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All i want to do is root my phone. I have read quite a few articles on it, as well as pros and cons. Searching was also done so don't attack me with the "use the search feature" line. Reading too deep into the rabbit hole proved that anything beyond rooting (although highly beneficial and likely to attempt in the future) was too overwhelming for my busy work schedule. I'm aware of the different methods to achieve root, but I'm still unsure as to whether or not i will lose any data at all, such as app, sms, contacts, call logs, etc.
Any info as to how to root my Evo without losing any data would be greatly appreciated. My main reason is to finally get rid of the Nova app along with others, and to have full control of my phone while i slowly learn from these forums.
P.S. I apologize for being #1,000,000 to ask on this topic.
MindSplit said:
All i want to do is root my phone. I have read quite a few articles on it, as well as pros and cons. Searching was also done so don't attack me with the "use the search feature" line. Reading too deep into the rabbit hole proved that anything beyond rooting (although highly beneficial and likely to attempt in the future) was too overwhelming for my busy work schedule. I'm aware of the different methods to achieve root, but I'm still unsure as to whether or not i will lose any data at all, such as app, sms, contacts, call logs, etc.
Any info as to how to root my Evo without losing any data would be greatly appreciated. My main reason is to finally get rid of the Nova app along with others, and to have full control of my phone while i slowly learn from these forums.
P.S. I apologize for being #1,000,000 to ask on this topic.
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Use unrevoked3. Its easy. Just follow instructions. U wont lose any data or apps or so forth unless u flash a new rom. Use titanium backup from market after u root phone to save apps and data.
Papa Smurf151 said:
Use unrevoked3. Its easy. Just follow instructions. U wont lose any data or apps or so forth unless u flash a new rom. Use titanium backup from market after u root phone to save apps and data.
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Assuming i follow the directions correctly......consider your self loved by a stranger!
Thanks for the quick response.
Now quick question which i couldn't find an answer for. After installing hboot was i supposed to disconnect my phone from usb? Also how do i exit the white menu where it says fastboot, recovery, clear storage etc.
bump! i hope i didnt screw the process up
bump? ok if you already managed to install the drivers, make sure your phone has usb debug on, you do that in settings, apps, development. also make sure you have othe sources checked, you do that on settings, apps.
no turn your antivirus off on your computer
if you installed htc sync uninstall it
now plug your phone to pc( if it prompts you to select type of connection only charge)
then right click on the file that is unrevoked and run as administrator, follow unscreen intructions and done.
mine was automatic so i didnt need to do anything after i ran it.
good luck
emcp422 said:
bump? ok if you already managed to install the drivers, make sure your phone has usb debug on, you do that in settings, apps, development. also make sure you have othe sources checked, you do that on settings, apps.
no turn your antivirus off on your computer
if you installed htc sync uninstall it
now plug your phone to pc( if it prompts you to select type of connection only charge)
then right click on the file that is unrevoked and run as administrator, follow unscreen intructions and done.
mine was automatic so i didnt need to do anything after i ran it.
good luck
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ok last question it says done but my phone is on a clockworkmod recovery screen how do i just load my phone up and use it.
sorry late reply you always get out of recovery with the reboot now option, also you should instal titanium back up so you can back up your apps and get busy box, which you need on your phone so it doesnt lag after root, once installed titanium , open it up, it will probably say you need root, if it does dont mind it you have root, at the bottom you will see a box that says problems, hit it and it will ask you to install busy box, hit yes and you are done, hope procedure is easy and you can do it if not click my user name and send me a message
What you'll need:
1: USB drivers---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500669
2: SuperOneClick v2.3.3.0 byshortfuse)
Connect your phone to your computer and run SuperOneClick. It should read "Successful" and then reboot your phone. I went straight to the appstore and downloaded BusyBox, SuperSU, ES File Explorer, and Titanium Backup but the SuperSU is your choice. If you do not grab the SuperSU then go ahead & update SuperUser. If you want to use SuperSU then give it SuperUser permission first. Open your ES file explorer and uninstall the SuperUser. This is a Sprint Kyocera Milano C5120 with 2.3.4 firmware loaded on it. So far I have not found a recovery that will work with this but it has one already there, you can find it by holding the volume down button and power before boot. These are just my findings that worked for me and I am not taking responsibility for your phone if anything happens to it, but mine was easy and painless. This will at least allow you to get rid of the preloaded apps on your phone.
