager
b. Wanam Xposed (fairly decent customization)
c. Youtube ad-away
d. Pandora patcher (awesome features)
e. Minminlock
f. Greenify
4. Custom recovery (scheduled backups)
Android L might take a while until officially released for Touchwiz devices. If this devs keep doing the great job that they are doing, a custom rom running a variant of Android L might show up faster.
I was not inclined to root at first and void my warranty, but I love this tablet and these additional features are must haves for me. Do whatever is best for your needs in the device.
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How were you able to get Pandora Patcher to run properly on the Tab S? I rooted my tablet for this and Titanium Backup. Pandora Patcher doesn't want to work on my tablet. I even updated to the latest PP (v3.5) and Pandora (v5.5) but it still doesn't work.
brando56894 said:
you can still get OTAs if you use triangle away...if it works on the Tab S that is.
I've had Android devices for years and I still don't understand why people still want to get OTAs while rooted, that same OTA will be out within a day or two on the forums, usually with knox removed and root injected. So it just makes it easier on you if you forget all about OTAs.
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^ this^ all day long.....except I don't think triangle away works for this tab. The statement about ota's is dead on though
brando56894 said:
I've had Android devices for years and I still don't understand why people still want to get OTAs while rooted, that same OTA will be out within a day or two on the forums, usually with knox removed and root injected. So it just makes it easier on you if you forget all about OTAs.
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^ this^ all day long
brando56894 said:
I've had Android devices for years and I still don't understand why people still want to get OTAs while rooted, that same OTA will be out within a day or two on the forums, usually with knox removed and root injected. So it just makes it easier on you if you forget all about OTAs.
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^this^ all day long
brando56894 said:
I've had Android devices for years and I still don't understand why people still want to get OTAs while rooted, that same OTA will be out within a day or two on the forums, usually with knox removed and root injected. So it just makes it easier on you if you forget all about OTAs.
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Could not agree more
I'm kinda new at this. I know about being able to use backups with TWRP and I know about MW Apps Manager but that's about it. Please make suggestions of how I can improve the experience of using the Note 4.
doctor-cool said:
I'm kinda new at this. I know about being able to use backups with TWRP and I know about MW Apps Manager but that's about it. Please make suggestions of how I can improve the experience of using the Note 4.
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I'm going to assume that you have already installed the TWRP custom recovery. You probably already know that you have to do that before you can obtain root. Aside from being able to flash custom ROMs, none available right now, there are a number of apps that you can install that do a number of things that you cannot do without root. I'll list a few that I use and what they do but the list is not all encompassing:
--Titanium Backup (root)--a great tool for freezing unwanted apps, backing up apps/data etc
--Greenify--enables you to set user installed apps to "hibernate" a few minutes after you have finished using them. Significantly improves battery life.
--LagFix--an app, when run, that can eliminate "lag" when/if it occurs on the phone most of the time.
--SD Maid--a great file manager app that enables you to control which apps start at power on, enables the user to really clean out cache, duplicate files, orphaned files and compact databases. Saves memory resources and keeps your phone running smooth and clean.
--adaway--as the name implies, keeps those pesky little ads from showing up in apps.
--exposed--a favorite of many users. Enables you to customize a number of settings, notifications etc.
That's the apps I use that can only be run with root. I'm sure some other users will chime in here an provide some other things that root offers.
Thanks , I got root last night
First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?
doctor-cool said:
First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?
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You can run anything you want, it's not going to hurt root. Root is really only a door, or access, to settings/system files that you wouldn't normally have. Any app that you can run without root can be run safely with root. The opposite is not true. There are a number of apps that cannot be run without root. A good way to find most of the apps that require root is to go to the Play Store and just search for "root apps". There's a bunch out there that you may want to try.
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doctor-cool said:
First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?
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The only thing you have to be aware of to protect root is taking an OTA update. Now that you have a custom recovery and root the likely hood that you would be able to find and download an OTA is not likely, but if by chance you receive a notice that an OTA is available do not download and install it. If by chance the phone automatically downloads it and tries to install it, the OTA should fail so you'll be alright.
Be careful not to flash or ODIN a retail firmware. That is probably the biggest warning I can offer. Retail firmware, when flashed, will lock your bootloader. You can flash a modem or a kernel or a recovery, but not the entire firmware .tar md5 file.