If I've helped you in any way, please click thank you.
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What you'll need:
1: USB drivers---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500669
2: SuperOneClick v2.3.3.0 byshortfuse)
Connect your phone to your computer and run SuperOneClick. It should read "Successful" and then reboot your phone. I went straight to the appstore and downloaded BusyBox, SuperSU, ES File Explorer, and Titanium Backup but the SuperSU is your choice. If you do not grab the SuperSU then go ahead & update SuperUser. If you want to use SuperSU then give it SuperUser permission first. Open your ES file explorer and uninstall the SuperUser. This is a Sprint Kyocera Milano C5120 with 2.3.4 firmware loaded on it. So far I have not found a recovery that will work with this but it has one already there, you can find it by holding the volume down button and power before boot. These are just my findings that worked for me and I am not taking responsibility for your phone if anything happens to it, but mine was easy and painless. This will at least allow you to get rid of the preloaded apps on your phone.
If I've helped you in any way, please click thank you.
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This does not work. In march of 2012 an update was sent OTA to the Milano preventing zergrush and the other method Superoneclick uses from working.
Not sure if you have a very old phone or what but on any Milano purchased or updated after march 2012 SuperOneClick WILL NOT work.
I have been scouring Google for hours and have yet to find any way to root a Kyocera Milano that has been updated to prevent rooting exploits.
I'm guessing my phone was purchased in April or May of 2012 from Krogers and it probably sat on their shelf for a few months. Whatever the case, I'm sorry that you cannot root your phone as of now and if I run across something, I will share it with you.
Root Milano patched 2.3.4 Gingerbread
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I'm guessing my phone was purchased in April or May of 2012 from Krogers and it probably sat on their shelf for a few months. Whatever the case, I'm sorry that you cannot root your phone as of now and if I run across something, I will share it with you.
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I just got my phone from Ting a couple weeks ago and rooted it yesterday.
Unfortunately I can't directly post Outside links (Not at 10 posts yet, and have no idea what else to post about other than this at the moment, which requires a link (For Credit Due Purposes) and I know it will be helpful to people that were as desperate as me for something that was starting to seem rather impossible and no one was paying that much attention to it.), but this is important enough that I'll try to just chop it up - You'll just have to put it back together to go to that site.
This works:
androidforums
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Not sure why the guide says "Enable usb debugging in Settings, Applications, Development" since you never use the PC, I enabled it anyway, and also enabled to install third party apps, or else Poot won't install, not sure why that isn't on the guide. (Maybe they got mixed up?)
A few things you might want to know:
After hours I finally found the solution. But the terminal still doesn't work for uninstalling ("pm uninstall com.google.android.books.apk" = Failure), you have to do everything though your phone (I'm using the app "RootAppDelete"). The phone roots itself with a third party app called "Poot" using libraries from "Ministro 2"
Before doing this you're gonna need something like 25MBs of storage or so (Can delete everything afterwards with the exception of SuperUser (Can't delete that) to get the space back (Also, you need a app to actually use root actions). - The "Ministro 2" packages are huge for this phone's tiny internal storage! 11MB around)
Make sure to install anything small first and anything big right before the phone gets over 15MB full, because at that time you can't install anything else, with low memory errors.