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doctor-cool said:
First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?
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By the way. Since you are new to root and custom recoveries, the first thing you should do, right now, is do a backup. Power off your phone, go into TWRP recovery (hold down the volume up, home and power buttom all at the same time). Continue to hold them down until you see the TWRP splash screen, then you can let them go. From the on screen menu select backup. Choose which file you want backed up. I recommend you do boot, system, data, modem, EFS and recovery as a minimum. After the backup is complete return to the main menu and select reboot. Do it right now
wifi hotspot
I have already paid for FoxFi and it works great even without root.
But now, how do I get the free wifi hotspot with root What are the advantages of using it?
doctor-cool said:
I have already paid for FoxFi and it works great even without root.
But now, how do I get the free wifi hotspot with root What are the advantages of using it?
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I'm not sure, I don't use it. But, if I remember correctly I think you go into settings>more networks>and turn on mobile hotspot. But again, I don't use it so I'm not sure. Have you done your backup yet? It is the only safety net you will have until a developer releases a ROM we can flash. Don't look for Samsung to release any firmware for the Developer Edition...it ain't going to happen. Your backup and TWRP are the ONLY safety net you have right now. I can't emphasize that enough.
jpcalhoun said:
I'm not sure, I don't use it. But, if I remember correctly I think you go into settings>more networks>and turn on mobile hotspot. But again, I don't use it so I'm not sure. Have you done your backup yet? It is the only safety net you will have until a developer releases a ROM we can flash. Don't look for Samsung to release any firmware for the Developer Edition...it ain't going to happen. Your backup and TWRP are the ONLY safety net you have right now. I can't emphasize that enough.
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Thanks ,Yes I did the backups last night before and after root default and complete. I even tested Restoring a backup before I rooted. I hope I got it
doctor-cool said:
Thanks ,Yes I did the backups last night before and after root default and complete. I even tested Restoring a backup before I rooted. I hope I got it
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Outstanding. Didn't want to "harp" on the backup thing, but I've seen so many users root, TWRP and then do something to brick their phone and they didn't have a backup. They were screwed.
Automatic Back Up?
jpcalhoun said:
Outstanding. Didn't want to "harp" on the backup thing, but I've seen so many users root, TWRP and then do something to brick their phone and they didn't have a backup. They were screwed.
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We should probably do a backup on a schedule. Someone could make an app that does a back up automatically on a schedule. I'm going to put Back Up Note 4 on my calender then back it up
doctor-cool said:
We should probably do a backup on a schedule. Someone could make an app that does a back up automatically on a schedule. I'm going to put Back Up Note 4 on my calender then back it up
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It's diffidently a good idea to have a recent backup and the original backup of your stock ROM. The only problem with a lot of backups is keeping straight what backup is what and the amount of space they consume. Memory is cheap I know, but backups can eat up storage real fast, LOL.
Yes. Agree with space but every backup I do, I also have my TWRP folder sync'd to my Dropbox account. So what ever changes are made go their. I also save them on the laptop as well as a thumb drive. Been burned once on my note 3. Now, is there the stock md5 file for the developers edition like on the note 3's?
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GreenGoblin227 said:
Yes. Agree with space but every backup I do, I also have my TWRP folder sync'd to my Dropbox account. So what ever changes are made go their. I also save them on the laptop as well as a thumb drive. Been burned once on my note 3. Now, is there the stock md5 file for the developers edition like on the note 3's?
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No there is not a stock md5 for the DE and there most likely will not be. In the past Samsung has never released a firmware package for their DE phones, not that I have ever seen anyway. What your phone came with is what you got. NO OTAs and no updates of any kind in the future...that's if Samsung behaves like they have in the past. That's why making a good back up of your stock (no root) when you first get recovery is so important. And, making a backup after root of course.
Do you mind me asking how you sync..............
GreenGoblin227 said:
Yes. Agree with space but every backup I do, I also have my TWRP folder sync'd to my Dropbox account. So what ever changes are made go their. I also save them on the laptop as well as a thumb drive. Been burned once on my note 3. Now, is there the stock md5 file for the developers edition like on the note 3's?
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your TWRP folder to your Dropbox account.. Did you transfer the folder to your computer first or can you sync the folder on your phone to DropBox directly ?