Another thing that might have helped me when I did this is - back when I couldn't root I made all apps default install to the phone with the android sdk platform-tools (I didn't want to risk anything so I moved Poot, Ministro 2 and SuperUser back to the phone before running Poot. since they default installed to the SD)
"adb shell"
"pm SetInstallLocation 2"
Know its been said elsewhere, but this works with the Milano. Wanted to say that in case you needed the space to use Poot.
And the last problem is after I did all this, now my headphone jack wants to think it has headphones plugged in all the time, If I move the phone around it starts playing on the phone's speaker. It seems like something is lose. Not sure if that was caused by the root (since it wasn't doing it before, and I've never used the headphone jack before) or because there was lose hardware, not sure. Still working on a solution to that, which I found
something similar here, almost looks like a common problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817872
I would put my proof of doing this have a screen shot of root checker, but alas its an outside link. Understand though.
And as I've read a million times before this, here's a disclaimer: I'm not responsible and use at your own risk.
Are you on AT&T, rooted with CWM or TWRP recovery, and don't want to update to the new, currently un-rootable ROM, or take the chance that AT&T will push the FOTA update to your phone and attempt to install it without your knowledge? Here's one way to block it:
1. Download Autorun Manager from the Play Store.
2. Run Autorun Manager, give it SU privileges, and enter its Recommended Advanced Mode.
3. Go to Settings, check both "Show system entries" and "Enable system app disable", and return to the list of apps.
4. Scroll down to "Google Services Framework" and open it.
5. Scroll down the list until you see "com.android.gsf.update.SystemUpdateService$Receiver" (mine was at the bottom of the list). Uncheck this to Disable it.
6. Exit Autorun Manager.
That's it. FOTA updates are now blocked.
This info is available in various places here on XDA, and other places on the web. I'm just reposting it here for those that don't want to be bothered with the problems that can be caused by AT&T's pissy little update.
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Are you on AT&T, rooted with CWM or TWRP recovery, and don't want to update to the new, currently un-rootable ROM, or take the chance that AT&T will push the FOTA update to your phone and attempt to install it without your knowledge? Here's one way to block it:
1. Download Autorun Manager from the Play Store.
2. Run Autorun Manager, give it SU privileges, and enter its Recommended Advanced Mode.
3. Go to Settings, check both "Show system entries" and "Enable system app disable", and return to the list of apps.
4. Scroll down to "Google Services Framework" and open it.
5. Scroll down the list until you see "com.android.gsf.update.SystemUpdateService$Receiver" (mine was at the bottom of the list). Uncheck this to Disable it.
6. Exit Autorun Manager.
That's it. FOTA updates are now blocked.
This info is available in various places here on XDA, and other places on the web. I'm just reposting it here for those that don't want to be bothered with the problems that can be caused by AT&T's pissy little update.
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F#$K man. This is great...
I have been hit three times in a row by the latest little update from AT&T, and have each time ended with CWM Recovery loop. This is so effing wrong !! I have a post here on how to get out of the recovery loop
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603454&page=7 post #70.
EDIT: This did not completely remove the painful notification and for somereasoon I could not delete the downloaded in "/system/cache". So I applied the update, then used adb to recover from the CWM loop and delete the Fota.img, rebooted. Then I also installed the FOTAkill.apk app here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249350
Now the update is dead !!
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F#$K man. This is great...
I have been hit three times in a row by the latest little update from AT&T, and have each time ended with CWM Recovery loop. This is so effing wrong !! I have a post here on how to get out of the recovery loop
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603454&page=7 post #70.
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Damn right it's WRONG! Deliberately borking folks that don't follow the master's rules. Especially those folks that have had the update pushed and automatically attempted install without their consent. Pure crap!
chappatti said:
EDIT: This did not completely remove the painful notification and for somereasoon I could not delete the downloaded in "/system/cache". So I applied the update, then used adb to recover from the CWM loop and delete the Fota.img, rebooted. Then I also installed the FOTAkill.apk app here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249350
Now the update is dead !!