I use dropsync select the folder and it just does it automatically.
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jpcalhoun said:
I'm going to assume that you have already installed the TWRP custom recovery. You probably already know that you have to do that before you can obtain root. Aside from being able to flash custom ROMs, none available right now, there are a number of apps that you can install that do a number of things that you cannot do without root. I'll list a few that I use and what they do but the list is not all encompassing:
--Titanium Backup (root)--a great tool for freezing unwanted apps, backing up apps/data etc
--Greenify--enables you to set user installed apps to "hibernate" a few minutes after you have finished using them. Significantly improves battery life.
--LagFix--an app, when run, that can eliminate "lag" when/if it occurs on the phone most of the time.
--SD Maid--a great file manager app that enables you to control which apps start at power on, enables the user to really clean out cache, duplicate files, orphaned files and compact databases. Saves memory resources and keeps your phone running smooth and clean.
--adaway--as the name implies, keeps those pesky little ads from showing up in apps.
--exposed--a favorite of many users. Enables you to customize a number of settings, notifications etc.
That's the apps I use that can only be run with root. I'm sure some other users will chime in here an provide some other things that root offers.
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I'm assuming that the Greenify is the one with the leaf?
Is LagFix the purchase version? Is it an app by itself, or does it require exposed?
Do you use the SD Maid Pro Version?
Does the Adaway require exposed as well?
Thanks so much in advance.
Figured I would start here in my device thread before trying the SuperSU thread.
Anybody have issues with SuperSU since the last few updates ago?
SuperSU does not even open. Root-dependent apps do not open. Titanium sits there at the initial screen "asking for root rights" until I kill the app. AdAway does not open... just goes right to a black screen until I kill the app. AdAway seems to work though, as my web surfing does not have ads.
I've also tried manually going in and applying the latest update via (philz) recovery.
Would I be safe to roll back to an older version of SuperSU?
Mods... if you're going to gun the thread, please at least point me in the right direction as I did search, but did not find anything related to recent issues on the Note 2 for SuperSU.
TIA for help and suggestions.
Oh yeah its still sitting in the play store. I lost root the last couple updates ago. I had to re flash my rom and start over.
ceabbott2 said:
Oh yeah its still sitting in the play store. I lost root the last couple updates ago. I had to re flash my rom and start over.
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As part of my search, I did see Chainfire mention in his "fix" thread that some apps like wanam can cause issues. Of course, I have xsposed installed, so that could be the issue.
Do you (or did you) also have xsposed installed as well?
I have tried older versions of SU, uninstalling via philz then redownloading from Play - which now tells me the binaries are out of date and can't be done by SU, and I need to re-root.
Think I might try one of the other SuperUser apps "just to see how it works", or if it does.
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As part of my search, I did see Chainfire mention in his "fix" thread that some apps like wanam can cause issues. Of course, I have xsposed installed, so that could be the issue.
Do you (or did you) also have xsposed installed as well?
I have tried older versions of SU, uninstalling via philz then redownloading from Play - which now tells me the binaries are out of date and can't be done by SU, and I need to re-root.
Think I might try one of the other SuperUser apps "just to see how it works", or if it does.
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For me, I just reflashed the ROM I was running at the time and that resolved it. Of course seeing that the update was " fixed" I attempted it and lost root again. I then did the same as before, wiped and relashed. I didn't do clean installs either time. Just wiped caches and reflashed. That sucks if you have to re-root. I mean, it's easy and all but it shouldn't have to be done.
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Before attempting any drastic measures (i.e., full wipe and reinstallation of the ROM), try this. This trick usually works for me.
Open your Application Manager, and locate your SuperSU application. Turn it off (i.e., click the "Turn Off" button). It may prompt you that updates are about to be uninstalled; that's ok. Download "BETA-SuperSU-v2.25.zip" and verify the MD5. Reboot into recovery and flash this file. Reboot and re-enable the SuperSU application from the Application Manager (it will be easy to find this time - scroll all the way over to the right, under "Turned Off"). Open SuperSU and it should let you reinstall the binaries.
Recently I've inexplicably lost root a number of times, and the above method has fixed it for me every time.