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Good! Whatever works for you. My own experience with Android has been that a given "cure" will not necessarily work for everyone. As for the method I mentioned above I've gone 72+ hours without any data transfer related to the update. So far, so good.
Official OTA's aren't pushed out to those using an unlocked AT&T version on other carriers right?
Update FYI - 10 days now since making the adjustment in the OP and still no indication of my phone attempting any update.
I followed and used this thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1963790 ) to root my phone, and i have no troubles following the steps. I searched around the thread and found out that i can unroot my phone with the SuperSU app, so i went into the app and selected the unroot button. To my knowledge it worked, since when i went into my Root Check app it said that there wasn't any root found. But here is my problem, when i go into my phone settings and select the stock update for my phone it gives me a message of "Your device has been modified. Software updates are not available", so am I missing something? Is there another step i must do to be able to update my phone from 4.1.2. My phone is the Galaxy S3 SGH-I747M. Thanks for taking the time to read my post!
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I followed and used this thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1963790 ) to root my phone, and i have no troubles following the steps. I searched around the thread and found out that i can unroot my phone with the SuperSU app, so i went into the app and selected the unroot button. To my knowledge it worked, since when i went into my Root Check app it said that there wasn't any root found. But here is my problem, when i go into my phone settings and select the stock update for my phone it gives me a message of "Your device has been modified. Software updates are not available", so am I missing something? Is there another step i must do to be able to update my phone from 4.1.2. My phone is the Galaxy S3 SGH-I747M. Thanks for taking the time to read my post!
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Try doing 2 things: First do a hard wipe/reset from settings (after backing up your data, of course). Then boot into download mode and see what your settings are especially if you have a custom or official binary. Sometimes though OTA update availability may take 24-48 hours to register. Finally, if you really want to update your phone to the latest OS, this could be done manually and I'd be glad to point you in the direction of this. Since you are still on 4.1.2, I would suggest you take the opportunity to free unlock your phone on 4.1.1 (if you haven't done this already).
Thanks for the reply,
Won't this method delete all my settings (in my phone settings and app settings)?
BAWTH said:
Thanks for the reply,
Won't this method delete all my settings (in my phone settings and app settings)?
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Yes, it may which is why you need to do a back-up. You could do a simple back with Kies and restore your apps and settings afterwards.
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I would use KingoRoot to unroot the phone, without losing anything! (It's free too just Google it)
I just ordered this beautiful tablet. I've never owned a tablet before. I've actually always wanted a laptop, but things are changing. I have an Amazon Kindle Fire HD from many years ago. It's actually worked pretty well for me for ebook reading, limited web browsing and email using. But, the last few months it's really started acting funny and not working right. So I've decided it's time to upgrade. Did a week's worth of research and decided this is my best option. I haven't received it yet, but I'm really excited to dig in and do a lot more than I can with my Kindle.
So that brings me here. I don't remember where, but through my research on which tablet to buy, this website was mentioned as a major resource. To be completely honest, I'm 100% lost. There are things I want to do but I don't even know where to start. I love tinkering and figuring things out, but I need a little push in the right direction.
One of the biggest things I want to be able to do is make a complete low level backup of the entire system to store on my home server should anything happen and I need to restore it.
The other big thing I want to do is remove all the excess junk that comes pre-installed that I'll never use. With such a small area of space available, having half or so used up in unnecessary stuff is just pointless.
I'm sure there are other things I can do and may want to do in the future, but for now, these are the major keys. So... any help? Did I make the right choice? What other features/functions should I be looking at or considering?
Thanks guys! Looking forward to getting a lot of great use out of my new tablet and this site.
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I just ordered this beautiful tablet. I've never owned a tablet before. I've actually always wanted a laptop, but things are changing. I have an Amazon Kindle Fire HD from many years ago. It's actually worked pretty well for me for ebook reading, limited web browsing and email using. But, the last few months it's really started acting funny and not working right. So I've decided it's time to upgrade. Did a week's worth of research and decided this is my best option. I haven't received it yet, but I'm really excited to dig in and do a lot more than I can with my Kindle.