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Before attempting any drastic measures (i.e., full wipe and reinstallation of the ROM), try this. This trick usually works for me.
Open your Application Manager, and locate your SuperSU application. Turn it off (i.e., click the "Turn Off" button). It may prompt you that updates are about to be uninstalled; that's ok. Download "BETA-SuperSU-v2.25.zip" and verify the MD5. Reboot into recovery and flash this file. Reboot and re-enable the SuperSU application from the Application Manager (it will be easy to find this time - scroll all the way over to the right, under "Turned Off"). Open SuperSU and it should let you reinstall the binaries.
Recently I've inexplicably lost root a number of times, and the above method has fixed it for me every time.
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Thanks for the try. Did not work though.
Looks like I just need to re-flash the ROM.
My problem was odd. Before I discovered the aforementioned trick, I'd re-root with Chainfire or Kingo. I'd reboot, and my device would be rooted. But those two methods have an additional payload - they flash the stock recovery. So I'd ODIN the Philz Touch recovery back to the device, reboot, and root would be gone. Never figured out what was going on.
Yup. Issues with new version. Only last 2 or three updates.
They seemed to be perfectly fine with cm12 though.
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Thanks for all of the input.
After doing a full wipe, and then re-loading Classic Stock 4.4.2, life is good again! Back to running awesome for a few weeks now.
Having said that, I did want to follow-up and ask others what current version of SuperSU you are on. As of right now, I am still on v2.01 (which is what was packaged with the ROM) and have not updated yet. Only other versions of SuperSU I have zips downloaded for are: 2.25 from post above, 2.36, and 2.37.
Any suggestions or confirmations on which newer/more recent versions will not bork my root status? Or which versions to definitely stay away from trying to use?
Thanks, and I appreciate any help and suggestions!
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Thanks for all of the input.
After doing a full wipe, and then re-loading Classic Stock 4.4.2, life is good again! Back to running awesome for a few weeks now.
Having said that, I did want to follow-up and ask others what current version of SuperSU you are on. As of right now, I am still on v2.01 (which is what was packaged with the ROM) and have not updated yet. Only other versions of SuperSU I have zips downloaded for are: 2.25 from post above, 2.36, and 2.37.
Any suggestions or confirmations on which newer/more recent versions will not bork my root status? Or which versions to definitely stay away from trying to use?
Thanks, and I appreciate any help and suggestions!
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The actual issue is not superuser or the updates. The issue is 4.4.2 and the original way we (ROM devs) had to implement superuser.
There are two routes to take to keep from losing root. The easiest for most users is to turn off auto updates and not to update superuser (app or binaries). The second is more difficult for the average user. Do a complete removal of superuser and install the latest.
I suggest the first way for everyone. It is simple and fool proof.
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The actual issue is not superuser or the updates. The issue is 4.4.2 and the original way we (ROM devs) had to implement superuser.
There are two routes to take to keep from losing root. The easiest for most users is to turn off auto updates and not to update superuser (app or binaries). The second is more difficult for the average user. Do a complete removal of superuser and install the latest.
I suggest the first way for everyone. It is simple and fool proof.
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As always, thanks for your response. Your recommendation is what I've been doing, just wanted to follow-up on this and see if there was anything else I needed to consider or change as well.
My main concern was to make sure I was not going to run into any "big" issues (especially security) by staying on current version. Thanks for explaining where the issue really lies on this too. I'm obviously not a dev, however I do want to understand what is exactly going on and responses like yours always provide that type of info. :good: Thank you.
And, FWIW, using "fool proof" to describe a process only makes me more curious (and no, not in that way) about your suggestion. :laugh:
Now I HAVE to find out more about that option... (only after some of the best BBQ in all of the land - Sugarfire BBQ in STL )
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The actual issue is not superuser or the updates. The issue is 4.4.2 and the original way we (ROM devs) had to implement superuser.
There are two routes to take to keep from losing root. The easiest for most users is to turn off auto updates and not to update superuser (app or binaries). The second is more difficult for the average user. Do a complete removal of superuser and install the latest.
I suggest the first way for everyone. It is simple and fool proof.
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How do you disable auto update of binary on SuperSU? I keep seeing it in the notification bar, very annoying.
I just ordered this beautiful tablet. I've never owned a tablet before. I've actually always wanted a laptop, but things are changing. I have an Amazon Kindle Fire HD from many years ago. It's actually worked pretty well for me for ebook reading, limited web browsing and email using. But, the last few months it's really started acting funny and not working right. So I've decided it's time to upgrade. Did a week's worth of research and decided this is my best option. I haven't received it yet, but I'm really excited to dig in and do a lot more than I can with my Kindle.
So that brings me here. I don't remember where, but through my research on which tablet to buy, this website was mentioned as a major resource. To be completely honest, I'm 100% lost. There are things I want to do but I don't even know where to start. I love tinkering and figuring things out, but I need a little push in the right direction.
One of the biggest things I want to be able to do is make a complete low level backup of the entire system to store on my home server should anything happen and I need to restore it.
The other big thing I want to do is remove all the excess junk that comes pre-installed that I'll never use. With such a small area of space available, having half or so used up in unnecessary stuff is just pointless.
I'm sure there are other things I can do and may want to do in the future, but for now, these are the major keys. So... any help? Did I make the right choice? What other features/functions should I be looking at or considering?
Thanks guys! Looking forward to getting a lot of great use out of my new tablet and this site.
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I just ordered this beautiful tablet. I've never owned a tablet before. I've actually always wanted a laptop, but things are changing. I have an Amazon Kindle Fire HD from many years ago. It's actually worked pretty well for me for ebook reading, limited web browsing and email using. But, the last few months it's really started acting funny and not working right. So I've decided it's time to upgrade. Did a week's worth of research and decided this is my best option. I haven't received it yet, but I'm really excited to dig in and do a lot more than I can with my Kindle.
So that brings me here. I don't remember where, but through my research on which tablet to buy, this website was mentioned as a major resource. To be completely honest, I'm 100% lost. There are things I want to do but I don't even know where to start. I love tinkering and figuring things out, but I need a little push in the right direction.
One of the biggest things I want to be able to do is make a complete low level backup of the entire system to store on my home server should anything happen and I need to restore it.
The other big thing I want to do is remove all the excess junk that comes pre-installed that I'll never use. With such a small area of space available, having half or so used up in unnecessary stuff is just pointless.
I'm sure there are other things I can do and may want to do in the future, but for now, these are the major keys. So... any help? Did I make the right choice? What other features/functions should I be looking at or considering?
Thanks guys! Looking forward to getting a lot of great use out of my new tablet and this site.
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Root with chain fire root, flash via Odin.
This will allow you to have root access allowing you to remove unwanted app amongst other things
Flash via Odin: TWRP Recovery for Chagallwifi (assuming it's a Samsung T800)
This will allow you to create a back up.
I believe the order of this can be inverted. IE. Flash recovery with Odin and then have TWRP flash the CFAutoroot zip and the SuperSU (the app that will "manage" your root)
Install Titanium Back up and freeze/uninstall unwanted apps. There are lists of removable apps on the forums. I prefer to freeze but it's up to you.
!!!Make a backup prior to this step!!!
Will update post when I am home with more suggestion's.
Thanks, that's somewhat helpful. At least it give me the names of programs. I have no idea what I'm doing though. Can you give me a link to a step-by-step guide, or at least explain what the different things are and what they do? Sorry for being such a noob with this.
Instructions
MAKE SURE TO DOWNLOAD THE FILES FOR YOUR SPECIFIC DEVICE (T700, T705, T800, T805, etc.)
You will need Odin (This is the software that will allow you to install the root and other files [FLASHING])
CF-AutoRoot (Will provide Root access for your device): You will be flashing this with Odin
Optional: Install custom recovery TWRP. This is also done with Odin. This will allow you to make backups and flash .zip files, including custom roms, apps, etc.
Just google for guides on rooting Samsung Galaxy Tab S. They will show you step by step on how to do the Odin flashing, PDA, settings, autoreset or not, etc.
I recommend backing up your device at this point. Reboot into recovery (instructions will be in the rooting guides), go to backup and backup everything for now. In the future when you feel comfortable enough that you can/will select to only backup what you deem necessary.
Your device is now rooted, the first boot after installing CFAutoRoot will take awhile +/-3 - 5 minutes.