So that brings me here. I don't remember where, but through my research on which tablet to buy, this website was mentioned as a major resource. To be completely honest, I'm 100% lost. There are things I want to do but I don't even know where to start. I love tinkering and figuring things out, but I need a little push in the right direction.
One of the biggest things I want to be able to do is make a complete low level backup of the entire system to store on my home server should anything happen and I need to restore it.
The other big thing I want to do is remove all the excess junk that comes pre-installed that I'll never use. With such a small area of space available, having half or so used up in unnecessary stuff is just pointless.
I'm sure there are other things I can do and may want to do in the future, but for now, these are the major keys. So... any help? Did I make the right choice? What other features/functions should I be looking at or considering?
Thanks guys! Looking forward to getting a lot of great use out of my new tablet and this site.
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Root with chain fire root, flash via Odin.
This will allow you to have root access allowing you to remove unwanted app amongst other things
Flash via Odin: TWRP Recovery for Chagallwifi (assuming it's a Samsung T800)
This will allow you to create a back up.
I believe the order of this can be inverted. IE. Flash recovery with Odin and then have TWRP flash the CFAutoroot zip and the SuperSU (the app that will "manage" your root)
Install Titanium Back up and freeze/uninstall unwanted apps. There are lists of removable apps on the forums. I prefer to freeze but it's up to you.
!!!Make a backup prior to this step!!!
Will update post when I am home with more suggestion's.
Thanks, that's somewhat helpful. At least it give me the names of programs. I have no idea what I'm doing though. Can you give me a link to a step-by-step guide, or at least explain what the different things are and what they do? Sorry for being such a noob with this.
Instructions
MAKE SURE TO DOWNLOAD THE FILES FOR YOUR SPECIFIC DEVICE (T700, T705, T800, T805, etc.)
You will need Odin (This is the software that will allow you to install the root and other files [FLASHING])
CF-AutoRoot (Will provide Root access for your device): You will be flashing this with Odin
Optional: Install custom recovery TWRP. This is also done with Odin. This will allow you to make backups and flash .zip files, including custom roms, apps, etc.
Just google for guides on rooting Samsung Galaxy Tab S. They will show you step by step on how to do the Odin flashing, PDA, settings, autoreset or not, etc.
I recommend backing up your device at this point. Reboot into recovery (instructions will be in the rooting guides), go to backup and backup everything for now. In the future when you feel comfortable enough that you can/will select to only backup what you deem necessary.
Your device is now rooted, the first boot after installing CFAutoRoot will take awhile +/-3 - 5 minutes.
Now download Titanium Backup, and you can google or search XDA for a list of "safe" things to uninstall. Just go into TitaniumBackup and look for the app you want to Freeze (This will prevent the app from running but it will NOT delete it, thus it will still take up space) or Remove.
Busybox: Will be required by certain apps.
Optional:
Link2SD App, this allows you to install/move/link your apps to the SD Card, it essentially frees up your internal memory of the device and tricks the device into installing apps and their data files onto your second partition of your External SD Card (Google or Search XDA for guides on Link2SD). This will allow you to install a lot more apps than you normally would be able to. (Example: Vice City, San Andreas, Plants vs Zombies, etc. I mention these because of their large data size). Not all apps will work when linked, just trial and error. I can't seem to get Word, Excel, Powerpoint linked to my SD Card without at least one of the failing, same with Facebook. You will have to test each app and see what files you can link/bind and which you can't.
Adblock Plus: Self explanatory
Xposed: A bunch of customization options for your device
ES File Explorer Pro: The best file management/directory app IMO
Greenify: Battery saver
Aptoide: Secondary App Store
Hancom Apps: I feel these work better on occasion then the Microsoft Office apps (Example large excel files with multiple formulas and filters)
NovaLauncher: Custom launcher, a lot more customizations then TouchWiz will provide you. (Your home screen)
Tasker: Limitless possibilities with this app (Search google/XDA for info)
TWRP Manager: TWRP Recovery app.