Now download Titanium Backup, and you can google or search XDA for a list of "safe" things to uninstall. Just go into TitaniumBackup and look for the app you want to Freeze (This will prevent the app from running but it will NOT delete it, thus it will still take up space) or Remove.
Busybox: Will be required by certain apps.
Optional:
Link2SD App, this allows you to install/move/link your apps to the SD Card, it essentially frees up your internal memory of the device and tricks the device into installing apps and their data files onto your second partition of your External SD Card (Google or Search XDA for guides on Link2SD). This will allow you to install a lot more apps than you normally would be able to. (Example: Vice City, San Andreas, Plants vs Zombies, etc. I mention these because of their large data size). Not all apps will work when linked, just trial and error. I can't seem to get Word, Excel, Powerpoint linked to my SD Card without at least one of the failing, same with Facebook. You will have to test each app and see what files you can link/bind and which you can't.
Adblock Plus: Self explanatory
Xposed: A bunch of customization options for your device
ES File Explorer Pro: The best file management/directory app IMO
Greenify: Battery saver
Aptoide: Secondary App Store
Hancom Apps: I feel these work better on occasion then the Microsoft Office apps (Example large excel files with multiple formulas and filters)
NovaLauncher: Custom launcher, a lot more customizations then TouchWiz will provide you. (Your home screen)
Tasker: Limitless possibilities with this app (Search google/XDA for info)
TWRP Manager: TWRP Recovery app.
VLC: Video player
4way_multiwindow: This will allow you to have 4 apps open at a time and 3 apps "minimized", this also allows floating windows (Moveable apps running in "windowed mode" essentially.) There is an aesthetic bug when minimized, I have not found a fixed version of this yet, maybe others can provide link. Just load up TWRP manager and choose install, and select the .zip file and it will reboot into recovery and install the file for you. Or you can boot your device into recovery and install it the same way. I am attaching the .zip file.
If you are happy with your device up to this point, I would create another backup after you are done with the initial set up and have installed the apps of your choosing. Save a copy on the device, PC, NAS, etc. just in case you lose one of your copies. Some TWRP versions do not allow you to backup directly to the external SD Card, you may have to backup into the Internal and then transfer the information over to the external SD Card.
Good Luck.
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Root with chain fire root, flash via Odin.
This will allow you to have root access allowing you to remove unwanted app amongst other things
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Is this the link I should be using? I'll know for sure what it's model number is once I receive the tablet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/root-cf-autoroot-twrp-t800-t3079488
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Flash via Odin: TWRP Recovery for Chagallwifi (assuming it's a Samsung T800)
This will allow you to create a back up.
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Doesn't installing Chain Fire Root via the previous link also contain the TWRP Recovery? Or is this a special version I need to install after running the first root through Odin? What is Chagallwifi?
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I believe the order of this can be inverted. IE. Flash recovery with Odin and then have TWRP flash the CFAutoroot zip and the SuperSU (the app that will "manage" your root)
Install Titanium Back up and freeze/uninstall unwanted apps. There are lists of removable apps on the forums. I prefer to freeze but it's up to you.
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This is just an app I get from the Google Play store right? Or is there a special version I need to get, or install manually? I think I saw in a YouTube video that I need to install something called GApps if I want install something from there after rooting, is this correct? Also, if Titanium Backup IS an app, how can I get a backup of the entire system when I'm booted into the OS? I think I read somewhere, or saw screenshots that show this basically creates backups of your installed programs, so you can easily restore them without having to re-download them. Maybe I'm wrong, as I said I'm completely new this and probably don't know what I'm talking about.
My biggest concern is that I'll screw something up and find myself with a tablet I can't use, without having had it no more than a couple days, and having spent nearly $600 for it and the accessories. I know that rooting/etc voids the warranty, but I also have seen where people are able to put the whole system back to factory default for repairs, etc. That sounds like something I really need to learn how to do and be confident I can do should something happen.
Thanks again for any help!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/root-cf-autoroot-twrp-t800-t3079488
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This link works, although there are newer versions of TWRP, you can install these after however, no big deal.
Doesn't installing Chain Fire Root via the previous link also contain the TWRP Recovery? Or is this a special version I need to install after running the first root through Odin? What is Chagallwifi?
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The previous link contains TWRP, read above. The normal CF Autoroot comes with CWM Recovery I believe (A custom recovery similar to TWRP). You can use the link you posted. Chagallwifi is the "nickname" of the Galaxy Tab S 10.5 WiFi, it is one way to search for a device, the other being the model number T800, for instance or the long commercial name.
This is just an app I get from the Google Play store right? Or is there a special version I need to get, or install manually? I think I saw in a YouTube video that I need to install something called GApps if I want install something from there after rooting, is this correct? Also, if Titanium Backup IS an app, how can I get a backup of the entire system when I'm booted into the OS? I think I read somewhere, or saw screenshots that show this basically creates backups of your installed programs, so you can easily restore them without having to re-download them. Maybe I'm wrong, as I said I'm completely new this and probably don't know what I'm talking about.
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You get the app from the playstore, correct. I am not sure about GApps, I want to say it isn't necessary unless you will be installing a custom rom (you can double check this on the rooting guides, if it asks for GApps, then flash the GApps)
The system back up is done via TWRP or CWM, boot into recovery and choose backup.
Titanium Backup allows you to back up the app and its data file. So you don't lose the progress of your games. Also backs up email, WiFi passwords, etc.
My biggest concern is that I'll screw something up and find myself with a tablet I can't use, without having had it no more than a couple days, and having spent nearly $600 for it and the accessories. I know that rooting/etc voids the warranty, but I also have seen where people are able to put the whole system back to factory default for repairs, etc. That sounds like something I really need to learn how to do and be confident I can do should something happen.
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Most of the errors cause soft bricks, you can recover from these. I would recommend you backup after rooting, in case you mess something up toying with Titanium, Link2SD, SuperSU, etc. You can always use SamMobile and find a Stock Rom to flash back onto the device, again via Odin. Not sure if the KnoxTrip flag will still show up, you can trying Googling how to root without tripping Knox, I know there are methods, however I have never used them. I have soft bricked my device before, I deleted everything with TWRP, I wanted to factory reset, and I selected erase System..... scary times.
Stock Rom: SamFirm (Outdated) or Updato
Thanks for all your help and advice. I just got my tablet today. Still kinda playing around with it. I probably won't do anything for a couple of days. At least till my next day off from work (Thursday) so I can concentrate on what I'm doing. I was really scared when I first turned it on, everything was in Korean. I had to find a YouTube video showing how to go through the initial setup to change the language. All good now. Once I got it fully running, it downloaded a 350mb update and rebooted. I'm now running Lolipop 5.0.2. Is that going to cause any issues? Also, I can now confirm that it is model SM-T800.
Thanks again!
ChewVodka, once your past the learning curve rooting etc. can be done in your sleep. After some research, I rooted a 10.1 tab 4 a while back with no problem. Definitely better o have more control over the device, I think. Just got a new 10.5 also, and am looking around for the best way to administer the Android system - the Galaxy Tab S for Dummies book seems to me to be actually a good place to start. I'll check back here with any choice info I find on the 10.5.
Also, I have this case for my 10.1, and this is the best under $20 case you can get for the 10.5 - so cheap I bought two of them! Type in search: Xtra-Funky Exclusive Samsung Galaxy Tab S, 10.5 -- the black and navy blue are cool -- the others kinda garish.
Easy Way, allow installation of 3rd party apps in settings download this for android https://kingroot.net/ run it select install anyway when you get the pop up, and root device , open Playstore download flashify for root users, run it allow it access , click recovery image then download twrp choose the 3.0.2-0 release and install to your tab and reboot into recovery, at this point you can use it to make a backup of your current rom or install a custom rom (following the directions on the page for the rom that you choose), this is easier method if you aren't familiar with odin and don't have the drivers and all set up on pc. You can also change kingroot over to super user in a few different ways can download and use supersume from play store and run it or, just flash the newest superuser in twrp and remove whats leftover from kingroot manually after reboot. If you intend on doing a custom rom i suggest choosing first and having all files available before you start. However if you intend on using odin You might want to install this first http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790 so you have full communication with the device in case anything does go wrong there will be other options. This is of course if you are not already setup with this already. Also I would like to note there are a few roms here based on the stock firmware if you like it just look through the forum see what you like, and read everything.