VLC: Video player
4way_multiwindow: This will allow you to have 4 apps open at a time and 3 apps "minimized", this also allows floating windows (Moveable apps running in "windowed mode" essentially.) There is an aesthetic bug when minimized, I have not found a fixed version of this yet, maybe others can provide link. Just load up TWRP manager and choose install, and select the .zip file and it will reboot into recovery and install the file for you. Or you can boot your device into recovery and install it the same way. I am attaching the .zip file.
If you are happy with your device up to this point, I would create another backup after you are done with the initial set up and have installed the apps of your choosing. Save a copy on the device, PC, NAS, etc. just in case you lose one of your copies. Some TWRP versions do not allow you to backup directly to the external SD Card, you may have to backup into the Internal and then transfer the information over to the external SD Card.
Good Luck.
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Root with chain fire root, flash via Odin.
This will allow you to have root access allowing you to remove unwanted app amongst other things
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Is this the link I should be using? I'll know for sure what it's model number is once I receive the tablet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/root-cf-autoroot-twrp-t800-t3079488
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Flash via Odin: TWRP Recovery for Chagallwifi (assuming it's a Samsung T800)
This will allow you to create a back up.
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Doesn't installing Chain Fire Root via the previous link also contain the TWRP Recovery? Or is this a special version I need to install after running the first root through Odin? What is Chagallwifi?
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I believe the order of this can be inverted. IE. Flash recovery with Odin and then have TWRP flash the CFAutoroot zip and the SuperSU (the app that will "manage" your root)
Install Titanium Back up and freeze/uninstall unwanted apps. There are lists of removable apps on the forums. I prefer to freeze but it's up to you.
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This is just an app I get from the Google Play store right? Or is there a special version I need to get, or install manually? I think I saw in a YouTube video that I need to install something called GApps if I want install something from there after rooting, is this correct? Also, if Titanium Backup IS an app, how can I get a backup of the entire system when I'm booted into the OS? I think I read somewhere, or saw screenshots that show this basically creates backups of your installed programs, so you can easily restore them without having to re-download them. Maybe I'm wrong, as I said I'm completely new this and probably don't know what I'm talking about.
My biggest concern is that I'll screw something up and find myself with a tablet I can't use, without having had it no more than a couple days, and having spent nearly $600 for it and the accessories. I know that rooting/etc voids the warranty, but I also have seen where people are able to put the whole system back to factory default for repairs, etc. That sounds like something I really need to learn how to do and be confident I can do should something happen.
Thanks again for any help!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/root-cf-autoroot-twrp-t800-t3079488
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This link works, although there are newer versions of TWRP, you can install these after however, no big deal.
Doesn't installing Chain Fire Root via the previous link also contain the TWRP Recovery? Or is this a special version I need to install after running the first root through Odin? What is Chagallwifi?
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The previous link contains TWRP, read above. The normal CF Autoroot comes with CWM Recovery I believe (A custom recovery similar to TWRP). You can use the link you posted. Chagallwifi is the "nickname" of the Galaxy Tab S 10.5 WiFi, it is one way to search for a device, the other being the model number T800, for instance or the long commercial name.
This is just an app I get from the Google Play store right? Or is there a special version I need to get, or install manually? I think I saw in a YouTube video that I need to install something called GApps if I want install something from there after rooting, is this correct? Also, if Titanium Backup IS an app, how can I get a backup of the entire system when I'm booted into the OS? I think I read somewhere, or saw screenshots that show this basically creates backups of your installed programs, so you can easily restore them without having to re-download them. Maybe I'm wrong, as I said I'm completely new this and probably don't know what I'm talking about.
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You get the app from the playstore, correct. I am not sure about GApps, I want to say it isn't necessary unless you will be installing a custom rom (you can double check this on the rooting guides, if it asks for GApps, then flash the GApps)
The system back up is done via TWRP or CWM, boot into recovery and choose backup.
Titanium Backup allows you to back up the app and its data file. So you don't lose the progress of your games. Also backs up email, WiFi passwords, etc.
My biggest concern is that I'll screw something up and find myself with a tablet I can't use, without having had it no more than a couple days, and having spent nearly $600 for it and the accessories. I know that rooting/etc voids the warranty, but I also have seen where people are able to put the whole system back to factory default for repairs, etc. That sounds like something I really need to learn how to do and be confident I can do should something happen.
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Most of the errors cause soft bricks, you can recover from these. I would recommend you backup after rooting, in case you mess something up toying with Titanium, Link2SD, SuperSU, etc. You can always use SamMobile and find a Stock Rom to flash back onto the device, again via Odin. Not sure if the KnoxTrip flag will still show up, you can trying Googling how to root without tripping Knox, I know there are methods, however I have never used them. I have soft bricked my device before, I deleted everything with TWRP, I wanted to factory reset, and I selected erase System..... scary times.
Stock Rom: SamFirm (Outdated) or Updato
Thanks for all your help and advice. I just got my tablet today. Still kinda playing around with it. I probably won't do anything for a couple of days. At least till my next day off from work (Thursday) so I can concentrate on what I'm doing. I was really scared when I first turned it on, everything was in Korean. I had to find a YouTube video showing how to go through the initial setup to change the language. All good now. Once I got it fully running, it downloaded a 350mb update and rebooted. I'm now running Lolipop 5.0.2. Is that going to cause any issues? Also, I can now confirm that it is model SM-T800.
Thanks again!
ChewVodka, once your past the learning curve rooting etc. can be done in your sleep. After some research, I rooted a 10.1 tab 4 a while back with no problem. Definitely better o have more control over the device, I think. Just got a new 10.5 also, and am looking around for the best way to administer the Android system - the Galaxy Tab S for Dummies book seems to me to be actually a good place to start. I'll check back here with any choice info I find on the 10.5.
Also, I have this case for my 10.1, and this is the best under $20 case you can get for the 10.5 - so cheap I bought two of them! Type in search: Xtra-Funky Exclusive Samsung Galaxy Tab S, 10.5 -- the black and navy blue are cool -- the others kinda garish.
Easy Way, allow installation of 3rd party apps in settings download this for android https://kingroot.net/ run it select install anyway when you get the pop up, and root device , open Playstore download flashify for root users, run it allow it access , click recovery image then download twrp choose the 3.0.2-0 release and install to your tab and reboot into recovery, at this point you can use it to make a backup of your current rom or install a custom rom (following the directions on the page for the rom that you choose), this is easier method if you aren't familiar with odin and don't have the drivers and all set up on pc. You can also change kingroot over to super user in a few different ways can download and use supersume from play store and run it or, just flash the newest superuser in twrp and remove whats leftover from kingroot manually after reboot. If you intend on doing a custom rom i suggest choosing first and having all files available before you start. However if you intend on using odin You might want to install this first http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790 so you have full communication with the device in case anything does go wrong there will be other options. This is of course if you are not already setup with this already. Also I would like to note there are a few roms here based on the stock firmware if you like it just look through the forum see what you like, and read everything.
What are the benefits to a custom ROM? I assume you're talking about things like Cyanogenmod. There are some people in another forum I visit that like it, but I don't know what it is or why I would want it. Does it allow installing pirated software or something? It's probably not allowed to be discussed here, and I'm not saying I would purposely do something like that (not that I wouldn't if possible lol). It all comes down to the fact that I'm completely new to the tablet world, other than the fact that it's a bigger and better Kindle Fire that I can get more usage out of by not being limited to Amazon's ROM and store for apps. The biggest things I'm looking to do is get rid of bloatware that came preinstalled (of which a lot was added with the update) and the ability to make backups of the entire system should something screw up.