What are the benefits to a custom ROM? I assume you're talking about things like Cyanogenmod. There are some people in another forum I visit that like it, but I don't know what it is or why I would want it. Does it allow installing pirated software or something? It's probably not allowed to be discussed here, and I'm not saying I would purposely do something like that (not that I wouldn't if possible lol). It all comes down to the fact that I'm completely new to the tablet world, other than the fact that it's a bigger and better Kindle Fire that I can get more usage out of by not being limited to Amazon's ROM and store for apps. The biggest things I'm looking to do is get rid of bloatware that came preinstalled (of which a lot was added with the update) and the ability to make backups of the entire system should something screw up.
It sounds like "rooting" is essentially giving you the administrative control access to the system (like in Windows) instead of being limited to a generic "user". That allows you to install more system accessible programs, where a generic user would get a UAC prompt and then be told and Administrator needs to preform that action. As for "recovery", it sounds like that is sort of like the CMOS/BIOS of a PC. It's the first "program" that runs when you boot up (even requiring a specific keypress to enter). This allows you to access the system before the system boots, to get you backup/restore functions, and the ability to install new OS's. It also sounds like the built in version from Samsung is what is getting changed (like updating the BIOS of the PC) to allow more functionality (like backups, etc). The only thing you don't have access to is stuff like disk drives, but things like RAM and CPU can be adjusted once you have ROOT.
The more I learn about it, the more I'm eager to do it. I really don't like feeling confined to a predetermined set of available things to do, and I really don't like having somebody decide to install software I'll never use on my system that just takes up space. I especially hate that said programs can't even be uninstalled. Looks like this is what I'm gonna have to do!
Decided not to wait and rooted it tonight. I have the freedom now to play, though I'm not sure where to start. Currently I have the CF-Autoroot thing done, and it installed SuperSU. Then I did the TWRP recovery, and made a backup of all the partitions. I was kinda hoping I could backup remotely (like on the computer) rather than stored on the same device. I have a microSD card ordered and on the way, so my next task will be to back up to that. There is a tool I use on my Kindle Fire called ES File Explorer. I'll see if I can get that on this. Then I can find the backup and transfer it over the wifi.
I'll check out your other recommended apps as I have time. Thanks again!
Now I'm having a bunch of trouble. I was able to get the Chainfire root to go through, and verified it with a Root Checker. I then installed the TWRP recovery so I could make a backup. I even have a few backups. Then I went and installed an app called TWRP Manager, that was supposed to enable me the option of making backups LIVE (without having to boot into TWRP). It wasn't working, so I went to do a "Classic Backup" which reboots into TWRP and starts the backup then reboots normally. Well, TWRP never booted. I just had a black screen. Nothing seemed to work. I couldn't power on with the power button, and I couldn't manually boot into TWRP. The only option that did anything was ODIN (Download) Mode. I'm really freaking out at this point. I found a way to connect to XDA's IRC Channel and talked with some really nice guys and was told to try re-flashing the stock. I did that, and it worked. But now I'm stuck again. Basically starting from scratch with a stock system, I went through to install the Chainfire root again. It seemed to work ok, and SuperSU showed up. Ran the Root Verifier and it confirmed it was successful. I then went to flash TWRP. ODIN says it passed, but I still can't boot into it. Here's the kicker.. even if it appears that it's not working, if I do the keypresses on my tablet correctly and wait like 2-3 minutes then try again, TWRP will actually be up but the screen locked. WTF??
So did I something wrong? I'm really lost. Like I told the guys in the chatroom, I'm going on blind faith here, not really knowing what I'm doing. I figured once I have stock installed, I'm basically back to square one and can go through the whole process again. Doesn't seem to be working. I have to go to work now but hopefully somebody has something of a suggestion I can try by the time I get home.
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4way_multiwindow: This will allow you to have 4 apps open at a time and 3 apps "minimized", this also allows floating windows (Moveable apps running in "windowed mode" essentially.) There is an aesthetic bug when minimized, I have not found a fixed version of this yet, maybe others can provide link. Just load up TWRP manager and choose install, and select the .zip file and it will reboot into recovery and install the file for you. Or you can boot your device into recovery and install it the same way. I am attaching the .zip file.
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Before I try this myself and bootloop, would I be safe flashing the 4way multiwindow on the new stock 6.0.1 ROM? (SM-T805)