It sounds like "rooting" is essentially giving you the administrative control access to the system (like in Windows) instead of being limited to a generic "user". That allows you to install more system accessible programs, where a generic user would get a UAC prompt and then be told and Administrator needs to preform that action. As for "recovery", it sounds like that is sort of like the CMOS/BIOS of a PC. It's the first "program" that runs when you boot up (even requiring a specific keypress to enter). This allows you to access the system before the system boots, to get you backup/restore functions, and the ability to install new OS's. It also sounds like the built in version from Samsung is what is getting changed (like updating the BIOS of the PC) to allow more functionality (like backups, etc). The only thing you don't have access to is stuff like disk drives, but things like RAM and CPU can be adjusted once you have ROOT.
The more I learn about it, the more I'm eager to do it. I really don't like feeling confined to a predetermined set of available things to do, and I really don't like having somebody decide to install software I'll never use on my system that just takes up space. I especially hate that said programs can't even be uninstalled. Looks like this is what I'm gonna have to do!
Decided not to wait and rooted it tonight. I have the freedom now to play, though I'm not sure where to start. Currently I have the CF-Autoroot thing done, and it installed SuperSU. Then I did the TWRP recovery, and made a backup of all the partitions. I was kinda hoping I could backup remotely (like on the computer) rather than stored on the same device. I have a microSD card ordered and on the way, so my next task will be to back up to that. There is a tool I use on my Kindle Fire called ES File Explorer. I'll see if I can get that on this. Then I can find the backup and transfer it over the wifi.
I'll check out your other recommended apps as I have time. Thanks again!
Now I'm having a bunch of trouble. I was able to get the Chainfire root to go through, and verified it with a Root Checker. I then installed the TWRP recovery so I could make a backup. I even have a few backups. Then I went and installed an app called TWRP Manager, that was supposed to enable me the option of making backups LIVE (without having to boot into TWRP). It wasn't working, so I went to do a "Classic Backup" which reboots into TWRP and starts the backup then reboots normally. Well, TWRP never booted. I just had a black screen. Nothing seemed to work. I couldn't power on with the power button, and I couldn't manually boot into TWRP. The only option that did anything was ODIN (Download) Mode. I'm really freaking out at this point. I found a way to connect to XDA's IRC Channel and talked with some really nice guys and was told to try re-flashing the stock. I did that, and it worked. But now I'm stuck again. Basically starting from scratch with a stock system, I went through to install the Chainfire root again. It seemed to work ok, and SuperSU showed up. Ran the Root Verifier and it confirmed it was successful. I then went to flash TWRP. ODIN says it passed, but I still can't boot into it. Here's the kicker.. even if it appears that it's not working, if I do the keypresses on my tablet correctly and wait like 2-3 minutes then try again, TWRP will actually be up but the screen locked. WTF??
So did I something wrong? I'm really lost. Like I told the guys in the chatroom, I'm going on blind faith here, not really knowing what I'm doing. I figured once I have stock installed, I'm basically back to square one and can go through the whole process again. Doesn't seem to be working. I have to go to work now but hopefully somebody has something of a suggestion I can try by the time I get home.
xLima said:
4way_multiwindow: This will allow you to have 4 apps open at a time and 3 apps "minimized", this also allows floating windows (Moveable apps running in "windowed mode" essentially.) There is an aesthetic bug when minimized, I have not found a fixed version of this yet, maybe others can provide link. Just load up TWRP manager and choose install, and select the .zip file and it will reboot into recovery and install the file for you. Or you can boot your device into recovery and install it the same way. I am attaching the .zip file.
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Before I try this myself and bootloop, would I be safe flashing the 4way multiwindow on the new stock 6.0.1 ROM? (SM-T805)